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On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:27:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> >> dsi1 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
> >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
> >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
> >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
> >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
> >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
> >> ------------------------
> >>
> >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D

> >
> > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
> > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
> > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > Americans were eating 50 years ago.

>
> That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
> Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
> eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
> tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
> Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
> refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
> access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
>
> When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
> and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
> were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
>
> Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
> we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
> the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
> that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
>
> Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
> immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
> native cuisine.
>
> My guess is that you're not
> > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's. I
> > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
> > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
> > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> >
> > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
> >


I can remember some of what I ate 50 years ago.
Burgers and fries
Fish sticks
Pot roast
Turkey, mashed potatoes and gravy
Baked ham
Fried chicken
Scrambled eggs
Pan-fried whitefish
Canned green beans
Lots of macaroni with butter, salt, and pepper.

Yes, I eat a lot more vegetables now, and I've substituted
lower-calorie preps for all of that frying, and have much
more adventurous recipes, but it's still beef, chicken, pork,
and some fish.

We started out talking about food production technology, not
exotic recipes.

100 years ago, it was beef, chicken, pork, and some fish.


Cindy Hamilton

====================

I am still making now, many of the foods my Grandmother cooked when I was a
young child, so I guess some of those foods and recipes went back around 100
years)



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On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:24:21 -0000, "Ophelia" >
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>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>
>On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:27:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> >> dsi1 wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
>> >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
>> >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
>> >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
>> >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
>> >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
>> >> ------------------------
>> >>
>> >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
>> >
>> > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
>> > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
>> > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
>> > Americans were eating 50 years ago.

>>
>> That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
>> Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
>> eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
>> tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
>> Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
>> refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
>> access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
>>
>> When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
>> and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
>> were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
>>
>> Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
>> we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
>> the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
>> that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
>>
>> Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
>> immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
>> native cuisine.
>>
>> My guess is that you're not
>> > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's. I
>> > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
>> > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
>> > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
>> >
>> > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
>> >

>
>I can remember some of what I ate 50 years ago.
>Burgers and fries
>Fish sticks
>Pot roast
>Turkey, mashed potatoes and gravy
>Baked ham
>Fried chicken
>Scrambled eggs
>Pan-fried whitefish
>Canned green beans
>Lots of macaroni with butter, salt, and pepper.
>
>Yes, I eat a lot more vegetables now, and I've substituted
>lower-calorie preps for all of that frying, and have much
>more adventurous recipes, but it's still beef, chicken, pork,
>and some fish.
>
>We started out talking about food production technology, not
>exotic recipes.
>
>100 years ago, it was beef, chicken, pork, and some fish.
>
>
>Cindy Hamilton
>
>====================
>
>I am still making now, many of the foods my Grandmother cooked when I was a
>young child, so I guess some of those foods and recipes went back around 100
>years)


Here too, going to make some mince pies presently, with my
grandmothers mincemeat recipe I made earlier in the year. I also use
her chutney recipe, she wrote at the end, add plenty of garlic that
way the boys take less
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:24:21 -0000, "Ophelia" >
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>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>
>On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:27:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> >> dsi1 wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
>> >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
>> >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
>> >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
>> >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
>> >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
>> >> ------------------------
>> >>
>> >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
>> >
>> > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
>> > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
>> > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
>> > Americans were eating 50 years ago.

>>
>> That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
>> Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
>> eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
>> tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
>> Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
>> refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
>> access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
>>
>> When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
>> and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
>> were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
>>
>> Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
>> we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
>> the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
>> that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
>>
>> Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
>> immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
>> native cuisine.
>>
>> My guess is that you're not
>> > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's. I
>> > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
>> > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
>> > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
>> >
>> > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
>> >

>
>I can remember some of what I ate 50 years ago.
>Burgers and fries
>Fish sticks
>Pot roast
>Turkey, mashed potatoes and gravy
>Baked ham
>Fried chicken
>Scrambled eggs
>Pan-fried whitefish
>Canned green beans
>Lots of macaroni with butter, salt, and pepper.
>
>Yes, I eat a lot more vegetables now, and I've substituted
>lower-calorie preps for all of that frying, and have much
>more adventurous recipes, but it's still beef, chicken, pork,
>and some fish.
>
>We started out talking about food production technology, not
>exotic recipes.
>
>100 years ago, it was beef, chicken, pork, and some fish.
>
>
>Cindy Hamilton
>
>====================
>
>I am still making now, many of the foods my Grandmother cooked when I was a
>young child, so I guess some of those foods and recipes went back around
>100
>years)


Here too, going to make some mince pies presently, with my
grandmothers mincemeat recipe I made earlier in the year. I also use
her chutney recipe, she wrote at the end, add plenty of garlic that
way the boys take less

===

lol

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On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> >> dsi1 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
> >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
> >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
> >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
> >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
> >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
> >> ------------------------
> >>
> >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D

> >
> > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
> > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
> > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > Americans were eating 50 years ago.

>
> That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
> Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
> eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
> tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
> Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
> refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
> access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
>
> When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
> and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
> were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
>
> Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
> we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
> the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
> that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
>
> Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
> immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
> native cuisine.
>
>
>
>
>
> My guess is that you're not
> > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's. I
> > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
> > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
> > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> >
> > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
> >


As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology certainly did change everything. The most important being our ability to bind nitrogen into a form that can be used as a fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the population of this planet are living because of this discovery.

It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything has changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I cooked lemongrass chicken, made with boneless, skinless, chicken thighs. This form of chicken did not exist back in the 60's but it's trending these days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is served these days. We didn't have Thai or Vietnamese curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No Korean or Filipino foods either.

Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to change the way the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout from that will change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!


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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > >> dsi1 wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
> > >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
> > >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
> > >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
> > >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
> > >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
> > >> ------------------------
> > >>
> > >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > >
> > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
> > > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
> > > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > Americans were eating 50 years ago.

> >
> > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
> > Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
> > eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
> > tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
> > Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
> > refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
> > access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
> >
> > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
> > and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
> > were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
> >
> > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
> > we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
> > the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
> > that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
> >
> > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
> > immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
> > native cuisine.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My guess is that you're not
> > > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's. I
> > > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
> > > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
> > > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > >
> > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
> > >

>
> As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology certainly did
> change everything. The most important being our ability to bind nitrogen into
> a form that can be used as a fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the
> population of this planet are living because of this discovery.
>
> It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything has changed from 50
> years ago. Yesterday I cooked lemongrass chicken, made with boneless,
> skinless, chicken thighs. This form of chicken did not exist back in the 60's
> but it's trending these days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi
> but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is served these days. We
> didn't have Thai or Vietnamese curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No
> Korean or Filipino foods either.
>
> Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to change the way
> the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
> from that will change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will
> be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
> eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!


You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food with
nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be more
precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
lemongrass.

In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
of the world.

Cindy Hamilton


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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > >> dsi1 wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
> > > >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
> > > >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
> > > >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
> > > >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
> > > >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
> > > >> ------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > >
> > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
> > > > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
> > > > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > Americans were eating 50 years ago.
> > >
> > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
> > > Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
> > > eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
> > > tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
> > > Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
> > > refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
> > > access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
> > >
> > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
> > > and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
> > > were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
> > >
> > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
> > > we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
> > > the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
> > > that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
> > >
> > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
> > > immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
> > > native cuisine.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My guess is that you're not
> > > > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's. I
> > > > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
> > > > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
> > > > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
> > > >

> >
> > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology certainly did
> > change everything. The most important being our ability to bind nitrogen into
> > a form that can be used as a fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the
> > population of this planet are living because of this discovery.
> >
> > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything has changed from 50
> > years ago. Yesterday I cooked lemongrass chicken, made with boneless,
> > skinless, chicken thighs. This form of chicken did not exist back in the 60's
> > but it's trending these days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi
> > but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is served these days. We
> > didn't have Thai or Vietnamese curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No
> > Korean or Filipino foods either.
> >
> > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to change the way
> > the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
> > from that will change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will
> > be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
> > eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!

>
> You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food with
> nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be more
> precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
> lemongrass.
>
> In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> of the world.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!
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On 12/17/2016 10:16 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
>> since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
>> You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
>> of the world.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton

> Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!



Hamilton being a classic Vietnamese name of course...
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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:17:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > >> dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
> > > > >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
> > > > >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
> > > > >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
> > > > >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
> > > > >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
> > > > >> ------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > >
> > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
> > > > > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
> > > > > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > Americans were eating 50 years ago.
> > > >
> > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
> > > > Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
> > > > eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
> > > > tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
> > > > Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
> > > > refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
> > > > access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
> > > >
> > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
> > > > and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
> > > > were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
> > > > we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
> > > > the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
> > > > that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
> > > >
> > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
> > > > immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
> > > > native cuisine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My guess is that you're not
> > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's. I
> > > > > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
> > > > > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
> > > > > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
> > > > >
> > >
> > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology certainly did
> > > change everything. The most important being our ability to bind nitrogen into
> > > a form that can be used as a fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the
> > > population of this planet are living because of this discovery.
> > >
> > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything has changed from 50
> > > years ago. Yesterday I cooked lemongrass chicken, made with boneless,
> > > skinless, chicken thighs. This form of chicken did not exist back in the 60's
> > > but it's trending these days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi
> > > but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is served these days. We
> > > didn't have Thai or Vietnamese curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No
> > > Korean or Filipino foods either.
> > >
> > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to change the way
> > > the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
> > > from that will change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will
> > > be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
> > > eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!

> >
> > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food with
> > nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be more
> > precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
> > lemongrass.
> >
> > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> > since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> > You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> > of the world.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

>
> Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!


No. But you contention that lemongrass is cutting edge cuisine is
simply misinformed. You live in a culinary bubble.

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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:23:22 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On 12/17/2016 10:16 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> >> since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> >> You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> >> of the world.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton

> > Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!

>
>
> Hamilton being a classic Vietnamese name of course...


I wasn't named Hamilton in the 1970s, and I started using it when I
became interested in Indonesian food.

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On 2016-12-17 12:50 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:23:22 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:


>> Hamilton being a classic Vietnamese name of course...

>
> I wasn't named Hamilton in the 1970s, and I started using it when I
> became interested in Indonesian food.


It's a good thing to be interested in. I was first exposed to it in the
1970s when we had dinner at my wife's cousin's house. His father had
been in the foreign service and he had spent part of his childhood in
Indonesia. Years later we got together with a bunch of nieces and
nephews in Toronto and ate in an Indonesian place there. It was great.
My last experience was not so good. We went to a small town Chinese
restaurant that claimed to have Indonesian food and we had the rice
table. They should have stuck to Cantonese.




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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 7:50:23 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:17:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > > >> dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
> > > > > >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
> > > > > >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
> > > > > >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
> > > > > >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
> > > > > >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
> > > > > >> ------------------------
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
> > > > > > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
> > > > > > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > > Americans were eating 50 years ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
> > > > > Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
> > > > > eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
> > > > > tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
> > > > > Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
> > > > > refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
> > > > > access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
> > > > >
> > > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
> > > > > and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
> > > > > were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
> > > > > we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
> > > > > the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
> > > > > that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
> > > > > immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
> > > > > native cuisine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's.. I
> > > > > > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
> > > > > > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
> > > > > > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology certainly did
> > > > change everything. The most important being our ability to bind nitrogen into
> > > > a form that can be used as a fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the
> > > > population of this planet are living because of this discovery.
> > > >
> > > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything has changed from 50
> > > > years ago. Yesterday I cooked lemongrass chicken, made with boneless,
> > > > skinless, chicken thighs. This form of chicken did not exist back in the 60's
> > > > but it's trending these days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi
> > > > but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is served these days.. We
> > > > didn't have Thai or Vietnamese curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything.. No
> > > > Korean or Filipino foods either.
> > > >
> > > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to change the way
> > > > the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
> > > > from that will change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will
> > > > be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
> > > > eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!
> > >
> > > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food with
> > > nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be more
> > > precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
> > > lemongrass.
> > >
> > > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> > > since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> > > You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> > > of the world.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton

> >
> > Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!

>
> No. But you contention that lemongrass is cutting edge cuisine is
> simply misinformed. You live in a culinary bubble.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I was 50 years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed. What the heck is your definition of "living in a culinary bubble?" My guess is that you live in a bubble of negativity. I'd hate to live in one of those.

So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and lemongrass and eating raw fish is common in America. If you say so then it must be true - right?
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> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > >> dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be
> > > > the >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
> > > > >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
> > > > >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally
> > > > changed. >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess
> > > > is that the >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
> > > > >> ------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > >
> > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > Americans were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe
> > > > > that but you ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the
> > > > > same foods that Americans were eating 50 years ago.
> > > >
> > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that
> > > > most Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some
> > > > Americans still eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon,
> > > > eggs, ham, corn, potatoes, tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans,
> > > > peas etch. Descendants of those Americans probably still eat a
> > > > lot of those things, but thanks to refrigeration and improved
> > > > transportation, we now have almost year round access to fresh
> > > > fruits and vegetables. \
> > > >
> > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store
> > > > was tiny and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and
> > > > vegetables we had were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans
> > > > opened.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access
> > > > to things we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not
> > > > only have more of the stuff we are used to, but they have all
> > > > sorts of imported things that he used to only read about or ate
> > > > when we were travelling.
> > > >
> > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have
> > > > massive immigration from other countries and the immigrants
> > > > have brought their native cuisine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My guess is that you're not
> > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even
> > > > > 90's. I sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the
> > > > > last decade or so. Welcome back, the world has changed since
> > > > > you were out. For one thing, only old farts posting on Usenet
> > > > > use "LOL" these days.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
> > > > >
> > >
> > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology
> > > certainly did change everything. The most important being our
> > > ability to bind nitrogen into a form that can be used as a
> > > fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the population of
> > > this planet are living because of this discovery.
> > >
> > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything has
> > > changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I cooked lemongrass chicken,
> > > made with boneless, skinless, chicken thighs. This form of
> > > chicken did not exist back in the 60's but it's trending these
> > > days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi but we didn't
> > > have ramen or pho or sushi as it is served these days. We didn't
> > > have Thai or Vietnamese curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No
> > > Korean or Filipino foods either.
> > >
> > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to
> > > change the way the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded
> > > and as a result, the fallout from that will change how people on
> > > the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will be at the forefront of
> > > foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are eating raw
> > > fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!

> >
> > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food with
> > nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be more
> > precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
> > lemongrass.
> >
> > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> > since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> > You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> > of the world.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

>
> Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in Michigan in
> the 70's. Astounding!


Umm, DS1, You made it seem like Raw fish was a new thing in the 80's.
Hawaiians have been doing that before they got to Hawaii and were
called that. The form has changed is all.

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> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 7:50:23 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:17:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK
> > > > > > will be the >>> same as it is now. The foods will be
> > > > > > transformed by the >>> sociological, economic, and
> > > > > > environmental, conditions of the >>> time. A hundred years
> > > > > > from now it's going to be totally changed. >>> They may
> > > > > > still have fish and chips but my guess is that the >>>
> > > > > > "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots. >>
> > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > > > Americans were eating a hundred years ago. You might
> > > > > > > believe that but you ain't. My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > > eating the same foods that Americans were eating 50 years
> > > > > > > ago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture
> > > > > > that most Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things
> > > > > > that some Americans still eat, like beef, pork, chicken,
> > > > > > turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes, tomatoes,
> > > > > > carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
> > > > > > Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but
> > > > > > thanks to refrigeration and improved transportation, we now
> > > > > > have almost year round access to fresh fruits and
> > > > > > vegetables. \
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery
> > > > > > store was tiny and had only seasonal products. Most of the
> > > > > > fruit and vegetables we had were canned. Any dinner saw at
> > > > > > least two cans opened.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have
> > > > > > access to things we never used to be able to get. Produce
> > > > > > sections not only have more of the stuff we are used to,
> > > > > > but they have all sorts of imported things that he used to
> > > > > > only read about or ate when we were travelling.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have
> > > > > > have massive immigration from other countries and the
> > > > > > immigrants have brought their native cuisine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or
> > > > > > > even 90's. I sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma
> > > > > > > for the last decade or so. Welcome back, the world has
> > > > > > > changed since you were out. For one thing, only old farts
> > > > > > > posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...iving-car-waym
> > > > > > > o/
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology
> > > > > certainly did change everything. The most important being our
> > > > > ability to bind nitrogen into a form that can be used as a
> > > > > fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the population of
> > > > > this planet are living because of this discovery.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything has
> > > > > changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I cooked lemongrass
> > > > > chicken, made with boneless, skinless, chicken thighs. This
> > > > > form of chicken did not exist back in the 60's but it's
> > > > > trending these days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and
> > > > > sushi but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is
> > > > > served these days. We didn't have Thai or Vietnamese curry or
> > > > > Thai or Vietnamese anything. No Korean or Filipino foods
> > > > > either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to
> > > > > change the way the people on this rock saw food. They
> > > > > succeeded and as a result, the fallout from that will change
> > > > > how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will be at
> > > > > the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the
> > > > > kids are eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo
> > > > > boy!
> > > >
> > > > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food
> > > > with nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be
> > > > more precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
> > > > lemongrass.
> > > >
> > > > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> > > > since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> > > > You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> > > > of the world.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in
> > > Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!

> >
> > No. But you contention that lemongrass is cutting edge cuisine is
> > simply misinformed. You live in a culinary bubble.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

>
> I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I was 50
> years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed. What the heck is
> your definition of "living in a culinary bubble?" My guess is that
> you live in a bubble of negativity. I'd hate to live in one of those.
>
> So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and lemongrass
> and eating raw fish is common in America. If you say so then it must
> be true - right?


Lemongrass is grown here and exported. Raw fish is easy to find in
homes and restraunts.

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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:40:10 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > > >> dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be
> > > > > the >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
> > > > > >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
> > > > > >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally
> > > > > changed. >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess
> > > > > is that the >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
> > > > > >> ------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > > Americans were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe
> > > > > > that but you ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the
> > > > > > same foods that Americans were eating 50 years ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that
> > > > > most Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some
> > > > > Americans still eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon,
> > > > > eggs, ham, corn, potatoes, tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans,
> > > > > peas etch. Descendants of those Americans probably still eat a
> > > > > lot of those things, but thanks to refrigeration and improved
> > > > > transportation, we now have almost year round access to fresh
> > > > > fruits and vegetables. \
> > > > >
> > > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store
> > > > > was tiny and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and
> > > > > vegetables we had were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans
> > > > > opened.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access
> > > > > to things we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not
> > > > > only have more of the stuff we are used to, but they have all
> > > > > sorts of imported things that he used to only read about or ate
> > > > > when we were travelling.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have
> > > > > massive immigration from other countries and the immigrants
> > > > > have brought their native cuisine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even
> > > > > > 90's. I sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the
> > > > > > last decade or so. Welcome back, the world has changed since
> > > > > > you were out. For one thing, only old farts posting on Usenet
> > > > > > use "LOL" these days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology
> > > > certainly did change everything. The most important being our
> > > > ability to bind nitrogen into a form that can be used as a
> > > > fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the population of
> > > > this planet are living because of this discovery.
> > > >
> > > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything has
> > > > changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I cooked lemongrass chicken,
> > > > made with boneless, skinless, chicken thighs. This form of
> > > > chicken did not exist back in the 60's but it's trending these
> > > > days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi but we didn't
> > > > have ramen or pho or sushi as it is served these days. We didn't
> > > > have Thai or Vietnamese curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No
> > > > Korean or Filipino foods either.
> > > >
> > > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to
> > > > change the way the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded
> > > > and as a result, the fallout from that will change how people on
> > > > the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will be at the forefront of
> > > > foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are eating raw
> > > > fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!
> > >
> > > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food with
> > > nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be more
> > > precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
> > > lemongrass.
> > >
> > > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> > > since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> > > You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> > > of the world.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton

> >
> > Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in Michigan in
> > the 70's. Astounding!

>
> Umm, DS1, You made it seem like Raw fish was a new thing in the 80's.
> Hawaiians have been doing that before they got to Hawaii and were
> called that. The form has changed is all.
>
> --


We've always had sashimi and poke. Mostly the poke was shoyu based and we'd eat a little at parties. These days the hot poke over here is spicy Sriracha/mayo. This only appeared in the last 10 years. The chefs on the mainland have been creative with their poke bowls and that form has bounced back over the Pacific. The mainland style poke bowl is great eats! In the last 10 years, poke has transformed from a side dish to the main attraction and is eaten by young folks worldwide. As far as poke goes, this changes everything.

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> So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and lemongrass and eating raw fish is common in America.
> If you say so then it must be true - right?



Let's hear it for Trung Hamilton...


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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 7:50:23 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:17:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK
> > > > > > > will be the >>> same as it is now. The foods will be
> > > > > > > transformed by the >>> sociological, economic, and
> > > > > > > environmental, conditions of the >>> time. A hundred years
> > > > > > > from now it's going to be totally changed. >>> They may
> > > > > > > still have fish and chips but my guess is that the >>>
> > > > > > > "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots. >>
> > > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > > > > Americans were eating a hundred years ago. You might
> > > > > > > > believe that but you ain't. My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > > > eating the same foods that Americans were eating 50 years
> > > > > > > > ago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture
> > > > > > > that most Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things
> > > > > > > that some Americans still eat, like beef, pork, chicken,
> > > > > > > turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes, tomatoes,
> > > > > > > carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
> > > > > > > Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but
> > > > > > > thanks to refrigeration and improved transportation, we now
> > > > > > > have almost year round access to fresh fruits and
> > > > > > > vegetables. \
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery
> > > > > > > store was tiny and had only seasonal products. Most of the
> > > > > > > fruit and vegetables we had were canned. Any dinner saw at
> > > > > > > least two cans opened.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have
> > > > > > > access to things we never used to be able to get. Produce
> > > > > > > sections not only have more of the stuff we are used to,
> > > > > > > but they have all sorts of imported things that he used to
> > > > > > > only read about or ate when we were travelling.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have
> > > > > > > have massive immigration from other countries and the
> > > > > > > immigrants have brought their native cuisine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or
> > > > > > > > even 90's. I sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma
> > > > > > > > for the last decade or so. Welcome back, the world has
> > > > > > > > changed since you were out. For one thing, only old farts
> > > > > > > > posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...iving-car-waym
> > > > > > > > o/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology
> > > > > > certainly did change everything. The most important being our
> > > > > > ability to bind nitrogen into a form that can be used as a
> > > > > > fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the population of
> > > > > > this planet are living because of this discovery.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything has
> > > > > > changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I cooked lemongrass
> > > > > > chicken, made with boneless, skinless, chicken thighs. This
> > > > > > form of chicken did not exist back in the 60's but it's
> > > > > > trending these days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and
> > > > > > sushi but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is
> > > > > > served these days. We didn't have Thai or Vietnamese curry or
> > > > > > Thai or Vietnamese anything. No Korean or Filipino foods
> > > > > > either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to
> > > > > > change the way the people on this rock saw food. They
> > > > > > succeeded and as a result, the fallout from that will change
> > > > > > how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will be at
> > > > > > the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the
> > > > > > kids are eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo
> > > > > > boy!
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food
> > > > > with nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be
> > > > > more precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
> > > > > lemongrass.
> > > > >
> > > > > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> > > > > since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> > > > > You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> > > > > of the world.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in
> > > > Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!
> > >
> > > No. But you contention that lemongrass is cutting edge cuisine is
> > > simply misinformed. You live in a culinary bubble.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton

> >
> > I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I was 50
> > years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed. What the heck is
> > your definition of "living in a culinary bubble?" My guess is that
> > you live in a bubble of negativity. I'd hate to live in one of those.
> >
> > So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and lemongrass
> > and eating raw fish is common in America. If you say so then it must
> > be true - right?

>
> Lemongrass is grown here and exported. Raw fish is easy to find in
> homes and restraunts.
>
> --


How long has lemongrass been grown and exported where you live? How long has raw fish been easy to find in homes and restaurants on the mainland? If you live in Asia, the answer would be "forever." Not so on the mainland. Heck, I can't even find lemongrass in our stores. The reality is that a lot of the stuff on this rock is not found on the mainland.
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> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 7:50:23 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:17:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave
> > > > > > > Smith wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10,
> > > > > > > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK
> > > > > > > > will be the >>> same as it is now. The foods will be
> > > > > > > > transformed by the >>> sociological, economic, and
> > > > > > > > environmental, conditions of the >>> time. A hundred
> > > > > > > > years from now it's going to be totally changed. >>>
> > > > > > > > They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that
> > > > > > > > the >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots. >>
> > > > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > > > > > Americans were eating a hundred years ago. You might
> > > > > > > > > believe that but you ain't. My guess is that you're
> > > > > > > > > not eating the same foods that Americans were eating
> > > > > > > > > 50 years ago.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture
> > > > > > > > that most Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things
> > > > > > > > that some Americans still eat, like beef, pork, chicken,
> > > > > > > > turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes, tomatoes,
> > > > > > > > carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
> > > > > > > > Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but
> > > > > > > > thanks to refrigeration and improved transportation, we
> > > > > > > > now have almost year round access to fresh fruits and
> > > > > > > > vegetables. \
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the
> > > > > > > > grocery store was tiny and had only seasonal products.
> > > > > > > > Most of the fruit and vegetables we had were canned.
> > > > > > > > Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have
> > > > > > > > access to things we never used to be able to get.
> > > > > > > > Produce sections not only have more of the stuff we are
> > > > > > > > used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
> > > > > > > > that he used to only read about or ate when we were
> > > > > > > > travelling.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have
> > > > > > > > have massive immigration from other countries and the
> > > > > > > > immigrants have brought their native cuisine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or
> > > > > > > > > even 90's. I sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma
> > > > > > > > > for the last decade or so. Welcome back, the world
> > > > > > > > > has changed since you were out. For one thing, only
> > > > > > > > > old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google-self-driving-car-
> > > > > > > > > waym o/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology
> > > > > > > certainly did change everything. The most important being
> > > > > > > our ability to bind nitrogen into a form that can be used
> > > > > > > as a fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the
> > > > > > > population of this planet are living because of this
> > > > > > > discovery.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything
> > > > > > > has changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I cooked
> > > > > > > lemongrass chicken, made with boneless, skinless, chicken
> > > > > > > thighs. This form of chicken did not exist back in the
> > > > > > > 60's but it's trending these days. Back in the old days,
> > > > > > > we had saimin and sushi but we didn't have ramen or pho
> > > > > > > or sushi as it is served these days. We didn't have Thai
> > > > > > > or Vietnamese curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No
> > > > > > > Korean or Filipino foods either.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out
> > > > > > > to change the way the people on this rock saw food. They
> > > > > > > succeeded and as a result, the fallout from that will
> > > > > > > change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii
> > > > > > > will be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America.
> > > > > > > These days, the kids are eating raw fish as a meal and
> > > > > > > they're loving it. Hoo boy!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food
> > > > > > with nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't
> > > > > > you be more precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by
> > > > > > mentioning lemongrass.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw
> > > > > > fish since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old
> > > > > > news. You write as if you're 20 years old and have no
> > > > > > experience of the world.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in
> > > > > Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!
> > > >
> > > > No. But you contention that lemongrass is cutting edge cuisine
> > > > is simply misinformed. You live in a culinary bubble.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I was
> > > 50 years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed. What the
> > > heck is your definition of "living in a culinary bubble?" My
> > > guess is that you live in a bubble of negativity. I'd hate to
> > > live in one of those.
> > >
> > > So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and
> > > lemongrass and eating raw fish is common in America. If you say
> > > so then it must be true - right?

> >
> > Lemongrass is grown here and exported. Raw fish is easy to find in
> > homes and restraunts.
> >
> > --

>
> How long has lemongrass been grown and exported where you live? How
> long has raw fish been easy to find in homes and restaurants on the
> mainland? If you live in Asia, the answer would be "forever." Not so
> on the mainland. Heck, I can't even find lemongrass in our stores.
> The reality is that a lot of the stuff on this rock is not found on
> the mainland.


The American Indians ate certain types of raw fish before whiteman came
and definately the northern ones (Eskimo and Northern Tribes). It was
also common in other costal areas though some types are not done due to
nematodes.

Get over lemongrass. It's not that great. They sell it from here and
have been doing so since about 1970. If you can't get it where you are
in fresh form, you aren't missing anything really.

Keep in mind I lived on your 'rock' for 3 years.

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On 2016-12-17 2:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
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>> How long has lemongrass been grown and exported where you live? How
>> long has raw fish been easy to find in homes and restaurants on the
>> mainland? If you live in Asia, the answer would be "forever." Not so
>> on the mainland. Heck, I can't even find lemongrass in our stores.
>> The reality is that a lot of the stuff on this rock is not found on
>> the mainland.

>
> The American Indians ate certain types of raw fish before whiteman came
> and definately the northern ones (Eskimo and Northern Tribes). It was
> also common in other costal areas though some types are not done due to
> nematodes.


A friend of mine is part Inuit. His parents moved back up north and used
to send back all fish and game. He introduced me to Arctic Char. It's
pretty good raw.
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On 12/17/2016 9:42 AM, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 7:50:23 AM UTC-10, Cindy
>>>> Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:17:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy
>>>>>> Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10, Dave
>>>>>>>> Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10,
>>>>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK
>>>>>>>>> will be the >>> same as it is now. The foods will be
>>>>>>>>> transformed by the >>> sociological, economic, and
>>>>>>>>> environmental, conditions of the >>> time. A hundred
>>>>>>>>> years from now it's going to be totally changed. >>>
>>>>>>>>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that
>>>>>>>>> the >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots. >>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
>>>>>>>>>> Americans were eating a hundred years ago. You might
>>>>>>>>>> believe that but you ain't. My guess is that you're
>>>>>>>>>> not eating the same foods that Americans were eating
>>>>>>>>>> 50 years ago.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture
>>>>>>>>> that most Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things
>>>>>>>>> that some Americans still eat, like beef, pork, chicken,
>>>>>>>>> turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes, tomatoes,
>>>>>>>>> carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
>>>>>>>>> Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but
>>>>>>>>> thanks to refrigeration and improved transportation, we
>>>>>>>>> now have almost year round access to fresh fruits and
>>>>>>>>> vegetables. \
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the
>>>>>>>>> grocery store was tiny and had only seasonal products.
>>>>>>>>> Most of the fruit and vegetables we had were canned.
>>>>>>>>> Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have
>>>>>>>>> access to things we never used to be able to get.
>>>>>>>>> Produce sections not only have more of the stuff we are
>>>>>>>>> used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
>>>>>>>>> that he used to only read about or ate when we were
>>>>>>>>> travelling.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have
>>>>>>>>> have massive immigration from other countries and the
>>>>>>>>> immigrants have brought their native cuisine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My guess is that you're not
>>>>>>>>>> eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or
>>>>>>>>>> even 90's. I sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma
>>>>>>>>>> for the last decade or so. Welcome back, the world
>>>>>>>>>> has changed since you were out. For one thing, only
>>>>>>>>>> old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google-self-driving-car-
>>>>>>>>>> waym o/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as what people ate a hundred years ago, technology
>>>>>>>> certainly did change everything. The most important being
>>>>>>>> our ability to bind nitrogen into a form that can be used
>>>>>>>> as a fertilizer. It has been estimated that half the
>>>>>>>> population of this planet are living because of this
>>>>>>>> discovery.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock. Everything
>>>>>>>> has changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I cooked
>>>>>>>> lemongrass chicken, made with boneless, skinless, chicken
>>>>>>>> thighs. This form of chicken did not exist back in the
>>>>>>>> 60's but it's trending these days. Back in the old days,
>>>>>>>> we had saimin and sushi but we didn't have ramen or pho
>>>>>>>> or sushi as it is served these days. We didn't have Thai
>>>>>>>> or Vietnamese curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No
>>>>>>>> Korean or Filipino foods either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out
>>>>>>>> to change the way the people on this rock saw food. They
>>>>>>>> succeeded and as a result, the fallout from that will
>>>>>>>> change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii
>>>>>>>> will be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America.
>>>>>>>> These days, the kids are eating raw fish as a meal and
>>>>>>>> they're loving it. Hoo boy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food
>>>>>>> with nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't
>>>>>>> you be more precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by
>>>>>>> mentioning lemongrass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw
>>>>>>> fish since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old
>>>>>>> news. You write as if you're 20 years old and have no
>>>>>>> experience of the world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in
>>>>>> Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!
>>>>>
>>>>> No. But you contention that lemongrass is cutting edge cuisine
>>>>> is simply misinformed. You live in a culinary bubble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I was
>>>> 50 years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed. What the
>>>> heck is your definition of "living in a culinary bubble?" My
>>>> guess is that you live in a bubble of negativity. I'd hate to
>>>> live in one of those.
>>>>
>>>> So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and
>>>> lemongrass and eating raw fish is common in America. If you say
>>>> so then it must be true - right?
>>>
>>> Lemongrass is grown here and exported. Raw fish is easy to find in
>>> homes and restraunts.
>>>
>>> --

>>
>> How long has lemongrass been grown and exported where you live? How
>> long has raw fish been easy to find in homes and restaurants on the
>> mainland? If you live in Asia, the answer would be "forever." Not so
>> on the mainland. Heck, I can't even find lemongrass in our stores.
>> The reality is that a lot of the stuff on this rock is not found on
>> the mainland.

>
> The American Indians ate certain types of raw fish before whiteman came
> and definately the northern ones (Eskimo and Northern Tribes). It was
> also common in other costal areas though some types are not done due to
> nematodes.
>
> Get over lemongrass. It's not that great. They sell it from here and
> have been doing so since about 1970. If you can't get it where you are
> in fresh form, you aren't missing anything really.
>
> Keep in mind I lived on your 'rock' for 3 years.
>


You are correct, people have been eating raw fish for a long time.
What's your point?

You're the one that's so proud that her home sells and exports
lemongrass. I have tried the fresh stuff and would never use it again. I
have recommended that people not use the fresh stuff to make lemongrass
chicken.

This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may have
lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If you don't
know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about it. I have my
ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect that. Put forth
your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so disrespectful.
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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 1:12:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

> I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I was 50 years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed. What the heck is your definition of "living in a culinary bubble?" My guess is that you live in a bubble of negativity. I'd hate to live in one of those.
>
> So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and lemongrass and eating raw fish is common in America. If you say so then it must be true - right?


I eat some of the same things that I ate 50 years go. I eat some things
that weren't much known in middle America. Raw fish is quite common
here. I can't think of a single grocery store that doesn't sell sushi.
YMMV may vary in less cosmopolitan locations than a college town.

Here's a peace offering. A recipe.

Pork Sate

3 tablespoons finely chopped onion
2 garlic cloves
2 teaspoons powdered galangal
2 tablespoon peanut butter
1 tablespoon crushed lemongrass
1 teaspoon turmeric
2 teaspoons coriander
1.5 teaspoons cumin
1/4 teaspoon red pepper flakes
1.5 teaspoons salt (optional)
1 tablespoon brown sugar
1.25 cups light coconut milk
0.5 cups kecap manis (sweet soy sauce)
1 to 1.5 pounds boneless pork

Combine all ingredients. Marinate overnight. Skewer pork and broil.


I don't like heavy coconut milk, so I soak dried, unsweetened coconut
in boiling water, squeeze the liquid out of the coconut, and use that.

I transcribed this recipe from a notebook; I typed the original
on my grandmother's 1950s Smith-Corona portable typewriter.

Cindy Hamilton


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On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 10:53:04 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

>This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may have
>lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If you don't
>know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about it. I have my
>ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect that. Put forth
>your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so disrespectful.


LOL. You're such a pussy.
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On 12/17/2016 10:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 1:12:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I was 50 years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed. What the heck is your definition of "living in a culinary bubble?" My guess is that you live in a bubble of negativity. I'd hate to live in one of those.
>>
>> So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and lemongrass and eating raw fish is common in America. If you say so then it must be true - right?

>
> I eat some of the same things that I ate 50 years go. I eat some things
> that weren't much known in middle America. Raw fish is quite common
> here. I can't think of a single grocery store that doesn't sell sushi.
> YMMV may vary in less cosmopolitan locations than a college town.
>
> Here's a peace offering. A recipe.
>
> Pork Sate
>
> 3 tablespoons finely chopped onion
> 2 garlic cloves
> 2 teaspoons powdered galangal
> 2 tablespoon peanut butter
> 1 tablespoon crushed lemongrass
> 1 teaspoon turmeric
> 2 teaspoons coriander
> 1.5 teaspoons cumin
> 1/4 teaspoon red pepper flakes
> 1.5 teaspoons salt (optional)
> 1 tablespoon brown sugar
> 1.25 cups light coconut milk
> 0.5 cups kecap manis (sweet soy sauce)
> 1 to 1.5 pounds boneless pork
>
> Combine all ingredients. Marinate overnight. Skewer pork and broil.
>
>
> I don't like heavy coconut milk, so I soak dried, unsweetened coconut
> in boiling water, squeeze the liquid out of the coconut, and use that.
>
> I transcribed this recipe from a notebook; I typed the original
> on my grandmother's 1950s Smith-Corona portable typewriter.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


Those old portable typewriters are one of the greatest invention by man
and the mind boggles at those amazing sentences that have passed through
those skinny rollers.

The only thing that I'm eating the same as 50 years ago is rice. Maybe
Spam. Even that's changed. These days, people tend to consume that stuff
in Spam musubi. I appreciate the recipe. My problem is that I learned to
cook in Hawaii. The truth is that the main hallmark of Hawaii cooking is
simplicity. A lot of ingredients, especially herbs, confuses us. Now you
know.
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Jeßus wrote:
>dsi1 wrote:
>
>>This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome.

>
>LOL. You're such a pussy.


And yoose two funny boys love squid testicles... only pussy yoose ever
known was at birth... coupla flamin' faggots!


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On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 16:44:43 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>Jeßus wrote:
>>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome.

>>
>>LOL. You're such a pussy.

>
>And yoose two funny boys love squid testicles... only pussy yoose ever
>known was at birth...


Crystal Palace talk. A mentally incontinent old git.

>coupla flamin' faggots!


So says the guy who loved working with seamen so much.
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> On 2016-12-17 2:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> > > How long has lemongrass been grown and exported where you live?
> > > How long has raw fish been easy to find in homes and restaurants
> > > on the mainland? If you live in Asia, the answer would be
> > > "forever." Not so on the mainland. Heck, I can't even find
> > > lemongrass in our stores. The reality is that a lot of the stuff
> > > on this rock is not found on the mainland.

> >
> > The American Indians ate certain types of raw fish before whiteman
> > came and definately the northern ones (Eskimo and Northern Tribes).
> > It was also common in other costal areas though some types are not
> > done due to nematodes.

>
> A friend of mine is part Inuit. His parents moved back up north and
> used to send back all fish and game. He introduced me to Arctic
> Char. It's pretty good raw.
> >


I've heard of it but not tried it. Doesnt come this far south and
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> On 12/17/2016 9:42 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 7:50:23 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:17:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > > > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5,
> > > > > > > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10,
> > > > > > > > > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10,
> > > > > > > > > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There's no reason to think that the foods in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the UK
> >>>>>>>>>will be the >>> same as it is now. The foods will be
> >>>>>>>>>transformed by the >>> sociological, economic, and
> >>>>>>>>>environmental, conditions of the >>> time. A hundred
> > > > > > > > > > years from now it's going to be totally changed.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess
> > > > > > > > > > is that
> >>>>>>>>>the >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots. >>
> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods
> > > > > > > > > > > that Americans were eating a hundred years ago.
> > > > > > > > > > > You might believe that but you ain't. My guess is
> > > > > > > > > > > that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > > > > > > > Americans were eating 50 years ago.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would
> > > > > > > > > > venture that most Americans a hundred years ate a
> > > > > > > > > > diet of things that some Americans still eat, like
> > > > > > > > > > beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham,
> > > > > > > > > > corn, potatoes, tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans,
> > > > > > > > > > peas etch. Descendants of those Americans probably
> > > > > > > > > > still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
> > > > > > > > > > refrigeration and improved transportation, we now
> > > > > > > > > > have almost year round access to fresh fruits and
> > > > > > > > > > vegetables. \
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the
> > > > > > > > > > grocery store was tiny and had only seasonal
> > > > > > > > > > products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
> > > > > > > > > > were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans
> > > > > > > > > > opened.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also
> > > > > > > > > > have access to things we never used to be able to
> > > > > > > > > > get. Produce sections not only have more of the
> > > > > > > > > > stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of
> > > > > > > > > > imported things that he used to only read about or
> > > > > > > > > > ate when we were travelling.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada
> > > > > > > > > > have have massive immigration from other countries
> > > > > > > > > > and the immigrants have brought their native
> > > > > > > > > > cuisine.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>> My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > > > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the
> > > > > > > > > > > 80's or even 90's. I sure ain't. Perhaps you've
> > > > > > > > > > > been in a coma for the last decade or so.
> > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back, the world has changed since you
> > > > > > > > > > > were out. For one thing, only old farts posting
> > > > > > > > > > > on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google-self-driving-
> > > > > > > > > > > car- waym o/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago,
> > > > > > > > > technology certainly did change everything. The most
> > > > > > > > > important being our ability to bind nitrogen into a
> > > > > > > > > form that can be used as a fertilizer. It has been
> > > > > > > > > estimated that half the population of this planet are
> > > > > > > > > living because of this discovery.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock.
> > > > > > > > > Everything has changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I
> > > > > > > > > cooked lemongrass chicken, made with boneless,
> > > > > > > > > skinless, chicken thighs. This form of chicken did
> > > > > > > > > not exist back in the 60's but it's trending these
> > > > > > > > > days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi
> > > > > > > > > but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is
> > > > > > > > > served these days. We didn't have Thai or Vietnamese
> > > > > > > > > curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No Korean or
> > > > > > > > > Filipino foods either.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set
> > > > > > > > > out to change the way the people on this rock saw
> > > > > > > > > food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
> > > > > > > > > from that will change how people on the mainland will
> > > > > > > > > eat i.e., Hawaii will be at the forefront of foodie
> > > > > > > > > trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
> > > > > > > > > eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo
> > > > > > > > > boy!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making
> > > > > > > > food with nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass".
> > > > > > > > Can't you be more precise? You don't make a case for
> > > > > > > > nanobots by mentioning lemongrass.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw
> > > > > > > > fish since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's
> > > > > > > > old news. You write as if you're 20 years old and have
> > > > > > > > no experience of the world.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in
> > > > > > > Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No. But you contention that lemongrass is cutting edge
> > > > > > cuisine is simply misinformed. You live in a culinary
> > > > > > bubble.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I
> > > > > was 50 years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed.
> > > > > What the heck is your definition of "living in a culinary
> > > > > bubble?" My guess is that you live in a bubble of negativity.
> > > > > I'd hate to live in one of those.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and
> > > > > lemongrass and eating raw fish is common in America. If you
> > > > > say so then it must be true - right?
> > > >
> > > > Lemongrass is grown here and exported. Raw fish is easy to
> > > > find in homes and restraunts.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > >
> > > How long has lemongrass been grown and exported where you live?
> > > How long has raw fish been easy to find in homes and restaurants
> > > on the mainland? If you live in Asia, the answer would be
> > > "forever." Not so on the mainland. Heck, I can't even find
> > > lemongrass in our stores. The reality is that a lot of the stuff
> > > on this rock is not found on the mainland.

> >
> > The American Indians ate certain types of raw fish before whiteman
> > came and definately the northern ones (Eskimo and Northern Tribes).
> > It was also common in other costal areas though some types are not
> > done due to nematodes.
> >
> > Get over lemongrass. It's not that great. They sell it from here
> > and have been doing so since about 1970. If you can't get it where
> > you are in fresh form, you aren't missing anything really.
> >
> > Keep in mind I lived on your 'rock' for 3 years.
> >

>
> You are correct, people have been eating raw fish for a long time.
> What's your point?
>
> You're the one that's so proud that her home sells and exports
> lemongrass. I have tried the fresh stuff and would never use it
> again. I have recommended that people not use the fresh stuff to make
> lemongrass chicken.
>
> This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may
> have lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If
> you don't know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about it.
> I have my ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect that.
> Put forth your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so
> disrespectful.


Are you having a bad day? I made a one liner on the lemon grass then
you asked and i added we grow it here for export and it's not that
great stuff.

Dunno where you are in your head right now but i'm not one of the folks
who have ever lectured you about anything. I've not made any posts
about Poke other than I like it.

You are mixing me with someone else. Just drop it since you are not
apt to apologize to me for doing that.

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In article >,
Cindy Hamilton says...
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:


> > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to change
> > the way
> > the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
> > from that will change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will
> > be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
> > eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!

>
> You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food with
> nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be more
> precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
> lemongrass.
>
> In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> of the world.


You don't seem to want to understand that he lives in Hawaii and that
Hawaii is VERY special. Not just special, VERY special. Repeat after me:
VERY special. Let's all pull out our lighters now.
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In article >, dsi1 says...
>
> You're the one that's so proud that her home sells and exports
> lemongrass. I have tried the fresh stuff and would never use it again. I
> have recommended that people not use the fresh stuff to make lemongrass
> chicken.


Silly man.

> This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may have
> lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If you don't
> know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about it. I have my
> ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect that. Put forth
> your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so disrespectful.


You're positively finger pointing.

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In article >, cshenk
says...
>
> You are mixing me with someone else. Just drop it since you are not
> apt to apologize to me for doing that.


Nobody knows this, but he lives in Hawaii. Hawaiians don't apologise.
That would make them lose face and they only have one. Do you want him
to go through life without a face?
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>
> On 2016-12-17 12:50 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:23:22 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:

>
> >> Hamilton being a classic Vietnamese name of course...

> >
> > I wasn't named Hamilton in the 1970s, and I started using it when I
> > became interested in Indonesian food.

>
> It's a good thing to be interested in.


Definitely!


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On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 12:07:18 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, dsi1 says...
>>
>> You're the one that's so proud that her home sells and exports
>> lemongrass. I have tried the fresh stuff and would never use it again. I
>> have recommended that people not use the fresh stuff to make lemongrass
>> chicken.

>
>Silly man.
>>
>> This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may have
>> lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If you don't
>> know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about it. I have my
>> ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect that. Put forth
>> your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so disrespectful.

>
>You're positively finger pointing.


He's obsessed with not losing face and getting respect, but doesnt
respect the western culture he lives in.
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In article >, Jeßus says...
>
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 12:07:18 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, dsi1 says...
> >>
> >> You're the one that's so proud that her home sells and exports
> >> lemongrass. I have tried the fresh stuff and would never use it again. I
> >> have recommended that people not use the fresh stuff to make lemongrass
> >> chicken.

> >
> >Silly man.
> >>
> >> This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may have
> >> lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If you don't
> >> know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about it. I have my
> >> ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect that. Put forth
> >> your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so disrespectful.

> >
> >You're positively finger pointing.

>
> He's obsessed with not losing face and getting respect, but doesnt
> respect the western culture he lives in.


Yes, and he forgets rule number one if you want respect: don't talk
nonsense.
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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:48:26 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On 12/17/2016 9:42 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 7:50:23 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 12:17:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 6:55:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > > > > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5,
> > > > > > > > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-10,
> > > > > > > > > > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's no reason to think that the foods in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the UK
> > >>>>>>>>>will be the >>> same as it is now. The foods will be
> > >>>>>>>>>transformed by the >>> sociological, economic, and
> > >>>>>>>>>environmental, conditions of the >>> time. A hundred
> > > > > > > > > > > years from now it's going to be totally changed.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess
> > > > > > > > > > > is that
> > >>>>>>>>>the >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots. >>
> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods
> > > > > > > > > > > > that Americans were eating a hundred years ago.
> > > > > > > > > > > > You might believe that but you ain't. My guess is
> > > > > > > > > > > > that you're not eating the same foods that
> > > > > > > > > > > > Americans were eating 50 years ago.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That is probably sort of possibly true. I would
> > > > > > > > > > > venture that most Americans a hundred years ate a
> > > > > > > > > > > diet of things that some Americans still eat, like
> > > > > > > > > > > beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham,
> > > > > > > > > > > corn, potatoes, tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans,
> > > > > > > > > > > peas etch. Descendants of those Americans probably
> > > > > > > > > > > still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
> > > > > > > > > > > refrigeration and improved transportation, we now
> > > > > > > > > > > have almost year round access to fresh fruits and
> > > > > > > > > > > vegetables. \
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the
> > > > > > > > > > > grocery store was tiny and had only seasonal
> > > > > > > > > > > products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
> > > > > > > > > > > were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans
> > > > > > > > > > > opened.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to modern transportation we now also
> > > > > > > > > > > have access to things we never used to be able to
> > > > > > > > > > > get. Produce sections not only have more of the
> > > > > > > > > > > stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of
> > > > > > > > > > > imported things that he used to only read about or
> > > > > > > > > > > ate when we were travelling.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada
> > > > > > > > > > > have have massive immigration from other countries
> > > > > > > > > > > and the immigrants have brought their native
> > > > > > > > > > > cuisine.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>>> My guess is that you're not
> > > > > > > > > > > > eating the same foods that you did during the
> > > > > > > > > > > > 80's or even 90's. I sure ain't. Perhaps you've
> > > > > > > > > > > > been in a coma for the last decade or so.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back, the world has changed since you
> > > > > > > > > > > > were out. For one thing, only old farts posting
> > > > > > > > > > > > on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google-self-driving-
> > > > > > > > > > > > car- waym o/
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > As far as what people ate a hundred years ago,
> > > > > > > > > > technology certainly did change everything. The most
> > > > > > > > > > important being our ability to bind nitrogen into a
> > > > > > > > > > form that can be used as a fertilizer. It has been
> > > > > > > > > > estimated that half the population of this planet are
> > > > > > > > > > living because of this discovery.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It's like the wild, wild, West on this rock.
> > > > > > > > > > Everything has changed from 50 years ago. Yesterday I
> > > > > > > > > > cooked lemongrass chicken, made with boneless,
> > > > > > > > > > skinless, chicken thighs. This form of chicken did
> > > > > > > > > > not exist back in the 60's but it's trending these
> > > > > > > > > > days. Back in the old days, we had saimin and sushi
> > > > > > > > > > but we didn't have ramen or pho or sushi as it is
> > > > > > > > > > served these days. We didn't have Thai or Vietnamese
> > > > > > > > > > curry or Thai or Vietnamese anything. No Korean or
> > > > > > > > > > Filipino foods either.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set
> > > > > > > > > > out to change the way the people on this rock saw
> > > > > > > > > > food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
> > > > > > > > > > from that will change how people on the mainland will
> > > > > > > > > > eat i.e., Hawaii will be at the forefront of foodie
> > > > > > > > > > trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
> > > > > > > > > > eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo
> > > > > > > > > > boy!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making
> > > > > > > > > food with nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass".
> > > > > > > > > Can't you be more precise? You don't make a case for
> > > > > > > > > nanobots by mentioning lemongrass.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw
> > > > > > > > > fish since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's
> > > > > > > > > old news. You write as if you're 20 years old and have
> > > > > > > > > no experience of the world.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Oh, I see, you invented lemongrass and eating raw fish in
> > > > > > > > Michigan in the 70's. Astounding!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No. But you contention that lemongrass is cutting edge
> > > > > > > cuisine is simply misinformed. You live in a culinary
> > > > > > > bubble.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not the one saying that I'm eating the same foods that I
> > > > > > was 50 years ago. I'm saying that everything has changed.
> > > > > > What the heck is your definition of "living in a culinary
> > > > > > bubble?" My guess is that you live in a bubble of negativity.
> > > > > > I'd hate to live in one of those.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you eat the same things that you did 50 years ago and
> > > > > > lemongrass and eating raw fish is common in America. If you
> > > > > > say so then it must be true - right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Lemongrass is grown here and exported. Raw fish is easy to
> > > > > find in homes and restraunts.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > >
> > > > How long has lemongrass been grown and exported where you live?
> > > > How long has raw fish been easy to find in homes and restaurants
> > > > on the mainland? If you live in Asia, the answer would be
> > > > "forever." Not so on the mainland. Heck, I can't even find
> > > > lemongrass in our stores. The reality is that a lot of the stuff
> > > > on this rock is not found on the mainland.
> > >
> > > The American Indians ate certain types of raw fish before whiteman
> > > came and definately the northern ones (Eskimo and Northern Tribes).
> > > It was also common in other costal areas though some types are not
> > > done due to nematodes.
> > >
> > > Get over lemongrass. It's not that great. They sell it from here
> > > and have been doing so since about 1970. If you can't get it where
> > > you are in fresh form, you aren't missing anything really.
> > >
> > > Keep in mind I lived on your 'rock' for 3 years.
> > >

> >
> > You are correct, people have been eating raw fish for a long time.
> > What's your point?
> >
> > You're the one that's so proud that her home sells and exports
> > lemongrass. I have tried the fresh stuff and would never use it
> > again. I have recommended that people not use the fresh stuff to make
> > lemongrass chicken.
> >
> > This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may
> > have lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If
> > you don't know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about it.
> > I have my ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect that.
> > Put forth your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so
> > disrespectful.

>
> Are you having a bad day? I made a one liner on the lemon grass then
> you asked and i added we grow it here for export and it's not that
> great stuff.
>
> Dunno where you are in your head right now but i'm not one of the folks
> who have ever lectured you about anything. I've not made any posts
> about Poke other than I like it.
>
> You are mixing me with someone else. Just drop it since you are not
> apt to apologize to me for doing that.
>
> --


I'll probably be having a bad year. Fair warning. If you find me offensive, well that's to be expected. I know I'm an asshole. OTOH, some people might find digging up random factoids about the eating habits of the native Americans in a discussion about Hawaiian poke in an effort to demonstrate intellectual superiority to be rude and disrespectful. Count me in as one of those people.

As far as any obsession with lemongrass goes, I'm not a fan and have written about this in the past. If I am mixing you with some other poster, then I profusely apologize. If I am not mixing you with some other poster well, we can just make believe that I made a mistake and I sincerely apologize.
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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 2:07:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >,
> Cindy Hamilton says...
> >
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

>
> > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to change
> > > the way
> > > the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
> > > from that will change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will
> > > be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
> > > eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!

> >
> > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food with
> > nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be more
> > precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
> > lemongrass.
> >
> > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
> > since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
> > You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
> > of the world.

>
> You don't seem to want to understand that he lives in Hawaii and that
> Hawaii is VERY special. Not just special, VERY special. Repeat after me:
> VERY special. Let's all pull out our lighters now.


I consider myself lucky to live here. This place has a strong and vibrant foodie culture and it's a happening place food-wise. Everybody should be proud of where they live and post about things that are happening in their town. If you have nothing positive to say about your town, well that's not my problem. The only suggestion I can offer is that you should get away from that place as soon as you can.
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In article >, dsi1
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>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 2:07:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:


> > You don't seem to want to understand that he lives in Hawaii and
> > that
> > Hawaii is VERY special. Not just special, VERY special. Repeat after me:
> > VERY special. Let's all pull out our lighters now.

>
> I consider myself lucky to live here. This place has a strong and
> vibrant foodie culture and it's a happening place food-wise. Everybody
> should be proud of where they live and post about things that are
> happening in their town. If you have nothing positive to say about
> your
> town, well that's not my problem. The only suggestion I can offer is
> that you should get away from that place as soon as you can.


I live in a beautiful part of the world too, but I don't want to gloat
and depress people who live in cities, with cars, concrete and other
people everywhere they look


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On 12/17/2016 10:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, dsi1
> says...
>>
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 2:07:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

>
>>> You don't seem to want to understand that he lives in Hawaii and
>>> that
>>> Hawaii is VERY special. Not just special, VERY special. Repeat after me:
>>> VERY special. Let's all pull out our lighters now.

>>
>> I consider myself lucky to live here. This place has a strong and
>> vibrant foodie culture and it's a happening place food-wise. Everybody
>> should be proud of where they live and post about things that are
>> happening in their town. If you have nothing positive to say about
>> your
>> town, well that's not my problem. The only suggestion I can offer is
>> that you should get away from that place as soon as you can.

>
> I live in a beautiful part of the world too, but I don't want to gloat
> and depress people who live in cities, with cars, concrete and other
> people everywhere they look
>


Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your town
and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
take that to the bank right there.
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In article >, dsi1 says...
>
> On 12/17/2016 10:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, dsi1
> > says...
> >>
> >> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 2:07:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

> >
> >>> You don't seem to want to understand that he lives in Hawaii and
> >>> that
> >>> Hawaii is VERY special. Not just special, VERY special. Repeat after me:
> >>> VERY special. Let's all pull out our lighters now.
> >>
> >> I consider myself lucky to live here. This place has a strong and
> >> vibrant foodie culture and it's a happening place food-wise. Everybody
> >> should be proud of where they live and post about things that are
> >> happening in their town. If you have nothing positive to say about
> >> your
> >> town, well that's not my problem. The only suggestion I can offer is
> >> that you should get away from that place as soon as you can.

> >
> > I live in a beautiful part of the world too, but I don't want to gloat
> > and depress people who live in cities, with cars, concrete and other
> > people everywhere they look
> >

>
> Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your town
> and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
> take that to the bank right there.


You're finger pointing again. But at who(m)? Who's committing these
offences you speak of so bitterly?
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:20:17 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 2:07:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Cindy Hamilton says...
>> >
>> > On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:45:32 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

>>
>> > > Back in the early 80's a group of Hawaiian chefs set out to change
>> > > the way
>> > > the people on this rock saw food. They succeeded and as a result, the fallout
>> > > from that will change how people on the mainland will eat i.e., Hawaii will
>> > > be at the forefront of foodie trends in N. America. These days, the kids are
>> > > eating raw fish as a meal and they're loving it. Hoo boy!
>> >
>> > You don't seem to discriminate between "we'll be making food with
>> > nanobots" and "we've discovered lemongrass". Can't you be more
>> > precise? You don't make a case for nanobots by mentioning
>> > lemongrass.
>> >
>> > In any event, I've been using lemongrass and eating raw fish
>> > since the 1970s, in the wilds of Michigan. It's old news.
>> > You write as if you're 20 years old and have no experience
>> > of the world.

>>
>> You don't seem to want to understand that he lives in Hawaii and that
>> Hawaii is VERY special. Not just special, VERY special. Repeat after me:
>> VERY special. Let's all pull out our lighters now.

>
>I consider myself lucky to live here. This place has a strong and vibrant foodie culture and it's a happening place food-wise. Everybody should be proud of where they live and post about things that are happening in their town. If you have nothing positive to say about your town, well that's not my problem. The only suggestion I can offer is that you should get away from that place as soon as you can.


Not everyone lives in a town.
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:38:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

>On 12/17/2016 10:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> In article >, dsi1
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 2:07:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

>>
>>>> You don't seem to want to understand that he lives in Hawaii and
>>>> that
>>>> Hawaii is VERY special. Not just special, VERY special. Repeat after me:
>>>> VERY special. Let's all pull out our lighters now.
>>>
>>> I consider myself lucky to live here. This place has a strong and
>>> vibrant foodie culture and it's a happening place food-wise. Everybody
>>> should be proud of where they live and post about things that are
>>> happening in their town. If you have nothing positive to say about
>>> your
>>> town, well that's not my problem. The only suggestion I can offer is
>>> that you should get away from that place as soon as you can.

>>
>> I live in a beautiful part of the world too, but I don't want to gloat
>> and depress people who live in cities, with cars, concrete and other
>> people everywhere they look
>>

>
>Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your town
>and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
>take that to the bank right there.


Lucky for you I can't be bothered wading through your old posts to
prove your hypocrisy.
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 15:57:26 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, Jeßus says...
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 12:07:18 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, dsi1 says...
>> >>
>> >> You're the one that's so proud that her home sells and exports
>> >> lemongrass. I have tried the fresh stuff and would never use it again. I
>> >> have recommended that people not use the fresh stuff to make lemongrass
>> >> chicken.
>> >
>> >Silly man.
>> >>
>> >> This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may have
>> >> lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If you don't
>> >> know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about it. I have my
>> >> ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect that. Put forth
>> >> your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so disrespectful.
>> >
>> >You're positively finger pointing.

>>
>> He's obsessed with not losing face and getting respect, but doesnt
>> respect the western culture he lives in.

>
>Yes, and he forgets rule number one if you want respect: don't talk
>nonsense.


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