"dsi1" > wrote in message
news
> On 12/17/2016 10:44 PM, Bruce wrote:

>> I live in a beautiful part of the world too, but I don't want to gloat
>> and depress people who live in cities, with cars, concrete and other
>> people everywhere they look
>>
>
> Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your town
> and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
> take that to the bank right there.

+10,000

Cheri

On 12/18/2016 12:13 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> You are mixing me with someone else. Just drop it since you are not
>> apt to apologize to me for doing that.
>>
>> --
> I'll probably be having a bad year. Fair warning. If you find me offensive, well that's to be expected. I know
> I'm an asshole. OTOH, some people might find digging up random factoids about the eating habits of the native
> Americans in a discussion about Hawaiian poke in an effort to demonstrate intellectual superiority to be rude and
> disrespectful. Count me in as one of those people.
>
> As far as any obsession with lemongrass goes, I'm not a fan and have written about this in the past. If I am
> mixing you with some other poster, then I profusely apologize. If I am not mixing you with some other poster
> well, we can just make believe that I made a mistake and I sincerely apologize.


You see...over time...even YOU are not immune to the haters that infest
and set the culture of this group.

But you sure held out longer than any of the decent people here before
firing back.

Bravo!

On 12/18/2016 12:20 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> If you have nothing positive to say about your town, well that's not my problem. The only suggestion I can offer
> is that you should get away from that place as soon as you can.

That's how he abandoned Holland for Auz you know..

On 12/18/2016 2:38 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> I live in a beautiful part of the world too, but I don't want to gloat
>> and depress people who live in cities, with cars, concrete and other
>> people everywhere they look
>>
>
> Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your town
> and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
> take that to the bank right there.


Amen brother!

On 12/17/2016 10:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:27:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> >> dsi1 wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
>> >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
>> >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
>> >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
>> >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
>> >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
>> >> ------------------------
>> >>
>> >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
>> >
>> > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
>> > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
>> > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
>> > Americans were eating 50 years ago.
>>
>> That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
>> Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
>> eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
>> tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
>> Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
>> refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
>> access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
>>
>> When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
>> and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
>> were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
>>
>> Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
>> we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
>> the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
>> that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
>>
>> Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
>> immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
>> native cuisine.
>>
>> My guess is that you're not
>> > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's. I
>> > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
>> > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
>> > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
>> >
>> > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
>> >
>
> I can remember some of what I ate 50 years ago.
> Burgers and fries
> Fish sticks
> Pot roast
> Turkey, mashed potatoes and gravy
> Baked ham
> Fried chicken
> Scrambled eggs
> Pan-fried whitefish
> Canned green beans
> Lots of macaroni with butter, salt, and pepper.
>
> Yes, I eat a lot more vegetables now, and I've substituted
> lower-calorie preps for all of that frying, and have much
> more adventurous recipes, but it's still beef, chicken, pork,
> and some fish.
>
> We started out talking about food production technology, not
> exotic recipes.
>
> 100 years ago, it was beef, chicken, pork, and some fish.
>
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
> ====================
>
> I am still making now, many of the foods my Grandmother cooked when I was a
> young child, so I guess some of those foods and recipes went back around
> 100 years)
>
Same here! My mother was 82 when she died so her recipes are pretty
old. The recipes from both my Grandmothers are far older than 100
years. Some things withstand the test of time.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 12/17/2016 10:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:27:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-12-16 11:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:15:52 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> >> dsi1 wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> There's no reason to think that the foods in the UK will be the
>> >>> same as it is now. The foods will be transformed by the
>> >>> sociological, economic, and environmental, conditions of the
>> >>> time. A hundred years from now it's going to be totally changed.
>> >>> They may still have fish and chips but my guess is that the
>> >>> "fish" will be assembled by nano-bots.
>> >> ------------------------
>> >>
>> >> LOL. WTH is wrong with you? ;-D
>> >
>> > My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that Americans
>> > were eating a hundred years ago. You might believe that but you
>> > ain't. My guess is that you're not eating the same foods that
>> > Americans were eating 50 years ago.
>>
>> That is probably sort of possibly true. I would venture that most
>> Americans a hundred years ate a diet of things that some Americans still
>> eat, like beef, pork, chicken, turkey, bacon, eggs, ham, corn, potatoes,
>> tomatoes, carrots, onions, beans, peas etch. Descendants of those
>> Americans probably still eat a lot of those things, but thanks to
>> refrigeration and improved transportation, we now have almost year round
>> access to fresh fruits and vegetables. \
>>
>> When I was a kid the fresh produce section of the grocery store was tiny
>> and had only seasonal products. Most of the fruit and vegetables we had
>> were canned. Any dinner saw at least two cans opened.
>>
>> Thanks again to modern transportation we now also have access to things
>> we never used to be able to get. Produce sections not only have more of
>> the stuff we are used to, but they have all sorts of imported things
>> that he used to only read about or ate when we were travelling.
>>
>> Then there is the ethnic shift. The US and Canada have have massive
>> immigration from other countries and the immigrants have brought their
>> native cuisine.
>>
>> My guess is that you're not
>> > eating the same foods that you did during the 80's or even 90's. I
>> > sure ain't. Perhaps you've been in a coma for the last decade or so.
>> > Welcome back, the world has changed since you were out. For one
>> > thing, only old farts posting on Usenet use "LOL" these days.
>> >
>> > https://www.wired.com/2016/12/google...ing-car-waymo/
>> >
>
> I can remember some of what I ate 50 years ago.
> Burgers and fries
> Fish sticks
> Pot roast
> Turkey, mashed potatoes and gravy
> Baked ham
> Fried chicken
> Scrambled eggs
> Pan-fried whitefish
> Canned green beans
> Lots of macaroni with butter, salt, and pepper.
>
> Yes, I eat a lot more vegetables now, and I've substituted
> lower-calorie preps for all of that frying, and have much
> more adventurous recipes, but it's still beef, chicken, pork,
> and some fish.
>
> We started out talking about food production technology, not
> exotic recipes.
>
> 100 years ago, it was beef, chicken, pork, and some fish.
>
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
> ====================
>
> I am still making now, many of the foods my Grandmother cooked when I was
> a
> young child, so I guess some of those foods and recipes went back around
> 100 years)
>
Same here! My mother was 82 when she died so her recipes are pretty
old. The recipes from both my Grandmothers are far older than 100
years. Some things withstand the test of time.

Jill

===============

Oh Yes) Especially when they are really good)



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> >
> > Are you having a bad day? I made a one liner on the lemon grass
> > then you asked and i added we grow it here for export and it's not
> > that great stuff.
> >
> > Dunno where you are in your head right now but i'm not one of the
> > folks who have ever lectured you about anything. I've not made any
> > posts about Poke other than I like it.
> >
> > You are mixing me with someone else. Just drop it since you are not
> > apt to apologize to me for doing that.
> >
> > --
>
> I'll probably be having a bad year. Fair warning. If you find me
> offensive, well that's to be expected. I know I'm an asshole. OTOH,
> some people might find digging up random factoids about the eating
> habits of the native Americans in a discussion about Hawaiian poke in
> an effort to demonstrate intellectual superiority to be rude and
> disrespectful. Count me in as one of those people.

The discussion drifted as such normally do. It was no longer Hawaiian
Poke recipes. It was is anyone ate raw fish. Response was from several
cultures who do.

> As far as any obsession with lemongrass goes, I'm not a fan and have
> written about this in the past. If I am mixing you with some other
> poster, then I profusely apologize. If I am not mixing you with some
> other poster well, we can just make believe that I made a mistake and
> I sincerely apologize.

I am not a lemongrass fan. You may find Calamansi powder where you are
(hard to source here) that works better. Look for the ones with no
sugar added.

No worries, I just got mixed somehow with another here.

--

Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >, dsi1 says...
> >
> > You're the one that's so proud that her home sells and exports
> > lemongrass. I have tried the fresh stuff and would never use it
> > again. I have recommended that people not use the fresh stuff to
> > make lemongrass chicken.
>
> Silly man.
>
> > This bit about how you're right and I'm wrong is tiresome. You may
> > have lived here but you don't seem to know anything about poke. If
> > you don't know a thing about the subject, don't lecture me about
> > it. I have my ideas about things, you have your own. I can respect
> > that. Put forth your own ideas and leave mine alone. Quit being so
> > disrespectful.
>
> You're positively finger pointing.

Let it be Bruce. He got confused on who said what and we have it
straight now that it wasn't me.

--

dsi1 wrote:
>
>If you have nothing positive to say about your town, well that's not my problem.
>The only suggestion I can offer is that you should get away from that place as
>soon as you can.

Every town has a good and a bad side of the proverbial tracks.

> "jmcquown" wrote in message news

> Same here! My mother was 82 when she died so her recipes are pretty
> old. The recipes from both my Grandmothers are far older than 100
> years. Some things withstand the test of time.
>
> Jill

Like the green bean casserole!!!

Cheri

On 12/18/2016 2:52 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news
>
>> Same here! My mother was 82 when she died so her recipes are pretty
>> old. The recipes from both my Grandmothers are far older than 100
>> years. Some things withstand the test of time.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Like the green bean casserole!!!
>
> Cheri
>
LOL I still have mom's hand written copy of that recipe which she taped
inside a cupboard door. I do NOT ever remember her making it. I just
leave it there because it is nostalgic.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 12/18/2016 2:52 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news
>>
>>> Same here! My mother was 82 when she died so her recipes are pretty
>>> old. The recipes from both my Grandmothers are far older than 100
>>> years. Some things withstand the test of time.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Like the green bean casserole!!!
>>
>> Cheri
>>
> LOL I still have mom's hand written copy of that recipe which she taped
> inside a cupboard door. I do NOT ever remember her making it. I just
> leave it there because it is nostalgic.
>
> Jill

We always had it and loved it, still do but I must say that I don't really
make it often anymore.

Cheri

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 12:07:40 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, dsi1 says...
> >
> > On 12/17/2016 10:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > > In article >, dsi1
> > > says...
> > >>
> > >> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 2:07:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > >>> You don't seem to want to understand that he lives in Hawaii and
> > >>> that
> > >>> Hawaii is VERY special. Not just special, VERY special. Repeat after me:
> > >>> VERY special. Let's all pull out our lighters now.
> > >>
> > >> I consider myself lucky to live here. This place has a strong and
> > >> vibrant foodie culture and it's a happening place food-wise. Everybody
> > >> should be proud of where they live and post about things that are
> > >> happening in their town. If you have nothing positive to say about
> > >> your
> > >> town, well that's not my problem. The only suggestion I can offer is
> > >> that you should get away from that place as soon as you can.
> > >
> > > I live in a beautiful part of the world too, but I don't want to gloat
> > > and depress people who live in cities, with cars, concrete and other
> > > people everywhere they look
> > >
> >
> > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your town
> > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
> > take that to the bank right there.
>
> You're finger pointing again. But at who(m)? Who's committing these
> offences you speak of so bitterly?

You say I'm pointing fingers but now you request information about who it's pointing at. I'm afraid I can't do that Bruce.

In article >, dsi1
says...
>
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 12:07:40 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, dsi1 says...
> > >
> > > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your
> > > town
> > > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
> > > take that to the bank right there.
> >
> > You're finger pointing again. But at who(m)? Who's committing these
> > offences you speak of so bitterly?
>
> You say I'm pointing fingers

Yes.

> but now you request information about who it's pointing at.

Yes, we're communicating succesfully.

> I'm afraid I can't do that Bruce.

Bummer.

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:47:35 PM UTC-10, Sqwertz wrote:
> On 12/18/2016 6:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > Of course it matters not a whit what the eaters of the boomer generation will eat or think. The new generations of
> > young people is what drives food trends and they have taken to poke in a most unexpected way. I love how the
> > mainland chefs have transformed this dish.
> >
> > http://www.bonappetit.com/entertaini...s/article/poke
>
> That is laudably non-provincial of you...really.
>
> You are a foodie first and a rock-dweller second I think.

I believe that Hawaiian food will be trending big on the mainland. What will happen is that the chefs there will transform our foods, just as they have done to our simple poke. That's very exciting.

Back in the early 90's a group of young chefs in Hawaii got together and planned nothing less than a complete overhaul on how we see Hawaiian foods. The group of 12 dubbed their movement of fresh ideas "Hawaii Regional Cuisine." Oddly enough, they succeeded beyond all expectations. The young chefs on the mainland are talented and creative. I expect that they may bring about the second revolution in Hawaii Regional Cuisine. It might even change everything.

https://www.hawaii.com/discover/hawa...ional-cuisine/

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 4:42:30 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 17:05:13 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > People past the age of 60 are unlikely to appreciate poke unless they grew up eating raw fish. My guess is old folks will find the dish disgusting. Don't say I didn't warn you.
>
> I love poke, but I'm particular about how they flavor it - original
> style is best... but I really like tuna sashimi too, and order it as
> part of my Bento box.
>
>
> --
> Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

I like that old style too. Most of the time everybody will eat the spicy ahi poke. The sauce is Sriracha/mayo/sesame oil, and small fish eggs. I guess the younger eaters will favor the spicy stuff and the older ones, the original. I must be getting old.

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 4:48:17 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:38:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>
> > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your town
> > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
> > take that to the bank right there.
>
> I was raised in the country (in a log cabin house the woods, on the
> edge of a lake) and I don't miss it in the slightest. I love City
> living! If I want to see the countryside, I can drive for half an
> hour and I'm as country as I want to be. You couldn't pay me enough
> to live there.
>
>
> --
> Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

I too, like to live with other people rather than bears or trout. If I need any contact with will animals, there's always some chickens running around here.

In article >, sf says...
>
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:38:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>
> > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your town
> > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
> > take that to the bank right there.
>
> I was raised in the country (in a log cabin house the woods, on the
> edge of a lake) and I don't miss it in the slightest. I love City
> living! If I want to see the countryside, I can drive for half an
> hour and I'm as country as I want to be. You couldn't pay me enough
> to live there.

If all you city people wanted to move to the countryside, you'd ruin it!
Stay huddled up together in the cities and leave us lots of room

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:37:24 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

> In article >, sf says...
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:38:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
> >
> > > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your town
> > > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You can
> > > take that to the bank right there.
> >
> > I was raised in the country (in a log cabin house the woods, on the
> > edge of a lake) and I don't miss it in the slightest. I love City
> > living! If I want to see the countryside, I can drive for half an
> > hour and I'm as country as I want to be. You couldn't pay me enough
> > to live there.
>
> If all you city people wanted to move to the countryside, you'd ruin it!
> Stay huddled up together in the cities and leave us lots of room

Gladly!


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:37:24 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>> In article >, sf says...
>> >
>> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:38:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your
>> > > town
>> > > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You
>> > > can
>> > > take that to the bank right there.
>> >
>> > I was raised in the country (in a log cabin house the woods, on the
>> > edge of a lake) and I don't miss it in the slightest. I love City
>> > living! If I want to see the countryside, I can drive for half an
>> > hour and I'm as country as I want to be. You couldn't pay me enough
>> > to live there.
>>
>> If all you city people wanted to move to the countryside, you'd ruin it!
>> Stay huddled up together in the cities and leave us lots of room
>
> Gladly!

I would gladly live in the country, in this country.

Cheri

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, Cheri says...
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:37:24 +1100, Bruce >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article >, sf says...
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:38:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your
>> >> > > town
>> >> > > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character.
>> >> > > You
>> >> > > can
>> >> > > take that to the bank right there.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was raised in the country (in a log cabin house the woods, on the
>> >> > edge of a lake) and I don't miss it in the slightest. I love City
>> >> > living! If I want to see the countryside, I can drive for half an
>> >> > hour and I'm as country as I want to be. You couldn't pay me enough
>> >> > to live there.
>> >>
>> >> If all you city people wanted to move to the countryside, you'd ruin
>> >> it!
>> >> Stay huddled up together in the cities and leave us lots of room
>> >
>> > Gladly!
>>
>> I would gladly live in the country, in this country.
>
> Are you dissing other people's countrysides? Did you fall of the
> bandwagon?

Unlike you, I've never dissed other people's country, politics,etc. I prefer
to live in mine.

Cheri

In article >, Cheri says...
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> T...
> > In article >, Cheri says...
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:37:24 +1100, Bruce >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> If all you city people wanted to move to the countryside, you'd ruin
> >> >> it!
> >> >> Stay huddled up together in the cities and leave us lots of room
> >> >
> >> > Gladly!
> >>
> >> I would gladly live in the country, in this country.
> >
> > Are you dissing other people's countrysides? Did you fall of the
> > bandwagon?
>
> Unlike you, I've never dissed other people's country, politics,etc. I prefer
> to live in mine.

Some people have opinions about things. Other people just mouth breathe.

On 2016-12-19 2:30 PM, Bruce wrote:

>> Unlike you, I've never dissed other people's country, politics,etc. I prefer
>> to live in mine.
>
> Some people have opinions about things. Other people just mouth breathe.
>


So true, and thanks for the demonstration.

In article >, Dave Smith says...
>
> On 2016-12-19 2:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
> >> Unlike you, I've never dissed other people's country, politics,etc. I prefer
> >> to live in mine.
> >
> > Some people have opinions about things. Other people just mouth breathe.
> >
>
>
> So true, and thanks for the demonstration.

Close your mouth, boy.

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 12/18/2016 12:56 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Are you having a bad day? I made a one liner on the lemon grass
> > > > then you asked and i added we grow it here for export and it's
> > > > not that great stuff.
> > > >
> > > > Dunno where you are in your head right now but i'm not one of
> > > > the folks who have ever lectured you about anything. I've not
> > > > made any posts about Poke other than I like it.
> > > >
> > > > You are mixing me with someone else. Just drop it since you
> > > > are not apt to apologize to me for doing that.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > >
> > > I'll probably be having a bad year. Fair warning. If you find me
> > > offensive, well that's to be expected. I know I'm an asshole.
> > > OTOH, some people might find digging up random factoids about the
> > > eating habits of the native Americans in a discussion about
> > > Hawaiian poke in an effort to demonstrate intellectual
> > > superiority to be rude and disrespectful. Count me in as one of
> > > those people.
> >
> > The discussion drifted as such normally do. It was no longer
> > Hawaiian Poke recipes. It was is anyone ate raw fish. Response was
> > from several cultures who do.
> >
> No one but you and dsi1 have mentioned Hawaiian poke in this thread.
> I don't care nor do I want ever want to eat poke or any raw fish.
> Thing is, he seems to think only hawaiian natives ever ate this.
> Sorry, he's way wrong about that.
>
> Jill

Yeah, and I only mentioned it in response to his talking about it.

I probably have mentioned it sometime in the past. It's normal
rendition I was used to was a rather nice dish with sort of small cubed
raw fish an dressed with seaweed and you added shoyu (soy sauce) and
sometimes other things. The type of seaweed used looked a lot like
rosemary but softer. Sesame seeds in there too.

Anyways, lots of folks eat raw fish. Ceveche anyone? (Technically it
is considered cooked but it's 'cooked' by citrus juices).

--

cshenk wrote:
>
> Anyways, lots of folks eat raw fish.

Not me. Only raw fish I've tried is tuna. It's ok but
better to cook it just a bit. Tastes so much better.

I think this raw fish thing is just a fad.
Or a paleo thing. Eat like cavemen did before
they discovered fire.

Raw oysters don't hold a candle to slightly cooked.
Either steamed or fried is so much better.

IMO, all this raw meat crap is BS. Hey, just my opinion. :-D

On 2016-12-20 11:24 AM, Gary wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
>>
>> Anyways, lots of folks eat raw fish.
>
> Not me. Only raw fish I've tried is tuna. It's ok but
> better to cook it just a bit. Tastes so much better.

A little raw fish seems to go a long way.
>

> Raw oysters don't hold a candle to slightly cooked.
> Either steamed or fried is so much better.

I have not had raw oyster in ages but I like them. Splash a little lemon
and some hot sauce and pour them down your throat. They are like a tonic.

> IMO, all this raw meat crap is BS. Hey, just my opinion. :-D
Some meats are good raw.

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 11:25:28 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Anyways, lots of folks eat raw fish.
>
> Not me. Only raw fish I've tried is tuna. It's ok but
> better to cook it just a bit. Tastes so much better.
>
> I think this raw fish thing is just a fad.
> Or a paleo thing. Eat like cavemen did before
> they discovered fire.
>
> Raw oysters don't hold a candle to slightly cooked.
> Either steamed or fried is so much better.
>
> IMO, all this raw meat crap is BS. Hey, just my opinion. :-D

Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
I've been eating raw fish for almost 40 years,
so it's not a fad with me. When I was young, I'd
even take a little bite of raw steak or hamburger
when I was cooking. I can't remember the last time
I had a cooked oyster, but it probably was in a can
of Campbell's oyster stew.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 22:34:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:37:24 +1100, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >, sf says...
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:38:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your
> >> > > town
> >> > > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You
> >> > > can
> >> > > take that to the bank right there.
> >> >
> >> > I was raised in the country (in a log cabin house the woods, on the
> >> > edge of a lake) and I don't miss it in the slightest. I love City
> >> > living! If I want to see the countryside, I can drive for half an
> >> > hour and I'm as country as I want to be. You couldn't pay me enough
> >> > to live there.
> >>
> >> If all you city people wanted to move to the countryside, you'd ruin it!
> >> Stay huddled up together in the cities and leave us lots of room
> >
> > Gladly!
>
> I would gladly live in the country, in this country.
>
Agree. As far as the countryside, it's a nice place to visit but I
don't want to live there. Way too boring for me and much noisier than
living in a city has ever been.



--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:30:07 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 11:25:28 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> cshenk wrote:
>> >
>> > Anyways, lots of folks eat raw fish.
>>
>> Not me. Only raw fish I've tried is tuna. It's ok but
>> better to cook it just a bit. Tastes so much better.
>>
>> I think this raw fish thing is just a fad.
>> Or a paleo thing. Eat like cavemen did before
>> they discovered fire.
>>
>> Raw oysters don't hold a candle to slightly cooked.
>> Either steamed or fried is so much better.
>>
>> IMO, all this raw meat crap is BS. Hey, just my opinion. :-D
>
>Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
>I've been eating raw fish for almost 40 years,
>so it's not a fad with me. When I was young, I'd
>even take a little bite of raw steak or hamburger
>when I was cooking. I can't remember the last time
>I had a cooked oyster, but it probably was in a can
>of Campbell's oyster stew.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Oysters are one thing I prefer cooked over raw -

http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/880/oysters+kilpatrick

I liked raw hamburger but believe perhaps it's chancy these days In
Switzerland a steak made of raw horse hamburger was great, never see
that over here though.

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
news:03c6af04-97e3-4fa7-8f87-

> Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
> I've been eating raw fish for almost 40 years,
> so it's not a fad with me. When I was young, I'd
> even take a little bite of raw steak or hamburger
> when I was cooking. I can't remember the last time
> I had a cooked oyster, but it probably was in a can
> of Campbell's oyster stew.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

My kids used to love raw hamburger, they would gather around when I started
the meat loaf.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 22:34:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:37:24 +1100, Bruce >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article >, sf says...
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:38:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your
>> >> > > town
>> >> > > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character.
>> >> > > You
>> >> > > can
>> >> > > take that to the bank right there.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was raised in the country (in a log cabin house the woods, on the
>> >> > edge of a lake) and I don't miss it in the slightest. I love City
>> >> > living! If I want to see the countryside, I can drive for half an
>> >> > hour and I'm as country as I want to be. You couldn't pay me enough
>> >> > to live there.
>> >>
>> >> If all you city people wanted to move to the countryside, you'd ruin
>> >> it!
>> >> Stay huddled up together in the cities and leave us lots of room
>> >
>> > Gladly!
>>
>> I would gladly live in the country, in this country.
>>
> Agree. As far as the countryside, it's a nice place to visit but I
> don't want to live there. Way too boring for me and much noisier than
> living in a city has ever been.

I imagine it's what one gets used to, not at all boring for me, and quieter,
but then I live across from a high school wiht boom boxes, band practice
etc. :-)

Cheri

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:59:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> I imagine it's what one gets used to, not at all boring for me, and quieter,
> but then I live across from a high school wiht boom boxes, band practice
> etc. :-)

That would definitely color my attitude! I grew up in the country and
knew I was meant for big City living my first night here. My bedroom
window overlooked Noe Valley and seeing the expanse of street & house
lights from one side of the valley to the other was absolutely
spellbinding for me.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

In article >, says...
>

>
> I think this raw fish thing is just a fad.

One that's lasted since the middle ages, when fishermen first started
making gravlax and soused herring. These "fads" lasted centuries because
it's delicious food..

Janet UK

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 2:30:19 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:59:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> > I imagine it's what one gets used to, not at all boring for me, and quieter,
> > but then I live across from a high school wiht boom boxes, band practice
> > etc. :-)
>
> That would definitely color my attitude! I grew up in the country and
> knew I was meant for big City living my first night here. My bedroom
> window overlooked Noe Valley and seeing the expanse of street & house
> lights from one side of the valley to the other was absolutely
> spellbinding for me.

I like living just outside a medium-sized college town. Whenever I
visit a big city, all I can think is "hive". I like having a little
space between me and my neighbors; a 2-acre lot is just about the
right size. It's gotta be a college town, though.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2016-12-20 2:30 PM, sf wrote:

>> I imagine it's what one gets used to, not at all boring for me, and quieter,
>> but then I live across from a high school wiht boom boxes, band practice
>> etc. :-)
>
> That would definitely color my attitude! I grew up in the country and
> knew I was meant for big City living my first night here. My bedroom
> window overlooked Noe Valley and seeing the expanse of street & house
> lights from one side of the valley to the other was absolutely
> spellbinding for me.
>

I have had the best of both worlds, having spent my childhood in a small
town but close to the city and spending lots of time there. Then I lived
in a smallish city (130,000) and only an hour from Toronto. For the last
40 years I have lived in a rural area, 3 miles from town, and a number
of cities nearby. I can still get to downtown Toronto in about an hour
and 20 minutes, which isn't much more than it can take people from the
suburbs to get downtown. We used to think nothing of getting up on a
Saturday morning, driving into the city, do some shopping, some
visiting, have a nice lunch and/or supper and come back at night. We
had out of town memberships at the museum and the art gallery. When
talking to my wife's old school friends about all the thinks they
thought we were missing, it turned out that we were doing a lot more of
the city things than they were.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>
>>
>> I think this raw fish thing is just a fad.
>
> One that's lasted since the middle ages, when fishermen first started
> making gravlax and soused herring. These "fads" lasted centuries because
> it's delicious food..
>
> Janet UK

It's always funny to me that if it's something one doesn't like, it's a fad,
but if it's something one does like, it's a long standing tradition.

Cheri

In article >, Gary says...
>
> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Anyways, lots of folks eat raw fish.
>
> Not me. Only raw fish I've tried is tuna. It's ok but
> better to cook it just a bit. Tastes so much better.
>
> I think this raw fish thing is just a fad.
> Or a paleo thing. Eat like cavemen did before
> they discovered fire.

I love raw fish. Even in the western world, people have been eating it
way too long for it to be a fad.

> Raw oysters don't hold a candle to slightly cooked.
> Either steamed or fried is so much better.

For me, the best oysters are raw oysters. Don't you dare cook 'em.

> IMO, all this raw meat crap is BS. Hey, just my opinion. :-D

And you know what they say about opinions

In article >, sf says...
>
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 22:34:51 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:37:24 +1100, Bruce >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article >, sf says...
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:38:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Dumping on other people's town and country reflects poorly on your
> > >> > > town
> > >> > > and country and yourself. It shows a general lack of character. You
> > >> > > can
> > >> > > take that to the bank right there.
> > >> >
> > >> > I was raised in the country (in a log cabin house the woods, on the
> > >> > edge of a lake) and I don't miss it in the slightest. I love City
> > >> > living! If I want to see the countryside, I can drive for half an
> > >> > hour and I'm as country as I want to be. You couldn't pay me enough
> > >> > to live there.
> > >>
> > >> If all you city people wanted to move to the countryside, you'd ruin it!
> > >> Stay huddled up together in the cities and leave us lots of room
> > >
> > > Gladly!
> >
> > I would gladly live in the country, in this country.
> >
> Agree. As far as the countryside, it's a nice place to visit but I
> don't want to live there. Way too boring for me and much noisier than
> living in a city has ever been.

Living in the city has its advantages, especially when I was younger.
But the countryside's so much more beautiful. I only have to walk out of
the door and I feel like I'm on holiday. There are animals everywhere.
And most of them even have legs!

"Bruce" > wrote in message
T...

> And you know what they say about opinions

And I'm betting you've been called that word enough to know exactly what it
is they say, sorry couldn't resist...but in the spirit of good will and the
holiday season, it will be my last remark of that kind for the year. LOL

Cheri