On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 11:48:57 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-12-17 10:18 AM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2016-12-17, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>
>>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>>
>> Same, same, fer chewing gum.
>>
>> I was entering a Sears store from an underground garage. TThose flat
>> discs of gum reflected the light jes perfectly and looked like so many
>> diamonds reflecting light. I always regret not getting that shot on
>> film. Looked beautiful, almost surreal, but basically it told me how
>> many young girls had zero qualms about tossing their gum on the
>> ground. Musta been a couple thousand discs. 8|
>
>That's why chewing gum is banned in Singapore.

True. I never saw one piece of gum anywhere there. The place almost
looked too clean, if that's possible.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 17 Dec 2016 15:18:12 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >On 2016-12-17, jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/16/2016 7:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >>> I often see people flicking their butts on the way into stores, malls
> >>> and restaurants, and I usually fine myself telling them "Don't worry.
> >>> Someone else will pick that up for you".
> >
> >> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
> >
> >Same, same, fer chewing gum.
> >
> >I was entering a Sears store from an underground garage. TThose flat
> >discs of gum reflected the light jes perfectly and looked like so many
> >diamonds reflecting light. I always regret not getting that shot on
> >film. Looked beautiful, almost surreal, but basically it told me how
> >many young girls had zero qualms about tossing their gum on the
> >ground. Musta been a couple thousand discs. 8|
> >
> >nb
> >
> Why do you assume it was only young girls doing this???????

lol

In article >, Dave Smith says...
>
> On 2016-12-17 10:42 AM, wrote:
> > On 17 Dec 2016 15:18:12 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >> I was entering a Sears store from an underground garage. TThose flat
> >> discs of gum reflected the light jes perfectly and looked like so many
> >> diamonds reflecting light. I always regret not getting that shot on
> >> film. Looked beautiful, almost surreal, but basically it told me how
> >> many young girls had zero qualms about tossing their gum on the
> >> ground. Musta been a couple thousand discs. 8|
> >>
> >> nb
> >>
> > Why do you assume it was only young girls doing this???????
>
> I have no reason to think nb's observations would be any different from
> mine. I see a lot more young women chewing gum than men. Some boys may
> be chewing bubble gum when they are playing, but he was talking about a
> parking garage at Sears, not the place where kids are usually playing
> unaccompanied, and parents don't usually let their kids chew gum when
> they are out shopping. No doubt things are different where you live. It
> might be those octigenarian soccer players.

For your own good: never play the gender card to lucretia. She has a
whole army of them. She IS the gender card.

On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 04:16:36 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 11:56:09 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 12/15/2016 5:47 PM, Janet wrote:
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 10:53:20 -0800 (PST), "
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Why are so many vegans/vegetarians obnoxious?
>> >>
>> >> Some of them feel morally superior, and assume their way is the only
>> >> legitimate way. Sometimes it alleviates any doubts they have about
>> >> their own self worth, giving some meaning to their lives. Some also
>> >> take advantage/abuse it for attention seeking reasons (as minorities
>> >> of any kind sometimes do).
>> >
>> > I've met many vegans and vegetarians but none of them were like that.
>> >
>> > Janet UK
>> >
>> I never known anyone (personally) announce they were vegetarian or
>> vegan, except on Usenet.
>
>I've lived in a college town since 1975. I can't count how many
>vegetarians or vegans I've known.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Bragin' or complainin'... academics haven't ripened, all are
infantile.

On 12/17/2016 1:27 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 11:48:57 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-12-17 10:18 AM, notbob wrote:
>>> On 2016-12-17, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>>>
>>> Same, same, fer chewing gum.
>>>
>>> I was entering a Sears store from an underground garage. TThose flat
>>> discs of gum reflected the light jes perfectly and looked like so many
>>> diamonds reflecting light. I always regret not getting that shot on
>>> film. Looked beautiful, almost surreal, but basically it told me how
>>> many young girls had zero qualms about tossing their gum on the
>>> ground. Musta been a couple thousand discs. 8|
>>
>> That's why chewing gum is banned in Singapore.
>
> True. I never saw one piece of gum anywhere there. The place almost
> looked too clean, if that's possible.
>
The cleanest place I ever saw was Penang, Malaysia.

Jill

On 12/17/2016 1:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 12/16/2016 11:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 12/16/2016 7:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> I often see people flicking their butts on the way into stores, malls
>>> and restaurants, and I usually fine myself telling them "Don't worry.
>>> Someone else will pick that up for you".
>>>
>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>
> The unfortunate thing is that there are Many smokers out
> there making you all look bad. They had to ban smoking
> on the beaches because smokers thought of them as big giant
> ashtrays.
>
> Presumably these are people who love the beach. Go figure.
>
> Then you have the ones who flick it out the car window, or they
> empty their ashtray onto the pavement.
>
> I don't picture you doing that, ever. That is what people see,
> though.
>
> nancy
>
I certainly don't do that! I don't let the car ashtray get so full that
I feel I need to dump it when I'm driving. When we were driving down
here in my car I kept a bag in the car and would empty the ashtray into
it and toss the bag in a garbage can at rest stops.

Jill

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:23:52 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/17/2016 1:27 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 11:48:57 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-12-17 10:18 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2016-12-17, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>>>>
>>>> Same, same, fer chewing gum.
>>>>
>>>> I was entering a Sears store from an underground garage. TThose flat
>>>> discs of gum reflected the light jes perfectly and looked like so many
>>>> diamonds reflecting light. I always regret not getting that shot on
>>>> film. Looked beautiful, almost surreal, but basically it told me how
>>>> many young girls had zero qualms about tossing their gum on the
>>>> ground. Musta been a couple thousand discs. 8|
>>>
>>> That's why chewing gum is banned in Singapore.
>>
>> True. I never saw one piece of gum anywhere there. The place almost
>> looked too clean, if that's possible.
>>
>The cleanest place I ever saw was Penang, Malaysia.

I imagine Penang would be similar to Singapore in that way. It would
make an interesting stopover when I next go to Phnom Penh.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:27:17 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/17/2016 1:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 12/16/2016 11:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2016 7:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> I often see people flicking their butts on the way into stores, malls
>>>> and restaurants, and I usually fine myself telling them "Don't worry.
>>>> Someone else will pick that up for you".
>>>>
>>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>>
>> The unfortunate thing is that there are Many smokers out
>> there making you all look bad. They had to ban smoking
>> on the beaches because smokers thought of them as big giant
>> ashtrays.
>>
>> Presumably these are people who love the beach. Go figure.
>>
>> Then you have the ones who flick it out the car window, or they
>> empty their ashtray onto the pavement.
>>
>> I don't picture you doing that, ever. That is what people see,
>> though.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>I certainly don't do that! I don't let the car ashtray get so full that
>I feel I need to dump it when I'm driving. When we were driving down
>here in my car I kept a bag in the car and would empty the ashtray into
>it and toss the bag in a garbage can at rest stops.
>
>Jill

Why are you still smoking?

On 12/18/2016 2:27 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:27:17 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/17/2016 1:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2016 11:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 12/16/2016 7:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I often see people flicking their butts on the way into stores, malls
>>>>> and restaurants, and I usually fine myself telling them "Don't worry.
>>>>> Someone else will pick that up for you".
>>>>>
>>>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>>>
>>> The unfortunate thing is that there are Many smokers out
>>> there making you all look bad. They had to ban smoking
>>> on the beaches because smokers thought of them as big giant
>>> ashtrays.
>>>
>>> Presumably these are people who love the beach. Go figure.
>>>
>>> Then you have the ones who flick it out the car window, or they
>>> empty their ashtray onto the pavement.
>>>
>>> I don't picture you doing that, ever. That is what people see,
>>> though.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>>
>> I certainly don't do that! I don't let the car ashtray get so full that
>> I feel I need to dump it when I'm driving. When we were driving down
>> here in my car I kept a bag in the car and would empty the ashtray into
>> it and toss the bag in a garbage can at rest stops.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Why are you still smoking?
>
Because it's a difficult habit to break. Nicotene is an addictive
substance. I don't smoke all that much. FWIW, there is not an ash tray
in the bedroom. I have *never* smoked while in bed. There isn't an ash
tray in the kitchen, either. I mostly smoke when I'm in front of the
computer answering questions like this. Or watching television. Half a
pack a day at most. I know it's bad for me. I don't need a lecture.

Jill

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 15:22:43 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/18/2016 2:27 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:27:17 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/17/2016 1:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> On 12/16/2016 11:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 12/16/2016 7:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I often see people flicking their butts on the way into stores, malls
>>>>>> and restaurants, and I usually fine myself telling them "Don't worry.
>>>>>> Someone else will pick that up for you".
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>>>>
>>>> The unfortunate thing is that there are Many smokers out
>>>> there making you all look bad. They had to ban smoking
>>>> on the beaches because smokers thought of them as big giant
>>>> ashtrays.
>>>>
>>>> Presumably these are people who love the beach. Go figure.
>>>>
>>>> Then you have the ones who flick it out the car window, or they
>>>> empty their ashtray onto the pavement.
>>>>
>>>> I don't picture you doing that, ever. That is what people see,
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>>
>>> I certainly don't do that! I don't let the car ashtray get so full that
>>> I feel I need to dump it when I'm driving. When we were driving down
>>> here in my car I kept a bag in the car and would empty the ashtray into
>>> it and toss the bag in a garbage can at rest stops.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Why are you still smoking?
>>
>Because it's a difficult habit to break. Nicotene is an addictive
>substance. I don't smoke all that much. FWIW, there is not an ash tray
>in the bedroom. I have *never* smoked while in bed. There isn't an ash
>tray in the kitchen, either. I mostly smoke when I'm in front of the
>computer answering questions like this. Or watching television. Half a
>pack a day at most. I know it's bad for me. I don't need a lecture.
>
>Jill

I didn't know you smoked and if you hadn't mentioned it in your post
I'd never know, but I gave no lecture. Being an ex smoker I know it's
difficult to quit... have you seriously tried?

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 15:30:46 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>I didn't know you smoked and if you hadn't mentioned it in your post
>I'd never know, but I gave no lecture. Being an ex smoker I know it's
>difficult to quit... have you seriously tried?

And yoose fercoktah faggots love smoking cigarettes coz its a
substitute for sucking dick. YOOOSE breaths all smell like fermented
pussy. Only pussy YOOOOSE ever known was at birth... flamin' faggots!

Hic.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 12/18/2016 2:27 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:27:17 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/17/2016 1:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> On 12/16/2016 11:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 12/16/2016 7:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I often see people flicking their butts on the way into stores,
>>>>>> malls
>>>>>> and restaurants, and I usually fine myself telling them "Don't worry.
>>>>>> Someone else will pick that up for you".
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>>>>
>>>> The unfortunate thing is that there are Many smokers out
>>>> there making you all look bad. They had to ban smoking
>>>> on the beaches because smokers thought of them as big giant
>>>> ashtrays.
>>>>
>>>> Presumably these are people who love the beach. Go figure.
>>>>
>>>> Then you have the ones who flick it out the car window, or they
>>>> empty their ashtray onto the pavement.
>>>>
>>>> I don't picture you doing that, ever. That is what people see,
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>>
>>> I certainly don't do that! I don't let the car ashtray get so full that
>>> I feel I need to dump it when I'm driving. When we were driving down
>>> here in my car I kept a bag in the car and would empty the ashtray into
>>> it and toss the bag in a garbage can at rest stops.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Why are you still smoking?
>>
> Because it's a difficult habit to break. Nicotene is an addictive
> substance. I don't smoke all that much. FWIW, there is not an ash tray
> in the bedroom. I have *never* smoked while in bed. There isn't an ash
> tray in the kitchen, either. I mostly smoke when I'm in front of the
> computer answering questions like this. Or watching television. Half a
> pack a day at most. I know it's bad for me. I don't need a lecture.
>
> Jill

It took me several tries before it took. I used nicotine tablets for awhile
afterward, easy to get hooked on those too, but you'll quit when you're
ready, or not. This is my meter now.

Seven years, two weeks, six days, 21 hours, 16 minutes and 2 seconds.

Cheri

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 12/18/2016 2:27 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:27:17 -0500, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/17/2016 1:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> > > > On 12/16/2016 11:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > On 12/16/2016 7:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > I often see people flicking their butts on the way into
> > > > > > stores, malls and restaurants, and I usually fine myself
> > > > > > telling them "Don't worry. Someone else will pick that up
> > > > > > for you".
> > > > > >
> > > > > I'm so sorry you have to see that. I never do.
> > > >
> > > > The unfortunate thing is that there are Many smokers out
> > > > there making you all look bad. They had to ban smoking
> > > > on the beaches because smokers thought of them as big giant
> > > > ashtrays.
> > > >
> > > > Presumably these are people who love the beach. Go figure.
> > > >
> > > > Then you have the ones who flick it out the car window, or they
> > > > empty their ashtray onto the pavement.
> > > >
> > > > I don't picture you doing that, ever. That is what people see,
> > > > though.
> > > >
> > > > nancy
> > > >
> > > I certainly don't do that! I don't let the car ashtray get so
> > > full that I feel I need to dump it when I'm driving. When we
> > > were driving down here in my car I kept a bag in the car and
> > > would empty the ashtray into it and toss the bag in a garbage can
> > > at rest stops.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Why are you still smoking?
> >
> Because it's a difficult habit to break. Nicotene is an addictive
> substance. I don't smoke all that much. FWIW, there is not an ash
> tray in the bedroom. I have never smoked while in bed. There isn't
> an ash tray in the kitchen, either. I mostly smoke when I'm in front
> of the computer answering questions like this. Or watching
> television. Half a pack a day at most. I know it's bad for me. I
> don't need a lecture.
>
> Jill

Don't let it bother you Jill. Most non or exsmokers get their nuts off
by preaching to others. There are exceptions who understand but don't
expect it here.

--

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>
> Seven years, two weeks, six days, 21 hours, 16 minutes and 2 seconds.
>
> Cheri
>
>
Sixteen years, 5 months, and 17 days since I quit.

I don't preach, been there and had everybody and their dog
lecturing me like I can't read or didn't know it was bad
for me. There nothing worse than a former smoker zealot.
I had gotten up to 3 packs per day.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:16:42 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 12/18/2016 2:27 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:27:17 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/17/2016 1:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>> On 12/16/2016 11:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/16/2016 7:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I often see people flicking their butts on the way into stores,
>>>>>>> malls
>>>>>>> and restaurants, and I usually fine myself telling them "Don't worry.
>>>>>>> Someone else will pick that up for you".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>>>>>
>>>>> The unfortunate thing is that there are Many smokers out
>>>>> there making you all look bad. They had to ban smoking
>>>>> on the beaches because smokers thought of them as big giant
>>>>> ashtrays.
>>>>>
>>>>> Presumably these are people who love the beach. Go figure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you have the ones who flick it out the car window, or they
>>>>> empty their ashtray onto the pavement.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't picture you doing that, ever. That is what people see,
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>> nancy
>>>>>
>>>> I certainly don't do that! I don't let the car ashtray get so full that
>>>> I feel I need to dump it when I'm driving. When we were driving down
>>>> here in my car I kept a bag in the car and would empty the ashtray into
>>>> it and toss the bag in a garbage can at rest stops.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Why are you still smoking?
>>>
>> Because it's a difficult habit to break. Nicotene is an addictive
>> substance. I don't smoke all that much. FWIW, there is not an ash tray
>> in the bedroom. I have *never* smoked while in bed. There isn't an ash
>> tray in the kitchen, either. I mostly smoke when I'm in front of the
>> computer answering questions like this. Or watching television. Half a
>> pack a day at most. I know it's bad for me. I don't need a lecture.
>>
>> Jill
>
>It took me several tries before it took. I used nicotine tablets for awhile
>afterward, easy to get hooked on those too, but you'll quit when you're
>ready, or not. This is my meter now.
>
>Seven years, two weeks, six days, 21 hours, 16 minutes and 2 seconds.
>
>Cheri
>
7 years, 2 months, 7 days -- cold turkey. Never looked back. Dr.
said I needed a chest X-ray because he thought there was a spot there.
I said to myself that if I get out of this o.k., I'm never smoking
again. I had tried for years and was only marginally successful up
until then. Great incentive.
Janet US

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Seven years, two weeks, six days, 21 hours, 16 minutes and 2 seconds.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> Sixteen years, 5 months, and 17 days since I quit.
>
> I don't preach, been there and had everybody and their dog
> lecturing me like I can't read or didn't know it was bad
> for me. There nothing worse than a former smoker zealot.
> I had gotten up to 3 packs per day.

Got that right! Sheldon is a perfect example of "no tolerance" for others.
Geez, I wonder what he does if he sees someone smoking while driving past
his house, does he chase them on his tractor and try to run them into a
ditch? ;-)

Cheri

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:16:42 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On 12/18/2016 2:27 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:27:17 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/17/2016 1:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/16/2016 11:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/16/2016 7:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I often see people flicking their butts on the way into stores,
>>>>>>>> malls
>>>>>>>> and restaurants, and I usually fine myself telling them "Don't
>>>>>>>> worry.
>>>>>>>> Someone else will pick that up for you".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm so sorry you have to see that. I *never* do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The unfortunate thing is that there are Many smokers out
>>>>>> there making you all look bad. They had to ban smoking
>>>>>> on the beaches because smokers thought of them as big giant
>>>>>> ashtrays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably these are people who love the beach. Go figure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you have the ones who flick it out the car window, or they
>>>>>> empty their ashtray onto the pavement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't picture you doing that, ever. That is what people see,
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nancy
>>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly don't do that! I don't let the car ashtray get so full
>>>>> that
>>>>> I feel I need to dump it when I'm driving. When we were driving down
>>>>> here in my car I kept a bag in the car and would empty the ashtray
>>>>> into
>>>>> it and toss the bag in a garbage can at rest stops.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Why are you still smoking?
>>>>
>>> Because it's a difficult habit to break. Nicotene is an addictive
>>> substance. I don't smoke all that much. FWIW, there is not an ash tray
>>> in the bedroom. I have *never* smoked while in bed. There isn't an ash
>>> tray in the kitchen, either. I mostly smoke when I'm in front of the
>>> computer answering questions like this. Or watching television. Half a
>>> pack a day at most. I know it's bad for me. I don't need a lecture.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>It took me several tries before it took. I used nicotine tablets for
>>awhile
>>afterward, easy to get hooked on those too, but you'll quit when you're
>>ready, or not. This is my meter now.
>>
>>Seven years, two weeks, six days, 21 hours, 16 minutes and 2 seconds.
>>
>>Cheri
>>
> 7 years, 2 months, 7 days -- cold turkey. Never looked back. Dr.
> said I needed a chest X-ray because he thought there was a spot there.
> I said to myself that if I get out of this o.k., I'm never smoking
> again. I had tried for years and was only marginally successful up
> until then. Great incentive.
> Janet US

Unfortunately, it took not being able to breathe for me. Gasping for air is
no fun.

Cheri

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:34:59 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message

>>>
>> 7 years, 2 months, 7 days -- cold turkey. Never looked back. Dr.
>> said I needed a chest X-ray because he thought there was a spot there.
>> I said to myself that if I get out of this o.k., I'm never smoking
>> again. I had tried for years and was only marginally successful up
>> until then. Great incentive.
>> Janet US
>
>Unfortunately, it took not being able to breathe for me. Gasping for air is
>no fun.
>
>Cheri
>
I'm glad you and I made it
Janet US

On 2016-12-18 3:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> Why are you still smoking?
>>
> Because it's a difficult habit to break. Nicotene is an addictive
> substance. I don't smoke all that much.

That's what they want you to think. The tobacco companies want you to
think it so you will keep smoking. Then there are the therapists and
drug companies with therapies and drugs to help you beat the habit. They
want you to think it is so addictive that you can't quit without their
help. Accepting that it is an addiction is just a cop out. When I was
younger just about everyone smoked. Very few of us do now.




FWIW, there is not an ash tray
> in the bedroom. I have *never* smoked while in bed. There isn't an ash
> tray in the kitchen, either. I mostly smoke when I'm in front of the
> computer answering questions like this. Or watching television. Half a
> pack a day at most. I know it's bad for me. I don't need a lecture.
>
My oldest brother smokes about a pack a week. He keeps looking for help
to quit smoking. If I smoked as little as he does I would not be worried
about it. What I can't figure is how he can go 3-4 days without
bothering to smoke and not have the willpower to stop completely. It's
not like the typical smoker who can't go more than a couple hours
without smoking.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:34:59 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>
>>>>
>>> 7 years, 2 months, 7 days -- cold turkey. Never looked back. Dr.
>>> said I needed a chest X-ray because he thought there was a spot there.
>>> I said to myself that if I get out of this o.k., I'm never smoking
>>> again. I had tried for years and was only marginally successful up
>>> until then. Great incentive.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Unfortunately, it took not being able to breathe for me. Gasping for air
>>is
>>no fun.
>>
>>Cheri
>>
> I'm glad you and I made it
> Janet US



High fives!

Cheri

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:49:31 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Seven years, two weeks, six days, 21 hours, 16 minutes and 2 seconds.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
>Sixteen years, 5 months, and 17 days since I quit.
>
>I don't preach, been there and had everybody and their dog
>lecturing me like I can't read or didn't know it was bad
>for me. There nothing worse than a former smoker zealot.
>I had gotten up to 3 packs per day.

Around 13 years for me. I never could see the point of getting really
exact about the timing. I think it was the fall of 2003 when I quit,
but I could be wrong.

Doris

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 10:50:27 PM UTC-6, Doris Night wrote:
>
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:49:31 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
> >>
> >> Seven years, two weeks, six days, 21 hours, 16 minutes and 2 seconds.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >>
> >>
> >Sixteen years, 5 months, and 17 days since I quit.
> >
> Around 13 years for me. I never could see the point of getting really
> exact about the timing. I think it was the fall of 2003 when I quit,
> but I could be wrong.
>
> Doris
>
>
Only reason I remember the exact date is because the summer of
2000 brought MANY changes for me and stopping smoking was one
of the biggest changes.

I quit cold turkey and have had no tobacco products since. But
when I see one of the old black and white movies with Bette
Davis, Lauren Bacall, etc. light up I take that first long, slow
draw with them. Satisfies that imagined need for a cigarette.

:-)

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 4:51:53 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> 7 years, 2 months, 7 days -- cold turkey. Never looked back. Dr.
> said I needed a chest X-ray because he thought there was a spot there.
> I said to myself that if I get out of this o.k., I'm never smoking
> again. I had tried for years and was only marginally successful up
> until then. Great incentive.
> Janet US

I've never smoked, but my mother did. She tried a number of things
to quit over the years, but the doctor prescribing nitroglycerine
did it for her. That must have been more than 20 years ago,
since IIRC she was about the age I am now when she quit.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cheri" wrote in message news
> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Seven years, two weeks, six days, 21 hours, 16 minutes and 2 seconds.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> Sixteen years, 5 months, and 17 days since I quit.
>
> I don't preach, been there and had everybody and their dog
> lecturing me like I can't read or didn't know it was bad
> for me. There nothing worse than a former smoker zealot.
> I had gotten up to 3 packs per day.

Got that right! Sheldon is a perfect example of "no tolerance" for others.
Geez, I wonder what he does if he sees someone smoking while driving past
his house, does he chase them on his tractor and try to run them into a
ditch? ;-)

Cheri

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I just thought I would throw in a wee boast here ... I stopped smoking 43
years ago when I was pregnant with my daughter. I had learned it was bad
for the baby so I stopped ... sounds as though it was easy ... NO!!!!!! I
suppose I had a good incentive to stop so I kept at it, but I would never
want to go through that again!


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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:34:59 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>
>>>>
>>> 7 years, 2 months, 7 days -- cold turkey. Never looked back. Dr.
>>> said I needed a chest X-ray because he thought there was a spot there.
>>> I said to myself that if I get out of this o.k., I'm never smoking
>>> again. I had tried for years and was only marginally successful up
>>> until then. Great incentive.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Unfortunately, it took not being able to breathe for me. Gasping for air
>>is
>>no fun.
>>
>>Cheri
>>
> I'm glad you and I made it
> Janet US



High fives!

Cheri

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)))))))))) When I think what I might have been like now since I became a
chronic asthmatic ...


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> I just thought I would throw in a wee boast here ... I stopped smoking 43
> years ago when I was pregnant with my daughter. I had learned it was bad
> for the baby so I stopped ... sounds as though it was easy ... NO!!!!!! I
> suppose I had a good incentive to stop so I kept at it, but I would never
> want to go through that again!

Good for you!

Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:34:59 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>>
>>>>>
>>>> 7 years, 2 months, 7 days -- cold turkey. Never looked back. Dr.
>>>> said I needed a chest X-ray because he thought there was a spot there.
>>>> I said to myself that if I get out of this o.k., I'm never smoking
>>>> again. I had tried for years and was only marginally successful up
>>>> until then. Great incentive.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, it took not being able to breathe for me. Gasping for air
>>>is
>>>no fun.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>>
>> I'm glad you and I made it
>> Janet US
>
>
>
> High fives!
>
> Cheri
>
> =============
>
> )))))))))) When I think what I might have been like now since I became
> a chronic asthmatic ...

I hear you! Unfortunately it took lung problems for me to stop.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> I just thought I would throw in a wee boast here ... I stopped smoking 43
> years ago when I was pregnant with my daughter. I had learned it was bad
> for the baby so I stopped ... sounds as though it was easy ... NO!!!!!! I
> suppose I had a good incentive to stop so I kept at it, but I would never
> want to go through that again!

Good for you!

Cheri
================

Thanks, Cheri. It was more a case of NEED rather than choice)

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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:34:59 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>>
>>>>>
>>>> 7 years, 2 months, 7 days -- cold turkey. Never looked back. Dr.
>>>> said I needed a chest X-ray because he thought there was a spot there.
>>>> I said to myself that if I get out of this o.k., I'm never smoking
>>>> again. I had tried for years and was only marginally successful up
>>>> until then. Great incentive.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, it took not being able to breathe for me. Gasping for air
>>>is
>>>no fun.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>>
>> I'm glad you and I made it
>> Janet US
>
>
>
> High fives!
>
> Cheri
>
> =============
>
> )))))))))) When I think what I might have been like now since I became
> a chronic asthmatic ...

I hear you! Unfortunately it took lung problems for me to stop.

Cheri

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I hope you were in good time??



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