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On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 18:59:29 +1100, Bruce >
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>In article >, sf says...
>>
>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 13:51:24 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> > When Aldi and Lidl first came to UK, the combination of low price and
>> > minimal service meant they were at first perceived as "low-end market".
>> > Since then their fresh-foods quality and range has improved so much
>> > (prices still low) that now they have captured a large chunk of upmarket
>> > shoppers too.

>>
>> We don't have Aldi here, but they won't get my business if they insist
>> on self checkout. We have Trader Joe's, which is an Aldi subsidiary
>> (Aldi is following their model as far as going organic, non-GMO).
>> TJ's has lots of checkers and they have my business.

>
>I couldn't care less what kind of checkout they have. What a strange
>thing to hold against a place.


I refuse to use the self-serve checkouts too.
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>On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 9:46:25 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 12/18/2016 2:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> > In article >, sf says...
>> >>

>>
>> >> We don't have Aldi here, but they won't get my business if they insist
>> >> on self checkout. We have Trader Joe's, which is an Aldi subsidiary
>> >> (Aldi is following their model as far as going organic, non-GMO).
>> >> TJ's has lots of checkers and they have my business.
>> >
>> > I couldn't care less what kind of checkout they have. What a strange
>> > thing to hold against a place.
>> >

>>
>> Why not? I dislike self checkout and I'd not go for the same reason.
>> Aldi is self packing but has a cashier.
>>
>>

>What's the big deal of bagging your own groceries??? You have
>to unpack them when you get home or is someone at your all's
>houses doing this for you? You have to unbag a hamburger,
>hotdog, sandwich, salad, whatever if and when you get a meal
>to go. Is bagging your own groceries somehow an insult??
>Not having baggers saves them money and it saves you money in
>the cost of their groceries.


Is your version of self serve just the bagging or do you also scan
your own items, pay and then bag them? Australia has the latter and I
won't use them. I'd rather the store a employ cashier.
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In article >, Ed Pawlowski says...
>
> On 12/18/2016 2:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, sf says...
> >>

>
> >> We don't have Aldi here, but they won't get my business if they insist
> >> on self checkout. We have Trader Joe's, which is an Aldi subsidiary
> >> (Aldi is following their model as far as going organic, non-GMO).
> >> TJ's has lots of checkers and they have my business.

> >
> > I couldn't care less what kind of checkout they have. What a strange
> > thing to hold against a place.
> >

>
> Why not? I dislike self checkout and I'd not go for the same reason.
> Aldi is self packing but has a cashier.


Why not? I don't care who puts items on the belt, who scans them, who
bags them and who puts the bags in the trolley. It's all so minor.
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>
> On 2016-12-18 10:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 12/18/2016 2:59 AM, Bruce wrote:

>
> >> I couldn't care less what kind of checkout they have. What a strange
> >> thing to hold against a place.
> >>

> >
> > Why not? I dislike self checkout and I'd not go for the same reason.
> > Aldi is self packing but has a cashier.

>
>
> I won't do self checkout. I prefer some human contact. I pity the people
> who are assigned to talking people into using self checkout and helped
> customers to screw the cashiers out of jobs. They are like Judas goats.


You must be against automation too.
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On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 9:55:33 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 13:51:24 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
> > When Aldi and Lidl first came to UK, the combination of low price and
> > minimal service meant they were at first perceived as "low-end market".
> > Since then their fresh-foods quality and range has improved so much
> > (prices still low) that now they have captured a large chunk of upmarket
> > shoppers too.

>
> We don't have Aldi here, but they won't get my business if they insist
> on self checkout. We have Trader Joe's, which is an Aldi subsidiary
> (Aldi is following their model as far as going organic, non-GMO).
> TJ's has lots of checkers and they have my business.
>
>
> --
> Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.


I'll use self-checkouts because I like doing things for myself rather than have others do it for me. Heck, I wish I could cook my own eggs at restaurants - I'm picky about eggs. OTOH, I wouldn't like doing the job of a butcher.
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On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 11:18:44 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
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> I won't do self checkout. I prefer some human contact. I pity the people
> who are assigned to talking people into using self checkout and helped
> customers to screw the cashiers out of jobs. They are like Judas goats.
>
>

Aldi's never had self checkout nor baggers so nobody is being 'deprived'
of a job. Besides all the fast food joints around here are begging for
people.

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On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 12:56:38 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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> As for Aldi, I've only been there a few times. They have crappy
> injected meats and limited selection of other items. I've never been
> impressed by them.
>
>

Unless you are butchering your own animals all your meats are
injected.

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On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:10:11 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
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> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 09:09:39 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >What's the big deal of bagging your own groceries??? You have
> >to unpack them when you get home or is someone at your all's
> >houses doing this for you? You have to unbag a hamburger,
> >hotdog, sandwich, salad, whatever if and when you get a meal
> >to go. Is bagging your own groceries somehow an insult??
> >Not having baggers saves them money and it saves you money in
> >the cost of their groceries.

>
> Is your version of self serve just the bagging or do you also scan
> your own items, pay and then bag them? Australia has the latter and I
> won't use them. I'd rather the store a employ cashier.
>
>

When I go to Kroger (LARGE chain here in the USA) 90% of the time
I check myself out and bag my purchases myself. I don't mind doing
my own bagging as I can insure 1 gallon of milk, ½ gallon of juice,
all the canned goods are not in one bag while the eggs and a loaf of
bread are in another. I *hate* those overweight bags while another
has nothing more than 2 pounds in it. GRRRRRRRRRRRR

This past Wednesday I was at my Kroger and everyone who was coming
in the door was invited to fill out an employment application. No-
body is without a job at Kroger whether it's a cashier, stocker,
courtesy counter clerk, or in the deli.



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On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:20:21 -0800 (PST), "
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>On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 12:56:38 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> As for Aldi, I've only been there a few times. They have crappy
>> injected meats and limited selection of other items. I've never been
>> impressed by them.
>>
>>

>Unless you are butchering your own animals all your meats are
>injected.


Certainly not true in Australia.
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In article >, Jeßus says...
>
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 18:59:29 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, sf says...
> >>
> >> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 13:51:24 -0000, Janet > wrote:
> >>
> >> > When Aldi and Lidl first came to UK, the combination of low price and
> >> > minimal service meant they were at first perceived as "low-end market".
> >> > Since then their fresh-foods quality and range has improved so much
> >> > (prices still low) that now they have captured a large chunk of upmarket
> >> > shoppers too.
> >>
> >> We don't have Aldi here, but they won't get my business if they insist
> >> on self checkout. We have Trader Joe's, which is an Aldi subsidiary
> >> (Aldi is following their model as far as going organic, non-GMO).
> >> TJ's has lots of checkers and they have my business.

> >
> >I couldn't care less what kind of checkout they have. What a strange
> >thing to hold against a place.

>
> I refuse to use the self-serve checkouts too.


And you don't go to places that have them?
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> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:10:11 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 09:09:39 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >What's the big deal of bagging your own groceries??? You have
>> >to unpack them when you get home or is someone at your all's
>> >houses doing this for you? You have to unbag a hamburger,
>> >hotdog, sandwich, salad, whatever if and when you get a meal
>> >to go. Is bagging your own groceries somehow an insult??
>> >Not having baggers saves them money and it saves you money in
>> >the cost of their groceries.

>>
>> Is your version of self serve just the bagging or do you also scan
>> your own items, pay and then bag them? Australia has the latter and I
>> won't use them. I'd rather the store a employ cashier.
>>
>>

>When I go to Kroger (LARGE chain here in the USA) 90% of the time
>I check myself out and bag my purchases myself. I don't mind doing
>my own bagging as I can insure 1 gallon of milk, ½ gallon of juice,
>all the canned goods are not in one bag while the eggs and a loaf of
>bread are in another. I *hate* those overweight bags while another
>has nothing more than 2 pounds in it. GRRRRRRRRRRRR


That's one big advantage of bagging your own groceries. I don't mind
bagging my own groceries even if there is a cashier. One bulk buying
place I go to has such a system.

>This past Wednesday I was at my Kroger and everyone who was coming
>in the door was invited to fill out an employment application. No-
>body is without a job at Kroger whether it's a cashier, stocker,
>courtesy counter clerk, or in the deli.


That seems strange, I thought there was unemployment in the U.S,
generally speaking? Why are there no takers for jobs?
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>In article >, Jeßus says...
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 18:59:29 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, sf says...
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 13:51:24 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > When Aldi and Lidl first came to UK, the combination of low price and
>> >> > minimal service meant they were at first perceived as "low-end market".
>> >> > Since then their fresh-foods quality and range has improved so much
>> >> > (prices still low) that now they have captured a large chunk of upmarket
>> >> > shoppers too.
>> >>
>> >> We don't have Aldi here, but they won't get my business if they insist
>> >> on self checkout. We have Trader Joe's, which is an Aldi subsidiary
>> >> (Aldi is following their model as far as going organic, non-GMO).
>> >> TJ's has lots of checkers and they have my business.
>> >
>> >I couldn't care less what kind of checkout they have. What a strange
>> >thing to hold against a place.

>>
>> I refuse to use the self-serve checkouts too.

>
>And you don't go to places that have them?


Yes, I go to them. You're familiar with Australian stores, so you
know there's a combination of both systems. I just don't use the self
serve checkouts. Having said that, I've been known to walk out if
there's only one or two cashiers and there's a big queue.
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> Heck, I wish I could cook my own eggs at restaurants - I'm picky about eggs.


An overcooked egg, especially scrambled, is a terrible thing.

Going to sous vide some soft boiled ones for breakfast soon, that
machine is the bomb!

And TNX to you and Ophelia for recommending it.


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On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:25:34 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
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>On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:55:31 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 13:51:24 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> When Aldi and Lidl first came to UK, the combination of low price and
>>> minimal service meant they were at first perceived as "low-end market".
>>> Since then their fresh-foods quality and range has improved so much
>>> (prices still low) that now they have captured a large chunk of upmarket
>>> shoppers too.

>>
>>We don't have Aldi here, but they won't get my business if they insist
>>on self checkout. We have Trader Joe's, which is an Aldi subsidiary
>>(Aldi is following their model as far as going organic, non-GMO).
>>TJ's has lots of checkers and they have my business.

>
>I really prefer self checkout. I can make sure that all the
>crushables are together, cold stuff stays together, canned goods --
>everything just the way I want it for packing and then unpacking in my
>home. I mostly shop at self checkout stores. Actually, I have all my
>Costco stuff bagged in various cloth bags, including those big
>insulated Costco bags before I get to checkout. I do it as I shop. I
>make sure that all the barcodes are facing up and easily accessible
>for the checkers. That way the bags never get too heavy for me.


I do likewise. I prefer doing my own bagging, many baggers have no
clue how to bag, they mix perishables with canned goods, cleaning
products with food, and place heavy items on top of produce.

>I have no rotator cuff in one arm and minimal in the other, so lighter
>weight bags are the way to go for me.
>Janet US


I have no problem carrying groceries but I want items bagged according
to where I store them, very often baggers don't think to bag like
items together.
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In article >, Jeßus says...
>
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 06:33:10 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, Jeßus says...
> >>
> >> I refuse to use the self-serve checkouts too.

> >
> >And you don't go to places that have them?

>
> Yes, I go to them. You're familiar with Australian stores, so you
> know there's a combination of both systems. I just don't use the self
> serve checkouts. Having said that, I've been known to walk out if
> there's only one or two cashiers and there's a big queue.


Wait until ALDI comes to TAS. They don't have self-serve checkout. But
they also don't bag for you.
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:26:57 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
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>On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:25:34 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:55:31 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 13:51:24 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>>> When Aldi and Lidl first came to UK, the combination of low price and
>>>> minimal service meant they were at first perceived as "low-end market".
>>>> Since then their fresh-foods quality and range has improved so much
>>>> (prices still low) that now they have captured a large chunk of upmarket
>>>> shoppers too.
>>>
>>>We don't have Aldi here, but they won't get my business if they insist
>>>on self checkout. We have Trader Joe's, which is an Aldi subsidiary
>>>(Aldi is following their model as far as going organic, non-GMO).
>>>TJ's has lots of checkers and they have my business.

>>
>>I really prefer self checkout. I can make sure that all the
>>crushables are together, cold stuff stays together, canned goods --
>>everything just the way I want it for packing and then unpacking in my
>>home. I mostly shop at self checkout stores. Actually, I have all my
>>Costco stuff bagged in various cloth bags, including those big
>>insulated Costco bags before I get to checkout. I do it as I shop. I
>>make sure that all the barcodes are facing up and easily accessible
>>for the checkers. That way the bags never get too heavy for me. I
>>have no rotator cuff in one arm and minimal in the other, so lighter
>>weight bags are the way to go for me.
>>Janet US

>
>Correction -- I mean self bagging.
>Janet US


I figured that out from your context.
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> On 2016-12-18 10:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 12/18/2016 2:59 AM, Bruce wrote:

>
> > > I couldn't care less what kind of checkout they have. What a
> > > strange thing to hold against a place.
> > >

> >
> > Why not? I dislike self checkout and I'd not go for the same
> > reason. Aldi is self packing but has a cashier.

>
>
> I won't do self checkout. I prefer some human contact. I pity the
> people who are assigned to talking people into using self checkout
> and helped customers to screw the cashiers out of jobs. They are
> like Judas goats.


I don't feel as stongly as you say, but I feel like I removed a job
when I see a self checkout. Instead, I stand in line.

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On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 06:56:36 +1100, Bruce >
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>In article >, Jeßus says...
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 06:33:10 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, Jeßus says...
>> >>
>> >> I refuse to use the self-serve checkouts too.
>> >
>> >And you don't go to places that have them?

>>
>> Yes, I go to them. You're familiar with Australian stores, so you
>> know there's a combination of both systems. I just don't use the self
>> serve checkouts. Having said that, I've been known to walk out if
>> there's only one or two cashiers and there's a big queue.

>
>Wait until ALDI comes to TAS. They don't have self-serve checkout. But
>they also don't bag for you.


That's fine with me.


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> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:10:11 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 09:09:39 -0800 (PST),
> > " > wrote:
> >
> > > What's the big deal of bagging your own groceries??? You have
> > > to unpack them when you get home or is someone at your all's
> > > houses doing this for you? You have to unbag a hamburger,
> > > hotdog, sandwich, salad, whatever if and when you get a meal
> > > to go. Is bagging your own groceries somehow an insult??
> > > Not having baggers saves them money and it saves you money in
> > > the cost of their groceries.

> >
> > Is your version of self serve just the bagging or do you also scan
> > your own items, pay and then bag them? Australia has the latter and
> > I won't use them. I'd rather the store a employ cashier.
> >
> >

> When I go to Kroger (LARGE chain here in the USA) 90% of the time
> I check myself out and bag my purchases myself. I don't mind doing
> my own bagging as I can insure 1 gallon of milk, ½ gallon of juice,
> all the canned goods are not in one bag while the eggs and a loaf of
> bread are in another. I hate those overweight bags while another
> has nothing more than 2 pounds in it. GRRRRRRRRRRRR
>
> This past Wednesday I was at my Kroger and everyone who was coming
> in the door was invited to fill out an employment application. No-
> body is without a job at Kroger whether it's a cashier, stocker,
> courtesy counter clerk, or in the deli.


Wishfull thinking there. Enjoy it about the jobs.

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> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:28:08 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:10:11 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> > >
> >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 09:09:39 -0800 (PST),

> " >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >What's the big deal of bagging your own groceries??? You have
> >> >to unpack them when you get home or is someone at your all's
> >> >houses doing this for you? You have to unbag a hamburger,
> >> >hotdog, sandwich, salad, whatever if and when you get a meal
> >> >to go. Is bagging your own groceries somehow an insult??
> >> >Not having baggers saves them money and it saves you money in
> >> >the cost of their groceries.
> >>
> >> Is your version of self serve just the bagging or do you also scan
> >> your own items, pay and then bag them? Australia has the latter

> and I >> won't use them. I'd rather the store a employ cashier.
> > >
> > >

> > When I go to Kroger (LARGE chain here in the USA) 90% of the time
> > I check myself out and bag my purchases myself. I don't mind doing
> > my own bagging as I can insure 1 gallon of milk, ½ gallon of juice,
> > all the canned goods are not in one bag while the eggs and a loaf of
> > bread are in another. I hate those overweight bags while another
> > has nothing more than 2 pounds in it. GRRRRRRRRRRRR

>
> That's one big advantage of bagging your own groceries. I don't mind
> bagging my own groceries even if there is a cashier. One bulk buying
> place I go to has such a system.
>
> > This past Wednesday I was at my Kroger and everyone who was coming
> > in the door was invited to fill out an employment application. No-
> > body is without a job at Kroger whether it's a cashier, stocker,
> > courtesy counter clerk, or in the deli.

>
> That seems strange, I thought there was unemployment in the U.S,
> generally speaking? Why are there no takers for jobs?


It's wishful thinking on itsjoannotjoann's part. They want to PRETEND
that it's OK to eliminate a checkout line worker and so probably made
up the story on applications at the door. They don't do 'applications
at the door' and havent for a decade.

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> Heck, I wish I could cook my own eggs at restaurants - I'm picky about
> eggs.


An overcooked egg, especially scrambled, is a terrible thing.

Going to sous vide some soft boiled ones for breakfast soon, that
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And TNX to you and Ophelia for recommending it.

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> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 06:33:10 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, Jeßus says...
> >>
> >> I refuse to use the self-serve checkouts too.

> >
> >And you don't go to places that have them?

>
> Yes, I go to them. You're familiar with Australian stores, so you
> know there's a combination of both systems. I just don't use the self
> serve checkouts. Having said that, I've been known to walk out if
> there's only one or two cashiers and there's a big queue.


Wait until ALDI comes to TAS. They don't have self-serve checkout. But
they also don't bag for you.

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On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:34:43 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
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> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:28:08 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
> >>

> >When I go to Kroger (LARGE chain here in the USA) 90% of the time
> >I check myself out and bag my purchases myself. I don't mind doing
> >my own bagging as I can insure 1 gallon of milk, Ë gallon of juice,
> >all the canned goods are not in one bag while the eggs and a loaf of
> >bread are in another. I *hate* those overweight bags while another
> >has nothing more than 2 pounds in it. GRRRRRRRRRRRR

>
> That's one big advantage of bagging your own groceries. I don't mind
> bagging my own groceries even if there is a cashier. One bulk buying
> place I go to has such a system.
>

Yep. I hate struggling with an overpacked bag and the next one feels
like it has nothing more in it than a box Kleenex.
>
> >This past Wednesday I was at my Kroger and everyone who was coming
> >in the door was invited to fill out an employment application. No-
> >body is without a job at Kroger whether it's a cashier, stocker,
> >courtesy counter clerk, or in the deli.

>
> That seems strange, I thought there was unemployment in the U.S,
> generally speaking? Why are there no takers for jobs?
>
>

There's plenty of work, at least there is in my part of the country.
The problem is not all jobs pay a starting salary of $25 an hour which
is what many want but have no training or skills for the high paying
job they think they are due.



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On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:26:00 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
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>
> It's wishful thinking on itsjoannotjoann's part. They want to PRETEND
> that it's OK to eliminate a checkout line worker and so probably made
> up the story on applications at the door. They don't do 'applications
> at the door' and havent for a decade.
>
>

I see the same people working at my Kroger that I have for years.
They do seem to rotate them from cashier to fruit and vegetables
to courtesy counter and stocking.

Wednesday I was extremely surprised when I walked into the vestibule
and the girl invited all who walked into door to fill out an
application. She stated all positions were open and I thought it
a bit strange to be standing at the door asking folks if they
wanted a job. I've been hearing several advertisements on the
radio as well about job openings.

Are they doing this in Memphis or Chattanooga or other states??
I haven't a clue.

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On 12/18/2016 2:10 PM, Je�us wrote:

>
> Is your version of self serve just the bagging or do you also scan
> your own items, pay and then bag them? Australia has the latter and I
> won't use them. I'd rather the store a employ cashier.
>


I agree, but it is not always that simple. I asked the manager of out
local supermarket. He'd like to have more cashiers at times but cannot
find enough qualified people to cover all the hours.
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On 12/18/2016 2:34 PM, Je�us wrote:

>> This past Wednesday I was at my Kroger and everyone who was coming
>> in the door was invited to fill out an employment application. No-
>> body is without a job at Kroger whether it's a cashier, stocker,
>> courtesy counter clerk, or in the deli.

>
> That seems strange, I thought there was unemployment in the U.S,
> generally speaking? Why are there no takers for jobs?
>


They all want to sit at a desk and get paid $30 an hour. Or they have
student loans and cnnot find employment in their chosen career as a
curator of a museum of 4th century Greek sculpture.

Plenty of jobs available in construction and trucking, but you can get
your hands dirty doing that kind of work.
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On 12/18/2016 2:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
> In article >, Ed Pawlowski says...
>>
>> On 12/18/2016 2:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> In article >, sf says...
>>>>

>>
>>>> We don't have Aldi here, but they won't get my business if they insist
>>>> on self checkout. We have Trader Joe's, which is an Aldi subsidiary
>>>> (Aldi is following their model as far as going organic, non-GMO).
>>>> TJ's has lots of checkers and they have my business.
>>>
>>> I couldn't care less what kind of checkout they have. What a strange
>>> thing to hold against a place.
>>>

>>
>> Why not? I dislike self checkout and I'd not go for the same reason.
>> Aldi is self packing but has a cashier.

>
> Why not? I don't care who puts items on the belt, who scans them, who
> bags them and who puts the bags in the trolley. It's all so minor.
>


I don't care either, but I prefer it not to be ME.
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 17:36:51 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 12/18/2016 2:34 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>> This past Wednesday I was at my Kroger and everyone who was coming
>>> in the door was invited to fill out an employment application. No-
>>> body is without a job at Kroger whether it's a cashier, stocker,
>>> courtesy counter clerk, or in the deli.

>>
>> That seems strange, I thought there was unemployment in the U.S,
>> generally speaking? Why are there no takers for jobs?
>>

>
>They all want to sit at a desk and get paid $30 an hour.


I couldn't imagine anything more mind-numbingly boring... but I'd do
it if it meant earning a wage.

> Or they have
>student loans and cnnot find employment in their chosen career as a
>curator of a museum of 4th century Greek sculpture.
>
>Plenty of jobs available in construction and trucking, but you can get
>your hands dirty doing that kind of work.


That problem seems endemic to all western nations. It's like scallops
in Tasmania. They get shucked in Thailand, then shipped back here and
sold as 'fresh scallops'. Can't get people to do the work in Tasmania,
they say. Needless to say, I don't buy them any more and rely on
friends who occasionally give me their excess ones which I shuck
myself.
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>On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:34:43 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:28:08 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >When I go to Kroger (LARGE chain here in the USA) 90% of the time
>> >I check myself out and bag my purchases myself. I don't mind doing
>> >my own bagging as I can insure 1 gallon of milk, ? gallon of juice,
>> >all the canned goods are not in one bag while the eggs and a loaf of
>> >bread are in another. I *hate* those overweight bags while another
>> >has nothing more than 2 pounds in it. GRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>
>> That's one big advantage of bagging your own groceries. I don't mind
>> bagging my own groceries even if there is a cashier. One bulk buying
>> place I go to has such a system.
>>

>Yep. I hate struggling with an overpacked bag and the next one feels
>like it has nothing more in it than a box Kleenex.
>>
>> >This past Wednesday I was at my Kroger and everyone who was coming
>> >in the door was invited to fill out an employment application. No-
>> >body is without a job at Kroger whether it's a cashier, stocker,
>> >courtesy counter clerk, or in the deli.

>>
>> That seems strange, I thought there was unemployment in the U.S,
>> generally speaking? Why are there no takers for jobs?
>>
>>

>There's plenty of work, at least there is in my part of the country.
>The problem is not all jobs pay a starting salary of $25 an hour which
>is what many want but have no training or skills for the high paying
>job they think they are due.


Figures. Same thing happens here, although it's certainly true that
there are very few jobs available in Tasmania.
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 17:33:12 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 12/18/2016 2:10 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>
>> Is your version of self serve just the bagging or do you also scan
>> your own items, pay and then bag them? Australia has the latter and I
>> won't use them. I'd rather the store a employ cashier.
>>

>
>I agree, but it is not always that simple. I asked the manager of out
>local supermarket. He'd like to have more cashiers at times but cannot
>find enough qualified people to cover all the hours.


Well, maybe they should consider training them? Of course they
wouldn't do that though.
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On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 12:36:54 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/18/2016 2:34 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
> >> This past Wednesday I was at my Kroger and everyone who was coming
> >> in the door was invited to fill out an employment application. No-
> >> body is without a job at Kroger whether it's a cashier, stocker,
> >> courtesy counter clerk, or in the deli.

> >
> > That seems strange, I thought there was unemployment in the U.S,
> > generally speaking? Why are there no takers for jobs?
> >

>
> They all want to sit at a desk and get paid $30 an hour. Or they have
> student loans and cnnot find employment in their chosen career as a
> curator of a museum of 4th century Greek sculpture.
>
> Plenty of jobs available in construction and trucking, but you can get
> your hands dirty doing that kind of work.


The problem with big rig drivers is that a lot of them are not ready to drive on our roads. The schools that train them are pretty much scams that pass out licenses for a fee. At least, that's the way the one that my brother-in-law went to was. It's fairly obvious to me that in a few years, we won't be hauling freight across the country using human drivers. This will save a lot of time, money, and lives.

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> Heck, I wish I could cook my own eggs at restaurants - I'm picky about eggs.


I cook over 800 eggs a year for the two of us. I'm very happy to pay
someone to do it for me once in a while. If you ever find yourself in
my town, come on over and you can cook yours and ours the way you like
them.
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On 12/18/2016 2:54 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:


>
> I do likewise. I prefer doing my own bagging, many baggers have no
> clue how to bag, they mix perishables with canned goods, cleaning
> products with food, and place heavy items on top of produce.
>

Our Stop & Shop baggers are well trained. I never see that. We do
about half out shopping at BJ's so I pack the bags and totes the way I
want.

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On 2016-12-18 6:28 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 12:36:54 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> wrote:


>> Plenty of jobs available in construction and trucking, but you can
>> get your hands dirty doing that kind of work.

>
> The problem with big rig drivers is that a lot of them are not ready
> to drive on our roads. The schools that train them are pretty much
> scams that pass out licenses for a fee. At least, that's the way the
> one that my brother-in-law went to was. It's fairly obvious to me
> that in a few years, we won't be hauling freight across the country
> using human drivers. This will save a lot of time, money, and lives.


How much training do you think it takes to drive a truck safely. It has
a lot more to do with the ridiculous schedules they are required to
maintain and the ever increasing loads they have to haul. The used to
have a limit of 40 feet for trailers. It was increased to 48 feet, and
later to 53 feet. That let to a lot more tractor trailers jackknifing in
heavy traffic. There is a short time lag from the time tractor brakes
engage before the trailers to, so the tail wags the dog. Every time we
get a strong wind we see tractor trailers flipping over, and it is most
often a truck with an empty 53 foot trailer.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIlCR4eG8_o
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On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:39:51 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/18/2016 2:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > Heck, I wish I could cook my own eggs at restaurants - I'm picky about eggs.

>
> I cook over 800 eggs a year for the two of us. I'm very happy to pay
> someone to do it for me once in a while. If you ever find yourself in
> my town, come on over and you can cook yours and ours the way you like
> them.


Well, I certainly wouldn't charge you to cook a few eggs. Cooking 800 a year might require a full-time position though. The thought has occurred to me that if we increase our egg consumption, we could save some money on food. I guess I can start by planning on making quiche this week, and maybe a custard pie too!
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