On 12/27/2016 11:29 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Cats can't see colors.
>
> Cat's do indeed see colors only they see colors differently from
> humans.
> http://www.livescience.com/40459-what-do-cats-see.html
>
>> Where would you buy a prism?
>
> Anywhere that sells science supplies. Most hobby shops sell prisms.
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...=2RXX49MXZT87B
>
I have a small water-filled glass prism hanging in the back window.
It's like this:

http://tinyurl.com/jyxjp8v

When the sun is shining through that window it casts rainbows on the
floor. I have it hanging from some very fine fishing twine... I turn
it so it swirls and casts light like a disco ball. LOL

My cat Persia *loved( to chase those rainbows! I don't know what she
could actually *see* in the light spectrum but she loved chasing the
rainbows.

Buffy couldn't care less. She also looked at me like I was nuts when I
tried to interest her in a laser pointer. She can see those things, she
just doesn't care. Give her a golf ball, she's all over that!

Jill

I think only primates, birds and insects see colors.

On 12/27/2016 7:11 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> Cats can't see colors.
>
> But they can see (and chase) a dancing light bouncing around the room
>
>> Where would you buy a prism?
>
> When I started buying them in the 1970's, I could find them in junk
> shops for pennies; as the surviving parts bits of old crystal
> chandeliers that had broeken and been taken apart.
>
> New prisms are available from Swarovski Crystal. I don't think they
> match the quality and cut facets of older full-lead handcut crystal.
>
> http://starry-eyed.com/prisms/gallery/newSwarovski.html
>
>
> Janet UK
>

I like the idea of reusing the chandelier crystals. Yes, the old lead
crystal really would bring a lot of brilliance. I'll bet you can still
find things like that at second-hand shops if you think to look for them.

I have one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/jyxjp8v

It's filled with water. I have no idea if my cat Persia could *see* the
rainbows the way we can see them. But she sure loved chasing them
around on the floor!

Jill

On 12/27/2016 9:07 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/27/2016 7:11 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> Cats can't see colors.
>>
>> But they can see (and chase) a dancing light bouncing around the room
>>
>>> Where would you buy a prism?
>>
>> When I started buying them in the 1970's, I could find them in junk
>> shops for pennies; as the surviving parts bits of old crystal
>> chandeliers that had broeken and been taken apart.
>>
>> New prisms are available from Swarovski Crystal. I don't think they
>> match the quality and cut facets of older full-lead handcut crystal.
>>
>> http://starry-eyed.com/prisms/gallery/newSwarovski.html
>>
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>
> I like the idea of reusing the chandelier crystals. Yes, the old lead
> crystal really would bring a lot of brilliance. I'll bet you can still
> find things like that at second-hand shops if you think to look for
> them.
>
> I have one of these:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/jyxjp8v
>
> It's filled with water. I have no idea if my cat Persia could *see* the
> rainbows the way we can see them. But she sure loved chasing them
> around on the floor!
>
> Jill

try a laser pointer.

On 12/27/2016 12:07 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> It's filled with water. I have no idea if my cat Persia could *see* the
> rainbows the way we can see them. But she sure loved chasing them
> around on the floor!

If you're wearing a watch, or are holding something reflective and
the sun hits it, the cat will definitely notice the reflected light
bouncing around, I can attest.

mamcu

On 12/27/2016 12:50 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 12/27/2016 12:07 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> It's filled with water. I have no idea if my cat Persia could *see* the
>> rainbows the way we can see them. But she sure loved chasing them
>> around on the floor!
>
> If you're wearing a watch, or are holding something reflective and
> the sun hits it, the cat will definitely notice the reflected light
> bouncing around, I can attest.
>
> mamcu
>
Buffy doesn't seem to care one way or the other. Persia was fascinated
by the reflections danding around on the floor.

I like stained glass window ornaments, too. Sadly, I don't have any of
those anymore. They got lost somewhere during a move.

Jill

On 12/27/2016 7:11 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> Cats can't see colors.
>
> But they can see (and chase) a dancing light bouncing around the room
>
>> Where would you buy a prism?
>
> When I started buying them in the 1970's, I could find them in junk
> shops for pennies; as the surviving parts bits of old crystal
> chandeliers that had broeken and been taken apart.
>
> New prisms are available from Swarovski Crystal. I don't think they
> match the quality and cut facets of older full-lead handcut crystal.
>
> http://starry-eyed.com/prisms/gallery/newSwarovski.html
>
>
> Janet UK
>

This is a triple strand crystal necklace that belonged to my mom. Poor
lighting; it's a cloudy day here today.

https://s27.postimg.org/hk2rv8ej7/crystals.jpg

The crystals really do sparkle! I also have a double strand crystal
necklace, every bit as pretty. I'm wearing it now.

I know if I hung them in the window and the sun shined in they'd
practically blind me. I'll just keep them as jewelry.

Jill

On 2016-12-27 11:55 AM, wrote:
> I think only primates, birds and insects see colors.
>

Apparently there are studies that suggest that horses and similar
animals have some ability to detect greens and yellows. I got a kick of
out of some people at our local dog park took it upon themselves to
paint some metal pipes with a florescent green yellow paint. I
wondered if they realized that it is not likely to be any more visible
that the old colour, since dogs can't really distinguish colour the wau
we can.

coltwvu wrote:
>
>I think only primates, birds and insects see colors.

What kind of insect are you, a roach? Fish see colors too. Animals
that are atracted to colorful displays for reproduction see colors

On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 4:17:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> I do believe I've seen that in one or two houses - but only many years ago. Most people can't afford that much space in their homes, after all. (As mentioned below, one can use wall space to show off china.)
>
> And I do think that there are typically plenty of clues as to where guests ARE expected to eat, so I don't quite get why they're sitting down at a table with no food nearby.
>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.024a3b247200
>
>
>
> Q: Dear Miss Manners: I have a shared living room/dining space, and a separate breakfast table off my kitchen. However, my formal dining table is always set, but rarely used.
>
> I was always taught to never seat yourselves at a formally set table if the meal is not being served there. Every Christmas, I elaborately decorate this table with fancy china, glassware and fragile decorations, only to have guests pull out a chair and put down their libations, keys, etc.
>
> Is it proper for guests to sit there?
>
>
> A: Are you under the impression that it is proper to set your table and then sneer at your guests for not realizing that you dont consider them important enough to sit there? What on earth is this display supposed to be for?
>
> Now why they feel it necessary to put their keys on the table is another question. Miss Manners supposes that your inhospitable attitude is sufficiently apparent that they want to be able to make a quick getaway. Merry Christmas.
>
>
>
> Some comments:
>
>
> cococo
> 12/18/2016 7:42 AM EST
> I never heard of keeping your dining room table set all the time.
>
>
> Mr.Belvedere
> 12/18/2016 3:51 PM EST
> Miss Manners mentioned this a few years ago. Apparently there's a subset of trashy bourgeoisie into it. She said if you were at someone's house and saw this, you should say, "Oh, I see you're expecting company, so I'll leave you to it."
>
> Apparently there are still some people doing this still thing, and it was annoying MM enough to mention it, and its silliness, once again.
>
>
> buffyj63
> 12/18/2016 7:47 AM EST
> I've seen it done; some people like to display items instead of keeping them stored away. One of my previous bosses had a collection of glass she kept on the dining room table all the time; they ate their regular meals in the breakfast room.
>
> Rhoanna
> 12/18/2016 10:27 AM EST
> Aren't china cabinets for displaying your dishes (or at least some of them)? It also keeps them protected when not in use, unlike a table setting.
>
>
>
> (end)
>
>
>
> Lenona.




Since owls have super good night vision I doubt they can see colors.

On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 4:17:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> I do believe I've seen that in one or two houses - but only many years ago. Most people can't afford that much space in their homes, after all. (As mentioned below, one can use wall space to show off china.)
>
> And I do think that there are typically plenty of clues as to where guests ARE expected to eat, so I don't quite get why they're sitting down at a table with no food nearby.
>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.024a3b247200
>
>
>
> Q: Dear Miss Manners: I have a shared living room/dining space, and a separate breakfast table off my kitchen. However, my formal dining table is always set, but rarely used.
>
> I was always taught to never seat yourselves at a formally set table if the meal is not being served there. Every Christmas, I elaborately decorate this table with fancy china, glassware and fragile decorations, only to have guests pull out a chair and put down their libations, keys, etc.
>
> Is it proper for guests to sit there?
>
>
> A: Are you under the impression that it is proper to set your table and then sneer at your guests for not realizing that you dont consider them important enough to sit there? What on earth is this display supposed to be for?
>
> Now why they feel it necessary to put their keys on the table is another question. Miss Manners supposes that your inhospitable attitude is sufficiently apparent that they want to be able to make a quick getaway. Merry Christmas.
>
>
>
> Some comments:
>
>
> cococo
> 12/18/2016 7:42 AM EST
> I never heard of keeping your dining room table set all the time.
>
>
> Mr.Belvedere
> 12/18/2016 3:51 PM EST
> Miss Manners mentioned this a few years ago. Apparently there's a subset of trashy bourgeoisie into it. She said if you were at someone's house and saw this, you should say, "Oh, I see you're expecting company, so I'll leave you to it."
>
> Apparently there are still some people doing this still thing, and it was annoying MM enough to mention it, and its silliness, once again.
>
>
> buffyj63
> 12/18/2016 7:47 AM EST
> I've seen it done; some people like to display items instead of keeping them stored away. One of my previous bosses had a collection of glass she kept on the dining room table all the time; they ate their regular meals in the breakfast room.
>
> Rhoanna
> 12/18/2016 10:27 AM EST
> Aren't china cabinets for displaying your dishes (or at least some of them)? It also keeps them protected when not in use, unlike a table setting.
>
>
>
> (end)
>
>
>
> Lenona.



A small % ow women have what's called super color vision, most of them likely think others see colors the same way they do.

On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:49:46 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2016-12-27 11:55 AM, wrote:
> > I think only primates, birds and insects see colors.
> >
>
> Apparently there are studies that suggest that horses and similar
> animals have some ability to detect greens and yellows. I got a kick of
> out of some people at our local dog park took it upon themselves to
> paint some metal pipes with a florescent green yellow paint. I
> wondered if they realized that it is not likely to be any more visible
> that the old colour, since dogs can't really distinguish colour the wau
> we can.

Wouldn't the florescent paint be for their owners? The only use dogs
would have for a pipe is as an object to pee on.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 2016-12-27 5:10 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:49:46 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-12-27 11:55 AM, wrote:
>>> I think only primates, birds and insects see colors.
>>>
>>
>> Apparently there are studies that suggest that horses and similar
>> animals have some ability to detect greens and yellows. I got a kick of
>> out of some people at our local dog park took it upon themselves to
>> paint some metal pipes with a florescent green yellow paint. I
>> wondered if they realized that it is not likely to be any more visible
>> that the old colour, since dogs can't really distinguish colour the wau
>> we can.
>
> Wouldn't the florescent paint be for their owners? The only use dogs
> would have for a pipe is as an object to pee on.
>

The owners were concerned that their very active dogs would run into the
pipes and get hurt. They aren't the sort of people I would bother
arguing with. If they want to think that their dogs would not get hurt
running into a pole because it has been spray painted with a colour that
dogs don't see I don't see much point in arguing with them. Dogs run
into things because they are distracted so the colour is irrelevant.

On 2016-12-27 4:20 PM, wrote:

>
> A small % ow women have what's called super color vision, most of
> them likely think others see colors the same way they do.
>

Some critters are able to perceive colours in wavelengths far beyond
what humans can. We see a range of colours from red through orange,
yellow, green, blue and violet, but they perceive colours with higher
and lower wavelengths. We have no idea how they appear to those who see
them.

On 2016-12-27 4:16 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 4:17:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> Since owls have super good night vision I doubt they can see colors.
>


How well do owls see?


" Adam Marton was speeding down a dark Saskatchewan highway when a
massive feathered creature swept into the glow of his headlights and
made a sickening thud."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ives-1.3912814

They could make humans with very good night vision very soon but I doubt they'd have color vision too.

On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:37:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:

>They could make humans with very good night vision very soon but I doubt they'd have color vision too.

Maybe they can inject the eye gene of an eagle in a human embryo. Can
you imagine that baby staring at you?

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:

> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> Now we still live in a small house, and our living is done in
> >> the living room.
> >
> > Hence the name. A living room was meant to be lived in. Now we have
> > dens, family rooms, great rooms, etc.
> >
> You live in an apartment, Gary.

I was referring to houses in general these days, not my apt.
Most have dens or family rooms and people tend to do every
day living in them. Latest is the great rooms which have been
very popular with new building. Many people have remodeled,
taken out walls and turned old living room, dining room,
and kitchen into one giant great room. They are nice.

> I've seen a lot of really nice
> apartments but most of the ones I've seen don't have a separate living
> room *and* a den.

Good that you said, "most of the ones I've seen."
There are at least 6 apartment layouts in my neighborhood
of 400 apartments.

- one bedroom
- one bedroom with den (I like those but there are only a few)
- two bedroom
- two bedroom with family room (this is what I have)
- two bedroom with 2 baths and small family room
- three bedroom with family room (the 3rd bedroom is a joke)

I agree with you though. I've painted many apartments and
most of them are small and closed up feeling. Not mine.
My living room, dining room, family room and kitchen
are *almost* like a great room. Very open and spacious.

:-D

If a hawk could read I think they could read a newspaper from 100 yrd away.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> This is a triple strand crystal necklace that belonged to my mom. Poor
> lighting; it's a cloudy day here today.
>
> https://s27.postimg.org/hk2rv8ej7/crystals.jpg
>
> The crystals really do sparkle! I also have a double strand crystal
> necklace, every bit as pretty. I'm wearing it now.
>
> I know if I hung them in the window and the sun shined in they'd
> practically blind me. I'll just keep them as jewelry.

Welcome to old age, Jill.

On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:17:26 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> I agree with you though. I've painted many apartments and
> most of them are small and closed up feeling. Not mine.
> My living room, dining room, family room and kitchen
> are *almost* like a great room. Very open and spacious.

I have never liked the dining room, living room combination and it's
pretty obvious that no one cooks when they have great rooms. Who
wants cooking smells all over the house? I have an excellent exhaust,
but it wouldn't move all that air.

Also, when I entertain, either we stay at the table for hours (my
dining rook table chairs are actually living room "occasional" chairs
with arms - so everyone is comfortable... or I want to leave the
dining room and not look the dining aftermath. It doesn't matter if
the table is cleared, it still needs to be cleaned.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:57:52 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:17:26 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> I agree with you though. I've painted many apartments and
>> most of them are small and closed up feeling. Not mine.
>> My living room, dining room, family room and kitchen
>> are *almost* like a great room. Very open and spacious.
>
>I have never liked the dining room, living room combination and it's
>pretty obvious that no one cooks when they have great rooms. Who
>wants cooking smells all over the house? I have an excellent exhaust,
>but it wouldn't move all that air.
>
>Also, when I entertain, either we stay at the table for hours (my
>dining rook table chairs are actually living room "occasional" chairs
>with arms - so everyone is comfortable... or I want to leave the
>dining room and not look the dining aftermath. It doesn't matter if
>the table is cleared, it still needs to be cleaned.

I don't want my entire house smelling of cooking. I also don't like
an audiance when I cook. I have a good exhaust fan too but it's not
perfect, so I close all the bedroom doors and I have a French door for
my living room and I keep that closed too. Originally I installed the
French door to keep the cats out of the living room but as an
unexpected benefit it keeps cooking smells out too.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...

> I was referring to houses in general these days, not my apt.
> Most have dens or family rooms and people tend to do every
> day living in them. Latest is the great rooms which have been
> very popular with new building. Many people have remodeled,
> taken out walls and turned old living room, dining room,
> and kitchen into one giant great room. They are nice.

My SIL's house burned down a couple of years ago, and when they built the
new one it is mostly open with one giant great room, kitchen, etc. Of course
it's all new, with state of the art appliances, furniture etc. and it is
just beautiful. We were out there for dinner on Tuesday, and it is so handy
to do the cooking, serving, and clean up while still being in the thick of
everything that's going on with the other guests. I live in a small home
with small rooms, but if I ever had the choice (though not with my house
burning down, been there done that) the open plan would be it.

Cheri

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
> > I was referring to houses in general these days, not my apt.
> > Most have dens or family rooms and people tend to do every
> > day living in them. Latest is the great rooms which have been
> > very popular with new building. Many people have remodeled,
> > taken out walls and turned old living room, dining room,
> > and kitchen into one giant great room. They are nice.
>
> My SIL's house burned down a couple of years ago, and when they built the
> new one it is mostly open with one giant great room, kitchen, etc. Of course
> it's all new, with state of the art appliances, furniture etc. and it is
> just beautiful. We were out there for dinner on Tuesday, and it is so handy
> to do the cooking, serving, and clean up while still being in the thick of
> everything that's going on with the other guests. I live in a small home
> with small rooms, but if I ever had the choice (though not with my house
> burning down, been there done that) the open plan would be it.

As I said, my place is not quite a great room but very close
and unlike sf, I really love it. I love the open space it provides.
So many old houses and apartments have closed-in, and very
separate rooms. I like the open spaces combined with many windows
and east&west windows where I can flush out all the stale air
most days. Lots of light and plenty of fresh air.

Years ago, I took down one wall in my family room to give it more light.
My kitchen is not really included. It has a separating wall but it is
a walkthrough with open doorways to the dining room and the
family room....so it's still somewhat open.

If sf and sheldon don't want cooking smells in the rest of
their houses, might I suggest they cook better food and the
smell won't bother them. ;-D

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:16:30 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>>
>> > I was referring to houses in general these days, not my apt.
>> > Most have dens or family rooms and people tend to do every
>> > day living in them. Latest is the great rooms which have been
>> > very popular with new building. Many people have remodeled,
>> > taken out walls and turned old living room, dining room,
>> > and kitchen into one giant great room. They are nice.
>>
>> My SIL's house burned down a couple of years ago, and when they built the
>> new one it is mostly open with one giant great room, kitchen, etc. Of course
>> it's all new, with state of the art appliances, furniture etc. and it is
>> just beautiful. We were out there for dinner on Tuesday, and it is so handy
>> to do the cooking, serving, and clean up while still being in the thick of
>> everything that's going on with the other guests. I live in a small home
>> with small rooms, but if I ever had the choice (though not with my house
>> burning down, been there done that) the open plan would be it.
>
>As I said, my place is not quite a great room but very close
>and unlike sf, I really love it. I love the open space it provides.
>So many old houses and apartments have closed-in, and very
>separate rooms. I like the open spaces combined with many windows
>and east&west windows where I can flush out all the stale air
>most days. Lots of light and plenty of fresh air.
>
>Years ago, I took down one wall in my family room to give it more light.
>My kitchen is not really included. It has a separating wall but it is
>a walkthrough with open doorways to the dining room and the
>family room....so it's still somewhat open.
>
>If sf and sheldon don't want cooking smells in the rest of
>their houses, might I suggest they cook better food and the
>smell won't bother them. ;-D

Lol my friends and I are having lobsters tomorrow night but my
wonderful SIL is picking them up from the dock, cooking on his back
deck and delivering them. I will give him a mincemeat pie in return.
I hate cooking lobsters indoors, it's fine before you eat them but not
24 hours later

wrote:
>
> Lol my friends and I are having lobsters tomorrow night but my
> wonderful SIL is picking them up from the dock, cooking on his back
> deck and delivering them. I will give him a mincemeat pie in return.
> I hate cooking lobsters indoors, it's fine before you eat them but not
> 24 hours later

Can I come too? :-D

Lobster is pretty expensive here these days so I rarely have it.
I would gladly deal with the "smell" just for cooking it
indoors.

Seriously though, I've never been bothered by "next day smells"
from anything that I've cooked.

Even though some here treat me like I can't cook, it seems
like I do a better job than they do. lol

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:16:30 -0500, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> Lol my friends and I are having lobsters tomorrow night but my
>> wonderful SIL is picking them up from the dock, cooking on his back
>> deck and delivering them. I will give him a mincemeat pie in return.
>> I hate cooking lobsters indoors, it's fine before you eat them but not
>> 24 hours later
>
>Can I come too? :-D
>
>Lobster is pretty expensive here these days so I rarely have it.
>I would gladly deal with the "smell" just for cooking it
>indoors.
>
>Seriously though, I've never been bothered by "next day smells"
>from anything that I've cooked.
>
>Even though some here treat me like I can't cook, it seems
>like I do a better job than they do. lol

You're more than welcome! I think its about $9-10 per lb in the store
but we know this fisherman so we get a price that gives him direct
profit right there and cuts out the expensive middle man/store. Apart
from that, I once bought it off a truck and although they were indeed
great, very fresh, they came from an entirely different part of the
coastline and we felt the flavour was not a good as Shad Bay flavour.
I am sure those who were used to those love it, but we love our Shad
Bay lobbies.

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 11:17:44 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
> >
> > Lol my friends and I are having lobsters tomorrow night but my
> > wonderful SIL is picking them up from the dock, cooking on his back
> > deck and delivering them. I will give him a mincemeat pie in return.
> > I hate cooking lobsters indoors, it's fine before you eat them but not
> > 24 hours later
>
> Can I come too? :-D
>
> Lobster is pretty expensive here these days so I rarely have it.
> I would gladly deal with the "smell" just for cooking it
> indoors.
>
> Seriously though, I've never been bothered by "next day smells"
> from anything that I've cooked.

I've got weird ventilation in my house. Even when I use the
hood on my stove, the smells seem to go right to the bedrooms.
Day-old curry can be a tiresome odor.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2016-12-30 11:31 AM, wrote:

>> Lobster is pretty expensive here these days so I rarely have it.
>> I would gladly deal with the "smell" just for cooking it
>> indoors.
>>
>> Seriously though, I've never been bothered by "next day smells"
>>from anything that I've cooked.
>>
>> Even though some here treat me like I can't cook, it seems
>> like I do a better job than they do. lol
>
> You're more than welcome! I think its about $9-10 per lb in the store
> but we know this fisherman so we get a price that gives him direct
> profit right there and cuts out the expensive middle man/store.

I think the last time I saw it here it was $11/lb. That's not bad
because 15-20 years ago it was more like $18. Everything else has gone
up a lot in price, but lobster, shrimp and salmon are cheaper.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > I was referring to houses in general these days, not my apt.
>> > Most have dens or family rooms and people tend to do every
>> > day living in them. Latest is the great rooms which have been
>> > very popular with new building. Many people have remodeled,
>> > taken out walls and turned old living room, dining room,
>> > and kitchen into one giant great room. They are nice.
>>
>> My SIL's house burned down a couple of years ago, and when they built the
>> new one it is mostly open with one giant great room, kitchen, etc. Of
>> course
>> it's all new, with state of the art appliances, furniture etc. and it is
>> just beautiful. We were out there for dinner on Tuesday, and it is so
>> handy
>> to do the cooking, serving, and clean up while still being in the thick
>> of
>> everything that's going on with the other guests. I live in a small home
>> with small rooms, but if I ever had the choice (though not with my house
>> burning down, been there done that) the open plan would be it.
>
> As I said, my place is not quite a great room but very close
> and unlike sf, I really love it. I love the open space it provides.
> So many old houses and apartments have closed-in, and very
> separate rooms. I like the open spaces combined with many windows
> and east&west windows where I can flush out all the stale air
> most days. Lots of light and plenty of fresh air.
>
> Years ago, I took down one wall in my family room to give it more light.
> My kitchen is not really included. It has a separating wall but it is
> a walkthrough with open doorways to the dining room and the
> family room....so it's still somewhat open.
>
> If sf and sheldon don't want cooking smells in the rest of
> their houses, might I suggest they cook better food and the
> smell won't bother them. ;-D

LOL, my SIL made wonderful pot roast, potatoes, carrots, homemade bread etc.
The smells were wonderful!

Cheri

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:16:30 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> If sf and sheldon don't want cooking smells in the rest of
> their houses, might I suggest they cook better food and the
> smell won't bother them. ;-D

It's obvious that you don't entertain.


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On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:43:30 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> LOL, my SIL made wonderful pot roast, potatoes, carrots, homemade bread etc.
> The smells were wonderful!

I didn't say anything about bad smells. I simply don't want cooking
smells permeating the house... which is something Gary can't
understand because he lives alone and never has anyone over.


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On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 12:28:52 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:16:30 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> > If sf and sheldon don't want cooking smells in the rest of
> > their houses, might I suggest they cook better food and the
> > smell won't bother them. ;-D
>
> It's obvious that you don't entertain.

It's not a party unless everybody is in the kitchen, even if
they're just passing through to get to the beer.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 12:28:52 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:16:30 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > > If sf and sheldon don't want cooking smells in the rest of
> > > their houses, might I suggest they cook better food and the
> > > smell won't bother them. ;-D
> >
> > It's obvious that you don't entertain.
>
> It's not a party unless everybody is in the kitchen, even if
> they're just passing through to get to the beer.

Hence, the popularity of the "great room" concept.

She likes the old-school separate rooms with closed doors.
Nothing wrong with that but many like it all open now.
I love the openness of my place. Big open spaces with
lots of windows and light. It's a happy place.
It's 'home' for me and my daughter that grew up here.

I also like to open ALL my windows every few days just
to bring in fresh air. It's a healthy thing to do.
Sheldon keeps his house closed up.
SF probably can't open as she lives in a big city.
In her case, the outside air is probably worse
than the inside air.

I grew up in the Washington DC area and there, opening
windows was not the best thing to do usually.

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 12:28:52 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:16:30 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> > If sf and sheldon don't want cooking smells in the rest of
> > their houses, might I suggest they cook better food and the
> > smell won't bother them. ;-D
>
> It's obvious that you don't entertain.

It's not a party unless everybody is in the kitchen, even if
they're just passing through to get to the beer.

Cindy Hamilton

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Owls being roadkill at night are likely blinded by the headlights.....just like
you can't see well in the dark for a while after being in a lighted room. No?


N.

On 2016-12-31 8:51 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Owls being roadkill at night are likely blinded by the headlights.....just like
> you can't see well in the dark for a while after being in a lighted room. No?
>

I didn't know that they were nocturnal roadkill. I saw one get creamed
during daylight hours. He swooped across the road in front of a car
ahead of me. Bad timing I guess.

....maybe the sun was in its eyes....I didn't know they flew around in the daytime. I
thought they were night hunters. You can tell I don't know much about them. Bald
eagles are my bird of choice. ;-))

N.

On 12/31/2016 10:12 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> ...maybe the sun was in its eyes....I didn't know they flew around in the daytime. I
> thought they were night hunters. You can tell I don't know much about them. Bald
> eagles are my bird of choice. ;-))
>
> N.
>
It depends on the type of owl. They are mostly nocturnal. However,
there are a few species of owls that go hunting during the daytime. It
depends on when their selected prey might be running around. They'll
stir themselves especially if they have chicks to feed and they spot a
squirrel or some field mice. Or, around here, marsh rats. They're
somewhat like hawks in that regard.

I remember looking out the back window and saying to my mom, OMG,
There's a hawk sitting right there! It had landed right behind the
house, outside the window. I guess it was having a rest. In the middle
of the day. When it took flight the wingspan was about 3 feet across.
All we could say was "Wow".

Oh, and there are bald eagles nesting on Dataw.

Happy New Year!

Jill

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:16:30 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> > If sf and sheldon don't want cooking smells in the rest of
> > their houses, might I suggest they cook better food and the
> > smell won't bother them. ;-D
>
> It's obvious that you don't entertain.

I know we never do on New Years Eve. We might during the day though.
Ours however are simple affairs for the most part. No one dresses up
for example and it's more like having a few buddies over (Thanksgiving
and Chrismas eve are exceptions and mostly Thanksgiving which still
isn't 'black tie' but the ladies may pull out that nice dress they
never get to wear and the guys might add a nice sports jacket over the
blue jeans and a simple sweater).

New Years and 4th of July are for hiding from fireworks here. Don has
PTSD from Vietnam days.

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