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There is a new Thai restaurant in our town and we tried it out a couple
weeks ago and took friends there a couple nights ago. The food is good
but communication can be difficult. I get the impression that the speak
a very limited about of English and that they understand almost none.
That is not too much of a problem as long as you have the time and
patience to make yourself understood and understand.

The first time we went I ordered a beer and my wife asked for a glass of
Gewurztraminer. They only have two types of beer and four types of
wine, so there is not too much to confuse, but they managed. The girl
took our order, the guy came to check, and then an older woman came to
confirm. Food orders worked out a little better.

When we met our friend and her husband they told us about a strange
thing that had happened to them on a previous visit. She ordered a
vegetable curry and asked for chicken. I saw the dish on the menu and
underneath that item it said add chicken $1 add beef $2 add shrimp
$2. My experience in Thai restaurants is that they typically have the
option to substitute or add shrimp, chicken, pork or beef for a little
more money. Not a problem.... you would think.

In this case, there was a problem. She ordered vegetable curry.. with
chicken..... but no vegetables. On that occasion she tried to find out
what happened to her vegetables and was told that if you order it with
chicken or the other meats you don't get vegetables. She did not pursue
it because there was such a language barrier.

The other night she tried to sort it out with the waitress before she
ordered, and this waitress spoke a little more English than the other.
My friend asked her about it and the waitress confirmed that if you ask
for chicken you don't get the vegetables. Friend tried to understand why
and said that she would like to get the vegetable curry but wanted the
vegetables and to have the chicken added. Apparently they don't do that
with the vegetable curry. They have a number of other curry dishes with
vegetables and a choice of meat... with different added amounts. She
ended up getting pumpkin curry with chicken.

We were all at a lose as to understanding why you could not get chicken
added to a vegetable curry and still have the vegetables. Meanwhile the
waitress seemed to have a hard time understanding why it would be a
problem not to have vegetables in a vegetable curry with chicken.



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On 2016-12-22, Dave Smith > wrote:
> but communication can be difficult. I get the impression that the speak
> a very limited about of English and that they understand almost none.


Then they should get the heck outta the resto business!

I knew a Japanese place like that. They feigned language ignorance
fer decades. Yet, they knew how to give customers a ration when they
felt like it. I never went again and told my friends not to patronize
the obnoxious jerks.

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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 13:27:46 -0500, Dave Smith
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>There is a new Thai restaurant in our town and we tried it out a couple
>weeks ago and took friends there a couple nights ago. The food is good
>but communication can be difficult. I get the impression that the speak
>a very limited about of English and that they understand almost none.
>That is not too much of a problem as long as you have the time and
>patience to make yourself understood and understand.
>
>The first time we went I ordered a beer and my wife asked for a glass of
>Gewurztraminer. They only have two types of beer and four types of
>wine, so there is not too much to confuse, but they managed. The girl
>took our order, the guy came to check, and then an older woman came to
>confirm. Food orders worked out a little better.
>
>When we met our friend and her husband they told us about a strange
>thing that had happened to them on a previous visit. She ordered a
>vegetable curry and asked for chicken. I saw the dish on the menu and
>underneath that item it said add chicken $1 add beef $2 add shrimp
>$2. My experience in Thai restaurants is that they typically have the
>option to substitute or add shrimp, chicken, pork or beef for a little
>more money. Not a problem.... you would think.
>
>In this case, there was a problem. She ordered vegetable curry.. with
>chicken..... but no vegetables. On that occasion she tried to find out
>what happened to her vegetables and was told that if you order it with
>chicken or the other meats you don't get vegetables. She did not pursue
>it because there was such a language barrier.
>
>The other night she tried to sort it out with the waitress before she
>ordered, and this waitress spoke a little more English than the other.
>My friend asked her about it and the waitress confirmed that if you ask
>for chicken you don't get the vegetables. Friend tried to understand why
>and said that she would like to get the vegetable curry but wanted the
>vegetables and to have the chicken added. Apparently they don't do that
>with the vegetable curry. They have a number of other curry dishes with
>vegetables and a choice of meat... with different added amounts. She
>ended up getting pumpkin curry with chicken.
>
>We were all at a lose as to understanding why you could not get chicken
>added to a vegetable curry and still have the vegetables. Meanwhile the
>waitress seemed to have a hard time understanding why it would be a
>problem not to have vegetables in a vegetable curry with chicken.


Based on your comments, it seems communication (or lack of) wasn't
really the issue.
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On 2016-12-22 1:53 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 13:27:46 -0500, Dave Smith


>> We were all at a lose as to understanding why you could not get chicken
>> added to a vegetable curry and still have the vegetables. Meanwhile the
>> waitress seemed to have a hard time understanding why it would be a
>> problem not to have vegetables in a vegetable curry with chicken.

>
> Based on your comments, it seems communication (or lack of) wasn't
> really the issue.


Yeah. The waitress we had that night apparently had only slightly better
English language skills than the first one. My friend was not
questioning about the concept of having the option to have the dish with
chicken, pork, beef or shrimp at additional cost, but that they took out
the vegetables that were to be supplemented with the chicken. I have
eaten there twice and upgraded to chicken and still had vegetables.
For some reason, it seems that the vegetable curry is the only one that
comes without vegetables when you opt to have meat added to it.

We did not understand why, when you opt to have chicken added to
vegetable curry, they would not have vegetables. The waitress seemed
incapable of understanding why that would be a problem. My friend had
tried to order the vegetable curry because it had been so good, but with
chicken as well, even if she had to pay even more. She could not be
accommodated on that. She ended up having pumpkin curry with chicken
because it still came with the pumpkin and other vegetables.

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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 15:28:15 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2016-12-22 1:53 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 13:27:46 -0500, Dave Smith

>
>>> We were all at a lose as to understanding why you could not get chicken
>>> added to a vegetable curry and still have the vegetables. Meanwhile the
>>> waitress seemed to have a hard time understanding why it would be a
>>> problem not to have vegetables in a vegetable curry with chicken.

>>
>> Based on your comments, it seems communication (or lack of) wasn't
>> really the issue.

>
>Yeah. The waitress we had that night apparently had only slightly better
>English language skills than the first one. My friend was not
>questioning about the concept of having the option to have the dish with
>chicken, pork, beef or shrimp at additional cost, but that they took out
>the vegetables that were to be supplemented with the chicken. I have
>eaten there twice and upgraded to chicken and still had vegetables.
>For some reason, it seems that the vegetable curry is the only one that
>comes without vegetables when you opt to have meat added to it.


Yeah, that's really quite odd. Never heard of such a concept before

>We did not understand why, when you opt to have chicken added to
>vegetable curry, they would not have vegetables. The waitress seemed
>incapable of understanding why that would be a problem.


I'm no Thai food expert, but again... just odd.

>My friend had
>tried to order the vegetable curry because it had been so good, but with
>chicken as well, even if she had to pay even more. She could not be
>accommodated on that. She ended up having pumpkin curry with chicken
>because it still came with the pumpkin and other vegetables.



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Dave Smith wrote:
> There is a new Thai restaurant in our town and we tried it out a
> couple weeks ago and took friends there a couple nights ago. The food
> is good but communication can be difficult. I get the impression
> that the speak a very limited about of English and that they
> understand almost none. That is not too much of a problem as long as
> you have the time and patience to make yourself understood and
> understand.


When I find a new Thai place all I want to know is: Do they have stuffed
chicken wings?

God, those are orgasmic. I haven't had them in years because all the
places say they stopped making them because it's too labor intensive.

But if they can't understand you there's no point in asking. You'd end
up getting those marinated wings, which are just ok.



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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 22:01:54 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
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>Dave Smith wrote:
>> There is a new Thai restaurant in our town and we tried it out a
>> couple weeks ago and took friends there a couple nights ago. The food
>> is good but communication can be difficult.
>>
>> I get the impression that the speak a very limited about of English
>> and that they


I get the impression that they speak like you type. LOL

>> understand almost none. That is not too much of a problem as long as
>> you have the time and patience to make yourself understood and
>> understand.

>
>When I find a new Thai place all I want to know is: Do they have stuffed
>chicken wings?
>
>God, those are orgasmic. I haven't had them in years because all the
>places say they stopped making them because it's too labor intensive.
>
>But if they can't understand you there's no point in asking. You'd end
>up getting those marinated wings, which are just ok.


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In article >, Brooklyn1
says...
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> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 22:01:54 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
> > wrote:
>
> >Dave Smith wrote:
> >> There is a new Thai restaurant in our town and we tried it out a
> >> couple weeks ago and took friends there a couple nights ago. The food
> >> is good but communication can be difficult.
> >>
> >> I get the impression that the speak a very limited about of English
> >> and that they

>
> I get the impression that they speak like you type. LOL



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On 12/22/2016 11:08 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

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> ObFood: My Nomiku WiFi just died after 118 hours. Buy a Sansaire,
> Joule, or Anova instead.
>
> -sw
>


Thanks for the report. Is it covered under warranty?

Do you have any reports on the other three?

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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 04:50:25 -0800, Taxed and Spent
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> On 12/22/2016 11:08 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >
> > ObFood: My Nomiku WiFi just died after 118 hours. Buy a Sansaire,
> > Joule, or Anova instead.
> >
> > -sw
> >

>
> Thanks for the report. Is it covered under warranty?
>
> Do you have any reports on the other three?


Anova is very popular - at an entry level price. Sansaire and Joule
are more expensive - I'm not committed to sous vide cooking, so the
basic Anova works for my situation.


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