On 12/28/2016 3:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>
> On 12/28/2016 11:48 AM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>
>>> My granddaughter set me up on FB the last time she was here I
>>> ignore all
>>> the posts from FB wanting me to share stuff.
>>
>> If she set you up on FB, then FB knows all it wants to about you, no
>> escaping that. They were already in trouble over people trying to
>> delete FB etc. - it's that sort of thing I hate about it.
>>
> It is possible to tell FB less than the truth...
>
> ==========================
>
> I am assuming she knew what she was doing, since I don't get all that
> stuff they are complaining about.
>

"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...

On 12/28/2016 3:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>
> On 12/28/2016 11:48 AM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>
>>> My granddaughter set me up on FB the last time she was here I
>>> ignore all
>>> the posts from FB wanting me to share stuff.
>>
>> If she set you up on FB, then FB knows all it wants to about you, no
>> escaping that. They were already in trouble over people trying to
>> delete FB etc. - it's that sort of thing I hate about it.
>>
> It is possible to tell FB less than the truth...
>
> ==========================
>
> I am assuming she knew what she was doing, since I don't get all that
> stuff they are complaining about.



================

Lucky me eh)

I have 4 'friends' on there, all of whom are family and the only personal
posts I see on there are our the posts between family and family friends.

She seems to have done a good job eh?

Has she made it 'closed' to anyone not in that group?

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Roy wrote:

> The administrators seemed to think I insulted Steve Wertz and they booted
> my ass off of the site. For gawd's sake don't criticize anything that Steve
> says or you could receive the same treatment. He is the KING of RFC and
> must not be challenged even if he is wrong. You do not get to defend yourself
> as that would never do. Elitism will ever rule.
> =====


Sqwertz is a Petty n' Puny Punk, this is the kind of rancid thing that he would do...'course he has NO LIFE, so what do you expect...


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Best
Greg

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 5:15:31 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> On 12/28/2016 5:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > wrote in message ...
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:54:56 +1100, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 06:50:52 -0400, wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:30:29 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The administrators seemed to think I insulted Steve Wertz and they
> >>>> booted
> >>>> my ass off of the site. For gawd's sake don't criticize anything
> >>>> that Steve
> >>>> says or you could receive the same treatment. He is the KING of RFC and
> >>>> must not be challenged even if he is wrong. You do not get to defend
> >>>> yourself
> >>>> as that would never do. Elitism will ever rule.
> >>>> =====
> >>>
> >>> That's fools book for you!
> >>
> >> I'm in a few Facebook groups, but I've never been kicked out nor have
> >> I ever seen anyone else be kicked out. Maybe civilised people hang out
> >> with other civilised people?
> >
> > I have no idea, not prepared to give up what FB wants to know about
> > you in order to go on it. There's an article in todays Guardian about
> > FB, Snapchat et al and how they are the ones that gobble up all your
> > battery power on your cell phone. That being the case I have deleted
> > them further since I never use them.
> >
> > ========================
> >
> > My granddaughter set me up on FB the last time she was here I ignore
> > all the posts from FB wanting me to share stuff.
> >
>
> When the UK group moved to FB, I joined and immediately regretted it as
> every time someone farted and updated their damned page, I was notified.
> Also, I was horrified to find out that FB mines your e-mail address book
> to find out if there are any others that you want to "friend" or
> whatever. Within a month, I cancelled the membership.
>
> However, something weird is now happening. I get a weekly FB
> notification from a different member of the UK Food group that goes
> straight into the junk file. The first was notifying me about something
> Mike said, then the next week it was Giusi, then June and yesterday it
> was Mike again.
> I don't want to click on the FB thingy that supposedly stops these
> coming in case it re-opens my membership.
> Graham

Facebook is providing an awesome service for the intelligence community - photos of people with their names attached. If you have a database with names and faces and their associations with other people, places, and things, you'll going to be able to do seemingly magical things. With a big enough database you could put input a few names, places, and objects, and return a single name. It's freakin' magic! Evildoers beware!

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Cheri wrote:
> >>Roy wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The administrators seemed to think I insulted Steve Wertz and they
> >>> booted
> >>> my ass off of the site. For gawd's sake don't criticize anything that
> >>> Steve
> >>> says or you could receive the same treatment. He is the KING of RFC and
> >>> must not be challenged even if he is wrong. You do not get to defend
> >>> yourself as that would never do. Elitism will ever rule.
> >>> =====
> >>Show the post that got you booted. I imagine it wasn't mannerly. LOL
> >>
> >>Cheri
> >
> > Roy refered to Steve as The Dwarf! LOL
> > A couple three years ago I decided to try FB just to see what it was
> > about... I was booted before I ever posted anything. During the short
> > time I was subribed (less than 24 hrs) I saw nothing socially
> > redeeming... it should be renamed The Red-Nosers, bunch of sychophant
> > clowns.
> > http://i68.tinypic.com/2jfzxo3.jpg
>
>
>
> Well, that probably wasn't the best thing to say in a moderated group, so I
> imagine Roy knew he was gone when he posted it there, right?
>
> Cheri

Cheri...I didn't refer to Wertz as "The Dwarf". What happened was:
He was complaining that a VietNamese (spelling) Food forum wouldn't let him
join their group...I replied to that situation.
I don't remember the exact wording but it was in the vein of GOOD FOR THEM, I
WOULDN'T EITHER...and gave some reasons. Anyway Christine Dabney took exception and berated me for expressing my opinion and began the disbarment. Game
over and really I don't a hoot.
====

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 12:59:26 PM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
> > "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Cheri wrote:
> > >>Roy wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> The administrators seemed to think I insulted Steve Wertz and they
> > >>> booted
> > >>> my ass off of the site. For gawd's sake don't criticize anything that
> > >>> Steve
> > >>> says or you could receive the same treatment. He is the KING of RFC and
> > >>> must not be challenged even if he is wrong. You do not get to defend
> > >>> yourself as that would never do. Elitism will ever rule.
> > >>> =====
> > >>Show the post that got you booted. I imagine it wasn't mannerly. LOL
> > >>
> > >>Cheri
> > >
> > > Roy refered to Steve as The Dwarf! LOL
> > > A couple three years ago I decided to try FB just to see what it was
> > > about... I was booted before I ever posted anything. During the short
> > > time I was subribed (less than 24 hrs) I saw nothing socially
> > > redeeming... it should be renamed The Red-Nosers, bunch of sychophant
> > > clowns.
> > > http://i68.tinypic.com/2jfzxo3.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, that probably wasn't the best thing to say in a moderated group, so I
> > imagine Roy knew he was gone when he posted it there, right?
> >
> > Cheri
>
> Cheri...I didn't refer to Wertz as "The Dwarf". What happened was:
> He was complaining that a VietNamese (spelling) Food forum wouldn't let him
> join their group...I replied to that situation.
> I don't remember the exact wording but it was in the vein of GOOD FOR THEM, I
> WOULDN'T EITHER...and gave some reasons. Anyway Christine Dabney took exception and berated me for expressing my opinion and began the disbarment. Game
> over and really I don't a hoot.
> ====

This just goes to show that Usenet doesn't operate like the rest of the world. You can't get kicked off. One can certainly get their asses kicked off of Google Groups but I can't say that I disagree with their choices.

On 2016-12-28 5:59 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message

>> Well, that probably wasn't the best thing to say in a moderated
>> group, so I imagine Roy knew he was gone when he posted it there,
>> right?
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Cheri...I didn't refer to Wertz as "The Dwarf". What happened was: He
> was complaining that a VietNamese (spelling) Food forum wouldn't let
> him join their group...I replied to that situation. I don't remember
> the exact wording but it was in the vein of GOOD FOR THEM, I WOULDN'T
> EITHER...and gave some reasons. Anyway Christine Dabney took
> exception and berated me for expressing my opinion and began the
> disbarment. Game over and really I don't a hoot.


Why didn't you just block the guy?

On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:59:22 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:

>> Well, that probably wasn't the best thing to say in a moderated group, so I
>> imagine Roy knew he was gone when he posted it there, right?
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Cheri...I didn't refer to Wertz as "The Dwarf". What happened was:
>He was complaining that a VietNamese (spelling) Food forum wouldn't let him
>join their group...I replied to that situation.
>I don't remember the exact wording but it was in the vein of GOOD FOR THEM, I
>WOULDN'T EITHER...and gave some reasons. Anyway Christine Dabney took exception and berated me for expressing my opinion and began the disbarment. Game
>over and really I don't a hoot.
>====

It was only a matter of time before you were kicked off, because
sooner or later someone would have brought up haricots verts.

On 12/28/2016 4:43 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> I have 4 'friends' on there, all of whom are family and the only
> personal posts I see on there are our the posts between family and
> family friends.
>
> She seems to have done a good job eh?
>
> Has she made it 'closed' to anyone not in that group?
>
It would certainly seem so.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Cheri wrote:
>> >>Roy wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The administrators seemed to think I insulted Steve Wertz and they
>> >>> booted
>> >>> my ass off of the site. For gawd's sake don't criticize anything that
>> >>> Steve
>> >>> says or you could receive the same treatment. He is the KING of RFC
>> >>> and
>> >>> must not be challenged even if he is wrong. You do not get to defend
>> >>> yourself as that would never do. Elitism will ever rule.
>> >>> =====
>> >>Show the post that got you booted. I imagine it wasn't mannerly. LOL
>> >>
>> >>Cheri
>> >
>> > Roy refered to Steve as The Dwarf! LOL
>> > A couple three years ago I decided to try FB just to see what it was
>> > about... I was booted before I ever posted anything. During the short
>> > time I was subribed (less than 24 hrs) I saw nothing socially
>> > redeeming... it should be renamed The Red-Nosers, bunch of sychophant
>> > clowns.
>> > http://i68.tinypic.com/2jfzxo3.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, that probably wasn't the best thing to say in a moderated group, so
>> I
>> imagine Roy knew he was gone when he posted it there, right?
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Cheri...I didn't refer to Wertz as "The Dwarf". What happened was:
> He was complaining that a VietNamese (spelling) Food forum wouldn't let
> him
> join their group...I replied to that situation.
> I don't remember the exact wording but it was in the vein of GOOD FOR
> THEM, I
> WOULDN'T EITHER...and gave some reasons. Anyway Christine Dabney took
> exception and berated me for expressing my opinion and began the
> disbarment. Game
> over and really I don't a hoot.
> ====

OK, sorry I took Sheldon at his word. Sounds like it wasn't a big reason to
boot you, but then if people want only peace and harmony there, they should
have it.

Cheri

"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...

On 12/28/2016 4:43 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> I have 4 'friends' on there, all of whom are family and the only
> personal posts I see on there are our the posts between family and
> family friends.
>
> She seems to have done a good job eh?
>
> Has she made it 'closed' to anyone not in that group?
>
It would certainly seem so.

================

Ahh clever girl

Many years ago I joined at the request of a friend. I remember having
endless posts from FB and it was awful. In the end I just ignored them all
and never went back. Eventually they stopped and I was rather worried that
when GD put me on, that it would start all over again, but it was lovely to
find, it didn't)



--
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In article >,
says...

> Facebook is providing an awesome service for the intelligence community -
photos of people with their names attached. If you have a database with
names and faces and their associations with other people, places, and
things, you'll going to be able to do seemingly magical things. With a
big enough database you could put input a few names, places, and
objects, and return a single name. It's freakin' magic! Evildoers
beware!
>
>
Ditto tax evaders, and benefit-claim fraudsters. In UK, FB users
have given themselves away faking sick leave, disability and
unemployment claims etc.

Employers here now check job applicants' media records for evidence
of drug and alcohol use, sexual activity, faked qualifications and
background etc.

http://time.com/money/3510967/jobvit...-profiles-job-
applicants/

Janet UK

In article >,
says...

> This just goes to show that Usenet doesn't operate like the rest of
> the world. You can't get kicked off.

Usenet posters can and have been kicked off by their isp and or news
server, for violating their terms of service and "acceptable use
policy". On usenet.

I've also known at least two usenet posters who faced disciplinary
procedures from their employer, after using the employers news server
for access to usenet, where they trolled abused and harassed other
posters.


Janet UK

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 3:13:35 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> dsi1yahoo.com says...
>
> > Facebook is providing an awesome service for the intelligence community -
> photos of people with their names attached. If you have a database with
> names and faces and their associations with other people, places, and
> things, you'll going to be able to do seemingly magical things. With a
> big enough database you could put input a few names, places, and
> objects, and return a single name. It's freakin' magic! Evildoers
> beware!
> >
> >
> Ditto tax evaders, and benefit-claim fraudsters. In UK, FB users
> have given themselves away faking sick leave, disability and
> unemployment claims etc.
>
> Employers here now check job applicants' media records for evidence
> of drug and alcohol use, sexual activity, faked qualifications and
> background etc.
>
> http://time.com/money/3510967/jobvit...-profiles-job-
> applicants/
>
> Janet UK

One of my wife's co-workers at the hospital posted a video of himself doing a backflip into the ocean. He was out on disability at the time. Social media and electronic records are wonderful helps for investigators.

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 3:32:06 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> dsi1yahoo.com says...
>
> > This just goes to show that Usenet doesn't operate like the rest of
> > the world. You can't get kicked off.
>
> Usenet posters can and have been kicked off by their isp and or news
> server, for violating their terms of service and "acceptable use
> policy". On usenet.
>
> I've also known at least two usenet posters who faced disciplinary
> procedures from their employer, after using the employers news server
> for access to usenet, where they trolled abused and harassed other
> posters.
>
>
> Janet UK

Your isp or employer can certainly prevent you from posting to Usenet. You just don't use those channels.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 3:13:35 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > dsi1yahoo.com says...
> >
> > > Facebook is providing an awesome service for the intelligence community -
> > photos of people with their names attached. If you have a database with
> > names and faces and their associations with other people, places, and
> > things, you'll going to be able to do seemingly magical things. With a
> > big enough database you could put input a few names, places, and
> > objects, and return a single name. It's freakin' magic! Evildoers
> > beware!
> > >
> > >
> > Ditto tax evaders, and benefit-claim fraudsters. In UK, FB users
> > have given themselves away faking sick leave, disability and
> > unemployment claims etc.
> >
> > Employers here now check job applicants' media records for evidence
> > of drug and alcohol use, sexual activity, faked qualifications and
> > background etc.
> >
> > http://time.com/money/3510967/jobvit...-profiles-job-
> > applicants/
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> One of my wife's co-workers at the hospital posted a video of himself doing a backflip into the ocean. He was out on disability at the time. Social media and electronic records are wonderful helps for investigators.


Basically, don't post anything on social media you would not want your employer to see...I use the "Would I hire me?" metric.

Crime - wise, here in Chicawgo, gang members/criminals get busted, eventually for the "evidence" they stoopidly post on FB, making gang signs, bragging, etc....

Of course this happens to city/municipal employees, too, especially those who claim disability, but FB posts show them mountain climbing, cavorting in the surf in Hawaii, gambling at swank locales, etc...BUSTED...!!!


--
Best
Greg

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:13:28 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>
>> Facebook is providing an awesome service for the intelligence community -
>photos of people with their names attached. If you have a database with
>names and faces and their associations with other people, places, and
>things, you'll going to be able to do seemingly magical things. With a
>big enough database you could put input a few names, places, and
>objects, and return a single name. It's freakin' magic! Evildoers
>beware!
>>
>>
> Ditto tax evaders, and benefit-claim fraudsters. In UK, FB users
>have given themselves away faking sick leave, disability and
>unemployment claims etc.
>
> Employers here now check job applicants' media records for evidence
>of drug and alcohol use, sexual activity, faked qualifications and
>background etc.
>
> http://time.com/money/3510967/jobvit...-profiles-job-
>applicants/

The local transport authorities here have been known to monitor
certain Facebook pages where ppl try to sell cars with 'illegal'
modifications. They sometimes send letter out instructing ppl to bring
their cars in for a 'roadworthy'.

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:31:58 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>
>> This just goes to show that Usenet doesn't operate like the rest of
>> the world. You can't get kicked off.
>
> Usenet posters can and have been kicked off by their isp and or news
>server, for violating their terms of service and "acceptable use
>policy". On usenet.
>
> I've also known at least two usenet posters who faced disciplinary
>procedures from their employer, after using the employers news server
>for access to usenet, where they trolled abused and harassed other
>posters.

A few users have taken other users to court too. But, by and large
consequences from Usenet are very rare and those affected are
invariably extremely stupid and thoughtless.

On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:15:13 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 12/28/2016 10:15 AM, graham wrote:
>
> > When the UK group moved to FB, I joined and immediately regretted it as
> > every time someone farted and updated their damned page, I was notified.
> > Also, I was horrified to find out that FB mines your e-mail address book
> > to find out if there are any others that you want to "friend" or
> > whatever. Within a month, I cancelled the membership.
> >
> I turned off all those notifications.
> FaceBook only 'mines' your address book if you allow access to it. I don't.

I only see people on other people's "Friends" list. When it bothers
me enough, I'll reinstall Facebook purity on the new computer. Unlike
certain posters here, I seem to be capable of configuring FB to the
point that minor annoyances like that aren't a big problem (to date).


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:48:01 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

> Ahh maybe my granddaughter turned all that off.

I'm sure she did. Just be sure to uncheck "notifications" for all of
your groups. If you want a quiet news feed, you can also unfollow
anyone/everyone without unfriending them. That way their posts stay
out of your news feed - but you can catch up any time by going to
their wall/page (whatever it's called now) and reading it there.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 12/29/2016 12:22 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:15:13 -0500, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/28/2016 10:15 AM, graham wrote:
>>
>>> When the UK group moved to FB, I joined and immediately regretted it as
>>> every time someone farted and updated their damned page, I was notified.
>>> Also, I was horrified to find out that FB mines your e-mail address book
>>> to find out if there are any others that you want to "friend" or
>>> whatever. Within a month, I cancelled the membership.
>>>
>> I turned off all those notifications.
>> FaceBook only 'mines' your address book if you allow access to it. I don't.
>
> I only see people on other people's "Friends" list. When it bothers
> me enough, I'll reinstall Facebook purity on the new computer. Unlike
> certain posters here, I seem to be capable of configuring FB to the
> point that minor annoyances like that aren't a big problem (to date).
>
>
Do you follow a special diet to be so effing perfect?

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:10:58 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 12/29/2016 12:22 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:15:13 -0500, S Viemeister
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I turned off all those notifications.
>>> FaceBook only 'mines' your address book if you allow access to it. I don't.
>>
>> I only see people on other people's "Friends" list. When it bothers
>> me enough, I'll reinstall Facebook purity on the new computer. Unlike
>> certain posters here, I seem to be capable of configuring FB to the
>> point that minor annoyances like that aren't a big problem (to date).
>>
>>
>Do you follow a special diet to be so effing perfect?

It's not that hard to look at a few settings. If you can't do that,
how are you coping with a computer at all?

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:35:56 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 3:13:35 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > dsi1yahoo.com says...
> > >
> > > > Facebook is providing an awesome service for the intelligence community -
> > > photos of people with their names attached. If you have a database with
> > > names and faces and their associations with other people, places, and
> > > things, you'll going to be able to do seemingly magical things. With a
> > > big enough database you could put input a few names, places, and
> > > objects, and return a single name. It's freakin' magic! Evildoers
> > > beware!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Ditto tax evaders, and benefit-claim fraudsters. In UK, FB users
> > > have given themselves away faking sick leave, disability and
> > > unemployment claims etc.
> > >
> > > Employers here now check job applicants' media records for evidence
> > > of drug and alcohol use, sexual activity, faked qualifications and
> > > background etc.
> > >
> > > http://time.com/money/3510967/jobvit...-profiles-job-
> > > applicants/
> > >
> > > Janet UK
> >
> > One of my wife's co-workers at the hospital posted a video of himself doing a backflip into the ocean. He was out on disability at the time. Social media and electronic records are wonderful helps for investigators.
>
>
> Basically, don't post anything on social media you would not want your employer to see...I use the "Would I hire me?" metric.
>
> Crime - wise, here in Chicawgo, gang members/criminals get busted, eventually for the "evidence" they stoopidly post on FB, making gang signs, bragging, etc....
>
> Of course this happens to city/municipal employees, too, especially those who claim disability, but FB posts show them mountain climbing, cavorting in the surf in Hawaii, gambling at swank locales, etc...BUSTED...!!!
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

That's the great thing about wrong doers. They just have to blab about their capers, exploits, and misdeeds. In the end, they'll usually get it in the end.

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:10:58 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 12/29/2016 12:22 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:15:13 -0500, S Viemeister
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/28/2016 10:15 AM, graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> When the UK group moved to FB, I joined and immediately regretted it as
>>>> every time someone farted and updated their damned page, I was notified.
>>>> Also, I was horrified to find out that FB mines your e-mail address book
>>>> to find out if there are any others that you want to "friend" or
>>>> whatever. Within a month, I cancelled the membership.
>>>>
>>> I turned off all those notifications.
>>> FaceBook only 'mines' your address book if you allow access to it. I don't.
>>
>> I only see people on other people's "Friends" list. When it bothers
>> me enough, I'll reinstall Facebook purity on the new computer. Unlike
>> certain posters here, I seem to be capable of configuring FB to the
>> point that minor annoyances like that aren't a big problem (to date).
>>
>>
>Do you follow a special diet to be so effing perfect?

Be still my heart

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:16:59 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:10:58 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 12/29/2016 12:22 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:15:13 -0500, S Viemeister
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I turned off all those notifications.
>>>> FaceBook only 'mines' your address book if you allow access to it. I don't.
>>>
>>> I only see people on other people's "Friends" list. When it bothers
>>> me enough, I'll reinstall Facebook purity on the new computer. Unlike
>>> certain posters here, I seem to be capable of configuring FB to the
>>> point that minor annoyances like that aren't a big problem (to date).
>>>
>>>
>>Do you follow a special diet to be so effing perfect?
>
>It's not that hard to look at a few settings. If you can't do that,
>how are you coping with a computer at all?

To be so totally tied into your computer and cell phone is
disingenuous.

On 2016-12-29 5:59 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:16:59 +1100, Bruce >

>> It's not that hard to look at a few settings. If you can't do that,
>> how are you coping with a computer at all?
>
> To be so totally tied into your computer and cell phone is
> disingenuous.
>
Disingenuous??? Really?

On 12/29/2016 7:13 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>> Facebook is providing an awesome service for the intelligence
community -
> photos of people with their names attached. If you have a database
> with names and faces and their associations with other people,
> places, and things, you'll going to be able to do seemingly magical
> things. With a big enough database you could put input a few names,
> places, and objects, and return a single name. It's freakin' magic!
> Evildoers beware!
>>
>>
> Ditto tax evaders, and benefit-claim fraudsters. In UK, FB users have
> given themselves away faking sick leave, disability and unemployment
> claims etc.
>
> Employers here now check job applicants' media records for evidence
> of drug and alcohol use, sexual activity, faked qualifications and
> background etc.
>
> http://time.com/money/3510967/jobvit...-profiles-job-
> applicants/

In the USA, laws have been passed by many states, including Illinois
(effective 1/1/2017), that prohibit any company/employer and
'educational institution' from requesting any potential employee for
their username(s) and password(s) to any _personal_ email and social
media accounts such as FB, LinkedIn and the like. If one is curious,
here are a couple of links . . .

http://www.ncsl.org/research/telecom...passwords.aspx

or
http://tinyurl.com/jv9ha2f

and

https://www.illinois.gov/idol/about/...2016-Laws.aspx
or
http://tinyurl.com/gwyrx5m
(see "Public Act 99-0610 (HB4999) – Work
Privacy Social Media")

The amended Illinois law [Public Act 99-0610 (HB4999)] in part states:

(begin quote)
Summary: Amends Section 10 of the Right to Privacy in the Workplace Act
by expanding the online accounts that employers and prospective
employers are prohibited from accessing. Prohibits not only an
employer gaining access to these personal online accounts, but now
prohibits the employer from:
1. requesting, requiring or coercing any employee or prospective
employee to authenticate or access an account while the employer is present
2. require or coerce an employee to invite an employer to join a
group affiliated with the personal online account
3. require or coerce the employee to join an online account
established by the employer or add the employer to the employee’s list
of contacts in the employee’s personal account.
(end quote)

Of course, it is unwise to post and/or share anything online that
might/could come back to detrimentally haunt the author.

Sky, who is definitely not immune to the "open mouth, insert foot"
syndrome - VBG!

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 18:59:22 -0400, wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:16:59 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:10:58 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 12/29/2016 12:22 PM, sf wrote:

>>>> I only see people on other people's "Friends" list. When it bothers
>>>> me enough, I'll reinstall Facebook purity on the new computer. Unlike
>>>> certain posters here, I seem to be capable of configuring FB to the
>>>> point that minor annoyances like that aren't a big problem (to date).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Do you follow a special diet to be so effing perfect?
>>
>>It's not that hard to look at a few settings. If you can't do that,
>>how are you coping with a computer at all?
>
>To be so totally tied into your computer and cell phone is
>disingenuous.

Choosing a few settings means you're tied into your computer? Me no
understand.

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:10:58 -0700, graham > wrote:

> On 12/29/2016 12:22 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:15:13 -0500, S Viemeister
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/28/2016 10:15 AM, graham wrote:
> >>
> >>> When the UK group moved to FB, I joined and immediately regretted it as
> >>> every time someone farted and updated their damned page, I was notified.
> >>> Also, I was horrified to find out that FB mines your e-mail address book
> >>> to find out if there are any others that you want to "friend" or
> >>> whatever. Within a month, I cancelled the membership.
> >>>
> >> I turned off all those notifications.
> >> FaceBook only 'mines' your address book if you allow access to it. I don't.
> >
> > I only see people on other people's "Friends" list. When it bothers
> > me enough, I'll reinstall Facebook purity on the new computer. Unlike
> > certain posters here, I seem to be capable of configuring FB to the
> > point that minor annoyances like that aren't a big problem (to date).
> >
> >
> Do you follow a special diet to be so effing perfect?

Perfect? No. Intelligent, yes.


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On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:50:15 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

> The best piece of advice is, if you're concerned about privacy and
> tracking, do not use the Facebook app on your cell-phone. Because
> then Facebook will have also collected all the same data that Google
> and Apple have already collected about you.

They shouldn't be using a cell phone and should keep their computer
turned off. Of course, in this age of information - every company
under the sun has anything they want to know about them already.


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On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:27:15 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 12/28/2016 11:48 AM, wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>
> >> My granddaughter set me up on FB the last time she was here I ignore all
> >> the posts from FB wanting me to share stuff.
> >
> > If she set you up on FB, then FB knows all it wants to about you, no
> > escaping that. They were already in trouble over people trying to
> > delete FB etc. - it's that sort of thing I hate about it.
> >
> It is possible to tell FB less than the truth...

It most certainly is, but the whiners seem to have filled in every
blank.


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On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:56:10 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> > wrote in message
> news
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:21:32 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:28:07 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
> m...
> >>>>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 06:50:52 -0400, wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:30:29 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> >>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The administrators seemed to think I insulted Steve Wertz and they
> >>>>>>>booted
> >>>>>>>my ass off of the site. For gawd's sake don't criticize anything that
> >>>>>>>Steve
> >>>>>>>says or you could receive the same treatment. He is the KING of RFC
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>must not be challenged even if he is wrong. You do not get to defend
> >>>>>>>yourself
> >>>>>>>as that would never do. Elitism will ever rule.
> >>>>>>>=====
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>That's fools book for you!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm in a few Facebook groups, but I've never been kicked out nor have
> >>>>> I ever seen anyone else be kicked out. Maybe civilised people hang out
> >>>>> with other civilised people?
> >>>>
> >>>>I guarantee you if you (or I) posted some of the things that are said
> >>>>here,
> >>>>you would be kicked, it's the knowing that you can't behave that way
> >>>>with
> >>>>moderators that keeps you in line, same with SW.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheri
> >>>>
> >>> It does depend on the moderator though. I am moderator on a yahoo
> >>> group and the only reason I am is to prevent ads - as to who becomes a
> >>> member or what they might say, nada, it was only because a bunch of us
> >>> couldn't stand the ads, so I offered to do it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Well sure, it does depend on the moderator, but I was specifically talking
> >>about RFC on Facebook.
> >>
> >>Cheri
> >
> > Our lot didn't care what posters said, just to not have the ads. Can
> > you see what Roy said?
>
> No, I do not belong to FB, but I was talking about some of the posters here
> in the past couple of years who had complained that they were banned,
> booted, etc. with Facebook RFC. Once a long time ago I was in a MS politics
> chat room that was moderated by someone called Templeton, you could not
> disagree with ANYTHING the ultra liberal said or you were kicked. After a
> couple of months, I had enough and that was my only foray into moderated
> groups.
>

Groups aren't one size fits all and obviously that wasn't the group
for you. You find the groups that suit you, if they don't - then drop
out. Not surprised to hear you found a political group that was
hyper focused on one POV. People don't usually start them to hear all
sides of an issue, they start them to find like minded individuals.


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LinkedIn is much harder to delete than FB, IMO. It took me about six
tries before I got rid of all the LinkedIn notifications...and I never signed up
with that thing in the first place.

N.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:50:15 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> The best piece of advice is, if you're concerned about privacy and
>> tracking, do not use the Facebook app on your cell-phone. Because
>> then Facebook will have also collected all the same data that Google
>> and Apple have already collected about you.
>
> They shouldn't be using a cell phone and should keep their computer
> turned off. Of course, in this age of information - every company
> under the sun has anything they want to know about them already.

And boring information about most.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
...

> Groups aren't one size fits all and obviously that wasn't the group
> for you. You find the groups that suit you, if they don't - then drop
> out. Not surprised to hear you found a political group that was
> hyper focused on one POV. People don't usually start them to hear all
> sides of an issue, they start them to find like minded individuals.

Yes, that is very true, but it was supposedly a group for all political
points of view, MS chat 2.5, it was the moderator that was a pain, but he
wasn't there all the time since moderators changed, which was fine, but when
he was...it was just ridiculous.

Cheri

On 12/29/2016 11:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:10:58 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 12/29/2016 12:22 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:15:13 -0500, S Viemeister
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/28/2016 10:15 AM, graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When the UK group moved to FB, I joined and immediately regretted it as
>>>>> every time someone farted and updated their damned page, I was notified.
>>>>> Also, I was horrified to find out that FB mines your e-mail address book
>>>>> to find out if there are any others that you want to "friend" or
>>>>> whatever. Within a month, I cancelled the membership.
>>>>>
>>>> I turned off all those notifications.
>>>> FaceBook only 'mines' your address book if you allow access to it. I don't.
>>>
>>> I only see people on other people's "Friends" list. When it bothers
>>> me enough, I'll reinstall Facebook purity on the new computer. Unlike
>>> certain posters here, I seem to be capable of configuring FB to the
>>> point that minor annoyances like that aren't a big problem (to date).
>>>
>>>
>> Do you follow a special diet to be so effing perfect?
>
> Perfect? No. Intelligent, yes.
>
>
Perhaps street-smart rather than intelligent!

"graham" wrote in message news
On 12/29/2016 11:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:10:58 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 12/29/2016 12:22 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:15:13 -0500, S Viemeister
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/28/2016 10:15 AM, graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When the UK group moved to FB, I joined and immediately regretted it
>>>>> as
>>>>> every time someone farted and updated their damned page, I was
>>>>> notified.
>>>>> Also, I was horrified to find out that FB mines your e-mail address
>>>>> book
>>>>> to find out if there are any others that you want to "friend" or
>>>>> whatever. Within a month, I cancelled the membership.
>>>>>
>>>> I turned off all those notifications.
>>>> FaceBook only 'mines' your address book if you allow access to it. I
>>>> don't.
>>>
>>> I only see people on other people's "Friends" list. When it bothers
>>> me enough, I'll reinstall Facebook purity on the new computer. Unlike
>>> certain posters here, I seem to be capable of configuring FB to the
>>> point that minor annoyances like that aren't a big problem (to date).
>>>
>>>
>> Do you follow a special diet to be so effing perfect?
>
> Perfect? No. Intelligent, yes.
>
>
Perhaps street-smart rather than intelligent!

===

That's pushing it ...


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"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 9:47:43 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > The administrators seemed to think I insulted Steve Wertz and they
>> > booted
>> > my ass off of the site. For gawd's sake don't criticize anything that
>> > Steve
>> > says or you could receive the same treatment. He is the KING of RFC and
>> > must not be challenged even if he is wrong. You do not get to defend
>> > yourself
>> > as that would never do. Elitism will ever rule.
>> > =====
>>
>>
>>
>> Show the post that got you booted. I imagine it wasn't mannerly. LOL
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Sorry Cheri, I can't...they won't let me on their site...SOB...SOB.
> Anyway I criticized squertzy over something he said and BLAMMO the
> earth shook and lightning flashed and I was out on my posterior.
> =====


Once you get through the withdrawl you'll realize life is much better
without Facebook. All social media for that matter.




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On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:06:24 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 9:47:43 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > The administrators seemed to think I insulted Steve Wertz and they
>>> > booted
>>> > my ass off of the site. For gawd's sake don't criticize anything that
>>> > Steve
>>> > says or you could receive the same treatment. He is the KING of RFC and
>>> > must not be challenged even if he is wrong. You do not get to defend
>>> > yourself
>>> > as that would never do. Elitism will ever rule.
>>> > =====
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Show the post that got you booted. I imagine it wasn't mannerly. LOL
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Sorry Cheri, I can't...they won't let me on their site...SOB...SOB.
>> Anyway I criticized squertzy over something he said and BLAMMO the
>> earth shook and lightning flashed and I was out on my posterior.
>> =====
>
>
>Once you get through the withdrawl you'll realize life is much better
>without Facebook. All social media for that matter.
>

Agree that it is mostly useless or worse than useless in the way most
people make use of it.

I'm back on there at the instance of an overseas friend as a method of
communication. I'd prefer good old email, but... oh well. FB *can* be
useful though, for things such as for sale groups or researching
things. I'm finding it invaluable at the moment for researching into
moving overseas full or part time, for example.

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:06:24 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 9:47:43 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> Show the post that got you booted. I imagine it wasn't mannerly. LOL
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Sorry Cheri, I can't...they won't let me on their site...SOB...SOB.
>> Anyway I criticized squertzy over something he said and BLAMMO the
>> earth shook and lightning flashed and I was out on my posterior.
>> =====
>
>
>Once you get through the withdrawl you'll realize life is much better
>without Facebook. All social media for that matter.

The same applies to the telephone. It's all in how you use it.