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On Wednesday, May 1, 1996 at 4:30:00 PM UTC+9:30, Marilyn Bolton wrote:
> I live in Canada and wish to make the Australian recipe "Chocolate
> Crackles" which calls for copha - a hard fat made from coconut I think.
> Does anyone have an idea for a substitution? Crisco works, but tastes
> awful in this recipe. Thanks,
>
> Marilyn


Seems people are still looking this up and replying to it :-) as i was looking for a substitute for copha, and i live in australia.

Copha is very bad for you, i remember the stuff in the 70's an 80's as a kid.
just this Christmas i made a bunch of white Christmas crackles.
after making them i read the label "horror" "Hydrogenated coconut oil"
it is essentially a block of pure trans fat because of the hydrogenation.
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On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 6:40:32 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 1, 1996 at 4:30:00 PM UTC+9:30, Marilyn Bolton wrote:
> > I live in Canada and wish to make the Australian recipe "Chocolate
> > Crackles" which calls for copha - a hard fat made from coconut I think.
> > Does anyone have an idea for a substitution? Crisco works, but tastes
> > awful in this recipe. Thanks,
> >
> > Marilyn

>
> Seems people are still looking this up and replying to it :-) as i was looking for a substitute for copha, and i live in australia.
>
> Copha is very bad for you, i remember the stuff in the 70's an 80's as a kid.
> just this Christmas i made a bunch of white Christmas crackles.
> after making them i read the label "horror" "Hydrogenated coconut oil"
> it is essentially a block of pure trans fat because of the hydrogenation.


It didn't kill you when you were a kid nor did you die this Christmas. What the heck are you complaining about?
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:38:53 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 6:40:32 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 1996 at 4:30:00 PM UTC+9:30, Marilyn Bolton wrote:
>> > I live in Canada and wish to make the Australian recipe "Chocolate
>> > Crackles" which calls for copha - a hard fat made from coconut I think.
>> > Does anyone have an idea for a substitution? Crisco works, but tastes
>> > awful in this recipe. Thanks,
>> >
>> > Marilyn

>>
>> Seems people are still looking this up and replying to it :-) as i was looking for a substitute for copha, and i live in australia.
>>
>> Copha is very bad for you, i remember the stuff in the 70's an 80's as a kid.
>> just this Christmas i made a bunch of white Christmas crackles.
>> after making them i read the label "horror" "Hydrogenated coconut oil"
>> it is essentially a block of pure trans fat because of the hydrogenation.

>
>It didn't kill you when you were a kid nor did you die this Christmas. What the heck are you complaining about?


Maybe she'd like to grow old. Cigarettes don't kill you on the spot
either.
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On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 12:06:13 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:38:53 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 6:40:32 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, May 1, 1996 at 4:30:00 PM UTC+9:30, Marilyn Bolton wrote:
> >> > I live in Canada and wish to make the Australian recipe "Chocolate
> >> > Crackles" which calls for copha - a hard fat made from coconut I think.
> >> > Does anyone have an idea for a substitution? Crisco works, but tastes
> >> > awful in this recipe. Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Marilyn
> >>
> >> Seems people are still looking this up and replying to it :-) as i was looking for a substitute for copha, and i live in australia.
> >>
> >> Copha is very bad for you, i remember the stuff in the 70's an 80's as a kid.
> >> just this Christmas i made a bunch of white Christmas crackles.
> >> after making them i read the label "horror" "Hydrogenated coconut oil"
> >> it is essentially a block of pure trans fat because of the hydrogenation.

> >
> >It didn't kill you when you were a kid nor did you die this Christmas. What the heck are you complaining about?

>
> Maybe she'd like to grow old. Cigarettes don't kill you on the spot
> either.


If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people should not follow this practice.
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On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
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> If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
> day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
> should not follow this practice.
>


When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.


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On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:56:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
> > day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
> > should not follow this practice.
> >

>
> When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
> given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
> of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.


Coconut oil is in a weird space right now. It's trending and getting popular and at the same time, people are calling it dangerous. My tip is not to eat popcorn at the movies. That stuff is popped in coconut oil.
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:57:55 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
>> day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
>> should not follow this practice.
>>

>
>When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
>given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
>of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.


I wonder if that applies to the oil (yes), the milk and the meat.
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dsi1 wrote:

> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:56:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
> > > day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
> > > should not follow this practice.
> > >

> >
> > When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
> > given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
> > of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.

>
> Coconut oil is in a weird space right now. It's trending and getting popular and at the same time, people are calling it dangerous. My tip is not to eat popcorn at the movies. That stuff is popped in coconut oil.



Coconut "water" is a biggie thing, see it all around. I love coconut, but this does not appeal to me...

I see "lowfat" coconut milk, does this simply mean it's regular, and diluted with water? I used a can of coco milk in the last batch of oatmeal I made...

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:57:55 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
>> day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
>> should not follow this practice.
>>

>
>When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
>given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
>of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.


That's because most dietitians (and bodies such as the FDA) are
extremely conservative and take forever to update their knowledge with
current scientific information. Coconut gets dumped in the category of
'saturated fats' and they can't grasp the concept that not all
saturated fats are the same.
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On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:43:41 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:56:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
> > > > day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
> > > > should not follow this practice.
> > > >
> > >
> > > When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
> > > given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
> > > of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.

> >
> > Coconut oil is in a weird space right now. It's trending and getting popular and at the same time, people are calling it dangerous. My tip is not to eat popcorn at the movies. That stuff is popped in coconut oil.

>
>
> Coconut "water" is a biggie thing, see it all around. I love coconut, but this does not appeal to me...
>
> I see "lowfat" coconut milk, does this simply mean it's regular, and diluted with water? I used a can of coco milk in the last batch of oatmeal I made...
>
> --
> Best
> Greg


Coconut juice/water is a bit nasty but the kids love it. They like the one with chunks of stuff in it. Some people call the water, "milk." The stuff with the high fat content is coconut "cream." Some people call the coconut cream, "milk." There's a general state of confusion as to what to call all the fluids that come from the coconut. My guess is that the lowfat stuff is coconut cream with the fat removed but your guess is as good as mine. When I buy coconut cream, I look for the can with the highest fat content. Looks like I'm dead meat.

I have tried low-fat condensed coconut milk. Oddly enough it sorta tastes like regular condensed milk.


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On 2016-12-29 12:24 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:57:55 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:


>> When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
>> given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
>> of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.

>
> I wonder if that applies to the oil (yes), the milk and the meat.
>

I don't know. I know that there is a controversy about the benefits of
coconut oil vs the danger of it. There are lots of sites that extol its
virtues, and then there are those that claim that those sites are from
the people who benefit from the sale of those products. Meanwhile, I
have the advise of cardiac specialists who think it is bad and, as I
sad, had the "not coconut" in large capital letters to stress it. It's a
shame because I like coconut.
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On 2016-12-29 1:46 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:57:55 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
>>> day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
>>> should not follow this practice.
>>>

>>
>> When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
>> given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
>> of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.

>
> That's because most dietitians (and bodies such as the FDA) are
> extremely conservative and take forever to update their knowledge with
> current scientific information. Coconut gets dumped in the category of
> 'saturated fats' and they can't grasp the concept that not all
> saturated fats are the same.
>


I don't wear a tin foil hat. I sort of expect that the people who have
studied nutrition and who are in the business of teaching people are at
the top of the list of those whose advise should be trusted.
Professionals in any field tend to be aware of the latest information.

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:18:37 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-12-29 1:46 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:57:55 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
>>>> day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
>>>> should not follow this practice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
>>> given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
>>> of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.

>>
>> That's because most dietitians (and bodies such as the FDA) are
>> extremely conservative and take forever to update their knowledge with
>> current scientific information. Coconut gets dumped in the category of
>> 'saturated fats' and they can't grasp the concept that not all
>> saturated fats are the same.
>>

>
>I don't wear a tin foil hat.


HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I'll have to inform you that you've
exceeded your daily allowence of kool-aid. Do the people behind the
'Dietary Guidelines for Americans' also wear 'tin foil hats' Dave?
https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/

In particular, pay attention to this:

"641 Cholesterol. Previously, the
Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommended that cholesterol intake
be limited to no more than 300 mg/day. The 2015 DGAC will not bring
forward this recommendation because available evidence shows no
appreciable relationship between consumption of dietary cholesterol
and serum cholesterol consistent with the conclusions of the AHA/ACC
report Cholesterol is not a nutrient of concern for overconsumption"
https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines...ee.pdf#page=90

It took them far too long to accept and update their guidelines, but
that only proves my original point. Search the same pdf for coconut if
you like...

> I sort of expect that the people who have
>studied nutrition and who are in the business of teaching people are at
>the top of the list of those whose advise should be trusted.


Some are to be trusted, some are not. Most are lazy and take the path
of least resistance by just going along with whatever medical
association they are a member of. As I said before, most are extremely
conservative and take forever to update their knowledge with
current scientific information. That has always been the case.
You just can't comprehend what I said and opted for your usual
retarded knee-jerk reaction without giving it any thought.

>Professionals in any field tend to be aware of the latest information.


Now that is complete and utter bullshit. The information I provided
above has been well established for over a decade now by many, many
reputable studies.

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On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:43:41 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:56:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff
> > > > every
> > > > day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
> > > > should not follow this practice.
> > > >
> > >
> > > When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
> > > given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the
> > > list
> > > of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT
> > > COCONUT.

> >
> > Coconut oil is in a weird space right now. It's trending and getting
> > popular and at the same time, people are calling it dangerous. My tip is
> > not to eat popcorn at the movies. That stuff is popped in coconut oil.

>
>
> Coconut "water" is a biggie thing, see it all around. I love coconut, but
> this does not appeal to me...
>
> I see "lowfat" coconut milk, does this simply mean it's regular, and
> diluted with water? I used a can of coco milk in the last batch of
> oatmeal I made...
>
> --
> Best
> Greg


Coconut juice/water is a bit nasty but the kids love it. They like the one
with chunks of stuff in it. Some people call the water, "milk." The stuff
with the high fat content is coconut "cream." Some people call the coconut
cream, "milk." There's a general state of confusion as to what to call all
the fluids that come from the coconut. My guess is that the lowfat stuff is
coconut cream with the fat removed but your guess is as good as mine. When I
buy coconut cream, I look for the can with the highest fat content. Looks
like I'm dead meat.

I have tried low-fat condensed coconut milk. Oddly enough it sorta tastes
like regular condensed milk.

========

I like whipped coconut cream better than regular whipped cream on most
things, and use it often. I'll have to take my chances with it and kicking
the bucket anytime soon. ;-)

Cheri


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On 2016-12-29 4:00 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:18:37 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-12-29 1:46 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:57:55 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
>>>>> day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
>>>>> should not follow this practice.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
>>>> given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
>>>> of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.
>>>
>>> That's because most dietitians (and bodies such as the FDA) are
>>> extremely conservative and take forever to update their knowledge with
>>> current scientific information. Coconut gets dumped in the category of
>>> 'saturated fats' and they can't grasp the concept that not all
>>> saturated fats are the same.
>>>

>>
>> I don't wear a tin foil hat.

>
> HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I'll have to inform you that you've
> exceeded your daily allowence of kool-aid. Do the people behind the
> 'Dietary Guidelines for Americans' also wear 'tin foil hats' Dave?
> https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/
>
> In particular, pay attention to this:
>
> "641 Cholesterol. Previously, the
> Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommended that cholesterol intake
> be limited to no more than 300 mg/day. The 2015 DGAC will not bring
> forward this recommendation because available evidence shows no
> appreciable relationship between consumption of dietary cholesterol
> and serum cholesterol consistent with the conclusions of the AHA/ACC
> report Cholesterol is not a nutrient of concern for overconsumption"
> https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines...ee.pdf#page=90
>
> It took them far too long to accept and update their guidelines, but
> that only proves my original point. Search the same pdf for coconut if
> you like...
>
>> I sort of expect that the people who have
>> studied nutrition and who are in the business of teaching people are at
>> the top of the list of those whose advise should be trusted.

>
> Some are to be trusted, some are not. Most are lazy and take the path
> of least resistance by just going along with whatever medical
> association they are a member of. As I said before, most are extremely
> conservative and take forever to update their knowledge with
> current scientific information. That has always been the case.
> You just can't comprehend what I said and opted for your usual
> retarded knee-jerk reaction without giving it any thought.
>
>> Professionals in any field tend to be aware of the latest information.

>
> Now that is complete and utter bullshit. The information I provided
> above has been well established for over a decade now by many, many
> reputable studies.
>



It does say that they need to do more research on it.


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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:04:23 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2016-12-29 4:00 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:18:37 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-12-29 1:46 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:57:55 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff every
>>>>>> day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
>>>>>> should not follow this practice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
>>>>> given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the list
>>>>> of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT COCONUT.
>>>>
>>>> That's because most dietitians (and bodies such as the FDA) are
>>>> extremely conservative and take forever to update their knowledge with
>>>> current scientific information. Coconut gets dumped in the category of
>>>> 'saturated fats' and they can't grasp the concept that not all
>>>> saturated fats are the same.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't wear a tin foil hat.

>>
>> HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I'll have to inform you that you've
>> exceeded your daily allowence of kool-aid. Do the people behind the
>> 'Dietary Guidelines for Americans' also wear 'tin foil hats' Dave?
>> https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/
>>
>> In particular, pay attention to this:
>>
>> "641 Cholesterol. Previously, the
>> Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommended that cholesterol intake
>> be limited to no more than 300 mg/day. The 2015 DGAC will not bring
>> forward this recommendation because available evidence shows no
>> appreciable relationship between consumption of dietary cholesterol
>> and serum cholesterol consistent with the conclusions of the AHA/ACC
>> report Cholesterol is not a nutrient of concern for overconsumption"
>> https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines...ee.pdf#page=90
>>
>> It took them far too long to accept and update their guidelines, but
>> that only proves my original point. Search the same pdf for coconut if
>> you like...
>>
>>> I sort of expect that the people who have
>>> studied nutrition and who are in the business of teaching people are at
>>> the top of the list of those whose advise should be trusted.

>>
>> Some are to be trusted, some are not. Most are lazy and take the path
>> of least resistance by just going along with whatever medical
>> association they are a member of. As I said before, most are extremely
>> conservative and take forever to update their knowledge with
>> current scientific information. That has always been the case.
>> You just can't comprehend what I said and opted for your usual
>> retarded knee-jerk reaction without giving it any thought.
>>
>>> Professionals in any field tend to be aware of the latest information.

>>
>> Now that is complete and utter bullshit. The information I provided
>> above has been well established for over a decade now by many, many
>> reputable studies.
>>

>
>
>It does say that they need to do more research on it.


You can't have it both ways Dave. 'They' (does that also require some
sort of special hat?) have said that about a lot of other things that
they have recommended since time immemorial. You're not much good at
being objective.
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On 2016-12-29 5:08 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:04:23 -0500, Dave Smith


>>> Now that is complete and utter bullshit. The information I provided
>>> above has been well established for over a decade now by many, many
>>> reputable studies.
>>>

>>
>>
>> It does say that they need to do more research on it.

>
> You can't have it both ways Dave. 'They' (does that also require some
> sort of special hat?) have said that about a lot of other things that
> they have recommended since time immemorial. You're not much good at
> being objective.


I was objective enough to look at the link you provided and I saw where
it questioned the issue of coconut and solid fats and said there needs
to be more research.


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On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 11:59:21 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:43:41 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:56:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff
> > > > > every
> > > > > day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that people
> > > > > should not follow this practice.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
> > > > given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the
> > > > list
> > > > of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT
> > > > COCONUT.
> > >
> > > Coconut oil is in a weird space right now. It's trending and getting
> > > popular and at the same time, people are calling it dangerous. My tip is
> > > not to eat popcorn at the movies. That stuff is popped in coconut oil.

> >
> >
> > Coconut "water" is a biggie thing, see it all around. I love coconut, but
> > this does not appeal to me...
> >
> > I see "lowfat" coconut milk, does this simply mean it's regular, and
> > diluted with water? I used a can of coco milk in the last batch of
> > oatmeal I made...
> >
> > --
> > Best
> > Greg

>
> Coconut juice/water is a bit nasty but the kids love it. They like the one
> with chunks of stuff in it. Some people call the water, "milk." The stuff
> with the high fat content is coconut "cream." Some people call the coconut
> cream, "milk." There's a general state of confusion as to what to call all
> the fluids that come from the coconut. My guess is that the lowfat stuff is
> coconut cream with the fat removed but your guess is as good as mine. When I
> buy coconut cream, I look for the can with the highest fat content. Looks
> like I'm dead meat.
>
> I have tried low-fat condensed coconut milk. Oddly enough it sorta tastes
> like regular condensed milk.
>
> ========
>
> I like whipped coconut cream better than regular whipped cream on most
> things, and use it often. I'll have to take my chances with it and kicking
> the bucket anytime soon. ;-)
>
> Cheri


I like your attitude.
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:43:46 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-12-29 5:08 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:04:23 -0500, Dave Smith

>
>>>> Now that is complete and utter bullshit. The information I provided
>>>> above has been well established for over a decade now by many, many
>>>> reputable studies.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It does say that they need to do more research on it.

>>
>> You can't have it both ways Dave. 'They' (does that also require some
>> sort of special hat?) have said that about a lot of other things that
>> they have recommended since time immemorial. You're not much good at
>> being objective.

>
>I was objective enough to look at the link you provided and I saw where
>it questioned the issue of coconut and solid fats and said there needs
>to be more research.


That only indicates your lack of experience in researching this
subject and the relevant government agencies involved.
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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 11:59:21 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:43:41 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote:
>> > dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:56:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > On 2016-12-29 11:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If you're saying that one could easily die by eating that stuff
>> > > > > every
>> > > > > day for decades, I won't disagree. My recommendation is that
>> > > > > people
>> > > > > should not follow this practice.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > When I had cardiac rehab and had a session with the dietitian I was
>> > > > given a sheet with lists of foods to eat and foods to avoid. On the
>> > > > list
>> > > > of foods to eat it said fruit and, in big bold capital letters, NOT
>> > > > COCONUT.
>> > >
>> > > Coconut oil is in a weird space right now. It's trending and getting
>> > > popular and at the same time, people are calling it dangerous. My tip
>> > > is
>> > > not to eat popcorn at the movies. That stuff is popped in coconut
>> > > oil.
>> >
>> >
>> > Coconut "water" is a biggie thing, see it all around. I love coconut,
>> > but
>> > this does not appeal to me...
>> >
>> > I see "lowfat" coconut milk, does this simply mean it's regular, and
>> > diluted with water? I used a can of coco milk in the last batch of
>> > oatmeal I made...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best
>> > Greg

>>
>> Coconut juice/water is a bit nasty but the kids love it. They like the
>> one
>> with chunks of stuff in it. Some people call the water, "milk." The stuff
>> with the high fat content is coconut "cream." Some people call the
>> coconut
>> cream, "milk." There's a general state of confusion as to what to call
>> all
>> the fluids that come from the coconut. My guess is that the lowfat stuff
>> is
>> coconut cream with the fat removed but your guess is as good as mine.
>> When I
>> buy coconut cream, I look for the can with the highest fat content. Looks
>> like I'm dead meat.
>>
>> I have tried low-fat condensed coconut milk. Oddly enough it sorta tastes
>> like regular condensed milk.
>>
>> ========
>>
>> I like whipped coconut cream better than regular whipped cream on most
>> things, and use it often. I'll have to take my chances with it and
>> kicking
>> the bucket anytime soon. ;-)
>>
>> Cheri

>
> I like your attitude.


Well, as I've often said...if I die today, I didn't die young.

Cheri


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