On 2017-01-07, Dave Smith > wrote:

> I know they are constantly re-filling the bins in the Bulk
> Barn......

I've never seen a "barn" worthy of buying much of anything. Usta be a
Drug Barn, Booze Barn, etc, in CA. They're all gone.

nb

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 15:42:27 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>U.S. Janet B. wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:39:00 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 23:47:27 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 17:43:52 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 10:39:27 -0700, U.S. Janet B.
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 12:09:11 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Alan Holbrook wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > What's the shelf life of the various herbs and spices?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Depends on several factors; which ones, whether whole or
>> > > > > > ground, and where/how stored. The most important
>> > > > > > longiviety feature is from where purchased. Many
>> > > > > > merchants, especially those selling bulk, take no
>> > > > > > precautions for maintaining freshness, their products are
>> > > > > > stored in large open cannisters and are handled by the
>> > > > > > public with unwashed hands... like feeding from a gross
>> > > > > > salad bar.. those products are already damaged when
>> > > > > > purchased. The reliable merchants store their products in
>> > > > > > controlled humidors and are handled/processed/packaged by
>> > > > > > trained employees.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > Again, I have to ask. Where the heck do you shop that you
>> > > > > are exposed to such awful conditions for food? Apparently
>> > > > > the hinterland of New York is uncivilized.
>> > > >
>> > > > Anywhere selling bulk where customers help themselves is highly
>> > > > unsanitary. I'll buy produce where folks help themselves
>> > > > because produce is easy to wash, but herbs and spices can't be
>> > > > washed.
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > Having to discard a good portion of stuff because its
>> > > > > > > lost its potency over time would have some effect on the
>> > > > > > > actual price.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > And negatively affect the dish in which they're used,
>> > > > > > therefore wasting all other ingredients in the dish. I've
>> > > > > > found that with purchasing herbs and spices "You get what
>> > > > > > you pay for" is a maxim to believe. The few pennies more
>> > > > > > for quality product is well worth the expense, store in
>> > > > > > tight lidded glass jars away from heat and light, and
>> > > > > > freeze excess.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Herbs? I've only heard you say which herbs taste like the
>> > > > > underside of your lawnmower.
>> > > >
>> > > > That would be mint, I have patches of peppermint and spearmint
>> > > > in my lawn, I despise mint... I won't use mint toothpaste, my
>> > > > favorite is Tom's of Maine fennel flavored.
>> > > >
>> > > > > I don't believe you use herbs . . . spices yes,
>> > > > > but no herbs.
>> > > > > Janet US
>> > > >
>> > > > I use lots of herbs but I won't buy them from a public bulk bin
>> > > > where the entire world dips in with their scuzzy paws... I
>> > > > don't want those even for free. I buy institutional sizes from
>> > > > BJs and some blends from Penzys that I can't buy anywhere else.
>> > > > I don't comprehend the logic of buying a $20 roast and
>> > > > sprinkling it with four cents worth of stale scuzzy bulk spices.
>> > >
>> > > None of my shops have bulk that allows dipping. It's all drop
>> > > down from a release door into a bag you hold beneath the door.
>> > > You live around some pretty old fashioned stuff. I usually have
>> > > to wait behind the employee that is refilling the bulk bins.
>> > > Sometimes they are filled twice daily. My shops know their
>> > > customers well and don't stock stuff that doesn't move.
>> > > Janet US
>> >
>> > I've never seen such a contraption, all I've seen anywhere are like
>> > 1 gallon slant top cannisters with a small scoop. The BJs I shop
>> > has a large section that contains institutional sized containers of
>> > spices and herbs, all sealed with tamper proof lids, those are what
>> > I buy and keep in my freezer for refilling my small jars. Buying
>> > these costs about half Penzey's prices and they have a large turn
>> > over as many restaurants buy the
>> > http://i65.tinypic.com/2qvdx84.jpg
>> > The tall rectangular containers don't waste storage space.
>>
>> However, one great big caveat . . . you can't beat Penzey's for the
>> tastiest, largest, freshest smelling bay leaves.
>> Janet US
>
>Maybe, but I no longer shop there after their highly unprofessional use
>of customer emails accounts (there to track shippage) to call 50% of
>the USA 'racists' if they voted a particular way in the presidential
>election. They didnt do that once, they did it 3 times before I cut
>all services.
>
>I am happy with Savory Spices now.

you explained your racist views last month on this subject. Once you
alerted me to it I went out and ordered a bunch of Christmas presents
from Penzeys.
Thank you again.
Janet US

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 11:40:10 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 12:39:07 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 23:47:27 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 17:43:52 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 10:39:27 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 12:09:11 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Alan Holbrook wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>What's the shelf life of the various herbs and spices?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Depends on several factors; which ones, whether whole or ground, and
>> >>>>where/how stored. The most important longiviety feature is from where
>> >>>>purchased. Many merchants, especially those selling bulk, take no
>> >>>>precautions for maintaining freshness, their products are stored in
>> >>>>large open cannisters and are handled by the public with unwashed
>> >>>>hands... like feeding from a gross salad bar.. those products are
>> >>>>already damaged when purchased. The reliable merchants store their
>> >>>>products in controlled humidors and are handled/processed/packaged by
>> >>>>trained employees.
>> >>>>
>> >>>Again, I have to ask. Where the heck do you shop that you are exposed
>> >>>to such awful conditions for food? Apparently the hinterland of New
>> >>>York is uncivilized.
>> >>
>> >>Anywhere selling bulk where customers help themselves is highly
>> >>unsanitary. I'll buy produce where folks help themselves because
>> >>produce is easy to wash, but herbs and spices can't be washed.
>> >>
>> >>>>>Having to discard a good portion of stuff because its lost its potency
>> >>>>>over time would have some effect on the actual price.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>And negatively affect the dish in which they're used, therefore
>> >>>>wasting all other ingredients in the dish. I've found that with
>> >>>>purchasing herbs and spices "You get what you pay for" is a maxim to
>> >>>>believe. The few pennies more for quality product is well worth the
>> >>>>expense, store in tight lidded glass jars away from heat and light,
>> >>>>and freeze excess.
>> >>>
>> >>>Herbs? I've only heard you say which herbs taste like the underside
>> >>>of your lawnmower.
>> >>
>> >>That would be mint, I have patches of peppermint and spearmint in my
>> >>lawn, I despise mint... I won't use mint toothpaste, my favorite is
>> >>Tom's of Maine fennel flavored.
>> >>
>> >>>I don't believe you use herbs . . . spices yes,
>> >>>but no herbs.
>> >>>Janet US
>> >>
>> >>I use lots of herbs but I won't buy them from a public bulk bin where
>> >>the entire world dips in with their scuzzy paws... I don't want those
>> >>even for free. I buy institutional sizes from BJs and some blends
>> >>from Penzys that I can't buy anywhere else. I don't comprehend the
>> >>logic of buying a $20 roast and sprinkling it with four cents worth of
>> >>stale scuzzy bulk spices.
>> >
>> >None of my shops have bulk that allows dipping. It's all drop down
>> >from a release door into a bag you hold beneath the door. You live
>> >around some pretty old fashioned stuff. I usually have to wait behind
>> >the employee that is refilling the bulk bins. Sometimes they are
>> >filled twice daily. My shops know their customers well and don't
>> >stock stuff that doesn't move.
>> >Janet US
>>
>> I've never seen such a contraption, all I've seen anywhere are like 1
>> gallon slant top cannisters with a small scoop. The BJs I shop has a
>> large section that contains institutional sized containers of spices
>> and herbs, all sealed with tamper proof lids, those are what I buy and
>> keep in my freezer for refilling my small jars. Buying these costs
>> about half Penzey's prices and they have a large turn over as many
>> restaurants buy the
>> http://i65.tinypic.com/2qvdx84.jpg
>> The tall rectangular containers don't waste storage space.
>
>Even the little Middle Eastern market across from my office has
>these:
>
><http://www.canstockphoto.com/bulk-food-dispenser-8504799.html>
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Yup. that's very much like what my stores have.
Janet US

On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 11:46:43 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:00:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday
> > > where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
> > > I was out of a few things and running low on others.
> > >
> > > It's only 1/4 mile away so I just walked it for some exercise.
> > >
> > > Great prices there and the stuff is very fresh. It's replaced
> > > constantly. Very low cost too vs the stale grocery store spices.
> > >
> > > I got 10 different herbs and spices. Got tons of it and it
> > > was only $12. Note, their price per pound is about 1/5
> > > of the grocery store prices, like McCormick, etc.
> > >
> > > Anyway, once home, I just set the bag on my kitchen counter.
> > > Came back into the kitchen a few minutes later and it had
> > > a very strong smell of fresh dried herbs/spice.
> > >
> > > Now to transfer it all from the little plastic bags into
> > > old spice jars that I have.
> > >
> > > Note to Carol: you should check this place out sometime.
> > > It might be better than ordering spices/herbs.
> > > It's local, replaced very often, and fresh as can be.
> > > http://heritagestore.com/
> >
> > I'm a happy Hawaiian cook. We never learned to cook with very many
> > herbs and spices. If I want to make spaghetti sauce, I'll reach for a
> > big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. If I want to make pizza,
> > I use the big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. I don't know
> > what the heck is in that big container but it tastes Italianish. To
> > make chili, I use cumin and SS seasoning. In that case, it tastes
> > Mexicanish.
>
> Gary, we have. WAY TOO LIMITED stock for us at that store. It's been
> checked out already. DS1, noted that in Hawaii, spices are not at the
> forfront much.
>
> --

Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese. They go hog wild with herbs, spices, barks, fungus, preserved fruits, meats, eggs. My guess is that their culture did not originate on Earth.

U.S. Janet B. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 15:42:27 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >
> > Maybe, but I no longer shop there after their highly unprofessional
> > use of customer emails accounts (there to track shippage) to call
> > 50% of the USA 'racists' if they voted a particular way in the
> > presidential election. They didnt do that once, they did it 3
> > times before I cut all services.
> >
> > I am happy with Savory Spices now.
>
> you explained your racist views last month on this subject. Once you
> alerted me to it I went out and ordered a bunch of Christmas presents
> from Penzeys.
> Thank you again.
> Janet US

Janet, it was not my racist views. Penzey's said unless you voted for
a particualr presidental candidate, you were a racist. If you are
happy working with a company that uses the collective email for
tracking orders, in an unprofessional way like that, then by all means,
have joy with them. Me, I not only objected to the politcal stance
(regardless of who I or any voted for, it was rude). but I objected to
the unprofessional use of my email account.




--

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:38:14 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese.

Huh? Indonesians and Malaysians are very much into herbs and spices:
laos, ketumbar, djintan, kunjit, sereh, galangal, etc. Indians are
also very much into herbs and spices.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:03:25 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 1/7/2017 2:20 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> >> Buying these costs
> >> about half Penzey's prices and they have a large turn over as many
> >> restaurants buy the
> >> http://i65.tinypic.com/2qvdx84.jpg
> >> The tall rectangular containers don't waste storage space.
> >
> > However, one great big caveat . . . you can't beat Penzey's for the
> > tastiest, largest, freshest smelling bay leaves.
> > Janet US
> >
>
> We do buy some of the containers and have good results with garlic
> powder, onion powder, but 75% of what we buy is Penzeys. We know it is
> as good as available anywhere.

Her point is that the big containers stay fresh if it's something you
use often. Seems like a waste of money to keep replacing tiny
containers of granulated garlic at Penzy's sizes and prices. Just
looked at Costco online price and it's not worth that either. 18 oz
is around $5 inside the store. I was there yesterday. Looked at that
product and wasn't shocked by the price. For fresh French Thyme, I go
to Trader Joe's and it's $2... oregano is the same price.

I am not a bay leaf lover, so I don't care. I can buy fresh or buy it
dried in a blister pack at the Latino market. It's the same to me.


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On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 15:36:24 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

> Yup. that's very much like what my stores have.
> Janet US

I have all sorts here. Whole Foods has double rows of those
dispensers. Safeway has them on top and bins on the bottom row.
Rainbow has HUGE apothecary jars (and the contents are refilled often
- they get a LOT of business).


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"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 11:46:43 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:00:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday
> > > where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
> > > I was out of a few things and running low on others.
> > >
> > > It's only 1/4 mile away so I just walked it for some exercise.
> > >
> > > Great prices there and the stuff is very fresh. It's replaced
> > > constantly. Very low cost too vs the stale grocery store spices.
> > >
> > > I got 10 different herbs and spices. Got tons of it and it
> > > was only $12. Note, their price per pound is about 1/5
> > > of the grocery store prices, like McCormick, etc.
> > >
> > > Anyway, once home, I just set the bag on my kitchen counter.
> > > Came back into the kitchen a few minutes later and it had
> > > a very strong smell of fresh dried herbs/spice.
> > >
> > > Now to transfer it all from the little plastic bags into
> > > old spice jars that I have.
> > >
> > > Note to Carol: you should check this place out sometime.
> > > It might be better than ordering spices/herbs.
> > > It's local, replaced very often, and fresh as can be.
> > > http://heritagestore.com/
> >
> > I'm a happy Hawaiian cook. We never learned to cook with very many
> > herbs and spices. If I want to make spaghetti sauce, I'll reach for a
> > big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. If I want to make pizza,
> > I use the big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. I don't know
> > what the heck is in that big container but it tastes Italianish. To
> > make chili, I use cumin and SS seasoning. In that case, it tastes
> > Mexicanish.
>
> Gary, we have. WAY TOO LIMITED stock for us at that store. It's been
> checked out already. DS1, noted that in Hawaii, spices are not at the
> forfront much.
>
> --

Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese. They go hog
wild with herbs, spices, barks, fungus, preserved fruits, meats, eggs. My
guess is that their culture did not originate on Earth.

===========

I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese
....


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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "dsi1" wrote:
> Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese. They go hog
> wild with herbs, spices, barks, fungus, preserved fruits, meats, eggs. My
> guess is that their culture did not originate on Earth.
>
> ===========
>
> I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese
> ...

You don't use spices? How about herbs? wth?

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "dsi1" wrote:
> Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese. They go hog
> wild with herbs, spices, barks, fungus, preserved fruits, meats, eggs. My
> guess is that their culture did not originate on Earth.
>
> ===========
>
> I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese
> ...

You don't use spices? How about herbs? wth?

===

Oh yes, I grow and cook with herbs)



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On 2017-01-08 1:51 AM, sf wrote:

> Her point is that the big containers stay fresh if it's something you
> use often. Seems like a waste of money to keep replacing tiny
> containers of granulated garlic at Penzy's sizes and prices. Just
> looked at Costco online price and it's not worth that either. 18 oz
> is around $5 inside the store.

I store my herbs and spices in stainless canisters from Lee Valley,
which hold 3.3 fluid oz. I replace granulated garlic frequently
because it hardens into chunks after a while. I can buy enough at Bulk
Barn to refill the canister for about 50 cents.

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 22:51:37 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:03:25 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2017 2:20 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> >> Buying these costs
>> >> about half Penzey's prices and they have a large turn over as many
>> >> restaurants buy the
>> >> http://i65.tinypic.com/2qvdx84.jpg
>> >> The tall rectangular containers don't waste storage space.
>> >
>> > However, one great big caveat . . . you can't beat Penzey's for the
>> > tastiest, largest, freshest smelling bay leaves.
>> > Janet US
>> >
>>
>> We do buy some of the containers and have good results with garlic
>> powder, onion powder, but 75% of what we buy is Penzeys. We know it is
>> as good as available anywhere.
>
>Her point is that the big containers stay fresh if it's something you
>use often.

I keep those large containers in the freezr, they keep fresh for many
years... I've never had any go bad before using it all.

>Seems like a waste of money to keep replacing tiny
>containers of granulated garlic at Penzy's sizes and prices.

Penzeys sells granulated garlic in several sizes up to one pound,
which is how I used to buy it. Their packaging is better than those
rectangular plastic containers, Penzeys uses zip-locs made of
something like mylar, takes very little freezer space and collapses
smaller as it's used. However now I buy the large containers at BJs
as it's half Penzeys price and I think it's just as good. I've never
been in a Penzeys store, I've always ordered by phone. Penzeys prices
used to be reasonable but now they are outrageous... I suppose that
occurs once a company makes a name for itself.

>Just looked at Costco online price and it's not worth that either. 18 oz
>is around $5 inside the store. I was there yesterday. Looked at that
>product and wasn't shocked by the price. For fresh French Thyme, I go
>to Trader Joe's and it's $2... oregano is the same price.
>
>I am not a bay leaf lover, so I don't care. I can buy fresh or buy it
>dried in a blister pack at the Latino market. It's the same to me.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:23:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 11:46:43 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:00:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> > > I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday
>> > > where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
>> > > I was out of a few things and running low on others.
>> > >
>> > > It's only 1/4 mile away so I just walked it for some exercise.
>> > >
>> > > Great prices there and the stuff is very fresh. It's replaced
>> > > constantly. Very low cost too vs the stale grocery store spices.
>> > >
>> > > I got 10 different herbs and spices. Got tons of it and it
>> > > was only $12. Note, their price per pound is about 1/5
>> > > of the grocery store prices, like McCormick, etc.
>> > >
>> > > Anyway, once home, I just set the bag on my kitchen counter.
>> > > Came back into the kitchen a few minutes later and it had
>> > > a very strong smell of fresh dried herbs/spice.
>> > >
>> > > Now to transfer it all from the little plastic bags into
>> > > old spice jars that I have.
>> > >
>> > > Note to Carol: you should check this place out sometime.
>> > > It might be better than ordering spices/herbs.
>> > > It's local, replaced very often, and fresh as can be.
>> > > http://heritagestore.com/
>> >
>> > I'm a happy Hawaiian cook. We never learned to cook with very many
>> > herbs and spices. If I want to make spaghetti sauce, I'll reach for a
>> > big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. If I want to make pizza,
>> > I use the big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. I don't know
>> > what the heck is in that big container but it tastes Italianish. To
>> > make chili, I use cumin and SS seasoning. In that case, it tastes
>> > Mexicanish.
>>
>> Gary, we have. WAY TOO LIMITED stock for us at that store. It's been
>> checked out already. DS1, noted that in Hawaii, spices are not at the
>> forfront much.
>>
>> --
>
>Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese. They go hog
>wild with herbs, spices, barks, fungus, preserved fruits, meats, eggs. My
>guess is that their culture did not originate on Earth.
>
>===========
>
>I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese

Maybe because you're a frugal Scot... my ex MIL was very frugal, she
never had any herbs/spices, in fact she didn't even have s n'p. There
was no coffee either, and she could get ten cups from one tea bag. I'd
tell her to keep tea bags in her bra and she'd go up a few sizes. lol

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 09:15:44 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-08 1:51 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> Her point is that the big containers stay fresh if it's something you
>> use often. Seems like a waste of money to keep replacing tiny
>> containers of granulated garlic at Penzy's sizes and prices. Just
>> looked at Costco online price and it's not worth that either. 18 oz
>> is around $5 inside the store.
>
>I store my herbs and spices in stainless canisters from Lee Valley,
>which hold 3.3 fluid oz. I replace granulated garlic frequently
>because it hardens into chunks after a while. I can buy enough at Bulk
>Barn to refill the canister for about 50 cents.

I buy granulated garlic by the pound and keep it frozen, I keep
refilling a very small jar that sits in my spice cupboard. I've never
had any clumping, I put those dessicant capsules one finds in medicine
bottles in the container. Those ss containers from Lee Valley are
cute but they definitely don't seal well, they were designed for
storing small parts... I use small jars with screw on caps, and if
needed I add a gasket... rubberized cork gasket material is cheap at
any auto supply store.

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:23:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 11:46:43 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:00:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> > > I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday
>> > > where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
>> > > I was out of a few things and running low on others.
>> > >
>> > > It's only 1/4 mile away so I just walked it for some exercise.
>> > >
>> > > Great prices there and the stuff is very fresh. It's replaced
>> > > constantly. Very low cost too vs the stale grocery store spices.
>> > >
>> > > I got 10 different herbs and spices. Got tons of it and it
>> > > was only $12. Note, their price per pound is about 1/5
>> > > of the grocery store prices, like McCormick, etc.
>> > >
>> > > Anyway, once home, I just set the bag on my kitchen counter.
>> > > Came back into the kitchen a few minutes later and it had
>> > > a very strong smell of fresh dried herbs/spice.
>> > >
>> > > Now to transfer it all from the little plastic bags into
>> > > old spice jars that I have.
>> > >
>> > > Note to Carol: you should check this place out sometime.
>> > > It might be better than ordering spices/herbs.
>> > > It's local, replaced very often, and fresh as can be.
>> > > http://heritagestore.com/
>> >
>> > I'm a happy Hawaiian cook. We never learned to cook with very many
>> > herbs and spices. If I want to make spaghetti sauce, I'll reach for a
>> > big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. If I want to make pizza,
>> > I use the big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. I don't know
>> > what the heck is in that big container but it tastes Italianish. To
>> > make chili, I use cumin and SS seasoning. In that case, it tastes
>> > Mexicanish.
>>
>> Gary, we have. WAY TOO LIMITED stock for us at that store. It's been
>> checked out already. DS1, noted that in Hawaii, spices are not at the
>> forfront much.
>>
>> --
>
>Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese. They go hog
>wild with herbs, spices, barks, fungus, preserved fruits, meats, eggs. My
>guess is that their culture did not originate on Earth.
>
>===========
>
>I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese

Maybe because you're a frugal Scot... my ex MIL was very frugal, she
never had any herbs/spices, in fact she didn't even have s n'p. There
was no coffee either, and she could get ten cups from one tea bag. I'd
tell her to keep tea bags in her bra and she'd go up a few sizes. lol

===

Well, actually, I am not a Scot ... <g>



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On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:10:28 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
snip
>
>I keep those large containers in the freezr, they keep fresh for many
>years... I've never had any go bad before using it all.
>
snip
herbs and spices don't go bad, they just go
Janet US

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:23:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:
snip
>
>I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese
>...

no cinnamon or cloves or the like?
Janet US

On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:38:43 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:10:28 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
> snip
> >
> >I keep those large containers in the freezr, they keep fresh for many
> >years... I've never had any go bad before using it all.
> >
> snip
> herbs and spices don't go bad, they just go
> Janet US

I had some Aleppo pepper get moldy. I keep it in the freezer now.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2017-01-08 7:15 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-08 1:51 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> Her point is that the big containers stay fresh if it's something you
>> use often. Seems like a waste of money to keep replacing tiny
>> containers of granulated garlic at Penzy's sizes and prices. Just
>> looked at Costco online price and it's not worth that either. 18 oz
>> is around $5 inside the store.
>
> I store my herbs and spices in stainless canisters from Lee Valley,
> which hold 3.3 fluid oz. I replace granulated garlic frequently
> because it hardens into chunks after a while. I can buy enough at Bulk
> Barn to refill the canister for about 50 cents.
>
>
I store mine in the freezer. They seem to keep well that way.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:23:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:
snip
>
>I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese
>...

no cinnamon or cloves or the like?
Janet US

===

No He won't eat them. Although I have to say that cinnamon is a big no
no for either of us! I don't mind some mild spices but I don't use them for
obvious reasons <g>

I make enough good food to please us both, so it isn't so important

I do love herbs though

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On 1/8/2017 11:10 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> I've never been in a Penzeys store, I've always ordered by phone.

Walking into a Penzey's store is a real treat! They opened one in
Germantown, TN which is an incorporated city right outside the Memphis
city limit. The OP was talking about how the herbs and spices scented
his kitchen. Penzey's stores smell heavenly! I agree with you about
the price. They were never exactly cheap but they have definitely gone
through the roof. I don't order from them anymore.

Jill

On 2017-01-12, jmcquown > wrote:

> I agree with you about the price. They were never exactly cheap but
> they have definitely gone through the roof. I don't order from them
> anymore.

They were never that great, now they totally suck!

The do NOT even carry Sichuan peppers, anymore. Jes Sichuan Pepper
Salt, WTF that is. 8|

nb

On 12 Jan 2017 15:16:30 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-01-12, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> I agree with you about the price. They were never exactly cheap but
>> they have definitely gone through the roof. I don't order from them
>> anymore.
>
>They were never that great, now they totally suck!
>
>The do NOT even carry Sichuan peppers, anymore. Jes Sichuan Pepper
>Salt, WTF that is. 8|
>
>nb

It's my understanding that there is some sort of government import
restriction regarding heat treating? Something like that.
Janet US

On 1/12/2017 11:37 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On 12 Jan 2017 15:16:30 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-01-12, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with you about the price. They were never exactly cheap but
>>> they have definitely gone through the roof. I don't order from them
>>> anymore.
>>
>> They were never that great, now they totally suck!
>>
>> The do NOT even carry Sichuan peppers, anymore. Jes Sichuan Pepper
>> Salt, WTF that is. 8|
>>
>> nb
>
> It's my understanding that there is some sort of government import
> restriction regarding heat treating? Something like that.
> Janet US
>
Probably so, Janet. Then again, I've never been much interested in
Sichuan pepper.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I've never been in a Penzeys store, I've always ordered by phone.
>
>Walking into a Penzey's store is a real treat! They opened one in
>Germantown, TN which is an incorporated city right outside the Memphis
>city limit. The OP was talking about how the herbs and spices scented
>his kitchen. Penzey's stores smell heavenly! I agree with you about
>the price. They were never exactly cheap but they have definitely gone
>through the roof. I don't order from them anymore.

For the past couple of years I only order a few of their blends
because I can't buy them elsewhere. There's a Penzeys store in the
Albany mall but I've never been and and have no desire. If their
stores smell of spices it's only because they are opening packages and
sprinkling them about, when properly packaged there would be no smell.
Years ago when I placed an order there would be a few whole loose
spices in the carton making is smell like a pomander but they no
longer do that, now their cartons only smell of cardboard. Perhaps
the post office complained that the aroma interfered with the
drug/bomb sniffing dogs.

notbob wrote:
>jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I agree with you about the price. They were never exactly cheap but
>> they have definitely gone through the roof. I don't order from them
>> anymore.
>
>They were never that great, now they totally suck!
>
>The do NOT even carry Sichuan peppers, anymore. Jes Sichuan Pepper
>Salt, WTF that is. 8|

Szechuan peppercorns is still listed in their catalogue, still offered
at their web site but you need to spell it correctly:
https://www.penzeys.com/online-catal...24/p-1415/pd-s
Penzeys products are excellent however their prices have gone up out
of sight... I also don't care to be bombarded with their ultra liberal
political views regarding faggots.

On 2017-01-12, U.S Janet B > wrote:

> It's my understanding that there is some sort of government import
> restriction regarding heat treating? Something like that.

They restricted importing Sezchuan peppers cuz they feared it would
introduce a citrus canker and wipe out the orange juice industry. That
restriction was revoked over 10 yrs ago.

Still, places like San Francisco Spice Company continued to substitute
black pepper for Sezchuan peppers (which aren't really peppers) in
their 5 spice blend. Prolly cuz black ppr is cheaper. 8|

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sichua....S._import_ban

nb

On 1/12/2017 12:00 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> I've never been in a Penzeys store, I've always ordered by phone.
>>
>> Walking into a Penzey's store is a real treat! They opened one in
>> Germantown, TN which is an incorporated city right outside the Memphis
>> city limit. The OP was talking about how the herbs and spices scented
>> his kitchen. Penzey's stores smell heavenly! I agree with you about
>> the price. They were never exactly cheap but they have definitely gone
>> through the roof. I don't order from them anymore.
>
> For the past couple of years I only order a few of their blends
> because I can't buy them elsewhere. There's a Penzeys store in the
> Albany mall but I've never been and and have no desire. If their
> stores smell of spices it's only because they are opening packages and
> sprinkling them about,

That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
flower shop except these are herbs and spices.

It's designed to entice. It smelled great on purpose. Sorry if you
don't like that sort of thing.

Jill

> when properly packaged there would be no smell.
> Years ago when I placed an order there would be a few whole loose
> spices in the carton making is smell like a pomander but they no
> longer do that, now their cartons only smell of cardboard. Perhaps
> the post office complained that the aroma interfered with the
> drug/bomb sniffing dogs.
>

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/12/2017 12:00 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've never been in a Penzeys store, I've always ordered by phone.
>>>
>>> Walking into a Penzey's store is a real treat! They opened one in
>>> Germantown, TN which is an incorporated city right outside the Memphis
>>> city limit. The OP was talking about how the herbs and spices scented
>>> his kitchen. Penzey's stores smell heavenly! I agree with you about
>>> the price. They were never exactly cheap but they have definitely gone
>>> through the roof. I don't order from them anymore.
>>
>> For the past couple of years I only order a few of their blends
>> because I can't buy them elsewhere. There's a Penzeys store in the
>> Albany mall but I've never been and and have no desire. If their
>> stores smell of spices it's only because they are opening packages and
>> sprinkling them about,
>
>That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
>fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
>flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>
>It's designed to entice. It smelled great on purpose. Sorry if you
>don't like that sort of thing.

I didn't say I don't like it... it's simply not going to lure me to
drive the 60 mile round trip to see their store. I've already got
plenty of their spices if I feel like sniffing. Besides when phoning
in my order directly to their main plant I get fresher product than
from their stores, who knows how long it's sitting there. They also
send along lots of samples, I always ask for what samples they have
and I choose the ones I will use... last time they had cilantro as one
of their samples, I refused that one as to me it tastes like soap. But
they sent me four samples, in very nice glass jars with screw tops;
minced garlic 0.4 oz, aleppo pepper 0.8 oz, pizza seasoning 0.5 oz.
salsa & pico 1.7 oz. I already used up the pizza seasoning, I like it
better than their Italian herb blend because it contains no rosemary
(pinesol). Their salsa & pico is excellent sprinkled on tomatoes.

>> when properly packaged there would be no smell.
>> Years ago when I placed an order there would be a few whole loose
>> spices in the carton making is smell like a pomander but they no
>> longer do that, now their cartons only smell of cardboard. Perhaps
>> the post office complained that the aroma interfered with the
>> drug/bomb sniffing dogs.
>>

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> it contains no rosemary (pinesol).

lol! I have to agree with you there, sheldon.
It really does taste that way. I never use it.
sadly, that's the one herb that grows best here.

Also, if you use it dried, it's like little splinter sticks
in your food. Like dried up pine needles. Better to grind it up
a bit if you insist on using it.

Again though, I still have some but probably won't use it.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
> fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
> flower shop except these are herbs and spices.

That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.


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On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:59:45 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>> That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
>> fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
>> flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>
>That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.

candle shops, bakery shops, spice shops, it's all good for the
senses.
Janet US

On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
> > fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
> > flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>
> That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.

Scented candles are one of the things I'll outlaw when
I'm Queen of the Universe.

Cindy Hamilton

On 1/12/2017 12:23 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I painstakenly remove all the seeds before I use them
> (PITA).

You pull turds out your arse and suck on them.

On 1/13/2017 12:47 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> it's all good for the
> senses.
> Janet US

Why did you post a pic of your daughter being groped by Klintoon and
pretend it was YOU?

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:59:03 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
>> > fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
>> > flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>>
>> That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.
>
>Scented candles are one of the things I'll outlaw when
>I'm Queen of the Universe.

Thanks! I hate scented candles too.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:59:03 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
>> > fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
>> > flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>>
>> That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.
>
>Scented candles are one of the things I'll outlaw when
>I'm Queen of the Universe.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I'll vote for you!

On 1/13/2017 8:48 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> last time they had cilantro as one
> of their samples, I refused that one as to me it tastes like soap.


U have the taste buds of a ****ing Cossack!

On 2017-01-13 2:59 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>>
>> That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.
>
> Scented candles are one of the things I'll outlaw when
> I'm Queen of the Universe.
>

Please extend that ban to perfume and aftershave that can be smelled
more than 4 feet from the person wearing it.