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Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-01-07 2:12 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 1/6/2017 7:28 AM, wrote:
> > > > > What is that pungent after-taste that stays with you once you
> > > > > prepare and have a can of spaghetti or ravioli?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Don't remember. It has been over 50 years since I had a taste
> > > > of that horrid stuff. Make pasta with a jarred sauce if you
> > > > want easy and acceptable taste.
> > >
> > > I haven't eaten canned spaghetti in about 40 years. I did eat it
> > > occasionally in my early twenties though when I just wanted a
> > > quick filler and didn't worry about taste. I do remember though
> > > that it's better eaten cold right out of the can. If you heat it
> > > up, it gets too soupy (watery).
> > >
> > > Canned ravioli, I'll buy on sale sometimes when hurricane season
> > > is approaching. Just for backup food that needs no refrigeration
> > > or even heat to eat.
> > >
> > > I've never noticed any "pungent after-taste" though. You either
> > > like the canned stuff or you don't.
> > >
> > > IMO, canned meals are good for emergency situations (like no
> > > power). I rarely buy any canned meals these days except for that.

> >
> > Well, Hampton Roads is petty much snowed in as you know (others may
> > or may not know).
> >
> > It was utterly INSANE at Harris Teeters on Thursday. I went
> > because of the super double coupons to 2$ (and expected the crazy
> > folks to wait until Friday to get stupid with 5gallons of milk for
> > a 3 day event).
> >
> > Instead I got one of the last 3 carts and after that, folks were
> > waiting in the parking lot for people to come out with one.
> >
> > It was fairly hilarous watching folks stock up as if it would be a
> > month before the stores would be open.

>
>
> Sometimes is is amusing enough to see what people in that area and
> south think of as being snowed in, so I had to check it out. It
> turns out that they got 5-8". That would not be enough to shut us
> down but it is a heck of a lot more than it usually takes to wreak
> havoc there.


Yup, key knowledge point is they do not sell snow tires here and only
the interstates get treated. They lack gear to clear the rest. In 2
days, they will start trying to salt and sand the major other roads.
They will not get to any side roads.

It's still snowing BTW. Might not be a blizzard right now but it's
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On 2017-01-07 5:00 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>> On 2017-01-07 2:12 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>

avoc there.
>
> Yup, key knowledge point is they do not sell snow tires here and only
> the interstates get treated. They lack gear to clear the rest. In 2
> days, they will start trying to salt and sand the major other roads.
> They will not get to any side roads.


Snow tires are not an essential. All season radials with lots of tread
left are as good as most snow tires. Up here they salt the roads at the
beginning of a storm and that helps to create the "brine sandwich" that
stops the snow from sticking to the road. When you get wet snow near the
freezing point it tends to pack down quickly making it especially
slippery. Plows will ride on top of it instead of pushing it off the
road. Snow tires don't help in that stuff.


>
> It's still snowing BTW. Might not be a blizzard right now but it's
> pretty thick.


That could make things treacherous for a while.





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On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:37:02 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/7/2017 3:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Sometimes is is amusing enough to see what people in that area and south
>> think of as being snowed in, so I had to check it out. It turns out
>> that they got 5-8". That would not be enough to shut us down but it is
>> a heck of a lot more than it usually takes to wreak havoc there.
>>
>>

>
>When we had a plant in North Carolina, they would close with an inch or
>two of snow. they did not have the equipment to handle it or the
>practice to drive in it.
>
>Here in CT, if I can get out of my driveway, I can get anywhere. they
>do an excellent job with the roads. Equipment and experience road crews
>make a difference.


The National Guard is out helping my city and county plow to get snow
away from the drains in hope of preventing floods from the upcoming
rain at the beginning of the week. I'm amazed at how hysterical the
Weather Channel gets when North Carolina gets a couple of inches of
snow. Endless video of a couple of inches on the ground. But then,
anything west of the Mississippi doesn't exist for the Weather
Channel. They refer to us as "that part of the world."
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On 1/7/2017 4:58 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> Plows and sanders are not cheap to run. Unless you have enough to
> cover the whole town or city they aren't much use. If you only need them
> once every few years it might be cheaper for all concerned to just shut
> down for a day or two.
>
>


Few years back one town in the south had a guy in the back of a truck
spreading sand with a shovel. It was the first feeze in a dozen or so
yrars so no reason to have sanders.
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On 2017-01-07 5:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/7/2017 4:58 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Plows and sanders are not cheap to run. Unless you have enough to
>> cover the whole town or city they aren't much use. If you only need them
>> once every few years it might be cheaper for all concerned to just shut
>> down for a day or two.
>>
>>

>
> Few years back one town in the south had a guy in the back of a truck
> spreading sand with a shovel. It was the first feeze in a dozen or so
> yrars so no reason to have sanders.


That is the way it used to be done. I worked in highway maintenance back
in the 70s and some of the old guys on our crew got their start
shoveling sand and salt by hand.




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Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-01-07 5:00 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On 2017-01-07 2:12 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > > >

> avoc there.
> >
> > Yup, key knowledge point is they do not sell snow tires here and
> > only the interstates get treated. They lack gear to clear the
> > rest. In 2 days, they will start trying to salt and sand the major
> > other roads. They will not get to any side roads.

>
> Snow tires are not an essential. All season radials with lots of
> tread left are as good as most snow tires. Up here they salt the
> roads at the beginning of a storm and that helps to create the
> "brine sandwich" that stops the snow from sticking to the road. When
> you get wet snow near the freezing point it tends to pack down
> quickly making it especially slippery. Plows will ride on top of it
> instead of pushing it off the road. Snow tires don't help in that
> stuff.
>
>
> >
> > It's still snowing BTW. Might not be a blizzard right now but it's
> > pretty thick.

>
> That could make things treacherous for a while.


Yes. I think we finished out here at 11 inches in my area. Susan up
by Newtown rd said 12. Others are 8 or so mostly. Now the temp is
dropping to single digits but looks like Tuesday will be warmer than
expected so might get late arrival work that day?

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On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:37:02 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/7/2017 3:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Sometimes is is amusing enough to see what people in that area and south
>> think of as being snowed in, so I had to check it out. It turns out
>> that they got 5-8". That would not be enough to shut us down but it is
>> a heck of a lot more than it usually takes to wreak havoc there.
>>
>>

>
>When we had a plant in North Carolina, they would close with an inch or
>two of snow. they did not have the equipment to handle it or the
>practice to drive in it.
>
>Here in CT, if I can get out of my driveway, I can get anywhere. they
>do an excellent job with the roads. Equipment and experience road crews
>make a difference.


Same here, the Highway Department does an exccellent job of plowing
and salting/sanding the roads, they have huge equiptment. With my
tractor with the plow atached I can always get out.
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> wrote:

> Chef Boyardee prices are actually dropping. They used to be about
> $1.20/can and now they're down to $.85/$.90, sometimes less on sale.
> Store brand is $.75.
>
> Just like most fast food, I sometimes eat them for sustenance - not
> for flavor. I will always eat something else if it's readily
> available.


Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man might
add a salad. I'm not civilized. My wife won't touch the stuff.

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On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:20:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
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>In article >, Sqwertz
> wrote:
>
>> Chef Boyardee prices are actually dropping. They used to be about
>> $1.20/can and now they're down to $.85/$.90, sometimes less on sale.
>> Store brand is $.75.
>>
>> Just like most fast food, I sometimes eat them for sustenance - not
>> for flavor. I will always eat something else if it's readily
>> available.

>
>Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
>stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man might
>add a salad.


And an adult man might replace the milk.
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I always had studded snow tires when I was commuting (Iowa), and they are terrific.
In my own experience, new radials are not as useful as snow tires. Many people
who can't get up our hills in town, or are sliding all over, hear "radials" and think
any age radials will do. Nope, won't work.

We have many students here from other countries (and parts of this one) who have
never driven on snow and ice until they get their first taste of winter here. It is
pretty amusing to watch their antics...but one has to be a very good defensive driver
and be very watchful in traffic. ;-))

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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> >bruce2bowser wrote:
> >> What is that pungent after-taste that stays with you once you prepare and
> >> have a can of spaghetti or ravioli?

>
> Chemically that's known as TIAD.


lol OK, that one made me laugh for real. :-D
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On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:40:39 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:20:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, Sqwertz
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Chef Boyardee prices are actually dropping. They used to be about
> >> $1.20/can and now they're down to $.85/$.90, sometimes less on sale.
> >> Store brand is $.75.
> >>
> >> Just like most fast food, I sometimes eat them for sustenance - not
> >> for flavor. I will always eat something else if it's readily
> >> available.

> >
> >Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
> >stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man might
> >add a salad.

>
> And an adult man might replace the milk.


Why? It seems like a nostalgia meal to me. Milk is entirely
appropriate under those circumstances.

I only recently stopped drinking milk on Thanksgiving.

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On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 5:16:46 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-07 5:00 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >>> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>>
> >> On 2017-01-07 2:12 PM, cshenk wrote:


> >>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>

> avoc there.
> >
> > Yup, key knowledge point is they do not sell snow tires here and only
> > the interstates get treated. They lack gear to clear the rest. In 2
> > days, they will start trying to salt and sand the major other roads.
> > They will not get to any side roads.

>
> Snow tires are not an essential. All season radials with lots of tread
> left are as good as most snow tires. Up here they salt the roads at the
> beginning of a storm and that helps to create the "brine sandwich" that
> stops the snow from sticking to the road. When you get wet snow near the
> freezing point it tends to pack down quickly making it especially
> slippery. Plows will ride on top of it instead of pushing it off the
> road. Snow tires don't help in that stuff.


I haven't had snow tires in about three decades. Studded tires are
legal in Michigan, but apparently the specific tires have to be approved,
and no manufacture has sought approval, so they're essentially nonexistent.

Our roads are typically salted before a snowstorm, too. We often salt
the driveway before it snows.

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On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:10:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
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>On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 5:16:46 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-01-07 5:00 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >>> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >>>
>> >> On 2017-01-07 2:12 PM, cshenk wrote:

>
>> >>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>>>>

>> avoc there.
>> >
>> > Yup, key knowledge point is they do not sell snow tires here and only
>> > the interstates get treated. They lack gear to clear the rest. In 2
>> > days, they will start trying to salt and sand the major other roads.
>> > They will not get to any side roads.

>>
>> Snow tires are not an essential. All season radials with lots of tread
>> left are as good as most snow tires. Up here they salt the roads at the
>> beginning of a storm and that helps to create the "brine sandwich" that
>> stops the snow from sticking to the road. When you get wet snow near the
>> freezing point it tends to pack down quickly making it especially
>> slippery. Plows will ride on top of it instead of pushing it off the
>> road. Snow tires don't help in that stuff.

>
>I haven't had snow tires in about three decades. Studded tires are
>legal in Michigan, but apparently the specific tires have to be approved,
>and no manufacture has sought approval, so they're essentially nonexistent.
>
>Our roads are typically salted before a snowstorm, too. We often salt
>the driveway before it snows.
>
>Cindy Hamilton


We have too many hills here to risk not having snows on - when I moved
to town I wasn't going to bother with my then new car, first winter
out I found the all seasons totally inadequate, even if I stuck to bus
routes which get cleared first. I had thought if it snowed, I'd stay
home but that also didn't allow for being out already when it started.


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On 2017-01-08 8:10 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 5:16:46 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:


>> Snow tires are not an essential. All season radials with lots of tread
>> left are as good as most snow tires. Up here they salt the roads at the
>> beginning of a storm and that helps to create the "brine sandwich" that
>> stops the snow from sticking to the road. When you get wet snow near the
>> freezing point it tends to pack down quickly making it especially
>> slippery. Plows will ride on top of it instead of pushing it off the
>> road. Snow tires don't help in that stuff.

>
> I haven't had snow tires in about three decades. Studded tires are
> legal in Michigan, but apparently the specific tires have to be approved,
> and no manufacture has sought approval, so they're essentially nonexistent.
>



In Ontario, studded tires are allowed only in a few of the northern
regions, and can only be used between October and April. They are banned
in the southern because they do too much damage to the roads.


> Our roads are typically salted before a snowstorm, too. We often salt
> the driveway before it snows.


If the salt it not applied early there is no point in doing it. Once
the snow settles and gets packed down the plows will just ride up and
over the icy compact stuff and rather than scraping it off. Once the
roads have bee salted the rest of the work is done with sand and plays.
Sand provides traction, but there is some salt mixed with the sand to
stop it from freezing into big chunks.






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On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 22:14:50 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:20:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
>> In article >, Sqwertz
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Chef Boyardee prices are actually dropping. They used to be about
>>> $1.20/can and now they're down to $.85/$.90, sometimes less on sale.
>>> Store brand is $.75.
>>>
>>> Just like most fast food, I sometimes eat them for sustenance - not
>>> for flavor. I will always eat something else if it's readily
>>> available.

>>
>> Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
>> stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man might
>> add a salad. I'm not civilized. My wife won't touch the stuff.

>
>They have pop tops so you can just grab a spoon and go to town (store
>brand doesn't have pop tops). 4 out of 5 times I don't even bother
>heating them up (like I said, mostly for sustenance). What was really
>bad was their new-ish Chicken Alfredo. Maybe it tastes better when
>heated, but definitely no good at room temp. Spaghetti and meatballs
>and chili/cheesy mac or whatever are the best for eating out of the
>can. Ravioli is better heated up.
>
>-sw


Were I wanting to eat something cold from the tin it would never be
any Boyardee tasteless sludge and its clones (that's tasteless both
literally and figuratively), what kinda phreak eats that garbage, a
tin of vienna sausauge is classier.
I'd rather one of those oval tins of sardines in tomato sauce...
excellent with some diced onion and a spritz of lemon with a stack of
saltines... gotta have some class! When really desperate I'd scoff a
tin of Campbell's condencsed Manhatten Clam Chowder, goes well with a
liter of Gallo dago red (chianti) but it's been a very long time.
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 09:37:00 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2017-01-08 8:10 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 5:16:46 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

>
>>> Snow tires are not an essential. All season radials with lots of tread
>>> left are as good as most snow tires. Up here they salt the roads at the
>>> beginning of a storm and that helps to create the "brine sandwich" that
>>> stops the snow from sticking to the road. When you get wet snow near the
>>> freezing point it tends to pack down quickly making it especially
>>> slippery. Plows will ride on top of it instead of pushing it off the
>>> road. Snow tires don't help in that stuff.

>>
>> I haven't had snow tires in about three decades. Studded tires are
>> legal in Michigan, but apparently the specific tires have to be approved,
>> and no manufacture has sought approval, so they're essentially nonexistent.
>>

>
>
>In Ontario, studded tires are allowed only in a few of the northern
>regions, and can only be used between October and April. They are banned
>in the southern because they do too much damage to the roads.
>
>
>> Our roads are typically salted before a snowstorm, too. We often salt
>> the driveway before it snows.

>
>If the salt it not applied early there is no point in doing it. Once
>the snow settles and gets packed down the plows will just ride up and
>over the icy compact stuff and rather than scraping it off.


Your highway department needs better snow removal equipment. Here the
plow trucks are behemouth 20 tonners loaded with a mix of sand and
salt.... no matter how heavy a snow and how cold our roads are always
cleaned of all snow. Those beasts plow my road hourly.
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> Your highway department needs better snow removal equipment. Here the
> plow trucks are behemouth 20 tonners loaded with a mix of sand and
> salt.... no matter how heavy a snow and how cold our roads are always
> cleaned of all snow.


> Those beasts plow my road hourly.


No they don't.


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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> When really desperate I'd scoff a
> tin of Campbell's condenced Manhatten Clam Chowder, goes well with a
> liter of Gallo dago red (chianti) but it's been a very long time.


lol. By the time you down a liter of red wine, *any food* will taste
good.

If you like the Manhatten Clam chower AND the New England clam
chowder... try combining them both and having pink clam chowder. I
tried that once and I really liked it. I used the Pregresso versions
though - they are better than the Campbell's, imo.

I ate 1/2 can New England clam chowder
then 1/2 of the Manhatten clam chowder
then combined both extra halves for the pink clam chowder
It was a win.

Most times though, I'll make homemade clear clam chowder. It 'Donald
Trumps' both of the other kinds. hehhe
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:07:09 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
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>On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:40:39 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:20:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, Sqwertz
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Chef Boyardee prices are actually dropping. They used to be about
>> >> $1.20/can and now they're down to $.85/$.90, sometimes less on sale.
>> >> Store brand is $.75.
>> >>
>> >> Just like most fast food, I sometimes eat them for sustenance - not
>> >> for flavor. I will always eat something else if it's readily
>> >> available.
>> >
>> >Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
>> >stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man might
>> >add a salad.

>>
>> And an adult man might replace the milk.

>
>Why? It seems like a nostalgia meal to me. Milk is entirely
>appropriate under those circumstances.
>
>I only recently stopped drinking milk on Thanksgiving.


Adults don't eat baby food either.
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On 2017-01-08 11:17 AM, Gary wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Your highway department needs better snow removal equipment. Here the
>> plow trucks are behemouth 20 tonners loaded with a mix of sand and
>> salt.... no matter how heavy a snow and how cold our roads are always
>> cleaned of all snow.

>
>> Those beasts plow my road hourly.

>
> No they don't.
>


NY State has some huge plow contraptions that have an offset plow
trailer, but they don't do the road he lives on. Most plow trucks are
singe axle 5 ton trucks and there are some 6-7 ton trucks with dual
axles. They need to have a short wheel base in order to be able to
maneuver. Dual axle trucks do no turn as sharply as single axles, and
having a plow on the front makes it even harder.
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:17:21 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Your highway department needs better snow removal equipment. Here the
>> plow trucks are behemouth 20 tonners loaded with a mix of sand and
>> salt.... no matter how heavy a snow and how cold our roads are always
>> cleaned of all snow.

>
>> Those beasts plow my road hourly.

>
>No they don't.


Whenever there's a heavy snow they plow every hour. I live on a
county road that's a major school bus route for several districts so
they keep it clean. The county roads are kept far better than the
town roads. Other than school buses for about an hour twice a day my
road gets very little traffic, and during fall the over-loaded logging
trucks will occasionally sneak through in the wee morning hours...
which is how I got a new taller utility pole, those trucks were loaded
so high they'd rip apart the utility cables. It took three times
before the electric company believed me when I called and told them
about the logging trucks. The poles are all on the other side of the
road and the wire first goes to my pole, then to my house. The pole
that's on my property belongs to me, needs that pole as it's too long
a run from the road. The cable can't be buried as it crosses a creek.
I'm sure your plow trucks are like tonka toys compared with our
behmouths.
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On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:07:09 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:40:39 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:20:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article >, Sqwertz
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Chef Boyardee prices are actually dropping. They used to be about
> >> >> $1.20/can and now they're down to $.85/$.90, sometimes less on sale.
> >> >> Store brand is $.75.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just like most fast food, I sometimes eat them for sustenance - not
> >> >> for flavor. I will always eat something else if it's readily
> >> >> available.
> >> >
> >> >Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
> >> >stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man might
> >> >add a salad.
> >>
> >> And an adult man might replace the milk.

> >
> >Why? It seems like a nostalgia meal to me. Milk is entirely
> >appropriate under those circumstances.
> >
> >I only recently stopped drinking milk on Thanksgiving.

>
> Adults don't eat baby food either.


I bet there are some that do.

You write as if milk is not a tasty beverage, and a good source
of protein. I often drink milk if a meal is somewhat lacking
in protein, and if I eat something sweet between meals I usually
drink milk with it to mitigate the blood sugar crash.

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On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:49:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:07:09 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:40:39 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:20:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
>> >> >stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man might
>> >> >add a salad.
>> >>
>> >> And an adult man might replace the milk.
>> >
>> >Why? It seems like a nostalgia meal to me. Milk is entirely
>> >appropriate under those circumstances.
>> >
>> >I only recently stopped drinking milk on Thanksgiving.

>>
>> Adults don't eat baby food either.

>
>I bet there are some that do.
>
>You write as if milk is not a tasty beverage, and a good source
>of protein.


I don't think it's something an adult body needs, but each to their
own.

>I often drink milk if a meal is somewhat lacking
>in protein, and if I eat something sweet between meals I usually
>drink milk with it to mitigate the blood sugar crash.


I don't approach food that scientifically and I've never given any
thought to the concept of blood sugar crashes before
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:49:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Adults don't eat baby food either.

>
>I bet there are some that do.


Yep:

"Infantilists often wear nappies, may drink from a baby bottle and/or
be wet-nursed (sometimes simulated), crawl about the floor, have baby
baths, eat baby foods, play with baby toys, be spanked, and may
roleplay and regress to an infant-like state. There may also be some
crossover with other sexually paraphilic behaviour including masochism
(as they may enjoy being spanked and/or humiliated), transvestism (as
they may like to be dressed in baby clothes of the opposite sex, the
so-called sissy baby syndrome), urophilia (as they may enjoy
urinating in their nappies), coprophilia (as they may enjoy defecating
in their nappies), and lactophilia (as they may enjoy being breast
fed)."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...10/childs-play


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> On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:07:09 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:40:39 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:20:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article >, Sqwertz
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Chef Boyardee prices are actually dropping. They used to be about
>> >> >> $1.20/can and now they're down to $.85/$.90, sometimes less on
>> >> >> sale.
>> >> >> Store brand is $.75.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Just like most fast food, I sometimes eat them for sustenance - not
>> >> >> for flavor. I will always eat something else if it's readily
>> >> >> available.
>> >> >
>> >> >Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
>> >> >stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man
>> >> >might
>> >> >add a salad.
>> >>
>> >> And an adult man might replace the milk.
>> >
>> >Why? It seems like a nostalgia meal to me. Milk is entirely
>> >appropriate under those circumstances.
>> >
>> >I only recently stopped drinking milk on Thanksgiving.

>>
>> Adults don't eat baby food either.

>
> I bet there are some that do.


I've always eaten some of them, handy, portion controlled etc. I like the
applesauce, pears, etc.

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On 2017-01-08 1:49 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:


>> Adults don't eat baby food either.

>
> I bet there are some that do.
>
> You write as if milk is not a tasty beverage, and a good source
> of protein.



I can buy that it is a good source of protein, but it sure as heck is
not a tasty beverage for me. It is okay for cooking with, or to have on
cereal. I have some in my morning latte, but I cannot think of milk as a
beverage. If I were to look in the fridge for a cool and refreshing
beverage and there was no juice, water, soft drinks or beer, just milk,
there is nothing to drink.






> I often drink milk if a meal is somewhat lacking
> in protein, and if I eat something sweet between meals I usually
> drink milk with it to mitigate the blood sugar crash.



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On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:29:10 +1100, Jeus > wrote:

>On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:49:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Adults don't eat baby food either.

>>
>>I bet there are some that do.

>
>Yep:
>
>"Infantilists often wear nappies, may drink from a baby bottle and/or
>be wet-nursed (sometimes simulated), crawl about the floor, have baby
>baths, eat baby foods, play with baby toys, be spanked, and may
>roleplay and regress to an infant-like state. There may also be some
>crossover with other sexually paraphilic behaviour including masochism
>(as they may enjoy being spanked and/or humiliated), transvestism (as
>they may like to be dressed in baby clothes of the opposite sex, the
>so-called sissy baby syndrome), urophilia (as they may enjoy
>urinating in their nappies), coprophilia (as they may enjoy defecating
>in their nappies), and lactophilia (as they may enjoy being breast
>fed)."
>
>https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...10/childs-play


I know, but Sheldon doesn't represent mankind.


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On 1/8/2017 1:49 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> You write as if milk is not a tasty beverage, and a good source
> of protein. I often drink milk if a meal is somewhat lacking
> in protein, and if I eat something sweet between meals I usually
> drink milk with it to mitigate the blood sugar crash.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


In spite of the fact that I enjoy many dairy products, the last glass of
milk I drank was in the early 1960s. Once or twice a year I may have a
real milkshake, not fast food crap shake.
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:57:09 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:29:10 +1100, Jeus > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:49:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Adults don't eat baby food either.
>>>
>>>I bet there are some that do.

>>
>>Yep:
>>
>>"Infantilists often wear nappies, may drink from a baby bottle and/or
>>be wet-nursed (sometimes simulated), crawl about the floor, have baby
>>baths, eat baby foods, play with baby toys, be spanked, and may
>>roleplay and regress to an infant-like state. There may also be some
>>crossover with other sexually paraphilic behaviour including masochism
>>(as they may enjoy being spanked and/or humiliated), transvestism (as
>>they may like to be dressed in baby clothes of the opposite sex, the
>>so-called sissy baby syndrome), urophilia (as they may enjoy
>>urinating in their nappies), coprophilia (as they may enjoy defecating
>>in their nappies), and lactophilia (as they may enjoy being breast
>>fed)."
>>
>>https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...10/childs-play

>
>I know, but Sheldon doesn't represent mankind.


I was going to mention him, but didn't
He's more the sleazy, creepy old pervert kind of guy.
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 1/8/2017 1:49 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> You write as if milk is not a tasty beverage, and a good source
> of protein. I often drink milk if a meal is somewhat lacking
> in protein, and if I eat something sweet between meals I usually
> drink milk with it to mitigate the blood sugar crash.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


In spite of the fact that I enjoy many dairy products, the last glass of
milk I drank was in the early 1960s. Once or twice a year I may have a
real milkshake, not fast food crap shake.

==============

LOL I am with you on that. I can't remember the last time I drank milk.



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On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 07:07:51 +1100, Jeus > wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:57:09 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:29:10 +1100, Jeus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:49:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Adults don't eat baby food either.
>>>>
>>>>I bet there are some that do.
>>>
>>>Yep:
>>>
>>>"Infantilists often wear nappies, may drink from a baby bottle and/or
>>>be wet-nursed (sometimes simulated), crawl about the floor, have baby
>>>baths, eat baby foods, play with baby toys, be spanked, and may
>>>roleplay and regress to an infant-like state. There may also be some
>>>crossover with other sexually paraphilic behaviour including masochism
>>>(as they may enjoy being spanked and/or humiliated), transvestism (as
>>>they may like to be dressed in baby clothes of the opposite sex, the
>>>so-called sissy baby syndrome), urophilia (as they may enjoy
>>>urinating in their nappies), coprophilia (as they may enjoy defecating
>>>in their nappies), and lactophilia (as they may enjoy being breast
>>>fed)."
>>>
>>>https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...10/childs-play

>>
>>I know, but Sheldon doesn't represent mankind.

>
>I was going to mention him, but didn't
>He's more the sleazy, creepy old pervert kind of guy.


If he ever runs for president of the US, he'll win
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 07:17:57 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 07:07:51 +1100, Jeus > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:57:09 +1100, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:29:10 +1100, Jeus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:49:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adults don't eat baby food either.
>>>>>
>>>>>I bet there are some that do.
>>>>
>>>>Yep:
>>>>
>>>>"Infantilists often wear nappies, may drink from a baby bottle and/or
>>>>be wet-nursed (sometimes simulated), crawl about the floor, have baby
>>>>baths, eat baby foods, play with baby toys, be spanked, and may
>>>>roleplay and regress to an infant-like state. There may also be some
>>>>crossover with other sexually paraphilic behaviour including masochism
>>>>(as they may enjoy being spanked and/or humiliated), transvestism (as
>>>>they may like to be dressed in baby clothes of the opposite sex, the
>>>>so-called sissy baby syndrome), urophilia (as they may enjoy
>>>>urinating in their nappies), coprophilia (as they may enjoy defecating
>>>>in their nappies), and lactophilia (as they may enjoy being breast
>>>>fed)."
>>>>
>>>>https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...10/childs-play
>>>
>>>I know, but Sheldon doesn't represent mankind.

>>
>>I was going to mention him, but didn't
>>He's more the sleazy, creepy old pervert kind of guy.

>
>If he ever runs for president of the US, he'll win


I'd love to his inauguration address, especially after he's dosed up
on Crystal Palace


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On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 07:24:07 +1100, Jeus > wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 07:17:57 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 07:07:51 +1100, Jeus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:57:09 +1100, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I know, but Sheldon doesn't represent mankind.
>>>
>>>I was going to mention him, but didn't
>>>He's more the sleazy, creepy old pervert kind of guy.

>>
>>If he ever runs for president of the US, he'll win

>
>I'd love to his inauguration address, especially after he's dosed up
>on Crystal Palace


lol Move over, Jeltsin.
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On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 1:58:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:49:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:07:09 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:40:39 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:20:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
> >> >> >stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man might
> >> >> >add a salad.
> >> >>
> >> >> And an adult man might replace the milk.
> >> >
> >> >Why? It seems like a nostalgia meal to me. Milk is entirely
> >> >appropriate under those circumstances.
> >> >
> >> >I only recently stopped drinking milk on Thanksgiving.
> >>
> >> Adults don't eat baby food either.

> >
> >I bet there are some that do.
> >
> >You write as if milk is not a tasty beverage, and a good source
> >of protein.

>
> I don't think it's something an adult body needs, but each to their
> own.


There are lots of things an adult body doesn't need, but are
nevertheless tasty and we eat them all the time.

> >I often drink milk if a meal is somewhat lacking
> >in protein, and if I eat something sweet between meals I usually
> >drink milk with it to mitigate the blood sugar crash.

>
> I don't approach food that scientifically and I've never given any
> thought to the concept of blood sugar crashes before


You might never have had one. I get them, for example, if it's
someone's birthday at work and there is cake. About 45 minutes
later I'm very sleepy. A little milk in such a circumstance would
slow my digestion of the sugar and keep my blood sugar more level.
Usually I just skip the cake, stand at the back of the crowd and
sing "Happy Birthday". The cake is rarely very good, so it's
not worth eating those calories.

Cindy Hamilton
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On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 2:29:25 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:49:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> Adults don't eat baby food either.

> >
> >I bet there are some that do.

>
> Yep:
>
> "Infantilists often wear nappies, may drink from a baby bottle and/or
> be wet-nursed (sometimes simulated), crawl about the floor, have baby
> baths, eat baby foods, play with baby toys, be spanked, and may
> roleplay and regress to an infant-like state. There may also be some
> crossover with other sexually paraphilic behaviour including masochism
> (as they may enjoy being spanked and/or humiliated), transvestism (as
> they may like to be dressed in baby clothes of the opposite sex, the
> so-called sissy baby syndrome), urophilia (as they may enjoy
> urinating in their nappies), coprophilia (as they may enjoy defecating
> in their nappies), and lactophilia (as they may enjoy being breast
> fed)."
>
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...10/childs-play


Well, yes, I know about those people. But I'm sure there are other
people who just open a jar of baby food for a snack or something.
About 40 years ago there was some sort of berry-flavored baby food,
which I would occasionally buy a jar of because I liked the taste.

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On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 13:14:52 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 1:58:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:49:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:46:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:07:09 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:40:39 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:20:59 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Sometimes I just want Chef Boyardee. I like all their tomato based
>> >> >> >stuff with soda crackers or toast and milk. A more civilized man might
>> >> >> >add a salad.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And an adult man might replace the milk.
>> >> >
>> >> >Why? It seems like a nostalgia meal to me. Milk is entirely
>> >> >appropriate under those circumstances.
>> >> >
>> >> >I only recently stopped drinking milk on Thanksgiving.
>> >>
>> >> Adults don't eat baby food either.
>> >
>> >I bet there are some that do.
>> >
>> >You write as if milk is not a tasty beverage, and a good source
>> >of protein.

>>
>> I don't think it's something an adult body needs, but each to their
>> own.

>
>There are lots of things an adult body doesn't need, but are
>nevertheless tasty and we eat them all the time.


Absolutely.

>> >I often drink milk if a meal is somewhat lacking
>> >in protein, and if I eat something sweet between meals I usually
>> >drink milk with it to mitigate the blood sugar crash.

>>
>> I don't approach food that scientifically and I've never given any
>> thought to the concept of blood sugar crashes before

>
>You might never have had one. I get them, for example, if it's
>someone's birthday at work and there is cake. About 45 minutes
>later I'm very sleepy. A little milk in such a circumstance would
>slow my digestion of the sugar and keep my blood sugar more level.
>Usually I just skip the cake, stand at the back of the crowd and
>sing "Happy Birthday". The cake is rarely very good, so it's
>not worth eating those calories.


I always think that too. Unfortunately, I always think it afterwards.
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On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 1:11:22 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
> On 1/8/2017 1:49 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >
> > You write as if milk is not a tasty beverage, and a good source
> > of protein. I often drink milk if a meal is somewhat lacking
> > in protein, and if I eat something sweet between meals I usually
> > drink milk with it to mitigate the blood sugar crash.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >

>
> In spite of the fact that I enjoy many dairy products, the last glass of
> milk I drank was in the early 1960s. Once or twice a year I may have a
> real milkshake, not fast food crap shake.
>
> ==============
>
> LOL I am with you on that. I can't remember the last time I drank milk.
>
>
>
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I drink and use in cooking at least 4 litres of 3.25% M.F. milk per week
winter and summer. After a hot afternoon in summer it is especially refreshing.
Never had a problem with it other than the fat roll around my middle.
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