On 1/7/2017 12:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> There have been a lot of changes in all the liquor regulations over the
> last 40 years. No more men's parlors and separate ladies and escorts
> rooms. We now have what we used to call New York style bars where you
> can go in for a drink and not have to spend an equal amount on food.
> Drinking and driving laws are much stricter and penalties much higher.
> People serving alcohol have to take a training course and be certified
> so they know some of the laws and liabilities they face. They cannot
> serve anyone who is already intoxicated and cannot serve people enough
> to become intoxicated.

There was a case a couple of years ago where the bartender was being
sued for liability. He says he only sold the guy (a regular) two drinks
and he looked sober. Turns out, he only had two drinks in each of the
other four bars too and being a habitual drinker did not appear drunk or
impaired even though he was.

On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 22:32:17 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2017-01-06 10:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 1/6/2017 9:21 PM, sf wrote:
> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
> >>> geographically determined?
> >>
> >> Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> >> common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> >> have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> >> in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> >> up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> >> social norm for this particular area.
> >>
> >>
> > sf, I don't think you realize how snobbish that sounds. It's outside
> > the "social norm for this particular area"? To do what? Strike up
> > conversation with someone? What the heck is the social norm in your
> > area? Everyone in line should remain silent?
> >
>
>
> I don't think it was snobbish. It was just another way of saying that
> people in here area tend not to talk to strangers.
>
>
Thank you.


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On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 21:42:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 22:12:21 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > On 1/6/2017 9:21 PM, sf wrote:
> >>
> >> Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> >> common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> >> have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> >> in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> >> up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> >> social norm for this particular area.
> >>
> > sf, I don't think you realize how snobbish that sounds. It's outside
> > the "social norm for this particular area"? To do what? Strike up
> > conversation with someone? What the heck is the social norm in your
> > area? Everyone in line should remain silent?
>
> I was in culture shock when I moved from Suburban Pennsylvania to the
> San Francisco Bay Area. I quickly learned that you can't be as
> friendly as you could in PA. When striking up a conversation with a
> stranger, they either look at you strange/annoyed, don't even speak
> the same language, or they might think you're form a different planet.
> There are so many different lifestyles, religions, nationalities, and
> personal phobias that you have about an 7% chance of starting a
> cordial/brief conversation *if* you choose wisely. And that included
> work and school. And that was before cell-phones (now people just
> stare into those and avoid all conversation).
>
> I didn't think what she said was snobbish. And that carries a lot of
> weight coming from me :-)
>
> -sw

Thank you. Different areas, different social norms. It's not as hard
to understand as Jill seems to think.


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On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:52:45 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 22:12:21 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 1/6/2017 9:21 PM, sf wrote:
> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
> >>> geographically determined?
> >>
> >> Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> >> common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> >> have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> >> in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> >> up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> >> social norm for this particular area.
> >>
> >>
> >sf, I don't think you realize how snobbish that sounds. It's outside
> >the "social norm for this particular area"? To do what? Strike up
> >conversation with someone? What the heck is the social norm in your
> >area? Everyone in line should remain silent?
> >
> >Jill
>
> They have two lines, one for locals and one for outsiders. lol
> Here unless your family arrived on the Mayflower you'll forever be an
> outsider. After living here 14 years I'm still a Downstater... and
> Mayflower Van Lines doesn't count because that's who moved me here...
> a great moving company, I've used them a few times for long distance
> moves.

Truth be told, I do have ancestors that arrived on The Mayflower and
lots of others came later, but none of them arrived after the turn of
the last century.


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On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
> >> geographically determined?
> >
> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> >social norm for this particular area.
>
> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.

We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.


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On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>> >> geographically determined?
>> >
>> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>> >social norm for this particular area.
>>
>> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>
>We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.

I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
living closer together.

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
> >> >> geographically determined?
> >> >
> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> >> >social norm for this particular area.
> >>
> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
> >
> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>
> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
> living closer together.

I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
strangers.


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On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 2:40:09 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> > >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
> > >> >> geographically determined?
> > >> >
> > >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> > >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> > >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> > >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> > >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> > >> >social norm for this particular area.
> > >>
> > >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
> > >
> > >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
> >
> > I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
> > living closer together.
>
> I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
> up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
> strangers.

Could be. Ann Arbor is probably an outlier, because so many residents
are not originally from here.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>> >> >> geographically determined?
>> >> >
>> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>> >>
>> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>> >
>> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>
>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>> living closer together.
>
>I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>strangers.

I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
on holidays too, come to think of it.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 1/7/2017 7:01 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>
> All this talk of appetizers and the thing is, we hardly ever order
> them. They're a nice dinner off the Happy Hour menu at this one place
> so we'll make a dinner of them once in a while.

We usually order an appetizer. Then we may eat half our dinner and the
other half is lunch the next day. We get to try and enjoy a variety of
foods that way.

>
> Not that it's legal to call it Happy Hour any more,
>
> nancy
>
> ====
>
> Why not? It is actually illegal?
>
Yes, in some states
http://time.com/money/3962972/states-ban-happy-hour/

============

Thank, Ed. I take it it is only when it is referring to alcohol?

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On 2017-01-07 12:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/7/2017 12:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> There have been a lot of changes in all the liquor regulations over the
>> last 40 years. No more men's parlors and separate ladies and escorts
>> rooms. We now have what we used to call New York style bars where you
>> can go in for a drink and not have to spend an equal amount on food.
>> Drinking and driving laws are much stricter and penalties much higher.
>> People serving alcohol have to take a training course and be certified
>> so they know some of the laws and liabilities they face. They cannot
>> serve anyone who is already intoxicated and cannot serve people enough
>> to become intoxicated.
>
> There was a case a couple of years ago where the bartender was being
> sued for liability. He says he only sold the guy (a regular) two drinks
> and he looked sober. Turns out, he only had two drinks in each of the
> other four bars too and being a habitual drinker did not appear drunk or
> impaired even though he was.
>

We had a worse case than that. A woman sued her employer over a car
crash she had after leaving a company Christmas party. Apparently she
had been to the party and had only one glass of wine. They offered her a
ride home, offered to call a taxi for her. She declined the offer. She
had not consumed enough not to be able to driver, and then drove herself
to bar and proceeded to drink a lot more. She crashed on the way home.
She ended up with a $million plus settlement reduced to $300,000 because
she was found 75% liable.

Personally, I think that sucks the big one because there was no
evidence that she was impaired when she left the party. It was the
drinks she had at the bar that got her intoxicated.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>> >> >> geographically determined?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country
>>> >> >and
>>> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>>> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone
>>> >> >strikes
>>> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>> >>
>>> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>> >
>>> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>
>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>> living closer together.
>>
>>I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>strangers.
>
> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
> on holidays too, come to think of it.

I think it depends on the person in any city, if you give off a stand-offish
air, people probably won't strike up a conversation with you, whereas
friendly, outgoing people probably attract the same. I've never been in any
big city where people tended not to converse.

Cheri

On 2017-01-07 2:20 PM, sf wrote:

> Truth be told, I do have ancestors that arrived on The Mayflower and
> lots of others came later, but none of them arrived after the turn of
> the last century.

My wife has ancestors that were in the Massachusetts colony in 1630,
possible on the Mayflower under another name.

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>> >> geographically determined?
>> >
>> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>> >social norm for this particular area.
>>
>> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>
>We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.

They're icky anyway.

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 08:21:33 -0400, wrote:

>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:01:42 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...
>>
>>All this talk of appetizers and the thing is, we hardly ever order
>>them. They're a nice dinner off the Happy Hour menu at this one place
>>so we'll make a dinner of them once in a while.
>>
>>Not that it's legal to call it Happy Hour any more,
>>
>>nancy
>>
>>====
>>
>>Why not? It is actually illegal?
>
>They used to cut the prices - often by half - during 'happy hour' and
>all the stats showed some people would regularly gulp down all they
>could and then proceed to drive home. DUI stats after happy hour
>ended used to zoom. It was an excellent move to cut it out.

So now they go home sober and shoot each other.

On 1/7/2017 3:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:

>>
>> Not that it's legal to call it Happy Hour any more,
>>
>> nancy
>>
>> ====
>>
>> Why not? It is actually illegal?
>>
> Yes, in some states
> http://time.com/money/3962972/states-ban-happy-hour/
>
> ============
>
> Thank, Ed. I take it it is only when it is referring to alcohol?
>
Yes

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:35:34 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:
>
>I think it depends on the person in any city, if you give off a stand-offish
>air, people probably won't strike up a conversation with you, whereas
>friendly, outgoing people probably attract the same. I've never been in any
>big city where people tended not to converse.
>
>Cheri
>
I think you're right - I usually use the self check out at the
supermarket and have grown chatty with the woman most often
supervising that section - last trip in before Xmas I went over to
wish her Happy Christmas and she hugged me - I was a bit surprised but
I thought it was very nice.

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 07:57:36 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 08:21:33 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:01:42 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>All this talk of appetizers and the thing is, we hardly ever order
>>>them. They're a nice dinner off the Happy Hour menu at this one place
>>>so we'll make a dinner of them once in a while.
>>>
>>>Not that it's legal to call it Happy Hour any more,
>>>
>>>nancy
>>>
>>>====
>>>
>>>Why not? It is actually illegal?
>>
>>They used to cut the prices - often by half - during 'happy hour' and
>>all the stats showed some people would regularly gulp down all they
>>could and then proceed to drive home. DUI stats after happy hour
>>ended used to zoom. It was an excellent move to cut it out.
>
>So now they go home sober and shoot each other.

Could be, but at least they don't take a stranger with them.

On 1/7/2017 3:34 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> We had a worse case than that. A woman sued her employer over a car
> crash she had after leaving a company Christmas party. Apparently she
> had been to the party and had only one glass of wine. They offered her a
> ride home, offered to call a taxi for her. She declined the offer. She
> had not consumed enough not to be able to driver, and then drove herself
> to bar and proceeded to drink a lot more. She crashed on the way home.
> She ended up with a $million plus settlement reduced to $300,000 because
> she was found 75% liable.
>
> Personally, I think that sucks the big one because there was no
> evidence that she was impaired when she left the party. It was the
> drinks she had at the bar that got her intoxicated.
>

Most everyone makes the choice to drink and how much. I guess a
bartender can have minor liability but if you are walking home you
should be able to get a bit tipsy if you choose. No easy answer as
there will always be abuse.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:56:04 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 09:07:56 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2017 12:50 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> I know Texas has a law against BOGOF drinks, but not half-price
>>> drinks/pitchers or happy hour drink specials.
>>
>> There are so many rules about booze that I'm not surprised about
>> the Happy Hour laws some states have. Probably not a great idea
>> to encourage people to down as many cheap drinks as they can in
>> an hour or so.
>
>I agree with not having a BOGOF drink specials as it encourages people
>to drink at least 2 (or 4 or 6) drinks. But I think prohibiting
>offering discounts during certain time periods encroaches on free
>enterprise. OTOH, if all restaurants are required to charge full
>price, then all bars are on equal ground and need to examine the price
>of regular drinks.
>
>So what's to stop a bar or restaurant for having a special set of
>strong, cheap drinks that are only served certain times of the day?
>They are still charging "regular price", just only serving them at
>certain hours.

Very simple, drink at ones own risk. I never have more than two
drinks when I go out, if I feel like having more I drink at home. No
cop has ever pulled me over for a DWI in my own bedroom. Any cop ever
busts into my bedroom had better kiss his ass bye bye, because he'd
need to survive several rounds of 12 ga buck shot, I sleep with my
Winchester. By the time I'm done its own mother would never recognize
him/her. I still live by the same training I received in the US Navy
for standing watch aboard ship, that will never change. I'm always
within reach of my Winchester. I don't sleep, I'm always locked and
loaded, any towelhead gets within a 100 yards of me is DEAD! And not
reported, they become snapping turtle chow. Snapping turtles will eat
your flesh and all your bones... no one will ever find your remains
because there will be no remains.

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 16:54:10 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:56:04 -0600, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 09:07:56 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2017 12:50 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know Texas has a law against BOGOF drinks, but not half-price
>>>> drinks/pitchers or happy hour drink specials.
>>>
>>> There are so many rules about booze that I'm not surprised about
>>> the Happy Hour laws some states have. Probably not a great idea
>>> to encourage people to down as many cheap drinks as they can in
>>> an hour or so.
>>
>>I agree with not having a BOGOF drink specials as it encourages people
>>to drink at least 2 (or 4 or 6) drinks. But I think prohibiting
>>offering discounts during certain time periods encroaches on free
>>enterprise. OTOH, if all restaurants are required to charge full
>>price, then all bars are on equal ground and need to examine the price
>>of regular drinks.
>>
>>So what's to stop a bar or restaurant for having a special set of
>>strong, cheap drinks that are only served certain times of the day?
>>They are still charging "regular price", just only serving them at
>>certain hours.
>
>Very simple, drink at ones own risk. I never have more than two
>drinks when I go out, if I feel like having more I drink at home. No
>cop has ever pulled me over for a DWI in my own bedroom. Any cop ever
>busts into my bedroom had better kiss his ass bye bye, because he'd
>need to survive several rounds of 12 ga buck shot, I sleep with my
>Winchester. By the time I'm done its own mother would never recognize
>him/her. I still live by the same training I received in the US Navy
>for standing watch aboard ship, that will never change. I'm always
>within reach of my Winchester. I don't sleep, I'm always locked and
>loaded, any towelhead gets within a 100 yards of me is DEAD! And not
>reported, they become snapping turtle chow. Snapping turtles will eat
>your flesh and all your bones... no one will ever find your remains
>because there will be no remains.

At least you're good for laughing at, if nothing else.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:35:34 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>> >> >> geographically determined?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country
>>>> >> >and
>>>> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>>>> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone
>>>> >> >strikes
>>>> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>> >
>>>> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>> living closer together.
>>>
>>>I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>strangers.
>>
>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>
>I think it depends on the person in any city, if you give off a stand-offish
>air, people probably won't strike up a conversation with you, whereas
>friendly, outgoing people probably attract the same.

That's true, but a stand-offish air seems to be infectious in such
places.

> I've never been in any
>big city where people tended not to converse.

I have. That's not to say *nobody* will chat with a stranger though.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:45:44 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-07 2:20 PM, sf wrote:
>
>> Truth be told, I do have ancestors that arrived on The Mayflower and
>> lots of others came later, but none of them arrived after the turn of
>> the last century.
>
>My wife has ancestors that were in the Massachusetts colony in 1630,
>possible on the Mayflower under another name.

Must have been a freakin' big boat.

On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 11:49:16 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/7/2017 3:34 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >
> > We had a worse case than that. A woman sued her employer over a car
> > crash she had after leaving a company Christmas party. Apparently she
> > had been to the party and had only one glass of wine. They offered her a
> > ride home, offered to call a taxi for her. She declined the offer. She
> > had not consumed enough not to be able to driver, and then drove herself
> > to bar and proceeded to drink a lot more. She crashed on the way home.
> > She ended up with a $million plus settlement reduced to $300,000 because
> > she was found 75% liable.
> >
> > Personally, I think that sucks the big one because there was no
> > evidence that she was impaired when she left the party. It was the
> > drinks she had at the bar that got her intoxicated.
> >
>
> Most everyone makes the choice to drink and how much. I guess a
> bartender can have minor liability but if you are walking home you
> should be able to get a bit tipsy if you choose. No easy answer as
> there will always be abuse.

Self-driving cars will put an end to this nasty social problems. OTOH, drinking without reservation and alcoholism will probably be on the rise.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:35:34 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>> >> >> geographically determined?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>>> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country
>>>>> >> >and
>>>>> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind
>>>>> >> >me
>>>>> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone
>>>>> >> >strikes
>>>>> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>>> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>
>>>>I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>>up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>>strangers.
>>>
>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
>>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>>
>>I think it depends on the person in any city, if you give off a
>>stand-offish
>>air, people probably won't strike up a conversation with you, whereas
>>friendly, outgoing people probably attract the same.
>
> That's true, but a stand-offish air seems to be infectious in such
> places.
>
>> I've never been in any
>>big city where people tended not to converse.
>
> I have. That's not to say *nobody* will chat with a stranger though.

The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)

Cheri

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 11:49:16 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 1/7/2017 3:34 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > We had a worse case than that. A woman sued her employer over a car
>> > crash she had after leaving a company Christmas party. Apparently she
>> > had been to the party and had only one glass of wine. They offered her
>> > a
>> > ride home, offered to call a taxi for her. She declined the offer. She
>> > had not consumed enough not to be able to driver, and then drove
>> > herself
>> > to bar and proceeded to drink a lot more. She crashed on the way home.
>> > She ended up with a $million plus settlement reduced to $300,000
>> > because
>> > she was found 75% liable.
>> >
>> > Personally, I think that sucks the big one because there was no
>> > evidence that she was impaired when she left the party. It was the
>> > drinks she had at the bar that got her intoxicated.
>> >
>>
>> Most everyone makes the choice to drink and how much. I guess a
>> bartender can have minor liability but if you are walking home you
>> should be able to get a bit tipsy if you choose. No easy answer as
>> there will always be abuse.
>
> Self-driving cars will put an end to this nasty social problems. OTOH,
> drinking without reservation and alcoholism will probably be on the rise.

=======

By the time all human behavior is modified/controlled by computers, there
should be an end to those too. ;-)

Cheri

In article >, says...
>
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
> >> >> >> geographically determined?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> >> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> >> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> >> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> >> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> >> >> >social norm for this particular area.
> >> >>
> >> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
> >> >
> >> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
> >>
> >> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
> >> living closer together.
> >
> >I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
> >up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
> >strangers.
>
> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities.

That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
cities and rural areas.

Janet.

On 2017-01-07 5:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>>>> geographically determined?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>>>>> common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>>>>>>> have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>>>>>>> in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>>>>>>> up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>>>>> social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>
>>>>> We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>> living closer together.
>>>
>>> I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>> up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>> strangers.
>>
>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities.
>
> That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
> much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
> cities and rural areas.
>
> Janet.
>
Myth!

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 11:45:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> Could be. Ann Arbor is probably an outlier, because so many residents
> are not originally from here.

I agree. Hard to comprehend that it started off as a college town (my
uncle's alma mater), but it has a Google campus and my DD has a team
there that reports to her - so she visits a couple times per year.


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On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:56:44 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
> >> >> >> geographically determined?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> >> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> >> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> >> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> >> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> >> >> >social norm for this particular area.
> >> >>
> >> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
> >> >
> >> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
> >>
> >> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
> >> living closer together.
> >
> >I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
> >up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
> >strangers.
>
> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
> on holidays too, come to think of it.

My experience with Asians on the Asian continent is that they study
English as a second language and want to practice on native English
speakers after they feel competent. YMMV, but I think that's what you
are confusing with friendliness.



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On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 00:21:01 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
> much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
> cities and rural areas.

We have wonderful memories of chatting with locals when touring
(self-guided) the Cotswalds.


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On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 07:53:17 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
> >> >> geographically determined?
> >> >
> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> >> >social norm for this particular area.
> >>
> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
> >
> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>
> They're icky anyway.

There are sanitary wipes, foam or gel for hands all over the place, so
you can disinfect yourself any time you want.


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On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 23:12:01 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:56:44 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>> >> >> >> geographically determined?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>> >> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>> >> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>> >> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>> >> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>> >> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>> >> >
>> >> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>> >>
>> >> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>> >> living closer together.
>> >
>> >I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>> >up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>> >strangers.
>>
>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>
>My experience with Asians on the Asian continent is that they study
>English as a second language and want to practice on native English
>speakers after they feel competent. YMMV, but I think that's what you
>are confusing with friendliness.

That's rather insulting.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:35:34 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>> >> >> geographically determined?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>>>> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country
>>>>>> >> >and
>>>>>> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind
>>>>>> >> >me
>>>>>> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone
>>>>>> >> >strikes
>>>>>> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>>>> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>>>up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>>>strangers.
>>>>
>>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
>>>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>>>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>>>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>>>
>>>I think it depends on the person in any city, if you give off a
>>>stand-offish
>>>air, people probably won't strike up a conversation with you, whereas
>>>friendly, outgoing people probably attract the same.
>>
>> That's true, but a stand-offish air seems to be infectious in such
>> places.
>>
>>> I've never been in any
>>>big city where people tended not to converse.
>>
>> I have. That's not to say *nobody* will chat with a stranger though.
>
>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)

Yes, they're highly motivated

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:35:34 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>> >> >> geographically determined?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>>>> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country
>>>>>> >> >and
>>>>>> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind
>>>>>> >> >me
>>>>>> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone
>>>>>> >> >strikes
>>>>>> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>>>> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>>>up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>>>strangers.
>>>>
>>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
>>>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>>>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>>>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>>>
>>>I think it depends on the person in any city, if you give off a
>>>stand-offish
>>>air, people probably won't strike up a conversation with you, whereas
>>>friendly, outgoing people probably attract the same.
>>
>> That's true, but a stand-offish air seems to be infectious in such
>> places.
>>
>>> I've never been in any
>>>big city where people tended not to converse.
>>
>> I have. That's not to say *nobody* will chat with a stranger though.
>
>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)

Wow, you guys really created your own little language.

Definition of panhandle

intransitive verb

: to stop people on the street and ask for food or money : beg

(https://www.merriam-webster.com)

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)
>
>Wow, you guys really created your own little language.

What locality or country doesn't? I've been familiar with the term for
as long as I can remember, even though it's never used in Aus.



>Definition of panhandle
>
> intransitive verb
>
> : to stop people on the street and ask for food or money : beg
>
>(https://www.merriam-webster.com)

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:36:20 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)
>>
>>Wow, you guys really created your own little language.
>
>What locality or country doesn't? I've been familiar with the term for
>as long as I can remember, even though it's never used in Aus.

But how long can you remember?

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:39:10 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:36:20 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)
>>>
>>>Wow, you guys really created your own little language.
>>
>>What locality or country doesn't? I've been familiar with the term for
>>as long as I can remember, even though it's never used in Aus.
>
>But how long can you remember?

I waiting for that <G>. Let's just say I've been familar with
'panhandling' probably since primary school. Books, TV shows...

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:52:57 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:39:10 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:36:20 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Wow, you guys really created your own little language.
>>>
>>>What locality or country doesn't? I've been familiar with the term for
>>>as long as I can remember, even though it's never used in Aus.
>>
>>But how long can you remember?
>
>I waiting for that <G>.

Lol, ok.

> Let's just say I've been familar with
>'panhandling' probably since primary school. Books, TV shows...

You win

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:53:52 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:52:57 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:39:10 +1100, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:36:20 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:20:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Wow, you guys really created your own little language.
>>>>
>>>>What locality or country doesn't? I've been familiar with the term for
>>>>as long as I can remember, even though it's never used in Aus.
>>>
>>>But how long can you remember?
>>
>>I waiting for that <G>.
>
>Lol, ok.
>
>> Let's just say I've been familar with
>>'panhandling' probably since primary school. Books, TV shows...
>
>You win

Well, not about winning, just explaining. Anyway, time to retire for
the evening methinks. Dinner tonight was basic: a scotch fillet,
onions and mushrooms. Had a break from all the SE Asian style cuisine
I've been learning to cook lately.