On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 21:42:40 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-01-07 5:21 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>>>>> geographically determined?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>>>>>> common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>>>>>>>> have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>>>>>>>> in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>>>>>>>> up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>>>>>> social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>
>>>> I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>> up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>> strangers.
>>>
>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities.
>>
>> That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
>> much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
>> cities and rural areas.
>>
>> Janet.
>>
>Myth!

I agree with you - while in Suffolk we found the natives friendly and
in Devon, super friendly.

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 23:25:40 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 00:21:01 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>> That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
>> much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
>> cities and rural areas.
>
>We have wonderful memories of chatting with locals when touring
>(self-guided) the Cotswalds.

I know them well, but as the Cotswolds !

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 19:08:51 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 23:12:01 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:56:44 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>> >> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>> >> >> >> geographically determined?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>> >> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>>> >> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>>> >> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>>> >> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>> >> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>> >>
>>> >> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>> >> living closer together.
>>> >
>>> >I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>> >up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>> >strangers.
>>>
>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
>>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>>
>>My experience with Asians on the Asian continent is that they study
>>English as a second language and want to practice on native English
>>speakers after they feel competent. YMMV, but I think that's what you
>>are confusing with friendliness.
>
>That's rather insulting.

Yes very, while it is true they enjoy practicing their English, they
are very friendly - then again - I suppose it would depend on how you
approached them, if condescending, why should they salute you?

On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 2:07:43 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 11:45:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > Could be. Ann Arbor is probably an outlier, because so many residents
> > are not originally from here.
>
> I agree. Hard to comprehend that it started off as a college town (my
> uncle's alma mater), but it has a Google campus and my DD has a team
> there that reports to her - so she visits a couple times per year.

It's still a college town. The university is the largest employer
in town, and it buys more land every year, taking it off the tax rolls.

Cindy Hamilton

I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry is English.
But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side of the
Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it, but
neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care enough
to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish group, but
that may be an unfair idea.

N.

"Nancy2" wrote in message
...

I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry is
English.
But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side of
the
Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it, but
neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care enough
to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish group,
but
that may be an unfair idea.

N.

===

DAR?

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:35:34 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>>> >> >> geographically determined?
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely
>>>>>>> >> >more
>>>>>>> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the
>>>>>>> >> >country
>>>>>>> >> >and
>>>>>>> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person
>>>>>>> >> >behind
>>>>>>> >> >me
>>>>>>> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone
>>>>>>> >> >strikes
>>>>>>> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of
>>>>>>> >> >the
>>>>>>> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>>>>up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>>>>strangers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
>>>>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>>>>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>>>>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>>>>
>>>>I think it depends on the person in any city, if you give off a
>>>>stand-offish
>>>>air, people probably won't strike up a conversation with you, whereas
>>>>friendly, outgoing people probably attract the same.
>>>
>>> That's true, but a stand-offish air seems to be infectious in such
>>> places.
>>>
>>>> I've never been in any
>>>>big city where people tended not to converse.
>>>
>>> I have. That's not to say *nobody* will chat with a stranger though.
>>
>>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)
>
> Yes, they're highly motivated

LOL, for sure, and they usually win with me.

Cheri

On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 11:16:54 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy2" wrote in message
> ...
>
> I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry is
> English.
> But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side of
> the
> Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it, but
> neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care enough
> to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish group,
> but
> that may be an unfair idea.
>
> N.
>
> ===
>
> DAR?

Daughters of the American Revolution:

<http://www.dar.org/>

My family has been in the country long enough that I'm eligible,
but I don't think that old bunch of horse thieves and reprobates
was very useful in the war.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2017-01-08 5:34 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 21:42:40 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-01-07 5:21 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>>>>>> geographically determined?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>>>>>>> common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>>>>>>>>> have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>>>>>>>>> in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>>>>>>>>> up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>>>>>>> social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>>> up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>>> strangers.
>>>>
>>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities.
>>>
>>> That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
>>> much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
>>> cities and rural areas.
>>>
>>> Janet.
>>>
>> Myth!
>
> I agree with you - while in Suffolk we found the natives friendly and
> in Devon, super friendly.
>
In my experience, northerners are no different to southerners.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:14:16 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Nancy2" wrote in message
...
>
>I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry is
>English.
>But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side of
>the
>Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it, but
>neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care enough
>to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish group,
>but
>that may be an unfair idea.
>
>N.
>
>===
>
>DAR?

Daughters of the American Revolution - somewhat like WI but more high
falutin.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 11:12:26 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-01-08 5:34 AM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 21:42:40 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-01-07 5:21 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>>>>>>> geographically determined?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>>>>>>>> common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>>>>>>>>>> have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>>>>>>>>>> in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>>>>>>>>>> up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>>>>>>>> social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>>>> up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>>>> strangers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities.
>>>>
>>>> That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
>>>> much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
>>>> cities and rural areas.
>>>>
>>>> Janet.
>>>>
>>> Myth!
>>
>> I agree with you - while in Suffolk we found the natives friendly and
>> in Devon, super friendly.
>>
>In my experience, northerners are no different to southerners.

In part it's a question of how you personally relate to other people,
I have no problems and will chat with anyone, people really interest
me.

"graham" wrote in message news
On 2017-01-08 5:34 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 21:42:40 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-01-07 5:21 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>>>>>> geographically determined?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>>>>>>> common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>> in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone
>>>>>>>>> strikes
>>>>>>>>> up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>>>>>>> social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>>> up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>>> strangers.
>>>>
>>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities.
>>>
>>> That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
>>> much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
>>> cities and rural areas.
>>>
>>> Janet.
>>>
>> Myth!
>
> I agree with you - while in Suffolk we found the natives friendly and
> in Devon, super friendly.
>
In my experience, northerners are no different to southerners.

===

For a while we were moving around with D's work. I had thought all northern
cities would be the most friendly. The two places that defied that were
.....
Oxford (very friendly) and Manchester (hostile) For those that don't know,
Oxford is south and meant to be very 'posh') Manchester is in Lancashire.
The least said about that the better



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 11:16:54 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy2" wrote in message
> ...
>
> I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry is
> English.
> But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side of
> the
> Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it,
> but
> neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care
> enough
> to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish
> group,
> but
> that may be an unfair idea.
>
> N.
>
> ===
>
> DAR?

Daughters of the American Revolution:

<http://www.dar.org/>

My family has been in the country long enough that I'm eligible,
but I don't think that old bunch of horse thieves and reprobates
was very useful in the war.

Cindy Hamilton

-----

<g> thanks, Cindy



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

wrote in message ...

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:14:16 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Nancy2" wrote in message
...
>
>I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry is
>English.
>But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side of
>the
>Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it,
>but
>neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care
>enough
>to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish
>group,
>but
>that may be an unfair idea.
>
>N.
>
>===
>
>DAR?

Daughters of the American Revolution - somewhat like WI but more high
falutin.

==

Thanks.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 08:57:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:35:34 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>>>> >> >> geographically determined?
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely
>>>>>>>> >> >more
>>>>>>>> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the
>>>>>>>> >> >country
>>>>>>>> >> >and
>>>>>>>> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person
>>>>>>>> >> >behind
>>>>>>>> >> >me
>>>>>>>> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone
>>>>>>>> >> >strikes
>>>>>>>> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of
>>>>>>>> >> >the
>>>>>>>> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>>>>>up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>>>>>strangers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>>>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
>>>>>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>>>>>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>>>>>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think it depends on the person in any city, if you give off a
>>>>>stand-offish
>>>>>air, people probably won't strike up a conversation with you, whereas
>>>>>friendly, outgoing people probably attract the same.
>>>>
>>>> That's true, but a stand-offish air seems to be infectious in such
>>>> places.
>>>>
>>>>> I've never been in any
>>>>>big city where people tended not to converse.
>>>>
>>>> I have. That's not to say *nobody* will chat with a stranger though.
>>>
>>>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)
>>
>> Yes, they're highly motivated
>
>LOL, for sure, and they usually win with me.

Wait until you have to deal with cute kids begging for money, or
trying to sell you something...

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 08:39:34 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 19:08:51 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 23:12:01 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:56:44 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
>>>> >> >> >wrote:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>> >> >> >> geographically determined?
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
>>>> >> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
>>>> >> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
>>>> >> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
>>>> >> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
>>>> >> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>>>> >> living closer together.
>>>> >
>>>> >I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>> >up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>>>> >strangers.
>>>>
>>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not to
>>>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>>>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>>>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>>>
>>>My experience with Asians on the Asian continent is that they study
>>>English as a second language and want to practice on native English
>>>speakers after they feel competent. YMMV, but I think that's what you
>>>are confusing with friendliness.
>>
>>That's rather insulting.
>
>Yes very, while it is true they enjoy practicing their English, they
>are very friendly

The Khmer people are famous for their friendliness and hospitality.
You do get a lot of school kids there striking up conversations, as
they're learning English and like to use it in the real world. Plenty
of adults actively learning English too, but I never got the sense
they were just conversing purely to improve their English.

I'm learning Khmer myself, slowly but surely...

> - then again - I suppose it would depend on how you
>approached them, if condescending, why should they salute you?

Oh, definitely they should not.

On 2017-01-08 12:11 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:14:16 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Nancy2" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry is
>> English.
>> But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side of
>> the
>> Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it, but
>> neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care enough
>> to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish group,
>> but
>> that may be an unfair idea.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> DAR?
>
> Daughters of the American Revolution - somewhat like WI but more high
> falutin.
>
The man who has nothing to boast of but his ancestry is like a potato.
The only good belonging to him is underground.
Sir Thomas Overbury

On 1/8/2017 11:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy2" wrote in message
> ...
>
> I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry
> is English.
> But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side
> of the
> Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it,
> but
> neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care
> enough
> to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish
> group, but
> that may be an unfair idea.
>
> N.
>
> ===
>
> DAR?
>

Daughters of the American Revolution.

From what I've read about them they seem to be a bit snobby as they are
so exclusive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daught...can_Revolution

"graham" wrote in message news
On 2017-01-08 12:11 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:14:16 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Nancy2" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry
>> is
>> English.
>> But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side
>> of
>> the
>> Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it,
>> but
>> neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care
>> enough
>> to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish
>> group,
>> but
>> that may be an unfair idea.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> DAR?
>
> Daughters of the American Revolution - somewhat like WI but more high
> falutin.
>
The man who has nothing to boast of but his ancestry is like a potato.
The only good belonging to him is underground.
Sir Thomas Overbury

==================

Hmmm is it boasting or is it pride?)



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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 1/8/2017 11:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy2" wrote in message
> ...
>
> I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry
> is English.
> But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side
> of the
> Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it,
> but
> neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care
> enough
> to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish
> group, but
> that may be an unfair idea.
>
> N.
>
> ===
>
> DAR?
>

Daughters of the American Revolution.

From what I've read about them they seem to be a bit snobby as they are
so exclusive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daught...can_Revolution

===

Ahhh I see Thanks



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On 2017-01-08 3:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/8/2017 11:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Nancy2" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry
>> is English.
>> But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side
>> of the
>> Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it,
>> but
>> neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care
>> enough
>> to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish
>> group, but
>> that may be an unfair idea.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> DAR?
>>
>
> Daughters of the American Revolution.
>
> From what I've read about them they seem to be a bit snobby as they are
> so exclusive.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daught...can_Revolution
>


United Empire Loyalists are the same way. You have to be able to prove
your lineage to an American colonist in 1775 and you moved to another
British territory within a time frame. My wife qualifies because her
family had been there since at least 1630. I do not because my Scottish
ancestors arrived there after the revolution and then to Canada in 1796
and the Hessian were not included as Loyalists even if they did come here.

On 1/8/2017 3:08 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "graham" wrote in message news


> The man who has nothing to boast of but his ancestry is like a potato.
> The only good belonging to him is underground.
> Sir Thomas Overbury
>
> ==================
>
> Hmmm is it boasting or is it pride?)

People with pride will mention it. People that boast will tell you
every boring detail.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news
On 1/8/2017 3:08 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "graham" wrote in message news


> The man who has nothing to boast of but his ancestry is like a potato.
> The only good belonging to him is underground.
> Sir Thomas Overbury
>
> ==================
>
> Hmmm is it boasting or is it pride?)

People with pride will mention it. People that boast will tell you
every boring detail.

====

Ahh well there is that

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On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:13:58 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/8/2017 3:08 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "graham" wrote in message news
>
>
>> The man who has nothing to boast of but his ancestry is like a potato.
>> The only good belonging to him is underground.
>> Sir Thomas Overbury
>>
>> ==================
>>
>> Hmmm is it boasting or is it pride?)
>
>People with pride will mention it. People that boast will tell you
>every boring detail.

I doubt I'll ever understand the logic of people being proud of or
boasting about their ancestry. They never existed at the time so how
can they take pride in it? They had absolutely zero involvement.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 12:49:51 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-01-08 12:11 PM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:14:16 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Nancy2" wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry is
>>> English.
>>> But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side of
>>> the
>>> Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it, but
>>> neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care enough
>>> to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish group,
>>> but
>>> that may be an unfair idea.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> DAR?
>>
>> Daughters of the American Revolution - somewhat like WI but more high
>> falutin.
>>
>The man who has nothing to boast of but his ancestry is like a potato.
>The only good belonging to him is underground.
>Sir Thomas Overbury

Heh, good one

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 08:57:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:32:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 12:35:34 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
t...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
>>>>>>>>> >> >> geographically determined?
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely
>>>>>>>>> >> >more
>>>>>>>>> >> >common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the
>>>>>>>>> >> >country
>>>>>>>>> >> >and
>>>>>>>>> >> >have no problem striking up a conversation with the person
>>>>>>>>> >> >behind
>>>>>>>>> >> >me
>>>>>>>>> >> >in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone
>>>>>>>>> >> >strikes
>>>>>>>>> >> >up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of
>>>>>>>>> >> >the
>>>>>>>>> >> >social norm for this particular area.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to
>>>>>>>>> >strangers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> living closer together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>>>>>>>>up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>strangers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>>>>>>> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities. I found that not
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be the case in Phnom Penh, for example. Very friendly people and
>>>>>>> willing to chat. Interestingly, that includes other westerners there
>>>>>>> on holidays too, come to think of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think it depends on the person in any city, if you give off a
>>>>>>stand-offish
>>>>>>air, people probably won't strike up a conversation with you, whereas
>>>>>>friendly, outgoing people probably attract the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's true, but a stand-offish air seems to be infectious in such
>>>>> places.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never been in any
>>>>>>big city where people tended not to converse.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have. That's not to say *nobody* will chat with a stranger though.
>>>>
>>>>The panhandlers will chat with anybody in a lot of big cities. ;-)
>>>
>>> Yes, they're highly motivated
>>
>>LOL, for sure, and they usually win with me.
>
> Wait until you have to deal with cute kids begging for money, or
> trying to sell you something...

Oh, I've had that too, especially in places like Tijuana, Mexico.

Cheri

Moi, also, Lucretia. I rarely make a trip to do errands without speaking
to someone I don't know....usually about innocuous topics like weather,
Ice in parking lots, etc. ;-)) I don't engage in long conversations, just
a short comment here and there. I always get a friendly response.

N.

On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 2:02:53 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > "Nancy2" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry
> > is English.
> > But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side
> > of the
> > Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it,
> > but
> > neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care
> > enough
> > to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish
> > group, but
> > that may be an unfair idea.
> >
> > N.
> >
>
> Daughters of the American Revolution.
>
> From what I've read about them they seem to be a bit snobby as they are
> so exclusive.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daught...can_Revolution
>
>
Many years ago an aunt was doing all the genealogy stuff so she
could join the DAR. We all said sure, fine, whatever, and went
about our business as no one else was interested in joining. I
haven't a clue if she ever made the grade or not.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 14:43:34 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Moi, also, Lucretia. I rarely make a trip to do errands without speaking
>to someone I don't know....usually about innocuous topics like weather,
>Ice in parking lots, etc. ;-)) I don't engage in long conversations, just
>a short comment here and there. I always get a friendly response.
>
>N.

Good to have confirmation I'm not that odd lol Several years ago when
my uncle and aunt were here I drove them over to Newfoundland. We
stayed in B&Bs and they have always said what they loved in
Newfoundland was arriving at a B&B and being welcomed like long lost
family You want chatters, Newfoundlanders are it !

In article >, says...
>
> On 2017-01-07 5:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:44:16 +1100, Bruce >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:21:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:38:40 +1100, Bruce >
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Are you saying that the content of stranger chit chat is
> >>>>>>>> geographically determined?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Often. Sometimes it's culturally based, but it's definitely more
> >>>>>>> common outside large urban areas. I was brought up in the country and
> >>>>>>> have no problem striking up a conversation with the person behind me
> >>>>>>> in line. I'm always surprised (but not offended) when someone strikes
> >>>>>>> up a conversation with me, because it's behavior that's out of the
> >>>>>>> social norm for this particular area.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I guess big city people are more into stranger danger.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
> >>>> living closer together.
> >>>
> >>> I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
> >>> up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
> >>> strangers.
> >>
> >> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
> >> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities.
> >
> > That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
> > much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
> > cities and rural areas.
> >
> > Janet.
> >
> Myth!

I've found it to be true, and I've lived all over the UK.


Janet UK

On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 01:18:46 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> On 2017-01-07 5:21 PM, Janet wrote:
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:40:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:26:04 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:22:13 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> We live closer together and feel no need to reach out to strangers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think it's more a westerner thing rather than anything to do with
>> >>>> living closer together.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think you'll find other North Americans who disagree with that
>> >>> up-thread. Small town and rural Americans can be quite friendly with
>> >>> strangers.
>> >>
>> >> I would have thought so too. What I meant is westerners tend to not
>> >> converse to strangers in bigger towns and cities.
>> >
>> > That's too sweeping a generalisation. Northerners in Britain tend to be
>> > much friendlier and chattier to strangers than southerners.. in both
>> > cities and rural areas.
>> >
>> > Janet.
>> >
>> Myth!
>
> I've found it to be true, and I've lived all over the UK.

Could it be that, in the south, they're more familiar with your type?

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:53:26 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 14:43:34 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:
>
>>Moi, also, Lucretia. I rarely make a trip to do errands without speaking
>>to someone I don't know....usually about innocuous topics like weather,
>>Ice in parking lots, etc. ;-)) I don't engage in long conversations, just
>>a short comment here and there. I always get a friendly response.
>>
>>N.
>
>Good to have confirmation I'm not that odd lol Several years ago when
>my uncle and aunt were here I drove them over to Newfoundland. We
>stayed in B&Bs and they have always said what they loved in
>Newfoundland was arriving at a B&B and being welcomed like long lost
>family You want chatters, Newfoundlanders are it !

Newfies are very affectionate, unfortunately they are so huge and
drooly.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I won't initiate a conversation with a stranger, and they
> very rarely initiate one with me.

I do that all the time and have even started some good friendships.

One thing I've noticed here....just being outside on the street.
It's the early morning people that are more friendly.
Say hi to a stranger you pass early morning and it's always
a friendly situation.

Say hi to a stranger in afternoon or evening and they look at
you like you are some weirdo.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> For a while we were moving around with D's work. I had thought all northern
> cities would be the most friendly. The two places that defied that were
> ....
> Oxford (very friendly) and Manchester (hostile) For those that don't know,
> Oxford is south and meant to be very 'posh') Manchester is in Lancashire.
> The least said about that the better

I have two close friends that grew up in Manchester. The nicest people
I've ever known. I don't understand why you have such a bad attitude
about the area.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> I don't know about the Mayflower, but probably I did...half my ancestry is English.
> But I did have ancestors in the Revolutionary War (fighting on the side of the
> Colonies). My grandmother belonged to the DAR and was very proud of it, but
> neither my sister nor I, nor any subsequent generations, seem to care enough
> to join up. I always had the impression they were kind of a snobbish group, but
> that may be an unfair idea.
>
> N.

No one gives a crap about the DAR other than themselves.

On 2017-01-09 9:56 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> For a while we were moving around with D's work. I had thought all northern
>> cities would be the most friendly. The two places that defied that were
>> ....
>> Oxford (very friendly) and Manchester (hostile) For those that don't know,
>> Oxford is south and meant to be very 'posh') Manchester is in Lancashire.
>> The least said about that the better
>
> I have two close friends that grew up in Manchester. The nicest people
> I've ever known. I don't understand why you have such a bad attitude
> about the area.
>


FWIW, my late sister in law was from Birmingham. They came over here
when she was about 10. She had the most introverted family I have ever
me. SiL was the most sociable of the lot. I used to hate going to their
family functions because they were so boring. It was virtually
impossible to engage them in conversation. I used to take it personally,
but then I realized that they didn't talk to each other either. When I
went to my brother and SiL's 40th anniversary luncheon her family sat at
tables with each other and there was almost no conversation at all.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> For a while we were moving around with D's work. I had thought all
> northern
> cities would be the most friendly. The two places that defied that were
> ....
> Oxford (very friendly) and Manchester (hostile) For those that don't
> know,
> Oxford is south and meant to be very 'posh') Manchester is in
> Lancashire.
> The least said about that the better

I have two close friends that grew up in Manchester. The nicest people
I've ever known. I don't understand why you have such a bad attitude
about the area.

==================

Why? Because you know two people who grew up there????



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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
>
> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > For a while we were moving around with D's work. I had thought all
> > northern
> > cities would be the most friendly. The two places that defied that were
> > ....
> > Oxford (very friendly) and Manchester (hostile) For those that don't
> > know,
> > Oxford is south and meant to be very 'posh') Manchester is in
> > Lancashire.
> > The least said about that the better
>
> I have two close friends that grew up in Manchester. The nicest people
> I've ever known. I don't understand why you have such a bad attitude
> about the area.
>
> ==================
>
> Why? Because you know two people who grew up there????

Yes and both of those unrelated people are very nice. For you to say
people
in Manchester are hostile isn't right. Maybe you just met the wrong
people.
Maybe YOU came across bad to them. It's wrong to diss an entire city
just
from your limited experience. Every place has good and bad people.

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 10:33:16 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > "Gary" wrote:
> >
> > Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > > For a while we were moving around with D's work. I had thought all
> > > northern
> > > cities would be the most friendly. The two places that defied that were
> > > ....
> > > Oxford (very friendly) and Manchester (hostile) For those that don't
> > > know,
> > > Oxford is south and meant to be very 'posh') Manchester is in
> > > Lancashire.
> > > The least said about that the better
> >
> > I have two close friends that grew up in Manchester. The nicest people
> > I've ever known. I don't understand why you have such a bad attitude
> > about the area.
> >
> > ==================
> >
> > Why? Because you know two people who grew up there????
>
> Yes and both of those unrelated people are very nice. For you to say
> people
> in Manchester are hostile isn't right. Maybe you just met the wrong
> people.
> Maybe YOU came across bad to them. It's wrong to diss an entire city
> just
> from your limited experience. Every place has good and bad people.
>
>
High 5. Gary!

We had an IBM CE several years ago that hailed from Manchester.
Nicest fellow you'd ever want to meet; chatty, friendly, and
knew what he was doing. We could just as easily say everyone
in Scotland is an ostrich but we know that would be a lie.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:47:15 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 10:33:16 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> > "Gary" wrote:
>> >
>> > Ophelia wrote:
>> > >
>> > > For a while we were moving around with D's work. I had thought all
>> > > northern
>> > > cities would be the most friendly. The two places that defied that were
>> > > ....
>> > > Oxford (very friendly) and Manchester (hostile) For those that don't
>> > > know,
>> > > Oxford is south and meant to be very 'posh') Manchester is in
>> > > Lancashire.
>> > > The least said about that the better
>> >
>> > I have two close friends that grew up in Manchester. The nicest people
>> > I've ever known. I don't understand why you have such a bad attitude
>> > about the area.
>> >
>> > ==================
>> >
>> > Why? Because you know two people who grew up there????
>>
>> Yes and both of those unrelated people are very nice. For you to say
>> people
>> in Manchester are hostile isn't right. Maybe you just met the wrong
>> people.
>> Maybe YOU came across bad to them. It's wrong to diss an entire city
>> just
>> from your limited experience. Every place has good and bad people.
>>
>>
>High 5. Gary!
>
>We had an IBM CE several years ago that hailed from Manchester.
>Nicest fellow you'd ever want to meet; chatty, friendly, and
>knew what he was doing. We could just as easily say everyone
>in Scotland is an ostrich but we know that would be a lie.

If the only Scot you ever met was an ostrich, it's tempting to draw
that conclusion.