On 2017-01-12 12:16 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:39:59 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:23:24 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/11/2017 9:01 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They must do if they believe the Great Wall will happen.
>>>>
>>>> Even if it would happen, Mexicans will tunnel under it, catapult
>>>> themselves over it or go around it on a boat. Look at the influx of
>>>> people into Europe.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I assume the wall will be high enough to stop airplanes too, as that is
>>> how at least a third illegals get here.
>>>
>>> I cannot imagine how anyone with common sense thinks a wall it going to
>>> work. Waste of billions of dollars.
>>
>> Oh, come on Ed! Stop using such common sense.
>
> the wall has nothing to do with an actual barrier. It is a symbol
> that the supporters could and still do focus on. It helped to gather
> them together and keep them focused. The candidate needed a rallying
> cry and a focus for hatred and it did and still works. It amazes me
> that his supporters have no clue how they are being led and fed.
> Janet US
>
and now their healthcare is going to be compromised.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2017-01-11 4:43 PM, wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:11:13 -0500, Dave Smith
>
> >> That's a ripe one Gary. I made pretty good money in my job and was able
> >> to retire with a good pension at 53 and am living very comfortable.
> >> You, OTOH are an unskilled tradesman, living in a small apartment and
> >> you rely on your employer's truck for transportation and you are
> >> currently stuck at home because the battery is dead. You are hardly in a
> >> position to fabricate the details of my career in a childish attempt to
> >> belittle me.
> >
> > You should learn, life and happiness is not measured by what you have
> > or own particularly.
> >
>
> My gawd you are acting like a silly old crone. I never said anything
> about what I have and what I own. I enjoyed my job and was good at it,
> and I made good money, and and I was able to retire with a good pension
> at 53. Your little puppy dog Gary is around the same age as me and is
> marginally employed in an unskilled labour position. The two of you
> seem to be reveling in an infantile manner about your silly notion that
> I did parking lot enforcement.Neither of you is in a position to try to
> denigrate what I did for a living.

Dave, I've never denigrated what you did for a living. Good for you to
retire at age 53. My comments were about what you have stated here
since you have retired....handicap parking police and especially
collecting fast food trash then dumping it in their parking lot.
That's wrong and weird, imo.

wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:11:13 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2017-01-11 11:19 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2017-01-11 10:42 AM, Gary wrote:
> >>>> Maybe you should mind your own business and go stake out a handicap
> >>>> parking space.
> >>>>
> >>>> Or go pick up trash along the road then go dump it out in the
> >>>> appropriate fast food parking lot.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I see. You don't like to have your childishness pointed out so you turn
> >>> around and reply with something even more childish.
> >>
> >> Of course not. Nobody wants that pointed out.
> >>
> >That's a ripe one Gary. I made pretty good money in my job and was able
> >to retire with a good pension at 53 and am living very comfortable.
> >You, OTOH are an unskilled tradesman, living in a small apartment and
> >you rely on your employer's truck for transportation and you are
> >currently stuck at home because the battery is dead. You are hardly in a
> >position to fabricate the details of my career in a childish attempt to
> >belittle me.
>
> You should learn, life and happiness is not measured by what you have
> or own particularly.

I have no problem with what Dave said. I "kicked sand in his face" so
it's only fair and reasonable that he would lash out back at me.

I just wish he would get it right. We can't compare careers. That's
apples and oranges. We followed different paths for different reasons.

Don't call me an unskilled tradesman though, Dave. Error there.
I am good at what I do and many others wouldn't get my job.
I'll match my "per hour" wage to your working one anyday.
But yeah, you won. My only perk now is the free van to use.
It saves me tons of money and I don't need a personal vehicle
at this time. That would be a total waste of thousands of dollars
for me each year for a 2nd vehicle that I don't need.

My "small apartment" is better than most that I've seen and I love it.
It's 1050 square feet and way more than I need but it's "home" and
also "home" to my daughter who grew up here. No need to try to chop
me for not owning my own house. If I won a lottery, I would still
stay in this apartment. I love it. Large and open, close to the
ocean and close to every store I ever want to go to.

I do love this place. I don't ever envy people that have more than I do.
I've learned to live within my means and am happy/satisfied with it.
I don't envy those that have more toys than me.
I also don't laugh at those that are worse off than me.




On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't

On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:

> At worse, I suspect Trump will get nothing done and be as worthless
> as Carter was.

At worst, he would provoke an exchange with another
nuclear power (or one with chem/bio weapons) and we'd
end up with World War III and/or the zombie apocalypse.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2017-01-12 9:47 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:

>> My gawd you are acting like a silly old crone. I never said anything
>> about what I have and what I own. I enjoyed my job and was good at it,
>> and I made good money, and and I was able to retire with a good pension
>> at 53. Your little puppy dog Gary is around the same age as me and is
>> marginally employed in an unskilled labour position. The two of you
>> seem to be reveling in an infantile manner about your silly notion that
>> I did parking lot enforcement.Neither of you is in a position to try to
>> denigrate what I did for a living.
>
> Dave, I've never denigrated what you did for a living.

You have played along with the old crone in the suggestion that I worked
in parking enforcement because you have no idea what sort of enforcement
work I did and you seem to enjoy the suggestion that it was the lowest
form of work out there.


> Good for you to
> retire at age 53. My comments were about what you have stated here
> since you have retired....handicap parking police and

True. I have indicated here that I don't consider handicap parking
violations to be the serious problem that others do because I see so
much abuse of it by permit holders. However, parking enforcement is
generally seen as a very low status job and something to be ridiculed,
along with mall security. Feel free to chuckle all you want but you and
the crone are hardly in a position to mock my former job.



> especially
> collecting fast food trash then dumping it in their parking lot.
> That's wrong and weird, imo.

On 12 Jan 2017 13:51:32 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-01-12, > wrote:
>
>> someone shooting him and making him a martyr.
>
>I could live with that. He'd replace RR and be gone, also. Talk
>about win-win.
>
>nb

RR?

On 2017-01-12 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:

> I have no problem with what Dave said. I "kicked sand in his face" so
> it's only fair and reasonable that he would lash out back at me.
>
> I just wish he would get it right. We can't compare careers. That's
> apples and oranges. We followed different paths for different reasons.
>
> Don't call me an unskilled tradesman though, Dave. Error there.
> I am good at what I do and many others wouldn't get my job.

I didn't say you weren't good. Skilled trades are those for which one
needs special training and certification, like plumbing, electrical
work, auto mechanics.


> I'll match my "per hour" wage to your working one anyday.
> But yeah, you won. My only perk now is the free van to use.
> It saves me tons of money and I don't need a personal vehicle
> at this time. That would be a total waste of thousands of dollars
> for me each year for a 2nd vehicle that I don't need.

That is a good savings when you are marginally employed.
>
> My "small apartment" is better than most that I've seen and I love it.
> It's 1050 square feet and way more than I need but it's "home" and
> also "home" to my daughter who grew up here. No need to try to chop
> me for not owning my own house.

I was just pointing out the reality of your situation while you were
making those catty remarks about me being a parking enforcement officer.


> I do love this place. I don't ever envy people that have more than I do.
> I've learned to live within my means and am happy/satisfied with it.
> I don't envy those that have more toys than me.
> I also don't laugh at those that are worse off than me.

You don't? You played along with the crones' fantasy about me having
had a job that would be lower than yours.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2017-01-12 9:47 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> My gawd you are acting like a silly old crone. I never said anything
> >> about what I have and what I own. I enjoyed my job and was good at it,
> >> and I made good money, and and I was able to retire with a good pension
> >> at 53. Your little puppy dog Gary is around the same age as me and is
> >> marginally employed in an unskilled labour position. The two of you
> >> seem to be reveling in an infantile manner about your silly notion that
> >> I did parking lot enforcement.Neither of you is in a position to try to
> >> denigrate what I did for a living.
> >
> > Dave, I've never denigrated what you did for a living.
>
> You have played along with the old crone in the suggestion that I worked
> in parking enforcement because you have no idea what sort of enforcement
> work I did and you seem to enjoy the suggestion that it was the lowest
> form of work out there.
>
> > Good for you to
> > retire at age 53. My comments were about what you have stated here
> > since you have retired....handicap parking police and
>
> True. I have indicated here that I don't consider handicap parking
> violations to be the serious problem that others do because I see so
> much abuse of it by permit holders. However, parking enforcement is
> generally seen as a very low status job and something to be ridiculed,
> along with mall security. Feel free to chuckle all you want but you and
> the crone are hardly in a position to mock my former job.
>
> > especially
> > collecting fast food trash then dumping it in their parking lot.
> > That's wrong and weird, imo.

Again...I have never mocked your former job. I don't even know what you
did nor do I need to know. My comments were all about what you've
written about what you did AFTER you retired. Like I said, you did good
(in career).

My father took a 2/3 retirement (Federal govt) at age 47. He wanted to
go to full retirement at age 55 but he was having serious heart problems
due to the stress of the job. Doctor told him he would never see age 55
with the current job. I'm glad he quit when he did. He's still alive 40
years later. You go, Dad!@

Meanwhile, us taxpayers are STILL paying his worthless old ass after 40
years of retirement! LOL. again....You go, Dad@ :-D

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:40:59 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>The politicians are the people with the ability to enact programs to put
>an end to it. Ours has recently showed some gutlessness. We had a
>problem with Mexicans coming here and claiming refugee status. The
>numbers were increasing rapidly. Our federal government reacted by
>simply requiring a visa for visiting Mexicans. That requirement was
>lifted last month and within the first month there was a big jump in the
>number of Mexican refugee claimants.
>
>Meanwhile, our prairie boarder area has become a common route for
>refugee claimants. Last week a couple of guys from Ghana were found by
>the side of the road after having walked across the border from the US
>and had almost frozen to death. Both were severely frostbitten. One
>lost all his fingers and a couple toes and may yet lose his arms, so
>there's one that be making immediate demands on our health care system
>and is pretty well guaranteed to be living on our welfare system for the
>rest of his life as a result of having sneaked across out border
>illegally.
>
>
I would like to see proof of that last statement, definitely not true
of either refugees or immigrants in NS. I wonder though why it
surprises me that you would say it.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:43:26 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-01-12 12:16 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:39:59 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:23:24 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2017 9:01 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They must do if they believe the Great Wall will happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if it would happen, Mexicans will tunnel under it, catapult
>>>>> themselves over it or go around it on a boat. Look at the influx of
>>>>> people into Europe.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I assume the wall will be high enough to stop airplanes too, as that is
>>>> how at least a third illegals get here.
>>>>
>>>> I cannot imagine how anyone with common sense thinks a wall it going to
>>>> work. Waste of billions of dollars.
>>>
>>> Oh, come on Ed! Stop using such common sense.
>>
>> the wall has nothing to do with an actual barrier. It is a symbol
>> that the supporters could and still do focus on. It helped to gather
>> them together and keep them focused. The candidate needed a rallying
>> cry and a focus for hatred and it did and still works. It amazes me
>> that his supporters have no clue how they are being led and fed.
>> Janet US
>>
>and now their healthcare is going to be compromised.

It will be a lot more than that. Health care is just the most obvious
and immediate thing -- started yesterday, correct?
Meanwhile, he manipulates stocks without a care. Who do you think
gets hurt when he yammers at an automobile company or an aerospace
company? The stock goes down and thousands of small time stock
holders lose money, jobs for the little guy get shaky and the big
billionaires play the stock market to their advantage.
Those billionaires in his cabinet each have a specific bias that is
detrimental to the regular citizen but beneficial to themselves. Wall
Street doesn't own him? Check out the 5 guys he has chosen from
Goldman Sachs.
As I said. The Wall is simply a tool, a distraction to keep the
suckers focused away from the real deal. I can't believe that anyone
in this group would even bring up the wall (shaking head)
Janet US

On 12 Jan 2017 13:44:57 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-01-12, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> I cannot imagine how anyone with common sense thinks a wall it going to
>> work. Waste of billions of dollars.
>
>*****NEWS FLASH*****
>
>Zombies Cancel Zombie Apocalypse After Election Reveals America Has No
>Brains!
>
>*****EOF*****
>
>nb --I gotta put that ona a t-shirt

I gotta pass that one on!
Janet US

On 2017-01-12 11:04 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:40:59 -0500, Dave Smith

>> Meanwhile, our prairie boarder area has become a common route for
>> refugee claimants. Last week a couple of guys from Ghana were found by
>> the side of the road after having walked across the border from the US
>> and had almost frozen to death. Both were severely frostbitten. One
>> lost all his fingers and a couple toes and may yet lose his arms, so
>> there's one that be making immediate demands on our health care system
>> and is pretty well guaranteed to be living on our welfare system for the
>> rest of his life as a result of having sneaked across out border
>> illegally.
>>
>>
> I would like to see proof of that last statement, definitely not true
> of either refugees or immigrants in NS. I wonder though why it
> surprises me that you would say it.

Are you serious? You know that refugee claimants are eligible for
welfare and for health care. The guy lost all his fingers. He is going
to have a hard time finding work. You know they won't turn him down now.
What is so hard for you to understand about that?

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-12 11:04 AM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:40:59 -0500, Dave Smith
>
>>> Meanwhile, our prairie boarder area has become a common route for
>>> refugee claimants. Last week a couple of guys from Ghana were found by
>>> the side of the road after having walked across the border from the US
>>> and had almost frozen to death. Both were severely frostbitten. One
>>> lost all his fingers and a couple toes and may yet lose his arms, so
>>> there's one that be making immediate demands on our health care system
>>> and is pretty well guaranteed to be living on our welfare system for the
>>> rest of his life as a result of having sneaked across out border
>>> illegally.
>>>
>>>
>> I would like to see proof of that last statement, definitely not true
>> of either refugees or immigrants in NS. I wonder though why it
>> surprises me that you would say it.
>
>Are you serious? You know that refugee claimants are eligible for
>welfare and for health care. The guy lost all his fingers. He is going
>to have a hard time finding work. You know they won't turn him down now.
> What is so hard for you to understand about that?

That does not constitute proof. You assume he doesn't want to work.
He most likely does, he will maybe need some help to polish up his
speaking and be shown the ropes, but after that, most go on to work. I
am speaking as party to Metro Immigrant Settlement here in NS but
there were plenty of people condemning them too, despite the fact that
mostly they came here, paid $400,000+ for a house, then furnished it
here etc etc and were never a drain on us.

They covered items recently about two of the refugee families who came
to NS from Syria - one in Antigonish is successfully operating a
chocolate making business but still needs translation by one of the
kids! Another one I can think of set herself up as an online
translator and is doing very well, not in the least concerned that all
help ends around now for most of them. Did you even know that even a
refugee only receives help for one year??? So much for languishing
for all their life on our welfare system.

It's so simple for people to parrot the common misconceptions about
refugees and immigrants. We were immigrants fifty years ago and not
one of us, nor my kids, nor my grandchildren have received welfare. So
all those tax paying citizens were well worth having!!

With having helped Koreans, Chinese and Taiwanese people settle here I
know all too well the awful discrimination they receive as visible
minorities - it is most embarrassing at times. Not one that I have
assisted ever had welfare etc. They have all been great assets.

On 2017-01-12, > wrote:

> RR?

Ronnie Raygun

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:59:22 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-12 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>> I have no problem with what Dave said. I "kicked sand in his face" so
>> it's only fair and reasonable that he would lash out back at me.
>>
>> I just wish he would get it right. We can't compare careers. That's
>> apples and oranges. We followed different paths for different reasons.
>>
>> Don't call me an unskilled tradesman though, Dave. Error there.
>> I am good at what I do and many others wouldn't get my job.
>
>I didn't say you weren't good. Skilled trades are those for which one
>needs special training and certification, like plumbing, electrical
>work, auto mechanics.
>
>
>> I'll match my "per hour" wage to your working one anyday.
>> But yeah, you won. My only perk now is the free van to use.
>> It saves me tons of money and I don't need a personal vehicle
>> at this time. That would be a total waste of thousands of dollars
>> for me each year for a 2nd vehicle that I don't need.
>
>That is a good savings when you are marginally employed.
>>
>> My "small apartment" is better than most that I've seen and I love it.

By now you should have enough equity in rent receipts to wallpaper
your toilet.

>> It's 1050 square feet and way more than I need but it's "home"

You'd be way ahead in every way living in a 1050 sqft cabin on your
own land... and could easily cost less than your rent.
http://www.countryboyrealty.com/residential.html
and
>> also "home" to my daughter who grew up here. No need to try to chop
>> me for not owning my own house.
>
>I was just pointing out the reality of your situation while you were
>making those catty remarks about me being a parking enforcement officer.
>
>
>> I do love this place. I don't ever envy people that have more than I do.
>> I've learned to live within my means and am happy/satisfied with it.
>> I don't envy those that have more toys than me.
>> I also don't laugh at those that are worse off than me.
>
>You don't? You played along with the crones' fantasy about me having
>had a job that would be lower than yours.
>
>

On 12 Jan 2017 17:20:57 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-01-12, > wrote:
>
>> RR?
>
>Ronnie Raygun

Me dumb lol

On 2017-01-12 12:00 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>

>>>>
>>> I would like to see proof of that last statement, definitely not true
>>> of either refugees or immigrants in NS. I wonder though why it
>>> surprises me that you would say it.
>>
>> Are you serious? You know that refugee claimants are eligible for
>> welfare and for health care. The guy lost all his fingers. He is going
>> to have a hard time finding work. You know they won't turn him down now.
>> What is so hard for you to understand about that?
>
> That does not constitute proof. You assume he doesn't want to work.


I didn't say he had come here just to live off our welfare system. He
and his friend entered Canada illegally across the prairies in winter
and got lost and almost froze to death. He has lost all his fingers and
a couple toes and he may yet lose his arms. That is going to make it
difficult for him to find work.



> He most likely does, he will maybe need some help to polish up his
> speaking and be shown the ropes, but after that, most go on to work.

What is he going to use to pull on those ropes? He now has no fingers,
and he may not even have arms.


>
> They covered items recently about two of the refugee families who came
> to NS from Syria - one in Antigonish is successfully operating a
> chocolate making business but still needs translation by one of the
> kids! Another one I can think of set herself up as an online
> translator and is doing very well, not in the least concerned that all
> help ends around now for most of them. Did you even know that even a
> refugee only receives help for one year??? So much for languishing
> for all their life on our welfare system.


Great. Being refugees themselves, maybe the guy with the chocolate
factory will offer a job to the one with no arms.

>
> It's so simple for people to parrot the common misconceptions about
> refugees and immigrants.

Who is parroting misconceptions. I specified someone who almost froze to
death while sneaking across the border illegally. He is the author of
his own misfortune. I also pointed out the surge in Mexican refugee
claimants within the first month of the lifting of via requirements for
Mexicans, the visa requirements that had been put in place because we
were getting so many refugees claims from visiting Mexicans.





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On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 8:28:20 AM UTC-6, Gary
>
> Why would someone his age even want this job?
>
Killary is 69, why would she want the job??

The Donald is 70 years old. Why does anyone want to be
president?

On 2017-01-12 12:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-12 12:00 PM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>
>>>>>
>>>> I would like to see proof of that last statement, definitely not true
>>>> of either refugees or immigrants in NS. I wonder though why it
>>>> surprises me that you would say it.
>>>
>>> Are you serious? You know that refugee claimants are eligible for
>>> welfare and for health care. The guy lost all his fingers. He is going
>>> to have a hard time finding work. You know they won't turn him down now.
>>> What is so hard for you to understand about that?
>>
>> That does not constitute proof. You assume he doesn't want to work.
>
>
> I didn't say he had come here just to live off our welfare system. He
> and his friend entered Canada illegally across the prairies in winter
> and got lost and almost froze to death. He has lost all his fingers and
> a couple toes and he may yet lose his arms. That is going to make it
> difficult for him to find work.
>
>
>
>> He most likely does, he will maybe need some help to polish up his
>> speaking and be shown the ropes, but after that, most go on to work.
>
> What is he going to use to pull on those ropes? He now has no fingers,
> and he may not even have arms.
>
>
>>
>> They covered items recently about two of the refugee families who came
>> to NS from Syria - one in Antigonish is successfully operating a
>> chocolate making business but still needs translation by one of the
>> kids! Another one I can think of set herself up as an online
>> translator and is doing very well, not in the least concerned that all
>> help ends around now for most of them. Did you even know that even a
>> refugee only receives help for one year??? So much for languishing
>> for all their life on our welfare system.
>
>
> Great. Being refugees themselves, maybe the guy with the chocolate
> factory will offer a job to the one with no arms.
>
>>
>> It's so simple for people to parrot the common misconceptions about
>> refugees and immigrants.
>
> Who is parroting misconceptions. I specified someone who almost froze to
> death while sneaking across the border illegally. He is the author of
> his own misfortune. I also pointed out the surge in Mexican refugee
> claimants within the first month of the lifting of via requirements for
> Mexicans, the visa requirements that had been put in place because we
> were getting so many refugees claims from visiting Mexicans.
>
>
Just to clarify: those two illegals were NOT Mexican, but a pair of African
gays who faced persecution at home.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:10:00 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 8:28:20 AM UTC-6, Gary
>>
>> Why would someone his age even want this job?
>>
>Killary is 69, why would she want the job??
>
>The Donald is 70 years old. Why does anyone want to be
>president?

I never understand that either. I guess it's called ambition. An alien
concept to me.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:48:06 -0400, wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:49:49 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:40:47 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:23:23 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:47:39 -0400, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Meh - it's just that she believes she is smarter than anyone else here
>>>>> because after all, we are here, not on her Fools Book!
>>>>
>>>>Apparently I'm a lot smarter than you are. You couldn't figure out
>>>>the basics of FB and call our attention to it often.
>>>
>>>No, you're incorrect again. I figured the pitfalls out when I looked
>>>at the signup and resisted.
>>
>>Yesterday, there were a police car and an ambulance driving past our
>>house. After realising that they weren't looking for me, I opened the
>>local Facebook group and found out what was going on. Very handy.
>
>Why did you need to know ? Nosey ?

This is a very quiet, rural street where nothing happens, unless
there's a cow on the road. When people hear a police siren here, they
get curious. I know I do

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:54:22 -0400, wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:57:30 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:47:13 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:40:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2017-01-11 5:23 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Meh - it's just that she believes she is smarter than anyone else here
>>>>>> because after all, we are here, not on her Fools Book!
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently I'm a lot smarter than you are. You couldn't figure out
>>>>> the basics of FB and call our attention to it often.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ouch ;-)
>>>
>>>Not at all, if someone couldn't figure out what you had to give up to
>>>use Fools Book, then they were in exactly the right place!
>>
>>OMG, did I give something up? And I don't even know what it is? I
>>guess I don't really miss it, whatever it is.
>
>Unfortunately that attitude, along with the old saw 'If you're not
>doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear' has brought us to these
>days where very little is private anymore.

Anything I consider private, I don't tell Facebook. Can you give a
concrete example of what I have to fear?

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:07:03 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-12 12:00 PM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>
>>>>>
>>>> I would like to see proof of that last statement, definitely not true
>>>> of either refugees or immigrants in NS. I wonder though why it
>>>> surprises me that you would say it.
>>>
>>> Are you serious? You know that refugee claimants are eligible for
>>> welfare and for health care. The guy lost all his fingers. He is going
>>> to have a hard time finding work. You know they won't turn him down now.
>>> What is so hard for you to understand about that?
>>
>> That does not constitute proof. You assume he doesn't want to work.
>
>
>I didn't say he had come here just to live off our welfare system. He
>and his friend entered Canada illegally across the prairies in winter
>and got lost and almost froze to death. He has lost all his fingers and
>a couple toes and he may yet lose his arms. That is going to make it
>difficult for him to find work.
>
>
>
>> He most likely does, he will maybe need some help to polish up his
>> speaking and be shown the ropes, but after that, most go on to work.
>
>What is he going to use to pull on those ropes? He now has no fingers,
>and he may not even have arms.

You are showing your true colours as usual
>
>
>>
>> They covered items recently about two of the refugee families who came
>> to NS from Syria - one in Antigonish is successfully operating a
>> chocolate making business but still needs translation by one of the
>> kids! Another one I can think of set herself up as an online
>> translator and is doing very well, not in the least concerned that all
>> help ends around now for most of them. Did you even know that even a
>> refugee only receives help for one year??? So much for languishing
>> for all their life on our welfare system.
>
>
>Great. Being refugees themselves, maybe the guy with the chocolate
>factory will offer a job to the one with no arms.

And again
>
>>
>> It's so simple for people to parrot the common misconceptions about
>> refugees and immigrants.
>
>Who is parroting misconceptions. I specified someone who almost froze to
>death while sneaking across the border illegally. He is the author of
>his own misfortune. I also pointed out the surge in Mexican refugee
>claimants within the first month of the lifting of via requirements for
>Mexicans, the visa requirements that had been put in place because we
>were getting so many refugees claims from visiting Mexicans.
>
So tell me - how did your ancestors arrive here? Were they refugees
or immigrants, nearly the whole population of Canada stem from one or
the other group. Funny how the ones today like you spit on those
trying to be here.
>
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:23:01 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-01-12 12:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-01-12 12:00 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see proof of that last statement, definitely not true
>>>>> of either refugees or immigrants in NS. I wonder though why it
>>>>> surprises me that you would say it.
>>>>
>>>> Are you serious? You know that refugee claimants are eligible for
>>>> welfare and for health care. The guy lost all his fingers. He is going
>>>> to have a hard time finding work. You know they won't turn him down now.
>>>> What is so hard for you to understand about that?
>>>
>>> That does not constitute proof. You assume he doesn't want to work.
>>
>>
>> I didn't say he had come here just to live off our welfare system. He
>> and his friend entered Canada illegally across the prairies in winter
>> and got lost and almost froze to death. He has lost all his fingers and
>> a couple toes and he may yet lose his arms. That is going to make it
>> difficult for him to find work.
>>
>>
>>
>>> He most likely does, he will maybe need some help to polish up his
>>> speaking and be shown the ropes, but after that, most go on to work.
>>
>> What is he going to use to pull on those ropes? He now has no fingers,
>> and he may not even have arms.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> They covered items recently about two of the refugee families who came
>>> to NS from Syria - one in Antigonish is successfully operating a
>>> chocolate making business but still needs translation by one of the
>>> kids! Another one I can think of set herself up as an online
>>> translator and is doing very well, not in the least concerned that all
>>> help ends around now for most of them. Did you even know that even a
>>> refugee only receives help for one year??? So much for languishing
>>> for all their life on our welfare system.
>>
>>
>> Great. Being refugees themselves, maybe the guy with the chocolate
>> factory will offer a job to the one with no arms.
>>
>>>
>>> It's so simple for people to parrot the common misconceptions about
>>> refugees and immigrants.
>>
>> Who is parroting misconceptions. I specified someone who almost froze to
>> death while sneaking across the border illegally. He is the author of
>> his own misfortune. I also pointed out the surge in Mexican refugee
>> claimants within the first month of the lifting of via requirements for
>> Mexicans, the visa requirements that had been put in place because we
>> were getting so many refugees claims from visiting Mexicans.
>>
>>
>Just to clarify: those two illegals were NOT Mexican, but a pair of African
>gays who faced persecution at home.

I didn't know that but yes in those circumstances they perfectly fit
the refugee status.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 06:53:45 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:54:22 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:57:30 +1100, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:47:13 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:40:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2017-01-11 5:23 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meh - it's just that she believes she is smarter than anyone else here
>>>>>>> because after all, we are here, not on her Fools Book!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently I'm a lot smarter than you are. You couldn't figure out
>>>>>> the basics of FB and call our attention to it often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ouch ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Not at all, if someone couldn't figure out what you had to give up to
>>>>use Fools Book, then they were in exactly the right place!
>>>
>>>OMG, did I give something up? And I don't even know what it is? I
>>>guess I don't really miss it, whatever it is.
>>
>>Unfortunately that attitude, along with the old saw 'If you're not
>>doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear' has brought us to these
>>days where very little is private anymore.
>
>Anything I consider private, I don't tell Facebook. Can you give a
>concrete example of what I have to fear?

I can't think where I would start and you must have read all that I
have read and heard Zuckerberg try and brush off with little success.
Google it and I am sure even google will say something.

There was an interesting example this past week on our programme
Marketplace about what happens when you click on apps and do not
entirely read the small print

http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/ can be found on that page.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:23:07 -0400, wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 06:53:45 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:54:22 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:57:30 +1100, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:47:13 -0400, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Not at all, if someone couldn't figure out what you had to give up to
>>>>>use Fools Book, then they were in exactly the right place!
>>>>
>>>>OMG, did I give something up? And I don't even know what it is? I
>>>>guess I don't really miss it, whatever it is.
>>>
>>>Unfortunately that attitude, along with the old saw 'If you're not
>>>doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear' has brought us to these
>>>days where very little is private anymore.
>>
>>Anything I consider private, I don't tell Facebook. Can you give a
>>concrete example of what I have to fear?
>
>I can't think where I would start and you must have read all that I
>have read and heard Zuckerberg try and brush off with little success.
>Google it and I am sure even google will say something.
>
>There was an interesting example this past week on our programme
>Marketplace about what happens when you click on apps and do not
>entirely read the small print
>
>http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/ can be found on that page.

I don't use apps. But if I did, what would that app find out about me
that would bother me? I'm not saying people shouldn't be careful
online, but I also don't know exactly what I have to fear. I put a
sticker on my laptop's camera and I disabled the mic in Windows.
Credit card data could be an issue, I guess.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 07:41:24 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:23:07 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 06:53:45 +1100, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:54:22 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:57:30 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:47:13 -0400, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Not at all, if someone couldn't figure out what you had to give up to
>>>>>>use Fools Book, then they were in exactly the right place!
>>>>>
>>>>>OMG, did I give something up? And I don't even know what it is? I
>>>>>guess I don't really miss it, whatever it is.
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately that attitude, along with the old saw 'If you're not
>>>>doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear' has brought us to these
>>>>days where very little is private anymore.
>>>
>>>Anything I consider private, I don't tell Facebook. Can you give a
>>>concrete example of what I have to fear?
>>
>>I can't think where I would start and you must have read all that I
>>have read and heard Zuckerberg try and brush off with little success.
>>Google it and I am sure even google will say something.
>>
>>There was an interesting example this past week on our programme
>>Marketplace about what happens when you click on apps and do not
>>entirely read the small print
>>
>>http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/ can be found on that page.
>
>I don't use apps. But if I did, what would that app find out about me
>that would bother me? I'm not saying people shouldn't be careful
>online, but I also don't know exactly what I have to fear. I put a
>sticker on my laptop's camera and I disabled the mic in Windows.
>Credit card data could be an issue, I guess.

I have done so too but Marketplace made the subject very interesting.
Too long to get into but if you watch it is a great demo of just what
'watchers' can do. The problem is who are the watchers and why and
what are they watching?

On 2017-01-12 2:23 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-01-12 12:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-01-12 12:00 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith

>> Who is parroting misconceptions. I specified someone who almost froze to
>> death while sneaking across the border illegally. He is the author of
>> his own misfortune. I also pointed out the surge in Mexican refugee
>> claimants within the first month of the lifting of via requirements for
>> Mexicans, the visa requirements that had been put in place because we
>> were getting so many refugees claims from visiting Mexicans.
>>
>>
> Just to clarify: those two illegals were NOT Mexican, but a pair of African
> gays who faced persecution at home.


Just to clarify, When I previously mentioned that the guys who entered
Canada illegally along the prairie border I specifically included the
fact that they were from Ghana. I also specifically referred to Mexican
refugee situation, pointing out that our previous government had reacted
to every increasing numbers of Mexican refuge claimants by requiring
Mexican visitors to get a visa, and as soon as the visa requirement was
lifted the number of Mexican refugee claimants soared.


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On 2017-01-12 2:53 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 07:54:22 -0400, wrote:

>> Unfortunately that attitude, along with the old saw 'If you're not
>> doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear' has brought us to these
>> days where very little is private anymore.
>
> Anything I consider private, I don't tell Facebook. Can you give a
> concrete example of what I have to fear?
>


She is quick on the hyperbole but slow with real facts.

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:10:00 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 8:28:20 AM UTC-6, Gary
>>
>> Why would someone his age even want this job?
>>
>Killary is 69, why would she want the job??
>
>The Donald is 70 years old. Why does anyone want to be
>president?

It's really quite simple to comprehend, anyone with that much in
assets hasn't much else meaningful to asertain other than POTUS. The
Donald has always been power hungry and has obviously always been
sucsessful. He has always endevered to succeed, I can't see him
failing now.

Bruce wrote:
>itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>Gary attempted to write
>>>
>>> Why would someone his age even want this job?
>>>
>>Killary is 69, why would she want the job??
>>
>>The Donald is 70 years old. Why does anyone want to be
>>president?
>
>I never understand that either. I guess it's called ambition. An alien
>concept to me.

Because you're a poor putz.

On 2017-01-12 2:50 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-12 2:23 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2017-01-12 12:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2017-01-12 12:00 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
>
>>> Who is parroting misconceptions. I specified someone who almost froze to
>>> death while sneaking across the border illegally. He is the author of
>>> his own misfortune. I also pointed out the surge in Mexican refugee
>>> claimants within the first month of the lifting of via requirements for
>>> Mexicans, the visa requirements that had been put in place because we
>>> were getting so many refugees claims from visiting Mexicans.
>>>
>>>
>> Just to clarify: those two illegals were NOT Mexican, but a pair of
>> African
>> gays who faced persecution at home.
>
>
> Just to clarify, When I previously mentioned that the guys who entered
> Canada illegally along the prairie border I specifically included the
> fact that they were from Ghana. I also specifically referred to Mexican
> refugee situation, pointing out that our previous government had reacted
> to every increasing numbers of Mexican refuge claimants by requiring
> Mexican visitors to get a visa, and as soon as the visa requirement was
> lifted the number of Mexican refugee claimants soared.
>
>
I think they came via Mexico and obviously through the US.

On 2017-01-12 3:15 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:07:03 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-01-12 12:00 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see proof of that last statement, definitely not true
>>>>> of either refugees or immigrants in NS. I wonder though why it
>>>>> surprises me that you would say it.
>>>>
>>>> Are you serious? You know that refugee claimants are eligible for
>>>> welfare and for health care. The guy lost all his fingers. He is going
>>>> to have a hard time finding work. You know they won't turn him down now.
>>>> What is so hard for you to understand about that?
>>>
>>> That does not constitute proof. You assume he doesn't want to work.
>>
>>
>> I didn't say he had come here just to live off our welfare system. He
>> and his friend entered Canada illegally across the prairies in winter
>> and got lost and almost froze to death. He has lost all his fingers and
>> a couple toes and he may yet lose his arms. That is going to make it
>> difficult for him to find work.
>>
>>
>>
>>> He most likely does, he will maybe need some help to polish up his
>>> speaking and be shown the ropes, but after that, most go on to work.
>>
>> What is he going to use to pull on those ropes? He now has no fingers,
>> and he may not even have arms.
>
> You are showing your true colours as usual


I am not surprised that you have once again replied with ad hominem. I
asked a valid question. I want to know what sort of work you expect the
man to do to earn his keep here. He had hands and fingers when he was in
the US, but when he bungled his way across the border illegally in the
middle of winter he ended up with such a serious case of frost bite that
he will be a burden on our system for the rest of his life if he is
allowed to stay.



>>>
>>> They covered items recently about two of the refugee families who came
>>> to NS from Syria - one in Antigonish is successfully operating a
>>> chocolate making business but still needs translation by one of the
>>> kids! Another one I can think of set herself up as an online
>>> translator and is doing very well, not in the least concerned that all
>>> help ends around now for most of them. Did you even know that even a
>>> refugee only receives help for one year??? So much for languishing
>>> for all their life on our welfare system.

And what happens to them when that year is up? They don't get bounced
out of the country or off welfare. According to a government site about
refugee support "Financial support can last up to one year after a
refugee arrives in Canada, or until they can support themselves,
whichever occurs first."


>>
>>
>> Great. Being refugees themselves, maybe the guy with the chocolate
>> factory will offer a job to the one with no arms.
>
> And again

We keep hearing about how grateful they are. For some reason you are
repulsed by the suggestion that should be expected to extend help to
others who were in their same situation.


> So tell me - how did your ancestors arrive here? Were they refugees
> or immigrants, nearly the whole population of Canada stem from one or
> the other group. Funny how the ones today like you spit on those
> trying to be here.


Mine were legal immigrants who arrived through the legal channels.
There are about 6 billion people in the world, many of whom do not enjoy
the prosperity that we benefit from thanks to people like my ancestors.
These guys from Ghana were illegal immigrants who were sneaking into the
country. They intentionally avoided established border crossings.



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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:59:48 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>>Gary attempted to write
>>>>
>>>> Why would someone his age even want this job?
>>>>
>>>Killary is 69, why would she want the job??
>>>
>>>The Donald is 70 years old. Why does anyone want to be
>>>president?
>>
>>I never understand that either. I guess it's called ambition. An alien
>>concept to me.
>
>Because you're a poor putz.

If you mean to say I'll never be any country's president, you're
absolutely right!

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:55:35 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:10:00 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 8:28:20 AM UTC-6, Gary
>>>
>>> Why would someone his age even want this job?
>>>
>>Killary is 69, why would she want the job??
>>
>>The Donald is 70 years old. Why does anyone want to be
>>president?
>
>It's really quite simple to comprehend, anyone with that much in
>assets hasn't much else meaningful to asertain other than POTUS. The
>Donald has always been power hungry and has obviously always been
>sucsessful. He has always endevered to succeed, I can't see him
>failing now.

Wait until he's impeached for sex tapes of him chasing Moscovite
prostitutes without even his hairpiece on.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:07:04 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-12 3:15 PM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:07:03 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-01-12 12:00 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to see proof of that last statement, definitely not true
>>>>>> of either refugees or immigrants in NS. I wonder though why it
>>>>>> surprises me that you would say it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you serious? You know that refugee claimants are eligible for
>>>>> welfare and for health care. The guy lost all his fingers. He is going
>>>>> to have a hard time finding work. You know they won't turn him down now.
>>>>> What is so hard for you to understand about that?
>>>>
>>>> That does not constitute proof. You assume he doesn't want to work.
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't say he had come here just to live off our welfare system. He
>>> and his friend entered Canada illegally across the prairies in winter
>>> and got lost and almost froze to death. He has lost all his fingers and
>>> a couple toes and he may yet lose his arms. That is going to make it
>>> difficult for him to find work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> He most likely does, he will maybe need some help to polish up his
>>>> speaking and be shown the ropes, but after that, most go on to work.
>>>
>>> What is he going to use to pull on those ropes? He now has no fingers,
>>> and he may not even have arms.
>>
>> You are showing your true colours as usual
>
>
>I am not surprised that you have once again replied with ad hominem.

Oh dear! Something YOU would never do!!

>asked a valid question. I want to know what sort of work you expect the
>man to do to earn his keep here. He had hands and fingers when he was in
>the US, but when he bungled his way across the border illegally in the
>middle of winter he ended up with such a serious case of frost bite that
>he will be a burden on our system for the rest of his life if he is
>allowed to stay.

Do you know that he is a manual worker? Or is that just your
assumption? He could be a white collar worker for all you know.
>
>
>
>>>>
>>>> They covered items recently about two of the refugee families who came
>>>> to NS from Syria - one in Antigonish is successfully operating a
>>>> chocolate making business but still needs translation by one of the
>>>> kids! Another one I can think of set herself up as an online
>>>> translator and is doing very well, not in the least concerned that all
>>>> help ends around now for most of them. Did you even know that even a
>>>> refugee only receives help for one year??? So much for languishing
>>>> for all their life on our welfare system.
>
>And what happens to them when that year is up? They don't get bounced
>out of the country or off welfare. According to a government site about
>refugee support "Financial support can last up to one year after a
>refugee arrives in Canada, or until they can support themselves,
>whichever occurs first."
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Great. Being refugees themselves, maybe the guy with the chocolate
>>> factory will offer a job to the one with no arms.
>>
>> And again
>
>We keep hearing about how grateful they are. For some reason you are
>repulsed by the suggestion that should be expected to extend help to
>others who were in their same situation.
>
>
>> So tell me - how did your ancestors arrive here? Were they refugees
>> or immigrants, nearly the whole population of Canada stem from one or
>> the other group. Funny how the ones today like you spit on those
>> trying to be here.
>
>
>Mine were legal immigrants who arrived through the legal channels.
>There are about 6 billion people in the world, many of whom do not enjoy
>the prosperity that we benefit from thanks to people like my ancestors.
>These guys from Ghana were illegal immigrants who were sneaking into the
>country. They intentionally avoided established border crossings.
>
They were refugees - weren't you lucky your ancestors weren't. Go
back far enough and you'll find something, I know on my mothers side
they were expelled from the Belgium area in the 1500s and went to
Marlborough and Chippenham and set up carpet making there. They were
refugees, it happens. What do you want done to these two unfortunate
men?
>
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On 2017-01-12 5:40 PM, wrote:

>>>>> That does not constitute proof. You assume he doesn't want to work.
>>>>

>>>>> He most likely does, he will maybe need some help to polish up his
>>>>> speaking and be shown the ropes, but after that, most go on to work.
>>>>
>>>> What is he going to use to pull on those ropes? He now has no fingers,
>>>> and he may not even have arms.
>>>
>>> You are showing your true colours as usual
>>
>>
>> I am not surprised that you have once again replied with ad hominem.
>
> Oh dear! Something YOU would never do!!
>


Not instead of a legitimate rebuttal.



>> asked a valid question. I want to know what sort of work you expect the
>> man to do to earn his keep here. He had hands and fingers when he was in
>> the US, but when he bungled his way across the border illegally in the
>> middle of winter he ended up with such a serious case of frost bite that
>> he will be a burden on our system for the rest of his life if he is
>> allowed to stay.
>
> Do you know that he is a manual worker? Or is that just your
> assumption? He could be a white collar worker for all you know.

How silly of me not to realize that he could be a white collar worker
and not need hands and fingers to use pens, keyboard, file cabinets, to
dial a telephone. What type of office work are you suggesting for him?




>>> So tell me - how did your ancestors arrive here? Were they refugees
>>> or immigrants, nearly the whole population of Canada stem from one or
>>> the other group. Funny how the ones today like you spit on those
>>> trying to be here.
>>
>>
>> Mine were legal immigrants who arrived through the legal channels.
>> There are about 6 billion people in the world, many of whom do not enjoy
>> the prosperity that we benefit from thanks to people like my ancestors.
>> These guys from Ghana were illegal immigrants who were sneaking into the
>> country. They intentionally avoided established border crossings.
>>
> They were refugees - weren't you lucky your ancestors weren't.

They were refugees who were already in a safe country.

> Go
> back far enough and you'll find something, I know on my mothers side
> they were expelled from the Belgium area in the 1500s and went to
> Marlborough and Chippenham and set up carpet making there. They were
> refugees, it happens. What do you want done to these two unfortunate
> men?

Well, we could send them to your town so you can look after them.




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Joan, it is a common thought that Trump didn't think he would actually win the election,
so has been totally clueless about procedural rules, ethics rules, etc. So far his advisors
haven't done as good a job of keeping him on the straight and narrow, as his fellow party
members.

As to "the wall," according to him, our Congress will pay for it so it gets done, but the
Mexican government "will reimburse us." This idea has been a source of comedy for
the Mexican president, who has said, "nope."

N.

On 1/12/2017 5:58 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-12 5:40 PM, wrote:
>
>>>>>> That does not constitute proof. You assume he doesn't want to work.
>>>>>
>
>>>>>> He most likely does, he will maybe need some help to polish up his
>>>>>> speaking and be shown the ropes, but after that, most go on to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is he going to use to pull on those ropes? He now has no fingers,
>>>>> and he may not even have arms.
>>>>
>>>> You are showing your true colours as usual
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not surprised that you have once again replied with ad hominem.
>>
>> Oh dear! Something YOU would never do!!
>>
>
>
> Not instead of a legitimate rebuttal.
>
>
>
>>> asked a valid question. I want to know what sort of work you expect the
>>> man to do to earn his keep here. He had hands and fingers when he was in
>>> the US, but when he bungled his way across the border illegally in the
>>> middle of winter he ended up with such a serious case of frost bite that
>>> he will be a burden on our system for the rest of his life if he is
>>> allowed to stay.
>>
>> Do you know that he is a manual worker? Or is that just your
>> assumption? He could be a white collar worker for all you know.
>
> How silly of me not to realize that he could be a white collar worker
> and not need hands and fingers to use pens, keyboard, file cabinets, to
> dial a telephone. What type of office work are you suggesting for him?
>

With a little imagination, there are many jobs he can do. Implant sign
holders on the end of his arm stumps. One will say "stop" the other
"slow" and he can do traffic control for highway workers.

With those same implants he can be a flag holder for parades. No hands
needed to say "Welcome to WalMart" No hands needed to be a hat model.
Every four to six weeks he can be a teaching aid at barber school.

Put light stick in to implants and he can park aircraft at the terminal.
Just don't ask him to pump fuel though.

On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 3:55:47 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:10:00 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 8:28:20 AM UTC-6, Gary
> >>
> >> Why would someone his age even want this job?
> >>
> >Killary is 69, why would she want the job??
> >
> >The Donald is 70 years old. Why does anyone want to be
> >president?
>
> It's really quite simple to comprehend, anyone with that much in
> assets hasn't much else meaningful to asertain other than POTUS. The
> Donald has always been power hungry and has obviously always been
> sucsessful. He has always endevered to succeed, I can't see him
> failing now.
>
>
Oh, I know why he or anyone else endeavors to become president.
Power, greed, ambition (there's that word again), some think
they deserve it and some truly do want to make a difference
but they are few and far between.