From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
http://tiny.cc/plcbiy

On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 5:02:26 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>
> From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
> http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>
>
I love a good casserole but those pictures are stomach
lurching.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:53:25 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 5:02:26 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>
>> From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>> http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>>
>>
>I love a good casserole but those pictures are stomach
>lurching.

I have to agree and hate the idea of the 'Shepherds Pie' one

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:

> From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>http://tiny.cc/plcbiy

Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:53:25 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 5:02:26 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>
>> From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>> http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>>
>>
>I love a good casserole but those pictures are stomach
>lurching.

Agree, most of those didn't look very nice.

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>
> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!

It's 20F and winds of 20-30mph here right now. ugggh. ;-o

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:22:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>>
>> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>
>It's 20F and winds of 20-30mph here right now. ugggh. ;-o

Sounds unpleasant with that wind. We've had 20F (-6C) here once. It
almost killed our young mango tree. Normally it doesn't get lower than
-1C or -2C.

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 21:42:50 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:22:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>>> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>>>
>>> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>>
>>It's 20F and winds of 20-30mph here right now. ugggh. ;-o
>
>Sounds unpleasant with that wind. We've had 20F (-6C) here once. It
>almost killed our young mango tree. Normally it doesn't get lower than
>-1C or -2C.

-9C today with a 'feels like' -13C factor due to the wind. We had
about six inches of snow during the night but the wind at least
stopped it piling up on tree branches and bringing them down. It's
going to be a messy day but hopefully they will get it cleared before
rush hour tomorrow.

On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:50:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>
> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!

It was -17 C yesterday morning. Today is warmer at -13 C.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2017-01-08 5:42 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:22:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>>>> http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>>>
>>> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>>
>> It's 20F and winds of 20-30mph here right now. ugggh. ;-o
>
> Sounds unpleasant with that wind. We've had 20F (-6C) here once. It
> almost killed our young mango tree. Normally it doesn't get lower than
> -1C or -2C.
>
We had -15 yesterday morning when I went out with the dog. There was
no wind at all. It was quite pleasant, though I was bundled up. It
would be a much different story if it had been windy.

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:22:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
> >
> > > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
> > >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
> >
> > Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>
> It's 20F and winds of 20-30mph here right now. ugggh. ;-o

We also have 20-30 mph wind with gusts up to 50. Lots of rain and
lots more expected.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 08:46:22 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 21:42:50 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:22:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>>>> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>>>>
>>>> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>>>
>>>It's 20F and winds of 20-30mph here right now. ugggh. ;-o
>>
>>Sounds unpleasant with that wind. We've had 20F (-6C) here once. It
>>almost killed our young mango tree. Normally it doesn't get lower than
>>-1C or -2C.
>
>-9C today with a 'feels like' -13C factor due to the wind. We had
>about six inches of snow during the night but the wind at least
>stopped it piling up on tree branches and bringing them down. It's
>going to be a messy day but hopefully they will get it cleared before
>rush hour tomorrow.

I don't miss conditions like that. Always emigrate towards the sun,
not away from it.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:19:07 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:50:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>>
>> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>
>It was -17 C yesterday morning. Today is warmer at -13 C.

Yes, that's considerably warmer

On 2017-01-08 12:53 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:19:07 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

>> It was -17 C yesterday morning. Today is warmer at -13 C.
>
> Yes, that's considerably warmer

Perhaps you have to live in a climate like that to understand how much
nice it seems at -13 after having had -17. People tend to adapt quickly
to the climate. Around here people start wearing long sleeves on
September when the temperature drops below +20. If it gets about +5 in
March they will be outside in short sleeves.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 13:38:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-08 12:53 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:19:07 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>
>>> It was -17 C yesterday morning. Today is warmer at -13 C.
>>
>> Yes, that's considerably warmer
>
>Perhaps you have to live in a climate like that to understand how much
>nice it seems at -13 after having had -17.

I have lived in a climate like that and I know that the difference
between -17 and -13 matters less than whether you have wind with that.

On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:19:07 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:50:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
> >>
> >> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
> >> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
> >>
> >> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
> >
> >It was -17 C yesterday morning. Today is warmer at -13 C.
>
> Yes, that's considerably warmer

You'd be surprised. At -17 C the snot freezes right in your
nose when you inhale. No so at -13 C.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:51:15 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:19:07 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:50:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>> >> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>> >>
>> >> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>> >
>> >It was -17 C yesterday morning. Today is warmer at -13 C.
>>
>> Yes, that's considerably warmer
>
>You'd be surprised. At -17 C the snot freezes right in your
>nose when you inhale. No so at -13 C.

So if you have a runny nose, -17 is better than -13.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

> We also have 20-30 mph wind with gusts up to 50. Lots of rain and
> lots more expected.

Yep, same here in the San Joaquin Valley, the rain is welcome in many ways,
not so good in others, but the wind has been awful. I have two large trees
in my yard, and as soon as the weather is better, will have them pruned
quite a bit. If you're out and about, take care.

Cheri

On 2017-01-08 1:51 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 05:19:07 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:50:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>>>>> http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>>>>
>>>> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>>>
>>> It was -17 C yesterday morning. Today is warmer at -13 C.
>>
>> Yes, that's considerably warmer
>
> You'd be surprised. At -17 C the snot freezes right in your
> nose when you inhale. No so at -13 C.
>
>
That about sums it up. That and squeaky snow.

On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 10:51:26 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 08:46:22 -0400, wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 21:42:50 +1100, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:22:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >>
> >>>Bruce wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
> >>>> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
> >>>>
> >>>> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
> >>>
> >>>It's 20F and winds of 20-30mph here right now. ugggh. ;-o
> >>
> >>Sounds unpleasant with that wind. We've had 20F (-6C) here once. It
> >>almost killed our young mango tree. Normally it doesn't get lower than
> >>-1C or -2C.
> >
> >-9C today with a 'feels like' -13C factor due to the wind. We had
> >about six inches of snow during the night but the wind at least
> >stopped it piling up on tree branches and bringing them down. It's
> >going to be a messy day but hopefully they will get it cleared before
> >rush hour tomorrow.
>
> I don't miss conditions like that. Always emigrate towards the sun,
> not away from it.

Keep going...someday you'll make it...better get an asbestos suit though.
====

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 14:25:02 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 10:51:26 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 08:46:22 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 21:42:50 +1100, Bruce >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:22:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Bruce wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>> >>>> >http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>> >>>
>> >>>It's 20F and winds of 20-30mph here right now. ugggh. ;-o
>> >>
>> >>Sounds unpleasant with that wind. We've had 20F (-6C) here once. It
>> >>almost killed our young mango tree. Normally it doesn't get lower than
>> >>-1C or -2C.
>> >
>> >-9C today with a 'feels like' -13C factor due to the wind. We had
>> >about six inches of snow during the night but the wind at least
>> >stopped it piling up on tree branches and bringing them down. It's
>> >going to be a messy day but hopefully they will get it cleared before
>> >rush hour tomorrow.
>>
>> I don't miss conditions like that. Always emigrate towards the sun,
>> not away from it.
>
>Keep going...someday you'll make it...better get an asbestos suit though.
>====

I already did it.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:53:25 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 5:02:26 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> >>
> >> From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
> >> http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
> >>
> >>
> >I love a good casserole but those pictures are stomach
> >lurching.
>
> I have to agree and hate the idea of the 'Shepherds Pie' one

It's more or less moussaka, which is delicious. Lamb and aubergine go
really well together.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/moussaka_01004

Janet UK

Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Bruce wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 16:02:27 -0700, graham > wrote:
> >
> > > From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
> > > http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
> >
> > Cold weather? It's going to be close to a 100 F this week!
>
> It's 20F and winds of 20-30mph here right now. ugggh. ;-o

Our high was 23F I think? (Sunday). I know it's silly sounding to those
north of here, but they have better equipment to clear it.

BTW, TV just flashed banners on code red for driving? I've not seen
that before. Our snow isn't bad compared to others. It is true our
side streets are at about 10 inches and the few idiots to parked on the
streets here have a fairly high incidence of dings.

--

On 2017-01-08 6:12 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:53:25 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 5:02:26 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From the Washington Post, a bunch of ideas:
>>>> http://tiny.cc/plcbiy
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I love a good casserole but those pictures are stomach
>>> lurching.
>>
>> I have to agree and hate the idea of the 'Shepherds Pie' one
>
> It's more or less moussaka, which is delicious. Lamb and aubergine go
> really well together.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/moussaka_01004
>
> Janet UK
>
At least they got the principal ingredient right for a shepherd's pie!