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On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:03:43 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:31:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>I am not a fan of cooked leaves. Spinach is edible when cooked with
>>other things, but it is not good on its own. It is not too bed if just
>>barely cooked, but it develops a nasty taste when cooked too much. I
>>tried Swiss Chard once. That was enough for me. I have had kale cooked.
>>Not great. It is okay raw in salad or in soups. I know that some
>>people love greens, but I don't think I am likely too. It is not a
>>common dish around here so I am not likely to stumble upon it.

>
>You'd be horrified what I eat here then
>
> I just *love* leafy greens, I regularly make an omelet that barely
>holds together because it's so full of parsley, chard, spinach and
>kale... sometimes nettles too. I'll cook it just long enough for the
>egg to solidify and then I eat it. In fact that was breakfast
>yesterday morning.


Nettles. I've heard that the new tender growth is what you want. Do
you find and pick your own or are you able to purchase?
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>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:32:31 -0800 (PST), "
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>
>>On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 10:56:33 AM UTC-6, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> >"jmcquown" wrote in message news >>> >
>>> >A large bunch of leafy greens which are cooked. In the Southern US
>>> >states that usually means turnip greens, mustard greens or collard
>>> >greens. Those are the traditional greens to which one adds salt pork
>>> >for flavour as they cook.
>>> >
>>> >Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> IMO, (this isn't really my field) The kind of greens Jill is talking
>>> about often require somewhat lengthy cooking. The greens you may be
>>> familiar with, spinach, kale, chard, cook quickly. The taste may be
>>> more robust in the former. How'd I do, Jill?
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>

>>I ain't Jill but you nailed it. Turnip greens do require lenghty
>>cooking and fatback improves their taste immensely. And please,
>>remove most if not all of the tough stems, please.
>>
>>Older folks prefer their greesn, usually, after they've been hit
>>by a frost. It gives them that 'bite.' Greens that have not
>>been subjected to a frost are much milder in taste.

>
>frost is said to improve kale,


Yes, it does, same for other Brassicas, parsnips and others. Increases
the sugars in the plant, apparently.

>Brussels sprouts, horseradish, probably
>a lot of others I can't think of right now. Oh, parsnips do get sweet
>after a really good frost.


Oh, I should have read further before typing a reply
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>dandelions are another ancient green


Quite bitter though, something of a last resort IMO. Same for
sorrel... very high in oxalic acid.
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>On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:03:43 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:31:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>I am not a fan of cooked leaves. Spinach is edible when cooked with
>>>other things, but it is not good on its own. It is not too bed if just
>>>barely cooked, but it develops a nasty taste when cooked too much. I
>>>tried Swiss Chard once. That was enough for me. I have had kale cooked.
>>>Not great. It is okay raw in salad or in soups. I know that some
>>>people love greens, but I don't think I am likely too. It is not a
>>>common dish around here so I am not likely to stumble upon it.

>>
>>You'd be horrified what I eat here then
>>
>> I just *love* leafy greens, I regularly make an omelet that barely
>>holds together because it's so full of parsley, chard, spinach and
>>kale... sometimes nettles too. I'll cook it just long enough for the
>>egg to solidify and then I eat it. In fact that was breakfast
>>yesterday morning.

>
>Nettles. I've heard that the new tender growth is what you want.


Yes, the new growth is best. Quite delicate and doesn't need much
cooking at all.

>Do you find and pick your own or are you able to purchase?


I have plenty growing on my property Janet, I weed it out just enough
to keep it under control but would never wish to eliminate it. To be
clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle. I understand the term
'nettle' is used for many different plants.
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On 14-Jan-2017, Gary > wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > "jmcquown" wrote:
> > Ah yes! I generally use salt pork when making bean soup but it's also
> > excellent in a mess o' greens.
> >
> > Jill
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > Ok Someone define a mess o' greens please?

>
>
> Hi O. "mess o greens" are just various vegetable greens sauteed in
> oil along with some flavors added. Like salt pork and/or garlic.

In the part of the US where I live, and have lived or visited, mess o'
greens just means "some"; it could be any quantity from a large pot to a
plentiful serving. Also, the greens (collard, mustard, turnip) are cooked;
but, aren't often sauteed. In fact, in my experience, they are more likely
boiled or braised. IME, it is mostly the trendy greens (Swish chard, kale)
are sauteed.


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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 1/14/2017 6:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > "jmcquown" wrote in message news > >
> > On 1/13/2017 10:52 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> >> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 7:18:36 AM UTC-8, notbob wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It sez: Owen's Original Salt Pork. "Boldly Seasoned".
> >>>
> >>> It's about the size of pkg o' Oscar Mayer lunch meat. Looks like
> >>> mostly fat with 1/4 of it having some lean meat.
> >>>
> >>> nb
> >>
> >> Then it is a "seasoning" meat for recipes like beans, greens, etc. I
> >> cannot cook a mess o greens without salt pork, just wouldn't taste
> >> right.
> >>

> > Ah yes! I generally use salt pork when making bean soup but it's also
> > excellent in a mess o' greens.
> >
> > Jill
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > Ok Someone define a mess o' greens please?
> >
> >
> >

> A large bunch of leafy greens which are cooked. In the Southern US
> states that usually means turnip greens, mustard greens or collard
> greens. Those are the traditional greens to which one adds salt pork
> for flavour as they cook.
>
> Jill
>
> ===================
>
> Thanks! I have never eaten or cooked those greens
>
> What have I been missing? <g>


Not much.

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On 1/14/2017 10:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> A large bunch of leafy greens which are cooked. In the Southern US
> states that usually means turnip greens, mustard greens or collard
> greens. Those are the traditional greens to which one adds salt pork
> for flavour as they cook.
>
> Jill
>
> ===================
>
> Thanks! I have never eaten or cooked those greens
>
> What have I been missing? <g>
>


IMO, you've missed eating soggy grass. OTOH, others love them. They
are good for you too. If you like cooked spinach you will like the
greens. I do like greens eaw in a salad though.


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On 2017-01-14 3:03 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:31:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I am not a fan of cooked leaves. Spinach is edible when cooked with
>> other things, but it is not good on its own. It is not too bed if just
>> barely cooked, but it develops a nasty taste when cooked too much. I
>> tried Swiss Chard once. That was enough for me. I have had kale cooked.
>> Not great. It is okay raw in salad or in soups. I know that some
>> people love greens, but I don't think I am likely too. It is not a
>> common dish around here so I am not likely to stumble upon it.

>
> You'd be horrified what I eat here then
>
> I just *love* leafy greens, I regularly make an omelet that barely
> holds together because it's so full of parsley, chard, spinach and
> kale... sometimes nettles too. I'll cook it just long enough for the
> egg to solidify and then I eat it. In fact that was breakfast
> yesterday morning.



I have to say that eggs and spinach are a great combination. My son
introduced me to scrambled eggs with spinach and hot sauce. It is
delicious, especially when the eggs are still wet. He tends to cook the
daylights out of eggs.



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> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:08:13 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:50:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> "Greens" are slave food. All the things the plantation owners didn't
>>> want, the slaves turned scrap food into delicious recipes, just dealing
>>> with what they were given. hence...the "soul food". Most of that is
>>> super good!

>>
>> Kale was widely used by the early Egyptians. Greens have been eaten
>> for thousands of years.
>> http://cookingreens.com/history-of-dark-leafy/
>> I don't have time to research now, but I know I have seen info on the
>> kinds of things planted in colonial and plantation gardens and
>> 'greens' are there. I remember being surprised by the 'modern'
>> gardening methods used in those early times.
>> Not just slave food.

>
> Of course it isn't just 'slave food'. It's been eaten around the world
> for eons. LOL...
>


There have been slaves around the world.

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:38:34 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2017-01-14 3:06 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:08:13 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:50:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Greens" are slave food. All the things the plantation owners didn't
>>>> want, the slaves turned scrap food into delicious recipes, just dealing
>>>> with what they were given. hence...the "soul food". Most of that is
>>>> super good!
>>>
>>> Kale was widely used by the early Egyptians. Greens have been eaten
>>> for thousands of years.
>>> http://cookingreens.com/history-of-dark-leafy/
>>> I don't have time to research now, but I know I have seen info on the
>>> kinds of things planted in colonial and plantation gardens and
>>> 'greens' are there. I remember being surprised by the 'modern'
>>> gardening methods used in those early times.
>>> Not just slave food.

>>
>> Of course it isn't just 'slave food'. It's been eaten around the world
>> for eons. LOL...
>>

>
>There have been slaves around the world.



*Really* Dave? Well, thanks so much for enlightening me.


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On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:38:08 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2017-01-14 3:03 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:31:25 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I am not a fan of cooked leaves. Spinach is edible when cooked with
>>> other things, but it is not good on its own. It is not too bed if just
>>> barely cooked, but it develops a nasty taste when cooked too much. I
>>> tried Swiss Chard once. That was enough for me. I have had kale cooked.
>>> Not great. It is okay raw in salad or in soups. I know that some
>>> people love greens, but I don't think I am likely too. It is not a
>>> common dish around here so I am not likely to stumble upon it.

>>
>> You'd be horrified what I eat here then
>>
>> I just *love* leafy greens, I regularly make an omelet that barely
>> holds together because it's so full of parsley, chard, spinach and
>> kale... sometimes nettles too. I'll cook it just long enough for the
>> egg to solidify and then I eat it. In fact that was breakfast
>> yesterday morning.

>
>
>I have to say that eggs and spinach are a great combination. My son
>introduced me to scrambled eggs with spinach and hot sauce. It is
>delicious, especially when the eggs are still wet. He tends to cook the
>daylights out of eggs.


That's a crime, IMO. Eggs should never be overcooked. Another nice
combination is spinach and ricotta in ravioli, filo pastry or similar.
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On 1/14/2017 12:56 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 8:25:00 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
>>>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 3:10:28 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:59:00 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This "Sqwerts" guy/gal is going to get his/her face smashed one of these days. Such vulgarity...really it is just plain stupid.
>>>>>> ====
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you even acknowledge it's existence? You're an even bigger
>>>>> idiot than the troll is. One look at the nym and it's obvious and
>>>>> simple to killfile.
>>>>
>>>> Well, little buddy, I don't have a regular NEWSREADER so I can't KILLFILE. I don't spend all my time on this crap like you do.
>>>> Besides, I'd have to KILLFILE you and then I would miss out on your wonderful observations and helpful hints. Your favorite
>>>> sheep is waiting...scoot.
>>>
>>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>>
>>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>>

>>
>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>> =====

>
> He's only a nuisance because of people like you who gives it exactly
> what it wants. Most everyone else does the obvious and just ignores
> it. Your argument that you don't use a newsreader with a killfile is
> just idiotic.
>


3rd person attention works too, you rabbit killing WOG!
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On 1/14/2017 12:57 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:53:42 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/14/2017 1:34 PM, Roy wrote:
>>
>>>>> Well, little buddy, I don't have a regular NEWSREADER so I can't KILLFILE. I don't spend all my time on this crap like you do.
>>>>> Besides, I'd have to KILLFILE you and then I would miss out on your wonderful observations and helpful hints. Your favorite
>>>>> sheep is waiting...scoot.
>>>>
>>>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>>>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>>>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>>>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>>> =====
>>>

>>
>> You can vote and lose if you'd like. You have no excuse. Get a FREE
>> newsreader like Thunderbird, use a FREE news service like
>> eternalsptember, set up filters. You have nothing to bitch about as you
>> have options and choose not to use them.
>>
>> Moderation and other commie methods will never happen on RFC. Read the
>> First Amendment and see it in action right here. .

>
> Tell it like it is Ed I don't think Roy is cut out for Usenet.
>

You, otoh, are precisely why this medium is almost DEAD!

Ya rabbit-killing WOG.
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:20:16 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" wrote in message news >
>On 1/14/2017 6:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >>
>> On 1/13/2017 10:52 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 7:18:36 AM UTC-8, notbob wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It sez: Owen's Original Salt Pork. "Boldly Seasoned".
>>>>
>>>> It's about the size of pkg o' Oscar Mayer lunch meat. Looks like
>>>> mostly fat with 1/4 of it having some lean meat.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> Then it is a "seasoning" meat for recipes like beans, greens, etc. I
>>> cannot cook a mess o greens without salt pork, just wouldn't taste
>>> right.
>>>

>> Ah yes! I generally use salt pork when making bean soup but it's also
>> excellent in a mess o' greens.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>> ==============
>>
>> Ok Someone define a mess o' greens please?
>>
>>
>>

>A large bunch of leafy greens which are cooked. In the Southern US
>states that usually means turnip greens, mustard greens or collard
>greens. Those are the traditional greens to which one adds salt pork
>for flavour as they cook.
>
>Jill
>
>===================
>
>Thanks! I have never eaten or cooked those greens
>
>What have I been missing? <g>


IMO, (this isn't really my field) The kind of greens Jill is talking
about often require somewhat lengthy cooking. The greens you may be
familiar with, spinach, kale, chard, cook quickly. The taste may be
more robust in the former. How'd I do, Jill?
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================

The only one of those I grow is kale (Cavolo Nero) and yes, I lightly steam
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On 1/14/2017 1:06 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:08:13 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:50:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> "Greens" are slave food. All the things the plantation owners didn't
>>> want, the slaves turned scrap food into delicious recipes, just dealing
>>> with what they were given. hence...the "soul food". Most of that is
>>> super good!

>>
>> Kale was widely used by the early Egyptians. Greens have been eaten
>> for thousands of years.
>> http://cookingreens.com/history-of-dark-leafy/
>> I don't have time to research now, but I know I have seen info on the
>> kinds of things planted in colonial and plantation gardens and
>> 'greens' are there. I remember being surprised by the 'modern'
>> gardening methods used in those early times.
>> Not just slave food.

>
> Of course it isn't just 'slave food'.


It was in the USA, you rabbit killing racist wog!




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On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:32:31 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 10:56:33 AM UTC-6, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> >"jmcquown" wrote in message news >> >
>> >A large bunch of leafy greens which are cooked. In the Southern US
>> >states that usually means turnip greens, mustard greens or collard
>> >greens. Those are the traditional greens to which one adds salt pork
>> >for flavour as they cook.
>> >
>> >Jill

>>
>>
>> IMO, (this isn't really my field) The kind of greens Jill is talking
>> about often require somewhat lengthy cooking. The greens you may be
>> familiar with, spinach, kale, chard, cook quickly. The taste may be
>> more robust in the former. How'd I do, Jill?
>> Janet US
>>
>>

>I ain't Jill but you nailed it. Turnip greens do require lenghty
>cooking and fatback improves their taste immensely. And please,
>remove most if not all of the tough stems, please.
>
>Older folks prefer their greesn, usually, after they've been hit
>by a frost. It gives them that 'bite.' Greens that have not
>been subjected to a frost are much milder in taste.


frost is said to improve kale, Brussels sprouts, horseradish, probably
a lot of others I can't think of right now. Oh, parsnips do get sweet
after a really good frost.
Janet US

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Oh I do grow Brussels sprouts but I don't really think of them as just
leaves .... although what else are they LOL



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On 1/14/2017 1:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-14 3:06 PM, Je�us wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:08:13 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:50:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Greens" are slave food. All the things the plantation owners didn't
>>>> want, the slaves turned scrap food into delicious recipes, just dealing
>>>> with what they were given. hence...the "soul food". Most of that is
>>>> super good!
>>>
>>> Kale was widely used by the early Egyptians. Greens have been eaten
>>> for thousands of years.
>>> http://cookingreens.com/history-of-dark-leafy/
>>> I don't have time to research now, but I know I have seen info on the
>>> kinds of things planted in colonial and plantation gardens and
>>> 'greens' are there. I remember being surprised by the 'modern'
>>> gardening methods used in those early times.
>>> Not just slave food.

>>
>> Of course it isn't just 'slave food'. It's been eaten around the world
>> for eons. LOL...
>>

>
> There have been slaves around the world.
>


Anywhere the Englies sailed and invaded, sure.
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> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:53:42 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:


>>Moderation and other commie methods will never happen on RFC.


There usta be a very strict moderator on one of the gun newsgroups
(rec.guns?).

> Tell it like it is Ed I don't think Roy is cut out for Usenet.


I don't think Ed knows Usenet, all that well.

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On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:43:30 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 1/14/2017 6:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > "jmcquown" wrote in message news > >
> > On 1/13/2017 10:52 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> >> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 7:18:36 AM UTC-8, notbob wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It sez: Owen's Original Salt Pork. "Boldly Seasoned".
> >>>
> >>> It's about the size of pkg o' Oscar Mayer lunch meat. Looks like
> >>> mostly fat with 1/4 of it having some lean meat.
> >>>
> >>> nb
> >>
> >> Then it is a "seasoning" meat for recipes like beans, greens, etc. I
> >> cannot cook a mess o greens without salt pork, just wouldn't taste
> >> right.
> >>

> > Ah yes! I generally use salt pork when making bean soup but it's also
> > excellent in a mess o' greens.
> >
> > Jill
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > Ok Someone define a mess o' greens please?
> >
> >
> >

> A large bunch of leafy greens which are cooked. In the Southern US
> states that usually means turnip greens, mustard greens or collard
> greens. Those are the traditional greens to which one adds salt pork
> for flavour as they cook.
>
> Jill
>
> ===================
>
> Thanks! I have never eaten or cooked those greens
>
> What have I been missing? <g>
>
>
>
>
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We don't use much collard or mustard greens over here. We do have taro. The
stuff is having a resurgence in Hawaii as the new generation of cooks learn
how to use it. I think one day, it may find it's way on the tables of Europe
and the mainland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g06WbEb-NQ

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Thanks) The only place I have ever heard of collard greens is here
Mustard greens? not sure. But of course it might be just that I haven't
had any interest in them)

D loves kale though so I grow plenty of that))



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On 14 Jan 2017 20:51:31 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
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>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:53:42 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

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>>>Moderation and other commie methods will never happen on RFC.

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>There usta be a very strict moderator on one of the gun newsgroups
>(rec.guns?).


mod.rec.guns?

>> Tell it like it is Ed I don't think Roy is cut out for Usenet.

>
>I don't think Ed knows Usenet, all that well.


How so? Or is that a comment on net cops?


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>On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>
>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton

>
>In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>never be a part of NORMAL society.
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Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
feed this troll.
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On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:

> clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle.


I am more than familiar with the plant. We usta call 'em "bull
nettle". How I discovered 'em is a tad bit embarrassing, but I was
jes a wee tyke of 8 yrs and the story IS pretty funny.

I decided to relieve myself in the great outdoors. While peeing, I
noticed this tall thin plant, so I playfully peed on it. My 'stream'
was strong enough that it pushed the plant away from me. When my
'stream' ceased, the plant swung back. Guess where it swung back to!?
Yes. The very tip of my winkie. Yee-Ow!!

That was my introduction to stinging nettle. True story.

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> Quite bitter though, something of a last resort IMO.


Yet, being pushed by trendy restos as --well-- trendy!

I always gotta kick outta the Texas resto that claimed "No Lawn Clippings"
on its salad menu.

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> And people seem to go ape shit over iceberg lettuce. Nothing but
> water, pretty tasteless, and no vitamins. But people will pile
> their plates high with the stuff and think they're eating something
> scrumptious.


For me, I prefer iceburg lettuce for the crunch factor only. I know
it's not all that nutricious. It's good for texture though.
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> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 10:51:07 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> >
> > "Greens" are slave food. All the things the plantation owners didn't
> > want, the slaves turned scrap food into delicious recipes, just dealing
> > with what they were given. hence...the "soul food". Most of that is
> > super good!
> >
> >

> Really?? Slave food? My family had been eating 'soul food' for
> generations long before someone in Harlem, NY ever opened a restaurant
> and tacked a gimmicky name on it. We just called it food and never
> owned slaves.


Slave food goes way back longer than you are talking about. I read a lot
of history and many of the "soul food" really was leftover that the
plantation owners didn't want. The slaves turned lemons into lemonade.


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On 14 Jan 2017 21:06:16 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
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>> clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle.

>
>I am more than familiar with the plant. We usta call 'em "bull
>nettle". How I discovered 'em is a tad bit embarrassing, but I was
>jes a wee tyke of 8 yrs and the story IS pretty funny.
>
>I decided to relieve myself in the great outdoors. While peeing, I
>noticed this tall thin plant, so I playfully peed on it. My 'stream'
>was strong enough that it pushed the plant away from me. When my
>'stream' ceased, the plant swung back. Guess where it swung back to!?
>Yes. The very tip of my winkie. Yee-Ow!!
>
>That was my introduction to stinging nettle. True story.


Heh, that's quite an introduction

I did pee on an electric fence in my late teens, not realising the
fence was electrified (cattle station). It wasn't a good thing at all.
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>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:12:24 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
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>
>
>>dandelions are another ancient green

>
>Quite bitter though, something of a last resort IMO. Same for
>sorrel... very high in oxalic acid.


I think sorrel's more for one or two shredded leaves through a salad.
I think it's related to dock leaf.
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> " wrote:
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>> And people seem to go ape shit over iceberg lettuce. Nothing but
>> water, pretty tasteless, and no vitamins. But people will pile
>> their plates high with the stuff and think they're eating something
>> scrumptious.

>
> For me, I prefer iceburg lettuce for the crunch factor only. I know
> it's not all that nutricious. It's good for texture though.




It doesn't have to be nutritious to be tasty, same with spices and such. I
like iceberg lettuce the best myself.

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On 14 Jan 2017 21:11:33 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
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>> Quite bitter though, something of a last resort IMO.

>
>Yet, being pushed by trendy restos as --well-- trendy!
>
>I always gotta kick outta the Texas resto that claimed "No Lawn Clippings"
>on its salad menu.


I guess 'lawn clippings' are for commies and *******s
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> I did pee on an electric fence in my late teens, not realising the
> fence was electrified (cattle station). It wasn't a good thing at all.


I might've done that. Don't recall.

I did have a run-in with an e-fence, though. Felt like someone
hitting my thumb with a hammer, sixty times per second.

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 08:20:40 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On 14 Jan 2017 21:11:33 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>> Quite bitter though, something of a last resort IMO.

>>
>>Yet, being pushed by trendy restos as --well-- trendy!
>>
>>I always gotta kick outta the Texas resto that claimed "No Lawn Clippings"
>>on its salad menu.

>
>I guess 'lawn clippings' are for commies and *******s


I guess that, in Texas, when they see something green, they pull out
their gun.
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On 14 Jan 2017 21:24:20 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
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>> I did pee on an electric fence in my late teens, not realising the
>> fence was electrified (cattle station). It wasn't a good thing at all.

>
>I might've done that. Don't recall.
>
>I did have a run-in with an e-fence, though. Felt like someone
>hitting my thumb with a hammer, sixty times per second.


I have electric fences here, even though the 'bite' isn't all *that*
bad, I still hate being zapped nonetheless. I've also been hit
indirectly by lightning whilst in the shower.
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>On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 8:25:00 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
>> > On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 3:10:28 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>> > > On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:59:00 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >This "Sqwerts" guy/gal is going to get his/her face smashed one of these days. Such vulgarity...really it is just plain stupid.
>> > > >====
>> > >
>> > > Why do you even acknowledge it's existence? You're an even bigger
>> > > idiot than the troll is. One look at the nym and it's obvious and
>> > > simple to killfile.
>> >
>> > Well, little buddy, I don't have a regular NEWSREADER so I can't KILLFILE. I don't spend all my time on this crap like you do.
>> > Besides, I'd have to KILLFILE you and then I would miss out on your wonderful observations and helpful hints. Your favorite
>> > sheep is waiting...scoot.

>>
>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>
>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton

>
>In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>never be a part of NORMAL society.
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Well Boner only seems to come over the horizon occasionally, I can
live with that, I'd agree with Cindy, he's pitiable.
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 08:19:11 +1100, Bruce >
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>On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:13:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:12:24 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>dandelions are another ancient green

>>
>>Quite bitter though, something of a last resort IMO. Same for
>>sorrel... very high in oxalic acid.

>
>I think sorrel's more for one or two shredded leaves through a salad.


Yes, a little goes a long way.

>I think it's related to dock leaf.


Maybe?
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On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> >> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
> >> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
> >> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
> >>
> >> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
> >> in my direction. He's pitiable.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton

> >
> >In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
> >those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
> >nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
> >never be a part of NORMAL society.
> >=====

>
> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
> feed this troll.


Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
a fairly mild mannered one.
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
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>On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>
>> >> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>> >> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>> >> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>> >>
>> >> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>> >> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> >In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>> >those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>> >nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>> >never be a part of NORMAL society.
>> >=====

>>
>> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>> feed this troll.

>
>Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
>a fairly mild mannered one.
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That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.
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On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:50:51 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> >> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
> >> >> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
> >> >> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
> >> >> in my direction. He's pitiable.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >> >
> >> >In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
> >> >those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
> >> >nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
> >> >never be a part of NORMAL society.
> >> >=====
> >>
> >> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
> >> feed this troll.

> >
> >Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
> >a fairly mild mannered one.
> >=====

>
> That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.


Shaddup you ****ing asshole. You are ARE an example of a very STUPID dolt.
I've known some smart intelligent Aussies but you don't measure up at all.
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On 2017-01-14 4:06 PM, notbob wrote:
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>> clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle.

>
> I am more than familiar with the plant. We usta call 'em "bull
> nettle". How I discovered 'em is a tad bit embarrassing, but I was
> jes a wee tyke of 8 yrs and the story IS pretty funny.
>
> I decided to relieve myself in the great outdoors. While peeing, I
> noticed this tall thin plant, so I playfully peed on it. My 'stream'
> was strong enough that it pushed the plant away from me. When my
> 'stream' ceased, the plant swung back. Guess where it swung back to!?
> Yes. The very tip of my winkie. Yee-Ow!!
>
> That was my introduction to stinging nettle. True story.
>

Next time try peeing on an electric fence.

I grew up thinking that stinging nettles were a different type of plant
and always wondered what the fuss was about. Then one day I was weeding
my garden and grabbed hold of plant that didn't look dangerous. As soon
as I grabbed it I felt like I had stuck my hand into a hornet nest.


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>On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:50:51 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>> >> >> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>> >> >> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>> >> >> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >> >
>> >> >In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>> >> >those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>> >> >nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>> >> >never be a part of NORMAL society.
>> >> >=====
>> >>
>> >> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>> >> feed this troll.
>> >
>> >Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
>> >a fairly mild mannered one.
>> >=====

>>
>> That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.

>
>Shaddup you ****ing asshole. You are ARE an example of a very STUPID dolt.
>I've known some smart intelligent Aussies but you don't measure up at all.
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Keep on digging that hole even deeper Roy
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:18:26 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2017-01-14 4:06 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle.

>>
>> I am more than familiar with the plant. We usta call 'em "bull
>> nettle". How I discovered 'em is a tad bit embarrassing, but I was
>> jes a wee tyke of 8 yrs and the story IS pretty funny.
>>
>> I decided to relieve myself in the great outdoors. While peeing, I
>> noticed this tall thin plant, so I playfully peed on it. My 'stream'
>> was strong enough that it pushed the plant away from me. When my
>> 'stream' ceased, the plant swung back. Guess where it swung back to!?
>> Yes. The very tip of my winkie. Yee-Ow!!
>>
>> That was my introduction to stinging nettle. True story.
>>

>Next time try peeing on an electric fence.
>
>I grew up thinking that stinging nettles were a different type of plant
>and always wondered what the fuss was about. Then one day I was weeding
>my garden and grabbed hold of plant that didn't look dangerous. As soon
>as I grabbed it I felt like I had stuck my hand into a hornet nest.


For some reason stinging nettles don't bother me very much. I get
stung, but the pain doesn't seem that bad. Just a bit of irritation
for 10 or 20 seconds. That said, I *have* noticed that there are
variations in how strong the sting can be from place to place, genetic
variation at play, obviously.

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