On 2017-01-14 1:34 PM, Roy wrote:

> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
> never be a part of NORMAL society.


It is easier for all if people just filter them out and filter out those
who feed them. I have filtered a few people who posted way too many
replies to those who were already in my file, often doing nothing more
than complaining about their posts. I remember one in particular who
would reply to just about everything post by Lucas. He was already in
my filter because so many of his posts were so offensive. I never would
have to see his posts again, except that this woman kept kept replying
to him, quoting 50 lines or more of his offensive posts and then add a
line at the end to say that she thought his post was offensive. When I
posted that I was going to KF her is she didn't stop doing it she got
all bent out of shape and screamed that I could tell her who she could
post to. She ended up in the bozo bin with him.

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 3:17:00 PM UTC-7, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-14 4:06 PM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >> clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle.
> >
> > I am more than familiar with the plant. We usta call 'em "bull
> > nettle". How I discovered 'em is a tad bit embarrassing, but I was
> > jes a wee tyke of 8 yrs and the story IS pretty funny.
> >
> > I decided to relieve myself in the great outdoors. While peeing, I
> > noticed this tall thin plant, so I playfully peed on it. My 'stream'
> > was strong enough that it pushed the plant away from me. When my
> > 'stream' ceased, the plant swung back. Guess where it swung back to!?
> > Yes. The very tip of my winkie. Yee-Ow!!
> >
> > That was my introduction to stinging nettle. True story.
> >
> Next time try peeing on an electric fence.
>
> I grew up thinking that stinging nettles were a different type of plant
> and always wondered what the fuss was about. Then one day I was weeding
> my garden and grabbed hold of plant that didn't look dangerous. As soon
> as I grabbed it I felt like I had stuck my hand into a hornet nest.

Despite spraying and cultivating I still have some of those stinging nettles after 29 years on this farm of mine.
They are tough, We used to call them "horse nettles" when we lived on my Dad's farm.
I am selling my place for close to half a million dollars so won't have to deal with them anymore. The new people can deal with them.
=====

On 2017-01-14 7:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 8:25:00 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:

>> Well, little buddy, I don't have a regular NEWSREADER so I can't KILLFILE. I don't spend all my time on this crap like you do.
>> Besides, I'd have to KILLFILE you and then I would miss out on your wonderful observations and helpful hints. Your favorite
>> sheep is waiting...scoot.
>
> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>
> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
> in my direction. He's pitiable.

I could muster pity if he showed an effort to improve. I have long said
that anyone who is constantly nymshifting in order to get past filters
is throwing in the towel and admitting that they are complete losers.
They are here only to offend. They know that no one wants to read their
psychotic rambling. Instead of smartening up and acting normal they
delude themselves into thinking they can outsmart everyone else and
sneak in under a new name.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:14:10 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:50:51 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>> >> >those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>> >> >nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>> >> >never be a part of NORMAL society.
>> >> >=====
>> >>
>> >> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>> >> feed this troll.
>> >
>> >Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
>> >a fairly mild mannered one.
>> >=====
>>
>> That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.
>
>Shaddup you ****ing asshole.

"Such vulgarity...really it is just plain stupid." (Roy)

On 1/14/2017 2:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>>
>>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>> =====
>
> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
> feed this troll.
>

Says Bwuthie dear with a 3rd person mention, LOL!

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:37:59 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:14:10 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:50:51 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>>> >> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>>> >> >those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>>> >> >nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>>> >> >never be a part of NORMAL society.
>>> >> >=====
>>> >>
>>> >> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>>> >> feed this troll.
>>> >
>>> >Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
>>> >a fairly mild mannered one.
>>> >=====
>>>
>>> That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.
>>
>>Shaddup you ****ing asshole.
>
>"Such vulgarity...really it is just plain stupid." (Roy)

Yep. Stupid is as stupid does

On 1/14/2017 2:20 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On 14 Jan 2017 21:11:33 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>> Quite bitter though, something of a last resort IMO.
>>
>> Yet, being pushed by trendy restos as --well-- trendy!
>>
>> I always gotta kick outta the Texas resto that claimed "No Lawn Clippings"
>> on its salad menu.
>
> I guess 'lawn clippings' are for commies and *******s
>

That covers you.

On 1/14/2017 2:32 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 8:25:00 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
>>>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 3:10:28 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:59:00 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This "Sqwerts" guy/gal is going to get his/her face smashed one of these days. Such vulgarity...really it is just plain stupid.
>>>>>> ====
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you even acknowledge it's existence? You're an even bigger
>>>>> idiot than the troll is. One look at the nym and it's obvious and
>>>>> simple to killfile.
>>>>
>>>> Well, little buddy, I don't have a regular NEWSREADER so I can't KILLFILE. I don't spend all my time on this crap like you do.
>>>> Besides, I'd have to KILLFILE you and then I would miss out on your wonderful observations and helpful hints. Your favorite
>>>> sheep is waiting...scoot.
>>>
>>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>>
>>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>> =====
> Well Boner only seems to come over the horizon occasionally, I can
> live with that, I'd agree with Cindy, he's pitiable.
>
And you're a rancid old shrew.

Now FEED ME!

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:31:34 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 3:17:00 PM UTC-7, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-01-14 4:06 PM, notbob wrote:
>> > On 2017-01-14, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >
>> >> clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle.
>> >
>> > I am more than familiar with the plant. We usta call 'em "bull
>> > nettle". How I discovered 'em is a tad bit embarrassing, but I was
>> > jes a wee tyke of 8 yrs and the story IS pretty funny.
>> >
>> > I decided to relieve myself in the great outdoors. While peeing, I
>> > noticed this tall thin plant, so I playfully peed on it. My 'stream'
>> > was strong enough that it pushed the plant away from me. When my
>> > 'stream' ceased, the plant swung back. Guess where it swung back to!?
>> > Yes. The very tip of my winkie. Yee-Ow!!
>> >
>> > That was my introduction to stinging nettle. True story.
>> >
>> Next time try peeing on an electric fence.
>>
>> I grew up thinking that stinging nettles were a different type of plant
>> and always wondered what the fuss was about. Then one day I was weeding
>> my garden and grabbed hold of plant that didn't look dangerous. As soon
>> as I grabbed it I felt like I had stuck my hand into a hornet nest.
>
>Despite spraying and cultivating I still have some of those stinging nettles after 29 years on this farm of mine.
>They are tough, We used to call them "horse nettles" when we lived on my Dad's farm.
>I am selling my place for close to half a million dollars so won't have to deal with them anymore. The new people can deal with them.
>=====

Maybe they'll be hippies who make tea, soup, stirfries and cheese with
them. Unless your whole property's a chemical wasteland after all the
spraying, of course.

On 1/14/2017 2:47 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>>>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>>>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>>>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>>> =====
>>
>> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>> feed this troll.
>
> Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
> a fairly mild mannered one.
> =====
>

Yer both ****ing asshats!

On 1/14/2017 2:50 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>>>>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>>>>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>>>>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>>>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>>>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>>>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>>>> =====
>>>
>>> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>>> feed this troll.
>>
>> Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
>> a fairly mild mannered one.
>> =====
>
> That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.
>

Shaddup, WOG!

On 1/14/2017 3:14 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:50:51 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>>>>>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>>>>>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>>>>>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>>>>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>>>>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>>>>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>>>>> =====
>>>>
>>>> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>>>> feed this troll.
>>>
>>> Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
>>> a fairly mild mannered one.
>>> =====
>>
>> That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.
>
> Shaddup you ****ing asshole. You are ARE an example of a very STUPID dolt.
> I've known some smart intelligent Aussies but you don't measure up at all.
> =====
>

Go **** yer cows, roy boy!

On 1/14/2017 4:12 PM, Gary wrote:
> " wrote:
>>
>> And people seem to go ape shit over iceberg lettuce. Nothing but
>> water, pretty tasteless, and no vitamins. But people will pile
>> their plates high with the stuff and think they're eating something
>> scrumptious.
>
> For me, I prefer iceberg lettuce for the crunch factor only. I know
> it's not all that nutritious. It's good for texture though.
>

I grew up on iceberg lettuce. now we use about 25% in a salad for the
texture. Works well with most any other greens.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:36:04 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-14 7:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 8:25:00 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
>
>>> Well, little buddy, I don't have a regular NEWSREADER so I can't KILLFILE. I don't spend all my time on this crap like you do.
>>> Besides, I'd have to KILLFILE you and then I would miss out on your wonderful observations and helpful hints. Your favorite
>>> sheep is waiting...scoot.
>>
>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>
>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>
>I could muster pity if he showed an effort to improve. I have long said
>that anyone who is constantly nymshifting in order to get past filters
>is throwing in the towel and admitting that they are complete losers.
>They are here only to offend. They know that no one wants to read their
>psychotic rambling. Instead of smartening up and acting normal they
>delude themselves into thinking they can outsmart everyone else and
>sneak in under a new name.

The guy in question is such a loser that he does this in most
newsgroups that still have a reasonable amount of activity, not just
RFC. Imagine the time it takes to do that, what a great life it has.

On 1/14/2017 3:24 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:14:10 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:50:51 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-7, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>>>>>>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>>>>>>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>>>>>>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>>>>>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>>>>>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>>>>>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>>>>> feed this troll.
>>>>
>>>> Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
>>>> a fairly mild mannered one.
>>>> =====
>>>
>>> That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.
>>
>> Shaddup you ****ing asshole. You are ARE an example of a very STUPID dolt.
>> I've known some smart intelligent Aussies but you don't measure up at all.
>> =====
>
> Keep on digging that hole even deeper Roy
>
You both fit so nicely in it like shit in a latrine.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:06:27 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 14-Jan-2017, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:50:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 2017-01-14 10:55 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> Thanks! I have never eaten or cooked those greens
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What have I been missing? <g>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > IMO, you've missed eating soggy grass. OTOH, others love them. They
>> >> > are good for you too. If you like cooked spinach you will like the
>> >> > greens. I do like greens eaw in a salad though.
>> >>
>> >> I am not a fan of cooked leaves. Spinach is edible when cooked with
>> >> other things, but it is not good on its own. It is not too bed if just
>> >> barely cooked, but it develops a nasty taste when cooked too much. I
>> >> tried Swiss Chard once. That was enough for me. I have had kale cooked.
>> >> Not great. It is okay raw in salad or in soups. I know that some
>> >> people love greens, but I don't think I am likely too. It is not a
>> >> common dish around here so I am not likely to stumble upon it.
>> >
>> >"Greens" are slave food. All the things the plantation owners didn't
>> >want, the slaves turned scrap food into delicious recipes, just dealing
>> >with what they were given. hence...the "soul food". Most of that is
>> >super good!
>>
>> Kale was widely used by the early Egyptians. Greens have been eaten
>> for thousands of years.
>> http://cookingreens.com/history-of-dark-leafy/
>> I don't have time to research now, but I know I have seen info on the
>> kinds of things planted in colonial and plantation gardens and
>> 'greens' are there. I remember being surprised by the 'modern'
>> gardening methods used in those early times.
>> Not just slave food.
>> Janet US
>A lot of people have bought into the idea that the only poor people were
>slaves or African Americans. Someone really did a good job "marketing" soul
>food. Poor people have always eaten the stuff the well off didn't want.
>Subsistence farmers, black, white or any other color, have always eaten what
>they could find and what they couldn't sell to others. And, they learned
>how to take what they had and made it tasty as well as nutritious.

I guess the point that you and Dave are making is that only poor,
starving people and slaves ate greens because they had to?
That's classism. Greens were and are a food eaten all over the world,
for thousands of years, by all societies and all classes Just like
people eat eggs and some form of bread. Look it up.
Janet US

On 1/14/2017 3:36 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-14 7:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 8:25:00 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
>
>>> Well, little buddy, I don't have a regular NEWSREADER so I can't
>>> KILLFILE. I don't spend all my time on this crap like you do.
>>> Besides, I'd have to KILLFILE you and then I would miss out on your
>>> wonderful observations and helpful hints. Your favorite
>>> sheep is waiting...scoot.
>>
>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>
>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>
> I could muster pity if he showed an effort to improve. I have long said
> that anyone who is constantly nymshifting in order to get past filters
> is throwing in the towel and admitting that they are complete losers.
> They are here only to offend. They know that no one wants to read their
> psychotic rambling. Instead of smartening up and acting normal they
> delude themselves into thinking they can outsmart everyone else and
> sneak in under a new name.
>
>
Don't you have some truckers to harass?

On 1/14/2017 3:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:14:10 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:50:51 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>>>>>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>>>>>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>>>>>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>>>>> feed this troll.
>>>>
>>>> Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
>>>> a fairly mild mannered one.
>>>> =====
>>>
>>> That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.
>>
>> Shaddup you ****ing asshole.
>
> "Such vulgarity...really it is just plain stupid." (Roy)
>

Shadup, you mincing little pansy.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:20:41 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:08:25 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:03:43 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:31:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am not a fan of cooked leaves. Spinach is edible when cooked with
>>>>other things, but it is not good on its own. It is not too bed if just
>>>>barely cooked, but it develops a nasty taste when cooked too much. I
>>>>tried Swiss Chard once. That was enough for me. I have had kale cooked.
>>>>Not great. It is okay raw in salad or in soups. I know that some
>>>>people love greens, but I don't think I am likely too. It is not a
>>>>common dish around here so I am not likely to stumble upon it.
>>>
>>>You'd be horrified what I eat here then
>>>
>>> I just *love* leafy greens, I regularly make an omelet that barely
>>>holds together because it's so full of parsley, chard, spinach and
>>>kale... sometimes nettles too. I'll cook it just long enough for the
>>>egg to solidify and then I eat it. In fact that was breakfast
>>>yesterday morning.
>>
>>Nettles. I've heard that the new tender growth is what you want.
>
>Yes, the new growth is best. Quite delicate and doesn't need much
>cooking at all.
>
>>Do you find and pick your own or are you able to purchase?
>
>I have plenty growing on my property Janet, I weed it out just enough
>to keep it under control but would never wish to eliminate it. To be
>clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle. I understand the term
>'nettle' is used for many different plants.

I knew what you talking about, I just wondered if you picked or
bought.
Janet US

On 2017-01-14 5:43 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> For me, I prefer iceberg lettuce for the crunch factor only. I know
>> it's not all that nutritious. It's good for texture though.
>>
>
> I grew up on iceberg lettuce. now we use about 25% in a salad for the
> texture. Works well with most any other greens.

I think iceberg lettuce is the root cause of my disinterest in salad.
Salad is something that my wife usually makes for me but which I rarely
bother to make for myself or to include in meal plan. I like Bibb
lettuce and leaf lettuce, but we usually get mixed greens. They are
much better than lettuce, but it is still my wife's efforts that get
salads on the table.

On 1/14/2017 3:39 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:37:59 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:14:10 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:50:51 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:47:57 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:00:10 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:34:33 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the future WE might have to vote for a moderated forum just to shake
>>>>>>> those trolls. Not the best solution but they are getting to be a real
>>>>>>> nuisance. Many of them suffer from psychosomatic afflictions and will
>>>>>>> never be a part of NORMAL society.
>>>>>>> =====
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strange that you say that, because you're one of the few people who
>>>>>> feed this troll.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, people feed you every freakin' day and YOU are definitely a troll albeit
>>>>> a fairly mild mannered one.
>>>>> =====
>>>>
>>>> That's your argument and defence of your stupidity, is it? LOL.
>>>
>>> Shaddup you ****ing asshole.
>>
>> "Such vulgarity...really it is just plain stupid." (Roy)
>
> Yep. Stupid is as stupid does
>
Yeah you are!

On 2017-01-14 5:43 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:36:04 -0500, Dave Smith

>> I could muster pity if he showed an effort to improve. I have long said
>> that anyone who is constantly nymshifting in order to get past filters
>> is throwing in the towel and admitting that they are complete losers.
>> They are here only to offend. They know that no one wants to read their
>> psychotic rambling. Instead of smartening up and acting normal they
>> delude themselves into thinking they can outsmart everyone else and
>> sneak in under a new name.
>
> The guy in question is such a loser that he does this in most
> newsgroups that still have a reasonable amount of activity, not just
> RFC. Imagine the time it takes to do that, what a great life it has.
>


It's cheaper than therapy and effective medication.
The really sad part if that people like this delude themselves into
thinking they are some sort of genius.

On 1/14/2017 3:43 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:36:04 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-01-14 7:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 8:25:00 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
>>
>>>> Well, little buddy, I don't have a regular NEWSREADER so I can't KILLFILE. I don't spend all my time on this crap like you do.
>>>> Besides, I'd have to KILLFILE you and then I would miss out on your wonderful observations and helpful hints. Your favorite
>>>> sheep is waiting...scoot.
>>>
>>> I don't use a real newsreader, either. I observe that Casa Boner is
>>> off his meds, or they released him again and he regained his internet
>>> access. I try not to engage with him, since he's so easy to identify.
>>>
>>> Of course, this post will inspire him to release a spate of abuse
>>> in my direction. He's pitiable.
>>
>> I could muster pity if he showed an effort to improve. I have long said
>> that anyone who is constantly nymshifting in order to get past filters
>> is throwing in the towel and admitting that they are complete losers.
>> They are here only to offend. They know that no one wants to read their
>> psychotic rambling. Instead of smartening up and acting normal they
>> delude themselves into thinking they can outsmart everyone else and
>> sneak in under a new name.
>
> The guy in question is such a loser that he does this in most
> newsgroups that still have a reasonable amount of activity, not just
> RFC. Imagine the time it takes to do that, what a great life it has.
>

Almost as great as your Wog buddy Dechucka?

On 1/14/2017 3:55 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-14 5:43 PM, Je�us wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:36:04 -0500, Dave Smith
>
>>> I could muster pity if he showed an effort to improve. I have long said
>>> that anyone who is constantly nymshifting in order to get past filters
>>> is throwing in the towel and admitting that they are complete losers.
>>> They are here only to offend. They know that no one wants to read their
>>> psychotic rambling. Instead of smartening up and acting normal they
>>> delude themselves into thinking they can outsmart everyone else and
>>> sneak in under a new name.
>>
>> The guy in question is such a loser that he does this in most
>> newsgroups that still have a reasonable amount of activity, not just
>> RFC. Imagine the time it takes to do that, what a great life it has.
>>
>
>
> It's cheaper than therapy and effective medication.

Thanks for sharing your motivations here..

> The really sad part if that people like this delude themselves into
> thinking they are some sort of genius.

LOLOLOL!

Go hassle some truckers, ****lip.

On 2017-01-14 5:44 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:06:27 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
>>
>> On 14-Jan-2017, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:50:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-01-14 10:55 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks! I have never eaten or cooked those greens
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What have I been missing? <g>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMO, you've missed eating soggy grass. OTOH, others love them. They
>>>>>> are good for you too. If you like cooked spinach you will like the
>>>>>> greens. I do like greens eaw in a salad though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a fan of cooked leaves. Spinach is edible when cooked with
>>>>> other things, but it is not good on its own. It is not too bed if just
>>>>> barely cooked, but it develops a nasty taste when cooked too much. I
>>>>> tried Swiss Chard once. That was enough for me. I have had kale cooked.
>>>>> Not great. It is okay raw in salad or in soups. I know that some
>>>>> people love greens, but I don't think I am likely too. It is not a
>>>>> common dish around here so I am not likely to stumble upon it.
>>>>
>>>> "Greens" are slave food. All the things the plantation owners didn't
>>>> want, the slaves turned scrap food into delicious recipes, just dealing
>>>> with what they were given. hence...the "soul food". Most of that is
>>>> super good!
>>>
>>> Kale was widely used by the early Egyptians. Greens have been eaten
>>> for thousands of years.
>>> http://cookingreens.com/history-of-dark-leafy/
>>> I don't have time to research now, but I know I have seen info on the
>>> kinds of things planted in colonial and plantation gardens and
>>> 'greens' are there. I remember being surprised by the 'modern'
>>> gardening methods used in those early times.
>>> Not just slave food.
>>> Janet US
>> A lot of people have bought into the idea that the only poor people were
>> slaves or African Americans. Someone really did a good job "marketing" soul
>> food. Poor people have always eaten the stuff the well off didn't want.
>> Subsistence farmers, black, white or any other color, have always eaten what
>> they could find and what they couldn't sell to others. And, they learned
>> how to take what they had and made it tasty as well as nutritious.
>
> I guess the point that you and Dave are making is that only poor,
> starving people and slaves ate greens because they had to?

I don't know what gave you the impression that I was making that point.
The point I made was that I don't much care for them. I can eat beet
tops and spinach raw in salads, spinach cooked with eggs or with cheese.
I don't like greens like that boiled.

> That's classism. Greens were and are a food eaten all over the world,
> for thousands of years, by all societies and all classes Just like
> people eat eggs and some form of bread. Look it up.

It's not classism to acknowledge that they may be popular with people
who are descended from slaves. It would be a matter of classism if they
refused to eat them simply because they have that association. I
associate boiled spinach and Swiss chard with the yech factor in the
nasty flavour.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:53:29 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-14 5:43 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>> For me, I prefer iceberg lettuce for the crunch factor only. I know
>>> it's not all that nutritious. It's good for texture though.
>>>
>>
>> I grew up on iceberg lettuce. now we use about 25% in a salad for the
>> texture. Works well with most any other greens.
>
>I think iceberg lettuce is the root cause of my disinterest in salad.
>Salad is something that my wife usually makes for me but which I rarely
>bother to make for myself or to include in meal plan. I like Bibb
>lettuce and leaf lettuce, but we usually get mixed greens. They are
>much better than lettuce, but it is still my wife's efforts that get
>salads on the table.

I'm like you and never liked iceberg lettuce, especially in a salad. I
use baby salad leaves instead (is that what you call mixed greens?).

Carrot doesn't belong in a salad or a sandwich either, IMO.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:05:44 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" wrote in message news >
>On 1/13/2017 10:52 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 7:18:36 AM UTC-8, notbob wrote:
>>>
>>> It sez: Owen's Original Salt Pork. "Boldly Seasoned".
>>>
>>> It's about the size of pkg o' Oscar Mayer lunch meat. Looks like
>>> mostly fat with 1/4 of it having some lean meat.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> Then it is a "seasoning" meat for recipes like beans, greens, etc. I
>> cannot cook a mess o greens without salt pork, just wouldn't taste right.
>>
>Ah yes! I generally use salt pork when making bean soup but it's also
>excellent in a mess o' greens.

>
>Jill
>
>==============
>
>Ok Someone define a mess o' greens please?

Here's how I've been making them for years.

http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...-o-greens.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/p7folve

koko

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On 2017-01-14 6:06 PM, Je�us wrote:

> I'm like you and never liked iceberg lettuce, especially in a salad. I
> use baby salad leaves instead (is that what you call mixed greens?).

Mixed greens are an assortment of packaged greens. They can include
things like spinach, arugula, endive, lettuce, beet tops etc.
>
> Carrot doesn't belong in a salad or a sandwich either, IMO.

I don't mind a bit of finely shredded carrot with a salad. I once had a
carrot salad with a lunch in France. It was just finely grated salad,
garlic, oil and vinegar and lots of ground pepper. It was quite tasty.

On 2017-01-14, koko > wrote:

> Here's how I've been making them for years.
>
> http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...-o-greens.html
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/p7folve

I see a lotta spices.

I learned 'mess o' greens' from Leontyne Price, the great opera
singer. She did a stint on NPR(?) where she talked about cooking up a
"mess o' greens", jes to keep herself grounded and in mind of her
home, background, legacy, yada. This cuz she was living the life of a
European opera star. In Europe. In hotel rooms. I'm sure you get
the picture.

She described tearing --by hand-- the leaves from the thick stems.
She'd cook 'em fer 2-3 hrs with zero spices (maybe salt ...I forget)
and jes enough water to cleanse the leaves (water on the leaves). She
extolled the virtues of un-adulterated pot liquor (likker?).

It's how I like my "greens". Well ....gotta have some kinda hot
sauce, of course!

nb

In article >, says...
>
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:08:25 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:03:43 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:31:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>I am not a fan of cooked leaves. Spinach is edible when cooked with
> >>>other things, but it is not good on its own. It is not too bed if just
> >>>barely cooked, but it develops a nasty taste when cooked too much. I
> >>>tried Swiss Chard once. That was enough for me. I have had kale cooked.
> >>>Not great. It is okay raw in salad or in soups. I know that some
> >>>people love greens, but I don't think I am likely too. It is not a
> >>>common dish around here so I am not likely to stumble upon it.
> >>
> >>You'd be horrified what I eat here then
> >>
> >> I just *love* leafy greens, I regularly make an omelet that barely
> >>holds together because it's so full of parsley, chard, spinach and
> >>kale... sometimes nettles too. I'll cook it just long enough for the
> >>egg to solidify and then I eat it. In fact that was breakfast
> >>yesterday morning.
> >
> >Nettles. I've heard that the new tender growth is what you want.
>
> Yes, the new growth is best. Quite delicate and doesn't need much
> cooking at all.
>
> >Do you find and pick your own or are you able to purchase?
>
> I have plenty growing on my property Janet, I weed it out just enough
> to keep it under control but would never wish to eliminate it. To be
> clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle. I understand the term
> 'nettle' is used for many different plants.

My granny used to feed her children and grandchildren nettles as a
"greens" every spring, for a tonic; they are high in iron. She picked
just the top new leaves, with bare hands. If you pick new leaves firmly
they don't sting. According to her.

I harvest older nettles, a great activator for compost heaps/

Janet UK

Janet UK

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 6:16:26 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>
> I learned 'mess o' greens' from Leontyne Price, the great opera
> singer.
>
> She described tearing --by hand-- the leaves from the thick stems.
> She'd cook 'em fer 2-3 hrs with zero spices (maybe salt ...I forget)
> and jes enough water to cleanse the leaves (water on the leaves). She
> extolled the virtues of un-adulterated pot liquor (likker?).
>
> nb
>
>
When I was 10 I had my appendix removed and I had a stomach pump
while there for 3 weeks that I was there for 4 weeks. After the
stomach pump tube was removed I got a cup of pot liquor off of
turnip greens for my lunch one day. Granted, turnip greens have
over 500% of our daily allowance of vitamin K but that stuff was
awful! Keep in mind it was hospital food and NO seasoning at
all on those turnip greens or in the cooking liquid. Home
cooked turnip greens and resultant liquid is lip smacking
good.

On 2017-01-14 7:16 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-01-14, koko > wrote:
>
>> Here's how I've been making them for years.
>>
>> http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...-o-greens.html
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/p7folve
>
> I see a lotta spices.
>
> I learned 'mess o' greens' from Leontyne Price, the great opera
> singer. She did a stint on NPR(?) where she talked about cooking up a
> "mess o' greens", jes to keep herself grounded and in mind of her
> home, background, legacy, yada. This cuz she was living the life of a
> European opera star. In Europe. In hotel rooms. I'm sure you get
> the picture.

I get the picture. I met her in a hotel room..... in Lewiston NY after
she had performed in Carmen at Art Park. We were taken there by friends
of my wife. The husband was an opera singer and knew her and was also a
good friend of another cast member and we were all invited back to his
room for a party and she was there.

>
> She described tearing --by hand-- the leaves from the thick stems.
> She'd cook 'em fer 2-3 hrs with zero spices (maybe salt ...I forget)
> and jes enough water to cleanse the leaves (water on the leaves). She
> extolled the virtues of un-adulterated pot liquor (likker?).
>
> It's how I like my "greens". Well ....gotta have some kinda hot
> sauce, of course!
>
Good. you can have mine ;-)



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notbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-01-13, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > fataback or salt pork is a cured product, like a type of bacon.
> > Slice it up like bacon and fry it or cube it up and fry it
> > .....gently.....till it has gotten some crispy on it. Use it to
> > season a mess o greens, grease and all.
> >
> > pork belly is an uncured cut that the others here are talking about
> >
> > so which do you have....salt pork/fatback, or pork belly?
>
> It sez: Owen's Original Salt Pork. "Boldly Seasoned".
>
> It's about the size of pkg o' Oscar Mayer lunch meat. Looks like
> mostly fat with 1/4 of it having some lean meat.
>
> nb

Ok, I know that one. If it has black flecks all around the rind
outside, its even better.

This is not cooked in a pan on it's own. It's used as an additive.
The classic simple version is to cut it to small pieces and add to dry
beans as they cook (crockpot or stove). If you've have canned beans
with pork (Campbells Pork-n-beans used to be good before they started
adding tons of sugar filler), the little pork bits were these.

I am guessing here that you are looking at 8oz of it? Cube 1/2 that and
add to 8oz (dry) Navy beans or black eyes (can use others but those are
common) then add water and cook. Crockpot - 5 times the water to
volume of beans. Stove top, same at start but add water as needed.
Spices are nomally just more S&P to taste.

It's not used as much with 'greens' (green veggies) because those are
normally boiled in water then the water tossed. The fresh pork belly
is more common there.

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Roy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-7, Sqwerts wrote:
> > On 1/13/2017 8:37 AM, wrote:
> > > never done it with Salt Pork.
> >
> > Cram it up yer rancid snatch and look for dogs.
>
> This "Sqwerts" guy/gal is going to get his/her face smashed one of
> these days. Such vulgarity...really it is just plain stupid. ====

It's not squertz. Look at the headers.

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Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> notbob wrote:
> >
> > On 2017-01-13, ImStillMags > wrote:
> >
> > > Then it is a "seasoning" meat for recipes like beans, greens, etc.
> >
> > I'm gonna make a mess o' red beans (sans rice), today. Got
> > Andouille ssg, ham steak (they were outta shanks), the usual holy
> > trinity, and some Creole seaoning (Old Bay). How would the 'salt
> > pork' fit into this recipe?
> >
> > nb
>
> Just toss in a little thin slice of it for seasoning.
>
> Question: You consider OLD BAY to be creole seasoning? I don't.

Some do but it's not really what they use in the old tradition. Close
though for some things like cajon crawfish boil.
Carol


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On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:41:46 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:08:25 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Do you find and pick your own or are you able to purchase?
>>
>> I have plenty growing on my property Janet, I weed it out just enough
>> to keep it under control but would never wish to eliminate it. To be
>> clear, I'm referring to stinging nettle. I understand the term
>> 'nettle' is used for many different plants.
>
> My granny used to feed her children and grandchildren nettles as a
>"greens" every spring, for a tonic; they are high in iron. She picked
>just the top new leaves, with bare hands. If you pick new leaves firmly
>they don't sting. According to her.

That's kinda-sorta-mostly true about picking them firmly
The more you muck about trying to avoid getting stung... the more you
get stung.

> I harvest older nettles, a great activator for compost heaps/

It is indeed.

Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 1/13/2017 10:52 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 7:18:36 AM UTC-8, notbob wrote:
> > >
> > > It sez: Owen's Original Salt Pork. "Boldly Seasoned".
> > >
> > > It's about the size of pkg o' Oscar Mayer lunch meat. Looks like
> > > mostly fat with 1/4 of it having some lean meat.
> > >
> > > nb
> >
> > Then it is a "seasoning" meat for recipes like beans, greens, etc.
> > I cannot cook a mess o greens without salt pork, just wouldn't
> > taste right.
> >
> Ah yes! I generally use salt pork when making bean soup but it's also
> excellent in a mess o' greens.
>
> Jill
>
> ==============
>
> Ok Someone define a mess o' greens please?

LOL! Variations will erupt. Some will insist they be: Mustard, or
Collard, or Beet. In reality, any mix of the above qualifies.

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On 1/14/2017 6:56 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Roy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-7, Sqwerts wrote:
>>> On 1/13/2017 8:37 AM, wrote:
>>>> never done it with Salt Pork.
>>>
>>> Cram it up yer rancid snatch and look for dogs.
>>
>> This "Sqwerts" guy/gal is going to get his/her face smashed one of
>> these days. Such vulgarity...really it is just plain stupid. ====
>
> It's not squertz. Look at the headers.
>

BOOOOO!!!!

"koko" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:05:44 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" wrote in message news >
>On 1/13/2017 10:52 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 7:18:36 AM UTC-8, notbob wrote:
>>>
>>> It sez: Owen's Original Salt Pork. "Boldly Seasoned".
>>>
>>> It's about the size of pkg o' Oscar Mayer lunch meat. Looks like
>>> mostly fat with 1/4 of it having some lean meat.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> Then it is a "seasoning" meat for recipes like beans, greens, etc. I
>> cannot cook a mess o greens without salt pork, just wouldn't taste right.
>>
>Ah yes! I generally use salt pork when making bean soup but it's also
>excellent in a mess o' greens.

>
>Jill
>
>==============
>
>Ok Someone define a mess o' greens please?

Here's how I've been making them for years.

http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...-o-greens.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/p7folve

koko

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Thank you! Given he won't eat the following:

1/4 teaspoon ground turmeric; optional
1/8 teaspoon celery seed
1/8 teaspoon dried thyme leaves
1 tablespoon hot pepper vinegar

Is there any point in making it>

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Ophelia wrote:
>
> Ok Someone define a mess o' greens please?

My wallet. <g>