On 2017-01-22 11:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>> Many alcoholics drink at work. Small bottles can be hidden in a
>> handbag or trouser pocket
>
> More likely, they'll be filled at home from a big bottle. You
> underestimate a dedicated alcoholic.

Those bottles only hold about an ounce and a half. A real alcoholic
would use a flask.

On 2017-01-23 5:52 AM, Janet wrote:
> excuse for why it's in the desk/briefcase etc.
>
> Whereas carrying a hip flask in the office is an open admission of
> being a habitual boozer.
>

They can be crafty. We had a friend who turned out to be alcoholic. He
was working at my wife's school for a while and had had a bit of a
crisis due to his drinking and was supposed to have stopped. I joined
some of them for lunch one day and was not thrilled that Fred was coming
with us to a popular bar. I figured that the temptation was too much for
him. Everyone seemed pleased with his temperance when we ordered drinks
and he ordered tomato juice. Then he excused himself, slipped out of
the room long enough to chase down the waitress and have her ass a shot
of vodka. Everyone thought he was drinking tomato juice but it was
Bloody Mary.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Alcoholics are bulk users. Smokers also don't buy a cigarette at a
> time.

Good point there. I've known a few hard core ones. An airline bottle
or even a flask would be a joke to them. A small drink only gets
them started and won't last long at all.

I work with a "binge drinker" now. For him, it's all or nothing.
He will go days or even weeks with nothing and everything is fine.
Give him just one beer though and he goes nuts. The one will turn
into at least a case of beer and an all-nighter. Next day, you
never see him as he stays home sick as crap all day.

This happens every single time. Just one beer sets it off.

On 2017-01-23 9:42 AM, Gary wrote:

> Good point there. I've known a few hard core ones. An airline bottle
> or even a flask would be a joke to them. A small drink only gets
> them started and won't last long at all.
>
> I work with a "binge drinker" now. For him, it's all or nothing.
> He will go days or even weeks with nothing and everything is fine.
> Give him just one beer though and he goes nuts. The one will turn
> into at least a case of beer and an all-nighter. Next day, you
> never see him as he stays home sick as crap all day.
>
> This happens every single time. Just one beer sets it off.
>

The guy two doors down from me is a big time drunk. It is hard to tell
when he is drunk because he drinks all the time. He starts early in the
day. One morning I was coming back from my morning ride about 9-9:30 and
he called me over and offered me a beer. I said thanks but it is too
early for me. His reply was "You can't drink all day if you don't start
early". One day he asked me to come over and run his mini backhoe for
him. He has this very expensive toy that he cannot operate himself. When
I went back to the job site in his back 40 he had a cooler full of beer
and there were 8 empties. Last summer he was here for my wife's
birthday party and brought his own beer, thank goodness. He left 18
empties sitting beside his chair.... and the party only went on for
about three hours.


He had a good job in the aircraft business but was "laid off" last
summer. That left me wondering if there was a staff reduction or if
there had been a problem with his drinking. I had long been concerned
that he might get picked up for DUI on his way to work in the morning
because you simply cannot metabolize that much alcohol overnight.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:52:50 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 00:06:21 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> says...
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 08:32:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't know about where you buy alcohol,
>> >> >
>> >> >Here in Virginia, beer and wine is sold in grocery stores
>> >> >and any smaller convenience store.
>> >> >Stronger stuff is sold in state-run ABC stores.
>> >> >
>> >> >> but here in our liquor
>> >> >> commissions there is all sorts of booze available in airline bottles,
>> >> >> they are there for desperate alcoholics who can't afford a bottle, so
>> >> >> I doubt you'll find there are no more!
>> >> >
>> >> >Interesting theory of why they sell those small bottles. Bums buying
>> >> >them because that's all they can afford. Probably true.
>> >> >I never even thought of that. I assumed they were samples to try
>> >> >before buying a larger bottle.
>> >>
>> >> An alcoholic needs a lot more than one of those little bottles. Being
>> >> bulk users, they'd have to be really stupid or really rich to buy
>> >> small bottles. Big ones are much more economic.
>> >
>> > Many alcoholics drink at work. Small bottles can be hidden in a
>> >handbag or trouser pocket
>>
>> More likely, they'll be filled at home from a big bottle. You
>> underestimate a dedicated alcoholic.
>
> You're assuming that all alcoholics are impoverished losers worried
>about the expense. Plenty of alcoholics are rich enough to have no
>concern about cost. The miniature is not just easy to hide; even if one
>is noticed, being a frequent air traveller/hotel user makes a credible
>excuse for why it's in the desk/briefcase etc.

Just because someone can afford something doesn't mean they are
wasteful... besides someone who drinks doesn't need having to
hide/dispose of all those bottles... a boozer can easily go through a
dozen a day. Boozers have no use for those mini bottles, they
wouldn't consider those sampler bottles.

> Whereas carrying a hip flask in the office is an open admission of
>being a habitual boozer.
>
> Janet UK

You prove over and over that you have the imagination quotient of a
mollusk:
https://www.amazon.com/Bra-Flask/s?i...%3ABra%20Flask
The most common container for booze at the office is a water
bottle/thermos in a brief case.

On 1/19/2017 2:02 PM, koko wrote:

> Here's Nancy's recipe. This is my go to recipe for short ribs. It's so
> good I rarely make them any other way.

Ditto! I saw some nice short ribs in the store last week, it wasn't
a good time but I did get a hankering for ht "Hungarian" short ribs.

Really glad you like them, not that I invented the recipe.

nancy

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Alcoholics are bulk users. Smokers also don't buy a cigarette at a
>> time.
>
> Good point there. I've known a few hard core ones. An airline bottle
> or even a flask would be a joke to them. A small drink only gets
> them started and won't last long at all.
>
> I work with a "binge drinker" now. For him, it's all or nothing.
> He will go days or even weeks with nothing and everything is fine.
> Give him just one beer though and he goes nuts. The one will turn
> into at least a case of beer and an all-nighter. Next day, you
> never see him as he stays home sick as crap all day.
>
> This happens every single time. Just one beer sets it off.



Where I am, and I'm pretty sure in just about every other city, they do sell
cigarettes (illegally) one at a time or 3 for a dollar. My BIL is an
occasional smoker and buys them that way.

Cheri

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:30:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-22 11:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> Many alcoholics drink at work. Small bottles can be hidden in a
>>> handbag or trouser pocket
>>
>> More likely, they'll be filled at home from a big bottle. You
>> underestimate a dedicated alcoholic.
>
>Those bottles only hold about an ounce and a half. A real alcoholic
>would use a flask.

Yes, a mini bottle doesn't even show up on their radar.

On 1/22/2017 11:32 PM, Bruce wrote:

>>
>> Many alcoholics drink at work. Small bottles can be hidden in a
>> handbag or trouser pocket
>
> More likely, they'll be filled at home from a big bottle. You
> underestimate a dedicated alcoholic.
>

I was introduced to gin & tonic at lunch one day. The guy rank that
because it had no odor like other booze. We had a customer that had a
different vendor take him to lunch a few times a week. His beverage was
vodka and tonic. Three of them at minimum. He'd walk through the door
at his favorite restaurant and they met him at the table with the first
drink.

On 2017-01-23 4:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/22/2017 11:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Many alcoholics drink at work. Small bottles can be hidden in a
>>> handbag or trouser pocket
>>
>> More likely, they'll be filled at home from a big bottle. You
>> underestimate a dedicated alcoholic.
>>
>
> I was introduced to gin & tonic at lunch one day. The guy rank that
> because it had no odor like other booze. We had a customer that had a
> different vendor take him to lunch a few times a week. His beverage was
> vodka and tonic. Three of them at minimum. He'd walk through the door
> at his favorite restaurant and they met him at the table with the first
> drink.

I once had a client and we would *never* call him after lunch. He'd
drink heavily then and be in that angry phase of getting drunk.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 19:04:42 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-01-23 4:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 1/22/2017 11:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Many alcoholics drink at work. Small bottles can be hidden in a
>>>> handbag or trouser pocket
>>>
>>> More likely, they'll be filled at home from a big bottle. You
>>> underestimate a dedicated alcoholic.
>>>
>>
>> I was introduced to gin & tonic at lunch one day. The guy rank that
>> because it had no odor like other booze. We had a customer that had a
>> different vendor take him to lunch a few times a week. His beverage was
>> vodka and tonic. Three of them at minimum. He'd walk through the door
>> at his favorite restaurant and they met him at the table with the first
>> drink.
>
>I once had a client and we would *never* call him after lunch. He'd
>drink heavily then and be in that angry phase of getting drunk.

He must have had quite a collection of mini bottles.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/22/2017 11:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Many alcoholics drink at work. Small bottles can be hidden in a
>>> handbag or trouser pocket
>>
>> More likely, they'll be filled at home from a big bottle. You
>> underestimate a dedicated alcoholic.
>>
>
> I was introduced to gin & tonic at lunch one day. The guy rank that
> because it had no odor like other booze. We had a customer that had a
> different vendor take him to lunch a few times a week. His beverage was
> vodka and tonic. Three of them at minimum. He'd walk through the door at
> his favorite restaurant and they met him at the table with the first
> drink.


I can smell gin from a long way off, same with people who say that vodka has
no smell.

Cheri

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 23:14:40 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>> On 1/22/2017 11:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Many alcoholics drink at work. Small bottles can be hidden in a
>>>> handbag or trouser pocket
>>>
>>> More likely, they'll be filled at home from a big bottle. You
>>> underestimate a dedicated alcoholic.
>>>
>>
>> I was introduced to gin & tonic at lunch one day. The guy rank that
>> because it had no odor like other booze. We had a customer that had a
>> different vendor take him to lunch a few times a week. His beverage was
>> vodka and tonic. Three of them at minimum. He'd walk through the door at
>> his favorite restaurant and they met him at the table with the first
>> drink.
>
>
>I can smell gin from a long way off, same with people who say that vodka has
>no smell.

You'd think that alcohol has a smell, regardless of what else is in
there.