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![]() Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of your recipes. Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. This is just one example of soooo many I could share. Do you do this too? koko -- Food is our common ground, a universal experience James Beard |
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On 2017-01-16 8:23 PM, koko wrote:
> > Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > your recipes. > Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > Do you do this too? > > koko > My friend is fat-phobic and when raving about the roast potatoes I'd served up, assumed that I had used vegetable oil. His wife smiled, knowing that I'd used duck fat. |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:23:11 -0800, koko > wrote:
>Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >your recipes. >Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >Do you do this too? I have done this with a couple of people over the years. Both cases involving kangaroo/wallaby disguised as 'beef stew' or as 'beef patties'. They never knew until I told them later ![]() |
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On 2017-01-16 10:23 PM, koko wrote:
> > Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > your recipes. > Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > Do you do this too? > When my son was young we could get him to eat just about anything by telling him it was fish. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:46:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2017-01-16 10:23 PM, koko wrote: >> >> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >> your recipes. >> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >> Do you do this too? >> >When my son was young we could get him to eat just about anything by >telling him it was fish. LOL. That reminds me of when I was very young. Apparently I didn't like scrambled eggs except when Mum told me it was fish. THEN I'd eat it ![]() |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:23:11 -0800, koko > wrote:
> >Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >your recipes. >Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >Do you do this too? > >koko With a husband??? You betcha! Janet US |
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"koko" > wrote in message
news ![]() > > Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > your recipes. > Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > Do you do this too? > > koko In my case with dh, it's anything with Parmesan or cottage cheese. If he doesn't know it, he chows right through it, but if he knows it, he complains about the taste of it. Who knows why. ![]() Cheri |
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On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 5:23:14 PM UTC-10, koko wrote:
> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > your recipes. > Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > Do you do this too? > > koko > > -- > > Food is our common ground, a universal experience > James Beard My policy is to never spill the beans on what's in the dish. Once spilled, preconceived notions take over. I'm not only a good cook, I'm also a smart one. Tonight we have shredded pork cooked in a sweet tangerine syrup with garlic and ginger. I wanted to get away from my standard Asian flavor profile. Mission accomplished. |
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On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:23:14 PM UTC-5, koko wrote:
> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > your recipes. > Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > Do you do this too? No. My husband will eat just about anything, and I simply don't cook with things I know he doesn't like: e.g., mushrooms, peas. He eats around cooked carrots. We've got a friend who doesn't like anything that lives in water, or anything interesting, really. We always serve prime rib or pizza or something when he's coming over. I was a fussy eater when I was a kid. One night they made me eat peas and I puked them right back up on the table. I'm not about to serve people stuff I know they don't like and lie to them about it. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:31:09 -0700, graham > wrote:
>On 2017-01-16 8:23 PM, koko wrote: >> >> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >> your recipes. >> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >> Do you do this too? >> >> koko >> >My friend is fat-phobic and when raving about the roast potatoes I'd >served up, assumed that I had used vegetable oil. >His wife smiled, knowing that I'd used duck fat. Been there, done that and often wondered - do they know really but choose to eat something so delicious they can't resist ![]() |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:33:47 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:23:11 -0800, koko > wrote: > > >>Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >>allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >>your recipes. >>Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >>eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >>This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >>Do you do this too? > >I have done this with a couple of people over the years. Both cases >involving kangaroo/wallaby disguised as 'beef stew' or as 'beef >patties'. They never knew until I told them later ![]() That reminds me of my son, he hated liver, the rest of us loved it so for years only 'beef slices' were served to him ![]() |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:14:00 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:46:30 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>On 2017-01-16 10:23 PM, koko wrote: >>> >>> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >>> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >>> your recipes. >>> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >>> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >>> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >>> Do you do this too? >>> >>When my son was young we could get him to eat just about anything by >>telling him it was fish. > >LOL. That reminds me of when I was very young. Apparently I didn't >like scrambled eggs except when Mum told me it was fish. THEN I'd eat >it ![]() It must be a little boy thing ~ |
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On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:23:14 PM UTC-5, koko wrote:
> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > your recipes. > Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > Do you do this too? > > koko > > -- > When my daughter was little and had a fever I told her she should drink lots of fluids. She shouted and screamed that she didn't want fluids. "OK" I said "have water instead". It worked like a charm. http://www.richardfisher.com |
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koko > wrote: > Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > your recipes. > Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > Do you do this too? > > koko > > -- > > Food is our common ground, a universal experience > James Beard I try to stick to "thou shalt not bear false witness." Which is not to be confused with being overly forthcoming. But if someone wants to know the recipe, what they choose to eat or not eat is their problem, not mine. (allergies excepted of course, lots of that in my family) |
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On 2017-01-17 2:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > My policy is to never spill the beans on what's in the dish. Once > spilled, preconceived notions take over. I'm not only a good cook, > I'm also a smart one. We once had a party where the canapes included smoked eel. I had set out a platter of smoked salmon and cream cheese on dark rye, and next to that was the same bread but with egg salad and smoked eel. I didn't want to tell people it was eel because I figured most would cringe at the thought of eating eel. I let them try it first and when people told me how good it was I told them what it was. |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:52:58 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote: >"koko" > wrote in message >news ![]() >> >> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >> your recipes. >> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >> Do you do this too? >> >> koko > > >In my case with dh, it's anything with Parmesan or cottage cheese. If he >doesn't know it, he chows right through it, but if he knows it, he complains >about the taste of it. Who knows why. ![]() > >Cheri If he likes the sight of, the smell of, and the taste of something he doesn't need to know that it has ???? in it. ![]() Janet US |
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On 2017-01-16 8:23 PM, koko wrote:
> > Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > your recipes. > Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > Do you do this too? > Another story: A former Moslem colleague loved Chinese food conveniently ignorant of the fact that they used pork fat in the woks. At his farewell lunch, arranged by a Chinese colleague, he scoffed down pork dishes thinking they were beef. |
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On 1/17/2017 12:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> Tonight we have shredded pork cooked in a sweet tangerine syrup with garlic and ginger. I wanted to get away from my standard > Asian flavor profile. Mission accomplished. Wow, that sounds REAL good. I'll point my scooter your way. |
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On 2017-01-17 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:23:14 PM UTC-5, koko wrote: >> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >> your recipes. >> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >> Do you do this too? > > No. My husband will eat just about anything, and I simply don't > cook with things I know he doesn't like: e.g., mushrooms, peas. > He eats around cooked carrots. I often chuckle thinking back to a father and son who I worked with many years ago. The father was a finicky eater and had a number of things he especially hated, like asparagus and mushrooms. One evening they showed up for the night shift and old Mort was in a foul mood. He wouldn't say what was bugging him and he got upset when his son explained what had happened. His wife had made Beef Stroganoff for supper. It was only when he went back for his fourth helping that he learned there were mushrooms in it. He was furious that his wife had served him mushrooms that she knows he hates.... four servings worth. > > I was a fussy eater when I was a kid. One night they made me eat > peas and I puked them right back up on the table. I'm not about > to serve people stuff I know they don't like and lie to them > about it. > My brother still whines about the time he could not go out on Halloween because he would not eat his peas. I had little sympathy because I don't know what there is to dislike about peas. They are a very mild tasting vegetable. |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:39:29 -0700, graham > wrote:
>On 2017-01-16 8:23 PM, koko wrote: >> >> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >> your recipes. >> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >> Do you do this too? >> >Another story: >A former Moslem colleague loved Chinese food conveniently ignorant of >the fact that they used pork fat in the woks. At his farewell lunch, >arranged by a Chinese colleague, he scoffed down pork dishes thinking >they were beef. I don't know but maybe they have 'special dispensation' ? I remember RC friends years ago who loved to be served meat on Fridays because they could eat it under special dispensation not to be rude when a nonRC offered you food, or somesuch. |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:42:51 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2017-01-17 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:23:14 PM UTC-5, koko wrote: >>> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >>> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >>> your recipes. >>> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >>> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >>> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >>> Do you do this too? >> >> No. My husband will eat just about anything, and I simply don't >> cook with things I know he doesn't like: e.g., mushrooms, peas. >> He eats around cooked carrots. > >I often chuckle thinking back to a father and son who I worked with many >years ago. The father was a finicky eater and had a number of things he >especially hated, like asparagus and mushrooms. One evening they showed >up for the night shift and old Mort was in a foul mood. He wouldn't say >what was bugging him and he got upset when his son explained what had >happened. His wife had made Beef Stroganoff for supper. It was only >when he went back for his fourth helping that he learned there were >mushrooms in it. He was furious that his wife had served him mushrooms >that she knows he hates.... four servings worth. > > >> >> I was a fussy eater when I was a kid. One night they made me eat >> peas and I puked them right back up on the table. I'm not about >> to serve people stuff I know they don't like and lie to them >> about it. >> > >My brother still whines about the time he could not go out on Halloween >because he would not eat his peas. I had little sympathy because I >don't know what there is to dislike about peas. They are a very mild >tasting vegetable. We had a labrador that could wolf down a plate of leftovers but leave the peas in the bottom of his dish. We counted them one night before his dish was put down and he left every single one even though he appeared to just snarf the food up. |
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On 2017-01-17 10:39 AM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-01-16 8:23 PM, koko wrote: > Another story: > A former Moslem colleague loved Chinese food conveniently ignorant of > the fact that they used pork fat in the woks. At his farewell lunch, > arranged by a Chinese colleague, he scoffed down pork dishes thinking > they were beef. Was he really ignorant or did he just feign ignorance in order to enjoy something tasty? When I was in high school we often went across the street to the A&W for lunch. You could tell the Jewish kids by the lunches the ordered.... usually the cheese and bacon burgers. They could not eat them at home because of the dairy and meet combination and the pork. |
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On 2017-01-17 9:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-17 10:39 AM, graham wrote: >> On 2017-01-16 8:23 PM, koko wrote: > >> Another story: >> A former Moslem colleague loved Chinese food conveniently ignorant of >> the fact that they used pork fat in the woks. At his farewell lunch, >> arranged by a Chinese colleague, he scoffed down pork dishes thinking >> they were beef. > > > Was he really ignorant or did he just feign ignorance in order to enjoy > something tasty? The former! Had he known he'd have thrown a pink fit! |
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On 2017-01-17, Dave Smith > wrote:
> It is hard to accept that a dog would would gobble down fresh cat > turds would find the taste of peas objectionable. You tasted processed peas, lately? ![]() nb |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > I was a fussy eater when I was a kid. One night they made me eat > peas and I puked them right back up on the table. I'll bet they never served you peas again.. hahaha |
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On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 5:42:19 AM UTC-10, Sqwerts wrote:
> On 1/17/2017 12:04 AM, dsi1 wrote: > > Tonight we have shredded pork cooked in a sweet tangerine syrup with garlic and ginger. I wanted to get away from my standard > > Asian flavor profile. Mission accomplished. > > Wow, that sounds REAL good. > > I'll point my scooter your way. I have reached that point where I can no longer bear to prepare shredded pork the way I've done in the past. These things happen. |
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On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 5:41:23 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-17 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:23:14 PM UTC-5, koko wrote: > >> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > >> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > >> your recipes. > >> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > >> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > >> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > >> Do you do this too? > > > > No. My husband will eat just about anything, and I simply don't > > cook with things I know he doesn't like: e.g., mushrooms, peas. > > He eats around cooked carrots. > > I often chuckle thinking back to a father and son who I worked with many > years ago. The father was a finicky eater and had a number of things he > especially hated, like asparagus and mushrooms. One evening they showed > up for the night shift and old Mort was in a foul mood. He wouldn't say > what was bugging him and he got upset when his son explained what had > happened. His wife had made Beef Stroganoff for supper. It was only > when he went back for his fourth helping that he learned there were > mushrooms in it. He was furious that his wife had served him mushrooms > that she knows he hates.... four servings worth. > > > > > > I was a fussy eater when I was a kid. One night they made me eat > > peas and I puked them right back up on the table. I'm not about > > to serve people stuff I know they don't like and lie to them > > about it. > > > > My brother still whines about the time he could not go out on Halloween > because he would not eat his peas. I had little sympathy because I > don't know what there is to dislike about peas. They are a very mild > tasting vegetable. Those that dislike peas will understand at once - those that love peas will never be able to see. That's the breaks. |
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On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 10:41:23 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-17 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:23:14 PM UTC-5, koko wrote: > >> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about > >> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of > >> your recipes. > >> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not > >> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. > >> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. > >> Do you do this too? > > > > No. My husband will eat just about anything, and I simply don't > > cook with things I know he doesn't like: e.g., mushrooms, peas. > > He eats around cooked carrots. > > I often chuckle thinking back to a father and son who I worked with many > years ago. The father was a finicky eater and had a number of things he > especially hated, like asparagus and mushrooms. One evening they showed > up for the night shift and old Mort was in a foul mood. He wouldn't say > what was bugging him and he got upset when his son explained what had > happened. His wife had made Beef Stroganoff for supper. It was only > when he went back for his fourth helping that he learned there were > mushrooms in it. He was furious that his wife had served him mushrooms > that she knows he hates.... four servings worth. > > > > > > I was a fussy eater when I was a kid. One night they made me eat > > peas and I puked them right back up on the table. I'm not about > > to serve people stuff I know they don't like and lie to them > > about it. > > > > My brother still whines about the time he could not go out on Halloween > because he would not eat his peas. I had little sympathy because I > don't know what there is to dislike about peas. They are a very mild > tasting vegetable. Canned peas, cooked for another 20 minutes. I don't eat khaki vegetables. I like peas now, minimally cooked. Frozen peas just need to be heated through. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 1/17/2017 10:16 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 5:42:19 AM UTC-10, Sqwerts wrote: >> On 1/17/2017 12:04 AM, dsi1 wrote: >>> Tonight we have shredded pork cooked in a sweet tangerine syrup with garlic and ginger. I wanted to get away from my standard >>> Asian flavor profile. Mission accomplished. >> >> Wow, that sounds REAL good. >> >> I'll point my scooter your way. > > I have reached that point where I can no longer bear to prepare shredded pork the way I've done in the past. These things happen. > From great pain comes great growth. Just don't forsake the shoyu. |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:19:44 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote: >Those that dislike peas will understand at once - those that love peas will never be able to see. That's the breaks. Wow man, that's profound. You're RFC's answer to Confucius. Or maybe just highly confused. |
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On 2017-01-17 10:16 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 5:42:19 AM UTC-10, Sqwerts wrote: >> On 1/17/2017 12:04 AM, dsi1 wrote: >>> Tonight we have shredded pork cooked in a sweet tangerine syrup with garlic and ginger. I wanted to get away from my standard >>> Asian flavor profile. Mission accomplished. >> >> Wow, that sounds REAL good. >> >> I'll point my scooter your way. > > I have reached that point where I can no longer bear to prepare shredded pork the way I've done in the past. These things happen. > Over the last year, I've developed a strong dislike to peanuts. Go figure. |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 11:53:10 -0700, graham > wrote:
>Over the last year, I've developed a strong dislike to peanuts. Go figure. Charles Schulz will roll in his grave. |
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On 1/17/2017 1:42 PM, Je�us wrote:
>> That reminds me of my son, he hated liver, the rest of us loved it so >> for years only 'beef slices' were served to him ![]() > > Well, it *is* beef as far as I am concerned ![]() > I like liverwurst, can't stand liver even though it smells good cooking. |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:32:07 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 1/17/2017 1:42 PM, Je?us wrote: > >>> That reminds me of my son, he hated liver, the rest of us loved it so >>> for years only 'beef slices' were served to him ![]() >> >> Well, it *is* beef as far as I am concerned ![]() >> > >I like liverwurst, can't stand liver even though it smells good cooking. I love good liverwurst. Liver itself... I like in small doses. |
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
... On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 11:54:34 -0400, wrote: >On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:42:51 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>On 2017-01-17 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:23:14 PM UTC-5, koko wrote: >>>> Knowing certain people's likes and dislikes, and I'm not talking about >>>> allergies, how forthcoming are you about the ingredients in some of >>>> your recipes. >>>> Case in point, if I told my husband I was serving him hummus, he'd not >>>> eat it, but I tell him it's bean dip and he devoures it. >>>> This is just one example of soooo many I could share. >>>> Do you do this too? >>> >>> No. My husband will eat just about anything, and I simply don't >>> cook with things I know he doesn't like: e.g., mushrooms, peas. >>> He eats around cooked carrots. >> >>I often chuckle thinking back to a father and son who I worked with many >>years ago. The father was a finicky eater and had a number of things he >>especially hated, like asparagus and mushrooms. One evening they showed >>up for the night shift and old Mort was in a foul mood. He wouldn't say >>what was bugging him and he got upset when his son explained what had >>happened. His wife had made Beef Stroganoff for supper. It was only >>when he went back for his fourth helping that he learned there were >>mushrooms in it. He was furious that his wife had served him mushrooms >>that she knows he hates.... four servings worth. >> >> >>> >>> I was a fussy eater when I was a kid. One night they made me eat >>> peas and I puked them right back up on the table. I'm not about >>> to serve people stuff I know they don't like and lie to them >>> about it. >>> >> >>My brother still whines about the time he could not go out on Halloween >>because he would not eat his peas. I had little sympathy because I >>don't know what there is to dislike about peas. They are a very mild >>tasting vegetable. > >We had a labrador that could wolf down a plate of leftovers but leave >the peas in the bottom of his dish. We counted them one night before >his dish was put down and he left every single one even though he >appeared to just snarf the food up. that's just a natural genetic trait for all dogs and cats. It is their duty to clean peas for their human family ![]() Janet US =========== LOL -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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