On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 2:29:16 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 10:29:29 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > We had to get a 12
> > pack of Coke at Christmas because my nephew was coming and that is what
> > he drinks.
> >
> >
> Why didn't you let him by it himself?

You meant "...BUY it himself" and it's because it was Christmas!

John Kuthe...

On 1/21/2017 7:50 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 11:02:08 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> It's not a mystery. It never has been. There are very specific things
>> included and excluded from SNAP benefits. You can buy all the soda you
>> want. (Some states are thinking about changing that.)
>
> WIC is very specific about what you can buy. Food stamps don't
> exclude anything edible except for hot prepared goods and alcohol.
>
> A lot of states are implementing "half price vegetables" in some form
> or another, to encourage food stampers to buy more veggies.
>
> I think soda and a few other "foods" should be excluded. But once
> they start cherry picking its just going to turn into one big
> cluster**** between recipients, food manufacturers, and the various
> nutrition nannies.
>
> Philadelphia just implemented a 1.5% tax on every ounce of soda ($.18
> per can of soda) which about doubles the cost of a store brand soda.
> It also applies to diet soda, mixed juices, and juice drinks. So
> those food stampers who buy soda will be buying even less real food.
> Usually State and local taxes are not applied to food stamp purchases,
> but they structured this tax in a way that bypasses that hole. It's
> not really a tax but rather stright up extortion - the way Guido and
> The Boys used to visit shopkeepers once a week in Chicago and New
> York.
>
> -sw
>


They should let them buy what they want, and cigarettes too. Let them
enjoy life. And shorten the lifespan and save us medical and welfare
costs over the long run.

On 1/22/2017 10:51 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> At $2.16/12-pack in soda tax alone it certainly makes it worthwhile to
>> drive a few extra miles just to buy 2 cases and save $9. Plus they'll
>> buy most of their other groceries while there, too, driving the
>> revenue out of the city.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> Where I lived in Philly I was about 3 miles to a border. On a typical
> work day I'd be out of the city, on the highway, back in, then out
> again. Reverse that on the way home so it would be easy to avoid the
> tax for many.
>
> Now I live in CT a about 8 miles from the MA border where gas is 25
> cents cheaper. I work in MA too. In 36 years I've bought gas in CT
> maybe three times.

Given the chance and a short driving distance, I'm sure many people go
across state lines to spend less money.

Jill

On 2017-01-22 11:45 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/22/2017 10:51 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> At $2.16/12-pack in soda tax alone it certainly makes it worthwhile to
>>> drive a few extra miles just to buy 2 cases and save $9. Plus they'll
>>> buy most of their other groceries while there, too, driving the
>>> revenue out of the city.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>>
>> Where I lived in Philly I was about 3 miles to a border. On a typical
>> work day I'd be out of the city, on the highway, back in, then out
>> again. Reverse that on the way home so it would be easy to avoid the
>> tax for many.
>>
>> Now I live in CT a about 8 miles from the MA border where gas is 25
>> cents cheaper. I work in MA too. In 36 years I've bought gas in CT
>> maybe three times.
>
> Given the chance and a short driving distance, I'm sure many people go
> across state lines to spend less money.
>


Lots of people in the Niagara peninsula cross the border to get gas and
groceries. With their produce prices and the current exchange rate I
don't the advantage of burning gas to travel there, pay the $4 bridge
tool, put up with the hassle of crossing the border to save a few
dollars. My son does it a lot because he works very close to the border
and he can monitor bridge crossing times. If he finishes work around
midnight he can scoot back and forth in minutes.


FWIW, one of the places that sells cheap gas is on a reserve. I went
there once when our dollar was only worth about 70 cents US. At the
time I had a diesel pickup and could drive back and forth to work and
run errands for a week and the tank would be down to 1/4 and it would
costs $14 to fill it here. One day I was over there and went to the
reserve. I had a half tank of fuel when I pulled in and it cost me
$16US to fill it... roughly $21 CDN. WTF Their pump price was about
60% our price, I got 1/3 as much fuel and it ended up costing me 50%
more. That was no bargain at all, but lots of people seem to be
attracted by the cheap prices they advertise.

On 1/22/2017 12:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> Lots of people in the Niagara peninsula cross the border to get gas and
> groceries. With their produce prices and the current exchange rate I
> don't the advantage of burning gas to travel there, pay the $4 bridge
> tool, put up with the hassle of crossing the border to save a few
> dollars. My son does it a lot because he works very close to the border
> and he can monitor bridge crossing times. If he finishes work around
> midnight he can scoot back and forth in minutes.
>
>
> FWIW, one of the places that sells cheap gas is on a reserve. I went
> there once when our dollar was only worth about 70 cents US. At the
> time I had a diesel pickup and could drive back and forth to work and
> run errands for a week and the tank would be down to 1/4 and it would
> costs $14 to fill it here. One day I was over there and went to the
> reserve. I had a half tank of fuel when I pulled in and it cost me $16US
> to fill it... roughly $21 CDN. WTF Their pump price was about 60% our
> price, I got 1/3 as much fuel and it ended up costing me 50% more. That
> was no bargain at all, but lots of people seem to be attracted by the
> cheap prices they advertise.
>

There will always be the guy that burns a gallon of gas to save 50
cents. Many of us in this area cross into MA on a regular basis so it
is not a big deal. I work there, out doctors are there, some of out
shopping. This afternoon we are going to dinner in MA.

The state of CT is talking about putting tolls on the highway, but only
at the exit points. It would cost me $4 or $5 each trip so then I'd
have to take a smaller road. The politicians want to toll the truckers
and tourists but there will be no tolls in the area of the Capitol where
they work. .

On 2017-01-22 12:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> There will always be the guy that burns a gallon of gas to save 50
> cents. Many of us in this area cross into MA on a regular basis so it
> is not a big deal. I work there, out doctors are there, some of out
> shopping. This afternoon we are going to dinner in MA.

By the time most people drive to NY state, pay the $4 bridge toll and
sit at the border idling for an hour or more and then pay the exchange
rate, there is no savings. Last year I had to make a number of runs to
the Buffalo airport so I was already there, but I would never go over
just to save a little on the pump price.
>
> The state of CT is talking about putting tolls on the highway, but only
> at the exit points. It would cost me $4 or $5 each trip so then I'd
> have to take a smaller road. The politicians want to toll the truckers
> and tourists but there will be no tolls in the area of the Capitol where
> they work. .

They must have following the Toronto example. Everyone and their uncle
wants to live in a waterfront condo so they have put up dozens of high
rise buildings right where the main route into downtown routes all the
business and commuter traffic. They have done almost nothing to improve
the transportation infrastructure and now need to invest mega bucks into
upgrading the highway and the public transit system. They are blaming
all their woes on commuters, so instead of raising taxes their
incredibly low property taxes, they are slapping a toll on cars coming
into in those major highways. They seem to forget that all roads are
heavily subsidized by the provincial government.

On 2017-01-17 2:04 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 1:19:13 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>> What appalls me is how much soda EVERYONE seems to drink! I stopped buying it more than a couple of times a year once I became an adult. Same goes for potato chips.
>
> Mmmm. Potato chips. Slivers of greasy, salty goodness.

Dang. If I start eating those things I have trouble stopping, but I do
not by them. There was a time when I might get some if we were
entertaining, but these days I would be more likely to get something
else. I do treat myself to a bag or Doritos once a year.

My SiL was quite the dish when she first hooked up with my brother. Over
the years she started to gain weight and she is having a hard time
giving up her weakness... a large bag of potato chips while watching TV.
It is unfortunate because she now has knee problems, and they are
aggravated by the weight caused by the chips.

I often stop and talk with the wife of one of my fellow pickleball
players while she is waiting for him at the gym. The poor woman has a
ton of health and mobility issues and often tells me how she is having
such a hard time getting her cholesterol level down and nothing works.
Meanwhile, she keeps reaching into her purse and pulling out potato
chips, and she has a half litre bottle of Coke she is sipping on. She
really surprised me the other day when she was describing another woman
as tiny like she is, probably a size 10 "like me". I have bought enough
clothes for my wife, who is a size 10, to know what size 10 looks like.
This woman is no size 10. She is a 14 or more.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 07:53:25 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 1:50:26 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 10:57:38 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 11:23:56 AM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 08:04:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 12:19:13 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>> >> >> What appalls me is how much soda EVERYONE seems to drink! I stopped buying it more than a couple of times a year once I became an adult. Same goes for potato chips.
>> >> >...
>> >> >> Lenona.
>> >> >
>> >> >Artificially colored and flavored SUGAR WATER!! YUCK!! No way!
>> >> >I bottle my own tap water in Gatorade quart bottles I buy every
>> >> >once in a while just for the BOTTLES!
>> >> >
>> >> >John Kuthe...
>> >>
>> >> That's dumb as a rock... and you're probably using crappy tap water...
>> >
>> >Actually St Louis MO has some of the best tasting tap water in the nation!
>>
>> Lead cocktails are deelish!
>>
>> >I mean, we ARE at the confluence of the two largest rivers in the U.S.! Mississippi and Missouri.
>>
>> River water is about as polluted as it gets.
>>
>> >Never a water shortage here!!
>>
>> A glut of shit water.
>
>Ever hear of water purification? Gotta have the water to start with! :-)
>
>John Kuthe...

There's plenty of water in NYS, but drinking water is from deep
aquafers or private wells which doesn't require purification. My water
is from my own well and is clean but still I treat it myself; all
water entering is treated with a UV lamp, then is filtered for
sediment, goes through a water softener, and drinking water goes
through an RO filter where it's further first filtered for sediment
and passes through a charcoal filter to remove any odor. Just this
week I had a second storage tank added for the RO water so I'd have
enough for my new larger humidifier... buying distilled water gets
expensive and is a pain to lug from the store, plus stores don't stock
enough.

On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 07:53:25 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
....
> >Ever hear of water purification? Gotta have the water to start with! :-)
> >
> >John Kuthe...
>
> There's plenty of water in NYS, but drinking water is from deep
> aquafers or private wells which doesn't require purification. My water
> is from my own well and is clean but still I treat it myself; all
> water entering is treated with a UV lamp, then is filtered for
> sediment, goes through a water softener, and drinking water goes
> through an RO filter where it's further first filtered for sediment
> and passes through a charcoal filter to remove any odor. Just this
> week I had a second storage tank added for the RO water so I'd have
> enough for my new larger humidifier... buying distilled water gets
> expensive and is a pain to lug from the store, plus stores don't stock
> enough.

Hope the OIL AND GAS extraction corporations don't decide to FRACK in the aquifers feeding your well water!! After all you need all that gasoline to run your big stinking GASOLINE POWERED LAWN MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT!! Or are you gonna drill your own oil well and start refining your own petroleum?

One planet dude!! :-)

John Kuthe...

On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 12:46:13 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 07:53:25 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > > wrote:
> ...
> > >Ever hear of water purification? Gotta have the water to start with! :-)
> > >
> > >John Kuthe...
> >
> > There's plenty of water in NYS, but drinking water is from deep
> > aquafers or private wells which doesn't require purification. My water
> > is from my own well and is clean but still I treat it myself; all
> > water entering is treated with a UV lamp, then is filtered for
> > sediment, goes through a water softener, and drinking water goes
> > through an RO filter where it's further first filtered for sediment
> > and passes through a charcoal filter to remove any odor. Just this
> > week I had a second storage tank added for the RO water so I'd have
> > enough for my new larger humidifier... buying distilled water gets
> > expensive and is a pain to lug from the store, plus stores don't stock
> > enough.
>
> Hope the OIL AND GAS extraction corporations don't decide to FRACK in the aquifers feeding your well water!! After all you need all that gasoline to run your big stinking GASOLINE POWERED LAWN MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT!! Or are you gonna drill your own oil well and start refining your own petroleum?
>
> One planet dude!! :-)

I hate to ruin a perfectly good rant, but not all areas are suitable for
fracking. Oil and gas come from sedimentary formations, and the Adirondacks
are metamorphic in nature.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:39:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 12:46:13 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 07:53:25 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > > wrote:
>> ...
>> > >Ever hear of water purification? Gotta have the water to start with! :-)
>> > >
>> > >John Kuthe...
>> >
>> > There's plenty of water in NYS, but drinking water is from deep
>> > aquafers or private wells which doesn't require purification. My water
>> > is from my own well and is clean but still I treat it myself; all
>> > water entering is treated with a UV lamp, then is filtered for
>> > sediment, goes through a water softener, and drinking water goes
>> > through an RO filter where it's further first filtered for sediment
>> > and passes through a charcoal filter to remove any odor. Just this
>> > week I had a second storage tank added for the RO water so I'd have
>> > enough for my new larger humidifier... buying distilled water gets
>> > expensive and is a pain to lug from the store, plus stores don't stock
>> > enough.
>>
>> Hope the OIL AND GAS extraction corporations don't decide to FRACK in the aquifers feeding your well water!! After all you need all that gasoline to run your big stinking GASOLINE POWERED LAWN MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT!! Or are you gonna drill your own oil well and start refining your own petroleum?
>>
>> One planet dude!! :-)
>
>I hate to ruin a perfectly good rant, but not all areas are suitable for
>fracking. Oil and gas come from sedimentary formations, and the Adirondacks
>are metamorphic in nature.

Fracking is like chopping off the branch you're sitting on. They've
been chased out of our area.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:46:10 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 07:53:25 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>...
>> >Ever hear of water purification? Gotta have the water to start with! :-)
>> >
>> >John Kuthe...
>>
>> There's plenty of water in NYS, but drinking water is from deep
>> aquafers or private wells which doesn't require purification. My water
>> is from my own well and is clean but still I treat it myself; all
>> water entering is treated with a UV lamp, then is filtered for
>> sediment, goes through a water softener, and drinking water goes
>> through an RO filter where it's further first filtered for sediment
>> and passes through a charcoal filter to remove any odor. Just this
>> week I had a second storage tank added for the RO water so I'd have
>> enough for my new larger humidifier... buying distilled water gets
>> expensive and is a pain to lug from the store, plus stores don't stock
>> enough.
>
>Hope the OIL AND GAS extraction corporations don't decide to FRACK in the aquifers feeding your well water!! After all you need all that gasoline to run your big stinking GASOLINE POWERED LAWN MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT!! Or are you gonna drill your own oil well and start refining your own petroleum?
>
>One planet dude!! :-)

One planet maybe, but one country comes first:
<https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYOQx46WMAANVd8.png>

Food and gas? Who cares? I go across state lines to buy fireworks! LOL.

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
>Food and gas? Who cares?

Dawgs, Kraut, and Beans... you'll care... open that window! LOL

>I go across state lines to buy fireworks! LOL.

I've never wasted my money buying stupid chintzy fireworks, and
they're dangerous, only imbeciles buy fireworks... I'd much rather
watch the real deal displayed by the professionals. I can see very
nice fireworks from my rear windows, the local golf course sets off
beautiful displays every weekend all summer and on holidays... it's
three miles away but they're huge and I have a perfect view.

Sqwertz wrote:
>Nancy2 wrote:
>
>> Food and gas? Who cares? I go across state lines to buy fireworks! LOL.
>
>We just have to go across the county line. They set up shop within
>100 yards of the county lines. But tehy're only allowed to set ip
>shop about 4 weeks out of the year (end of December and end of
>June/beginning of July).

What yoose ignorant beaners do... couple weeks ago a whole bunch of
stupid wetbacks got blown up.

On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 11:31:39 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> >
> >Food and gas? Who cares?
>
> Dawgs, Kraut, and Beans... you'll care... open that window! LOL
>
> >I go across state lines to buy fireworks! LOL.
>
> I've never wasted my money buying stupid chintzy fireworks, and
> they're dangerous, only imbeciles buy fireworks...

What a little old lady you are. When I met my husband, one of
his hobbies was doing fireworks shows for parties and small communities.
With a little elementary training (this fuse goes boom if you create
friction while cutting it, and we all die), I started right in on
helping with the shows. Something like this:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDSmN-ldIBg>

We didn't have the luxury of having a separate mortar for every
shell, so we'd have someone (me) run up, drop the shell in the mortar,
step back, and then the guy with the flare (my husband) would light
the fuse and step back.

We were indiscriminate in our enjoyment of fireworks. Everything
from those stupid black snakes to 6" salutes had its place for us.
There's an old saying in fireworks: "Once you've smelled the smoke,
you're never free again." I miss it, but lawyers made it too
expensive. It's amazing what a policy for fireworks shows costs.
Of course, we're now too slow and creaky to hand-light a show.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
> Subject: NYT: "In the Shopping Cart of a Food Stamp Household: Lots of Soda"
> From: Cindy Hamilton >
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 11:31:39 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > Nancy2 wrote:
> > >
> > >Food and gas? Who cares?
> >
> > Dawgs, Kraut, and Beans... you'll care... open that window! LOL
> >
> > >I go across state lines to buy fireworks! LOL.
> >
> > I've never wasted my money buying stupid chintzy fireworks, and
> > they're dangerous, only imbeciles buy fireworks...
>
> What a little old lady you are. When I met my husband, one of
> his hobbies was doing fireworks shows for parties and small communities.
> With a little elementary training (this fuse goes boom if you create
> friction while cutting it, and we all die), I started right in on
> helping with the shows. Something like this:
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDSmN-ldIBg>
>
> We didn't have the luxury of having a separate mortar for every
> shell, so we'd have someone (me) run up, drop the shell in the mortar,
> step back, and then the guy with the flare (my husband) would light
> the fuse and step back.
>
> We were indiscriminate in our enjoyment of fireworks.

We used to be; we used to hold a huge bonfire and fireworks party in
our garden every November 5th (Guy Fawkes night is a UK tradition; GF
plotted to blow up Parliament, got caught, and condemned to be hanged
drawn and quartered. We burn his effigy on the bonfire).

I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.

Janet UK

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:54:54 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> Subject: NYT: "In the Shopping Cart of a Food Stamp Household: Lots of Soda"
>> From: Cindy Hamilton >
>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>>
>> What a little old lady you are. When I met my husband, one of
>> his hobbies was doing fireworks shows for parties and small communities.
>> With a little elementary training (this fuse goes boom if you create
>> friction while cutting it, and we all die), I started right in on
>> helping with the shows. Something like this:
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDSmN-ldIBg>
>>
>> We didn't have the luxury of having a separate mortar for every
>> shell, so we'd have someone (me) run up, drop the shell in the mortar,
>> step back, and then the guy with the flare (my husband) would light
>> the fuse and step back.
>>
>> We were indiscriminate in our enjoyment of fireworks.
>
> We used to be; we used to hold a huge bonfire and fireworks party in
>our garden every November 5th (Guy Fawkes night is a UK tradition; GF
>plotted to blow up Parliament, got caught, and condemned to be hanged
>drawn and quartered. We burn his effigy on the bonfire).
>
> I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
>display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
>lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.

Fireworks should be banned. Make them with CGI and broadcast them on
TV for diehards.

On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 12:54:59 PM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> > Subject: NYT: "In the Shopping Cart of a Food Stamp Household: Lots of Soda"
> > From: Cindy Hamilton >
> > Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
> >
> > On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 11:31:39 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > Nancy2 wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Food and gas? Who cares?
> > >
> > > Dawgs, Kraut, and Beans... you'll care... open that window! LOL
> > >
> > > >I go across state lines to buy fireworks! LOL.
> > >
> > > I've never wasted my money buying stupid chintzy fireworks, and
> > > they're dangerous, only imbeciles buy fireworks...
> >
> > What a little old lady you are. When I met my husband, one of
> > his hobbies was doing fireworks shows for parties and small communities.
> > With a little elementary training (this fuse goes boom if you create
> > friction while cutting it, and we all die), I started right in on
> > helping with the shows. Something like this:
> >
> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDSmN-ldIBg>
> >
> > We didn't have the luxury of having a separate mortar for every
> > shell, so we'd have someone (me) run up, drop the shell in the mortar,
> > step back, and then the guy with the flare (my husband) would light
> > the fuse and step back.
> >
> > We were indiscriminate in our enjoyment of fireworks.
>
> We used to be; we used to hold a huge bonfire and fireworks party in
> our garden every November 5th (Guy Fawkes night is a UK tradition; GF
> plotted to blow up Parliament, got caught, and condemned to be hanged
> drawn and quartered. We burn his effigy on the bonfire).

The weather is cold, but at least you've got the advantage of early
nightfall. I can't stay up late enough on the 4th of July to see
fireworks.

> I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
> display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
> lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.
>
> Janet UK

Yep, it's dangerous as hell. The crowd was certainly too close. Somebody
certainly would have been sued within an inch of his life had that
happened in the U.S.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:00:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:54:54 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >> Subject: NYT: "In the Shopping Cart of a Food Stamp Household: Lots of Soda"
> >> From: Cindy Hamilton >
> >> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
> >>
> >> What a little old lady you are. When I met my husband, one of
> >> his hobbies was doing fireworks shows for parties and small communities.
> >> With a little elementary training (this fuse goes boom if you create
> >> friction while cutting it, and we all die), I started right in on
> >> helping with the shows. Something like this:
> >>
> >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDSmN-ldIBg>
> >>
> >> We didn't have the luxury of having a separate mortar for every
> >> shell, so we'd have someone (me) run up, drop the shell in the mortar,
> >> step back, and then the guy with the flare (my husband) would light
> >> the fuse and step back.
> >>
> >> We were indiscriminate in our enjoyment of fireworks.
> >
> > We used to be; we used to hold a huge bonfire and fireworks party in
> >our garden every November 5th (Guy Fawkes night is a UK tradition; GF
> >plotted to blow up Parliament, got caught, and condemned to be hanged
> >drawn and quartered. We burn his effigy on the bonfire).
> >
> > I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
> >display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
> >lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.
>
> Fireworks should be banned. Make them with CGI and broadcast them on
> TV for diehards.

Why, Sheldon. I had no idea you're a liberal who thinks the government
must make life safe for everyone.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 11:23:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:00:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:54:54 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> > I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
>> >display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
>> >lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.
>>
>> Fireworks should be banned. Make them with CGI and broadcast them on
>> TV for diehards.
>
>Why, Sheldon. I had no idea you're a liberal who thinks the government
>must make life safe for everyone.

Fireworks are boring. Fireworks are childish. Fireworks are dangerous.
Fireworks scare pets.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 11:23:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:00:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:54:54 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> > I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
>> >display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
>> >lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.
>>
>> Fireworks should be banned. Make them with CGI and broadcast them on
>> TV for diehards.
>
>Why, Sheldon. I had no idea you're a liberal who thinks the government
>must make life safe for everyone.

Fireworks are boring. Fireworks are childish. Fireworks are dangerous.
Fireworks scare pets.

==============

My dogs are always terrified of them



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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 20:56:17 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 11:23:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:00:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:54:54 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>> > I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
>>> >display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
>>> >lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.
>>>
>>> Fireworks should be banned. Make them with CGI and broadcast them on
>>> TV for diehards.
>>
>>Why, Sheldon. I had no idea you're a liberal who thinks the government
>>must make life safe for everyone.
>
>Fireworks are boring. Fireworks are childish. Fireworks are dangerous.
>Fireworks scare pets.
>
>==============
>
>My dogs are always terrified of them

We can sometimes see them in the distance but never hear them, so the
animals are ok.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 11:23:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:00:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:54:54 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>> > I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
>>> >display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
>>> >lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.
>>>
>>> Fireworks should be banned. Make them with CGI and broadcast them on
>>> TV for diehards.
>>
>>Why, Sheldon. I had no idea you're a liberal who thinks the government
>>must make life safe for everyone.
>
> Fireworks are boring. Fireworks are childish. Fireworks are dangerous.
> Fireworks scare pets.
>
> ==============
>
> My dogs are always terrified of them

My other dog was and got absolutely crazy with the fireworks, this one not
at all, same thing with thunder. Guess it depends on the dog.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 11:23:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:00:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:54:54 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>> > I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
>>> >display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
>>> >lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.
>>>
>>> Fireworks should be banned. Make them with CGI and broadcast them on
>>> TV for diehards.
>>
>>Why, Sheldon. I had no idea you're a liberal who thinks the government
>>must make life safe for everyone.
>
> Fireworks are boring. Fireworks are childish. Fireworks are dangerous.
> Fireworks scare pets.
>
> ==============
>
> My dogs are always terrified of them

My other dog was and got absolutely crazy with the fireworks, this one not
at all, same thing with thunder. Guess it depends on the dog.

Cheri

==============

True. A neighbours dog just looks at them and goes back to sleep!




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On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 3:06:30 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 11:23:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:00:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:54:54 -0000, Janet > wrote:
> >>
> >> > I've never bought fireworks since attending a big professional
> >> >display where I saw one of the big mortars blow the leg off the man
> >> >lighting it and fire fragments into the crowd causing serious injuries.
> >>
> >> Fireworks should be banned. Make them with CGI and broadcast them on
> >> TV for diehards.
> >
> >Why, Sheldon. I had no idea you're a liberal who thinks the government
> >must make life safe for everyone.
>
> Fireworks are boring. Fireworks are childish. Fireworks are dangerous.
> Fireworks scare pets.

Well, that's one opinion. I've noticed that you consider many
things childish. I envy your advanced sophistication.

Cindy Hamilton

My boxer was very afraid of thunder until she got old and went deaf.

On 2017-01-25 9:58 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 04:38:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>
>> My boxer was very afraid of thunder until she got old and went deaf.
>
> As the philosopher said: "Every disadvantage has an advantage."
>


There can be some relief to a dog aging and losing its acute hearing. We
got our current dog at the age of five and it seemed to be his life's
goal to bark at every strange noise. We like to sleep with the windows
open. There is a rail line about 2 1/2 miles away. A couple times a
night a train goes by and toots its horn. The coyotes start carrying on
in response to the train horn. Other packs reply to the first pack. Then
my dog starts carrying on. He now sleeps through the night, and so do we.

On 1/25/2017 5:38 AM, wrote:
> My boxer was very afraid of thunder until she got old and went deaf.
>

You are a conspiracy SHITBAG- chief!