On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:54:09 -0800, The New Other Guy
> wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:35:05 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>>IOW this site has absolutely NO credibility! She's nothing but a quack,
>>writ large!
>
>Absolutely, but when dealing with others you DON'T really know, like on
>the Net, you can't really convince a person incapable of critical thinking
>that they AREN'T thinking when they accept clearly junk
>pseudo-science.

Did you look at the ingredient list McDonalds gives? And how close it
is to the list at Ophelia's link?

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:00:48 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:25:59 -0700, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:54:43 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:51:56 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:09:01 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:03:09 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:04:42 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:30:12 -0800, The New Other Guy
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TOTALLY fake and scare-mongering.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never ceases to amuse me how defensive some people can get over a
>>>>>>> faceless corporation that has the gall to describe their business as
>>>>>>> a 'restaurant' and sells complete shit to hapless consumers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That doesn't justify another entity launching baseless smear campaigns
>>>>>>preying on gullible people with utter bullshit just to gain page hits
>>>>>>and advertising $$$.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm hardly a McDonalds sympathizer. I would defend Trump and Hillary
>>>>>>when somebody tries to impress me with pure bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok, let's ask McDonalds themselves:
>>>>><nutrition.mcdonalds.com/usnutritionexchange/ingredientslist.pdf>
>>>>>
>>>>>FRENCH FRIES:
>>>>>Ingredients: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil,
>>>>>Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk
>>>>>Derivatives]*, Citric Acid
>>>>>[Preservative]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (Maintain Color),
>>>>>Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil,
>>>>>Hydrogenated Soybean
>>>>>Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid added to preserve freshness),
>>>>>Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
>>>>>*
>>>>>CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK.
>>>>>*Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as
>>>>>starting ingredients.
>>>>
>>>>Shrug . . . so?
>>>
>>>So it's not fake, it's not scare-mongering, it's not a smear campaign.
>>>It's... drum roll... true. Get it?
>
>Since when is MSG a nerve and brain toxin, asswipe? No crawl back
>into your little troll hole happy with your bi-yearly reply from me.

I'll ignore your elementary way of expressing yourself and just say
that I agree they should have left out "brain toxin". The list is bad
enough without it and I very much doubt MSG is a brain toxin. Other
than that, the list was pretty correct.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:28:13 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:25:53 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 04:33:35 +1100, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:25:59 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:54:43 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:51:56 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Shrug . . . so?
>>>>>
>>>>>So it's not fake, it's not scare-mongering, it's not a smear campaign.
>>>>>It's... drum roll... true. Get it?
>>>>
>>>>so, basically it is potatoes fried in an oil (it's really scary when
>>>>they list out all the possible kinds of oil, isn't it?)and sprinkled
>>>>with salt. Citric acid to keep the potatoes from turning brown (when
>>>>I want to keep a vegetable/fruit from turning brown I crush a vitamin
>>>>C tablet and add it to water) while the potatoes wait for a customer
>>>>to show up and something to keep the hot oil from foaming over on the
>>>>McDs cooks. (I always try to have the potatoes really, really dry
>>>>before I drop them into the fryer, but I'm not cooking for hundreds).
>>>>Truly nefarious.
>>>
>>>You're skipping a lot there. I'd rather eat French fries that consist
>>>of potato, oil and salt. But if you feel different, enjoy
>>
>>yeah, the BS
>
>I know who you're trying to impress

You've got another conspiracy theory now? Someone else out to get you?
I won't suggest that you really read.
Janet US

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:27:50 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>Disgusting!! Nothing other than potatoes and oil should be in a french fry!
>>Part of the reason I call them McCraps!
>
>Not to mention they are also an extruded pudding of instant spuds
>that're frozen.
snip

Not this again. I suggest that you really go to McDonalds, buy some
fries and examine them. No need to eat them, just examine them.
Janet US

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:17:41 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>
>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:28:13 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:25:53 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 04:33:35 +1100, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:25:59 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>so, basically it is potatoes fried in an oil (it's really scary when
>>>>>they list out all the possible kinds of oil, isn't it?)and sprinkled
>>>>>with salt. Citric acid to keep the potatoes from turning brown (when
>>>>>I want to keep a vegetable/fruit from turning brown I crush a vitamin
>>>>>C tablet and add it to water) while the potatoes wait for a customer
>>>>>to show up and something to keep the hot oil from foaming over on the
>>>>>McDs cooks. (I always try to have the potatoes really, really dry
>>>>>before I drop them into the fryer, but I'm not cooking for hundreds).
>>>>>Truly nefarious.
>>>>
>>>>You're skipping a lot there. I'd rather eat French fries that consist
>>>>of potato, oil and salt. But if you feel different, enjoy
>>>
>>>yeah, the BS
>>
>>I know who you're trying to impress
>
>You've got another conspiracy theory now? Someone else out to get you?
>I won't suggest that you really read.

Relax, nobody's out to get me

On 2017-01-18 4:49 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 5:20:24 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...nch-fries.html
>>>
>>> I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad I don't
>>
>> I wonder how much she makes a month from her blog? She is preaching
>> that the sky is falling. BTW, I don't eat at McDonalds
>> Janet US
>
> I wonder what her credentials actually mean. Yeah, she's got a PhD.
> It could be in underwater basketweaving.
>
> Let's see. She lists
> DNM, which appears to be Doctor of Natural Medicine, or perhaps Doctor
> of Naturopathic Medicine.
> RNCP, which is Registered Nutritional Consulting Practitioner
> ROHP, which is Registered Orthomolecular Health Practitioner
>
Gillian McHeath a well-known British quack claimed to have a Ph.D in
nutrition but it came from an uncredited institution**. She was eventually
forced by the Advertising Standards people in the UK. Therefore, that
Ph.D. above is suspect.
The claim that she is "Registered" amuses me. Who keeps the register? Is
it sanctioned by the government? Are they governed by a something like
the AMA?
There are scads of "schools/colleges" of "natural medicine" "nutrition"
etc on the wet coast offering courses leading to becoming a "Registered
Practitioner" in some quack pursuit. That word registered gives them an
air of respectability and gives the impression that their qualifications
are valid.

**Bad Science by Ben Goldacre

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:58:12 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:16:39 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:40:05 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>I wonder what her credentials actually mean. Yeah, she's got a PhD.
>>>It could be in underwater basketweaving.
>>>
>>>Let's see. She lists
>>>DNM, which appears to be Doctor of Natural Medicine, or perhaps Doctor
>>>of Naturopathic Medicine.
>>>RNCP, which is Registered Nutritional Consulting Practitioner
>>>ROHP, which is Registered Orthomolecular Health Practitioner
>>>
>>>I think you can get those credentials over the internet.
>>>
>>>I'm a little curious about what "orthomolecular health" is, but
>>>it probably would just make me angry if I found out about it.
>>>Still, better to know than not know. Yep, I was right:
>>><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine>
>>>You can cure bipolar disorder (or snakebite) with vitamins.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>>===================
>>>
>>>Actually the list that Bruce posted was enough for me.
>>
>>It pretty much confirmed the list in your link.
>>=======
>>
>>I didn't go through it with a fine toothcomb but it looked like something
>>I
>>wouldn't want.
>>
>>Like I said ... a potato and a knife is a good thing
>
>I agree. Even if all those McD ingredients wouldn't kill you, it's
>just weird that they need them.
>
>================
>
>I make pretty good chips (fries) if say so myself *strutt*
>
>They can keep their additions. My only additions are salt and malt vinegar
>
>*awaits the complaints*

Some will now think you're a tree hugging commie.

=============

So long as Janet US doesn't see! She has noooodles you know !!!!!



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:41:20 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:58:12 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:16:39 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I didn't go through it with a fine toothcomb but it looked like something
>>>I
>>>wouldn't want.
>>>
>>>Like I said ... a potato and a knife is a good thing
>>
>>I agree. Even if all those McD ingredients wouldn't kill you, it's
>>just weird that they need them.
>>
>>================
>>
>>I make pretty good chips (fries) if say so myself *strutt*
>>
>>They can keep their additions. My only additions are salt and malt vinegar
>>
>>*awaits the complaints*
>
>Some will now think you're a tree hugging commie.
>
>=============
>
>So long as Janet US doesn't see! She has noooodles you know !!!!!

She's a dangerous woman.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:03:09 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:04:42 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:30:12 -0800, The New Other Guy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...nch-fries.html
>>>>
>>>>I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad I don't
>>>
>>>
>>>TOTALLY fake and scare-mongering.
>>
>>Never ceases to amuse me how defensive some people can get over a
>>faceless corporation that has the gall to describe their business as
>>a 'restaurant' and sells complete shit to hapless consumers
>
>>I had a look at that link and it's technically correct (for the U.S
>>market at least) other than that MSG is still open for debate. What
>>aspect of it do you specifically object to? Is it REALITY that bothers
>>you?
>
>That doesn't justify another entity launching baseless smear campaigns
>preying on gullible people with utter bullshit just to gain page hits
>and advertising $$$.
>
>I'm hardly a McDonalds sympathizer. I would defend Trump and Hillary
>when somebody tries to impress me with pure bullshit.

Whilst I am less than sympathetic to the mcdonalds corporation for a
variety of reasons (beyond the quality of their food), I understand
your POV. I was just pointing out that it was essentially correct in
spite of the emotive language and the defensiveness of people on
something like this just makes me laugh.

But yes... even their Australian 'fries' (much simpler basic
ingredients) do taste like crap and have no texture. Oil, potatoes and
salt is always going to be much better. Not that I'm a huge fan of
fries, as such.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:25:59 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:54:43 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:51:56 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:09:01 +1100, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:03:09 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:04:42 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:30:12 -0800, The New Other Guy
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TOTALLY fake and scare-mongering.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never ceases to amuse me how defensive some people can get over a
>>>>>> faceless corporation that has the gall to describe their business as
>>>>>> a 'restaurant' and sells complete shit to hapless consumers
>>>>>
>>>>>That doesn't justify another entity launching baseless smear campaigns
>>>>>preying on gullible people with utter bullshit just to gain page hits
>>>>>and advertising $$$.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm hardly a McDonalds sympathizer. I would defend Trump and Hillary
>>>>>when somebody tries to impress me with pure bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>Ok, let's ask McDonalds themselves:
>>>><nutrition.mcdonalds.com/usnutritionexchange/ingredientslist.pdf>
>>>>
>>>>FRENCH FRIES:
>>>>Ingredients: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil,
>>>>Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk
>>>>Derivatives]*, Citric Acid
>>>>[Preservative]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (Maintain Color),
>>>>Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil,
>>>>Hydrogenated Soybean
>>>>Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid added to preserve freshness),
>>>>Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
>>>>*
>>>>CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK.
>>>>*Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as
>>>>starting ingredients.
>>>
>>>Shrug . . . so?
>>
>>So it's not fake, it's not scare-mongering, it's not a smear campaign.
>>It's... drum roll... true. Get it?
>
>so, basically it is potatoes fried in an oil (it's really scary when
>they list out all the possible kinds of oil, isn't it?)and sprinkled
>with salt. Citric acid to keep the potatoes from turning brown (when
>I want to keep a vegetable/fruit from turning brown I crush a vitamin
>C tablet and add it to water) while the potatoes wait for a customer
>to show up and something to keep the hot oil from foaming over on the
>McDs cooks. (I always try to have the potatoes really, really dry
>before I drop them into the fryer, but I'm not cooking for hundreds).
>Truly nefarious.

LOL.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 06:45:20 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:03:09 -0600, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:04:42 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:30:12 -0800, The New Other Guy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>TOTALLY fake and scare-mongering.
>>>
>>>Never ceases to amuse me how defensive some people can get over a
>>>faceless corporation that has the gall to describe their business as
>>>a 'restaurant' and sells complete shit to hapless consumers
>>
>>>I had a look at that link and it's technically correct (for the U.S
>>>market at least) other than that MSG is still open for debate. What
>>>aspect of it do you specifically object to? Is it REALITY that bothers
>>>you?
>>
>>That doesn't justify another entity launching baseless smear campaigns
>>preying on gullible people with utter bullshit just to gain page hits
>>and advertising $$$.
>>
>>I'm hardly a McDonalds sympathizer. I would defend Trump and Hillary
>>when somebody tries to impress me with pure bullshit.
>
>Whilst I am less than sympathetic to the mcdonalds corporation for a
>variety of reasons (beyond the quality of their food), I understand
>your POV. I was just pointing out that it was essentially correct in
>spite of the emotive language and the defensiveness of people on
>something like this just makes me laugh.
>
>But yes... even their Australian 'fries' (much simpler basic
>ingredients) do taste like crap and have no texture. Oil, potatoes and
>salt is always going to be much better. Not that I'm a huge fan of
>fries, as such.

You forgot to add that his qualification "pure bullshit" was... pure
bullshit. Strange that some people are always trying to please this
guy.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 06:50:15 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 06:45:20 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:03:09 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:04:42 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:30:12 -0800, The New Other Guy
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>TOTALLY fake and scare-mongering.
>>>>
>>>>Never ceases to amuse me how defensive some people can get over a
>>>>faceless corporation that has the gall to describe their business as
>>>>a 'restaurant' and sells complete shit to hapless consumers
>>>
>>>>I had a look at that link and it's technically correct (for the U.S
>>>>market at least) other than that MSG is still open for debate. What
>>>>aspect of it do you specifically object to? Is it REALITY that bothers
>>>>you?
>>>
>>>That doesn't justify another entity launching baseless smear campaigns
>>>preying on gullible people with utter bullshit just to gain page hits
>>>and advertising $$$.
>>>
>>>I'm hardly a McDonalds sympathizer. I would defend Trump and Hillary
>>>when somebody tries to impress me with pure bullshit.
>>
>>Whilst I am less than sympathetic to the mcdonalds corporation for a
>>variety of reasons (beyond the quality of their food), I understand
>>your POV. I was just pointing out that it was essentially correct in
>>spite of the emotive language and the defensiveness of people on
>>something like this just makes me laugh.
>>
>>But yes... even their Australian 'fries' (much simpler basic
>>ingredients) do taste like crap and have no texture. Oil, potatoes and
>>salt is always going to be much better. Not that I'm a huge fan of
>>fries, as such.
>
>You forgot to add that his qualification "pure bullshit" was... pure
>bullshit. Strange that some people are always trying to please this
>guy.

I'm not. I'm just stating my point of view on the subject.

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 1:58:21 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:16:39 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >"Bruce" wrote in message
> .. .
> >
> >On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:40:05 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>I wonder what her credentials actually mean. Yeah, she's got a PhD.
> >>It could be in underwater basketweaving.
> >>
> >>Let's see. She lists
> >>DNM, which appears to be Doctor of Natural Medicine, or perhaps Doctor
> >>of Naturopathic Medicine.
> >>RNCP, which is Registered Nutritional Consulting Practitioner
> >>ROHP, which is Registered Orthomolecular Health Practitioner
> >>
> >>I think you can get those credentials over the internet.
> >>
> >>I'm a little curious about what "orthomolecular health" is, but
> >>it probably would just make me angry if I found out about it.
> >>Still, better to know than not know. Yep, I was right:
> >><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine>
> >>You can cure bipolar disorder (or snakebite) with vitamins.
> >>
> >>Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >>===================
> >>
> >>Actually the list that Bruce posted was enough for me.
> >
> >It pretty much confirmed the list in your link.
> >=======
> >
> >I didn't go through it with a fine toothcomb but it looked like something I
> >wouldn't want.
> >
> >Like I said ... a potato and a knife is a good thing
>
> I agree. Even if all those McD ingredients wouldn't kill you, it's
> just weird that they need them.
>
> ================
>
> I make pretty good chips (fries) if say so myself *strutt*
>
> They can keep their additions. My only additions are salt and malt vinegar
>
> *awaits the complaints*

No complaint from me. I usually use just salt, but a little malt
vinegar occasionally finds its way onto my fries.

Cindy Hamilton

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:41:20 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:58:12 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:16:39 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I didn't go through it with a fine toothcomb but it looked like something
>>>I
>>>wouldn't want.
>>>
>>>Like I said ... a potato and a knife is a good thing
>>
>>I agree. Even if all those McD ingredients wouldn't kill you, it's
>>just weird that they need them.
>>
>>================
>>
>>I make pretty good chips (fries) if say so myself *strutt*
>>
>>They can keep their additions. My only additions are salt and malt
>>vinegar
>>
>>*awaits the complaints*
>
>Some will now think you're a tree hugging commie.
>
>=============
>
>So long as Janet US doesn't see! She has noooodles you know !!!!!

She's a dangerous woman.

===

Nodnodnod


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 1/18/2017 12:46 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> They'd get the same headache by overdosing on ordinary table salt. MSG
> is six times more efficient than NACL at enhancing food flavor
> therefore by adding six times less MSG than NACL to food one ingests
> 60% less sodium.

Interesting mathematics...

On 1/18/2017 10:49 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I have eaten in McD's once in my life and that was enough.
>
> Seriously....I can't imagine that attitude.
> It's different food and unique but I can't imagine people
> actually hating it.
>
> yum....Yum....YUM!!!!! heheh
>

Every Thursday I pick up two breakfast sandwiches and have tea with a
friend at work. Being semi-retired a couple of days I get home at noon.
One of the days I often stop at McDs for a burger for my wife and
myself. Gourmet? No, but quick and easy.

On 2017-01-18 1:38 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 1/18/2017 12:46 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> They'd get the same headache by overdosing on ordinary table salt. MSG
>> is six times more efficient than NACL at enhancing food flavor
>> therefore by adding six times less MSG than NACL to food one ingests
>> 60% less sodium.
>
> Interesting mathematics...
>
Why do people say 6x less? It always mixes up multiplication with division.

On 2017-01-18 10:49 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I have eaten in McD's once in my life and that was enough.
>
> Seriously....I can't imagine that attitude.
> It's different food and unique but I can't imagine people
> actually hating it.
>

I can. I have eaten there a few times, but not in a long time, other
than last the coffee and pastry I had last August and a coffee about two
years before that. I don't like their food. Their hamburgers are crummy
and their fries are worse. Somewhat cheap and fast is their secret.

On 2017-01-18 12:45 PM, Gary wrote:

> McD's fries are good. Wendy's a bit better. They probably include lots
> of crap too. Eat them rarely (if you like them) and don't worry
> about the ingredients.
>

You are entitled to your opinion, but mine is that McDonald's fries are
pretty bad. IMO they rank down there with the frozen fries heated up in
the oven type. They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
they are pretty compared to real fries.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>they are pretty compared to real fries.

There's no comparison whatsoever. It's like comparing instant with
real coffee.

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 12:51:41 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> They probably need all those ingredients because they are trucked in from
> distribution centers, not made on site.
>
> N.
>
>
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally the voice of reason.
Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
prepared in this manner. Micky D's is doing nothing different
from any of the hamburger fast food establishments. Surely I
can't be the only person that watches "How It's Made" or
"Modern Marvels" or "Food Factory USA" or "Food Tech."

On 1/18/2017 12:03 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I would defend Trump and Hillary
> when somebody tries to impress me with pure bullshit.
>
> -sw

You'd eat both their ASSES!

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 2:44:48 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Every Thursday I pick up two breakfast sandwiches and have tea with a
> friend at work. Being semi-retired a couple of days I get home at noon.
> One of the days I often stop at McDs for a burger for my wife and
> myself. Gourmet? No, but quick and easy.
>
>
I don't eat at McDonald's but a couple times a year but their
sausage/egg McMuffin with a cup of coffee is my favorite
breakfast sandwich. It's just a sausage patty plopped on
an English muffin with an egg and a slice of cheese but to
me it is lip smacking.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 12:51:41 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> They probably need all those ingredients because they are trucked in from
>> distribution centers, not made on site.
>>
>> N.
>>
>>
>Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally the voice of reason.
>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
>prepared in this manner. Micky D's is doing nothing different
>from any of the hamburger fast food establishments. Surely I
>can't be the only person that watches "How It's Made" or
>"Modern Marvels" or "Food Factory USA" or "Food Tech."

What a country you live in.

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 4:40:58 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
>
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >Surely I
> >can't be the only person that watches "How It's Made" or
> >"Modern Marvels" or "Food Factory USA" or "Food Tech."
>
> What a country you live in.
>
>
Yep!

On 1/18/2017 11:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> One of my favorite meals is a 12 egg potato omelet, four
> servings.

How many damned people are you feeding anyway????

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:37:42 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 2:44:48 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Every Thursday I pick up two breakfast sandwiches and have tea with a
>> friend at work. Being semi-retired a couple of days I get home at noon.
>> One of the days I often stop at McDs for a burger for my wife and
>> myself. Gourmet? No, but quick and easy.
>>
>>
>I don't eat at McDonald's but a couple times a year but their
>sausage/egg McMuffin with a cup of coffee is my favorite
>breakfast sandwich. It's just a sausage patty plopped on
>an English muffin with an egg and a slice of cheese but to
>me it is lip smacking.

my favorite a couple of times a year is the fish sandwich.
Janet US

On 1/18/2017 12:00 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Since when is MSG a nerve and brain toxin, asswipe? No crawl back
> into your little troll hole happy with your bi-yearly reply from me.
>
> -sw

You are going to get your fat ass KICKED!

On 1/18/2017 1:57 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I shun the use of grammatically, scientifically, and
> mathematically incorrect phrases

STFU YOU FAT ****WIT!

On 1/18/2017 1:59 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> That you for also bringing it up! :-)
>
> -sw

When do you start to fatten yourself up like the Christmas goose?

High school:

http://recfoodcooking.com/mug/shot/Steve%20Wertz.jpg

Today:

https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg

On 1/18/2017 3:34 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Sodium acid pyrophosphate
When do you start to fatten yourself up like the Christmas goose?

High school:

http://recfoodcooking.com/mug/shot/Steve%20Wertz.jpg

Today:

https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg

On 1/18/2017 3:40 PM, Je�us wrote:
> What a country you live in.

The GREATEST NATION ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH!

> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
>>prepared in this manner.

You are "terribly mistaken"!

In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.

>> Surely I can't be the only person that watches "How It's Made" or
>> "Modern Marvels" or "Food Factory USA" or "Food Tech."

You may be the only person that actually believes such bunk.

nb

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-18 12:45 PM, Gary wrote:
>
>> McD's fries are good. Wendy's a bit better. They probably include lots
>> of crap too. Eat them rarely (if you like them) and don't worry
>> about the ingredients.
>>
>
>You are entitled to your opinion, but mine is that McDonald's fries are
>pretty bad. IMO they rank down there with the frozen fries heated up in
>the oven type. They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>they are pretty compared to real fries.

Like most people these days Gary has obviously never eaten real
fries... since Gary lives on fast food odds are he has never once in
his adult life eaten a potato that hasn't been frozen/dehy or from a
can of soup.

Jeßus wrote:
>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>they are pretty good compared to real fries.
>
>There's no comparison whatsoever. It's like comparing instant with
>real coffee.

'Zactly. Last time I ate dehy potatoes I was cooking navy chow. I've
tried frozen fries from the market freezer section maybe three times,
they're awful. I ate McDs fries once, took 2-3 bites and tossed the
rest for the critters... I'd much rather a bag of chitata pips.

On 1/18/2017 4:22 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I&O is infamous for having the worst fries

STFU fatty, you'd eat a baby's ass through a park bench!

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:23:06 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>Jeßus wrote:
>>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>>they are pretty good compared to real fries.
>>
>>There's no comparison whatsoever. It's like comparing instant with
>>real coffee.
>
>'Zactly. Last time I ate dehy potatoes I was cooking navy chow. I've
>tried frozen fries from the market freezer section maybe three times,
>they're awful. I ate McDs fries once, took 2-3 bites and tossed the
>rest for the critters... I'd much rather a bag of chitata pips.

yet you use dehydrated vegetables and say they are better.
Janet US

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 12:37:45 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 2:44:48 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > Every Thursday I pick up two breakfast sandwiches and have tea with a
> > friend at work. Being semi-retired a couple of days I get home at noon..
> > One of the days I often stop at McDs for a burger for my wife and
> > myself. Gourmet? No, but quick and easy.
> >
> >
> I don't eat at McDonald's but a couple times a year but their
> sausage/egg McMuffin with a cup of coffee is my favorite
> breakfast sandwich. It's just a sausage patty plopped on
> an English muffin with an egg and a slice of cheese but to
> me it is lip smacking.

I'll get one hash brown, and one sausage biscuit, from McDonald's. I place the sausage on top of the hash brown and eat that. Then I eat the biscuit with as much strawberry jam as can be jammed on. It's a lovely repast that costs 2 bucks and change. My wife and I share a coffee so I'm not counting that.

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 9:20:36 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:27:50 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
> >John Kuthe wrote:
> >>
> >>Disgusting!! Nothing other than potatoes and oil should be in a french fry!
> >>Part of the reason I call them McCraps!
> >
> >Not to mention they are also an extruded pudding of instant spuds
> >that're frozen.
> snip
>
> Not this again. I suggest that you really go to McDonalds, buy some
> fries and examine them. No need to eat them, just examine them.
> Janet US

Evidently, some people can't tell an extrusion from a hole in the ground.

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 4:57:42 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
> >>prepared in this manner.
>
> You are "terribly mistaken"!
>
> In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
> watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
> slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.
>
Must be a local or possibly regional joint. If it was a national
chain they would be shipping in frozen fries from their commissary.
>
> >> Surely I can't be the only person that watches "How It's Made" or
> >> "Modern Marvels" or "Food Factory USA" or "Food Tech."
>
> You may be the only person that actually believes such bunk.
>
> nb