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On 1/18/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 9:20:36 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:27:50 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Disgusting!! Nothing other than potatoes and oil should be in a french fry!
>>>> Part of the reason I call them McCraps!
>>>
>>> Not to mention they are also an extruded pudding of instant spuds
>>> that're frozen.

>> snip
>>
>> Not this again. I suggest that you really go to McDonalds, buy some
>> fries and examine them. No need to eat them, just examine them.
>> Janet US

>
> Evidently, some people can't tell an extrusion from a hole in the ground.
>

Some "people" extrude INTO a hole in the ground...

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Burger King French Fries

Potatoes, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Modified Potato Starch, Rice Flour, Potato Dextrin, Salt, Leavening (Disodium Dihydrogen Pyrophosphate, Sodium Bicarbonate), Dextrose, Xanthan Gum, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate added to preserve natural color.



Wendy's French Fries

Potatoes, Vegetables Oil ( Soybeans Oil, Corn Oil, Cottonseed Oil, Soybeans Oil Hydrogenated, Flavors Natural Non Animal Source, Citric Acid, Preservative, Polydimethylsiloxane, Seasoned with, Contains One Or More Of The Following( Canola, Soybeans, Cottonseed, Sunflower, Corn ), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, To Protect Color, Cooked in, Vegetables Oil ( Soybeans Oil, Corn Oil, Cottonseed Oil, Soybeans Oil Hydrogenated, Flavors Natural Non Animal Source, Citric Acid, Preservative, Polydimethylsiloxane, Seasoned with, Salt Sea

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On 1/18/2017 1:27 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> A dozen
> egg omelet may seem like a lot but it's dinner for two twice. It can
> be reheated but I enjoy it cold the next day. My fries contain only
> potatoes, quality oil, salt, and pepper. And I use an ordinary well
> seasoned Farberware SS skillet, nothing sticks.


It sounds like a lot of eggs because it *is* a lot of eggs for two
people. I'm glad you enjoy cold leftover scrambled eggs; the very
thought makes me cringe.

I have certainly cooked homemade fries made from russet potatoes cooked
in a skillet rather than a deep fryer. It's been decades since I've
done it but they turned out quite nicely.

Jill
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On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 2:21:41 PM UTC-10, Steve Werts wrote:
> On 1/18/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 9:20:36 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:27:50 -0500, Brooklyn1
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> John Kuthe wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Disgusting!! Nothing other than potatoes and oil should be in a french fry!
> >>>> Part of the reason I call them McCraps!
> >>>
> >>> Not to mention they are also an extruded pudding of instant spuds
> >>> that're frozen.
> >> snip
> >>
> >> Not this again. I suggest that you really go to McDonalds, buy some
> >> fries and examine them. No need to eat them, just examine them.
> >> Janet US

> >
> > Evidently, some people can't tell an extrusion from a hole in the ground.
> >

> Some "people" extrude INTO a hole in the ground...
>
> ;-))


Corn hole?


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> On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 4:57:42 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
>>> > wrote:

>>
>>>> Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
>>>> prepared in this manner.

>>
>> You are "terribly mistaken"!
>>
>> In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
>> watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
>> slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.
>>

> Must be a local or possibly regional joint. If it was a national
> chain they would be shipping in frozen fries from their commissary.


http://www.fiveguys.com/Menu
Check out Five Guys. They even tell you on a given day what farm the
potatoes come from and you can see the cases of spuds. They are a step
up from a BK or McD burger of course, but no added chemicals.

Cajun Style Potatoes, Refined Peanut Oil, Salt, Cajun Seasoning: Blend
of Garlic, Salt, Onion, Paprika, Oregano, White Pepper, Red Pepper, Spice

Five Guys Style Potatoes, Refined Peanut Oil, Salt

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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
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>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 12:51:41 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> They probably need all those ingredients because they are trucked in from
>> distribution centers, not made on site.
>>
>> N.
>>
>>

>Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally the voice of reason.


Their French fries have to be huge science projects because the fries
come from distribution centers? Quoi?

>Unless I'm terribly mistaken


You definitely are.
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:40:52 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 12:51:41 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>
>>> They probably need all those ingredients because they are trucked in from
>>> distribution centers, not made on site.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>>>

>>Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally the voice of reason.
>>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
>>prepared in this manner. Micky D's is doing nothing different
>>from any of the hamburger fast food establishments. Surely I
>>can't be the only person that watches "How It's Made" or
>>"Modern Marvels" or "Food Factory USA" or "Food Tech."

>
>What a country you live in.


I wonder why their ingredient list for French fries is so much longer
than the Australian one. Are Australian food laws stricter? Are
Americans used to the taste of chemically altered food? I have no
idea.
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On 18 Jan 2017 22:57:39 GMT, notbob > wrote:

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>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>
>>>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
>>>prepared in this manner.

>
>You are "terribly mistaken"!
>
>In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
>watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
>slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.


There you go! Even a fast food chain can do it.
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:11:16 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 4:57:42 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:

>>
>> >>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
>> >>prepared in this manner.

>>
>> You are "terribly mistaken"!
>>
>> In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
>> watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
>> slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.
>>

>Must be a local or possibly regional joint. If it was a national
>chain they would be shipping in frozen fries from their commissary.


But why would those fries have to be science projects?


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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:57:11 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>> They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>they are pretty compared to real fries.

>
>There's no comparison whatsoever. It's like comparing instant with
>real coffee.


I notice that lots of Australians prefer instant coffee over real
coffee. Is that because they're really slightly daring tea drinkers?
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> In & Out is an incredibly overrated chain


You're a fat **** who'd eat week old dumpster fare, drop DEAD!
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On 1/18/2017 5:51 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 2:21:41 PM UTC-10, Steve Werts wrote:
>> On 1/18/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 9:20:36 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:27:50 -0500, Brooklyn1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disgusting!! Nothing other than potatoes and oil should be in a french fry!
>>>>>> Part of the reason I call them McCraps!
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention they are also an extruded pudding of instant spuds
>>>>> that're frozen.
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> Not this again. I suggest that you really go to McDonalds, buy some
>>>> fries and examine them. No need to eat them, just examine them.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Evidently, some people can't tell an extrusion from a hole in the ground.
>>>

>> Some "people" extrude INTO a hole in the ground...
>>
>> ;-))

>
> Corn hole?
>


Lol.

Latrine by any other name....
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> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:43:13 -0400, wrote:
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> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...s-in-mcdonalds
> > > -french-fries.html
> > >
> > > I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad
> > > I don't

> >
> > I always knew they were not spuds cut up and fried but I did not
> > realise they were basically walking chemicals

>
> Gimme a ****ing break. I stopped reading after they claimed "nerve-
> and brain-toxin monosodium glutamate (MSG).". And no, MSG can not be
> labeled as "natural flavor".
>
> Some of you people are just way too gullible.
>
> -sw


Exactly. This was pure sensationalist crap

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gregz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Sqwertz > wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:37:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/17/2017 9:48 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:43:13 -0400, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia"

> > >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>

>
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...-mcdonalds-fre
> nch-fries.html >>>>> >>>>> I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having
> read that I am very glad I don't >>>>
> >>>> I always knew they were not spuds cut up and fried but I did not
> >>>> realise they were basically walking chemicals
> >>>
> >>> Gimme a ****ing break. I stopped reading after they claimed

> "nerve- >>> and brain-toxin monosodium glutamate (MSG).". And no,
> MSG can not be >>> labeled as "natural flavor".
> >>>
> >>> Some of you people are just way too gullible.
> >>
> >> It is not a flavoring but a flavor enhancer and it is considered
> >> natural. Probably the most controversial ingredients around,

> deserved >> or not.
> >
> > Federal law prohibits MSG being included on ingredient statements as
> > "natural flavor".
> >
> > Yes, controversial, unproven, but I've never heard of it being a
> > "brain-toxin". It probably does clean floors, though.
> >
> > -sw

>
> Certain family members get headaches from MSG.
>
> Greg


Greg, there have been hundreds of true scientic studies on this. The
results are that MSG isnt the issue. It's the other items in asian
foods the people are reacting to in general. MSG breaks down to salt
and the amino acid Glutimate. (you will die if you do not ingest enough
of both)

It all started from a web rumor based on a 1960's report of a person
who they now think was allergic to shellfish. They then injected mice
under the skin with MSG in massive does and yes the mice had problems.
Step back and think. For a time a 'cure' for heroin issues on the
street was belived to be injecting milk. It left softball sized holes
in the muscles. Obviously safe to drink, it is not an injectable
substance.

If you say you have family with MSG issues, post haste refuse to give
them any foods with mushrooms as that's a high natural MSG food item.
If they genuinely react to MSG, then they will react to mushrooms.



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> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:56:14 -0000 (UTC), gregz >
> wrote:
>
> >Sqwertz > wrote:
> >> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:37:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 1/17/2017 9:48 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:43:13 -0400, wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia"

> > >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>

>
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...-mcdonalds-fre
> nch-fries.html >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having
> read that I am very glad I don't >>>>>
> >>>>> I always knew they were not spuds cut up and fried but I did not
> >>>>> realise they were basically walking chemicals
> >>>>
> >>>> Gimme a ****ing break. I stopped reading after they claimed

> "nerve- >>>> and brain-toxin monosodium glutamate (MSG).". And no,
> MSG can not be >>>> labeled as "natural flavor".
> >>>>
> >>>> Some of you people are just way too gullible.
> >>>
> >>> It is not a flavoring but a flavor enhancer and it is considered
> >>> natural. Probably the most controversial ingredients around,

> deserved >>> or not.
> >>
> >> Federal law prohibits MSG being included on ingredient statements

> as >> "natural flavor".
> >>
> >> Yes, controversial, unproven, but I've never heard of it being a
> >> "brain-toxin". It probably does clean floors, though.
> >>
> >> -sw

> >
> > Certain family members get headaches from MSG.
> >
> > Greg

>
> They'd get the same headache by overdosing on ordinary table salt. MSG
> is six times more efficient than NACL at enhancing food flavor
> therefore by adding six times less MSG than NACL to food one ingests
> 60% less sodium. The reason for Chinese Restaurant Syndrome was
> because Chinese cooks added way too much ordinary table salt but very
> little MSG, simply because MSG costs a lot more than table salt. One
> can suffer the same Chinese Restaurant Syndrome headache by consuming
> an entire family size bag of potato chips in one sitting.
> When cooking, especially soups and stews I add a pinch of MSG and
> entirely omit the salt, I get the same flavor enhancement with far
> less sodium. I keep a salt shaker filled with half MSG and half raw
> rice, I use that for salting my food... the rice prevents clumping but
> also prevents dispensing too much MSG.


You were doing ok until you embellished it. MSG is cheaper than salt
unless you get it in tiny jars.

You are only right in that it has less sodium than pure salt and can
indeed, be used effectively in reasonable amounts to replace salt and
reduce sodium intake. The reduction is about 40%.

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> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:38:32 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:
>
> > On 1/18/2017 12:46 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> >> They'd get the same headache by overdosing on ordinary table salt.

> MSG >> is six times more efficient than NACL at enhancing food flavor
> >> therefore by adding six times less MSG than NACL to food one

> ingests >> 60% less sodium.
> >
> > Interesting mathematics...

>
> While I shun the use of grammatically, scientifically, and
> mathematically incorrect phrases and calculations such as "X has six
> times less Z than Y" or "60% less" (*), MSG does have only 1/3rd the
> sodium content of table salt.
>
> So if you only use 1/6 as much MSG as salt (I think he made up that
> figure, but let's use it as an example) by weight, you're only using
> 1/18th the amount of sodium as you would when using table salt for the
> same effect
>
> How he gets "60% less", well, who knows. That figure comes from the
> same place he gets all his other facts - from his ass.
>
> (*) The presence of something (sodium in this case) indicates a
> positive number. When you multiply positive numbers you cannot end up
> with "less" of anything. Therefore the phrases are completely
> meaningless and mathematically impossible.
>
> -sw


The overall reduction on average when cooking with MSG is 40%. Thats
because you pair it with less salt so it works out that way.


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On 2017-01-18 6:06 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-01-18 12:45 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> McD's fries are good. Wendy's a bit better. They probably include lots
>>> of crap too. Eat them rarely (if you like them) and don't worry
>>> about the ingredients.
>>>

>>
>> You are entitled to your opinion, but mine is that McDonald's fries are
>> pretty bad. IMO they rank down there with the frozen fries heated up in
>> the oven type. They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>> they are pretty compared to real fries.

>
> Like most people these days Gary has obviously never eaten real
> fries... since Gary lives on fast food odds are he has never once in
> his adult life eaten a potato that hasn't been frozen/dehy or from a
> can of soup.
>

I sometimes wonder about him being an adult.

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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:09:15 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2017-01-18 6:06 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-01-18 12:45 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> McD's fries are good. Wendy's a bit better. They probably include lots
>>>> of crap too. Eat them rarely (if you like them) and don't worry
>>>> about the ingredients.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are entitled to your opinion, but mine is that McDonald's fries are
>>> pretty bad. IMO they rank down there with the frozen fries heated up in
>>> the oven type. They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>> they are pretty compared to real fries.

>>
>> Like most people these days Gary has obviously never eaten real
>> fries... since Gary lives on fast food odds are he has never once in
>> his adult life eaten a potato that hasn't been frozen/dehy or from a
>> can of soup.
>>

>I sometimes wonder about him being an adult.


It would explain a lot if he wasn't an adult.
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On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 6:59:28 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 12:51:41 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
> >>
> >> They probably need all those ingredients because they are trucked in from
> >> distribution centers, not made on site.
> >>
> >> N.
> >>
> >>

> >Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally the voice of reason.

>
> Their French fries have to be huge science projects because the fries
> come from distribution centers? Quoi?
>
> >Unless I'm terribly mistaken

>
> You definitely are.
>
>

Nope, you haven't a clue what happens here.



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On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 7:05:50 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
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> On 18 Jan 2017 22:57:39 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >
> >In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
> >watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
> >slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.

>
> There you go! Even a fast food chain can do it.>
>

It's a local/regional chain.

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On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 7:06:36 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:11:16 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 4:57:42 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
> >> >>prepared in this manner.
> >>
> >> You are "terribly mistaken"!
> >>
> >> In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
> >> watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
> >> slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.
> >>

> >Must be a local or possibly regional joint. If it was a national
> >chain they would be shipping in frozen fries from their commissary.

>
> But why would those fries have to be science projects?
>
>

Are you really this clueless?

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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:42:26 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 7:06:36 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:11:16 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 4:57:42 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
>> >> >>prepared in this manner.
>> >>
>> >> You are "terribly mistaken"!
>> >>
>> >> In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
>> >> watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
>> >> slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.
>> >>
>> >Must be a local or possibly regional joint. If it was a national
>> >chain they would be shipping in frozen fries from their commissary.

>>
>> But why would those fries have to be science projects?
>>
>>

>Are you really this clueless?


Can you explain it to me? I understand potato, oil, salt and that
they're frozen. How do you go from there to that science project that
McDonalds themselves say their fries are?
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:41:02 -0800 (PST), "
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>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 7:05:50 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On 18 Jan 2017 22:57:39 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
>> >watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
>> >slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.

>>
>> There you go! Even a fast food chain can do it.>
>>

>It's a local/regional chain.


So? As long as you keep them frozen they can go anywhere.
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:39:56 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 6:59:28 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 12:51:41 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> They probably need all those ingredients because they are trucked in from
>> >> distribution centers, not made on site.
>> >>
>> >> N.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally the voice of reason.

>>
>> Their French fries have to be huge science projects because the fries
>> come from distribution centers? Quoi?
>>
>> >Unless I'm terribly mistaken

>>
>> You definitely are.
>>
>>

>Nope, you haven't a clue what happens here.


What happens there then?


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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:09:07 +1100, Bruce >
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>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:57:11 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>> They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>>they are pretty compared to real fries.

>>
>>There's no comparison whatsoever. It's like comparing instant with
>>real coffee.

>
>I notice that lots of Australians prefer instant coffee over real
>coffee. Is that because they're really slightly daring tea drinkers?


I don't know if it is true that they prefer instant. Many buy instant
out of laziness/cheapness/not caring enough about it.

I had a win recently, became friends with a guy who roasts arguably
the best beans in Tasmania. Now I can get my beans direct from him.
He'll even deliver them to me here out in woop-woop. Surprised at the
scale of his operation, they sell 3 or4 thousand kilos of beans per
week.
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>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:40:52 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 12:51:41 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They probably need all those ingredients because they are trucked in from
>>>> distribution centers, not made on site.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally the voice of reason.
>>>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
>>>prepared in this manner. Micky D's is doing nothing different
>>>from any of the hamburger fast food establishments. Surely I
>>>can't be the only person that watches "How It's Made" or
>>>"Modern Marvels" or "Food Factory USA" or "Food Tech."

>>
>>What a country you live in.

>
>I wonder why their ingredient list for French fries is so much longer
>than the Australian one. Are Australian food laws stricter?


Yes.

> Are
>Americans used to the taste of chemically altered food? I have no
>idea.


I dunno, but we can at least go to a fish and chip shop and get proper
chips, not these lame 'fries'.
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:06:04 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:43:13 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...s-in-mcdonalds
>> > > -french-fries.html
>> > >
>> > > I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad
>> > > I don't
>> >
>> > I always knew they were not spuds cut up and fried but I did not
>> > realise they were basically walking chemicals

>>
>> Gimme a ****ing break. I stopped reading after they claimed "nerve-
>> and brain-toxin monosodium glutamate (MSG).". And no, MSG can not be
>> labeled as "natural flavor".
>>
>> Some of you people are just way too gullible.
>>
>> -sw

>
>Exactly. This was pure sensationalist crap


Here's some information from McDonalds. Ingredients of their fries in
various English speaking countries.

UK:
Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Sunflower, Rapeseed), Dextrose (predominantly
added at beginning of the potato season).
Prepared in the restaurants using a non-hydrogenated vegetable oil.
Salt is added after cooking.

Australia:
Potatoes, Canola Oil (Antioxidant 307) Dextrose, Mineral Salt (450),
Antifoam (Secondary fatty alcohol, ethoxylated and propoxylated)

Canada:
Potatoes, Canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, safflower oil, natural
flavour, dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate, citric acid,
dimethylpolysiloxane, vegetable oil, salt, silicoaluminate , potassium
iodide

US:
Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil,
Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk
Derivatives]*, Citric Acid), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate
(Maintain Color), Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn
Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid
added to preserve freshness), Dimethylpolysiloxane.

If I was an American, I'd demand that McDonalds treat me as wel as
they treat the British.
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:52:36 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:00:59 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:40:52 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:30:30 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 12:51:41 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> They probably need all those ingredients because they are trucked in from
>>>>> distribution centers, not made on site.
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally the voice of reason.
>>>>Unless I'm terribly mistaken ALL fast food joint fries are
>>>>prepared in this manner. Micky D's is doing nothing different
>>>>from any of the hamburger fast food establishments. Surely I
>>>>can't be the only person that watches "How It's Made" or
>>>>"Modern Marvels" or "Food Factory USA" or "Food Tech."
>>>
>>>What a country you live in.

>>
>>I wonder why their ingredient list for French fries is so much longer
>>than the Australian one. Are Australian food laws stricter?

>
>Yes.
>
>> Are
>>Americans used to the taste of chemically altered food? I have no
>>idea.

>
>I dunno, but we can at least go to a fish and chip shop and get proper
>chips, not these lame 'fries'.


Yes, they're matchsticks.
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:47:22 +1100, Bruce >
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>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:41:02 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 7:05:50 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On 18 Jan 2017 22:57:39 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
>>> >watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
>>> >slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.
>>>
>>> There you go! Even a fast food chain can do it.>
>>>

>>It's a local/regional chain.

>
>So? As long as you keep them frozen they can go anywhere.


Plus, how long does it take to transport fries? Only a day or two
across America. The very same thing happens in Australia, so why not
over there?


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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:52:33 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:09:07 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:57:11 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>>>they are pretty compared to real fries.
>>>
>>>There's no comparison whatsoever. It's like comparing instant with
>>>real coffee.

>>
>>I notice that lots of Australians prefer instant coffee over real
>>coffee. Is that because they're really slightly daring tea drinkers?

>
>I don't know if it is true that they prefer instant. Many buy instant
>out of laziness/cheapness/not caring enough about it.


We had several people over for the holidays. They were offered a
choice between instant and real coffee. They obviously didn't have to
buy or make it themselves. Quite a few chose instant. I wouldn't even
have thought of offering that.

>I had a win recently, became friends with a guy who roasts arguably
>the best beans in Tasmania. Now I can get my beans direct from him.
>He'll even deliver them to me here out in woop-woop. Surprised at the
>scale of his operation, they sell 3 or4 thousand kilos of beans per
>week.


That sounds very good.
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>they treat the British.


The FDA says no to that, they have to defend their corporate masters
after all.
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:17:05 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:47:22 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:41:02 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 7:05:50 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 18 Jan 2017 22:57:39 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >In n' Out Burgers makes their fries from whole potatoes. You can
>>>> >watch a hired drone running whole potatoes through a French-fry
>>>> >slicer, while in In n' Out's drive-thru line.
>>>>
>>>> There you go! Even a fast food chain can do it.>
>>>>
>>>It's a local/regional chain.

>>
>>So? As long as you keep them frozen they can go anywhere.

>
>Plus, how long does it take to transport fries? Only a day or two
>across America. The very same thing happens in Australia, so why not
>over there?


I don't know either, but I asked itsjoannotjoann. She says she knows.
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:19:30 +1100, Bruce >
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>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:52:33 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:09:07 +1100, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:57:11 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>>>>they are pretty compared to real fries.
>>>>
>>>>There's no comparison whatsoever. It's like comparing instant with
>>>>real coffee.
>>>
>>>I notice that lots of Australians prefer instant coffee over real
>>>coffee. Is that because they're really slightly daring tea drinkers?

>>
>>I don't know if it is true that they prefer instant. Many buy instant
>>out of laziness/cheapness/not caring enough about it.

>
>We had several people over for the holidays. They were offered a
>choice between instant and real coffee. They obviously didn't have to
>buy or make it themselves. Quite a few chose instant. I wouldn't even
>have thought of offering that.


Tell them from me they're crazy

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On 2017-01-18 11:17 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:47:22 +1100, Bruce >


>>
>> So? As long as you keep them frozen they can go anywhere.

>
> Plus, how long does it take to transport fries? Only a day or two
> across America. The very same thing happens in Australia, so why not
> over there?
>

I can understand that freezing them ensures a greater degree of
consistency, and McDonalds is famous for being consistent. Potatoes are
a seasonal crop. They are harvested by ripping up the roots and
stripping the spuds. Then they have to be stored, and the quality
changes. They have what they think is the perfect potato for their
operation and the best way ensure a consistent product is to freeze them.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:22:07 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:19:30 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:52:33 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:09:07 +1100, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:57:11 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>>>>>they are pretty compared to real fries.
>>>>>
>>>>>There's no comparison whatsoever. It's like comparing instant with
>>>>>real coffee.
>>>>
>>>>I notice that lots of Australians prefer instant coffee over real
>>>>coffee. Is that because they're really slightly daring tea drinkers?
>>>
>>>I don't know if it is true that they prefer instant. Many buy instant
>>>out of laziness/cheapness/not caring enough about it.

>>
>>We had several people over for the holidays. They were offered a
>>choice between instant and real coffee. They obviously didn't have to
>>buy or make it themselves. Quite a few chose instant. I wouldn't even
>>have thought of offering that.

>
>Tell them from me they're crazy


I will
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:26:10 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2017-01-18 11:17 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:47:22 +1100, Bruce >

>
>>>
>>> So? As long as you keep them frozen they can go anywhere.

>>
>> Plus, how long does it take to transport fries? Only a day or two
>> across America. The very same thing happens in Australia, so why not
>> over there?
>>

>I can understand that freezing them ensures a greater degree of
>consistency, and McDonalds is famous for being consistent. Potatoes are
>a seasonal crop. They are harvested by ripping up the roots and
>stripping the spuds. Then they have to be stored, and the quality
>changes. They have what they think is the perfect potato for their
>operation and the best way ensure a consistent product is to freeze them.


Yes, I did mean frozen chips or fries.
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> "Bruce" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:03:09 -0600, Sqwertz >
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>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:04:42 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
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>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:30:12 -0800, The New Other Guy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...nch-fries.html
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad I
>>>>>don't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>TOTALLY fake and scare-mongering.
>>>
>>> Never ceases to amuse me how defensive some people can get over a
>>> faceless corporation that has the gall to describe their business as
>>> a 'restaurant' and sells complete shit to hapless consumers

>>
>>That doesn't justify another entity launching baseless smear campaigns
>>preying on gullible people with utter bullshit just to gain page hits
>>and advertising $$$.
>>
>>I'm hardly a McDonalds sympathizer. I would defend Trump and Hillary
>>when somebody tries to impress me with pure bullshit.

>
> Ok, let's ask McDonalds themselves:
> <nutrition.mcdonalds.com/usnutritionexchange/ingredientslist.pdf>
>
> FRENCH FRIES:
> Ingredients: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil,
> Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk
> Derivatives]*, Citric Acid
> [Preservative]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (Maintain Color),
> Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil,
> Hydrogenated Soybean
> Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid added to preserve freshness),
> Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
> *
> CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK.
> *Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as
> starting ingredients.
>
> =====
>
> errr I think I will stick to cutting up a potato and frying it myself)


I love McD's fries, I'm still alive. LOL

Cheri

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> I'll keep eating the occasional McD's fries.
> Wendy's fries are good too, with lots of salt and pepper.




Me too.

Cheri
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> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
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>>On 2017-01-18 12:45 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> McD's fries are good. Wendy's a bit better. They probably include lots
>>> of crap too. Eat them rarely (if you like them) and don't worry
>>> about the ingredients.
>>>

>>
>>You are entitled to your opinion, but mine is that McDonald's fries are
>>pretty bad. IMO they rank down there with the frozen fries heated up in
>>the oven type. They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>they are pretty compared to real fries.

>
> Like most people these days Gary has obviously never eaten real
> fries... since Gary lives on fast food odds are he has never once in
> his adult life eaten a potato that hasn't been frozen/dehy or from a
> can of soup.




Or the people responding don't have a good McDonald's, the fries I get at
mine occasionally are always good, can't speak for other McD's.

Cheri

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