"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:40:05 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>>
>>I wonder what her credentials actually mean. Yeah, she's got a PhD.
>>It could be in underwater basketweaving.
>>
>>Let's see. She lists
>>DNM, which appears to be Doctor of Natural Medicine, or perhaps Doctor
>>of Naturopathic Medicine.
>>RNCP, which is Registered Nutritional Consulting Practitioner
>>ROHP, which is Registered Orthomolecular Health Practitioner
>>
>>I think you can get those credentials over the internet.
>>
>>I'm a little curious about what "orthomolecular health" is, but
>>it probably would just make me angry if I found out about it.
>>Still, better to know than not know. Yep, I was right:
>><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine>
>>You can cure bipolar disorder (or snakebite) with vitamins.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>===================
>>
>>Actually the list that Bruce posted was enough for me.
>
> It pretty much confirmed the list in your link.
> =======
>
> I didn't go through it with a fine toothcomb but it looked like something
> I wouldn't want.
>
> Like I said ... a potato and a knife is a good thing

And a drive thru window at McD's is a good thing once in awhile too. Love
the food at the one near me, but only go there about once a year now.

Cheri

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:16:48 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
>> I'll keep eating the occasional McD's fries.
>> Wendy's fries are good too, with lots of salt and pepper.
>
>
>
>Me too.

You've made your point a few times now, you know. But let me help:

CHERI LOVES MCDONALDS FRIES! SHE DOESN'T MIND THAT THEY'RE FULL OF
CRAP. SHE LOVES CRAP.

You're welcome

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:16:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>I love McD's fries, I'm still alive. LOL

With diabetes.

On 1/18/2017 9:22 PM, Je�us wrote:
> Tell them from me they're crazy


Go kill some more rabbits, you filthy WOG!

On 1/18/2017 9:19 PM, Bruce wrote:
> We had several people over for the holidays. They were offered a
> choice between instant and real coffee.


How many did you poison and render?

On 1/18/2017 9:13 PM, Bruce wrote:

> If I was an American, I'd demand


No mate, we would KILL you dead!

On 1/18/2017 8:52 PM, Je�us wrote:
> I had a win recently

Zit finally popped?

On 1/18/2017 8:46 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> Are you really this clueless?
> Can you explain it to me?

Clueless + Clueless = Clueless squared!

On 1/18/2017 8:11 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> AND also adding salt.
>
> -sw

You are so ****ing fat it's FUGLY!

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:19:23 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:55:38 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2017-01-18 12:45 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> McD's fries are good. Wendy's a bit better. They probably include lots
>>>> of crap too. Eat them rarely (if you like them) and don't worry
>>>> about the ingredients.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You are entitled to your opinion, but mine is that McDonald's fries are
>>>pretty bad. IMO they rank down there with the frozen fries heated up in
>>>the oven type. They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>>they are pretty compared to real fries.
>>
>> Like most people these days Gary has obviously never eaten real
>> fries... since Gary lives on fast food odds are he has never once in
>> his adult life eaten a potato that hasn't been frozen/dehy or from a
>> can of soup.
>
>
>
>Or the people responding don't have a good McDonald's, the fries I get at
>mine occasionally are always good, can't speak for other McD's.
>
>Cheri

well, of course, there is the right way to order them. You ask for
fries without salt. They then have to cook an order for you. You get
them straight from the fryer, sizzling hot. If you need salt, they
have those little paper packets available around the straws, catsup,
etc.
Janet US

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:16:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>I love McD's fries, I'm still alive. LOL
>
> With diabetes.



So? That had nothing to do with it, or are you just ignorant.

Cheri

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:36:57 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:16:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I love McD's fries, I'm still alive. LOL
>>
>> With diabetes.
>
>
>
>So? That had nothing to do with it, or are you just ignorant.

Who knows what lighter fluid does to the body.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:37:42 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 2:44:48 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Every Thursday I pick up two breakfast sandwiches and have tea with a
>> friend at work. Being semi-retired a couple of days I get home at noon.
>> One of the days I often stop at McDs for a burger for my wife and
>> myself. Gourmet? No, but quick and easy.
>>
>>
>I don't eat at McDonald's but a couple times a year but their
>sausage/egg McMuffin with a cup of coffee is my favorite
>breakfast sandwich. It's just a sausage patty plopped on
>an English muffin with an egg and a slice of cheese but to
>me it is lip smacking.

my favorite a couple of times a year is the fish sandwich.
Janet US

====

Is it McD's that sells 'filet of fish'?



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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:03:09 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:04:42 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:30:12 -0800, The New Other Guy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...nch-fries.html
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad I
>>>>>don't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>TOTALLY fake and scare-mongering.
>>>
>>> Never ceases to amuse me how defensive some people can get over a
>>> faceless corporation that has the gall to describe their business as
>>> a 'restaurant' and sells complete shit to hapless consumers
>>
>>That doesn't justify another entity launching baseless smear campaigns
>>preying on gullible people with utter bullshit just to gain page hits
>>and advertising $$$.
>>
>>I'm hardly a McDonalds sympathizer. I would defend Trump and Hillary
>>when somebody tries to impress me with pure bullshit.
>
> Ok, let's ask McDonalds themselves:
> <nutrition.mcdonalds.com/usnutritionexchange/ingredientslist.pdf>
>
> FRENCH FRIES:
> Ingredients: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil,
> Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk
> Derivatives]*, Citric Acid
> [Preservative]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (Maintain Color),
> Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil,
> Hydrogenated Soybean
> Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid added to preserve freshness),
> Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
> *
> CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK.
> *Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as
> starting ingredients.
>
> =====
>
> errr I think I will stick to cutting up a potato and frying it myself)

I love McD's fries, I'm still alive. LOL

Cheri

==============

I am very pleased to hear it))))



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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:06:04 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:43:13 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...s-in-mcdonalds
>> > > -french-fries.html
>> > >
>> > > I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad
>> > > I don't
>> >
>> > I always knew they were not spuds cut up and fried but I did not
>> > realise they were basically walking chemicals
>>
>> Gimme a ****ing break. I stopped reading after they claimed "nerve-
>> and brain-toxin monosodium glutamate (MSG).". And no, MSG can not be
>> labeled as "natural flavor".
>>
>> Some of you people are just way too gullible.
>>
>> -sw
>
>Exactly. This was pure sensationalist crap

Here's some information from McDonalds. Ingredients of their fries in
various English speaking countries.

UK:
Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Sunflower, Rapeseed), Dextrose (predominantly
added at beginning of the potato season).
Prepared in the restaurants using a non-hydrogenated vegetable oil.
Salt is added after cooking.

Australia:
Potatoes, Canola Oil (Antioxidant 307) Dextrose, Mineral Salt (450),
Antifoam (Secondary fatty alcohol, ethoxylated and propoxylated)

Canada:
Potatoes, Canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, safflower oil, natural
flavour, dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate, citric acid,
dimethylpolysiloxane, vegetable oil, salt, silicoaluminate , potassium
iodide

US:
Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil,
Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk
Derivatives]*, Citric Acid), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate
(Maintain Color), Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn
Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid
added to preserve freshness), Dimethylpolysiloxane.

If I was an American, I'd demand that McDonalds treat me as wel as
they treat the British.

=============

Good grief! I wonder why there is such a difference in the same company
????



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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:40:05 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>>
>>I wonder what her credentials actually mean. Yeah, she's got a PhD.
>>It could be in underwater basketweaving.
>>
>>Let's see. She lists
>>DNM, which appears to be Doctor of Natural Medicine, or perhaps Doctor
>>of Naturopathic Medicine.
>>RNCP, which is Registered Nutritional Consulting Practitioner
>>ROHP, which is Registered Orthomolecular Health Practitioner
>>
>>I think you can get those credentials over the internet.
>>
>>I'm a little curious about what "orthomolecular health" is, but
>>it probably would just make me angry if I found out about it.
>>Still, better to know than not know. Yep, I was right:
>><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine>
>>You can cure bipolar disorder (or snakebite) with vitamins.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>===================
>>
>>Actually the list that Bruce posted was enough for me.
>
> It pretty much confirmed the list in your link.
> =======
>
> I didn't go through it with a fine toothcomb but it looked like something
> I wouldn't want.
>
> Like I said ... a potato and a knife is a good thing

And a drive thru window at McD's is a good thing once in awhile too. Love
the food at the one near me, but only go there about once a year now.

Cheri

==================

Good) I am sure all the things I eat are not totally healthy either

Just to say I didn't post that thing to be offensive and I am stunned at the
number of people who feel the need to defend it so aggressively

I prefer Janet US' response, so I will stick with that <g>





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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:38:58 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:06:04 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>>Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:43:13 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...s-in-mcdonalds
>>> > > -french-fries.html
>>> > >
>>> > > I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad
>>> > > I don't
>>> >
>>> > I always knew they were not spuds cut up and fried but I did not
>>> > realise they were basically walking chemicals
>>>
>>> Gimme a ****ing break. I stopped reading after they claimed "nerve-
>>> and brain-toxin monosodium glutamate (MSG).". And no, MSG can not be
>>> labeled as "natural flavor".
>>>
>>> Some of you people are just way too gullible.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>Exactly. This was pure sensationalist crap
>
>Here's some information from McDonalds. Ingredients of their fries in
>various English speaking countries.
>
>UK:
>Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Sunflower, Rapeseed), Dextrose (predominantly
>added at beginning of the potato season).
>Prepared in the restaurants using a non-hydrogenated vegetable oil.
>Salt is added after cooking.
>
>Australia:
>Potatoes, Canola Oil (Antioxidant 307) Dextrose, Mineral Salt (450),
>Antifoam (Secondary fatty alcohol, ethoxylated and propoxylated)
>
>Canada:
>Potatoes, Canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, safflower oil, natural
>flavour, dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate, citric acid,
>dimethylpolysiloxane, vegetable oil, salt, silicoaluminate , potassium
>iodide
>
>US:
>Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil,
>Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk
>Derivatives]*, Citric Acid), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate
>(Maintain Color), Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn
>Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid
>added to preserve freshness), Dimethylpolysiloxane.
>
>If I was an American, I'd demand that McDonalds treat me as wel as
>they treat the British.
>
>=============
>
>Good grief! I wonder why there is such a difference in the same company
>????

That's my question too.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:39:36 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Cheri" wrote in message news >
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:40:05 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>I wonder what her credentials actually mean. Yeah, she's got a PhD.
>>>It could be in underwater basketweaving.
>>>
>>>Let's see. She lists
>>>DNM, which appears to be Doctor of Natural Medicine, or perhaps Doctor
>>>of Naturopathic Medicine.
>>>RNCP, which is Registered Nutritional Consulting Practitioner
>>>ROHP, which is Registered Orthomolecular Health Practitioner
>>>
>>>I think you can get those credentials over the internet.
>>>
>>>I'm a little curious about what "orthomolecular health" is, but
>>>it probably would just make me angry if I found out about it.
>>>Still, better to know than not know. Yep, I was right:
>>><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine>
>>>You can cure bipolar disorder (or snakebite) with vitamins.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>>===================
>>>
>>>Actually the list that Bruce posted was enough for me.
>>
>> It pretty much confirmed the list in your link.
>> =======
>>
>> I didn't go through it with a fine toothcomb but it looked like something
>> I wouldn't want.
>>
>> Like I said ... a potato and a knife is a good thing
>
>And a drive thru window at McD's is a good thing once in awhile too. Love
>the food at the one near me, but only go there about once a year now.
>
>Cheri
>
>==================
>
>Good) I am sure all the things I eat are not totally healthy either
>
>Just to say I didn't post that thing to be offensive and I am stunned at the
>number of people who feel the need to defend it so aggressively

I'm sure many Americans took it as an attack on the US, although it
wasn't. So they went into their hysterical patriotic mode: "I just
love McDonalds fries! God bless McDonalds!"

On 1/19/2017 12:58 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>
> well, of course, there is the right way to order them. You ask for
> fries without salt. They then have to cook an order for you. You get
> them straight from the fryer, sizzling hot. If you need salt, they
> have those little paper packets available around the straws, catsup,
> etc.
> Janet US
>

Could not be bothered. The turnover is about two minutes, less at a
busy time. Right from the fryer they are too hot to eat anywat.

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 3:06:37 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:36:57 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> >"Jeßus" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:16:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I love McD's fries, I'm still alive. LOL
> >>
> >> With diabetes.
> >
> >
> >
> >So? That had nothing to do with it, or are you just ignorant.
>
> Who knows what lighter fluid does to the body.

Oh, I'm sure someone does. Some people will drink anything.

How much lighter fluid is left in the fries after cooking?
Nil, I'd bet.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 11:13:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:06:04 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:43:13 -0400, wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...s-in-mcdonalds
> >> > > -french-fries.html
> >> > >
> >> > > I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad
> >> > > I don't
> >> >
> >> > I always knew they were not spuds cut up and fried but I did not
> >> > realise they were basically walking chemicals
> >>
> >> Gimme a ****ing break. I stopped reading after they claimed "nerve-
> >> and brain-toxin monosodium glutamate (MSG).". And no, MSG can not be
> >> labeled as "natural flavor".
> >>
> >> Some of you people are just way too gullible.
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> >Exactly. This was pure sensationalist crap
>
> Here's some information from McDonalds. Ingredients of their fries in
> various English speaking countries.
>
> UK:
> Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Sunflower, Rapeseed), Dextrose (predominantly
> added at beginning of the potato season).
> Prepared in the restaurants using a non-hydrogenated vegetable oil.
> Salt is added after cooking.
>
> Australia:
> Potatoes, Canola Oil (Antioxidant 307) Dextrose, Mineral Salt (450),
> Antifoam (Secondary fatty alcohol, ethoxylated and propoxylated)
>
> Canada:
> Potatoes, Canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, safflower oil, natural
> flavour, dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate, citric acid,
> dimethylpolysiloxane, vegetable oil, salt, silicoaluminate , potassium
> iodide
>
> US:
> Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil,
> Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk
> Derivatives]*, Citric Acid), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate
> (Maintain Color), Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn
> Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid
> added to preserve freshness), Dimethylpolysiloxane.
>
> If I was an American, I'd demand that McDonalds treat me as wel as
> they treat the British.

Why are you making such a big deal out of this? You're not American,
and you don't eat McDonald's fries anyway. You're just looking for
trouble.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 11:39:45 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:40:05 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>I wonder what her credentials actually mean. Yeah, she's got a PhD.
> >>It could be in underwater basketweaving.
> >>
> >>Let's see. She lists
> >>DNM, which appears to be Doctor of Natural Medicine, or perhaps Doctor
> >>of Naturopathic Medicine.
> >>RNCP, which is Registered Nutritional Consulting Practitioner
> >>ROHP, which is Registered Orthomolecular Health Practitioner
> >>
> >>I think you can get those credentials over the internet.
> >>
> >>I'm a little curious about what "orthomolecular health" is, but
> >>it probably would just make me angry if I found out about it.
> >>Still, better to know than not know. Yep, I was right:
> >><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine>
> >>You can cure bipolar disorder (or snakebite) with vitamins.
> >>
> >>Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >>===================
> >>
> >>Actually the list that Bruce posted was enough for me.
> >
> > It pretty much confirmed the list in your link.
> > =======
> >
> > I didn't go through it with a fine toothcomb but it looked like something
> > I wouldn't want.
> >
> > Like I said ... a potato and a knife is a good thing
>
> And a drive thru window at McD's is a good thing once in awhile too. Love
> the food at the one near me, but only go there about once a year now.
>
> Cheri
>
> ==================
>
> Good) I am sure all the things I eat are not totally healthy either
>
> Just to say I didn't post that thing to be offensive and I am stunned at the
> number of people who feel the need to defend it so aggressively
>
> I prefer Janet US' response, so I will stick with that <g>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I ate at McDonald's today. It was no great shakes but it was cheap and I didn't have to spend time pondering over what to eat. What we have to fear is not chemicals with names that are unfamiliar to us. We should be more concerned with food spoilage and food poisoning. Chemicals with weird sounding names are responsible for less food being wasted and suppressing harmful microorganisms. These chemicals and sophisticated food processing and handling methods has made the foods we eat the safest it's ever been in the history of mankind. Yet, it seems, food phobias and lack of trust in our foods are at an all time high. Obviously it's because there's so much of it available at our fingertips. We have the luxury of taking food for granted. That's an arrogant attitude considering the multitudes of those hungry and starving.

On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 10:24:01 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 2:28:01 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...nch-fries.html
> >
> > I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad I don't
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Disgusting!! Nothing other than potatoes and oil should be in a french fry!
>
> Part of the reason I call them McCraps!
>
> John Kuthe...

Yes, you've told us dozens of times before you tiresome old queen.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I make pretty good chips (fries) if say so myself *strutt*
> They can keep their additions. My only additions are salt and malt vinegar
>
> *awaits the complaints*

No worries.
I love my homemade too. Russets are good - sliced into thick fries
with skins left on. Definitely should be deep-fried (or pan fried)
though. I've never had a good oven-cooked fry.

My additions are normally just salt and pepper.
And VERY heavy on the pepper. Next time I make some, I'll
post a pic just to show how much I add. More than most probably.

Thanks to you, Oph, I finally tried them with malt vinegar.
I do like those too. I still have almost a full bottle and
often forget that I have it. It got pushed back into the
pantry somewhere. I should look up some *other* recipes
to use it up.

AND, although good, I rarely use ketchup with fries.
S&P keeps me happy.
The fries with gravy (Canadian thing?) sounds worth trying.

dsi1 wrote:
>
> I'll get one hash brown, and one sausage biscuit, from McDonald's. I place the sausage on top of the hash brown and eat that. Then I eat the biscuit with as much strawberry jam as can be jammed on.

Sounds good but I'd maybe go just a bit different.
Maybe take half of the biscuit and top with sausage and hash brown
Then put the jam on the other half of biscuit for a "dessert" munch.

Also, I went to McD's for breakfast once and got 2 hash browns
and a plain sausage biscuit.
The hash browns were 2/$1.00 then. Still that price?

Anyway, in the bag they also put in some grape jam. WTH?
So I assumed that was meant for the sausage biscuit.
I tried it and loved the combination. To this day, I will
occasionally put a bit of grape jam on a sausage toast
at home.

Gee thanks, McD! :-D

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I make pretty good chips (fries) if say so myself *strutt*
> They can keep their additions. My only additions are salt and malt
> vinegar
>
> *awaits the complaints*

No worries.
I love my homemade too. Russets are good - sliced into thick fries
with skins left on. Definitely should be deep-fried (or pan fried)
though. I've never had a good oven-cooked fry.

My additions are normally just salt and pepper.
And VERY heavy on the pepper. Next time I make some, I'll
post a pic just to show how much I add. More than most probably.

Thanks to you, Oph, I finally tried them with malt vinegar.
I do like those too. I still have almost a full bottle and
often forget that I have it. It got pushed back into the
pantry somewhere. I should look up some *other* recipes
to use it up.

AND, although good, I rarely use ketchup with fries.
S&P keeps me happy.
The fries with gravy (Canadian thing?) sounds worth trying.

============

I have never tried an oven cooked chip (fry) nor have I ever used pepper. D
uses ketchup but vinegar and salt for me)

I don't fancy the gravy though, I would expect it to make them soggy. But
that is just me)



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"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 11:39:45 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:40:05 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>I wonder what her credentials actually mean. Yeah, she's got a PhD.
> >>It could be in underwater basketweaving.
> >>
> >>Let's see. She lists
> >>DNM, which appears to be Doctor of Natural Medicine, or perhaps Doctor
> >>of Naturopathic Medicine.
> >>RNCP, which is Registered Nutritional Consulting Practitioner
> >>ROHP, which is Registered Orthomolecular Health Practitioner
> >>
> >>I think you can get those credentials over the internet.
> >>
> >>I'm a little curious about what "orthomolecular health" is, but
> >>it probably would just make me angry if I found out about it.
> >>Still, better to know than not know. Yep, I was right:
> >><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine>
> >>You can cure bipolar disorder (or snakebite) with vitamins.
> >>
> >>Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >>===================
> >>
> >>Actually the list that Bruce posted was enough for me.
> >
> > It pretty much confirmed the list in your link.
> > =======
> >
> > I didn't go through it with a fine toothcomb but it looked like
> > something
> > I wouldn't want.
> >
> > Like I said ... a potato and a knife is a good thing
>
> And a drive thru window at McD's is a good thing once in awhile too. Love
> the food at the one near me, but only go there about once a year now.
>
> Cheri
>
> ==================
>
> Good) I am sure all the things I eat are not totally healthy either
>
> Just to say I didn't post that thing to be offensive and I am stunned at
> the
> number of people who feel the need to defend it so aggressively
>
> I prefer Janet US' response, so I will stick with that <g>
>
>
>
>
>
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I ate at McDonald's today. It was no great shakes but it was cheap and I
didn't have to spend time pondering over what to eat. What we have to fear
is not chemicals with names that are unfamiliar to us. We should be more
concerned with food spoilage and food poisoning. Chemicals with weird
sounding names are responsible for less food being wasted and suppressing
harmful microorganisms. These chemicals and sophisticated food processing
and handling methods has made the foods we eat the safest it's ever been in
the history of mankind. Yet, it seems, food phobias and lack of trust in our
foods are at an all time high. Obviously it's because there's so much of it
available at our fingertips. We have the luxury of taking food for granted.
That's an arrogant attitude considering the multitudes of those hungry and
starving.

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Yes


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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:32:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 11:13:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:06:04 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> >Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:43:13 -0400, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:27:52 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > http://www.care2.com/greenliving/sho...s-in-mcdonalds
>> >> > > -french-fries.html
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I don't eat Mcdonalds' stuff and having read that I am very glad
>> >> > > I don't
>> >> >
>> >> > I always knew they were not spuds cut up and fried but I did not
>> >> > realise they were basically walking chemicals
>> >>
>> >> Gimme a ****ing break. I stopped reading after they claimed "nerve-
>> >> and brain-toxin monosodium glutamate (MSG).". And no, MSG can not be
>> >> labeled as "natural flavor".
>> >>
>> >> Some of you people are just way too gullible.
>> >>
>> >> -sw
>> >
>> >Exactly. This was pure sensationalist crap
>>
>> Here's some information from McDonalds. Ingredients of their fries in
>> various English speaking countries.
>>
>> UK:
>> Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Sunflower, Rapeseed), Dextrose (predominantly
>> added at beginning of the potato season).
>> Prepared in the restaurants using a non-hydrogenated vegetable oil.
>> Salt is added after cooking.
>>
>> Australia:
>> Potatoes, Canola Oil (Antioxidant 307) Dextrose, Mineral Salt (450),
>> Antifoam (Secondary fatty alcohol, ethoxylated and propoxylated)
>>
>> Canada:
>> Potatoes, Canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, safflower oil, natural
>> flavour, dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate, citric acid,
>> dimethylpolysiloxane, vegetable oil, salt, silicoaluminate , potassium
>> iodide
>>
>> US:
>> Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil,
>> Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [Wheat and Milk
>> Derivatives]*, Citric Acid), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate
>> (Maintain Color), Salt. Prepared in Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Corn
>> Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil with TBHQ and Citric Acid
>> added to preserve freshness), Dimethylpolysiloxane.
>>
>> If I was an American, I'd demand that McDonalds treat me as wel as
>> they treat the British.
>
>Why are you making such a big deal out of this? You're not American,
>and you don't eat McDonald's fries anyway. You're just looking for
>trouble.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

amen. However, I bet the laws of each country determine just exactly
how information must be laid out. (I mean to say, it's all the same
ingredients, just presented differently for each country) Ophelia's
post was fine, it gave us something to discuss. Bruce,, I don't know,
He's so needy and . . .
Janet US

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:35:38 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:37:42 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 2:44:48 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> Every Thursday I pick up two breakfast sandwiches and have tea with a
>>> friend at work. Being semi-retired a couple of days I get home at noon.
>>> One of the days I often stop at McDs for a burger for my wife and
>>> myself. Gourmet? No, but quick and easy.
>>>
>>>
>>I don't eat at McDonald's but a couple times a year but their
>>sausage/egg McMuffin with a cup of coffee is my favorite
>>breakfast sandwich. It's just a sausage patty plopped on
>>an English muffin with an egg and a slice of cheese but to
>>me it is lip smacking.
>
>my favorite a couple of times a year is the fish sandwich.
>Janet US
>
>====
>
>Is it McD's that sells 'filet of fish'?

they all have one. I have to look at the posting in the store to know
what to call it. I just know that I have loved that fish sandwich
forever . The others don't taste the same and aren't the same piece
of fish
Janet US

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I don't fancy the gravy though, I would expect it to make them soggy. But
> that is just me)

Ketchup will do that too. The rare times I use it, I put it on the side
to dip into. I would do that with the gravy too...just put it on the
side. Never tried it (yet) but that's on my bucket list.

Same thing when I make nachos. The tortilla chips on the side. All the
yummy things that you scoop onto it are on the side.

My homemade "dinner nachos" on the plate consists of:
- pile of salty white corn chips
- the seasoned meat with cheese all cooked in
- medium hot salsa
- sour cream

You take a chip and scoop a little of the other 3 ingredients on it.
Every chip is crisp. Every bite is food from heaven. hehehhe

Ya know... I so love this meal but haven't made it in about
4 years now. Go figure. Need to make some soon. Good stuff.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:49:38 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:
snip
>
>I'm sure many Americans took it as an attack on the US, although it
>wasn't. So they went into their hysterical patriotic mode: "I just
>love McDonalds fries! God bless McDonalds!"

no. I saw no evidence of nationalism. Go watch tennis on the telly.
You can see the Australian Open during the daytime, I can't.
Janet US

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:35:38 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
> >Is it McD's that sells 'filet of fish'?
>
> they all have one. I have to look at the posting in the store to know
> what to call it. I just know that I have loved that fish sandwich
> forever . The others don't taste the same and aren't the same piece
> of fish

I saw a documentary about that once. I believe that at the time all
of McD's fish came from Alaskan waters.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> I bet the laws of each country determine just exactly
> how information must be laid out. (I mean to say, it's all the same
> ingredients, just presented differently for each country)

No doubt, that's true. USA evidently has more regulations about
preserving the food.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> How much lighter fluid is left in the fries after cooking?
> Nil, I'd bet.

I'm not even going to bother looking for previous quotes here.
Did someone say that lighter fluid is in Mcd's fries?

The lighter fluid is the best part, imo. The secret ingredient.

The "ingredient police" here are unbelievable but
fun to keep around for laughs.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:37:42 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>
>> I bet the laws of each country determine just exactly
>> how information must be laid out. (I mean to say, it's all the same
>> ingredients, just presented differently for each country)
>
>No doubt, that's true. USA evidently has more regulations about
>preserving the food.

Maybe about preserving food (really don't know) but I do know Europe
has far better disclosure about GMOs

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I don't fancy the gravy though, I would expect it to make them soggy. But
> that is just me)

Ketchup will do that too. The rare times I use it, I put it on the side
to dip into. I would do that with the gravy too...just put it on the
side. Never tried it (yet) but that's on my bucket list.

Same thing when I make nachos. The tortilla chips on the side. All the
yummy things that you scoop onto it are on the side.

My homemade "dinner nachos" on the plate consists of:
- pile of salty white corn chips
- the seasoned meat with cheese all cooked in
- medium hot salsa
- sour cream

You take a chip and scoop a little of the other 3 ingredients on it.
Every chip is crisp. Every bite is food from heaven. hehehhe

Ya know... I so love this meal but haven't made it in about
4 years now. Go figure. Need to make some soon. Good stuff.

===

Well it sounds as though your mouth is watering at the thought of it, so
maybe you ought to get preparing it again



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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:35:38 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:37:42 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 2:44:48 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> Every Thursday I pick up two breakfast sandwiches and have tea with a
>>> friend at work. Being semi-retired a couple of days I get home at noon.
>>> One of the days I often stop at McDs for a burger for my wife and
>>> myself. Gourmet? No, but quick and easy.
>>>
>>>
>>I don't eat at McDonald's but a couple times a year but their
>>sausage/egg McMuffin with a cup of coffee is my favorite
>>breakfast sandwich. It's just a sausage patty plopped on
>>an English muffin with an egg and a slice of cheese but to
>>me it is lip smacking.
>
>my favorite a couple of times a year is the fish sandwich.
>Janet US
>
>====
>
>Is it McD's that sells 'filet of fish'?

they all have one. I have to look at the posting in the store to know
what to call it. I just know that I have loved that fish sandwich
forever . The others don't taste the same and aren't the same piece
of fish
Janet US

==============

Okay! I have only ever been in one fast food place. A friend took me and I
ordered filet of fish. It was full of gunk( Maybe it was because I
wasn't expecting it but I couldn't eat it and have never been back.

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I'll get one hash brown, and one sausage biscuit, from McDonald's. I
>> place the sausage on top of the hash brown and eat that. Then I eat the
>> biscuit with as much strawberry jam as can be jammed on.
>
> Sounds good but I'd maybe go just a bit different.
> Maybe take half of the biscuit and top with sausage and hash brown
> Then put the jam on the other half of biscuit for a "dessert" munch.
>
> Also, I went to McD's for breakfast once and got 2 hash browns
> and a plain sausage biscuit.
> The hash browns were 2/$1.00 then. Still that price?
>
> Anyway, in the bag they also put in some grape jam. WTH?
> So I assumed that was meant for the sausage biscuit.
> I tried it and loved the combination. To this day, I will
> occasionally put a bit of grape jam on a sausage toast
> at home.
>
> Gee thanks, McD! :-D


They probably already had the jam in the sack to prepare for the *rush.*

Cheri

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:51:42 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:23:06 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
>
>>Jeßus wrote:
>>>Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> They may be better than some other fast food fries, but
>>>>they are pretty good compared to real fries.
>>>
>>>There's no comparison whatsoever. It's like comparing instant with
>>>real coffee.
>>
>>'Zactly. Last time I ate dehy potatoes I was cooking navy chow. I've
>>tried frozen fries from the market freezer section maybe three times,
>>they're awful. I ate McDs fries once, took 2-3 bites and tossed the
>>rest for the critters... I'd much rather a bag of chitata pips.
>
>yet you use dehydrated vegetables and say they are better.
>Janet US

Not potatoes. Yes, toasted dehy onions are wonderful, far superior to
those onion soup packets with all that salt and chems. Dehy 'shrooms
are better than fresh in many dishes, flavor is more potent, and
several varieties always in the pantry. Dehy soup greens are a big
boon, they don't go off so are always on hand. Dehy apples make
better pies than fresh. Are you going to tell us you don't use dehy
grapes? I keep several types of dried fruit on hand; grapes
(raisins), plums (prunes), apricots, peaches, pears, apples, dates
(I've been eating my dates all my adult life). All spices are
dehydrated. People have been preserving food by drying for thousands
of years, meats and vegetables. Nowadays most every food is available
freeze dried, better than fresh from the market... I read recently
that 90% of the US strawberry crop is freeze dried. Next you eat a
sandwich/taco remember that wheat/corn was dehydrated before milling.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:43:32 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:35:38 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:37:42 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 2:44:48 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Every Thursday I pick up two breakfast sandwiches and have tea with a
>>>> friend at work. Being semi-retired a couple of days I get home at noon.
>>>> One of the days I often stop at McDs for a burger for my wife and
>>>> myself. Gourmet? No, but quick and easy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I don't eat at McDonald's but a couple times a year but their
>>>sausage/egg McMuffin with a cup of coffee is my favorite
>>>breakfast sandwich. It's just a sausage patty plopped on
>>>an English muffin with an egg and a slice of cheese but to
>>>me it is lip smacking.
>>
>>my favorite a couple of times a year is the fish sandwich.
>>Janet US
>>
>>====
>>
>>Is it McD's that sells 'filet of fish'?
>
>they all have one. I have to look at the posting in the store to know
>what to call it. I just know that I have loved that fish sandwich
>forever . The others don't taste the same and aren't the same piece
>of fish
>Janet US
>
>==============
>
>Okay! I have only ever been in one fast food place. A friend took me and I
>ordered filet of fish. It was full of gunk( Maybe it was because I
>wasn't expecting it but I couldn't eat it and have never been back.

It should be a clean, white square of good firm fish that fits the
bun. It has a light breading and is deep fried. The sandwich has a
dab of tartar sauce and a small slice of cheese. All McDonalds
sandwiches have some sort of sauce on them. I'm thinking that all
fast-food joint sandwiches have a sauce. Tartar sauce is mayo mixed
with a sweet pickle relish and a lemon juice.. It's very popular with
seafood here in the States.

Janet US