On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
> > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> >
> > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really matter
> > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian, Chinese,
> > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> >
> > Heck, my parents lived on KÄ«lauea for two years. This was before I was
> > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time) were
> > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese woman
> > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on her
> > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down salt, it
> > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a native
> > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> >
> > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of the
> > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not as
> > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> >
> > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi pounder".
> > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want to
> > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure heard
> > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> around. LOL
>
> Cheri

You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have some cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people that came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item that's been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.

I don't surround myself with things Hawaiian although I did keep a ukulele and nose flute in my office. I like music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD2tq5Yjj1w

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-10, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> > constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
>
> I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> matter he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
> Chinese, or Japanese descent? Not to me.
>
> Heck, my parents lived on KÄ«lauea for two years. This was before I was
> born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time) were
> there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese woman
> who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on her
> patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down salt,
> it deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> native tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
>
> The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of the
> world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not
> as if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
>
> Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> pounder". Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something
> I want to eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside.
> They'd sure heard of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of
> Indiana. LOL
>
> Jill

I have lived on the mainland and know how things go down over there. I have even heard of Indiana. My brother lives in Indiana - he loves that state. In Hawaii, we embrace the cultures of others. People on the mainland are mostly ethnocentric i.e., they only think about themselves. It's quite clear to me that fear and mistrust of people from other places will lead to the downfall of the United States of America.

For dinner last night we had Swedish, Korean, and Japanese foods. We even had a Cincinnati style chili and Buffalo chicken wings. My step-mom made a beautiful spread. Dessert was a chocolate/hazelnut/whipped cream torte. My daughter had two pieces. She will make it some day and people will be dazzled and inspired.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...zMagwX7zBiwRei

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
> > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> >
> > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> > matter
> > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian, Chinese,
> > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> >
> > Heck, my parents lived on KÄ«lauea for two years. This was before I
> > was
> > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time) were
> > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese woman
> > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on her
> > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down salt,
> > it
> > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> > native
> > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> >
> > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of the
> > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not
> > as
> > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> >
> > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> > pounder".
> > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want to
> > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
> > heard
> > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> around. LOL
>
> Cheri

You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have some
cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people that
came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item that's
been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.


Did you actually see this particular pounder?

Cheri

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > news
> > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> > >
> > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> > > matter
> > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian, Chinese,
> > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> > >
> > > Heck, my parents lived on KÀžÃ‚«lauea for two years. This was before I
> > > was
> > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time) were
> > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese woman
> > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on her
> > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down salt,
> > > it
> > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> > > native
> > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> > >
> > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of the
> > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not
> > > as
> > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> > >
> > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> > > pounder".
> > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want to
> > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
> > > heard
> > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> >
> > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> > around. LOL
> >
> > Cheri
>
> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have some
> cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people that
> came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item that's
> been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
>
>
> Did you actually see this particular pounder?
>
> Cheri

They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be. OTOH, from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.

http://manuantiques.com/wp-content/u...IMG_3972-1.jpg

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:48:32 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> > news >> > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
>> > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
>> > >
>> > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
>> > > matter
>> > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian, Chinese,
>> > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
>> > >
>> > > Heck, my parents lived on KÄ«lauea for two years. This was before I
>> > > was
>> > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time) were
>> > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese woman
>> > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on her
>> > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down salt,
>> > > it
>> > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
>> > > native
>> > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
>> > >
>> > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of the
>> > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not
>> > > as
>> > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
>> > >
>> > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
>> > > pounder".
>> > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want to
>> > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
>> > > heard
>> > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
>> > >
>> > > Jill
>> >
>> >
>> > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
>> > around. LOL
>> >
>> > Cheri
>>
>> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have some
>> cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people that
>> came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item that's
>> been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
>>
>>
>> Did you actually see this particular pounder?
>>
>> Cheri
>
>They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be. OTOH, from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
>
>http://manuantiques.com/wp-content/u...IMG_3972-1.jpg

Where's the female counterpart?

On 1/31/2017 11:59 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:48:32 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
>>>>>> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
>>>>>
>>>>> I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
>>>>> matter
>>>>> he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian, Chinese,
>>>>> or Japanese descent? Not to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heck, my parents lived on KÄ«lauea for two years. This was before I
>>>>> was
>>>>> born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time) were
>>>>> there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese woman
>>>>> who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on her
>>>>> patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down salt,
>>>>> it
>>>>> deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
>>>>> native
>>>>> tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of the
>>>>> world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not
>>>>> as
>>>>> if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
>>>>> pounder".
>>>>> Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want to
>>>>> eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
>>>>> heard
>>>>> of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
>>>> around. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have some
>>> cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people that
>>> came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item that's
>>> been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you actually see this particular pounder?
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be. OTOH, from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
>>
>> http://manuantiques.com/wp-content/u...IMG_3972-1.jpg
>
> Where's the female counterpart?
>

That would be the papa kuiai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPl8xLWwW-o

On 2017-01-31 1:33 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might
> have some cultural significance to you if it was an important food
> for the people that came before you. My guess is that you have a food
> preparation item that's been in your family for a while that you
> treasure. Same thing.

Poppycock. There are some things that were traditional among my
ancestors, but it is because they were Europeans and most of them were
not well enough off to afford better. They likely ate a lot of gruel and
crappy root vegetables because that's all there was to eat.

Diets and food traditions change over time, hopefully for the better.
Italy is famous for pasta and tomato sauce, often spiced up with hot
peppers. Tomatoes were unheard of in Italy before the discovery of the
New World. Western Europe thrives on meat and potatoes, but potatoes
were another discovery from the New World.

On 1/31/2017 1:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-31 1:33 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might
>> have some cultural significance to you if it was an important food
>> for the people that came before you. My guess is that you have a food
>> preparation item that's been in your family for a while that you
>> treasure. Same thing.
>
> Poppycock. There are some things that were traditional among my
> ancestors, but it is because they were Europeans and most of them were
> not well enough off to afford better. They likely ate a lot of gruel and
> crappy root vegetables because that's all there was to eat.
>
> Diets and food traditions change over time, hopefully for the better.
> Italy is famous for pasta and tomato sauce, often spiced up with hot
> peppers. Tomatoes were unheard of in Italy before the discovery of the
> New World. Western Europe thrives on meat and potatoes, but potatoes
> were another discovery from the New World.
>

The difference is that the Hawaiians are not ashamed of where they came
from. There's a renewed interest in taro worldwide. This is a good thing.

http://tpr.org/post/poi-hawaiis-reci...ulture#stream/

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:59:27 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

>On 1/31/2017 11:59 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:48:32 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> news >>>>>> On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
>>>>>>> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
>>>>>> matter
>>>>>> he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian, Chinese,
>>>>>> or Japanese descent? Not to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heck, my parents lived on KÄ«lauea for two years. This was before I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time) were
>>>>>> there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese woman
>>>>>> who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on her
>>>>>> patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down salt,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
>>>>>> native
>>>>>> tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of the
>>>>>> world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
>>>>>> pounder".
>>>>>> Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want to
>>>>>> eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
>>>>>> heard
>>>>>> of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
>>>>> around. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have some
>>>> cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people that
>>>> came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item that's
>>>> been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you actually see this particular pounder?
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be. OTOH, from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
>>>
>>> http://manuantiques.com/wp-content/u...IMG_3972-1.jpg
>>
>> Where's the female counterpart?
>>
>
>That would be the papa kuiai.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPl8xLWwW-o

A wooden board?
http://manaai.com/pages/what-is-pai-ai

I've never eaten poi and after watching it being made I don't think I
ever will... it looks exactly what I once found in baby diapers...
isn't there a presentation that makes it more appealing? Are there
poi recipes, some way to cook it with other ingredients? Perhaps
there's a poi cookbook, I will search. Nothing I found looks
enticing:
http://www.cookinghawaiianstyle.com/...=detail&id=471
http://www.poico.com/artman/publish/article_67.php

On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 11:29:03 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:31:21 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
>
>>On 1/31/2017 1:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> Poppycock. There are some things that were traditional among my
>>> ancestors, but it is because they were Europeans and most of them were
>>> not well enough off to afford better. They likely ate a lot of gruel and
>>> crappy root vegetables because that's all there was to eat.
>>>
>>> Diets and food traditions change over time, hopefully for the better.
>>> Italy is famous for pasta and tomato sauce, often spiced up with hot
>>> peppers. Tomatoes were unheard of in Italy before the discovery of the
>>> New World. Western Europe thrives on meat and potatoes, but potatoes
>>> were another discovery from the New World.
>>>
>>
>>The difference is that the Hawaiians are not ashamed of where they came
>>from.
>
>Do I understand correctly that Hawaians are very, very, very, very,
>very, very, very, very, very special people?

Truth be told if not for what they took from the sea Hawiians would
have starved... when the catch was poor or fish became boring they
literally ate each other.

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 3:50:10 PM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:59:27 -1000, dsi1 <dsi1fishing.net> wrote:
>
> >On 1/31/2017 11:59 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:48:32 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi10yahoo.com>
> >> wrote
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >>>> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>>>> news > >>>>>> On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>>>>>> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> >>>>>>> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> >>>>>> matter
> >>>>>> he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian, Chinese,
> >>>>>> or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Heck, my parents lived on KÄ«lauea for two years. This was before I
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>> born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time) were
> >>>>>> there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese woman
> >>>>>> who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on her
> >>>>>> patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down salt,
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> >>>>>> native
> >>>>>> tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of the
> >>>>>> world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>> if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> >>>>>> pounder".
> >>>>>> Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want to
> >>>>>> eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
> >>>>>> heard
> >>>>>> of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jill
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> >>>>> around. LOL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheri
> >>>>
> >>>> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have some
> >>>> cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people that
> >>>> came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item that's
> >>>> been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Did you actually see this particular pounder?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheri
> >>>
> >>> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be.. OTOH, from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
> >>>
> >>> http://manuantiques.com/wp-content/u...IMG_3972-1.jpg
> >>
> >> Where's the female counterpart?
> >>
> >
> >That would be the papa kuiai.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPl8xLWwW-o
>
> A wooden board?
> http://manaai.com/pages/what-is-pai-ai
>
> I've never eaten poi and after watching it being made I don't think I
> ever will... it looks exactly what I once found in baby diapers...
> isn't there a presentation that makes it more appealing? Are there
> poi recipes, some way to cook it with other ingredients? Perhaps
> there's a poi cookbook, I will search. Nothing I found looks
> enticing:
> http://www.cookinghawaiianstyle.com/...=detail&id=471
> http://www.poico.com/artman/publish/article_67.php

I already know this. People that have not eaten poi from small kid time will never find poi to be acceptable. I don't have any problem with that. You can disrespect things that you don't understand but the truth is that anything that can keep an ocean going traveller alive during long voyages will have an almost sacred relationship between them. Poi certainly qualifies. In your case, it's Spam.

On 2017-01-31 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 1/31/2017 1:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>> Diets and food traditions change over time, hopefully for the better.
>> Italy is famous for pasta and tomato sauce, often spiced up with hot
>> peppers. Tomatoes were unheard of in Italy before the discovery of the
>> New World. Western Europe thrives on meat and potatoes, but potatoes
>> were another discovery from the New World.
>>
>
> The difference is that the Hawaiians are not ashamed of where they came
> from. There's a renewed interest in taro worldwide. This is a good thing.
>

It is not a matter of being ashamed of where we came from. It's a matter
of having access to a lot of things that are better than the food our
ancestors had.


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On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:12:05 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-31 1:33 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might
>> have some cultural significance to you if it was an important food
>> for the people that came before you. My guess is that you have a food
>> preparation item that's been in your family for a while that you
>> treasure. Same thing.
>
>Poppycock. There are some things that were traditional among my
>ancestors, but it is because they were Europeans and most of them were
>not well enough off to afford better. They likely ate a lot of gruel and
>crappy root vegetables because that's all there was to eat.


"crappy root vegetables"?
Janet US

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 5:18:03 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-31 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On 1/31/2017 1:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Diets and food traditions change over time, hopefully for the better.
> >> Italy is famous for pasta and tomato sauce, often spiced up with hot
> >> peppers. Tomatoes were unheard of in Italy before the discovery of the
> >> New World. Western Europe thrives on meat and potatoes, but potatoes
> >> were another discovery from the New World.
> >>
> >
> > The difference is that the Hawaiians are not ashamed of where they came
> > from. There's a renewed interest in taro worldwide. This is a good thing.
> >
>
> It is not a matter of being ashamed of where we came from. It's a matter
> of having access to a lot of things that are better than the food our
> ancestors had.
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Are you saying that Dom Perignon and Big Macs are superior to the diet of ancient Hawaiians? I say poppycock, sir. The ancient Hawaiians lived in a food paradise and as far as we know, suffered from no nutritional deficiencies. You can make disparaging statements about your predecessors but I sure won't.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > news
> > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> > >
> > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> > > matter
> > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
> > > Chinese,
> > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> > >
> > > Heck, my parents lived on KÀžÃ‚«lauea for two years. This was
> > > before I
> > > was
> > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time)
> > > were
> > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese
> > > woman
> > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on
> > > her
> > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down
> > > salt,
> > > it
> > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> > > native
> > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> > >
> > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of
> > > the
> > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not
> > > as
> > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> > >
> > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> > > pounder".
> > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want to
> > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
> > > heard
> > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> >
> > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> > around. LOL
> >
> > Cheri
>
> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have
> some
> cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people
> that
> came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item that's
> been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
>
>
> Did you actually see this particular pounder?
>
> Cheri

They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are
beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be. OTOH,
from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design
refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.

=======

Nothing against poi at all, I just don't like the looks of the pounder, I
like a pounder that looks more like what Nancy Fuller has which is made of
some type of Hawaiian wood. I find nothing at all attractive about that
stone one.

Cheri

On 2017-01-31 11:39 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:12:05 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-01-31 1:33 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might
>>> have some cultural significance to you if it was an important food
>>> for the people that came before you. My guess is that you have a food
>>> preparation item that's been in your family for a while that you
>>> treasure. Same thing.
>>
>> Poppycock. There are some things that were traditional among my
>> ancestors, but it is because they were Europeans and most of them were
>> not well enough off to afford better. They likely ate a lot of gruel and
>> crappy root vegetables because that's all there was to eat.
>
>
> "crappy root vegetables"?

Sorry, but they are not my favourites. I would like them even less if
that was all I had from fall to spring.

On Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 9:11:37 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-31 11:39 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:12:05 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2017-01-31 1:33 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >>> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might
> >>> have some cultural significance to you if it was an important food
> >>> for the people that came before you. My guess is that you have a food
> >>> preparation item that's been in your family for a while that you
> >>> treasure. Same thing.
> >>
> >> Poppycock. There are some things that were traditional among my
> >> ancestors, but it is because they were Europeans and most of them were
> >> not well enough off to afford better. They likely ate a lot of gruel and
> >> crappy root vegetables because that's all there was to eat.
> >
> >
> > "crappy root vegetables"?
>
> Sorry, but they are not my favourites. I would like them even less if
> that was all I had from fall to spring.

Aha! You've hit on my objection to "eat local". I don't
want to subsist on parsnips during the four months every
year that the ground is frozen solid.

I had a very nice fattoush salad last night for dinner.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2017-01-31 11:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 5:18:03 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-01-31 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 1/31/2017 1:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Diets and food traditions change over time, hopefully for the
>>>> better. Italy is famous for pasta and tomato sauce, often
>>>> spiced up with hot peppers. Tomatoes were unheard of in Italy
>>>> before the discovery of the New World. Western Europe thrives
>>>> on meat and potatoes, but potatoes were another discovery from
>>>> the New World.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The difference is that the Hawaiians are not ashamed of where
>>> they came from. There's a renewed interest in taro worldwide.
>>> This is a good thing.
>>>
>>
>> It is not a matter of being ashamed of where we came from. It's a
>> matter of having access to a lot of things that are better than the
>> food our ancestors had.
>>
>>
>> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus
>> software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
> Are you saying that Dom Perignon and Big Macs are superior to the
> diet of ancient Hawaiians?


Show me where I said that and I will be forced to agree that I did.
Other wise, I think it is safe to say that I did not.


>I say poppycock, sir. The ancient
> Hawaiians lived in a food paradise and as far as we know, suffered
> from no nutritional deficiencies. You can make disparaging statements
> about your predecessors but I sure won't.


I made comments about the types of food that were available to them.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>Dave Smith wrote:
>>Janet B. wrote:
>> >Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>dsi1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> You might if poi had some cultural significance to you.

Poi Tuuuui!

>> >> Poppycock. There are some things that were traditional among my
>> >> ancestors, but it is because they were Europeans and most of them were
>> >> not well enough off to afford better. They likely ate a lot of gruel and
>> >> crappy root vegetables because that's all there was to eat.
>> >
>> > "crappy root vegetables"?
>>
>> Sorry, but they are not my favourites. I would like them even less if
>> that was all I had from fall to spring.
>
>Aha! You've hit on my objection to "eat local". I don't
>want to subsist on parsnips during the four months every
>year that the ground is frozen solid.

I don't eat parsnips (don't like that gritty texture) but they are
excellent for flavoing chicken stock. However there are many common
root vegetable that people eat all the time that receive no
complaints; garlic, onions, radishes, turnips, potatoes, carrots, and
I love pickled beet salad

>I had a very nice fattoush salad last night for dinner.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

What pray tell is a Fat Tush Salad? <g>
Looks good, just omit the mint for me:
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo...attoush-395481
Actually I prepare a very similar salad very often in summer from
whatever is growing in my garden, no mint but a lot of curly leaf
parsley, and several other veggies. And I prepare a smilar dressing
with a lot of fresh lemon juice rather than vinegar, but not nearly so
much olive oil... that's what gives you a Fat Tush! LOL

On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 09:26:00 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-01-31 11:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 5:18:03 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2017-01-31 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 1/31/2017 1:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Diets and food traditions change over time, hopefully for the
>>>>> better. Italy is famous for pasta and tomato sauce, often
>>>>> spiced up with hot peppers. Tomatoes were unheard of in Italy
>>>>> before the discovery of the New World. Western Europe thrives
>>>>> on meat and potatoes, but potatoes were another discovery from
>>>>> the New World.
>>>>
>>>> The difference is that the Hawaiians are not ashamed of where
>>>> they came from. There's a renewed interest in taro worldwide.
>>>> This is a good thing.
>>>
>>> It is not a matter of being ashamed of where we came from. It's a
>>> matter of having access to a lot of things that are better than the
>>> food our ancestors had.
>>
>> Are you saying that Dom Perignon and Big Macs are superior to the
>> diet of ancient Hawaiians?
>
>Show me where I said that and I will be forced to agree that I did.
>Other wise, I think it is safe to say that I did not.
>
>> I say poppycock, sir. The ancient
>> Hawaiians lived in a food paradise and as far as we know, suffered
>> from no nutritional deficiencies. You can make disparaging statements
>> about your predecessors but I sure won't.
>
>I made comments about the types of food that were available to them.

Truth be known that other than seafood the ancient Hawiians had
pitiful few native foods to choose from... most of what's farmed in
modern Hawaii are imports from the west, even the pineapple is from
Central America, and it's no longer profitable to grow pineapple in
Hawaii, that real estate is far more valuable for building tourist
centers/traps.

Dave Smith wrote:
>dsi1 wrote:
>>Dave Smith wrote:
>>>dsi1 wrote:
>>>>Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Diets and food traditions change over time, hopefully for the
>>>>> better. Italy is famous for pasta and tomato sauce, often
>>>>> spiced up with hot peppers. Tomatoes were unheard of in Italy
>>>>> before the discovery of the New World. Western Europe thrives
>>>>> on meat and potatoes, but potatoes were another discovery from
>>>>> the New World.
>>>>
>>>> The difference is that the Hawaiians are not ashamed of where
>>>> they came from. There's a renewed interest in taro worldwide.
>>>> This is a good thing.
>>>
>>> It is not a matter of being ashamed of where we came from. It's a
>>> matter of having access to a lot of things that are better than the
>>> food our ancestors had.
>>
>> Are you saying that Dom Perignon and Big Macs are superior to the
>> diet of ancient Hawaiians?
>
>Show me where I said that and I will be forced to agree that I did.
>Other wise, I think it is safe to say that I did not.
>
>>I say poppycock, sir. The ancient
>> Hawaiians lived in a food paradise and as far as we know, suffered
>> from no nutritional deficiencies. You can make disparaging statements
>> about your predecessors but I sure won't.
>
>I made comments about the types of food that were available to them.

Other than seafood and each other there wasn't very much food
available to Hawaiians... in some remote parts of the Pacific rim
cannibalism is still practiced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism
http://heretical.com/cannibal/nguinea2.html
http://apdl.kcc.hawaii.edu/oahu/stor...ua/killing.htm

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 8:31:59 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > > news > > > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> > > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> > > >
> > > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> > > > matter
> > > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
> > > > Chinese,
> > > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> > > >
> > > > Heck, my parents lived on KÀžÃ€šÃ‚«lauea for two years. This was
> > > > before I
> > > > was
> > > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time)
> > > > were
> > > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese
> > > > woman
> > > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on
> > > > her
> > > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down
> > > > salt,
> > > > it
> > > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> > > > native
> > > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> > > >
> > > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of
> > > > the
> > > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is not
> > > > as
> > > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> > > >
> > > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> > > > pounder".
> > > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want to
> > > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
> > > > heard
> > > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > >
> > > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> > > around. LOL
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have
> > some
> > cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people
> > that
> > came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item that's
> > been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
> >
> >
> > Did you actually see this particular pounder?
> >
> > Cheri
>
> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are
> beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be. OTOH,
> from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design
> refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
>
> =======
>
> Nothing against poi at all, I just don't like the looks of the pounder, I
> like a pounder that looks more like what Nancy Fuller has which is made of
> some type of Hawaiian wood. I find nothing at all attractive about that
> stone one.
>
> Cheri

I forgot that there were poi pounders made of wood probably because they're two different things. One is a tool and one is a decoration. Men tend of have a special relationship with the tools they use if it helps them accomplish their goals. When I was a printer, I used to have a favorite ink knife. That was a good knife. I will check out the koa pounders the next time I'm in a Hawaiian art gallery.

Poi acts in unexpected ways with water. Bagged poi is a sticky gooey mess while in the package. I was surprised the first time I saw my dad add water to the bag and started kneading the poi. After a while, he dumped the whole thing into a bowl. It came out in a single lump and the bag was clean. Astounding!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWxJHP0044

On Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 4:24:25 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-01-31 11:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 5:18:03 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2017-01-31 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>> On 1/31/2017 1:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> Diets and food traditions change over time, hopefully for the
> >>>> better. Italy is famous for pasta and tomato sauce, often
> >>>> spiced up with hot peppers. Tomatoes were unheard of in Italy
> >>>> before the discovery of the New World. Western Europe thrives
> >>>> on meat and potatoes, but potatoes were another discovery from
> >>>> the New World.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The difference is that the Hawaiians are not ashamed of where
> >>> they came from. There's a renewed interest in taro worldwide.
> >>> This is a good thing.
> >>>
> >>
> >> It is not a matter of being ashamed of where we came from. It's a
> >> matter of having access to a lot of things that are better than the
> >> food our ancestors had.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus
> >> software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
> >
> > Are you saying that Dom Perignon and Big Macs are superior to the
> > diet of ancient Hawaiians?
>
>
> Show me where I said that and I will be forced to agree that I did.
> Other wise, I think it is safe to say that I did not.
>
>
> >I say poppycock, sir. The ancient
> > Hawaiians lived in a food paradise and as far as we know, suffered
> > from no nutritional deficiencies. You can make disparaging statements
> > about your predecessors but I sure won't.
>
>
> I made comments about the types of food that were available to them.

Mostly you thought poorly of the foods your people used to eat. Their potatoes and roots were an indicator of their low status. That was not the case with the ancient Hawaiians. They ate well and people that ate poi were not looked down upon. Nobody here thinks the old Hawaiians were low class or ate crappy foods.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 8:31:59 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > > news > > > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> > > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> > > >
> > > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> > > > matter
> > > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
> > > > Chinese,
> > > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> > > >
> > > > Heck, my parents lived on KÀžÃ€šÃ‚«lauea for two years.
> > > > This was
> > > > before I
> > > > was
> > > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time)
> > > > were
> > > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese
> > > > woman
> > > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on
> > > > her
> > > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down
> > > > salt,
> > > > it
> > > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> > > > native
> > > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> > > >
> > > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of
> > > > the
> > > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is
> > > > not
> > > > as
> > > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> > > >
> > > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> > > > pounder".
> > > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want
> > > > to
> > > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
> > > > heard
> > > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > >
> > > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> > > around. LOL
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have
> > some
> > cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people
> > that
> > came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item
> > that's
> > been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
> >
> >
> > Did you actually see this particular pounder?
> >
> > Cheri
>
> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are
> beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be.
> OTOH,
> from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design
> refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
>
> =======
>
> Nothing against poi at all, I just don't like the looks of the pounder, I
> like a pounder that looks more like what Nancy Fuller has which is made of
> some type of Hawaiian wood. I find nothing at all attractive about that
> stone one.
>
> Cheri

I forgot that there were poi pounders made of wood probably because they're
two different things. One is a tool and one is a decoration. Men tend of
have a special relationship with the tools they use if it helps them
accomplish their goals. When I was a printer, I used to have a favorite ink
knife. That was a good knife. I will check out the koa pounders the next
time I'm in a Hawaiian art gallery.

Poi acts in unexpected ways with water. Bagged poi is a sticky gooey mess
while in the package. I was surprised the first time I saw my dad add water
to the bag and started kneading the poi. After a while, he dumped the whole
thing into a bowl. It came out in a single lump and the bag was clean.
Astounding!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWxJHP0044

Actually, both are tools and would work well and your video was interesting.

Cheri

On Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 10:04:25 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 8:31:59 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > > > news > > > > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> > > > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> > > > >
> > > > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> > > > > matter
> > > > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
> > > > > Chinese,
> > > > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Heck, my parents lived on KÃÆ€žÃ€šÃ€šÃ‚«lauea for two years.
> > > > > This was
> > > > > before I
> > > > > was
> > > > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time)
> > > > > were
> > > > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese
> > > > > woman
> > > > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on
> > > > > her
> > > > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down
> > > > > salt,
> > > > > it
> > > > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> > > > > native
> > > > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of
> > > > > the
> > > > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is
> > > > > not
> > > > > as
> > > > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> > > > >
> > > > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> > > > > pounder".
> > > > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want
> > > > > to
> > > > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
> > > > > heard
> > > > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> > > > around. LOL
> > > >
> > > > Cheri
> > >
> > > You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have
> > > some
> > > cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people
> > > that
> > > came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item
> > > that's
> > > been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you actually see this particular pounder?
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are
> > beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be.
> > OTOH,
> > from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design
> > refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome..
> >
> > =======
> >
> > Nothing against poi at all, I just don't like the looks of the pounder, I
> > like a pounder that looks more like what Nancy Fuller has which is made of
> > some type of Hawaiian wood. I find nothing at all attractive about that
> > stone one.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> I forgot that there were poi pounders made of wood probably because they're
> two different things. One is a tool and one is a decoration. Men tend of
> have a special relationship with the tools they use if it helps them
> accomplish their goals. When I was a printer, I used to have a favorite ink
> knife. That was a good knife. I will check out the koa pounders the next
> time I'm in a Hawaiian art gallery.
>
> Poi acts in unexpected ways with water. Bagged poi is a sticky gooey mess
> while in the package. I was surprised the first time I saw my dad add water
> to the bag and started kneading the poi. After a while, he dumped the whole
> thing into a bowl. It came out in a single lump and the bag was clean.
> Astounding!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWxJHP0044
>
> Actually, both are tools and would work well and your video was interesting.
>
> Cheri

I did not know this but will investigate. Thanks.

On 2017-02-01 1:53 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>> I made comments about the types of food that were available to
>> them.
>
> Mostly you thought poorly of the foods your people used to eat. Their
> potatoes and roots were an indicator of their low status.


Potatoes? What potatoes? They were unknown in Europe until the middle of
the 16th century, sort of like Hawaii's famous pineapple.... imported
from South America by the Spanish around the same time.

>That was
> not the case with the ancient Hawaiians. They ate well and people
> that ate poi were not looked down upon. Nobody here thinks the old
> Hawaiians were low class or ate crappy foods.

Add that to the things I never said.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 8:31:59 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > > news > > > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> > > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> > > >
> > > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> > > > matter
> > > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
> > > > Chinese,
> > > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> > > >
> > > > Heck, my parents lived on KÀžÃ€šÃ‚«lauea for two years. This was
> > > > before I
> > > > was
> > > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time)
> > > > were
> > > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese
> > > > woman
> > > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge snails on
> > > > her
> > > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down
> > > > salt,
> > > > it
> > > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> > > > native
> > > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> > > >
> > > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of
> > > > the
> > > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It is
> > > > not
> > > > as
> > > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> > > >
> > > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> > > > pounder".
> > > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I want
> > > > to
> > > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd sure
> > > > heard
> > > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > >
> > > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> > > around. LOL
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have
> > some
> > cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people
> > that
> > came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item
> > that's
> > been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
> >
> >
> > Did you actually see this particular pounder?
> >
> > Cheri
>
> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they are
> beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be.
> OTOH,
> from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have design
> refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
>
> =======
>
> Nothing against poi at all, I just don't like the looks of the pounder, I
> like a pounder that looks more like what Nancy Fuller has which is made of
> some type of Hawaiian wood. I find nothing at all attractive about that
> stone one.
>
> Cheri

I forgot that there were poi pounders made of wood probably because they're
two different things. One is a tool and one is a decoration. Men tend of
have a special relationship with the tools they use if it helps them
accomplish their goals. When I was a printer, I used to have a favorite ink
knife. That was a good knife. I will check out the koa pounders the next
time I'm in a Hawaiian art gallery.

Poi acts in unexpected ways with water. Bagged poi is a sticky gooey mess
while in the package. I was surprised the first time I saw my dad add water
to the bag and started kneading the poi. After a while, he dumped the whole
thing into a bowl. It came out in a single lump and the bag was clean.
Astounding!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWxJHP0044

===

I enjoyed the vid and the music Also loved the wee soul sitting on his
knee))

I have never come across taro (so far as I know) and sadly I doubt it will
ever cross my path.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 2/1/2017 10:39 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-02-01 1:53 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> I made comments about the types of food that were available to
>>> them.
>>
>> Mostly you thought poorly of the foods your people used to eat. Their
>> potatoes and roots were an indicator of their low status.
>
>
> Potatoes? What potatoes? They were unknown in Europe until the middle of
> the 16th century, sort of like Hawaii's famous pineapple.... imported
> from South America by the Spanish around the same time.
>
>> That was
>> not the case with the ancient Hawaiians. They ate well and people
>> that ate poi were not looked down upon. Nobody here thinks the old
>> Hawaiians were low class or ate crappy foods.
>
> Add that to the things I never said.
>
>
>

Your post was singularly remarkable in that it apparently said nothing
at all. Brilliant!

On 2/1/2017 10:57 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 8:31:59 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> > > news >> > > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
>> > > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
>> > > >
>> > > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
>> > > > matter
>> > > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
>> > > > Chinese,
>> > > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
>> > > >
>> > > > Heck, my parents lived on KÀžÃ€šÃ‚«lauea for two years. This was
>> > > > before I
>> > > > was
>> > > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time)
>> > > > were
>> > > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese
>> > > > woman
>> > > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge
>> snails on
>> > > > her
>> > > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down
>> > > > salt,
>> > > > it
>> > > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
>> > > > native
>> > > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
>> > > >
>> > > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of
>> > > > the
>> > > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It
>> is > > > not
>> > > > as
>> > > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
>> > > >
>> > > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
>> > > > pounder".
>> > > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I
>> want > > > to
>> > > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd
>> sure
>> > > > heard
>> > > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
>> > > >
>> > > > Jill
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want
>> sitting
>> > > around. LOL
>> > >
>> > > Cheri
>> >
>> > You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have
>> > some
>> > cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people
>> > that
>> > came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item >
>> that's
>> > been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
>> >
>> >
>> > Did you actually see this particular pounder?
>> >
>> > Cheri
>>
>> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they
>> are
>> beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be.
>> OTOH,
>> from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have
>> design
>> refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
>>
>> =======
>>
>> Nothing against poi at all, I just don't like the looks of the pounder, I
>> like a pounder that looks more like what Nancy Fuller has which is
>> made of
>> some type of Hawaiian wood. I find nothing at all attractive about that
>> stone one.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I forgot that there were poi pounders made of wood probably because
> they're two different things. One is a tool and one is a decoration. Men
> tend of have a special relationship with the tools they use if it helps
> them accomplish their goals. When I was a printer, I used to have a
> favorite ink knife. That was a good knife. I will check out the koa
> pounders the next time I'm in a Hawaiian art gallery.
>
> Poi acts in unexpected ways with water. Bagged poi is a sticky gooey
> mess while in the package. I was surprised the first time I saw my dad
> add water to the bag and started kneading the poi. After a while, he
> dumped the whole thing into a bowl. It came out in a single lump and the
> bag was clean. Astounding!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWxJHP0044
>
> ===
>
> I enjoyed the vid and the music Also loved the wee soul sitting on
> his knee))
>
> I have never come across taro (so far as I know) and sadly I doubt it
> will ever cross my path.
>

I can't say that you're missing much. OTOH, if you or your infant suffer
from digestive problems, poi might be just the ticket.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1482315/

On 2017-02-01 8:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 2/1/2017 10:39 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>> That was
>>> not the case with the ancient Hawaiians. They ate well and people
>>> that ate poi were not looked down upon. Nobody here thinks the old
>>> Hawaiians were low class or ate crappy foods.
>>
>> Add that to the things I never said.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Your post was singularly remarkable in that it apparently said nothing
> at all. Brilliant!


Given your recent history of trying to put words in my mouth I am sure
you could come up with something.

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"dsi1" wrote in message news
On 2/1/2017 10:57 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 8:31:59 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> > > news >> > > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
>> > > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
>> > > >
>> > > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
>> > > > matter
>> > > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
>> > > > Chinese,
>> > > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
>> > > >
>> > > > Heck, my parents lived on KÀžÃ€šÃ‚«lauea for two years. This was
>> > > > before I
>> > > > was
>> > > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time)
>> > > > were
>> > > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese
>> > > > woman
>> > > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge
>> snails on
>> > > > her
>> > > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down
>> > > > salt,
>> > > > it
>> > > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
>> > > > native
>> > > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
>> > > >
>> > > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of
>> > > > the
>> > > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It
>> is > > > not
>> > > > as
>> > > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
>> > > >
>> > > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
>> > > > pounder".
>> > > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I
>> want > > > to
>> > > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd
>> sure
>> > > > heard
>> > > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
>> > > >
>> > > > Jill
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want
>> sitting
>> > > around. LOL
>> > >
>> > > Cheri
>> >
>> > You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have
>> > some
>> > cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people
>> > that
>> > came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item >
>> that's
>> > been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
>> >
>> >
>> > Did you actually see this particular pounder?
>> >
>> > Cheri
>>
>> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they
>> are
>> beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be.
>> OTOH,
>> from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have
>> design
>> refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
>>
>> =======
>>
>> Nothing against poi at all, I just don't like the looks of the pounder, I
>> like a pounder that looks more like what Nancy Fuller has which is
>> made of
>> some type of Hawaiian wood. I find nothing at all attractive about that
>> stone one.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I forgot that there were poi pounders made of wood probably because
> they're two different things. One is a tool and one is a decoration. Men
> tend of have a special relationship with the tools they use if it helps
> them accomplish their goals. When I was a printer, I used to have a
> favorite ink knife. That was a good knife. I will check out the koa
> pounders the next time I'm in a Hawaiian art gallery.
>
> Poi acts in unexpected ways with water. Bagged poi is a sticky gooey
> mess while in the package. I was surprised the first time I saw my dad
> add water to the bag and started kneading the poi. After a while, he
> dumped the whole thing into a bowl. It came out in a single lump and the
> bag was clean. Astounding!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWxJHP0044
>
> ===
>
> I enjoyed the vid and the music Also loved the wee soul sitting on
> his knee))
>
> I have never come across taro (so far as I know) and sadly I doubt it
> will ever cross my path.
>

I can't say that you're missing much. OTOH, if you or your infant suffer
from digestive problems, poi might be just the ticket.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1482315/

====

Hmmm since I have no infant and my digestion is ok ... ;-)



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 1/31/2017 12:58 PM, Cheri wrote in reply to Jill:
>> Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
>> pounder". Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something
>> I want to eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside.
>> They'd sure heard of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of
>> Indiana. LOL
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want sitting
> around. LOL
>
> Cheri

I agree! It was an ugly thing. I might use it as a door-stop if I had
one laying around.

Jill

On 2/1/2017 3:39 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-02-01 1:53 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> I made comments about the types of food that were available to
>>> them.
>>
>> Mostly you thought poorly of the foods your people used to eat. Their
>> potatoes and roots were an indicator of their low status.
>
>
> Potatoes? What potatoes? They were unknown in Europe until the middle of
> the 16th century, sort of like Hawaii's famous pineapple.... imported
> from South America by the Spanish around the same time.
>
>> That was
>> not the case with the ancient Hawaiians. They ate well and people
>> that ate poi were not looked down upon. Nobody here thinks the old
>> Hawaiians were low class or ate crappy foods.
>
> Add that to the things I never said.
>
Now he's just trying to stretch a silly argument.

Jill

On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 2:54:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message news >
> On 2/1/2017 10:57 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 8:31:59 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >> > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> > > news > >> > > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> > > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> >> > > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it really
> >> > > > matter
> >> > > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
> >> > > > Chinese,
> >> > > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Heck, my parents lived on KÀžÃ€šÃ‚«lauea for two years. This was
> >> > > > before I
> >> > > > was
> >> > > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the time)
> >> > > > were
> >> > > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a Japanese
> >> > > > woman
> >> > > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge
> >> snails on
> >> > > > her
> >> > > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down
> >> > > > salt,
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was a
> >> > > > native
> >> > > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest of
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It
> >> is > > > not
> >> > > > as
> >> > > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> >> > > > pounder".
> >> > > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I
> >> want > > > to
> >> > > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd
> >> sure
> >> > > > heard
> >> > > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Jill
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want
> >> sitting
> >> > > around. LOL
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheri
> >> >
> >> > You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might have
> >> > some
> >> > cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the people
> >> > that
> >> > came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item >
> >> that's
> >> > been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Did you actually see this particular pounder?
> >> >
> >> > Cheri
> >>
> >> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they
> >> are
> >> beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be.
> >> OTOH,
> >> from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have
> >> design
> >> refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them awesome.
> >>
> >> =======
> >>
> >> Nothing against poi at all, I just don't like the looks of the pounder, I
> >> like a pounder that looks more like what Nancy Fuller has which is
> >> made of
> >> some type of Hawaiian wood. I find nothing at all attractive about that
> >> stone one.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > I forgot that there were poi pounders made of wood probably because
> > they're two different things. One is a tool and one is a decoration. Men
> > tend of have a special relationship with the tools they use if it helps
> > them accomplish their goals. When I was a printer, I used to have a
> > favorite ink knife. That was a good knife. I will check out the koa
> > pounders the next time I'm in a Hawaiian art gallery.
> >
> > Poi acts in unexpected ways with water. Bagged poi is a sticky gooey
> > mess while in the package. I was surprised the first time I saw my dad
> > add water to the bag and started kneading the poi. After a while, he
> > dumped the whole thing into a bowl. It came out in a single lump and the
> > bag was clean. Astounding!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWxJHP0044
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I enjoyed the vid and the music Also loved the wee soul sitting on
> > his knee))
> >
> > I have never come across taro (so far as I know) and sadly I doubt it
> > will ever cross my path.
> >
>
> I can't say that you're missing much. OTOH, if you or your infant suffer
> from digestive problems, poi might be just the ticket.
>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1482315/
>
> ====
>
> Hmmm since I have no infant and my digestion is ok ... ;-)
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

My daughter bought some hand pounded poi. It's thicker than regular poi and comes in a brick. It's somewhat intimidating. Here's something that's pretty scary too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzwuTBx93uA

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On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 2:54:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message news >
> On 2/1/2017 10:57 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 8:31:59 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >> > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> > > news > >> > > > On 1/27/2017 6:38 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> > > >> The ONLY memorable thing dsi1 does here is to
> >> > > >> constantly remind us that he's Oriental...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I snipped a bunch but I kind of have to agree here. Does it
> >> > > > really
> >> > > > matter
> >> > > > he lives in Hawaii or that he might be of Polynesian, Hawaiian,
> >> > > > Chinese,
> >> > > > or Japanese descent? Not to me.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Heck, my parents lived on KÀžÃ€šÃ‚«lauea for two years. This
> >> > > > was
> >> > > > before I
> >> > > > was
> >> > > > born. My two older brothers (still pretty much babies at the
> >> > > > time)
> >> > > > were
> >> > > > there with them. I remember my mother telling me about a
> >> > > > Japanese
> >> > > > woman
> >> > > > who lived next door who would go outside and stomp on huge
> >> snails on
> >> > > > her
> >> > > > patio with her bare feet. Common sense would tell me to put down
> >> > > > salt,
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > deters snails and slugs. Apparently just stomping on snails was
> >> > > > a
> >> > > > native
> >> > > > tradition. Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the cut off from the rest
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > world. It's all well and good to want to preserve culture. It
> >> is > > > not
> >> > > > as
> >> > > > if the islands of Hawaii are a mystery.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Guess what I saw on the 'Antiques Roadshow' last night? A "poi
> >> > > > pounder".
> >> > > > Poi being a traditional Hawaiian food. Sorry, not something I
> >> want > > > to
> >> > > > eat. But gee, the show was taped in Indiana, stateside. They'd
> >> sure
> >> > > > heard
> >> > > > of Hawaii (and poi) even if dsi1 has never heard of Indiana. LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Jill
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I thought the pounder was NOT an attractive thing I would want
> >> sitting
> >> > > around. LOL
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheri
> >> >
> >> > You might if poi had some cultural significance to you. Poi might
> >> > have
> >> > some
> >> > cultural significance to you if it was an important food for the
> >> > people
> >> > that
> >> > came before you. My guess is that you have a food preparation item >
> >> that's
> >> > been in your family for a while that you treasure. Same thing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Did you actually see this particular pounder?
> >> >
> >> > Cheri
> >>
> >> They pretty much look all the same. From an aesthetic standpoint, they
> >> are
> >> beautiful, elegant, objects in a way that a frying pan could never be.
> >> OTOH,
> >> from a utilitarian point of view, poi pounders and frying pans have
> >> design
> >> refinements shaped by hundreds of years of use. That makes them
> >> awesome.
> >>
> >> =======
> >>
> >> Nothing against poi at all, I just don't like the looks of the pounder,
> >> I
> >> like a pounder that looks more like what Nancy Fuller has which is
> >> made of
> >> some type of Hawaiian wood. I find nothing at all attractive about that
> >> stone one.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > I forgot that there were poi pounders made of wood probably because
> > they're two different things. One is a tool and one is a decoration. Men
> > tend of have a special relationship with the tools they use if it helps
> > them accomplish their goals. When I was a printer, I used to have a
> > favorite ink knife. That was a good knife. I will check out the koa
> > pounders the next time I'm in a Hawaiian art gallery.
> >
> > Poi acts in unexpected ways with water. Bagged poi is a sticky gooey
> > mess while in the package. I was surprised the first time I saw my dad
> > add water to the bag and started kneading the poi. After a while, he
> > dumped the whole thing into a bowl. It came out in a single lump and the
> > bag was clean. Astounding!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsWxJHP0044
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I enjoyed the vid and the music Also loved the wee soul sitting on
> > his knee))
> >
> > I have never come across taro (so far as I know) and sadly I doubt it
> > will ever cross my path.
> >
>
> I can't say that you're missing much. OTOH, if you or your infant suffer
> from digestive problems, poi might be just the ticket.
>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1482315/
>
> ====
>
> Hmmm since I have no infant and my digestion is ok ... ;-)
>
>
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My daughter bought some hand pounded poi. It's thicker than regular poi and
comes in a brick. It's somewhat intimidating. Here's something that's pretty
scary too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzwuTBx93uA

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