On 2017-01-29 8:05 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>> BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
>> trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
>>
> You have more reading to do - there are SIX books in that series,
> "Earth's Children".


I thought she had pretty well run out of material by the end of the
third one.
>

On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>
> BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
> trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
>
> Back in the 80's, I heard an interview with her right before
> her first book was released. I was hooked. She wanted it to
> be as realistic as possible so she traveled north and spent
> several years researching early man.
>
> So anyway, she wrote fiction based on facts. Same as
> James Michener did with his books. Both have/had a great talent
> for story telling. Both great authors, imo.
>
I read most of the books. So did my mother. <smile> It was pretty much
speculation but an interesting series of fiction. Ayla was a different
breed. It was not fun that Ayla was pretty much raped and cast out for
having a half-breed son.

Jill

On 1/29/2017 9:14 AM, wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:05:45 -0500, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
>>> trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
>>>
>> You have more reading to do - there are SIX books in that series,
>> "Earth's Children".
>
> I might go there at some point, have you read them, were they as good
> as the Clan of the Cave Bear ?
>
You'd have to read them to judge. The Clan of the Cave Bear was really
great.

Jill

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> wrote:
>>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >It's impossible to live totally green unless you're a Neanderthal
>> >living ten thousand years ago.
>
>> Nah, those people were lighting smoky fires in their caves, god knows
>> what that did to their lungs.
>
> Well... they're all dead now so that tells you something.
>
> BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
> trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
>
> Back in the 80's, I heard an interview with her right before
> her first book was released. I was hooked. She wanted it to
> be as realistic as possible so she traveled north and spent
> several years researching early man.
>
> So anyway, she wrote fiction based on facts. Same as
> James Michener did with his books. Both have/had a great talent
> for story telling. Both great authors, imo.



Yes, I have read all of the Ayla/Jondalar earth children books, but Clan of
the Cave Bear was best IMO.

Cheri

On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> wrote:

> BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
> trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
>
> Back in the 80's, I heard an interview with her right before
> her first book was released. I was hooked. She wanted it to
> be as realistic as possible so she traveled north and spent
> several years researching early man.

I read at least the first two books. I think it was required
back then.

> So anyway, she wrote fiction based on facts. Same as
> James Michener did with his books. Both have/had a great talent
> for story telling. Both great authors, imo.

I'm a big Michener fan. Marvelous epic stories.

nancy

On 2017-01-29 10:25 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/29/2017 9:14 AM, wrote:

>> I might go there at some point, have you read them, were they as good
>> as the Clan of the Cave Bear ?
>>
> You'd have to read them to judge. The Clan of the Cave Bear was really
> great.


It was a great book and the next two were interesting, but it seemed
that it became a sage of Ayla being in on the discovery and acceptance
of just about everything in the developing world.... fire, soap, horses...

On 2017-01-29 10:47 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
>> wrote:
>
>> BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
>> trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
>>
>> Back in the 80's, I heard an interview with her right before
>> her first book was released. I was hooked. She wanted it to
>> be as realistic as possible so she traveled north and spent
>> several years researching early man.
>
> I read at least the first two books. I think it was required
> back then.
>
>> So anyway, she wrote fiction based on facts. Same as
>> James Michener did with his books. Both have/had a great talent
>> for story telling. Both great authors, imo.
>
> I'm a big Michener fan. Marvelous epic stories.
>


Just remember that it is historical fiction.

On 1/28/2017 11:07 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 22:58:54 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/28/2017 9:13 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Having groceries delivered can cut carbon dioxide emissions by at least
>>>> half, compared to driving to the store, according to a new study. That's
>>>> because the delivery truck offers the equivalent of a "shared ride" for
>>>> the food.
>>>>
>>>> Watch out for the tomato
>>>> http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/food-miles
>>>
>>> You can find proof on the internet that 1 + 1 = 5. Especially if
>>> someone has a financial interest in claiming that. Bring some common
>>> sense when you go fact finding on the Internet.
>>>
>>> Of course, when one is old and frail, convenience trumps everything
>>> else.
>>>
>>
>> Sure, but aside from your opinion, what do you have to add? You can
>> take issue with what I posted but surely you can find a strong rebuttal
>> with actual facts.
>
> You don't care. You only care about convenience and bum warmers
> Enjoy.
>

I remotely start the car too, so it is warm and comfy when I get in.
Its only burning some gas, we can just grow more fossils and make more.

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> > So anyway, she wrote fiction based on facts. Same as
> > James Michener did with his books. Both have/had a great talent
> > for story telling. Both great authors, imo.
>
> I'm a big Michener fan. Marvelous epic stories.

Me too, Nancy. He was one of my favorites and I've read many but not
all.

I was kind of bored reading his first one, "South Pacific" and I've had
his book "Mexico" for years now. I've tried to read it several times
but it bores me first out. Maybe someday I'll try it again.

My favorite Michener books are listed 1-3. Favorite one first -

1) Chesapeake
2) Alaska
3) Hawaii

note - I'll bet Dsi1 would enjoy reading "Hawaii" if he hasn't done
so already. All Michener stories are based on real events and
history of the area. He just created fictional characters to
make it more of a cool story.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2017-01-29 8:05 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> >
> >> BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
> >> trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
> >>
> > You have more reading to do - there are SIX books in that series,
> > "Earth's Children".
>
> I thought she had pretty well run out of material by the end of the
> third one.
> >

I agree, Dave. The 3rd one wasn't so good for me so I quit watching out
for more books.

wrote:
>
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:05:45 -0500, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
> >On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> >
> >> BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
> >> trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
> >>
> >You have more reading to do - there are SIX books in that series,
> >"Earth's Children".
>
> I might go there at some point, have you read them, were they as good
> as the Clan of the Cave Bear ?

I was hooked with the first book, "Clan of the Cave Bear."
The second one, "Valley of Horses" was just as good or even
a bit better.
The 3rd one, "Mammoth Hunters?" Was that the name. That one
wasn't quite as good, imo.

As usual, the movie wasn't near as good as the book. The redeeming
feature in the movie was very hot blonde, Darryl Hannah. Oh yeah.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
>> wrote:
>
>> BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
>> trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
>>
>> Back in the 80's, I heard an interview with her right before
>> her first book was released. I was hooked. She wanted it to
>> be as realistic as possible so she traveled north and spent
>> several years researching early man.
>
> I read at least the first two books. I think it was required
> back then.
>
>> So anyway, she wrote fiction based on facts. Same as
>> James Michener did with his books. Both have/had a great talent
>> for story telling. Both great authors, imo.
>
> I'm a big Michener fan. Marvelous epic stories.
>
> nancy


I agree, and even though I did enjoy the earth children books, none of them
come close to JM with writing IMO.

Cheri

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 6:40:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
> >
> > On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> > > So anyway, she wrote fiction based on facts. Same as
> > > James Michener did with his books. Both have/had a great talent
> > > for story telling. Both great authors, imo.
> >
> > I'm a big Michener fan. Marvelous epic stories.
>
> Me too, Nancy. He was one of my favorites and I've read many but not
> all.
>
> I was kind of bored reading his first one, "South Pacific" and I've had
> his book "Mexico" for years now. I've tried to read it several times
> but it bores me first out. Maybe someday I'll try it again.
>
> My favorite Michener books are listed 1-3. Favorite one first -
>
> 1) Chesapeake
> 2) Alaska
> 3) Hawaii
>
> note - I'll bet Dsi1 would enjoy reading "Hawaii" if he hasn't done
> so already. All Michener stories are based on real events and
> history of the area. He just created fictional characters to
> make it more of a cool story.

When I was around 11 years old, our family went to the other side of Oahu to watch an old sailing ship come around the coast. I didn't see much. Mostly I remember the saltair, wind, sun, and the dust blowing about. It took me years to realize they were filming the movie "Hawaii" out there.

I have not read Michener's books. I have heard of his "Golden Men" idea. It is a concept more true today than it was when he wrote his novels about Hawaii. We are figuratively and literally, the mid-point between East and West. The Golden Men will probably be the future of the Human race and it all starts here and travels outwards in opposite directions.

On 1/29/2017 11:39 AM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> On 1/29/2017 7:46 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> So anyway, she wrote fiction based on facts. Same as
>>> James Michener did with his books. Both have/had a great talent
>>> for story telling. Both great authors, imo.
>>
>> I'm a big Michener fan. Marvelous epic stories.
>
> Me too, Nancy. He was one of my favorites and I've read many but not
> all.
>
> I was kind of bored reading his first one, "South Pacific" and I've had
> his book "Mexico" for years now. I've tried to read it several times
> but it bores me first out. Maybe someday I'll try it again.
>
> My favorite Michener books are listed 1-3. Favorite one first -
>
> 1) Chesapeake
> 2) Alaska
> 3) Hawaii
>
> note - I'll bet Dsi1 would enjoy reading "Hawaii" if he hasn't done
> so already. All Michener stories are based on real events and
> history of the area. He just created fictional characters to
> make it more of a cool story.

As soon as I hit send I thought I should have said historical novels.
It's been a very long time since I've read him, I remember The Source
and Iberia. Of course Hawaii and Chesapeake, never read Alaska.

nancy

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 07:46:05 -0500, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >It's impossible to live totally green unless you're a Neanderthal
>> >living ten thousand years ago.
>
>> Nah, those people were lighting smoky fires in their caves, god knows
>> what that did to their lungs.
>
>Well... they're all dead now so that tells you something.
>
>BTW - anyone here ever read the old "Clan of the Cave Bear"
>trilogy by Jean Auel?" (I think that's her name)
>
>Back in the 80's, I heard an interview with her right before
>her first book was released. I was hooked. She wanted it to
>be as realistic as possible so she traveled north and spent
>several years researching early man.
>
>So anyway, she wrote fiction based on facts. Same as
>James Michener did with his books. Both have/had a great talent
>for story telling. Both great authors, imo.

I loved Clan of the Cave Bear, but then again, I really enjoy fiction
books based on fact.

koko

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