On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:59:57 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 5:26:21 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 4:24:50 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >
>> > dsi1 wrote:
>> > >Dave Smith wrote:
>> > >>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives... an all nighter... the only FoodTV I
>> > >> > watch because it's all about real food. I'll fall asleep but I can
>> > >> > catch what I missed another time.
>> > >>
>> > >> And the best part is that you get to watch Guy Fieri unhinge his jaw
>> > >> like a boa constrictor to take a monster sized taste of the goods.
>> > >
>> > >I know a guy that loves Guy. The guy featured his restaurant on his show and my friend cut his hair like Guy's and dyed it. That's goofy as hell but I like that guy. I have no particular feelings about Guy though.
>> >
>> > After reading the replies at this thread I know with absolute
>> > certainty who can't cook a lick and who is chronically afflicted with
>> > TIAD. Who cares about his look, Guy showcases great eateries operated
>> > by peeps who truly know to cook... he's neve claimed to be a great
>> > cook.
>> >
>> >
>> Why get so upset because everybody is not agreeing with your
>> choice of a 'great' (I say that loosely) cook? Just because
>> we think he's a digusting pig is no reason to get all bent out
>> of shape at people here.
>>
>> As far as him 'showcasing great eateries operated by peeps who
>> truly know how to cook' you need to go to some of those places
>> yourself and judge how well these 'peeps' can cook. You might
>> be surprised at how bad some them are and makes you wonder if
>> money was slipped to old Guy to get on TV and rave about them.
>
>The great thing about this rock is that most of the viewers are familiar with the Hawaii eateries he showcases. I don't know how he picks the restaurants for his show but all of the ones I've seen have been well respected places. To be on his show probably bumps up the customers by a significant amount but I don't think the restaurants are paying him to be on.

People who patronize these places get together and send texts, emails,
etc. to recommend that "their" place is one that must be visited. The
producers of the show go (I presume) by volume of input "votes." No
money is exchanged to guarantee a visit. You like your eatery? Give
DD&D a jingle. Some of the "votes" are obviously aimed at supporting
a eatery with a inspirational story (immigration, single woman, mixed
race family, generational place, as well as food appreciated locally)
Most people here don't like any of the Food Network shows or hosts.
The subject comes up regularly.
Janet US

On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 7:53:17 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:59:57 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 5:26:21 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 4:24:50 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > dsi1 wrote:
> >> > >Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > >>Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives... an all nighter... the only FoodTV I
> >> > >> > watch because it's all about real food. I'll fall asleep but I can
> >> > >> > catch what I missed another time.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> And the best part is that you get to watch Guy Fieri unhinge his jaw
> >> > >> like a boa constrictor to take a monster sized taste of the goods..
> >> > >
> >> > >I know a guy that loves Guy. The guy featured his restaurant on his show and my friend cut his hair like Guy's and dyed it. That's goofy as hell but I like that guy. I have no particular feelings about Guy though.
> >> >
> >> > After reading the replies at this thread I know with absolute
> >> > certainty who can't cook a lick and who is chronically afflicted with
> >> > TIAD. Who cares about his look, Guy showcases great eateries operated
> >> > by peeps who truly know to cook... he's neve claimed to be a great
> >> > cook.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Why get so upset because everybody is not agreeing with your
> >> choice of a 'great' (I say that loosely) cook? Just because
> >> we think he's a digusting pig is no reason to get all bent out
> >> of shape at people here.
> >>
> >> As far as him 'showcasing great eateries operated by peeps who
> >> truly know how to cook' you need to go to some of those places
> >> yourself and judge how well these 'peeps' can cook. You might
> >> be surprised at how bad some them are and makes you wonder if
> >> money was slipped to old Guy to get on TV and rave about them.
> >
> >The great thing about this rock is that most of the viewers are familiar with the Hawaii eateries he showcases. I don't know how he picks the restaurants for his show but all of the ones I've seen have been well respected places. To be on his show probably bumps up the customers by a significant amount but I don't think the restaurants are paying him to be on.
>
> People who patronize these places get together and send texts, emails,
> etc. to recommend that "their" place is one that must be visited. The
> producers of the show go (I presume) by volume of input "votes." No
> money is exchanged to guarantee a visit. You like your eatery? Give
> DD&D a jingle. Some of the "votes" are obviously aimed at supporting
> a eatery with a inspirational story (immigration, single woman, mixed
> race family, generational place, as well as food appreciated locally)
> Most people here don't like any of the Food Network shows or hosts.
> The subject comes up regularly.
> Janet US

My point was that we're unique here. We personally know the people that run these restaurants and we actually eat there. My daughter and her boyfriend worked at several of the places featured. One owner came over to my office and helped me clean up when my office got flooded. I love that guy! Most people won't ever get to eat at the restaurants featured in their state. They don't have any emotional connection to the show. I like to watch the segments that feature local eateries - the rest I don't care about because there's no emotional connection.

Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about? That's the attitude of people just waiting around to die.

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 10:27:17 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 7:53:17 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:59:57 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The great thing about this rock is that most of the viewers are familiar with the Hawaii eateries he showcases. I don't know how he picks the restaurants for his show but all of the ones I've seen have been well respected places. To be on his show probably bumps up the customers by a significant amount but I don't think the restaurants are paying him to be on.
>>
>> People who patronize these places get together and send texts, emails,
>> etc. to recommend that "their" place is one that must be visited. The
>> producers of the show go (I presume) by volume of input "votes." No
>> money is exchanged to guarantee a visit. You like your eatery? Give
>> DD&D a jingle. Some of the "votes" are obviously aimed at supporting
>> a eatery with a inspirational story (immigration, single woman, mixed
>> race family, generational place, as well as food appreciated locally)
>> Most people here don't like any of the Food Network shows or hosts.
>> The subject comes up regularly.
>> Janet US
>
>My point was that we're unique here. We personally know the people that run these restaurants and we actually eat there. My daughter and her boyfriend worked at several of the places featured. One owner came over to my office and helped me clean up when my office got flooded. I love that guy!

This isn't unique. It's typical for smaller communities. Maybe it's
unique for you in the sense that you haven't experienced it before.

"dsi1" > wrote in message news:bd6f9935-97ec-41aa-b768-

Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no
surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about? That's
the attitude of people just waiting around to die.

=======

I don't find that to be true of "most" of us, just some of us.

Cheri

On 2/27/2017 1:48 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message news:bd6f9935-97ec-41aa-b768-
>
> Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no
> surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about?
> That's the attitude of people just waiting around to die.
>
> =======
>
> I don't find that to be true of "most" of us, just some of us.
>
> Cheri

I like a lot of things, but watching Guy Fieri shove an sandwich in his
mouth and chew is not one of them.

Jill

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 14:18:27 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 2/27/2017 1:48 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message news:bd6f9935-97ec-41aa-b768-
>>
>> Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no
>> surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about?
>> That's the attitude of people just waiting around to die.
>>
>> =======
>>
>> I don't find that to be true of "most" of us, just some of us.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>I like a lot of things, but watching Guy Fieri shove an sandwich in his
>mouth and chew is not one of them.
>
>Jill

on the whole, that is a popular generalization.

On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bd6f9935-97ec-41aa-b768-
>
> Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no
> surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about? That's
> the attitude of people just waiting around to die.
>
> =======
>
> I don't find that to be true of "most" of us, just some of us.
>
> Cheri

Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's, Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?

On 2/27/2017 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's, Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?
>
No.

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 13:07:12 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bd6f9935-97ec-41aa-b768-
>>
>> Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no
>> surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about? That's
>> the attitude of people just waiting around to die.
>>
>> =======
>>
>> I don't find that to be true of "most" of us, just some of us.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's, Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?

Thumbs up

On 2017-02-27 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's,
> Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy
> Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?
>

Would you go to a lawn and garden group and praise the virtue of dandelions?

On 2017-02-27 3:34 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:41:26 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/2017 5:24 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> After reading the replies at this thread I know with absolute
>>> certainty who can't cook a lick and who is chronically afflicted with
>>> TIAD. Who cares about his look, Guy showcases great eateries operated
>>> by peeps who truly know to cook... he's never claimed to be a great
>>> cook.
>>
>> He did have a cooking show a few years ago. He also won the "Next Food
>> Network Star" and had to do some cooking to win that. Don't know if he
>> is a great cook but he can cook.
>
> He put his name on a line of cheap meat and sausage products sold at
> Walmart that were truly terrible.

Not so embarrassing as a UK celebrity chef's endorsement:

http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/u...ith-a-fork.bmp

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 19:04:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-02-27 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's,
>> Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy
>> Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?
>>
>
>Would you go to a lawn and garden group and praise the virtue of dandelions?

Yes, a lawn full of dandelions looks very good, and you can eat them
too.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bd6f9935-97ec-41aa-b768-
>>
>> Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no
>> surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about?
>> That's
>> the attitude of people just waiting around to die.
>>
>> =======
>>
>> I don't find that to be true of "most" of us, just some of us.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's,
> Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy
> Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?


=======

OK, of the things you listed, I don't like Guy Fieri's show, self-driving
cars for myself, and flying cars.

Cheri

On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 2:04:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-02-27 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's,
> > Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy
> > Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?
> >
>
> Would you go to a lawn and garden group and praise the virtue of dandelions?

Do you think that a lawn and garden group would spend their time bitching and moaning about every little thing that irritates them like TV gardeners and TV shows/networks and plant stores and plants and plant WiFi?

On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 3:15:25 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bd6f9935-97ec-41aa-b768-
> >>
> >> Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no
> >> surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about?
> >> That's
> >> the attitude of people just waiting around to die.
> >>
> >> =======
> >>
> >> I don't find that to be true of "most" of us, just some of us.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's,
> > Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy
> > Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?
>
>
> =======
>
> OK, of the things you listed, I don't like Guy Fieri's show, self-driving
> cars for myself, and flying cars.
>
> Cheri

It might be reasonable to not like some of those things but I ain't saying what.

On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 7:11:14 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 19:04:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
> >
> >Would you go to a lawn and garden group and praise the virtue of dandelions?
>
> Yes, a lawn full of dandelions looks very good, and you can eat them
> too.
>
>
Dandelions look awful in a yard especially when they turn into
those puff ball thingies that float and contaminate yours and
neighors yards.

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 18:57:53 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 7:11:14 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 19:04:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >Would you go to a lawn and garden group and praise the virtue of dandelions?
>>
>> Yes, a lawn full of dandelions looks very good, and you can eat them
>> too.
>>
>>
>Dandelions look awful in a yard especially when they turn into
>those puff ball thingies that float and contaminate yours and
>neighors yards.

Yes, but when they're flowering...

On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 9:34:47 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 18:57:53 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >> Yes, a lawn full of dandelions looks very good, and you can eat them
> >> too.
> >>
> >>
> >Dandelions look awful in a yard especially when they turn into
> >those puff ball thingies that float and contaminate yours and
> >neighors yards.
>
> Yes, but when they're flowering...
>
>
Not even then, at least to me they don't look good or pretty
or whatever. Just a weed that spreads as badly poison ivy.

"graham" wrote in message news
On 2017-02-27 3:34 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:41:26 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/2017 5:24 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> After reading the replies at this thread I know with absolute
>>> certainty who can't cook a lick and who is chronically afflicted with
>>> TIAD. Who cares about his look, Guy showcases great eateries operated
>>> by peeps who truly know to cook... he's never claimed to be a great
>>> cook.
>>
>> He did have a cooking show a few years ago. He also won the "Next Food
>> Network Star" and had to do some cooking to win that. Don't know if he
>> is a great cook but he can cook.
>
> He put his name on a line of cheap meat and sausage products sold at
> Walmart that were truly terrible.

Not so embarrassing as a UK celebrity chef's endorsement:

http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/u...ith-a-fork.bmp

===

LOL that works!


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bd6f9935-97ec-41aa-b768-
>>
>> Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no
>> surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about?
>> That's
>> the attitude of people just waiting around to die.
>>
>> =======
>>
>> I don't find that to be true of "most" of us, just some of us.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's,
> Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy
> Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?


=======

OK, of the things you listed, I don't like Guy Fieri's show, self-driving
cars for myself, and flying cars.

Cheri

====

Oooerrr you're brave ;-)



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 4:07:14 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bd6f9935-97ec-41aa-b768-
> >
> > Most people on this newsgroup don't like a lot of things. That's no
> > surprise, the negativity is strong here. What the heck is that about? That's
> > the attitude of people just waiting around to die.
> >
> > =======
> >
> > I don't find that to be true of "most" of us, just some of us.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's, Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?

Perhaps. I'd go with "and/or" rather than "and".

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 7:04:42 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-02-27 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:48:54 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > Can we at least agree that most people here don't like McDonald's,
> > Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at checkouts, DD&D, Guy
> > Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars, and flying cars?
> >
>
> Would you go to a lawn and garden group and praise the virtue of dandelions?

I like dandelions. They're attractive in bloom, it's amusing to watch
the rabbits eat the stems after they're done blooming, and they're better
than narrow-leaf plantain, although not as desirable as Creeping Charlie.
Much, much better than the three types of thistle that infest my yard.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2017-02-27 9:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 2:04:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-02-27 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>> Can we at least agree that most people here don't like
>>> McDonald's, Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at
>>> checkouts, DD&D, Guy Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars,
>>> and flying cars?

>>>
>>
>> Would you go to a lawn and garden group and praise the virtue of
>> dandelions?
>
> Do you think that a lawn and garden group would spend their time
> bitching and moaning about every little thing that irritates them
> like TV gardeners and TV shows/networks and plant stores and plants
> and plant WiFi?
>

I had no idea that comment would be so difficult for you to understand.

On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 4:29:56 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-02-27 9:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 2:04:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2017-02-27 4:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >>> Can we at least agree that most people here don't like
> >>> McDonald's, Starbucks, Walmart, Hostess Twinkies, waiting at
> >>> checkouts, DD&D, Guy Fieri, Spam, and rice, self-driving cars,
> >>> and flying cars?
>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Would you go to a lawn and garden group and praise the virtue of
> >> dandelions?
> >
> > Do you think that a lawn and garden group would spend their time
> > bitching and moaning about every little thing that irritates them
> > like TV gardeners and TV shows/networks and plant stores and plants
> > and plant WiFi?
> >
>
> I had no idea that comment would be so difficult for you to understand.

I do understand what you're doing. It's called "redirection." I talk of the negativity in this group and you make it all about me - not going to fall for it.

On 2017-02-28 10:47 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 4:29:56 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith

>>>> Would you go to a lawn and garden group and praise the virtue
>>>> of dandelions?
>>>
>>> Do you think that a lawn and garden group would spend their time
>>> bitching and moaning about every little thing that irritates
>>> them like TV gardeners and TV shows/networks and plant stores and
>>> plants and plant WiFi?
>>>
>>
>> I had no idea that comment would be so difficult for you to
>> understand.
>
> I do understand what you're doing. It's called "redirection." I talk
> of the negativity in this group and you make it all about me - not
> going to fall for it.


It's all about you is it?
When I am commenting in reply to something you have said, yes, is may be
to or about you. I did not think that I would need to explain the
comment about praising weeds in a lawn and garden forum. One would
expect that they would be discussing plants and methods, garden care and
wee control, not suggesting the the weeds are a good thing.

Well, speaking for the minority (it seems), I like Guy. I don't watch his shows on a regular
basis but don't find him as annoying as you guys.

I like the baking competitions...a spring one is coming up. The ones with adults feature mostly
professional bakers, altho the winner of the last one was a "home cook." And they may be
heavily edited but they aren't scripted.

The kids' baking competitions feature some really sophisticated pre-teen bakers. The hosts
are Duff Goldman and Valerie Bertinelli, and they are super at interacting with the kids.

I also like the PBS shows, but our PBS market doesn't show very many; however, I can watch
them online very easily, even the Master Classes. I think it is really too bad that Mary Berry's
left hand is so affected by arthritis; I think Jacques Pepin also has some arthritis showing in
his hands. It would be very hard for a TV personality to suffer those effects.

N.

On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 14:56:56 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Well, speaking for the minority (it seems), I like Guy. I don't watch his shows on a regular
>basis but don't find him as annoying as you guys.
>
>I like the baking competitions...a spring one is coming up. The ones with adults feature mostly
>professional bakers, altho the winner of the last one was a "home cook." And they may be
>heavily edited but they aren't scripted.
>
>The kids' baking competitions feature some really sophisticated pre-teen bakers. The hosts
>are Duff Goldman and Valerie Bertinelli, and they are super at interacting with the kids.
>
>I also like the PBS shows, but our PBS market doesn't show very many; however, I can watch
>them online very easily, even the Master Classes. I think it is really too bad that Mary Berry's
>left hand is so affected by arthritis; I think Jacques Pepin also has some arthritis showing in
>his hands. It would be very hard for a TV personality to suffer those effects.
>
>N.

This is the baking competition that I miss seeing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupe_...la_Boulangerie
Food Network carried it for a number of year. To me, the competitions
were fascinating to watch. I cant remember how many days completed
the competition. The U.S. won a number of years in a row for classic
batard.
Janet US

Yes, US Janet, I remember those competitions well. PBS used to carry
some shows, too, that featured internationally-known chefs demonstrating
their various skills. It is sad that the Food Network has dumbed down so much.
But, like the network says, it is about "entertainment," not necessarily only
cooking and baking.

N.

On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 05:24:37 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Yes, US Janet, I remember those competitions well. PBS used to carry
>some shows, too, that featured internationally-known chefs demonstrating
>their various skills. It is sad that the Food Network has dumbed down so much.
>But, like the network says, it is about "entertainment," not necessarily only
>cooking and baking.
>
>N.

and the entertainment is not all that entertaining

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 05:24:37 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> > wrote:
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>>Yes, US Janet, I remember those competitions well. PBS used to carry
>>some shows, too, that featured internationally-known chefs demonstrating
>>their various skills. It is sad that the Food Network has dumbed down so
>>much.
>>But, like the network says, it is about "entertainment," not necessarily
>>only
>>cooking and baking.
>>
>>N.
>
> and the entertainment is not all that entertaining


+10,000

Cheri