On 3/15/2017 5:43 PM, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 10:13:56 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> I've had farmed catfish and it was OK. Not my first choice, but if
>>> served, I'll eat it. Tilapia eats crap too so I avoid it.
>>
>> We actually hate tilapia in Hawaii but the times they are a changin.
>
> Do either of you fellows like crab or lobster? Both are bottom
> scavengers and often feed on dead things. They eat crap.
>

My wife likes lobster but it does nothing for me, especially at the
price. I used to eat blue crabs once in a while but have not had any
for probably 30 years.

notbob wrote:
>
> Nothing I've tried helps talapia. Basically, talapia is jes a crappy
> fish. 8|

I've only tried tilapia once and I recall that it seemed like a
flavorless fish....ie - easily to manipulate into a good tasting
dish....just like chicken breast meat..

My one time, I put the very thin mayo glaze on it, pile of minced onions
and a squeeze of lemon then broiled it. It was very tasty to me. I have
no problem with it.

Other fish...I have almost no experience with fresh water fish other
than rainbow trout (sardine size) from a stream one time. Other than
that, all fish I've eaten are sal****er fish and I like them all.

I used to fish often as a young fellow. Basically catch and release as
this was in the Potomac River just east of Washington DC. Fun to catch
but you didn't dare eat those fish in the highly polluted waters.
Occasionally I would catch a catfish. Creepy things (no scales, etc). I
hated to touch them even to remove the hook from their mouths. The other
annoying occasional catch was eels. Oh man. Creepy! hahaha

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Last summer we went to a Mexican restaurant and I wanted to go for the
> healthier option of the fish dish. I had reservations about the fish
> being talapia. I went ahead and ordered it. I can't say that it was
> disappointing because it was talapia, and it was just as bad as I feared
> it would be.

Only based on my one experience with tilapia (store bought)....I had no
problem. To me is was just a bland fish that needed seasoning.

On Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 10:43:09 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 10:13:56 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > I've had farmed catfish and it was OK. Not my first choice, but if
> > > served, I'll eat it. Tilapia eats crap too so I avoid it.
> >
> > We actually hate tilapia in Hawaii but the times they are a changin.
>
> Do either of you fellows like crab or lobster? Both are bottom
> scavengers and often feed on dead things. They eat crap.

The reason we hate the tilapia has little to do with the taste. Tilapia is found everywhere in stinkin' waters and they have taken over our overland waterways, displacing our native species. The very idea of eating one of these nasty, dirty, fishes is revolving. That said, I wholeheartedly encourage people on the mainland to eat tilapia because they're a wonderfully sustainable fish and because the only good tilapia is a dead tilapia.

dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 10:13:56 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > I've had farmed catfish and it was OK. Not my first choice, but if
> > served, I'll eat it. Tilapia eats crap too so I avoid it.
>
> We actually hate tilapia in Hawaii but the times they are a changin.

Do either of you fellows like crab or lobster? Both are bottom
scavengers and often feed on dead things. They eat crap.

On 2017-03-15 5:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 10:43:09 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>
>> Do either of you fellows like crab or lobster? Both are bottom
>> scavengers and often feed on dead things. They eat crap.
>
> The reason we hate the tilapia has little to do with the taste.
> Tilapia is found everywhere in stinkin' waters and they have taken
> over our overland waterways, displacing our native species. The very
> idea of eating one of these nasty, dirty, fishes is revolving. That
> said, I wholeheartedly encourage people on the mainland to eat
> tilapia because they're a wonderfully sustainable fish and because
> the only good tilapia is a dead tilapia.
>


Some people like it. I don't. As I said in another post, I tried a dish
in a Mexican restaurant with some trepidation because the fish was
talapia. I had low enough expectations that I was not disappointed by
the taste and texture. It was pretty much as bad as I had expected it to
be. I had previously considered getting some frozen fish tacos but
opted not to because it was talapia. Since that time I have been to one
of my favourite restaurants and considered getting their Thai fish dish.
It used to be made with white fish but they had changed talapia so I
opted for something else.

If it is as invasive as you say and they need help to exterminate it
they can start giving it away. I don't hate it enough to never eat it.
I just don't want to pay for fish like that.

On 15 Mar 2017 18:31:32 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-03-15, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> He get rainbow trout or steelhead a couple times a month. It never
>> tastes muddy.
>
>You've obviously never had hatchery-raised rainbow trout. They taste
>muddy. Even hatchery-raised trout put into a high mountain stream
>will taste muddy fer a couple weeks. Then they begin to clean up.
>
>nb

you and I obviously do no have the same taste buds
I was going to recommend farmed rainbow trout because I love them as
well.
Janet US

On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:46:13 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-03-15 2:31 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2017-03-15, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> He get rainbow trout or steelhead a couple times a month. It never
>>> tastes muddy.
>>
>> You've obviously never had hatchery-raised rainbow trout. They taste
>> muddy. Even hatchery-raised trout put into a high mountain stream
>> will taste muddy fer a couple weeks. Then they begin to clean up.
>>
>
>What is obvious about that? The rainbow and steelhead that he get is
>delicious and not at all muddy tasting. I remember many years ago there
>used to be small whole rainbow trout from Idaho. That stuff tended to be
>muddy tasting.

I don't think so, just the opposite
Janet US

On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:31:46 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
> wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 6:11:57 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> > On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 13:43:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 4:19:48 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>> > >> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 03:30:22 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Water quality in the Mekong delta. Pretty polluted.
>> > >>
>> > >> Pollution in the Mississippi delta is worse than in the Mekong's and
>> > >> Ganges (Sunderbans delta). So why pay the premium for muddy-tasting
>> > >> American catfish when imported basa tastes better for half the price?
>> > >>
>> > >> -sw
>> > >
>> > >I don't eat any freshwater fish. They all, always, taste like mud
>> > >to me.
>> >
>> > When's the last time you had freshwater fish?
>>
>> Can't recall. I live in Michigan. There's abundant freshwater fish
>> from warm(ish) and cold waters.
>
>
>Have you ever attended a "fish boil"? It's a Wisconsin (Door County) thang, maybe you've encountered them in Michigan.
>
>As for catfish, I remember muddy catfish from my childhood, catfish was a staple along the Mississippi and it's tributaries. Now, catfish is farm - raised, and thus has a "cleaner" taste. But a lot of this farmed catfish is now I understand from Asia, sooooo...

the catfish boil is the greatest. are you saying they taste muddy
with all that salt, onion and potatoes?
Janet US

On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:15:05 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 1:31:49 PM UTC-4, The Greatest! wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 6:11:57 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> > > On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 13:43:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 4:19:48 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>> > > >> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 03:30:22 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > Water quality in the Mekong delta. Pretty polluted.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Pollution in the Mississippi delta is worse than in the Mekong's and
>> > > >> Ganges (Sunderbans delta). So why pay the premium for muddy-tasting
>> > > >> American catfish when imported basa tastes better for half the price?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -sw
>> > > >
>> > > >I don't eat any freshwater fish. They all, always, taste like mud
>> > > >to me.
>> > >
>> > > When's the last time you had freshwater fish?
>> >
>> > Can't recall. I live in Michigan. There's abundant freshwater fish
>> > from warm(ish) and cold waters.
>>
>>
>> Have you ever attended a "fish boil"? It's a Wisconsin (Door County) thang, maybe you've encountered them in Michigan.
>
>Nope. I'm a city girl, from the land of the Coney Dog. Nowadays, I prefer
>my fish barely cooked (if at all). That's another reason for me to shy
>away from freshwater fish: they have a lot more parasites that can harm me.
>
>> As for catfish, I remember muddy catfish from my childhood, catfish was a staple along the Mississippi and it's tributaries. Now, catfish is farm - raised, and thus has a "cleaner" taste. But a lot of this farmed catfish is now I understand from Asia, sooooo...
>
>Must be like tasting cilantro. If you're a mud-taster, no freshwater
>fish will be good. The last catfish I had was in Thibodeaux, LA, in
>1989, in a restaurant. I had a head cold, and it still tasted like
>I was eating mud.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I was just going to suggest the cilantro conundrum as a possible
answer.
Janet US

On 3/15/2017 1:31 PM, The Greatest! wrote:

> As for catfish, I remember muddy catfish from my childhood,
> catfish was a staple along the Mississippi and it's tributaries.

I just caught a glimpse of a giant catfish on some show, I think
they were on the Amazon.

It was big, but what was scary ... it growled like a dog. Loud.
Not sure if the ones you grew up with growled.

nancy

On 3/17/2017 9:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 3/15/2017 1:31 PM, The Greatest! wrote:
>
>> As for catfish, I remember muddy catfish from my childhood,
> > catfish was a staple along the Mississippi and it's tributaries.
>
> I just caught a glimpse of a giant catfish on some show, I think
> they were on the Amazon.
>
> It was big, but what was scary ... it growled like a dog. Loud.
> Not sure if the ones you grew up with growled.
>
> nancy
>
>
I never heard a catfish growl. We did have a big dog (part German
shepherd) in Thailand and there was a catfish in the pond in our yard.
That catfish was a bold one. It used to tease the big barking dog
unmercifully. Nip it on the nose, even!

The dog did finally win. You can only tease a dog for so long before it
will finally jump into the shallow pond and eat the fish.

Jill

On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:53:28 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/17/2017 9:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 3/15/2017 1:31 PM, The Greatest! wrote:
>>
>>> As for catfish, I remember muddy catfish from my childhood,
>> > catfish was a staple along the Mississippi and it's tributaries.
>>
>> I just caught a glimpse of a giant catfish on some show, I think
>> they were on the Amazon.
>>
>> It was big, but what was scary ... it growled like a dog. Loud.
>> Not sure if the ones you grew up with growled.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>>
>I never heard a catfish growl. We did have a big dog (part German
>shepherd) in Thailand and there was a catfish in the pond in our yard.
>That catfish was a bold one. It used to tease the big barking dog
>unmercifully. Nip it on the nose, even!
>
>The dog did finally win. You can only tease a dog for so long before it
>will finally jump into the shallow pond and eat the fish.
>
>Jill

yeah they growl.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> >I never heard a catfish growl.
>
> yeah they growl.

Here, we have one variety of sal****er fish called, "Croaker." Name is
appropriate because they do make a croaking sound when caught.