On 3/10/2017 12:56 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> When my family moved in 1950, my mother bought a bureau for my brother
> and I in our new bedroom. I refinished it a few years back but it looks
> like new with a hand rubbed finish. I still use it every day. The
> bedroom set my grandmother bought us when we got married in 1966 is
> still looking good. Quality furniture with traditional styles can last
> centuries.

My father's parents bought some nice furniture early in the 1900s -
still beautiful and useful today. The chair has been reupholstered a
couple of times, once by my mother's father, and once by me.

congratulations KenK

82 is not bad - for starters

do your homework, like you seem to be doing, and that's about all you can do

marc

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 3/9/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It'll probably be awhile before we get another one. We don't have
> > > time or the energy to go get a new bed. The old one is smelling bad
> > > because of the blood. I have to run the fan on the mattress during
> > > the day to dry it out. It's kind of horrible.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Ours came with a mattress protector and they are available separately.
> > Goes on like a fitted sheet but is some sort of waterproof material.
> >
> > We got new beds about 2 years ago. Twins pushed togther like a king and
> > they also can be adjusted to sit up. Gret if you read of watch TV in
> > bed.
>
> I believe my son and wife stripped the bed of whatever was under the
> sheets
> and threw it away. I didn't look at the mattress but they say it's not
> good.
> I like your setup.
>
> ====
>
> To be precise we bought two large singles that are made to fit together,
> (but they don't adjust to sit up). Otherwise they are treated as a normal
> Extra King Size bed.

An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough sleep.
It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up, I'll turn
on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00 or later. This
morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.

==

I don't get a lot of sleep these days but I put that down to age. I suspect
yours is due to worry.

I do sleep better now that I am not disturbed when hubby moves around or
gets up in the night, so the new arrangement has been very worthwhile.



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...

On 3/10/2017 12:56 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> When my family moved in 1950, my mother bought a bureau for my brother
> and I in our new bedroom. I refinished it a few years back but it looks
> like new with a hand rubbed finish. I still use it every day. The
> bedroom set my grandmother bought us when we got married in 1966 is
> still looking good. Quality furniture with traditional styles can last
> centuries.

My father's parents bought some nice furniture early in the 1900s -
still beautiful and useful today. The chair has been reupholstered a
couple of times, once by my mother's father, and once by me.

===

Yes, those things are very precious I have a few myself

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 12:13:37 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 3/9/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It'll probably be awhile before we get another one. We don't have
> > > > time or the energy to go get a new bed. The old one is smelling bad
> > > > because of the blood. I have to run the fan on the mattress during
> > > > the day to dry it out. It's kind of horrible.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ours came with a mattress protector and they are available separately.
> > > Goes on like a fitted sheet but is some sort of waterproof material.
> > >
> > > We got new beds about 2 years ago. Twins pushed togther like a king and
> > > they also can be adjusted to sit up. Gret if you read of watch TV in
> > > bed.
> >
> > I believe my son and wife stripped the bed of whatever was under the
> > sheets
> > and threw it away. I didn't look at the mattress but they say it's not
> > good.
> > I like your setup.
> >
> > ====
> >
> > To be precise we bought two large singles that are made to fit together,
> > (but they don't adjust to sit up). Otherwise they are treated as a normal
> > Extra King Size bed.
>
> An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough sleep.
> It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up, I'll turn
> on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00 or later. This
> morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.
>
> ==
>
> I don't get a lot of sleep these days but I put that down to age. I suspect
> yours is due to worry.
>
> I do sleep better now that I am not disturbed when hubby moves around or
> gets up in the night, so the new arrangement has been very worthwhile.
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

These days, I really enjoy sleeping. I will consider the 2 bed setup if we ever do get a new bed. The advent of self-driving cars will afford me greater opportunity to snooze. After a lifetime of driving others, it's going to be most wonderful.

I saw a program on Sterling castle yesterday. It covered the history of Sterling from Alexander I to James VI. What a jewel that is for the Scots. It's simply amazing!

The Forth Road Bridge will look curiously familiar to Americans. My suggestion is that you guys change the name to something that's doesn't have the word "Forth" in it because it's way too confusing for us yanks. "Golden Gate" would be suitable.

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, KenK wrote:

> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain I've
> had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power pills.
>
> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread. tortillas,
> etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial sweeteners. Very few
> oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very good. Looks like no more
> prepared foods - home cooking for this very bad cook.
>
> I'm sure to love this new diet.

what's with the "very few oils" thing?
My impression was that the nutritionists have backed off a little on
oils/fats, now sorting them into "good fats" and "bad fats", but I don't
see the old "low fat" thing being recommended any more.

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017, dsi1 wrote:

> On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 3/9/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It'll probably be awhile before we get another one. We don't have
>>>> time or the energy to go get a new bed. The old one is smelling bad
>>>> because of the blood. I have to run the fan on the mattress during
>>>> the day to dry it out. It's kind of horrible.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ours came with a mattress protector and they are available separately.
>>> Goes on like a fitted sheet but is some sort of waterproof material.
>>>
>>> We got new beds about 2 years ago. Twins pushed togther like a king and
>>> they also can be adjusted to sit up. Gret if you read of watch TV in bed.
>>
>> I believe my son and wife stripped the bed of whatever was under the sheets
>> and threw it away. I didn't look at the mattress but they say it's not good.
>> I like your setup.
>>
>> ====
>>
>> To be precise we bought two large singles that are made to fit together,
>> (but they don't adjust to sit up). Otherwise they are treated as a normal
>> Extra King Size bed.
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough
> sleep. It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up,
> I'll turn on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00
> or later. This morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.
>

Ack. Don't do that! You don't need to know what time it is!
As someone who's occasionally battled insomnia and shortened sleep times,
I can say that looking at the clock/time is the worst thing to do. Better
not to know, so you're not preoccupied with how late or early it is, and
how much or little sleep you've had so far, or how much is left.

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2017-03-10 6:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 4:56:05 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> How many beds do people buy in a lifetime? Not many. How many more will we
>>> get to buy before we die? I hope to buy at least one more.
>>
>> I've bought more beds than cars. I spend a lot more time in beds than
>> cars and they're a lot cheaper than cars. I can get 10 or 15 years
>> out of a car, but barely more than 5 out of a bed.
>>
>
>
> Really? We got a good mattress when we got married and it lasted almost 30
> years before we replaced it. We bought a new one and I did not like it
> because any time one of us moved the other felt it. We had only had it for a
> year or two when my mother died and we took her almost new mattress and 10
> years later it is still nice and comfortable. The other was relegated first
> to the spare room and now our son has it.

I don't think they make mattresses to last as long as they used to.
I bought a full mattress in the 1980's, and replaced it about 25 years
later. My current mattress is probably 10-15 years old, and it's really
ready to go. I think I will spring for a Queen sized this time!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 12:13:37 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 3/9/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It'll probably be awhile before we get another one. We don't have
> > > > time or the energy to go get a new bed. The old one is smelling bad
> > > > because of the blood. I have to run the fan on the mattress during
> > > > the day to dry it out. It's kind of horrible.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ours came with a mattress protector and they are available separately.
> > > Goes on like a fitted sheet but is some sort of waterproof material.
> > >
> > > We got new beds about 2 years ago. Twins pushed togther like a king
> > > and
> > > they also can be adjusted to sit up. Gret if you read of watch TV in
> > > bed.
> >
> > I believe my son and wife stripped the bed of whatever was under the
> > sheets
> > and threw it away. I didn't look at the mattress but they say it's not
> > good.
> > I like your setup.
> >
> > ====
> >
> > To be precise we bought two large singles that are made to fit together,
> > (but they don't adjust to sit up). Otherwise they are treated as a
> > normal
> > Extra King Size bed.
>
> An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough
> sleep.
> It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up, I'll turn
> on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00 or later.
> This
> morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.
>
> ==
>
> I don't get a lot of sleep these days but I put that down to age. I
> suspect
> yours is due to worry.
>
> I do sleep better now that I am not disturbed when hubby moves around or
> gets up in the night, so the new arrangement has been very worthwhile.
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

These days, I really enjoy sleeping. I will consider the 2 bed setup if we
ever do get a new bed. The advent of self-driving cars will afford me
greater opportunity to snooze. After a lifetime of driving others, it's
going to be most wonderful.

I saw a program on Sterling castle yesterday. It covered the history of
Sterling from Alexander I to James VI. What a jewel that is for the Scots.
It's simply amazing!

The Forth Road Bridge will look curiously familiar to Americans. My
suggestion is that you guys change the name to something that's doesn't have
the word "Forth" in it because it's way too confusing for us yanks. "Golden
Gate" would be suitable.

====

I'll have a word ... <g> Incidentally that is Stirling castle I take it
you haven't come across the Firth of Forth yet?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firth_of_Forth

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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"barbie gee" wrote in message
hcrg.pbz...



On Fri, 10 Mar 2017, dsi1 wrote:

> On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 3/9/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It'll probably be awhile before we get another one. We don't have
>>>> time or the energy to go get a new bed. The old one is smelling bad
>>>> because of the blood. I have to run the fan on the mattress during
>>>> the day to dry it out. It's kind of horrible.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ours came with a mattress protector and they are available separately.
>>> Goes on like a fitted sheet but is some sort of waterproof material.
>>>
>>> We got new beds about 2 years ago. Twins pushed togther like a king and
>>> they also can be adjusted to sit up. Gret if you read of watch TV in
>>> bed.
>>
>> I believe my son and wife stripped the bed of whatever was under the
>> sheets
>> and threw it away. I didn't look at the mattress but they say it's not
>> good.
>> I like your setup.
>>
>> ====
>>
>> To be precise we bought two large singles that are made to fit together,
>> (but they don't adjust to sit up). Otherwise they are treated as a
>> normal
>> Extra King Size bed.
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough
> sleep. It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up,
> I'll turn on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00 or
> later. This morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.
>

Ack. Don't do that! You don't need to know what time it is!
As someone who's occasionally battled insomnia and shortened sleep times,
I can say that looking at the clock/time is the worst thing to do. Better
not to know, so you're not preoccupied with how late or early it is, and
how much or little sleep you've had so far, or how much is left.

====

Oh dear... I do that Incidentally how did you get over your insomnia??



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 2017-03-10 11:01 PM, barbie gee wrote:


> Ack. Don't do that! You don't need to know what time it is!
> As someone who's occasionally battled insomnia and shortened sleep
> times, I can say that looking at the clock/time is the worst thing to
> do. Better not to know, so you're not preoccupied with how late or
> early it is, and how much or little sleep you've had so far, or how much
> is left.

i can remember spending m any restless nights, fretting about being
unable to sleep and having to get up early to go to work. Somewhere
along the line I came to realize that, no matter how much I tossed and
turned, it was unlikely that I was actually awake the whole night. I
stopped worrying about it and stopped looking at the clock. I would end
up falling asleep.

On 3/9/2017 4:15 PM, Gary wrote:
> last mattress purchase seemed so much better but it turned
> out that the old one we got rid of was better. Not only that,
> we got suckered into buying the more expensive fabric
> covering. Same mattress came with a lousy looking cloth
> fabric or for $100 more, we chose the beautiful silk looking
> mattress. Problem is that your mattress is always hidden
> with sheets. The shiny looking mattress that we paid extra
> for is slippery and sheets often pull off the corners
> within a couple of days.

Slppery? Put a mattress pad on the mattress. I also use something akin
to garters to secure the bottom sheet in the corners. Back in the day,
they didn't have fitted sheets. They used those little garter-like
things to keep the bottom shet in place. Even I remmember those things.
And use them. Because the elastic on modern day bottom sheets pretty
muc sucks. They don't stay tucked in... unless you use the elastic
stuff from the 1900's. LOL

Jill

barbie gee > wrote in
hcrg.pbz:

>
>
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, KenK wrote:
>
>> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain
>> I've had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power pills.
>>
>> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread.
>> tortillas, etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial
>> sweeteners. Very few oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very
>> good. Looks like no more prepared foods - home cooking for this very
>> bad cook.
>>
>> I'm sure to love this new diet.
>
> what's with the "very few oils" thing?
> My impression was that the nutritionists have backed off a little on
> oils/fats, now sorting them into "good fats" and "bad fats", but I
> don't see the old "low fat" thing being recommended any more.
>

In the list the doctor gave me:

Forbidden: Shortening, margarine, peanut oil, cashew oil, hydrogenated
oils, mayonnaise, spreads, & canola oil.

Allowed: Cold expressed olive, flax, safflower, sunflower, sesame,
walnut, pumpkin, & coconut oil.

I'll probably use olive oil.



--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

KenK wrote:
> tert in seattle > wrote in
> :
>
>> KenK wrote:

>>>>> I'm sure to love this new diet.
>>>>>
>>>> Is he a real doctor, i.e., an MD?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, arthritis specialist MD. I was referred to him by my MD for
>>> possible rheumatoid arthritis.
>>
>> Here's waht they say at Johns Hopkins -- my summary is, you need to
>> do trial and error to figure out which foods you are sensitive to,
>> and there aren't many studies to back up even this claim.
>>
>> <https://www.hopkinsarthritis.org/pat...management/rhe
>> umatoid-arthrtis-nutrition/>

[snip]

>
> That's why I made this plan yesterday - pretty much as in the material
> you supplied:
>
> Current meds clearing up pain.
>
> I'm putting aside all anti-diet stuff so it does not tempt me - both
> opened and unopened packages. Stuff in refrig set aside in a plastic bag
> in a produce bin. Not discarding anything or donating it yet. So far
> about $500 worth of stuff in that group - I generally bought stuff before
> the stuff it replaced ran out.
>
> Once I get really into this diet I will add those things one at a time
> and see if they cause problems. If it does, it goes.


THERE ya go!

good luck and hope you feel better, Ken

On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 6:10:04 PM UTC-10, barbie gee wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2017, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>> On 3/9/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It'll probably be awhile before we get another one. We don't have
> >>>> time or the energy to go get a new bed. The old one is smelling bad
> >>>> because of the blood. I have to run the fan on the mattress during
> >>>> the day to dry it out. It's kind of horrible.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ours came with a mattress protector and they are available separately.
> >>> Goes on like a fitted sheet but is some sort of waterproof material.
> >>>
> >>> We got new beds about 2 years ago. Twins pushed togther like a king and
> >>> they also can be adjusted to sit up. Gret if you read of watch TV in bed.
> >>
> >> I believe my son and wife stripped the bed of whatever was under the sheets
> >> and threw it away. I didn't look at the mattress but they say it's not good.
> >> I like your setup.
> >>
> >> ====
> >>
> >> To be precise we bought two large singles that are made to fit together,
> >> (but they don't adjust to sit up). Otherwise they are treated as a normal
> >> Extra King Size bed.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough
> > sleep. It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up,
> > I'll turn on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00
> > or later. This morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.
> >
>
> Ack. Don't do that! You don't need to know what time it is!
> As someone who's occasionally battled insomnia and shortened sleep times,
> I can say that looking at the clock/time is the worst thing to do. Better
> not to know, so you're not preoccupied with how late or early it is, and
> how much or little sleep you've had so far, or how much is left.

I know what you mean, I'll try to avoid looking but sometimes you just have to know!

On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 10:33:26 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 12:13:37 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > On 3/9/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It'll probably be awhile before we get another one. We don't have
> > > > > time or the energy to go get a new bed. The old one is smelling bad
> > > > > because of the blood. I have to run the fan on the mattress during
> > > > > the day to dry it out. It's kind of horrible.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ours came with a mattress protector and they are available separately.
> > > > Goes on like a fitted sheet but is some sort of waterproof material.
> > > >
> > > > We got new beds about 2 years ago. Twins pushed togther like a king
> > > > and
> > > > they also can be adjusted to sit up. Gret if you read of watch TV in
> > > > bed.
> > >
> > > I believe my son and wife stripped the bed of whatever was under the
> > > sheets
> > > and threw it away. I didn't look at the mattress but they say it's not
> > > good.
> > > I like your setup.
> > >
> > > ====
> > >
> > > To be precise we bought two large singles that are made to fit together,
> > > (but they don't adjust to sit up). Otherwise they are treated as a
> > > normal
> > > Extra King Size bed.
> >
> > An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough
> > sleep.
> > It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up, I'll turn
> > on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00 or later.
> > This
> > morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > I don't get a lot of sleep these days but I put that down to age. I
> > suspect
> > yours is due to worry.
> >
> > I do sleep better now that I am not disturbed when hubby moves around or
> > gets up in the night, so the new arrangement has been very worthwhile.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> These days, I really enjoy sleeping. I will consider the 2 bed setup if we
> ever do get a new bed. The advent of self-driving cars will afford me
> greater opportunity to snooze. After a lifetime of driving others, it's
> going to be most wonderful.
>
> I saw a program on Sterling castle yesterday. It covered the history of
> Sterling from Alexander I to James VI. What a jewel that is for the Scots.
> It's simply amazing!
>
> The Forth Road Bridge will look curiously familiar to Americans. My
> suggestion is that you guys change the name to something that's doesn't have
> the word "Forth" in it because it's way too confusing for us yanks. "Golden
> Gate" would be suitable.
>
> ====
>
> I'll have a word ... <g> Incidentally that is Stirling castle I take it
> you haven't come across the Firth of Forth yet?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firth_of_Forth
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Oops, that's right - Stirling! "Sterling" is just plain goofy! The Firth of Forth sounds funny, although not as funny as the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 10:33:26 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 12:13:37 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 2:17:11 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > On 3/9/2017 5:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It'll probably be awhile before we get another one. We don't have
> > > > > time or the energy to go get a new bed. The old one is smelling
> > > > > bad
> > > > > because of the blood. I have to run the fan on the mattress during
> > > > > the day to dry it out. It's kind of horrible.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ours came with a mattress protector and they are available
> > > > separately.
> > > > Goes on like a fitted sheet but is some sort of waterproof material.
> > > >
> > > > We got new beds about 2 years ago. Twins pushed togther like a king
> > > > and
> > > > they also can be adjusted to sit up. Gret if you read of watch TV
> > > > in
> > > > bed.
> > >
> > > I believe my son and wife stripped the bed of whatever was under the
> > > sheets
> > > and threw it away. I didn't look at the mattress but they say it's not
> > > good.
> > > I like your setup.
> > >
> > > ====
> > >
> > > To be precise we bought two large singles that are made to fit
> > > together,
> > > (but they don't adjust to sit up). Otherwise they are treated as a
> > > normal
> > > Extra King Size bed.
> >
> > An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough
> > sleep.
> > It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up, I'll
> > turn
> > on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00 or later.
> > This
> > morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > I don't get a lot of sleep these days but I put that down to age. I
> > suspect
> > yours is due to worry.
> >
> > I do sleep better now that I am not disturbed when hubby moves around or
> > gets up in the night, so the new arrangement has been very worthwhile.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> These days, I really enjoy sleeping. I will consider the 2 bed setup if we
> ever do get a new bed. The advent of self-driving cars will afford me
> greater opportunity to snooze. After a lifetime of driving others, it's
> going to be most wonderful.
>
> I saw a program on Sterling castle yesterday. It covered the history of
> Sterling from Alexander I to James VI. What a jewel that is for the Scots.
> It's simply amazing!
>
> The Forth Road Bridge will look curiously familiar to Americans. My
> suggestion is that you guys change the name to something that's doesn't
> have
> the word "Forth" in it because it's way too confusing for us yanks.
> "Golden
> Gate" would be suitable.
>
> ====
>
> I'll have a word ... <g> Incidentally that is Stirling castle I take
> it
> you haven't come across the Firth of Forth yet?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firth_of_Forth
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Oops, that's right - Stirling! "Sterling" is just plain goofy! The Firth of
Forth sounds funny, although not as funny as the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

==

*cough* that is new to me .... ;-)

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 10:42:15 AM UTC-7, KenK wrote:
> barbie gee > wrote in
> hcrg.pbz:
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, KenK wrote:
> >
> >> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain
> >> I've had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power pills.
> >>
> >> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread.
> >> tortillas, etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial
> >> sweeteners. Very few oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very
> >> good. Looks like no more prepared foods - home cooking for this very
> >> bad cook.
> >>
> >> I'm sure to love this new diet.
> >
> > what's with the "very few oils" thing?
> > My impression was that the nutritionists have backed off a little on
> > oils/fats, now sorting them into "good fats" and "bad fats", but I
> > don't see the old "low fat" thing being recommended any more.
> >
>
> In the list the doctor gave me:
>
> Forbidden: Shortening, margarine, peanut oil, cashew oil, hydrogenated
> oils, mayonnaise, spreads, & canola oil.
>
> Allowed: Cold expressed olive, flax, safflower, sunflower, sesame,
> walnut, pumpkin, & coconut oil.
>
> I'll probably use olive oil.
>
>
>
> --
> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

Your doctor is a freakin' quack IMHO.

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 12:24:55 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 10:42:15 AM UTC-7, KenK wrote:
>> barbie gee > wrote in
>> hcrg.pbz:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, KenK wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain
>> >> I've had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power pills.
>> >>
>> >> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread.
>> >> tortillas, etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial
>> >> sweeteners. Very few oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very
>> >> good. Looks like no more prepared foods - home cooking for this very
>> >> bad cook.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure to love this new diet.
>> >
>> > what's with the "very few oils" thing?
>> > My impression was that the nutritionists have backed off a little on
>> > oils/fats, now sorting them into "good fats" and "bad fats", but I
>> > don't see the old "low fat" thing being recommended any more.
>> >
>>
>> In the list the doctor gave me:
>>
>> Forbidden: Shortening, margarine, peanut oil, cashew oil, hydrogenated
>> oils, mayonnaise, spreads, & canola oil.
>>
>> Allowed: Cold expressed olive, flax, safflower, sunflower, sesame,
>> walnut, pumpkin, & coconut oil.
>>
>> I'll probably use olive oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>
>Your doctor is a freakin' quack IMHO.

Yeah, Dr Roy from rfc is a much more reliable source of medical
information.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 10:42:15 AM UTC-7, KenK wrote:
>> barbie gee > wrote in
>> hcrg.pbz:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, KenK wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain
>> >> I've had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power pills.
>> >>
>> >> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread.
>> >> tortillas, etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial
>> >> sweeteners. Very few oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very
>> >> good. Looks like no more prepared foods - home cooking for this very
>> >> bad cook.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure to love this new diet.
>> >
>> > what's with the "very few oils" thing?
>> > My impression was that the nutritionists have backed off a little on
>> > oils/fats, now sorting them into "good fats" and "bad fats", but I
>> > don't see the old "low fat" thing being recommended any more.
>> >
>>
>> In the list the doctor gave me:
>>
>> Forbidden: Shortening, margarine, peanut oil, cashew oil, hydrogenated
>> oils, mayonnaise, spreads, & canola oil.
>>
>> Allowed: Cold expressed olive, flax, safflower, sunflower, sesame,
>> walnut, pumpkin, & coconut oil.
>>
>> I'll probably use olive oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>
> Your doctor is a freakin' quack IMHO.



How so?

Cheri

On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 1:48:23 PM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 10:42:15 AM UTC-7, KenK wrote:
> >> barbie gee > wrote in
> >> hcrg.pbz:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, KenK wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain
> >> >> I've had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power pills.
> >> >>
> >> >> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread.
> >> >> tortillas, etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial
> >> >> sweeteners. Very few oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very
> >> >> good. Looks like no more prepared foods - home cooking for this very
> >> >> bad cook.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm sure to love this new diet.
> >> >
> >> > what's with the "very few oils" thing?
> >> > My impression was that the nutritionists have backed off a little on
> >> > oils/fats, now sorting them into "good fats" and "bad fats", but I
> >> > don't see the old "low fat" thing being recommended any more.
> >> >
> >>
> >> In the list the doctor gave me:
> >>
> >> Forbidden: Shortening, margarine, peanut oil, cashew oil, hydrogenated
> >> oils, mayonnaise, spreads, & canola oil.
> >>
> >> Allowed: Cold expressed olive, flax, safflower, sunflower, sesame,
> >> walnut, pumpkin, & coconut oil.
> >>
> >> I'll probably use olive oil.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
> >
> > Your doctor is a freakin' quack IMHO.
>
>
>
> How so?
>
> Cheri

His doctor is just GUESSING. Batteries of tests usually need to be done to truly find what is going on. Changing the diet is usually done to address certain specific conditions, not as a cure-all.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 1:48:23 PM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 10:42:15 AM UTC-7, KenK wrote:
>> >> barbie gee > wrote in
>> >> hcrg.pbz:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, KenK wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain
>> >> >> I've had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power
>> >> >> pills.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread.
>> >> >> tortillas, etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial
>> >> >> sweeteners. Very few oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very
>> >> >> good. Looks like no more prepared foods - home cooking for this
>> >> >> very
>> >> >> bad cook.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm sure to love this new diet.
>> >> >
>> >> > what's with the "very few oils" thing?
>> >> > My impression was that the nutritionists have backed off a little on
>> >> > oils/fats, now sorting them into "good fats" and "bad fats", but I
>> >> > don't see the old "low fat" thing being recommended any more.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> In the list the doctor gave me:
>> >>
>> >> Forbidden: Shortening, margarine, peanut oil, cashew oil, hydrogenated
>> >> oils, mayonnaise, spreads, & canola oil.
>> >>
>> >> Allowed: Cold expressed olive, flax, safflower, sunflower, sesame,
>> >> walnut, pumpkin, & coconut oil.
>> >>
>> >> I'll probably use olive oil.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>> >
>> > Your doctor is a freakin' quack IMHO.
>>
>>
>>
>> How so?
>>
>> Cheri
>
> His doctor is just GUESSING. Batteries of tests usually need to be done to
> truly find what is going on. Changing the diet is usually done to address
> certain specific conditions, not as a cure-all.

=========

His doctor is probably going on many previous experiences with patients,
trying out a different diet before a bunch of medications is always a good
thing IMO. Ken will know soon enough if it's working for him.

Cheri

On 10 Mar 2017 17:04:25 GMT, KenK > wrote:

> sf > wrote in newsv83cctk3uup05fr8fvpolsjnvb4eb06or@
> 4ax.com:
>
> > Is it your joints or muscular?
>
> Muscles mostly but joints too. Moves around from day to day. What hurt
> yesterday fine today. Mostly in left arm, shoulder, & hand and my neck and
> back.
>
> > Have you noticed any weakness?
>
> Hard to tell. Too much pain when moving. Probably not.
>
> BTW, this has all eased greatly since I started the anti-inflammatory meds
> last Tuesday. Hope diet keeps it away after med series runs out.

Great! Hope it continues to work for you. Common food allergens can
do that to you.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 10 Mar 2017 17:07:21 GMT, KenK > wrote:

> sf > wrote in news:ag83ccl2ffaa00am5fs3s8bc52mt18ifuv@
> 4ax.com:
>
> > PS: If it's not gluten, other common allergens are cow dairy, eggs and
> > soy. Soy is everywhere, even in that package of flavored almonds.
> > Become a label reader!
> >
>
> Eggs not on my don't-eat list. My earlier mistake - salt not on list
> either.

Good! You'll know in a month if gluten is the problem or not. My DIL
had terrible joint pain and the Dr put her on a gluten free diet for a
year. She improved, but not as much as she hoped so she went to one
of those Dr.s that do food "sensitivity" testing (blood sample) and
found out it wasn't gluten, it was yeast. After she fine tuned it (no
more beer for one), her situation improved.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 3/10/2017 12:41 PM, Janet wrote:
>
> A charming member of staff asked what kind of mattress support I
> preferred; and was it for one or two persons.
> When I said two, he said "In that case, you need to try them out with
> two people lying down. I'll stand in for your husband". Thus it was that
> I went to bed with a strange man on every bed in the store.
>
> Janet UK
>
>
That's funny! I bought a new mattress when I moved here in 2009.
My SO was with me. And yes, we pretty much went to bed on every
mattress in the store. I was NOT willing to pay $5000 for a mattress.
What was odd was the mattress salesman who kept hovering, looking like
he wanted to peek up my shorts. Go away! I'll let you know when I have
decided.

I got a nice pillow-top mattress for about $1000. The mattress on the
bed my brother took was hard as a rock. I do not like extra-firm
mattresses. I realize there is a need for support, but I don't want to
feel like I'm sleeping on a marble slab.

As for joint pain, well I'm not 82 like Ken is. But I do feel a bit of
arthrtis pain in my joints. I take a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement
which does help. Also a MidNite (sleep aid) on occasion.

Jill

dsi1 wrote:
>
> > > An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough
> > > sleep. It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up,
> > > I'll turn on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00
> > > or later. This morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.

Do you like to read? I always have a book going and I often wake up
late at night. I'll start reading and that puts me right back to sleep.
Problem is....I really want to read and don't want to go right back to
sleep. It works though.

Keep in mind, average sleep is 8 hours. Not everyone needs that much and
you can even slowly train yourself to get by on much less. For the last
40 years or so, I get about 5.5 hours sleep each night. I've done a
little more and a little less and I've found that the 5.5 is best for
me. More than that or less than that makes me feel tired during the day.

Might have to check snopes.com on this but I remember hearing that Ben
Franklin got by on only 2-something hours of sleep.

IMO.....we all die eventually. Plenty of time for sleep then. Try to get
by on less meanwhile. heheh

dsi1 wrote:
>
> Ophelia wrote:
> > I take it
> > you haven't come across the Firth of Forth yet?
>
> Oops, that's right - Stirling! "Sterling" is just plain goofy! The Firth of Forth sounds funny, although not as funny as the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

Hey you too! >:-o Watch your language! This is a family food group.

On 2017-03-12 12:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/10/2017 12:41 PM, Janet wrote:

> I got a nice pillow-top mattress for about $1000. The mattress on the
> bed my brother took was hard as a rock. I do not like extra-firm
> mattresses. I realize there is a need for support, but I don't want to
> feel like I'm sleeping on a marble slab.

The mattress we got when we were first married was a European foam
rubber and lasted more than 25 years. I loved it.



> As for joint pain, well I'm not 82 like Ken is. But I do feel a bit of
> arthrtis pain in my joints. I take a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement
> which does help. Also a MidNite (sleep aid) on occasion.

I am 66 now and starting to develop aches and pains. I don't know how
much is arthritis and how much is muscle cramping, or how much of it is
one affecting the other. My right thumb and the little finger on my left
hand are causing issues. My right knee has some arthritis and it flares
up once in a while. One, two or all three of them sometimes wake me up
in the middle of the night. Voltarine has been a big help.

On 3/12/2017 12:48 PM, Gary wrote:

>
> Keep in mind, average sleep is 8 hours. Not everyone needs that much and
> you can even slowly train yourself to get by on much less. For the last
> 40 years or so, I get about 5.5 hours sleep each night. I've done a
> little more and a little less and I've found that the 5.5 is best for
> me. More than that or less than that makes me feel tired during the day.
>
> Might have to check snopes.com on this but I remember hearing that Ben
> Franklin got by on only 2-something hours of sleep.
>
> IMO.....we all die eventually. Plenty of time for sleep then. Try to get
> by on less meanwhile. heheh
>

I like 6 1/2 to 7 hours. Sleep is something the body needs, not
something I enjoy doing. I'd rather be awake doing something, even if
something is just watching TV or listening to music.

On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 6:49:16 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > > An extra king size bed sounds nice. As it is, I'm not getting enough
> > > > sleep. It seems that I can only sleep 4 hours at night. When I wake up,
> > > > I'll turn on my phone to check the time. I'm hoping that it'll say 5:00
> > > > or later. This morning it said 3:00. Struck out again.
>
> Do you like to read? I always have a book going and I often wake up
> late at night. I'll start reading and that puts me right back to sleep.
> Problem is....I really want to read and don't want to go right back to
> sleep. It works though.
>
> Keep in mind, average sleep is 8 hours. Not everyone needs that much and
> you can even slowly train yourself to get by on much less. For the last
> 40 years or so, I get about 5.5 hours sleep each night. I've done a
> little more and a little less and I've found that the 5.5 is best for
> me. More than that or less than that makes me feel tired during the day.
>
> Might have to check snopes.com on this but I remember hearing that Ben
> Franklin got by on only 2-something hours of sleep.
>
> IMO.....we all die eventually. Plenty of time for sleep then. Try to get
> by on less meanwhile. heheh

Reading certainly would put me to sleep. That may be an option. My son used to have to sit with psych patients while they slept. He'd get a book and read throughout the night. His co-workers would just fall asleep but staying awake was not a problem for him. He had a t-shirt that said "I'll sleep when I'm dead."

On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 6:49:42 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > Ophelia wrote:
> > > I take it
> > > you haven't come across the Firth of Forth yet?
> >
> > Oops, that's right - Stirling! "Sterling" is just plain goofy! The Firth of Forth sounds funny, although not as funny as the Strait of Juan de Fuca.
>
> Hey you too! >:-o Watch your language! This is a family food group.
>

Juan de Fuca would be disappointed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Fuca

On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 11:24:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 6:49:42 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > Ophelia wrote:
>> > > I take it
>> > > you haven't come across the Firth of Forth yet?
>> >
>> > Oops, that's right - Stirling! "Sterling" is just plain goofy! The Firth of Forth sounds funny, although not as funny as the Strait of Juan de Fuca.
>>
>> Hey you too! >:-o Watch your language! This is a family food group.
>>
>
>Juan de Fuca would be disappointed.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Fuca

Still sounds like the husband of Mrs Choksondik.

On 3/8/2017 8:23 AM, KenK wrote:
> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain I've
> had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power pills.
>
> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread. tortillas,
> etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial sweeteners. Very few
> oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very good. Looks like no more
> prepared foods - home cooking for this very bad cook.
>
> I'm sure to love this new diet.
>
>
>
What kind of doctor? Chiropractor? Naturopath?

I am skeptical.

On 3/12/2017 1:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-03-12 12:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/10/2017 12:41 PM, Janet wrote:
>
>> I got a nice pillow-top mattress for about $1000. The mattress on the
>> bed my brother took was hard as a rock. I do not like extra-firm
>> mattresses. I realize there is a need for support, but I don't want to
>> feel like I'm sleeping on a marble slab.
>
> The mattress we got when we were first married was a European foam
> rubber and lasted more than 25 years. I loved it.
>
>> As for joint pain, well I'm not 82 like Ken is. But I do feel a bit of
>> arthrtis pain in my joints. I take a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement
>> which does help. Also a MidNite (sleep aid) on occasion.
>
> I am 66 now and starting to develop aches and pains. I don't know how
> much is arthritis and how much is muscle cramping, or how much of it is
> one affecting the other. My right thumb and the little finger on my left
> hand are causing issues. My right knee has some arthritis and it flares
> up once in a while. One, two or all three of them sometimes wake me up
> in the middle of the night. Voltarine has been a big help.
>
>
Thankfully I don't experience muscle cramps. Lately I've had problems
with my left elbow being sore. I have to sleep with that arm fully
extended, otherwise the ache wakes me up and I have to turn or change
positions. This also wakes up the cat, who thinks, "Oh, she's moving...
maybe it's time to play!" LOL

I have arthritis in my hands. I've been typing since I took classes in
high school so it's no wonder these fingers are tired.

Jill

On 2017-03-13, jmcquown > wrote:

> I have arthritis in my hands. I've been typing since I took classes in
> high school so it's no wonder these fingers are tired.

Move yer keyboard to yer lap. I've suffered RMS, before, and this has
prevented its return.

nb

On 3/13/2017 10:26 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-03-13, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> I have arthritis in my hands. I've been typing since I took classes in
>> high school so it's no wonder these fingers are tired.
>
> Move yer keyboard to yer lap. I've suffered RMS, before, and this has
> prevented its return.
>
> nb
>
RMS? I don't know what that means. Having the keyboard on my lap would
be far too low. My small desk has a pull-out keyboard tray. I also use
a Microsoft "Natural" keyboard. Unlike standard keyboards (or, heaven
forbid, the tiny cramped keyboard on a laptop) the keys are comfortably
spaced so the typing stance is much more relaxed.

Jill

On 2017-03-13, jmcquown > wrote:

> RMS? I don't know what that means.

Repeated Movement Syndrome. At least that's the last acronym I heard
it called. There are many more and they change every other week.
RMI (Injury), RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury), etc. Basically, carpal
tunnel and/or tennis elbow.

You need to join CRAP: Curmudgeons Resisting Acronym Propagation.

> I also use a Microsoft "Natural" keyboard.

Yes, I have one, too. The split/angled keyboard is great for
negotiating around my beer belly.

nb

Delbert Cecchi > wrote in
news
> On 3/8/2017 8:23 AM, KenK wrote:
>> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain
>> I've had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power pills.
>>
>> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread.
>> tortillas, etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial
>> sweeteners. Very few oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very
>> good. Looks like no more prepared foods - home cooking for this very
>> bad cook.
>>
>> I'm sure to love this new diet.
>>
>>
>>
> What kind of doctor? Chiropractor? Naturopath?
>
> I am skeptical.
>

MD. Arthritis specialist. Referred by orthopedic MD.

--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 3/13/2017 10:26 AM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2017-03-13, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> I have arthritis in my hands. I've been typing since I took classes in
>>> high school so it's no wonder these fingers are tired.
>>
>> Move yer keyboard to yer lap. I've suffered RMS, before, and this has
>> prevented its return.
>>
>> nb
>>
> RMS? I don't know what that means. Having the keyboard on my lap would
> be far too low. My small desk has a pull-out keyboard tray. I also use a
> Microsoft "Natural" keyboard. Unlike standard keyboards (or, heaven
> forbid, the tiny cramped keyboard on a laptop) the keys are comfortably
> spaced so the typing stance is much more relaxed.
>
> Jill


Repetitive Motion Syndrome.

Cheri

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 10:42:15 AM UTC-7, KenK wrote:
>> barbie gee > wrote in
>> hcrg.pbz:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, KenK wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dr. put me om an anti-inflammatory diet yestetday to stop some pain
>> >> I've had. And some pills. But he forgot to give me will-power pills.
>> >>
>> >> Pretty much a vegan diet as well as no refined grains (no bread.
>> >> tortillas, etc) or other Glutens. No sugar, salt, or artificial
>> >> sweeteners. Very few oils. More or less, nothing that tastes very
>> >> good. Looks like no more prepared foods - home cooking for this very
>> >> bad cook.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure to love this new diet.
>> >
>> > what's with the "very few oils" thing?
>> > My impression was that the nutritionists have backed off a little on
>> > oils/fats, now sorting them into "good fats" and "bad fats", but I
>> > don't see the old "low fat" thing being recommended any more.
>> >
>>
>> In the list the doctor gave me:
>>
>> Forbidden: Shortening, margarine, peanut oil, cashew oil, hydrogenated
>> oils, mayonnaise, spreads, & canola oil.
>>
>> Allowed: Cold expressed olive, flax, safflower, sunflower, sesame,
>> walnut, pumpkin, & coconut oil.
>>
>> I'll probably use olive oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>
> Your doctor is a freakin' quack IMHO.

I guess you don't have arthritis, Roy. My mom does. She has to avoid wheat
and all nightshades. Actually, I think the only nightshade she might be
tempted to eat is potatoes. I don't think she likes eggplant. Peppers and
tomatoes mess with her GERD so that's two reasons to avoid them.

It doesn't take much. She might eat a French fry or two off of someone's
plate and not long after, she is complaining of pain in her hands.

Her dad was a farmer. He died when I was only 8, but I still remember how
bad his arthritis was. He owned a Western Auto store and was also a farmer.
I can remember him coming home from work and heading straight to the stove
in the kitchen, even in the summer time to hold his stiff hands over the
heat. It was the only relief he could get.

Seeing as how he was a farmer, you can bet your sweet bippy that he ate a
lot of nightshades, particularly in the summer. My grandma often put out
platters of sliced tomatoes fresh from the garden. Only thing I think he
never grew was potatoes. He used to say one should never waste their time
growing that which they could buy for cheaper. But they did eat potatoes.
They also commonly ate biscuits and meals with macaroni in them. With 8 kids
and a wife to feed, they needed cheap food.

The relationship between food and healing is nothing new. Hippocrates spoke
of it. He used grapes for healing a variety of things and touted celery for
knees that crack. Celery is high in natural sodium and it does work. I use
it and have told friends about it. They say it does help. Just eat one rib
every day.