Does bread qualify as a "perishable"? I'm translating the annual
report of a supermarket chain into English and the author uses a
phrase that literally means "fresh products" but it includes not only
fruits & vegetables and meat & dairy but also charcuterie,
freshly-baked goods, and generally speaking anything else that has a
short shelf life and can spoil.

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In article
ich.is.quite.invalid>,
lid says...
>
> Does bread qualify as a "perishable"?

Yes.

http://food.unl.edu/food-storage

I'm translating the annual
> report of a supermarket chain into English and the author uses a
> phrase that literally means "fresh products" but it includes not only
> fruits & vegetables and meat & dairy but also charcuterie,
> freshly-baked goods, and generally speaking anything else that has a
> short shelf life and can spoil.

Janet UK

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:12:55 +0300, Opinicus
> wrote:

>Does bread qualify as a "perishable"? I'm translating the annual
>report of a supermarket chain into English and the author uses a
>phrase that literally means "fresh products" but it includes not only
>fruits & vegetables and meat & dairy but also charcuterie,
>freshly-baked goods, and generally speaking anything else that has a
>short shelf life and can spoil.

anything that is no shelf stable

On 3/14/2017 7:47 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article
> ich.is.quite.invalid>,
> lid says...
>>
>> Does bread qualify as a "perishable"?
>
> Yes.
>
> http://food.unl.edu/food-storage
>


Not everyone agrees on that. Some would call it semi-perishable.

Perishable foods are those likely to spoil, decay or become unsafe to
consume if not kept refrigerated at 40 F° (4.4 °C) or below or frozen at
0 F° (-17.8 °C) or below. Examples of foods that must be kept
refrigerated for safety include meat, poultry, fish, dairy products, and
all cooked leftovers.

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 11:47:46 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>> Does bread qualify as a "perishable"?
> Yes.
> http://food.unl.edu/food-storage

Thanks for that link and thanks also to everyone who replied.

--
Bob
St Francis would have done better to preach to the cats

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:24:30 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Some would call it semi-perishable.

Which makes it perishable.


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On 3/15/2017 2:00 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:24:30 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Some would call it semi-perishable.
>
> Which makes it perishable.
>
>
But perishables like meat are spoiled and would make you sick to eat.
Stale bread has many uses. Bread crumbs, croutons, puddings, thickener,
etc. It does not have to be trashed. Mold would be an exception.

On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 09:23:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 3/15/2017 2:00 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:24:30 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> Some would call it semi-perishable.
>>
>> Which makes it perishable.
>>
>>
>But perishables like meat are spoiled and would make you sick to eat.
>Stale bread has many uses. Bread crumbs, croutons, puddings, thickener,
>etc. It does not have to be trashed. Mold would be an exception.

IMO, perishable means that I couldn't keep it in my fall-out shelter
for use at a later date. Canned stuff and some cryovaced stuff fit
the bill.
Janet US

On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:21:15 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 09:23:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >On 3/15/2017 2:00 AM, sf wrote:
> >> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:24:30 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Some would call it semi-perishable.
> >>
> >> Which makes it perishable.
> >>
> >>
> >But perishables like meat are spoiled and would make you sick to eat.
> >Stale bread has many uses. Bread crumbs, croutons, puddings, thickener,
> >etc. It does not have to be trashed. Mold would be an exception.
>
> IMO, perishable means that I couldn't keep it in my fall-out shelter
> for use at a later date. Canned stuff and some cryovaced stuff fit
> the bill.
> Janet US

Agree.


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On 14/03/2017 21:34, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:12:55 +0300, Opinicus wrote:
>
>> Does bread qualify as a "perishable"? I'm translating the annual
>> report of a supermarket chain into English and the author uses a
>> phrase that literally means "fresh products" but it includes not only
>> fruits & vegetables and meat & dairy but also charcuterie,
>> freshly-baked goods, and generally speaking anything else that has a
>> short shelf life and can spoil.
>
> "Fresh" is any food that hasn't been frozen, dehydrated, or thermally
> processed to extend shelf-life. Perishable means it needs to be kept
> refrigerated (or frozen). Pasteurized milk products, for example, are
> not fresh but they are perishable.

>Common breads are fresh, but not
> perishable.
>

Eh? Have you ever forgotten a slice of bread and seen it go mouldy
green? How is that NOT perishable?



> Which reminds me, today at the store I saw a sauce made from "fresh
> ripe anchos". Which qualifies as a double oxymoron.
>
> -sw
>

On 3/16/2017 5:07 AM, occam wrote:
> On 14/03/2017 21:34, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:12:55 +0300, Opinicus wrote:
>>
>>> Does bread qualify as a "perishable"? I'm translating the annual
>>> report of a supermarket chain into English and the author uses a
>>> phrase that literally means "fresh products" but it includes not only
>>> fruits & vegetables and meat & dairy but also charcuterie,
>>> freshly-baked goods, and generally speaking anything else that has a
>>> short shelf life and can spoil.
>>
>> "Fresh" is any food that hasn't been frozen, dehydrated, or thermally
>> processed to extend shelf-life. Perishable means it needs to be kept
>> refrigerated (or frozen). Pasteurized milk products, for example, are
>> not fresh but they are perishable.
>
>> Common breads are fresh, but not
>> perishable.
>>
>
> Eh? Have you ever forgotten a slice of bread and seen it go mouldy
> green? How is that NOT perishable?
>

Have you ever seen dried bread in the form of croutons or crumbs, pako?
Lasts for years. Bread can go moldy but can last if properly dried.

On 3/16/2017 6:12 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/16/2017 5:07 AM, occam wrote:
>> On 14/03/2017 21:34, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:12:55 +0300, Opinicus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does bread qualify as a "perishable"? I'm translating the annual
>>>> report of a supermarket chain into English and the author uses a
>>>> phrase that literally means "fresh products" but it includes not only
>>>> fruits & vegetables and meat & dairy but also charcuterie,
>>>> freshly-baked goods, and generally speaking anything else that has a
>>>> short shelf life and can spoil.
>>>
>>> "Fresh" is any food that hasn't been frozen, dehydrated, or thermally
>>> processed to extend shelf-life. Perishable means it needs to be kept
>>> refrigerated (or frozen). Pasteurized milk products, for example, are
>>> not fresh but they are perishable.
>>
>>> Common breads are fresh, but not
>>> perishable.
>>>
>>
>> Eh? Have you ever forgotten a slice of bread and seen it go mouldy
>> green? How is that NOT perishable?
>>
>
> Have you ever seen dried bread in the form of croutons or crumbs, pako?
> Lasts for years. Bread can go moldy but can last if properly dried.
>

so, if not dried, perishable.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:41:51 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:50:38 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> On 3/16/2017 6:12 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 3/16/2017 5:07 AM, occam wrote:
>>>> On 14/03/2017 21:34, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:12:55 +0300, Opinicus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does bread qualify as a "perishable"? I'm translating the annual
>>>>>> report of a supermarket chain into English and the author uses a
>>>>>> phrase that literally means "fresh products" but it includes not only
>>>>>> fruits & vegetables and meat & dairy but also charcuterie,
>>>>>> freshly-baked goods, and generally speaking anything else that has a
>>>>>> short shelf life and can spoil.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Fresh" is any food that hasn't been frozen, dehydrated, or thermally
>>>>> processed to extend shelf-life. Perishable means it needs to be kept
>>>>> refrigerated (or frozen). Pasteurized milk products, for example, are
>>>>> not fresh but they are perishable.
>>>>
>>>>> Common breads are fresh, but not
>>>>> perishable.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eh? Have you ever forgotten a slice of bread and seen it go mouldy
>>>> green? How is that NOT perishable?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you ever seen dried bread in the form of croutons or crumbs, pako?
>>> Lasts for years. Bread can go moldy but can last if properly dried.
>>>
>>
>> so, if not dried, perishable.
>
>Perishables go bad much more quickly at room temperature. Bread can
>last a very, very long time if prepared and packaged in a sterile
>environment. Even when not prepared in a totally sterile environment,
>an unopened/sealed loaf of bread should last a month. True
>perishables, as the food industry recognizes, don't last nearly as
>long and require refrigeration.
>
>What are the two (or four) words following "Perishable..." on a food
>label?
>
>-sw

refrigerate after opening

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:12:16 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 3/16/2017 5:07 AM, occam wrote:
>> On 14/03/2017 21:34, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> "Fresh" is any food that hasn't been frozen, dehydrated, or thermally
>>> processed to extend shelf-life. Perishable means it needs to be kept
>>> refrigerated (or frozen). Pasteurized milk products, for example, are
>>> not fresh but they are perishable.
>>
>>> Common breads are fresh, but not
>>> perishable.
>>>
>> Eh? Have you ever forgotten a slice of bread and seen it go mouldy
>> green? How is that NOT perishable?
>>
>Have you ever seen dried bread in the form of croutons or crumbs, pako?
>Lasts for years. Bread can go moldy but can last if properly dried.

You're probably talking about bread that's full of preservatives and
Chinese hair.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...

> refrigerate after opening

Using this link to say thank you for recommending BookBub, it's a really
great deal for Kindle Free Books!

Cheri

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:50:56 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:16:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:41:51 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>What are the two (or four) words following "Perishable..." on a food
>>>label?
>>
>> refrigerate after opening
>
>Uh, no. I have never seen the phrase "Perishable. Refrigerate after
>opening" on a food label. I'm sure it may exist on some backwoods
>Podunk product or two, but that's hardly standard terminology.

Well, tell us what those words are then. The tension is killing us!

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:05:15 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:
>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>>On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:41:51 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>wrote:

>>>What are the two (or four) words following "Perishable..." on a food
>>>label?

>> refrigerate after opening
>
>Using this link to say thank you for recommending BookBub, it's a really
>great deal for Kindle Free Books!

After "Perishable" it says "Using this link to say thank you for
recommending BookBub, it's a really great deal for Kindle Free
Books!"?

I've never seen that on any product.

On 3/16/2017 9:41 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:50:38 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> On 3/16/2017 6:12 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 3/16/2017 5:07 AM, occam wrote:
>>>> On 14/03/2017 21:34, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:12:55 +0300, Opinicus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does bread qualify as a "perishable"? I'm translating the annual
>>>>>> report of a supermarket chain into English and the author uses a
>>>>>> phrase that literally means "fresh products" but it includes not only
>>>>>> fruits & vegetables and meat & dairy but also charcuterie,
>>>>>> freshly-baked goods, and generally speaking anything else that has a
>>>>>> short shelf life and can spoil.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Fresh" is any food that hasn't been frozen, dehydrated, or thermally
>>>>> processed to extend shelf-life. Perishable means it needs to be kept
>>>>> refrigerated (or frozen). Pasteurized milk products, for example, are
>>>>> not fresh but they are perishable.
>>>>
>>>>> Common breads are fresh, but not
>>>>> perishable.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eh? Have you ever forgotten a slice of bread and seen it go mouldy
>>>> green? How is that NOT perishable?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you ever seen dried bread in the form of croutons or crumbs, pako?
>>> Lasts for years. Bread can go moldy but can last if properly dried.
>>>
>>
>> so, if not dried, perishable.
>
> Perishables go bad much more quickly at room temperature. Bread can
> last a very, very long time if prepared and packaged in a sterile
> environment. Even when not prepared in a totally sterile environment,
> an unopened/sealed loaf of bread should last a month. True
> perishables, as the food industry recognizes, don't last nearly as
> long and require refrigeration.
>
> What are the two (or four) words following "Perishable..." on a food
> label?
>
> -sw
>

eat me

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:05:15 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>
>> refrigerate after opening
>
>Using this link to say thank you for recommending BookBub, it's a really
>great deal for Kindle Free Books!
>
>Cheri
>

It is, isn't it. I have plenty of un-read books stored on my Kindle
so that I won't ever have to be without a book.
Janet US

Bruce wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:50:56 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:16:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:41:51 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>What are the two (or four) words following "Perishable..." on a food
> >>>label?
> >>
> >> refrigerate after opening
> >
> >Uh, no. I have never seen the phrase "Perishable. Refrigerate after
> >opening" on a food label. I'm sure it may exist on some backwoods
> >Podunk product or two, but that's hardly standard terminology.
>
> Well, tell us what those words are then. The tension is killing us!



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