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>> On 3/20/2017 12:58 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What I wonder is why the person didn't shell out $20 for a new whirly
>>> grinder that can be repurposed for herbs & spices afterward... or pick
>>> one up at a garage sale/second hand shop? If you live on Dataw
>>> Island, in Jill's community, the chances are good that $20 is chump
>>> change.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Some of the old people would rather break up the beans with a hammer than
>> spend a buck to grind them. You know, the ones that hang a tea bag to
>> dry so they can get three uses out of it.

>
>
>
> Some of the older people have probably known really hard times, times when
> things weren't provided for them at every turn like they are these days,
> so
> they have different habits about throwing things away, replacing etc.
>
> Cheri
>
> ====
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> +1


Hi Ophelia, good to see you.

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On Wed 22 Mar 2017 02:49:59a, Ophelia told us...

> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 3/20/2017 12:58 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I wonder is why the person didn't shell out $20 for a new
>>>> whirly grinder that can be repurposed for herbs & spices
>>>> afterward... or pick one up at a garage sale/second hand shop?
>>>> If you live on Dataw Island, in Jill's community, the chances
>>>> are good that $20 is chump change.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Some of the old people would rather break up the beans with a
>>> hammer than spend a buck to grind them. You know, the ones that
>>> hang a tea bag to dry so they can get three uses out of it.

>>
>>
>>
>> Some of the older people have probably known really hard times,
>> times when things weren't provided for them at every turn like
>> they are these days, so they have different habits about throwing
>> things away, replacing etc.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> ====
>>
>> +1

>
> Hi Ophelia, good to see you.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===
>
> Thanks, Cheri I haven't been away, just nothing to write
> about
>
>
>


It's always nice to know that you're there, Ophelia!


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On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 1:59:42 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> I don't drink coffee anymore. When I did, I bought ground coffee.
> Brewed it at home. I've never ground my own coffee. Having said that,
> would the coffee afficionados here let a neighbor borrow their coffee
> grinder?
>
> Someone on Dataw is asking. They were "gifted" with a bag of coffee
> beans but they don't have a grinder. They're asking for the use of one.
>
> What say you folks who do grind your own coffee. Would you let a
> neighbor (in this case someone you probably don't know well) use yo
> coffee grinder? Just curious.
>
> Jill


Would I lend my coffee grinder to someone? Sure, I would ask them to please grind nothing but Coffee, no spices. I use mine every day, so if I lent it to someone they would have to grind the whole pound and return it to me the same day. It does not take but a couple of minutes to grind a pound of coffee.
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On Wed 22 Mar 2017 01:53:43p, Ophelia told us...

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> On Wed 22 Mar 2017 02:49:59a, Ophelia told us...
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>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>>> On 3/20/2017 12:58 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What I wonder is why the person didn't shell out $20 for a new
>>>>> whirly grinder that can be repurposed for herbs & spices
>>>>> afterward... or pick one up at a garage sale/second hand shop?
>>>>> If you live on Dataw Island, in Jill's community, the chances
>>>>> are good that $20 is chump change.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some of the old people would rather break up the beans with a
>>>> hammer than spend a buck to grind them. You know, the ones
>>>> that hang a tea bag to dry so they can get three uses out of
>>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some of the older people have probably known really hard times,
>>> times when things weren't provided for them at every turn like
>>> they are these days, so they have different habits about
>>> throwing things away, replacing etc.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> ====
>>>
>>> +1

>>
>> Hi Ophelia, good to see you.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Thanks, Cheri I haven't been away, just nothing to write
>> about
>>
>>
>>

>
> It's always nice to know that you're there, Ophelia!
>
>
> Wayne Boatwright
> ====
>
> HI Wayne)) It is lovely to see you posting again) Hope all
> is well with you? Sorry I didn't welcome you when you arrived. I
> haven't been too well
>
> Anyway... Welcome Back I hope you are staying)


David and I are fine, Ophelia, just getting older :-)
I'm really sorry to know that your not feeling well and hope you'll be
on the mend soon. We must keep in touch!

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On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:25:41 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> On 2017-03-20 8:27 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > It's simply amazing to me what some of these folks ask to borrow/use.
>> > This morning someone on Dataw asked about borrowing a potty chair for a
>> > visiting toddler grandchild. They frequently ask for things like car
>> > seats, cribs, air mattresses, bedding. Gee, I thought you knew you had
>> > grandchildren or guests coming to visit. Heh.
>> >
>> > Jill

>>
>> A useful piece of advice I had from a friend as I was about to go to Uni
>> many years ago was: "Neither a borrower nor lender be."
>> He was right (he's a retired RC priest now)

>
> The miserable tightarse.
>
> "1 John 3:17 - But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his
>brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels [of compassion] from him,
>how dwelleth the love of God in him?"
>
> Janet UK


I like that verse also and 17

1 John 3:17-18 If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother
or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be
in that person? 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech
but with actions and in truth.

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On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 6:28:26 PM UTC-10, koko wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:25:41 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >, says...
> >>
> >> On 2017-03-20 8:27 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > It's simply amazing to me what some of these folks ask to borrow/use..
> >> > This morning someone on Dataw asked about borrowing a potty chair for a
> >> > visiting toddler grandchild. They frequently ask for things like car
> >> > seats, cribs, air mattresses, bedding. Gee, I thought you knew you had
> >> > grandchildren or guests coming to visit. Heh.
> >> >
> >> > Jill
> >>
> >> A useful piece of advice I had from a friend as I was about to go to Uni
> >> many years ago was: "Neither a borrower nor lender be."
> >> He was right (he's a retired RC priest now)

> >
> > The miserable tightarse.
> >
> > "1 John 3:17 - But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his
> >brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels [of compassion] from him,
> >how dwelleth the love of God in him?"
> >
> > Janet UK

>
> I like that verse also and 17
>
> 1 John 3:17-18 If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother
> or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be
> in that person? 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech
> but with actions and in truth.
>
> koko
>
> --
> When you acknowledge, as you must, that there is no perfect food,
> only the idea of it, then the real purpose of striving toward perfection
> becomes clear; to make people happy, That's what cooking is all about
> Thomas Keller: The French Laundry


Recently, I pulled into a parking space at work. There was an old Japanese bag lady sitting on the side of the space. She was crying her guts out. I asked her if she was OK and she said she needed a dollar. I had three bucks in my wallet so I gave her $2. She said "thank you, thank you, are you my daddy?" I said "sorry, I'm not" and went to the office to do some work. When I came back to the car, she was joyful and singing and nodded to me as I pulled out. Evidently, one can buy happiness, and for not a lot of money. If I had known how happy she'd be, I would have given her $3.
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:24:56 +1100, Bruce >
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> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:11:02 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:46:00 +1100, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:58:44 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >What I wonder is why the person didn't shell out $20 for a new whirly
> >> >grinder that can be repurposed for herbs & spices afterward... or pick
> >> >one up at a garage sale/second hand shop? If you live on Dataw
> >> >Island, in Jill's community, the chances are good that $20 is chump
> >> >change.
> >>
> >> Maybe their one bag of coffee isn't even worth $20.

> >
> >That's their problem.

>
> It blows your suggestion out of the water.


Wrong. Nothing I said was based on the price of their coffee.


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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 00:20:55 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:24:56 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:11:02 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:46:00 +1100, Bruce >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:58:44 -0700, sf > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >What I wonder is why the person didn't shell out $20 for a new whirly
>> >> >grinder that can be repurposed for herbs & spices afterward... or pick
>> >> >one up at a garage sale/second hand shop? If you live on Dataw
>> >> >Island, in Jill's community, the chances are good that $20 is chump
>> >> >change.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe their one bag of coffee isn't even worth $20.
>> >
>> >That's their problem.

>>
>> It blows your suggestion out of the water.

>
>Wrong. Nothing I said was based on the price of their coffee.


"Somebody gave me a $10 bag of coffee beans. I'll quickly buy a $20
grinder so I can have me some coffee! Am I a lucky ******* or what?"
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> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 00:20:55 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:24:56 +1100, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:11:02 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:46:00 +1100, Bruce >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:58:44 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >What I wonder is why the person didn't shell out $20 for a new whirly
> >> >> >grinder that can be repurposed for herbs & spices afterward... or pick
> >> >> >one up at a garage sale/second hand shop? If you live on Dataw
> >> >> >Island, in Jill's community, the chances are good that $20 is chump
> >> >> >change.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe their one bag of coffee isn't even worth $20.
> >> >
> >> >That's their problem.
> >>
> >> It blows your suggestion out of the water.

> >
> >Wrong. Nothing I said was based on the price of their coffee.

>
> "Somebody gave me a $10 bag of coffee beans. I'll quickly buy a $20
> grinder so I can have me some coffee! Am I a lucky ******* or what?"


If you're that cheap and unimaginative, take your beans to the grocery
store and use their grinder.


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> If you're that cheap and unimaginative, take your beans to the grocery
> store and use their grinder.


LOL, speaking of cheap I saw a first today. A man was in front of me at the
store and had several small items, then he decided that he needed to go back
and get two apples which he did, the kicker was he brought back several of
the plastic veggie/fruit bags with them to put his other groceries in. He
did not want to spend the 10 cents for the bags apparently.

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:50:08 -0700, "Cheri" >
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>> If you're that cheap and unimaginative, take your beans to the grocery
>> store and use their grinder.

>
>LOL, speaking of cheap I saw a first today. A man was in front of me at the
>store and had several small items, then he decided that he needed to go back
>and get two apples which he did, the kicker was he brought back several of
>the plastic veggie/fruit bags with them to put his other groceries in. He
>did not want to spend the 10 cents for the bags apparently.


I'm always jealous of people with really interesting lives.
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On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 12:50:50 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > If you're that cheap and unimaginative, take your beans to the grocery
> > store and use their grinder.

>
> LOL, speaking of cheap I saw a first today. A man was in front of me at the
> store and had several small items, then he decided that he needed to go back
> and get two apples which he did, the kicker was he brought back several of
> the plastic veggie/fruit bags with them to put his other groceries in. He
> did not want to spend the 10 cents for the bags apparently.
>
> Cheri

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Good for him. These retailers who want to charge for bags are trying to make
people feel guilty about polluting the environment with nom-sustainable
garbage BUT they don't mind if you bring bags from some other source.
Bloody Hippocrates.
One of our drugstores is now charging 5 cents for a little plastic bag about
6 inches square. All it does is anger people and causes resentment.
Paper bags are sustainable and break down readily but the merchants won't go
back to them...nitwits all.
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Bruce wrote:
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>"Somebody gave me a $10 bag of coffee beans. I'll quickly buy a $20
>grinder so I can have me some coffee! Am I a lucky ******* or what?"


$10 worth of mediocre coffee beans weighs like 2 pounds tops, not
enough to make it worth buying a coffee grinder. Where does one buy a
coffee grinder for $20... the lowest priced coffee grinders cost over
$100.... can hardly buy a decent peppercorn grinder for $20.
Anyway since you asked I'd say you're much more of a stupid *******.
LOL


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On 3/24/2017 3:06 PM, Roy wrote:

> Good for him. These retailers who want to charge for bags are trying to make
> people feel guilty about polluting the environment with nom-sustainable
> garbage BUT they don't mind if you bring bags from some other source.
> Bloody Hippocrates.
> One of our drugstores is now charging 5 cents for a little plastic bag about
> 6 inches square. All it does is anger people and causes resentment.
> Paper bags are sustainable and break down readily but the merchants won't go
> back to them...nitwits all.
> ===




Check into it more In some states it is the government mandate to
charge for the bags, not the store.

Studies of landfills shows the paper does not break down like people
think. Newspapers buried with trash were dug up and perfectly readable
after 40 years. Both the paper and plastic bags can be recycled if
people would do so. Consumer apathy is the problem. Plastic bags are
also good in trash-to-energy plants as a pound of bags is 18,000n Btu of
heat energy.

One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the store
really promote the use of them.



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On 2017-03-24 3:06 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 12:50:50 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> If you're that cheap and unimaginative, take your beans to the grocery
>>> store and use their grinder.

>>
>> LOL, speaking of cheap I saw a first today. A man was in front of me at the
>> store and had several small items, then he decided that he needed to go back
>> and get two apples which he did, the kicker was he brought back several of
>> the plastic veggie/fruit bags with them to put his other groceries in. He
>> did not want to spend the 10 cents for the bags apparently.
>>
>> Cheri

> ====
>
> Good for him. These retailers who want to charge for bags are trying to make
> people feel guilty about polluting the environment with nom-sustainable
> garbage BUT they don't mind if you bring bags from some other source.
> Bloody Hippocrates.


They don't mind because an old bag is being re-used and they are not
adding to it.


> One of our drugstores is now charging 5 cents for a little plastic bag about
> 6 inches square. All it does is anger people and causes resentment.
> Paper bags are sustainable and break down readily but the merchants won't go
> back to them...nitwits all.
>

After a while people are in the habit of bringing their own bags. If
there are a few small items the don't really need a bag.


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On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the store
> really promote the use of them.
>



Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a limited
life and they too will end up in the landfill and take just as long to
decompose. I am not sure how far ahead we are using them. You have to
consider the amount of long lasting material there is in one reusable
bag compared to the number of bags it replaces. One benefit of the
reusable bags is that you can get 5-6 times as much into one, making it
easier to carry more stuff out to the car and into the house, provided
that you have the physical strength to carry the heavier bags. I am a
big guy and in good enough shape to carry 5-6 large bags with handles,
so I can carry a week's grocery's into the house in one trip.

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On 3/24/2017 3:58 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 24 Mar 2017 02:50:45p, Dave Smith told us...
>
>> On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the
>>> store really promote the use of them.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a
>> limited life and they too will end up in the landfill and take
>> just as long to decompose. I am not sure how far ahead we are
>> using them. You have to consider the amount of long lasting
>> material there is in one reusable bag compared to the number of
>> bags it replaces. One benefit of the reusable bags is that you can
>> get 5-6 times as much into one, making it easier to carry more
>> stuff out to the car and into the house, provided that you have
>> the physical strength to carry the heavier bags. I am a big guy
>> and in good enough shape to carry 5-6 large bags with handles, so
>> I can carry a week's grocery's into the house in one trip.

>
> We bought several extra large, heavy duty, insulated canvas bags from
> Costco. Each bag will typically hold the equivalent of 4-5
> supermarket plastic bags, plus they have a heavy duty zipper on top.
> These are made so well that they should last for years, plus they
> endure the AZ heat and protect our produce and frozen products.
> Granted, these bags can be quite heavy when fully loaded, but we park
> quite a distance from our unit, and use a folding shopping cart to
> transport the bags from the car. We also have several smaller canvas
> bags to use when we're only shopping for a few items.
>



Would you share those bags with a neighbor?
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:58:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Fri 24 Mar 2017 02:50:45p, Dave Smith told us...
>
>> On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the
>>> store really promote the use of them.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a
>> limited life and they too will end up in the landfill and take
>> just as long to decompose. I am not sure how far ahead we are
>> using them. You have to consider the amount of long lasting
>> material there is in one reusable bag compared to the number of
>> bags it replaces. One benefit of the reusable bags is that you can
>> get 5-6 times as much into one, making it easier to carry more
>> stuff out to the car and into the house, provided that you have
>> the physical strength to carry the heavier bags. I am a big guy
>> and in good enough shape to carry 5-6 large bags with handles, so
>> I can carry a week's grocery's into the house in one trip.

>
>We bought several extra large, heavy duty, insulated canvas bags from
>Costco. Each bag will typically hold the equivalent of 4-5
>supermarket plastic bags, plus they have a heavy duty zipper on top.
>These are made so well that they should last for years, plus they
>endure the AZ heat and protect our produce and frozen products.
>Granted, these bags can be quite heavy when fully loaded, but we park
>quite a distance from our unit, and use a folding shopping cart to
>transport the bags from the car. We also have several smaller canvas
>bags to use when we're only shopping for a few items.


I have the same ones. They aren't going to wear out in the next 10
years or so.
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>On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 6:28:26 PM UTC-10, koko wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:25:41 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> On 2017-03-20 8:27 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > It's simply amazing to me what some of these folks ask to borrow/use.
>> >> > This morning someone on Dataw asked about borrowing a potty chair for a
>> >> > visiting toddler grandchild. They frequently ask for things like car
>> >> > seats, cribs, air mattresses, bedding. Gee, I thought you knew you had
>> >> > grandchildren or guests coming to visit. Heh.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jill
>> >>
>> >> A useful piece of advice I had from a friend as I was about to go to Uni
>> >> many years ago was: "Neither a borrower nor lender be."
>> >> He was right (he's a retired RC priest now)
>> >
>> > The miserable tightarse.
>> >
>> > "1 John 3:17 - But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his
>> >brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels [of compassion] from him,
>> >how dwelleth the love of God in him?"
>> >
>> > Janet UK

>>
>> I like that verse also and 17
>>
>> 1 John 3:17-18 If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother
>> or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be
>> in that person? 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech
>> but with actions and in truth.
>>
>> koko
>>
>> --
>> When you acknowledge, as you must, that there is no perfect food,
>> only the idea of it, then the real purpose of striving toward perfection
>> becomes clear; to make people happy, That's what cooking is all about
>> Thomas Keller: The French Laundry

>
>Recently, I pulled into a parking space at work. There was an old Japanese bag lady sitting on the side of the space. She was crying her guts out. I asked her if she was OK and she said she needed a dollar. I had three bucks in my wallet so I gave her $2. She said "thank you, thank you, are you my daddy?" I said "sorry, I'm not" and went to the office to do some work. When I came back to the car, she was joyful and singing and nodded to me as I pulled out. Evidently, one can buy happiness, and for not a lot of money. If I had known how happy she'd be, I would have given her $3.


I usually have "Blessing bags" in my car. I have gallon size zip top
bags that I put basic necessities in like tooth paste and a tooth
brush, hand cream, chap stick, deodorant, a comb, sunscreen, wet ones,
note pad and pen, raisins, juice boxes, crackers and bananas. In a few
bags I include dog treats and dog food.

koko

--
When you acknowledge, as you must, that there is no perfect food,
only the idea of it, then the real purpose of striving toward perfection
becomes clear; to make people happy, That's what cooking is all about
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"Roy" > wrote in message
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> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 12:50:50 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > If you're that cheap and unimaginative, take your beans to the grocery
>> > store and use their grinder.

>>
>> LOL, speaking of cheap I saw a first today. A man was in front of me at
>> the
>> store and had several small items, then he decided that he needed to go
>> back
>> and get two apples which he did, the kicker was he brought back several
>> of
>> the plastic veggie/fruit bags with them to put his other groceries in. He
>> did not want to spend the 10 cents for the bags apparently.
>>
>> Cheri

> ====
>
> Good for him. These retailers who want to charge for bags are trying to
> make
> people feel guilty about polluting the environment with nom-sustainable
> garbage BUT they don't mind if you bring bags from some other source.
> Bloody Hippocrates.
> One of our drugstores is now charging 5 cents for a little plastic bag
> about
> 6 inches square. All it does is anger people and causes resentment.
> Paper bags are sustainable and break down readily but the merchants won't
> go
> back to them...nitwits all.


But...it's not the retailers, it's a state law that was passed in CA by the
nitwit lawmakers in Sacramento. I don't mind the fact that the retailers get
to keep the money instead of the state for a change either. I have never
seen a small bag like the one you describe, here they are fairly good size
and strong plastic. I don't always remember to take them in, but am getting
better with it. I certainly don't blame the retailer when I do forget.

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> On 3/24/2017 3:58 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Fri 24 Mar 2017 02:50:45p, Dave Smith told us...
>>
>>> On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the
>>>> store really promote the use of them.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a
>>> limited life and they too will end up in the landfill and take
>>> just as long to decompose. I am not sure how far ahead we are
>>> using them. You have to consider the amount of long lasting
>>> material there is in one reusable bag compared to the number of
>>> bags it replaces. One benefit of the reusable bags is that you can
>>> get 5-6 times as much into one, making it easier to carry more
>>> stuff out to the car and into the house, provided that you have
>>> the physical strength to carry the heavier bags. I am a big guy
>>> and in good enough shape to carry 5-6 large bags with handles, so
>>> I can carry a week's grocery's into the house in one trip.

>>
>> We bought several extra large, heavy duty, insulated canvas bags from
>> Costco. Each bag will typically hold the equivalent of 4-5
>> supermarket plastic bags, plus they have a heavy duty zipper on top.
>> These are made so well that they should last for years, plus they
>> endure the AZ heat and protect our produce and frozen products.
>> Granted, these bags can be quite heavy when fully loaded, but we park
>> quite a distance from our unit, and use a folding shopping cart to
>> transport the bags from the car. We also have several smaller canvas
>> bags to use when we're only shopping for a few items.
>>

>
>
> Would you share those bags with a neighbor?


I wouldn't share my cloth bags, but if I take several of the "paid plastic"
bags into a store and someone forgot to bring their bags (usually men) I
will give them a couple of mine.

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> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:58:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Fri 24 Mar 2017 02:50:45p, Dave Smith told us...
>>
>>> On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the
>>>> store really promote the use of them.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a
>>> limited life and they too will end up in the landfill and take
>>> just as long to decompose. I am not sure how far ahead we are
>>> using them. You have to consider the amount of long lasting
>>> material there is in one reusable bag compared to the number of
>>> bags it replaces. One benefit of the reusable bags is that you can
>>> get 5-6 times as much into one, making it easier to carry more
>>> stuff out to the car and into the house, provided that you have
>>> the physical strength to carry the heavier bags. I am a big guy
>>> and in good enough shape to carry 5-6 large bags with handles, so
>>> I can carry a week's grocery's into the house in one trip.

>>
>>We bought several extra large, heavy duty, insulated canvas bags from
>>Costco. Each bag will typically hold the equivalent of 4-5
>>supermarket plastic bags, plus they have a heavy duty zipper on top.
>>These are made so well that they should last for years, plus they
>>endure the AZ heat and protect our produce and frozen products.
>>Granted, these bags can be quite heavy when fully loaded, but we park
>>quite a distance from our unit, and use a folding shopping cart to
>>transport the bags from the car. We also have several smaller canvas
>>bags to use when we're only shopping for a few items.

>
> I have the same ones. They aren't going to wear out in the next 10
> years or so.
> Janet US


I have them too, the problem for me is remembering to bring them in many
times.

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:45:49 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:58:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri 24 Mar 2017 02:50:45p, Dave Smith told us...
>>>
>>>> On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the
>>>>> store really promote the use of them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a
>>>> limited life and they too will end up in the landfill and take
>>>> just as long to decompose. I am not sure how far ahead we are
>>>> using them. You have to consider the amount of long lasting
>>>> material there is in one reusable bag compared to the number of
>>>> bags it replaces. One benefit of the reusable bags is that you can
>>>> get 5-6 times as much into one, making it easier to carry more
>>>> stuff out to the car and into the house, provided that you have
>>>> the physical strength to carry the heavier bags. I am a big guy
>>>> and in good enough shape to carry 5-6 large bags with handles, so
>>>> I can carry a week's grocery's into the house in one trip.
>>>
>>>We bought several extra large, heavy duty, insulated canvas bags from
>>>Costco. Each bag will typically hold the equivalent of 4-5
>>>supermarket plastic bags, plus they have a heavy duty zipper on top.
>>>These are made so well that they should last for years, plus they
>>>endure the AZ heat and protect our produce and frozen products.
>>>Granted, these bags can be quite heavy when fully loaded, but we park
>>>quite a distance from our unit, and use a folding shopping cart to
>>>transport the bags from the car. We also have several smaller canvas
>>>bags to use when we're only shopping for a few items.

>>
>> I have the same ones. They aren't going to wear out in the next 10
>> years or so.
>> Janet US

>
>I have them too, the problem for me is remembering to bring them in many
>times.
>
>Cheri
>

my bags live on the back seat of the truck. They are always with me.
Janet US
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On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 3:12:58 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
> >
> >"Somebody gave me a $10 bag of coffee beans. I'll quickly buy a $20
> >grinder so I can have me some coffee! Am I a lucky ******* or what?"

>
> $10 worth of mediocre coffee beans weighs like 2 pounds tops, not
> enough to make it worth buying a coffee grinder. Where does one buy a
> coffee grinder for $20... the lowest priced coffee grinders cost over
> $100.... can hardly buy a decent peppercorn grinder for $20.
> Anyway since you asked I'd say you're much more of a stupid *******.
> LOL


I know you're going to nitpick over the meaning of the word "grind".
However, here's the cheapest electric blade coffee mill that I found
on Amazon:

<https://www.amazon.com/Ovente-Electric-Grinder-Stainless-CG225W/dp/B0118FH5EY>

A conical burr mill can be had for less than $100. Here's a very inexpensive
one:

<https://www.amazon.com/Accevo-Manual-Coffee-Grinder-Press/dp/B01HVGE308>

Here's a halfway decent electric one:

<https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CBM-18N-Programmable-Conical-Burr/dp/B001NGO28Q>

Obviously, coffee snobs wouldn't settle for any of these.

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:40:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:58:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri 24 Mar 2017 02:50:45p, Dave Smith told us...
>>
>>> On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the
>>>> store really promote the use of them.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a
>>> limited life and they too will end up in the landfill and take
>>> just as long to decompose. I am not sure how far ahead we are
>>> using them. You have to consider the amount of long lasting
>>> material there is in one reusable bag compared to the number of
>>> bags it replaces. One benefit of the reusable bags is that you can
>>> get 5-6 times as much into one, making it easier to carry more
>>> stuff out to the car and into the house, provided that you have
>>> the physical strength to carry the heavier bags. I am a big guy
>>> and in good enough shape to carry 5-6 large bags with handles, so
>>> I can carry a week's grocery's into the house in one trip.

>>
>>We bought several extra large, heavy duty, insulated canvas bags from
>>Costco. Each bag will typically hold the equivalent of 4-5
>>supermarket plastic bags, plus they have a heavy duty zipper on top.
>>These are made so well that they should last for years, plus they
>>endure the AZ heat and protect our produce and frozen products.
>>Granted, these bags can be quite heavy when fully loaded, but we park
>>quite a distance from our unit, and use a folding shopping cart to
>>transport the bags from the car. We also have several smaller canvas
>>bags to use when we're only shopping for a few items.

>
>I have the same ones. They aren't going to wear out in the next 10
>years or so.
>Janet US


I have a pile of those insulated bags for perishables and also a heap
of plain canvas bags. But still I have groceries placed in plastic
bags, prevents leakers from fercockting up my cloth bags, and also I
use the plastic bags for used cat litter... and still I buy cartons of
a thousand plastic bags for cat litter, BJs sells them a thousand for
$9.99. Those plastic bags decompose rather quickly when exposed to
the elements especially UV... I use several in my garden and at best
they last three months in the sun.
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> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:45:49 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:58:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri 24 Mar 2017 02:50:45p, Dave Smith told us...
>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the
>>>>>> store really promote the use of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a
>>>>> limited life and they too will end up in the landfill and take
>>>>> just as long to decompose. I am not sure how far ahead we are
>>>>> using them. You have to consider the amount of long lasting
>>>>> material there is in one reusable bag compared to the number of
>>>>> bags it replaces. One benefit of the reusable bags is that you can
>>>>> get 5-6 times as much into one, making it easier to carry more
>>>>> stuff out to the car and into the house, provided that you have
>>>>> the physical strength to carry the heavier bags. I am a big guy
>>>>> and in good enough shape to carry 5-6 large bags with handles, so
>>>>> I can carry a week's grocery's into the house in one trip.
>>>>
>>>>We bought several extra large, heavy duty, insulated canvas bags from
>>>>Costco. Each bag will typically hold the equivalent of 4-5
>>>>supermarket plastic bags, plus they have a heavy duty zipper on top.
>>>>These are made so well that they should last for years, plus they
>>>>endure the AZ heat and protect our produce and frozen products.
>>>>Granted, these bags can be quite heavy when fully loaded, but we park
>>>>quite a distance from our unit, and use a folding shopping cart to
>>>>transport the bags from the car. We also have several smaller canvas
>>>>bags to use when we're only shopping for a few items.
>>>
>>> I have the same ones. They aren't going to wear out in the next 10
>>> years or so.
>>> Janet US

>>
>>I have them too, the problem for me is remembering to bring them in many
>>times.
>>
>>Cheri
>>

> my bags live on the back seat of the truck. They are always with me.
> Janet US



Mine too, it's remembering to take them in the store at times that's the
problem.

Cheri

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> I have a pile of those insulated bags for perishables and also a heap
> of plain canvas bags. But still I have groceries placed in plastic
> bags, prevents leakers from fercockting up my cloth bags, and also I
> use the plastic bags for used cat litter... and still I buy cartons of
> a thousand plastic bags for cat litter, BJs sells them a thousand for
> $9.99. Those plastic bags decompose rather quickly when exposed to
> the elements especially UV... I use several in my garden and at best
> they last three months in the sun.



The canvas bags are easily laundered if they happen to get messy.

Cheri

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>"Taxed and Spent" wrote:
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>> Would you share those bags with a neighbor?

>
>I wouldn't share my cloth bags, but if I take several of the "paid plastic"
>bags into a store and someone forgot to bring their bags (usually men) I
>will give them a couple of mine.
>
>Cheri


Usually men, eh... I'd probably ask to borrow your bra to carry my
groceries.
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 08:59:22 -0700, "Cheri" >
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>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:45:49 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
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snip
>>>
>>>I have them too, the problem for me is remembering to bring them in many
>>>times.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>>

>> my bags live on the back seat of the truck. They are always with me.
>> Janet US

>
>
>Mine too, it's remembering to take them in the store at times that's the
>problem.
>
>Cheri

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> On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 08:59:22 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
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>>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:45:49 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>

> snip
>>>>
>>>>I have them too, the problem for me is remembering to bring them in many
>>>>times.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>>
>>> my bags live on the back seat of the truck. They are always with me.
>>> Janet US

>>
>>
>>Mine too, it's remembering to take them in the store at times that's the
>>problem.
>>
>>Cheri

> BTDT



I'm getting better at it.

Cheri

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 03:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 3:12:58 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> >"Somebody gave me a $10 bag of coffee beans. I'll quickly buy a $20
>> >grinder so I can have me some coffee! Am I a lucky ******* or what?"

>>
>> $10 worth of mediocre coffee beans weighs like 2 pounds tops, not
>> enough to make it worth buying a coffee grinder. Where does one buy a
>> coffee grinder for $20... the lowest priced coffee grinders cost over
>> $100.... can hardly buy a decent peppercorn grinder for $20.
>> Anyway since you asked I'd say you're much more of a stupid *******.
>> LOL

>
>I know you're going to nitpick over the meaning of the word "grind".
>However, here's the cheapest electric blade coffee mill that I found
>on Amazon:
>
><https://www.amazon.com/Ovente-Electric-Grinder-Stainless-CG225W/dp/B0118FH5EY>


Naming those thingies grinders is a misnomer, they do NOT grind...
they are more a mini food processor.
>
>A conical burr mill can be had for less than $100. Here's a very inexpensive
>one:
>
><https://www.amazon.com/Accevo-Manual-Coffee-Grinder-Press/dp/B01HVGE308>


That's a cheapo pepper mill.... there are far better versions of
Turkish coffee mills that make excellent pepper mills

>Here's a halfway decent electric one:
>
><https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CBM-18N-Programmable-Conical-Burr/dp/B001NGO28Q>
>
>Obviously, coffee snobs wouldn't settle for any of these.


Those kind work okay when new but from the reviews I've read in the
past and from my own experience they don't last long. I've owned
several coffee grinders, none of those under a few hundred dollars
equal the commercial grinders found at markets... they gind
inconsistantly, clog easily, build up a static charge which makes for
great messiness, and none last long. I used to grind (and roast) my
own coffee beans but for the past few years I've been using Walmart
brand (Best Value) ground coffee and have found it produces better
tasting coffee consistantly than any others... yes I was once one of
those coffee snobs but I've come to my senses.
This is excellent coffee:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Val....2-oz/47064336
I like their dark roast too:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Val....2-oz/47930394
In 1970 I started my own coffee business, this was before there were
ADCs for the home. I bought Bunn ADCs, only sold to commercial
operations, and set them up at various businesses; banks, beauty
parlors, office spaces, etc. It was a very lucreyive business, I
actually netted more profit selling Solo cups. I had to attend the
Coffee College for a week sponsored by Continental Coffee in Chicago
so I know a little something about coffee... the most important
element for brewing good coffee is the water.
Read the reviews.
I buy it at the store.
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>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:45:49 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:58:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri 24 Mar 2017 02:50:45p, Dave Smith told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically the
>>>>>>> store really promote the use of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a
>>>>>> limited life and they too will end up in the landfill and take
>>>>>> just as long to decompose. I am not sure how far ahead we are
>>>>>> using them. You have to consider the amount of long lasting
>>>>>> material there is in one reusable bag compared to the number of
>>>>>> bags it replaces. One benefit of the reusable bags is that you can
>>>>>> get 5-6 times as much into one, making it easier to carry more
>>>>>> stuff out to the car and into the house, provided that you have
>>>>>> the physical strength to carry the heavier bags. I am a big guy
>>>>>> and in good enough shape to carry 5-6 large bags with handles, so
>>>>>> I can carry a week's grocery's into the house in one trip.
>>>>>
>>>>>We bought several extra large, heavy duty, insulated canvas bags from
>>>>>Costco. Each bag will typically hold the equivalent of 4-5
>>>>>supermarket plastic bags, plus they have a heavy duty zipper on top.
>>>>>These are made so well that they should last for years, plus they
>>>>>endure the AZ heat and protect our produce and frozen products.
>>>>>Granted, these bags can be quite heavy when fully loaded, but we park
>>>>>quite a distance from our unit, and use a folding shopping cart to
>>>>>transport the bags from the car. We also have several smaller canvas
>>>>>bags to use when we're only shopping for a few items.
>>>>
>>>> I have the same ones. They aren't going to wear out in the next 10
>>>> years or so.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>I have them too, the problem for me is remembering to bring them in many
>>>times.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>>

>> my bags live on the back seat of the truck. They are always with me.
>> Janet US

>
>
>Mine too, it's remembering to take them in the store at times that's the
>problem.
>
>Cheri


You can always bring your groceries to you vehicle and bag them there.
The Costco I used to shop didn't do any bagging, you had to bring them
to your vehicle in the cart... they'd ring them up and place them in
an empty cart. In summer I rebag because in hot weather I bring an
ice chest for perishables.
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> wrote in message
.. .
>
>> I have a pile of those insulated bags for perishables and also a heap
>> of plain canvas bags. But still I have groceries placed in plastic
>> bags, prevents leakers from fercockting up my cloth bags, and also I
>> use the plastic bags for used cat litter... and still I buy cartons of
>> a thousand plastic bags for cat litter, BJs sells them a thousand for
>> $9.99. Those plastic bags decompose rather quickly when exposed to
>> the elements especially UV... I use several in my garden and at best
>> they last three months in the sun.

>
>
>The canvas bags are easily laundered if they happen to get messy.
>
>Cheri


True but it's easier not to get them dirty. And the canvas bags leak
too, I don't need milk or meat blood leaking in my car.
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On 2017-03-25 3:03 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> IME, after laundering canvas bags (no bleach), they become as limp as a
> rag and begin to deteriorate more quickly afterwards. Unless it
> becomes absolutely necessary, I won't wash them.


Around here they charge for plastic bags, but most places have special
bags for meats to stop the dripping and contamination and they don't
charge for them.

One problem with re-usable bags is that sometimes we don't do good job
of unpacking and something small gets left in a bag. The bags get taken
back out to the car, taken into a store and, in the midst of packing we
find the forgotten object and it looks like we are trying to steal it.





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On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:06:25 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
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>On Sat 25 Mar 2017 08:59:22a, Cheri told us...
>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:45:49 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:58:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri 24 Mar 2017 02:50:45p, Dave Smith told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2017-03-24 3:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One not so perfect solution is reusable bags. Periodically
>>>>>>>> the store really promote the use of them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed. They are not the perfect solution because they have a
>>>>>>> limited life and they too will end up in the landfill and
>>>>>>> take just as long to decompose. I am not sure how far ahead
>>>>>>> we are using them. You have to consider the amount of long
>>>>>>> lasting material there is in one reusable bag compared to the
>>>>>>> number of bags it replaces. One benefit of the reusable bags
>>>>>>> is that you can get 5-6 times as much into one, making it
>>>>>>> easier to carry more stuff out to the car and into the house,
>>>>>>> provided that you have the physical strength to carry the
>>>>>>> heavier bags. I am a big guy and in good enough shape to
>>>>>>> carry 5-6 large bags with handles, so I can carry a week's
>>>>>>> grocery's into the house in one trip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We bought several extra large, heavy duty, insulated canvas
>>>>>>bags from Costco. Each bag will typically hold the equivalent
>>>>>>of 4-5 supermarket plastic bags, plus they have a heavy duty
>>>>>>zipper on top. These are made so well that they should last for
>>>>>>years, plus they endure the AZ heat and protect our produce and
>>>>>>frozen products. Granted, these bags can be quite heavy when
>>>>>>fully loaded, but we park quite a distance from our unit, and
>>>>>>use a folding shopping cart to transport the bags from the car.
>>>>>> We also have several smaller canvas bags to use when we're
>>>>>>only shopping for a few items.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the same ones. They aren't going to wear out in the
>>>>> next 10 years or so.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>>I have them too, the problem for me is remembering to bring them
>>>>in many times.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>>
>>> my bags live on the back seat of the truck. They are always with
>>> me. Janet US

>>
>>
>> Mine too, it's remembering to take them in the store at times
>> that's the problem.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>

>
>We keep ours in the boot and are pretty good about putting them back
>at the next trip to the car. In our place there's no good place to
>store them and it's obvious when they're just laying about. :-)



After we unpack the groceries, we hang the cloth bags on the doorknob
for the garage, then the next time someone goes out, they get brought
along and tossed into a vehicle.

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> Mine too, it's remembering to take them in the store at times that's the
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That happened to me last week, so I sprang for a couple of paper bags.


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> After we unpack the groceries, we hang the cloth bags on the doorknob
> for the garage, then the next time someone goes out, they get brought
> along and tossed into a vehicle.


Ditto, except that someone is usually me because hubby manages to
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