On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
> Tax on food????

Yep. Some states tax food. Tennessee did when I lived there, at a
whopping 9.25%. I believe they've lowered it for food since, but not
eliminated it.

My mother, being a military wife and lifetime military dependent,
shopped at the commissary. No sales tax. When I got here she stopped
shopping but I couldn't go to the commissary. I had to shop at the
local supermarkets. She said "They'll charge tax!" Even she didn't
realize, and it took me a long time to also realize, there is no sales
tax on food in SC.

But yes, there are some states that do charge sales tax on food. Here's
a link to 2017 info:

http://tinyurl.com/l3cl56b

Jill

On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:09:43 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>> Tax on food????
>
>Yep. Some states tax food. Tennessee did when I lived there, at a
>whopping 9.25%. I believe they've lowered it for food since, but not
>eliminated it.
>
>My mother, being a military wife and lifetime military dependent,
>shopped at the commissary. No sales tax. When I got here she stopped
>shopping but I couldn't go to the commissary. I had to shop at the
>local supermarkets. She said "They'll charge tax!" Even she didn't
>realize, and it took me a long time to also realize, there is no sales
>tax on food in SC.
>
>But yes, there are some states that do charge sales tax on food. Here's
>a link to 2017 info:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/l3cl56b

It doesn't really matter whether they tax you for food, dog ownership,
playing cards or brothel visits. What matters is the total tax burden.

On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:09:43 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>> Tax on food????
>
>Yep. Some states tax food. Tennessee did when I lived there, at a
>whopping 9.25%. I believe they've lowered it for food since, but not
>eliminated it.
>
>My mother, being a military wife and lifetime military dependent,
>shopped at the commissary. No sales tax. When I got here she stopped
>shopping but I couldn't go to the commissary. I had to shop at the
>local supermarkets. She said "They'll charge tax!" Even she didn't
>realize, and it took me a long time to also realize, there is no sales
>tax on food in SC.
>
>But yes, there are some states that do charge sales tax on food. Here's
>a link to 2017 info:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/l3cl56b
>
>Jill

welcome to my world.
Janet US

On 3/27/2017 10:22 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:09:43 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>> Tax on food????
>>
>> Yep. Some states tax food. Tennessee did when I lived there, at a
>> whopping 9.25%. I believe they've lowered it for food since, but not
>> eliminated it.
>>
>> My mother, being a military wife and lifetime military dependent,
>> shopped at the commissary. No sales tax. When I got here she stopped
>> shopping but I couldn't go to the commissary. I had to shop at the
>> local supermarkets. She said "They'll charge tax!" Even she didn't
>> realize, and it took me a long time to also realize, there is no sales
>> tax on food in SC.
>>
>> But yes, there are some states that do charge sales tax on food. Here's
>> a link to 2017 info:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/l3cl56b
>>
>> Jill
>
> welcome to my world.
> Janet US
>
Don't blame me. I was used to paying tax for food. It never occurred
to me other states were different.

Jill

On 3/27/2017 3:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>
>>> So.... this week here, 3lbs ground beef and 10lbs chicken quarters
>>> all for only $10 plus tax.
>>
>> Tax on food????
>>
>
>
> Pretty sleazy to tax it IMO, but some do.
>
> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
> Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008

As far as I know, Safeway is charging me 4.712% on my food purchases. If
it were up to me, I'd be charging 1% on food purchases. Poi, of course,
would be sold tax free.

On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:26:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
> Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008

Michigan gave up on taxing food? That's good. It was wonderful
moving to California, having more variety, better quality and no tax
on food.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:38:02 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:
>
> I read somewhere that Chicago has an entertainment tax. So if you buy
> a concert ticket or a ticket for a sports event, you pay a bit extra
> because that's entertainment. Or that's how I understood it.

Cities get you one way or another. San Francisco wallops tourists
with a huge hotel tax.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 23:11:24 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:38:02 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>>
>> I read somewhere that Chicago has an entertainment tax. So if you buy
>> a concert ticket or a ticket for a sports event, you pay a bit extra
>> because that's entertainment. Or that's how I understood it.
>
>Cities get you one way or another. San Francisco wallops tourists
>with a huge hotel tax.

Yes, it doesn't really matter how they collect it.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>
>>> So.... this week here, 3lbs ground beef and 10lbs chicken quarters
>>> all for only $10 plus tax.
>>
>> Tax on food????
>>
>
>
> Pretty sleazy to tax it IMO, but some do.
>
> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%), Virginia
> (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008


They tried a "snack tax" here in CA, but it didn't last long. Big surprise
that the lawmakers could never decide what was a snack food and what wasn't
so they did away with it. It was stupid in the first place.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>
>>> So.... this week here, 3lbs ground beef and 10lbs chicken quarters
>>> all for only $10 plus tax.
>>
>> Tax on food????
>>
>
>
> Pretty sleazy to tax it IMO, but some do.
>
> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%), Virginia
> (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008


They tried a "snack tax" here in CA, but it didn't last long. Big surprise
that the lawmakers could never decide what was a snack food and what wasn't
so they did away with it. It was stupid in the first place.

Cheri

================

When we buy something, the tax is included in the price. We never see
*price* + *tax*



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 2:09:42 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:26:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
> > (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
> > (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
> > Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
>
> Michigan gave up on taxing food? That's good. It was wonderful
> moving to California, having more variety, better quality and no tax
> on food.

I think you'd find that we have quite a good variety and excellent
quality nowadays, at least in urban meccas like Ann Arbor. Not so
much in places where nobody wants to live anyway.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 03:19:31 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 2:09:42 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:26:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> > States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>> > (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>> > (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
>> > Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
>>
>> Michigan gave up on taxing food? That's good. It was wonderful
>> moving to California, having more variety, better quality and no tax
>> on food.
>
>I think you'd find that we have quite a good variety and excellent
>quality nowadays, at least in urban meccas like Ann Arbor. Not so
>much in places where nobody wants to live anyway.

Those tend to be the places where I want to live. I'm lucky that few
people have such good taste.

On 2017-03-27 10:37 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> Don't blame me. I was used to paying tax for food. It never occurred
> to me other states were different.


That is one thing we don't pay tax on, with some exceptions. There is
sales tax on snack foods, soft drinks, some specialty prepared foods,
restaurant meals over $4. For some foods, like baked goods, you are
charged tax if you get only one or two, but not if you get a half dozen.
Meat, dairy products, fruit, vegetables, packaged cookies and prepared
foods are all tax free.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 03:19:31 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 2:09:42 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:26:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> > States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>> > (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>> > (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
>> > Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
>>
>> Michigan gave up on taxing food? That's good. It was wonderful
>> moving to California, having more variety, better quality and no tax
>> on food.
>
>I think you'd find that we have quite a good variety and excellent
>quality nowadays, at least in urban meccas like Ann Arbor. Not so
>much in places where nobody wants to live anyway.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

It's the large crowded cities that have more food variety, however I
find less food variety is an excellent trade off for low population
density. I spent most of my life living in high population density
areas with a large variety of ethnic foods but I don't miss it it one
bit, and in most instances I can prepare very acceptable versions of
those dishes myself by substituting a few ingredients. And nowadays
any ingredients are readily available on line. A big plus is that
living in an agricultural community the freshest produce is available
in season and at low prices, and with so many local livestock farmers
excellent fresh meats are available all year. I grow a lot of my own
produce and trade my overage with other home growers, and several
trade for the finast honey and maple syrup. There's lots of fresh
water fish available locally but I admit to missing fresh seafood...
to me unless seafood was caught more than 3-4 hours ago it's no longer
fresh... where I lived on Lung Guyland I had a five minute walk to
water's edge, I'd be grilling fish for dinner out of the surf no more
than 30 minutes ago. I enjoyed surf casting, dinner was always a
surprise, could catch anything from a few flounder/fluke, to a large
cod, halibut, even shark... fresh caught grilled shark steak is
delicious.

On 2017-03-28 2:09 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:26:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
>> Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
>
> Michigan gave up on taxing food? That's good. It was wonderful
> moving to California, having more variety, better quality and no tax
> on food.
>
>
From what I saw of food prices in California you would be better off
paying our prices and paying taxes where they apply (not on most grocery
items). For instance, bananas were running 59-69 cents per pound Cdn
here, but were 99 cents US.. over $1.30 Cdn at the time.

On 2017-03-28 2:11 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:38:02 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>>
>> I read somewhere that Chicago has an entertainment tax. So if you buy
>> a concert ticket or a ticket for a sports event, you pay a bit extra
>> because that's entertainment. Or that's how I understood it.
>
> Cities get you one way or another. San Francisco wallops tourists
> with a huge hotel tax.
>
>
You should check out the scam in Niagara Falls. They have some sort of
tourist destination surcharge that varies from from one place to another
and is semi voluntary. Most places will cancel it if you ask, and the
money does not even go to the government.

On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:22:25 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:09:43 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>> Tax on food????
>>
>>Yep. Some states tax food. Tennessee did when I lived there, at a
>>whopping 9.25%. I believe they've lowered it for food since, but not
>>eliminated it.
>>
>>My mother, being a military wife and lifetime military dependent,
>>shopped at the commissary. No sales tax. When I got here she stopped
>>shopping but I couldn't go to the commissary. I had to shop at the
>>local supermarkets. She said "They'll charge tax!" Even she didn't
>>realize, and it took me a long time to also realize, there is no sales
>>tax on food in SC.
>>
>>But yes, there are some states that do charge sales tax on food. Here's
>>a link to 2017 info:
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/l3cl56b
>>
>>Jill
>
>welcome to my world.
>Janet US

In NY there's tax on non food items like TP and soda but not on food.
I can't figure why there's tax on soda but not on coffee and tea...
best I can figure is they are taxing the water because flavored syrups
are not taxed.

On 2017-03-28 12:13 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>
>>>> So.... this week here, 3lbs ground beef and 10lbs chicken quarters
>>>> all for only $10 plus tax.
>>>
>>> Tax on food????
>>>
>>
>>
>> Pretty sleazy to tax it IMO, but some do.
>>
>> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
>> Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11,
>> 2008
>
>
> They tried a "snack tax" here in CA, but it didn't last long. Big
> surprise that the lawmakers could never decide what was a snack food and
> what wasn't so they did away with it. It was stupid in the first place.
>
> Cheri
Snacks are taxed here. I bought one chocolate scone the other day and
paid sales tax. Had I bought several, tax would not have been added.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:13:37 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Cheri" wrote in message news >
>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>
>>>> So.... this week here, 3lbs ground beef and 10lbs chicken quarters
>>>> all for only $10 plus tax.
>>>
>>> Tax on food????
>>>
>>
>>
>> Pretty sleazy to tax it IMO, but some do.
>>
>> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%), Virginia
>> (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
>
>
>They tried a "snack tax" here in CA, but it didn't last long. Big surprise
>that the lawmakers could never decide what was a snack food and what wasn't
>so they did away with it. It was stupid in the first place.
>
>Cheri
>
>================
>
>When we buy something, the tax is included in the price. We never see
>*price* + *tax*

on your cash register receipt, everything you bought will be itemized
and totaled and the tax will be applied to the total. When you see
the price of an item on the shelf or the item itself, it does not say
the tax amount.
Janet US

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:48:27 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:22:25 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:09:43 -0400, jmcquown >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>>> Tax on food????
>>>
>>>Yep. Some states tax food. Tennessee did when I lived there, at a
>>>whopping 9.25%. I believe they've lowered it for food since, but not
>>>eliminated it.
>>>
>>>My mother, being a military wife and lifetime military dependent,
>>>shopped at the commissary. No sales tax. When I got here she stopped
>>>shopping but I couldn't go to the commissary. I had to shop at the
>>>local supermarkets. She said "They'll charge tax!" Even she didn't
>>>realize, and it took me a long time to also realize, there is no sales
>>>tax on food in SC.
>>>
>>>But yes, there are some states that do charge sales tax on food. Here's
>>>a link to 2017 info:
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/l3cl56b
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>>welcome to my world.
>>Janet US
>
>In NY there's tax on non food items like TP and soda but not on food.
>I can't figure why there's tax on soda but not on coffee and tea...
>best I can figure is they are taxing the water because flavored syrups
>are not taxed.

the righteous have applied a sin tax to the soda
Janet US

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:30:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-03-28 2:09 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:26:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>>> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>>> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
>>> Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
>>
>> Michigan gave up on taxing food? That's good. It was wonderful
>> moving to California, having more variety, better quality and no tax
>> on food.
>>
>>
> From what I saw of food prices in California you would be better off
>paying our prices and paying taxes where they apply (not on most grocery
>items). For instance, bananas were running 59-69 cents per pound Cdn
>here, but were 99 cents US.. over $1.30 Cdn at the time.

I've never seen 99¢/lb bananas in the US, they are generally 49¢/lb
here, sometimes on sale at 39¢/lb, so-called claimed organics are 10¢
more. When I lived in S. Cal during the '60s bananas were the same
price as in NY, 19¢/lb. Bananas don't store well so they need to be
priced to move quickly. Ripe bananas don't ship well so they are
shipped green, but in Belize you can buy plantation ripened, they
taste very different from those ripened off the plant. Field ripened
pineapple is far superior to those picked green. I refuse to buy
those awful green pineapples sold in US markets because once picked
pineapple does not ripen, it ferments so people think that rotting
fruit is how pineapple is supposed to taste. On the US mainland only
canned pineapple is processed field ripened.

On 3/28/2017 7:30 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:48:27 -0400, wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:22:25 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:09:43 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>> Tax on food????
>>>>
>>>> Yep. Some states tax food. Tennessee did when I lived there, at a
>>>> whopping 9.25%. I believe they've lowered it for food since, but not
>>>> eliminated it.
>>>>
>>>> My mother, being a military wife and lifetime military dependent,
>>>> shopped at the commissary. No sales tax. When I got here she stopped
>>>> shopping but I couldn't go to the commissary. I had to shop at the
>>>> local supermarkets. She said "They'll charge tax!" Even she didn't
>>>> realize, and it took me a long time to also realize, there is no sales
>>>> tax on food in SC.
>>>>
>>>> But yes, there are some states that do charge sales tax on food. Here's
>>>> a link to 2017 info:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/l3cl56b
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> welcome to my world.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> In NY there's tax on non food items like TP and soda but not on food.
>> I can't figure why there's tax on soda but not on coffee and tea...
>> best I can figure is they are taxing the water because flavored syrups
>> are not taxed.
>
> the righteous have applied a sin tax to the soda
> Janet US
>

you mean "self-righteous"

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:37:54 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 3/28/2017 7:30 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:48:27 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>
snip
>>>
>>> In NY there's tax on non food items like TP and soda but not on food.
>>> I can't figure why there's tax on soda but not on coffee and tea...
>>> best I can figure is they are taxing the water because flavored syrups
>>> are not taxed.
>>
>> the righteous have applied a sin tax to the soda
>> Janet US
>>
>
>you mean "self-righteous"

nodding

On 2017-03-28 10:26 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:13:37 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:

> on your cash register receipt, everything you bought will be itemized
> and totaled and the tax will be applied to the total. When you see
> the price of an item on the shelf or the item itself, it does not say
> the tax amount.

There are pros and cons to that. On this side of the ocean most people
want the tax to be added to the sticker price. That makes it obvious how
much tax they are paying. In Europe the trend seems to be to include it
in the price. In restaurants over there menu prices also usually include
service. That makes things much easier for people. They see $10 on the
menu and it means $10, not $8 to which we add the applicable sales tax
and 15% or more tip, bringing it to more than $10.

On 2017-03-28 10:30 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>> In NY there's tax on non food items like TP and soda but not on food.
>> I can't figure why there's tax on soda but not on coffee and tea...
>> best I can figure is they are taxing the water because flavored syrups
>> are not taxed.
>
> the righteous have applied a sin tax to the soda

It is sales tax, not sin tax. If it were sin tax it would be a lot more.
I find it annoying that they slap a sin tax on certain vice items with
the idea that charging more for it will discourage consumption, and then
they turn around and increase the tax with the idea that if you can
afford to pay so much for booze it is a luxury so you should pay more.

>

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:58:32 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-03-28 12:13 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So.... this week here, 3lbs ground beef and 10lbs chicken quarters
>>>>> all for only $10 plus tax.
>>>>
>>>> Tax on food????
>>>
>>> Pretty sleazy to tax it IMO, but some do.
>>>
>>> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>>> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>>> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
>>> Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11,
>>> 2008
>>
>>
>> They tried a "snack tax" here in CA, but it didn't last long. Big
>> surprise that the lawmakers could never decide what was a snack food and
>> what wasn't so they did away with it. It was stupid in the first place.
>>
>> Cheri
>Snacks are taxed here. I bought one chocolate scone the other day and
>paid sales tax. Had I bought several, tax would not have been added.

In NY markets candy is taxed, but a chocolate cake from a bakery is
not taxed, nor is ice cream, even those loaded with confections. I
wonder who decided that a candy bar should be taxed but not ice cream
loaded with chopped up candy bars, however a Dove Bar and other
individually wrapped ice creams are taxed as a confection. Just
proves how politicians are arbitrary non-thinking pinheads.
The lawyer I used for some thirty years on Long Island explained to me
how attorneys who can't make in private practice, primarily due to
possessing no people skills and common sense, become judges and
politicians.

On 2017-03-28 10:36 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:30:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-03-28 2:09 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:26:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>>>> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>>>> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
>>>> Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
>>>
>>> Michigan gave up on taxing food? That's good. It was wonderful
>>> moving to California, having more variety, better quality and no tax
>>> on food.
>>>
>>>
>> From what I saw of food prices in California you would be better off
>> paying our prices and paying taxes where they apply (not on most grocery
>> items). For instance, bananas were running 59-69 cents per pound Cdn
>> here, but were 99 cents US.. over $1.30 Cdn at the time.
>
> I've never seen 99¢/lb bananas in the US, they are generally 49¢/lb
> here, sometimes on sale at 39¢/lb, so-called claimed organics are 10¢
> more. When I lived in S. Cal during the '60s bananas were the same
> price as in NY, 19¢/lb.

I was talking about last fall when I was there. I was really surprised
to see a lot of produce the same price or more than we pay, and that was
in US funds. I used to do a fair amount of cross border shopping 15-20
years ago. Our dollar was weak at the time but there were a lot of
things that were still much cheaper. Produce tended to be the same
sticker price, but US funds. For instance, a head of lettuce was 99
cents CDN here and 99 cents US there...... $135 Cdn.

On 2017-03-28 10:55 AM, wrote:

> In NY markets candy is taxed, but a chocolate cake from a bakery is
> not taxed, nor is ice cream, even those loaded with confections.

In Ontario I have to pay sales tax in a donut or a muffin, but if I buy
a half dozen or more there is no tax. There is no provincial tax on a
restaurant meal under $4 but there is a federal tax. If I go to the
corner bakery and get a coffee and a muffin there is a 5% federal tax
(GST) but no provincial tax and the total will be $3.80. If my wife is
with me and has the same, that puts it over $4 so I have to pay the
provincial and the federal and it is almost $1 extra in tax.


I
> wonder who decided that a candy bar should be taxed but not ice cream
> loaded with chopped up candy bars, however a Dove Bar and other
> individually wrapped ice creams are taxed as a confection. Just
> proves how politicians are arbitrary non-thinking pinheads.
> The lawyer I used for some thirty years on Long Island explained to me
> how attorneys who can't make in private practice, primarily due to
> possessing no people skills and common sense, become judges and
> politicians.
>
>

On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:09:43 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>> Tax on food????
>
>Yep. Some states tax food. Tennessee did when I lived there, at a
>whopping 9.25%. I believe they've lowered it for food since, but not
>eliminated it.
>
>My mother, being a military wife and lifetime military dependent,
>shopped at the commissary. No sales tax. When I got here she stopped
>shopping but I couldn't go to the commissary. I had to shop at the
>local supermarkets. She said "They'll charge tax!" Even she didn't
>realize, and it took me a long time to also realize, there is no sales
>tax on food in SC.
>
>But yes, there are some states that do charge sales tax on food. Here's
>a link to 2017 info:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/l3cl56b
>
>Jill

A bill to repeal our state grocery tax heads to the governor.
Democrats are for repealing it and Republicans are for keeping it. Our
tea party governor will ax the bill.
We also have a lovely gasoline tax here. The tax money helps our
government sue the federal government for anything regarded as
impingement of state's rights. The lawsuit bill runs pretty darn high
and always the suits come to naught.
Did I mention that I live in the reddist of red states?
Janet US

On 3/28/2017 11:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

> In Ontario I have to pay sales tax in a donut or a muffin, but if I buy
> a half dozen or more there is no tax. There is no provincial tax on a
> restaurant meal under $4 but there is a federal tax. If I go to the
> corner bakery and get a coffee and a muffin there is a 5% federal tax
> (GST) but no provincial tax and the total will be $3.80. If my wife is
> with me and has the same, that puts it over $4 so I have to pay the
> provincial and the federal and it is almost $1 extra in tax.

Separate checks, please.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:47:50 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 28 Mar 2017 06:24:26a, Dave Smith told us...
>
>> On 2017-03-27 10:37 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Don't blame me. I was used to paying tax for food. It never
>>> occurred to me other states were different.
>>
>>
>> That is one thing we don't pay tax on, with some exceptions. There
>> is sales tax on snack foods, soft drinks, some specialty prepared
>> foods, restaurant meals over $4. For some foods, like baked goods,
>> you are charged tax if you get only one or two, but not if you get
>> a half dozen. Meat, dairy products, fruit, vegetables, packaged
>> cookies and prepared foods are all tax free.
>>
>>
>
>Both in OH and AZ we paid no tax on any foods, with the exclusions only
>on beverages, beer, and liquor. I don't think it was mentioned here,
>we pay tax on all restauant food and and fast food regardless of
>whether it's consumed on premises or takeout.
>
>In Mississippi where most of relatives live, tax is paid on everything
>anywhere. Mississippi being one of the poorest states.

we just have a sales tax (everything) The state gives us a set amount
grocery rebate on our tax preparation
Janet US

On 2017-03-28 8:26 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:13:37 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So.... this week here, 3lbs ground beef and 10lbs chicken quarters
>>>>> all for only $10 plus tax.
>>>>
>>>> Tax on food????
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pretty sleazy to tax it IMO, but some do.
>>>
>>> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>>> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>>> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%), Virginia
>>> (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
>>
>>
>> They tried a "snack tax" here in CA, but it didn't last long. Big surprise
>> that the lawmakers could never decide what was a snack food and what wasn't
>> so they did away with it. It was stupid in the first place.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> ================
>>
>> When we buy something, the tax is included in the price. We never see
>> *price* + *tax*
>
> on your cash register receipt, everything you bought will be itemized
> and totaled and the tax will be applied to the total. When you see
> the price of an item on the shelf or the item itself, it does not say
> the tax amount.
> Janet US
>
When it first came in, the tax was added but so many places decided to
include it in the price that the legislation was emended.

On 2017-03-28 12:26 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-03-28 8:26 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:13:37 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> So.... this week here, 3lbs ground beef and 10lbs chicken quarters
>>>>>> all for only $10 plus tax.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tax on food????
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pretty sleazy to tax it IMO, but some do.
>>>>
>>>> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>>>> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>>>> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
>>>> Virginia
>>>> (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
>>>
>>>
>>> They tried a "snack tax" here in CA, but it didn't last long. Big
>>> surprise
>>> that the lawmakers could never decide what was a snack food and what
>>> wasn't
>>> so they did away with it. It was stupid in the first place.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> ================
>>>
>>> When we buy something, the tax is included in the price. We never see
>>> *price* + *tax*
>>
>> on your cash register receipt, everything you bought will be itemized
>> and totaled and the tax will be applied to the total. When you see
>> the price of an item on the shelf or the item itself, it does not say
>> the tax amount.
>> Janet US
>>
> When it first came in, the tax was added but so many places decided to
> include it in the price that the legislation was emended.

Of course that was the UK.
In Alberta a few wine stores included the tax in the price but that
confused those who comparison shop so they all went back to adding it at
the end.

On 2017-03-28 12:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/28/2017 11:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> In Ontario I have to pay sales tax in a donut or a muffin, but if I buy
>> a half dozen or more there is no tax. There is no provincial tax on a
>> restaurant meal under $4 but there is a federal tax. If I go to the
>> corner bakery and get a coffee and a muffin there is a 5% federal tax
>> (GST) but no provincial tax and the total will be $3.80. If my wife is
>> with me and has the same, that puts it over $4 so I have to pay the
>> provincial and the federal and it is almost $1 extra in tax.
>
> Separate checks, please.

Yep. That is what we do.

"graham" > wrote in message
news
> On 2017-03-28 12:13 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So.... this week here, 3lbs ground beef and 10lbs chicken quarters
>>>>> all for only $10 plus tax.
>>>>
>>>> Tax on food????
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pretty sleazy to tax it IMO, but some do.
>>>
>>> States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
>>> (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
>>> (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
>>> Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11,
>>> 2008
>>
>>
>> They tried a "snack tax" here in CA, but it didn't last long. Big
>> surprise that the lawmakers could never decide what was a snack food and
>> what wasn't so they did away with it. It was stupid in the first place.
>>
>> Cheri
> Snacks are taxed here. I bought one chocolate scone the other day and paid
> sales tax. Had I bought several, tax would not have been added.



They could not decide on what was snack food and what wasn't. For instance,
was popcorn a snack food? Jerky? Were tangerines actually a snack food?
Jell-O? and so on. I was glad they did away with it.

Cheri

On 3/28/2017 11:09 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:09:43 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2017 8:30 PM, wrote:
>>> Tax on food????
>>
>> Yep. Some states tax food. Tennessee did when I lived there, at a
>> whopping 9.25%. I believe they've lowered it for food since, but not
>> eliminated it.
>>
>> My mother, being a military wife and lifetime military dependent,
>> shopped at the commissary. No sales tax. When I got here she stopped
>> shopping but I couldn't go to the commissary. I had to shop at the
>> local supermarkets. She said "They'll charge tax!" Even she didn't
>> realize, and it took me a long time to also realize, there is no sales
>> tax on food in SC.
>>
>> But yes, there are some states that do charge sales tax on food. Here's
>> a link to 2017 info:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/l3cl56b
>>
>> Jill
>
> A bill to repeal our state grocery tax heads to the governor.
> Democrats are for repealing it and Republicans are for keeping it. Our
> tea party governor will ax the bill.
> We also have a lovely gasoline tax here. The tax money helps our
> government sue the federal government for anything regarded as
> impingement of state's rights. The lawsuit bill runs pretty darn high
> and always the suits come to naught.
> Did I mention that I live in the reddist of red states?
> Janet US
>
Red, blue... no clue. All I know is it's nice to not be taxed for
food. There is still definitely a gasoline tax here. All sorts of
other local taxes, too. It's the cost of living.

Jill

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:33:42 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2017-03-28 2:11 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:38:02 +1100, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I read somewhere that Chicago has an entertainment tax. So if you buy
> >> a concert ticket or a ticket for a sports event, you pay a bit extra
> >> because that's entertainment. Or that's how I understood it.
> >
> > Cities get you one way or another. San Francisco wallops tourists
> > with a huge hotel tax.
> >
> >
> You should check out the scam in Niagara Falls. They have some sort of
> tourist destination surcharge that varies from from one place to another
> and is semi voluntary. Most places will cancel it if you ask, and the
> money does not even go to the government.

We were there not too many years ago, less than 5 and were not shocked
by any prices. Of course, we got our VAT back as soon at the boarder.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 03:19:31 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 2:09:42 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:26:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> > > States that tax groceries (rate if not fully taxed): Alabama, Arkansas
> > > (3%), Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois (1%), Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri
> > > (1.225%), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee (5.5%), Utah (1.75%),
> > > Virginia (1.5% + 1% local option tax), and West Virginia (5%).Jan 11, 2008
> >
> > Michigan gave up on taxing food? That's good. It was wonderful
> > moving to California, having more variety, better quality and no tax
> > on food.
>
> I think you'd find that we have quite a good variety and excellent
> quality nowadays, at least in urban meccas like Ann Arbor. Not so
> much in places where nobody wants to live anyway.
>

That wasn't "nowadays" and I lived in the middle of nowhere - at least
60 miles from anywhere. *I* didn't want to live there. Very happy to
be where I am now and never pine for the Good Old Days.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 11:09:33 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-03-28 10:55 AM, wrote:
>
>> In NY markets candy is taxed, but a chocolate cake from a bakery is
>> not taxed, nor is ice cream, even those loaded with confections.
>
>In Ontario I have to pay sales tax in a donut or a muffin, but if I buy
>a half dozen or more there is no tax. There is no provincial tax on a
>restaurant meal under $4 but there is a federal tax. If I go to the
>corner bakery and get a coffee and a muffin there is a 5% federal tax
>(GST) but no provincial tax and the total will be $3.80. If my wife is
>with me and has the same, that puts it over $4 so I have to pay the
>provincial and the federal and it is almost $1 extra in tax.

That's idiotic but there's a simple work around, you are two different
people, each of you order seperately.