http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dominos-...nd-the-scenes/

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 6:54:15 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dominos-...nd-the-scenes/

It was startling to hear in a commercial a company admitting that their product wasn't so great. Being able to order a pizza on an app is pretty cool but my guess is that it's success is due to the younger generation wanting to stay at home and play games or watch Netflix. I think there's also some kind of social component when everybody eats the same food.

The kids would order a bunch of pizza. I'd go into the kitchen and it would be stacked on the stove. I have vivid images of my towering son coming to visit carrying boxes of pizza. Not just any box of pizza - Domino's pizza with their very distinctive boxes with the folded corners.

There's always a Domino's delivery guy bouncing all over this condo. Come to think of it, we all should have bought Domino's a few years ago. OTOH, I'm not wild about the product.

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I'm not wild about the product.
>
>
Me neither although it's been a good while since I've had
their pizza. The tomato sauce was far too sweet for my
liking. I have no idea if they've cut the sugar or not.

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:17:19 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I'm not wild about the product.
>>
>>
>Me neither although it's been a good while since I've had
>their pizza. The tomato sauce was far too sweet for my
>liking. I have no idea if they've cut the sugar or not.

I order it now every once in a while. Usually a Sunday night and I
don't want to cook or go out. There pizza has changed. I'm sure not
to appeal to a gourmet but the online convenience is a boon to me.
They've got an online 'work' progress bar for you that tells you where
your pizza is in production, when it leaves the store so you know when
it will get to you.
We don't get big city pizza around here anyway. If I'm out and about
I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
Janet US

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > I'm not wild about the product.
> >
> >
> Me neither although it's been a good while since I've had
> their pizza. The tomato sauce was far too sweet for my
> liking. I have no idea if they've cut the sugar or not.

I'll check on the sweetness the next time I get Domino's. If I make a pizza, I'll use tomato paste from the can and then sprinkle it with salt/pepper/spaghetti sauce mix - no sugar though.

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> If I'm out and about
> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
> Janet US
>
>
Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> If I'm out and about
>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
>> Janet US
>>
>>
>Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
>is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
>supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.

no, I haven't. I will look for it.
Janet US

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm not wild about the product.
>> >
>> >
>> Me neither although it's been a good while since I've had
>> their pizza. The tomato sauce was far too sweet for my
>> liking. I have no idea if they've cut the sugar or not.
>
>I'll check on the sweetness the next time I get Domino's. If I make a pizza, I'll use tomato paste from the can and then sprinkle it with salt/pepper/spaghetti sauce mix - no sugar though.

When I make my own, I use tomato sauce and sprinkle it with Italian
seasoning. I haven't done tomato paste since childhood when Chef
Boyardee came out. Doesn't the tomato paste make it dry.
Janet US

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 5:28:42 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>
> >> If I'm out and about
> >> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
> >> Janet US
> >>
> >>
> >Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
> >is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
> >supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
>
> no, I haven't. I will look for it.
> Janet US
>
>
I couldn't tell you who makes the best, A-number 1,
most fabulous marinara sauce in the world but I'll
make a pitch for Newman's Own again.

About two weeks ago I bought a bag of frozen meatballs
and cooked a batch in the toaster oven per directions.
When done I dropped them into a bowl of Newman's Own
marinara sauce and heated all in the microwave on low
power for about 3 minutes. Larruping good!

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:51:19 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 5:28:42 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If I'm out and about
>> >> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
>> >> Janet US
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
>> >is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
>> >supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
>>
>> no, I haven't. I will look for it.
>> Janet US
>>
>>
>I couldn't tell you who makes the best, A-number 1,
>most fabulous marinara sauce in the world but I'll
>make a pitch for Newman's Own again.
>
>About two weeks ago I bought a bag of frozen meatballs
>and cooked a batch in the toaster oven per directions.
>When done I dropped them into a bowl of Newman's Own
>marinara sauce and heated all in the microwave on low
>power for about 3 minutes. Larruping good!
>
>
Laruping ? Eh? That says it all. I must try some

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 7:04:21 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:51:19 -0700 (PDT), "
>
> Larruping good!
> >
> >
> Laruping ? Eh? That says it all. I must try some
>
>
Yep! I don't think you'll be disappointed.

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'm not wild about the product.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Me neither although it's been a good while since I've had
> >> their pizza. The tomato sauce was far too sweet for my
> >> liking. I have no idea if they've cut the sugar or not.
> >
> >I'll check on the sweetness the next time I get Domino's. If I make a pizza, I'll use tomato paste from the can and then sprinkle it with salt/pepper/spaghetti sauce mix - no sugar though.
>
> When I make my own, I use tomato sauce and sprinkle it with Italian
> seasoning. I haven't done tomato paste since childhood when Chef
> Boyardee came out. Doesn't the tomato paste make it dry.
> Janet US

It's a great solution for people that don't care for a saucy, leaky, pizza. Using a paste or something thick like a pesto makes for a more intense taste. Sometimes I don't even use any sauce - just olive oil. I used to make a sauce for pizza but I now prefer this faster less drippy way.

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 02:40:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not wild about the product.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Me neither although it's been a good while since I've had
>> >> their pizza. The tomato sauce was far too sweet for my
>> >> liking. I have no idea if they've cut the sugar or not.
>> >
>> >I'll check on the sweetness the next time I get Domino's. If I make a pizza, I'll use tomato paste from the can and then sprinkle it with salt/pepper/spaghetti sauce mix - no sugar though.
>>
>> When I make my own, I use tomato sauce and sprinkle it with Italian
>> seasoning. I haven't done tomato paste since childhood when Chef
>> Boyardee came out. Doesn't the tomato paste make it dry.
>> Janet US
>
>It's a great solution for people that don't care for a saucy, leaky, pizza. Using a paste or something thick like a pesto makes for a more intense taste. Sometimes I don't even use any sauce - just olive oil. I used to make a sauce for pizza but I now prefer this faster less drippy way.

I can understand your point. In this case I wasn't making tomato
sauce, I was using the stuff in a can
Janet US

On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 12:48:38 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 02:40:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm not wild about the product.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> Me neither although it's been a good while since I've had
> >> >> their pizza. The tomato sauce was far too sweet for my
> >> >> liking. I have no idea if they've cut the sugar or not.
> >> >
> >> >I'll check on the sweetness the next time I get Domino's. If I make a pizza, I'll use tomato paste from the can and then sprinkle it with salt/pepper/spaghetti sauce mix - no sugar though.
> >>
> >> When I make my own, I use tomato sauce and sprinkle it with Italian
> >> seasoning. I haven't done tomato paste since childhood when Chef
> >> Boyardee came out. Doesn't the tomato paste make it dry.
> >> Janet US
> >
> >It's a great solution for people that don't care for a saucy, leaky, pizza. Using a paste or something thick like a pesto makes for a more intense taste. Sometimes I don't even use any sauce - just olive oil. I used to make a sauce for pizza but I now prefer this faster less drippy way.
>
> I can understand your point. In this case I wasn't making tomato
> sauce, I was using the stuff in a can
> Janet US

When my daughter was about 4 years old, she was eating some pizza. I told her to be careful since it was a little hot. She bit the tip and when she pulled away the entire cheese topping slid off the sauce and attached itself to her chin like a napalm octopus. Hoo boy, that was pretty terrifying. It's a lesson in pizza eating that she'll always remember.

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 04:03:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 12:48:38 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 02:40:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> >> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'm not wild about the product.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> Me neither although it's been a good while since I've had
>> >> >> their pizza. The tomato sauce was far too sweet for my
>> >> >> liking. I have no idea if they've cut the sugar or not.
>> >> >
>> >> >I'll check on the sweetness the next time I get Domino's. If I make a pizza, I'll use tomato paste from the can and then sprinkle it with salt/pepper/spaghetti sauce mix - no sugar though.
>> >>
>> >> When I make my own, I use tomato sauce and sprinkle it with Italian
>> >> seasoning. I haven't done tomato paste since childhood when Chef
>> >> Boyardee came out. Doesn't the tomato paste make it dry.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >It's a great solution for people that don't care for a saucy, leaky, pizza. Using a paste or something thick like a pesto makes for a more intense taste. Sometimes I don't even use any sauce - just olive oil. I used to make a sauce for pizza but I now prefer this faster less drippy way.
>>
>> I can understand your point. In this case I wasn't making tomato
>> sauce, I was using the stuff in a can
>> Janet US
>
>When my daughter was about 4 years old, she was eating some pizza. I told her to be careful since it was a little hot. She bit the tip and when she pulled away the entire cheese topping slid off the sauce and attached itself to her chin like a napalm octopus. Hoo boy, that was pretty terrifying. It's a lesson in pizza eating that she'll always remember.

no kidding. She didn't actually get a burn, did she? Hope not.
When I was little, my mother's coffee tipped over and poured onto my
arm over my sweater. When we pulled the sweater off, skin came with
it.. The dinner table can be a dangerous place.
Janet US

On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 1:16:20 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 04:03:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 12:48:38 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 02:40:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:21:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I'm not wild about the product.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Me neither although it's been a good while since I've had
> >> >> >> their pizza. The tomato sauce was far too sweet for my
> >> >> >> liking. I have no idea if they've cut the sugar or not.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I'll check on the sweetness the next time I get Domino's. If I make a pizza, I'll use tomato paste from the can and then sprinkle it with salt/pepper/spaghetti sauce mix - no sugar though.
> >> >>
> >> >> When I make my own, I use tomato sauce and sprinkle it with Italian
> >> >> seasoning. I haven't done tomato paste since childhood when Chef
> >> >> Boyardee came out. Doesn't the tomato paste make it dry.
> >> >> Janet US
> >> >
> >> >It's a great solution for people that don't care for a saucy, leaky, pizza. Using a paste or something thick like a pesto makes for a more intense taste. Sometimes I don't even use any sauce - just olive oil. I used to make a sauce for pizza but I now prefer this faster less drippy way.
> >>
> >> I can understand your point. In this case I wasn't making tomato
> >> sauce, I was using the stuff in a can
> >> Janet US
> >
> >When my daughter was about 4 years old, she was eating some pizza. I told her to be careful since it was a little hot. She bit the tip and when she pulled away the entire cheese topping slid off the sauce and attached itself to her chin like a napalm octopus. Hoo boy, that was pretty terrifying. It's a lesson in pizza eating that she'll always remember.
>
> no kidding. She didn't actually get a burn, did she? Hope not.
> When I was little, my mother's coffee tipped over and poured onto my
> arm over my sweater. When we pulled the sweater off, skin came with
> it.. The dinner table can be a dangerous place.
> Janet US

Oddly enough, she did not. She probably has hot cheese PTSD though. The memories of injuries we had as a kid certainly does stay with you, don't it? I have a few of those.

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> If I'm out and about
>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
>> Janet US
>>
> Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
> is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
> supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.

Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:

"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".

Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
marketing for gullible people.

-sw

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT),
>wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> If I'm out and about
>>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
>> is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
>> supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
>
>Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:
>
>"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
>
>Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
>nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
>marketing for gullible people.

My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
true?"

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 9:14:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
> >
> >"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
> >
> >Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
> >nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
> >marketing for gullible people.
>
> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
> true?"
>
>
Well, I just pulled a package of Applegate naturals out of the
refrigerator. It's labeled uncured pepperoni and I quote directly
from the package: "No nitrites or nitrates added except for those
naturally occurring in sea salt and celery powder." No antibiotics
used, humanely raised and gluten & casein free.

Don't believe everything the Squirt spouts out to be false. P.s.
The stuff makes a great addition to grilled cheese sandwiches.

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 9:02:32 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
> nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
> marketing for gullible people.
>
> -sw
>
>
Don't be ridiculous. Just because you haven't eaten anything
nitrate free doesn't mean it does not exist.

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:14:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT),
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If I'm out and about
> >>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
> >>> Janet US
> >>>
> >> Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
> >> is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
> >> supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
> >
> >Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:
> >
> >"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
> >
> >Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
> >nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
> >marketing for gullible people.
>
> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
> true?"

They add celery powder (which is naturally high in nitrates) rather
than pure sodium nitrate. They get to say they have no nitrates,
with the additional bonus that the nitrate content might actually
be higher than in traditionally cured meat.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:07:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 9:14:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
>> >
>> >Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
>> >nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
>> >marketing for gullible people.
>>
>> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
>> true?"
>>
>>
>Well, I just pulled a package of Applegate naturals out of the
>refrigerator. It's labeled uncured pepperoni and I quote directly
>from the package: "No nitrites or nitrates added except for those
>naturally occurring in sea salt and celery powder." No antibiotics
>used, humanely raised and gluten & casein free.
>
>Don't believe everything the Squirt spouts out to be false. P.s.
>The stuff makes a great addition to grilled cheese sandwiches.

Maybe the difference is that yours isn't cured.

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:19:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:14:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT),
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If I'm out and about
>> >>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
>> >>> Janet US
>> >>>
>> >> Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
>> >> is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
>> >> supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
>> >
>> >Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:
>> >
>> >"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
>> >
>> >Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
>> >nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
>> >marketing for gullible people.
>>
>> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
>> true?"
>
>They add celery powder (which is naturally high in nitrates) rather
>than pure sodium nitrate. They get to say they have no nitrates,
>with the additional bonus that the nitrate content might actually
>be higher than in traditionally cured meat.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a system that checks whether a claim like
"no nitrites/nitrates" is true? Or maybe that system already exists
and the claim is true.

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 6:40:27 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:19:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:14:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT),
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If I'm out and about
> >> >>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
> >> >>> Janet US
> >> >>>
> >> >> Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
> >> >> is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
> >> >> supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
> >> >
> >> >Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:
> >> >
> >> >"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
> >> >
> >> >Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
> >> >nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
> >> >marketing for gullible people.
> >>
> >> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
> >> true?"
> >
> >They add celery powder (which is naturally high in nitrates) rather
> >than pure sodium nitrate. They get to say they have no nitrates,
> >with the additional bonus that the nitrate content might actually
> >be higher than in traditionally cured meat.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice to have a system that checks whether a claim like
> "no nitrites/nitrates" is true? Or maybe that system already exists
> and the claim is true.

Oh, heavens! That would be unwarranted interference by the government
in ...

I couldn't even finish typing the sentence I was laughing so hard.

The "natural" food market in the U.S. is extremely poorly regulated.
OTOH, the "standard" market isn't well regulated, either.

Apparently, the plutocracy would prefer that we eat crap and expand their wallets.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 4:28:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 6:40:27 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:19:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:14:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT),
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> If I'm out and about
> > >> >>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
> > >> >>> Janet US
> > >> >>>
> > >> >> Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
> > >> >> is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
> > >> >> supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
> > >> >
> > >> >Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:
> > >> >
> > >> >"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
> > >> >
> > >> >Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
> > >> >nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
> > >> >marketing for gullible people.
> > >>
> > >> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
> > >> true?"
> > >
> > >They add celery powder (which is naturally high in nitrates) rather
> > >than pure sodium nitrate. They get to say they have no nitrates,
> > >with the additional bonus that the nitrate content might actually
> > >be higher than in traditionally cured meat.
> >
> > Wouldn't it be nice to have a system that checks whether a claim like
> > "no nitrites/nitrates" is true? Or maybe that system already exists
> > and the claim is true.
>
> Oh, heavens! That would be unwarranted interference by the government
> in ...
>
> I couldn't even finish typing the sentence I was laughing so hard.
>
> The "natural" food market in the U.S. is extremely poorly regulated.
> OTOH, the "standard" market isn't well regulated, either.
>
> Apparently, the plutocracy would prefer that we eat crap and expand their wallets.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

The natural food market should be totally unregulated and all those buzzwords and catchphrases should be allowed to roam about like those free-range chickens. Well heck, consumers are living in a fantasy world anyway. What's the harm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUtnas5ScSE

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 6:40:27 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:19:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:14:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:
>> >> >
>> >> >"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
>> >> >
>> >> >Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
>> >> >nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
>> >> >marketing for gullible people.
>> >>
>> >> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
>> >> true?"
>> >
>> >They add celery powder (which is naturally high in nitrates) rather
>> >than pure sodium nitrate. They get to say they have no nitrates,
>> >with the additional bonus that the nitrate content might actually
>> >be higher than in traditionally cured meat.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be nice to have a system that checks whether a claim like
>> "no nitrites/nitrates" is true? Or maybe that system already exists
>> and the claim is true.
>
>Oh, heavens! That would be unwarranted interference by the government
>in ...
>
>I couldn't even finish typing the sentence I was laughing so hard.
>
>The "natural" food market in the U.S. is extremely poorly regulated.
>OTOH, the "standard" market isn't well regulated, either.
>
>Apparently, the plutocracy would prefer that we eat crap and expand their wallets.

I know that's how it is, especially in the US. That's why I said
"wouldn't it..."

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:30:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 4:28:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 6:40:27 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:19:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:14:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> > >> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT),
>> > >> >wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> If I'm out and about
>> > >> >>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
>> > >> >>> Janet US
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >> Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
>> > >> >> is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
>> > >> >> supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
>> > >> >nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
>> > >> >marketing for gullible people.
>> > >>
>> > >> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
>> > >> true?"
>> > >
>> > >They add celery powder (which is naturally high in nitrates) rather
>> > >than pure sodium nitrate. They get to say they have no nitrates,
>> > >with the additional bonus that the nitrate content might actually
>> > >be higher than in traditionally cured meat.
>> >
>> > Wouldn't it be nice to have a system that checks whether a claim like
>> > "no nitrites/nitrates" is true? Or maybe that system already exists
>> > and the claim is true.
>>
>> Oh, heavens! That would be unwarranted interference by the government
>> in ...
>>
>> I couldn't even finish typing the sentence I was laughing so hard.
>>
>> The "natural" food market in the U.S. is extremely poorly regulated.
>> OTOH, the "standard" market isn't well regulated, either.
>>
>> Apparently, the plutocracy would prefer that we eat crap and expand their wallets.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>The natural food market should be totally unregulated and all those buzzwords and catchphrases should be allowed to roam about like those free-range chickens. Well heck, consumers are living in a fantasy world anyway. What's the harm?

"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free" isn't a vague buzzword or a new age
catchphrase. If it's not true, it's a simple lie. Marketing is one
thing, lying another.

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 5:37:21 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:07:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >Well, I just pulled a package of Applegate naturals out of the
> >refrigerator. It's labeled uncured pepperoni and I quote directly
> >from the package: "No nitrites or nitrates added except for those
> >naturally occurring in sea salt and celery powder." No antibiotics
> >used, humanely raised and gluten & casein free.
> >
> >Don't believe everything the Squirt spouts out to be false. P.s.
> >The stuff makes a great addition to grilled cheese sandwiches.
>
> Maybe the difference is that yours isn't cured.
>
>
Exactly.

Bruce > wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:30:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 4:28:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 6:40:27 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:19:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:14:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT),
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I'm out and about
>>>>>>>>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
>>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
>>>>>>>> is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
>>>>>>>> supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
>>>>>>> nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
>>>>>>> marketing for gullible people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
>>>>>> true?"
>>>>>
>>>>> They add celery powder (which is naturally high in nitrates) rather
>>>>> than pure sodium nitrate. They get to say they have no nitrates,
>>>>> with the additional bonus that the nitrate content might actually
>>>>> be higher than in traditionally cured meat.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't it be nice to have a system that checks whether a claim like
>>>> "no nitrites/nitrates" is true? Or maybe that system already exists
>>>> and the claim is true.
>>>
>>> Oh, heavens! That would be unwarranted interference by the government
>>> in ...
>>>
>>> I couldn't even finish typing the sentence I was laughing so hard.
>>>
>>> The "natural" food market in the U.S. is extremely poorly regulated.
>>> OTOH, the "standard" market isn't well regulated, either.
>>>
>>> Apparently, the plutocracy would prefer that we eat crap and expand their wallets.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> The natural food market should be totally unregulated and all those
>> buzzwords and catchphrases should be allowed to roam about like those
>> free-range chickens. Well heck, consumers are living in a fantasy world
>> anyway. What's the harm?
>
> "Nitrite/Nitrate-Free" isn't a vague buzzword or a new age
> catchphrase. If it's not true, it's a simple lie. Marketing is one
> thing, lying another.
>

I'm not sure I've ever seen foods labeled as "nitrate free". I think it's
more a case of the consumer reading "no added nitrates other than those
occurring in celery juice" or "nitrate free except for ...." and concluding
themselves that what they're eating is somehow nitrate free when the
reality is that it isn't. It's only that the nitrates added are naturally
occurring in those added food substances (celery juice/salt, etc.) and not
artificially generated. Sometimes that "naturally occurring" nitrate load
in uncured meats is higher than it would be in the cured version. People
believe what they want to believe.

--
jinx the minx

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 3:30:48 PM UTC-5, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I've ever seen foods labeled as "nitrate free". I think it's
> more a case of the consumer reading "no added nitrates other than those
> occurring in celery juice" or "nitrate free except for ...." and concluding
> themselves that what they're eating is somehow nitrate free when the
> reality is that it isn't. It's only that the nitrates added are naturally
> occurring in those added food substances (celery juice/salt, etc.) and not
> artificially generated. Sometimes that "naturally occurring" nitrate load
> in uncured meats is higher than it would be in the cured version. People
> believe what they want to believe.
>
> --
> jinx the minx
>
>
I could be entirely wrong but I don't think 'naturally occurring'
nitrites or nitrates are higher or as high in levels than meats
preserved WITH nitrites or nitrates. With no added nitrites or
nitrates I suppose that's the reason the Applegate pepperoni is
only available in the refrigerated case and has to be kept
refrigerated vs. Hormel shelf stable pepperonis.

On 3/30/2017 12:54 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dominos-...nd-the-scenes/
>
I *do* believe you were referring to buying the stock, not the pizza.

Jill

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 6:04:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>

Applegate naturals Product Information

Ingredients:

Pork, Sea Salt. Contains Less Than 2% Of The Following: Dextrose, Celery Powder, Spices, Paprika, Paprika Extract, Garlic, Lactic Acid Starter Culture (Not From Milk),

Spices

Red Pepper, Fennel Seed, Black Pepper



Nutritional Facts:

Serving Size 1 oz. (28g)

Servings Per Container 5


Amount Per Serving


Calories 80

From Fat 60


Total Fat 7g

%Daily Value 11%


Saturated Fat 2.5g

%Daily Value 13%


Trans Fat 0g

%Daily Value --


Cholesterol 20mg

%Daily Value --


Sodium 260mg

%Daily Value 11%


Total Carbs 1g

%Daily Value 0%


Dietary Fiber 0g

%Daily Value 0%


Sugars 1g

%Daily Value --


Protein 4g

%Daily Value --


Vitamin A

%Daily Value 2%


Vitamin C

%Daily Value 0%


Calcium

%Daily Value 0%


Iron

%Daily Value 2%

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 19:26:57 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/30/2017 12:54 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dominos-...nd-the-scenes/
>>
>I *do* believe you were referring to buying the stock, not the pizza.
>
>Jill

applause !
Janet US

On 4/3/2017 8:08 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 19:26:57 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/30/2017 12:54 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dominos-...nd-the-scenes/
>>>
>> I *do* believe you were referring to buying the stock, not the pizza.
>>
>> Jill
>
> applause !
> Janet US
>
Better late than never.

Jill

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:07:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 9:14:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
>>>
>>>Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
>>>nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
>>>marketing for gullible people.
>>
>> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
>> true?"
>>
>>
> Well, I just pulled a package of Applegate naturals out of the
> refrigerator. It's labeled uncured pepperoni and I quote directly
> from the package: "No nitrites or nitrates added except for those
> naturally occurring in sea salt and celery powder." No antibiotics
> used, humanely raised and gluten & casein free.
>
> Don't believe everything the Squirt spouts out to be false. P.s.
> The stuff makes a great addition to grilled cheese sandwiches.

And celery powder is a huge source of nitrites. It's specifically
refined just for it's nitrite content for addition to these
'nitrite-free' meats. There are plenty of articles on this
well-documented scam, including:

http://blog.ruhlman.com/2011/05/the-...es-added-hoax/

Squirt that!

-sw

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:17:02 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 5:37:21 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:07:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I just pulled a package of Applegate naturals out of the
>>>refrigerator. It's labeled uncured pepperoni and I quote directly
>>>from the package: "No nitrites or nitrates added except for those
>>>naturally occurring in sea salt and celery powder." No antibiotics
>>>used, humanely raised and gluten & casein free.
>>>
>>>Don't believe everything the Squirt spouts out to be false. P.s.
>>>The stuff makes a great addition to grilled cheese sandwiches.
>>
>> Maybe the difference is that yours isn't cured.
>>
>>
> Exactly.

Say what? That makes no sense. You don't even know what 'cured'
means.

-sw

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:08:52 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 9:02:32 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
>> nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
>> marketing for gullible people.
>>
> Don't be ridiculous. Just because you haven't eaten anything
> nitrate free doesn't mean it does not exist.

Those products ARE NOT nitrte-free (or nitrate-free). You're even
more gullible than I thought.

http://blog.ruhlman.com/2011/05/the-...es-added-hoax/

-sw

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:19:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:14:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:02:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT),
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:13:06 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If I'm out and about
>>>>> I get a Papa Murphy's to take and bake.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> Have you tried a Newman's Own frozen pizza? The pepperoni
>>>> is VERY good and it's nitrate-free pepperoni. They also offer a
>>>> supreme Margherita as well as plain cheese.
>>>
>>>Biggest hoax in the natural/health foods department:
>>>
>>>"Nitrite/Nitrate-Free".
>>>
>>>Those supposedly nitrate-free meats have as much - often MORE -
>>>nitrite/nitrate than the traditionally cured products. It's just
>>>marketing for gullible people.
>>
>> My question is "Why are they allowed to make that claim when it's not
>> true?"
>
> They add celery powder (which is naturally high in nitrates) rather
> than pure sodium nitrate. They get to say they have no nitrates,
> with the additional bonus that the nitrate content might actually
> be higher than in traditionally cured meat.

Thank you. I think most people here who have actually looked into the
subject know the truth.

-sw

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 11:02:46 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> I think most people here who have actually looked into the
> subject know the truth.
>
> -sw
>
>
Which leaves you out. I posted the ingredients which of course
you didn't bother to read.

I'm done with you and your silliness. Nobody is stuffing
pepperoni down your pie hole.

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 21:15:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 11:02:46 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> I think most people here who have actually looked into the
>> subject know the truth.
>>
> Which leaves you out. I posted the ingredients which of course
> you didn't bother to read.

I read it. And as several of us have pointed out, that celery powder
is the source of the nitrates. You're the one who insists on being
ignorant here. Here's another article (one of hundreds on the subject
of this hoax) from an even more reputable source.

http://time.com/4092912/nitrate-nitr...n-cancer-meat/

Sorry to burst your gullible bubble. If you want to believe this
"nitrate-free" bullshit, then by all means knock yourself out. But
don't be getting all indignant with people who know the truth about
these products.

-sw