On 4/2/2017 2:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> People of the opposite sex can be "just friends." Does that happen
> very often? I have my doubts. It also makes me uncomfortable to be
> seen with attractive, well-dressed, people which is likely to happen
> when sales reps offer to take you out to lunch. I do like the free
> food though.
>

I see no reason the cannot be if you are emotionally mature and secure.
Helps if your spouse is too. The few women I'm friends with I've known
for 25 years, 35 years, 45 years. There have been situations where we
were very much alone too. All you have to do is be respectful and keep
your hands to yourself.

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 08:53:07 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 10:14:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> >On 4/2/2017 5:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
>> >>> than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
>> >>
>> >> Trump will never grab a pussy - at least not on my watch. I don't want to be dining alone with a women either. That's the devil's work! It makes me nervous being seen like that.
>> >>
>> >
>> >I can see where a woman can make accusations but I'd think in public
>> >would be safer than in private if that is your concern.
>> >
>> >People get silly over a married person being seen with a person of the
>> >opposite sex that is not their spouse or SO. For years I've had many
>> >female friends and often did things with them and never thought anything
>> >about it. Just friends enjoying a concert, show, meal, trip to the
>> >store, whatever.
>> >
>> >A couple of times I wanted to visit a particular place and my wife was
>> >not interested. She even suggested I take Betty or Joan as they would
>> >probably enjoy it.
>> >
>> Ditto, that was how we worked too. I figure if Pence sincerely feels
>> that way his wife is likely a jealous type. Or he doesn't trust
>> himself.
>
>Perhaps you and Bruce should investigate why he's that way:
>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule>
>
>Given the risks of public life, I'm starting to think it's a sensible
>practice for him.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I think the system of trusting ones spouse is more honourable. I knew
I could trust David and he I, far better system. Then again, both of
us were/are atheists so wouldn't want to follow BG

On 2017-04-02 1:28 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 08:53:07 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 10:14:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/2/2017 5:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
>>>>>> than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump will never grab a pussy - at least not on my watch. I don't want to be dining alone with a women either. That's the devil's work! It makes me nervous being seen like that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can see where a woman can make accusations but I'd think in public
>>>> would be safer than in private if that is your concern.
>>>>
>>>> People get silly over a married person being seen with a person of the
>>>> opposite sex that is not their spouse or SO. For years I've had many
>>>> female friends and often did things with them and never thought anything
>>>> about it. Just friends enjoying a concert, show, meal, trip to the
>>>> store, whatever.
>>>>
>>>> A couple of times I wanted to visit a particular place and my wife was
>>>> not interested. She even suggested I take Betty or Joan as they would
>>>> probably enjoy it.
>>>>
>>> Ditto, that was how we worked too. I figure if Pence sincerely feels
>>> that way his wife is likely a jealous type. Or he doesn't trust
>>> himself.
>>
>> Perhaps you and Bruce should investigate why he's that way:
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule>
>>
>> Given the risks of public life, I'm starting to think it's a sensible
>> practice for him.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I think the system of trusting ones spouse is more honourable. I knew
> I could trust David and he I, far better system. Then again, both of
> us were/are atheists so wouldn't want to follow BG
>
By-election here tomorrow - Harper's old riding. The leaflet from the
Christian Heritage Party should be re-labelled Christian Bigotry Party.
One has to be *very* careful in dealings with devout evangelical xtians.
As a general rule, they can't be trusted.
Graham (atheist since 14)

On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 16:28:27 -0300, wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 08:53:07 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 10:14:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 4/2/2017 5:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
>>> >>> than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
>>> >>
>>> >> Trump will never grab a pussy - at least not on my watch. I don't want to be dining alone with a women either. That's the devil's work! It makes me nervous being seen like that.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >I can see where a woman can make accusations but I'd think in public
>>> >would be safer than in private if that is your concern.
>>> >
>>> >People get silly over a married person being seen with a person of the
>>> >opposite sex that is not their spouse or SO. For years I've had many
>>> >female friends and often did things with them and never thought anything
>>> >about it. Just friends enjoying a concert, show, meal, trip to the
>>> >store, whatever.
>>> >
>>> >A couple of times I wanted to visit a particular place and my wife was
>>> >not interested. She even suggested I take Betty or Joan as they would
>>> >probably enjoy it.
>>> >
>>> Ditto, that was how we worked too. I figure if Pence sincerely feels
>>> that way his wife is likely a jealous type. Or he doesn't trust
>>> himself.
>>
>>Perhaps you and Bruce should investigate why he's that way:
>>
>><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule>
>>
>>Given the risks of public life, I'm starting to think it's a sensible
>>practice for him.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>I think the system of trusting ones spouse is more honourable. I knew
>I could trust David and he I, far better system. Then again, both of
>us were/are atheists so wouldn't want to follow BG

He is a Fundamentalist.
Janet US

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/2/2017 2:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
> > People of the opposite sex can be "just friends." Does that happen
> > very often? I have my doubts. It also makes me uncomfortable to be
> > seen with attractive, well-dressed, people which is likely to happen
> > when sales reps offer to take you out to lunch. I do like the free
> > food though.
> >
>
> I see no reason the cannot be if you are emotionally mature and secure.
> Helps if your spouse is too. The few women I'm friends with I've known
> for 25 years, 35 years, 45 years. There have been situations where we
> were very much alone too. All you have to do is be respectful and keep
> your hands to yourself.

It certainly is possible. Anything is possible. My guess is that it hurts marriages more than it helps.

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 14:58:11 -0600, graham > wrote:


>>
>> I think the system of trusting ones spouse is more honourable. I knew
>> I could trust David and he I, far better system. Then again, both of
>> us were/are atheists so wouldn't want to follow BG
>>
>By-election here tomorrow - Harper's old riding. The leaflet from the
>Christian Heritage Party should be re-labelled Christian Bigotry Party.
>One has to be *very* careful in dealings with devout evangelical xtians.
>As a general rule, they can't be trusted.
>Graham (atheist since 14)

Wow, just so long as you don't re-elect Harper You are correct I
remember being disgusted with the preaching behaviour of the 7th Day
in Tokyo after the war ended. Later on there were nuns who lived
near us, I think I disliked them even more. These sects seem to feel
so long as they can somehow justify anything that is in their minds
written in the bible, it's okay even good.

I didn't realise I was an atheist at age 8 but I was. My mother
decided to send me to the Sunday School at the cathedral in Hong Kong.
One Sunday walking up I gave my collection money to a beggar on the
street. I was soundly smacked by the teacher when I said what I had
done with it. I didn't exactly understand but had enough gumption to
realise something was a bit wrong with the picture!

On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 15:08:43 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 16:28:27 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 08:53:07 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 10:14:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On 4/2/2017 5:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
>>>> >>> than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Trump will never grab a pussy - at least not on my watch. I don't want to be dining alone with a women either. That's the devil's work! It makes me nervous being seen like that.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >I can see where a woman can make accusations but I'd think in public
>>>> >would be safer than in private if that is your concern.
>>>> >
>>>> >People get silly over a married person being seen with a person of the
>>>> >opposite sex that is not their spouse or SO. For years I've had many
>>>> >female friends and often did things with them and never thought anything
>>>> >about it. Just friends enjoying a concert, show, meal, trip to the
>>>> >store, whatever.
>>>> >
>>>> >A couple of times I wanted to visit a particular place and my wife was
>>>> >not interested. She even suggested I take Betty or Joan as they would
>>>> >probably enjoy it.
>>>> >
>>>> Ditto, that was how we worked too. I figure if Pence sincerely feels
>>>> that way his wife is likely a jealous type. Or he doesn't trust
>>>> himself.
>>>
>>>Perhaps you and Bruce should investigate why he's that way:
>>>
>>><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule>
>>>
>>>Given the risks of public life, I'm starting to think it's a sensible
>>>practice for him.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>I think the system of trusting ones spouse is more honourable. I knew
>>I could trust David and he I, far better system. Then again, both of
>>us were/are atheists so wouldn't want to follow BG
>
>He is a Fundamentalist.
>Janet US

That which is called a fish, by any other name was stink as bad after
7 days

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 1:53:30 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-04-02 12:16 AM, wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 5:06:31 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 18:21:51 -0300, wrote:
> >>
> >>> Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
> >>> than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
> >>
> >> Maybe he thinks he's so attractive to women that they can't control
> >> themselves?
> >>
> >>
> > Or he's protecting himself from any type of accusation, no matter
> > how trivial, by some silly woman wanting to make a name for her-
> > self or seeking money. Ever think of that?
>
>
> Just look back at the Clinton era and the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Loose
> lips sink ships. She blabbed to a co-worker and then saved the semen
> stained dress, even giving it to her mother for safe keeping.

The great thing about Trump is that he makes me realize that GW Bush wasn't all that bad of a president. That's awesome!

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:53:10 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule>
>
> Given the risks of public life, I'm starting to think it's a sensible
> practice for him.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
I was going to bring up Billy Graham but I figured a lot
of people wouldn't have a clue who he is.

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:28:31 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> I think the system of trusting ones spouse is more honourable. I knew
> I could trust David and he I, far better system. Then again, both of
> us were/are atheists so wouldn't want to follow BG
>
>
Yes, it's honorable to trust your spouse but there are some really
stupid, self-centered, dishonest people in this world. It has
nothing to do with one's spouse but the unscrupulous person who
has mischief in mind.

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 3:44:41 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 14:58:11 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>
> >>
> >> I think the system of trusting ones spouse is more honourable. I knew
> >> I could trust David and he I, far better system. Then again, both of
> >> us were/are atheists so wouldn't want to follow BG
> >>
> >By-election here tomorrow - Harper's old riding. The leaflet from the
> >Christian Heritage Party should be re-labelled Christian Bigotry Party.
> >One has to be *very* careful in dealings with devout evangelical xtians.
> >As a general rule, they can't be trusted.
> >Graham (atheist since 14)
>
> Wow, just so long as you don't re-elect Harper You are correct I
> remember being disgusted with the preaching behaviour of the 7th Day
> in Tokyo after the war ended. Later on there were nuns who lived
> near us, I think I disliked them even more. These sects seem to feel
> so long as they can somehow justify anything that is in their minds
> written in the bible, it's okay even good.
>
> I didn't realise I was an atheist at age 8 but I was. My mother
> decided to send me to the Sunday School at the cathedral in Hong Kong.
> One Sunday walking up I gave my collection money to a beggar on the
> street. I was soundly smacked by the teacher when I said what I had
> done with it. I didn't exactly understand but had enough gumption to
> realise something was a bit wrong with the picture!

I guess that I was always an atheist but 'devoutly' so during my teenage years.
My Missionary sister tried to Christianize me for eons. It just didn't
take. I have read the Bible from cover to cover for all the good it did,
probably as much as to understand where these people were coming from than
anything else.
Harper and his gang???...well I always considered them as perverse and nasty
judgemental people who believed in a cruel and punishing God and were very controlling.
====

On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 18:45:50 -0300, wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 15:08:43 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 16:28:27 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 08:53:07 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 11:26:45 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 10:14:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On 4/2/2017 5:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
>>>>> >>> than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Trump will never grab a pussy - at least not on my watch. I don't want to be dining alone with a women either. That's the devil's work! It makes me nervous being seen like that.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I can see where a woman can make accusations but I'd think in public
>>>>> >would be safer than in private if that is your concern.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >People get silly over a married person being seen with a person of the
>>>>> >opposite sex that is not their spouse or SO. For years I've had many
>>>>> >female friends and often did things with them and never thought anything
>>>>> >about it. Just friends enjoying a concert, show, meal, trip to the
>>>>> >store, whatever.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >A couple of times I wanted to visit a particular place and my wife was
>>>>> >not interested. She even suggested I take Betty or Joan as they would
>>>>> >probably enjoy it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> Ditto, that was how we worked too. I figure if Pence sincerely feels
>>>>> that way his wife is likely a jealous type. Or he doesn't trust
>>>>> himself.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps you and Bruce should investigate why he's that way:
>>>>
>>>><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule>
>>>>
>>>>Given the risks of public life, I'm starting to think it's a sensible
>>>>practice for him.
>>>>
>>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>>I think the system of trusting ones spouse is more honourable. I knew
>>>I could trust David and he I, far better system. Then again, both of
>>>us were/are atheists so wouldn't want to follow BG
>>
>>He is a Fundamentalist.
>>Janet US
>
>That which is called a fish, by any other name was stink as bad after
>7 days

LOL
Janet US

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 12:12:11 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:28:31 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> >
> > I think the system of trusting ones spouse is more honourable. I knew
> > I could trust David and he I, far better system. Then again, both of
> > us were/are atheists so wouldn't want to follow BG
> >
> >
> Yes, it's honorable to trust your spouse but there are some really
> stupid, self-centered, dishonest people in this world. It has
> nothing to do with one's spouse but the unscrupulous person who
> has mischief in mind.

Couples tend to place their undying faith in their spouse - right up to the point they find out they've been betrayed. My perception is that may have happened a time or two.

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:53:10 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule>
>>
>> Given the risks of public life, I'm starting to think it's a sensible
>> practice for him.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>
>I was going to bring up Billy Graham but I figured a lot
>of people wouldn't have a clue who he is.

Even I know. Isn't (wasn't?) he a fundamentalist Protestant TV
preacher?

On 4/2/2017 5:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/2/2017 2:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> People of the opposite sex can be "just friends." Does that happen
>>> very often? I have my doubts. It also makes me uncomfortable to be
>>> seen with attractive, well-dressed, people which is likely to happen
>>> when sales reps offer to take you out to lunch. I do like the free
>>> food though.
>>>
>>
>> I see no reason the cannot be if you are emotionally mature and secure.
>> Helps if your spouse is too. The few women I'm friends with I've known
>> for 25 years, 35 years, 45 years. There have been situations where we
>> were very much alone too. All you have to do is be respectful and keep
>> your hands to yourself.
>
> It certainly is possible. Anything is possible. My guess is that it hurts marriages more than it helps.
>
Why would it hurt? If you are untrusting or jealous I can see it. In
the case of my women friends, I care a lot about them as friends. The
friendship is strong enough that I'm not going to jeopardize it by
something as silly as grabbing a boob or otherwise making move on them.

I guess you have to look at women as equals, not sex objects.

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:21:04 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/2/2017 5:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 4/2/2017 2:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> People of the opposite sex can be "just friends." Does that happen
> >>> very often? I have my doubts. It also makes me uncomfortable to be
> >>> seen with attractive, well-dressed, people which is likely to happen
> >>> when sales reps offer to take you out to lunch. I do like the free
> >>> food though.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I see no reason the cannot be if you are emotionally mature and secure.
> >> Helps if your spouse is too. The few women I'm friends with I've known
> >> for 25 years, 35 years, 45 years. There have been situations where we
> >> were very much alone too. All you have to do is be respectful and keep
> >> your hands to yourself.
> >
> > It certainly is possible. Anything is possible. My guess is that it hurts marriages more than it helps.
> >
> Why would it hurt? If you are untrusting or jealous I can see it. In
> the case of my women friends, I care a lot about them as friends. The
> friendship is strong enough that I'm not going to jeopardize it by
> something as silly as grabbing a boob or otherwise making move on them.
>
> I guess you have to look at women as equals, not sex objects.

I don't have any problems with women as equals, I don't want to place myself in uncomfortable situations - it's as simple as that.

On 4/2/2017 5:44 PM, wrote:

>
> I didn't realise I was an atheist at age 8 but I was. My mother
> decided to send me to the Sunday School at the cathedral in Hong Kong.
> One Sunday walking up I gave my collection money to a beggar on the
> street. I was soundly smacked by the teacher when I said what I had
> done with it. I didn't exactly understand but had enough gumption to
> realise something was a bit wrong with the picture!
>

I'm not an atheist, I have my own thoughts on a supreme being or greater
power. None of my thoughts coincide with organized religion though.
That was solidified by 12 years of Catholic school. I did learn that
nothing is more important than using your weekly church envelope, just
as you did. Church priorities were always different than mine, even as a
kid.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:14:57 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/2/2017 5:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
> > >> than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
> > >
> > > Trump will never grab a pussy - at least not on my watch. I don't want to be dining alone with a women either. That's the devil's work! It makes me nervous being seen like that.
> > >
> >
> > I can see where a woman can make accusations but I'd think in public
> > would be safer than in private if that is your concern.
> >
> > People get silly over a married person being seen with a person of the
> > opposite sex that is not their spouse or SO. For years I've had many
> > female friends and often did things with them and never thought anything
> > about it. Just friends enjoying a concert, show, meal, trip to the
> > store, whatever.
> >
> > A couple of times I wanted to visit a particular place and my wife was
> > not interested. She even suggested I take Betty or Joan as they would
> > probably enjoy it.
>
> People of the opposite sex can be "just friends." Does that happen very often?
I have my doubts.

We both do the same as Ed describes. Some of my men friends have been
"just friends" for longer than I (or they) have been married.

Janet UK

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:47:17 PM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> dsi1yahoo.com says...
> >
> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:14:57 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 4/2/2017 5:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
> > > >> than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
> > > >
> > > > Trump will never grab a pussy - at least not on my watch. I don't want to be dining alone with a women either. That's the devil's work! It makes me nervous being seen like that.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I can see where a woman can make accusations but I'd think in public
> > > would be safer than in private if that is your concern.
> > >
> > > People get silly over a married person being seen with a person of the
> > > opposite sex that is not their spouse or SO. For years I've had many
> > > female friends and often did things with them and never thought anything
> > > about it. Just friends enjoying a concert, show, meal, trip to the
> > > store, whatever.
> > >
> > > A couple of times I wanted to visit a particular place and my wife was
> > > not interested. She even suggested I take Betty or Joan as they would
> > > probably enjoy it.
> >
> > People of the opposite sex can be "just friends." Does that happen very often?
> I have my doubts.
>
> We both do the same as Ed describes. Some of my men friends have been
> "just friends" for longer than I (or they) have been married.
>
> Janet UK

I have no problem with how other people conduct themselves. I don't have any problem with what my wife does. She's an adult and I trust her. It's not a big deal to me but I got my comfort zones.

On 4/2/2017 8:28 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>>>
>>>> I see no reason the cannot be if you are emotionally mature and secure.
>>>> Helps if your spouse is too. The few women I'm friends with I've known
>>>> for 25 years, 35 years, 45 years. There have been situations where we
>>>> were very much alone too. All you have to do is be respectful and keep
>>>> your hands to yourself.
>>>
>>> It certainly is possible. Anything is possible. My guess is that it hurts marriages more than it helps.
>>>
>> Why would it hurt? If you are untrusting or jealous I can see it. In
>> the case of my women friends, I care a lot about them as friends. The
>> friendship is strong enough that I'm not going to jeopardize it by
>> something as silly as grabbing a boob or otherwise making move on them.
>>
>> I guess you have to look at women as equals, not sex objects.
>
> I don't have any problems with women as equals, I don't want to place myself in uncomfortable situations - it's as simple as that.
>

Fair enough. I have no reason to be uncomfortable. I don't care what
others may think, I don't care what anyone sees as there are no secrets.
Before I moved away, I'd have lunch with Joan on occasion and people
would try to figure out what was going on and try to listen to our
conversation. We'd have some fun with it. Amazing how many small
minded people are out there.

On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 18:21:51 -0300, wrote:

snip
>
>Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
>than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.

I know you'll like this
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/op...lem/ar-BBz49MW
or
http://tinyurl.com/kheqx3v
Janet US

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:21:04 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/2/2017 5:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> On 4/2/2017 2:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> People of the opposite sex can be "just friends." Does that happen
>> >>> very often? I have my doubts. It also makes me uncomfortable to be
>> >>> seen with attractive, well-dressed, people which is likely to happen
>> >>> when sales reps offer to take you out to lunch. I do like the free
>> >>> food though.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I see no reason the cannot be if you are emotionally mature and secure.
>> >> Helps if your spouse is too. The few women I'm friends with I've known
>> >> for 25 years, 35 years, 45 years. There have been situations where we
>> >> were very much alone too. All you have to do is be respectful and keep
>> >> your hands to yourself.
>> >
>> > It certainly is possible. Anything is possible. My guess is that it hurts marriages more than it helps.
>> >
>> Why would it hurt? If you are untrusting or jealous I can see it. In
>> the case of my women friends, I care a lot about them as friends. The
>> friendship is strong enough that I'm not going to jeopardize it by
>> something as silly as grabbing a boob or otherwise making move on them.
>>
>> I guess you have to look at women as equals, not sex objects.
>
>I don't have any problems with women as equals, I don't want to place myself in uncomfortable situations - it's as simple as that.

That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
different than eatng a meal with any friend.

On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 01:17:21 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 18:21:51 -0300, wrote:
>
>snip
>>
>>Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
>>than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
>
>I know you'll like this
>http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/op...lem/ar-BBz49MW
>or
>http://tinyurl.com/kheqx3v
>Janet US

Very humorous at the start over Pence but scary in the other half over
states moving to control abortion by such means. No surprise after
watching the Frontline on PBS in the fall about abortion clinics going
belly up after the new Texas and Missouri laws that they must have
full operating rooms

On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 07:49:57 -0300, wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:21:04 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> >
>>> Why would it hurt? If you are untrusting or jealous I can see it. In
>>> the case of my women friends, I care a lot about them as friends. The
>>> friendship is strong enough that I'm not going to jeopardize it by
>>> something as silly as grabbing a boob or otherwise making move on them.
>>>
>>> I guess you have to look at women as equals, not sex objects.
>>
>>I don't have any problems with women as equals, I don't want to place myself in uncomfortable situations - it's as simple as that.
>
>That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
>different than eatng a meal with any friend.

I'm guessing dsi1 is a very horny man. When he's alone with a woman,
he goes Hawaiian on her.

On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 08:02:15 -0300, wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 01:17:21 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 18:21:51 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>snip
>>>
>>>Pence is weird, I was reading he won't dine alone with a woman other
>>>than his wife, must have a very low resistance level or something.
>>
>>I know you'll like this
>>http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/op...lem/ar-BBz49MW
>>or
>>http://tinyurl.com/kheqx3v
>>Janet US
>
>Very humorous at the start over Pence but scary in the other half over
>states moving to control abortion by such means. No surprise after
>watching the Frontline on PBS in the fall about abortion clinics going
>belly up after the new Texas and Missouri laws that they must have
>full operating rooms

yep.
Janet US

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 12:50:02 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:21:04 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 4/2/2017 5:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >> On 4/2/2017 2:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> People of the opposite sex can be "just friends." Does that happen
> >> >>> very often? I have my doubts. It also makes me uncomfortable to be
> >> >>> seen with attractive, well-dressed, people which is likely to happen
> >> >>> when sales reps offer to take you out to lunch. I do like the free
> >> >>> food though.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> I see no reason the cannot be if you are emotionally mature and secure.
> >> >> Helps if your spouse is too. The few women I'm friends with I've known
> >> >> for 25 years, 35 years, 45 years. There have been situations where we
> >> >> were very much alone too. All you have to do is be respectful and keep
> >> >> your hands to yourself.
> >> >
> >> > It certainly is possible. Anything is possible. My guess is that it hurts marriages more than it helps.
> >> >
> >> Why would it hurt? If you are untrusting or jealous I can see it. In
> >> the case of my women friends, I care a lot about them as friends. The
> >> friendship is strong enough that I'm not going to jeopardize it by
> >> something as silly as grabbing a boob or otherwise making move on them.
> >>
> >> I guess you have to look at women as equals, not sex objects.
> >
> >I don't have any problems with women as equals, I don't want to place myself in uncomfortable situations - it's as simple as that.
>
> That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
> different than eatng a meal with any friend.

I'll chalk this up to cultural differences. Asians got different ideas on how people should conduct themselves. I'm not saying it's superior, just different. White folks just love to tell other people how they should be more like themselves. That's just white folks being white folks.

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:20:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 12:50:02 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:21:04 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> On 4/2/2017 5:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> >> On 4/2/2017 2:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> People of the opposite sex can be "just friends." Does that happen
>> >> >>> very often? I have my doubts. It also makes me uncomfortable to be
>> >> >>> seen with attractive, well-dressed, people which is likely to happen
>> >> >>> when sales reps offer to take you out to lunch. I do like the free
>> >> >>> food though.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I see no reason the cannot be if you are emotionally mature and secure.
>> >> >> Helps if your spouse is too. The few women I'm friends with I've known
>> >> >> for 25 years, 35 years, 45 years. There have been situations where we
>> >> >> were very much alone too. All you have to do is be respectful and keep
>> >> >> your hands to yourself.
>> >> >
>> >> > It certainly is possible. Anything is possible. My guess is that it hurts marriages more than it helps.
>> >> >
>> >> Why would it hurt? If you are untrusting or jealous I can see it. In
>> >> the case of my women friends, I care a lot about them as friends. The
>> >> friendship is strong enough that I'm not going to jeopardize it by
>> >> something as silly as grabbing a boob or otherwise making move on them.
>> >>
>> >> I guess you have to look at women as equals, not sex objects.
>> >
>> >I don't have any problems with women as equals, I don't want to place myself in uncomfortable situations - it's as simple as that.
>>
>> That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
>> different than eatng a meal with any friend.
>
>I'll chalk this up to cultural differences. Asians got different ideas on how people should conduct themselves. I'm not saying it's superior, just different. White folks just love to tell other people how they should be more like themselves. That's just white folks being white folks.

So Asians are superior after all. I just knew it.

On 2017-04-03 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 12:50:02 AM UTC-10,
> wrote:

>> That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
>> different than eatng a meal with any friend.
>
> I'll chalk this up to cultural differences. Asians got different
> ideas on how people should conduct themselves. I'm not saying it's
> superior, just different. White folks just love to tell other people
> how they should be more like themselves. That's just white folks
> being white folks.

Some white cultures have a way of boosting the standard of living for
themselves and the people they set up governments for. Take a look
around the world at the most successful countries, those with high
standards of living, human rights, credible legal systems and
infrastructures that promote industrial growth. Most of them were
British colonies. They may have had their faults, but they appear to
have done better than others. The Germans and Belgiums were pretty
brutal in their colonies, but perhaps not as bad as the Spanish and
Portuguese.

For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure are a
lot of people trying to immigrate to them.

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:00:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-04-03 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 12:50:02 AM UTC-10,
>> wrote:
>
>>> That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
>>> different than eatng a meal with any friend.
>>
>> I'll chalk this up to cultural differences. Asians got different
>> ideas on how people should conduct themselves. I'm not saying it's
>> superior, just different. White folks just love to tell other people
>> how they should be more like themselves. That's just white folks
>> being white folks.
>
>Some white cultures have a way of boosting the standard of living for
>themselves and the people they set up governments for. Take a look
>around the world at the most successful countries, those with high
>standards of living, human rights, credible legal systems and
>infrastructures that promote industrial growth. Most of them were
>British colonies.

France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, Netherlands,
Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland.

>They may have had their faults, but they appear to
>have done better than others. The Germans and Belgiums were pretty
>brutal in their colonies, but perhaps not as bad as the Spanish and
>Portuguese.

The Germans and the Belgians hardly had any colonies.

>For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure are a
>lot of people trying to immigrate to them.

Yes, I don't see the need to idolise Asians. Look at countries where
they're in charge. Look at the poverty and the lack of human rights.

By the way, how do you define Asians? Indians are also Asians, Turks
too. Saudi Arabians too.

On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 05:06:55 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:00:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2017-04-03 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 12:50:02 AM UTC-10,
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
>>>> different than eatng a meal with any friend.
>>>
>>> I'll chalk this up to cultural differences. Asians got different
>>> ideas on how people should conduct themselves. I'm not saying it's
>>> superior, just different. White folks just love to tell other people
>>> how they should be more like themselves. That's just white folks
>>> being white folks.
>>
>>Some white cultures have a way of boosting the standard of living for
>>themselves and the people they set up governments for. Take a look
>>around the world at the most successful countries, those with high
>>standards of living, human rights, credible legal systems and
>>infrastructures that promote industrial growth. Most of them were
>>British colonies.
>
>France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, Netherlands,
>Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland.
>
>>They may have had their faults, but they appear to
>>have done better than others. The Germans and Belgiums were pretty
>>brutal in their colonies, but perhaps not as bad as the Spanish and
>>Portuguese.
>
>The Germans and the Belgians hardly had any colonies.

They were appallingly brutal in the Belgian Congo, I forget how
millions in how short a period
>
>>For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure are a
>>lot of people trying to immigrate to them.
>
>Yes, I don't see the need to idolise Asians. Look at countries where
>they're in charge. Look at the poverty and the lack of human rights.
>
>By the way, how do you define Asians? Indians are also Asians, Turks
>too. Saudi Arabians too.

Suadis are Saudi, not Asian.

On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 16:15:35 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 05:06:55 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:00:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>They may have had their faults, but they appear to
>>>have done better than others. The Germans and Belgiums were pretty
>>>brutal in their colonies, but perhaps not as bad as the Spanish and
>>>Portuguese.
>>
>>The Germans and the Belgians hardly had any colonies.
>
>They were appallingly brutal in the Belgian Congo, I forget how
>millions in how short a period

All colonizers were awful. The Belgians only had one colony.

>>>For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure are a
>>>lot of people trying to immigrate to them.
>>
>>Yes, I don't see the need to idolise Asians. Look at countries where
>>they're in charge. Look at the poverty and the lack of human rights.
>>
>>By the way, how do you define Asians? Indians are also Asians, Turks
>>too. Saudi Arabians too.
>
>Suadis are Saudi, not Asian.

Saudi Arabia is a country in Asia. That makes Saudis Asians. Just like
I'm Dutch and European (and Australian).

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-04-03 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 12:50:02 AM UTC-10,
> > wrote:
>
> >> That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
> >> different than eatng a meal with any friend.
> >
> > I'll chalk this up to cultural differences. Asians got different
> > ideas on how people should conduct themselves. I'm not saying it's
> > superior, just different. White folks just love to tell other people
> > how they should be more like themselves. That's just white folks
> > being white folks.
>
> Some white cultures have a way of boosting the standard of living for
> themselves and the people they set up governments for. Take a look
> around the world at the most successful countries, those with high
> standards of living, human rights, credible legal systems and
> infrastructures that promote industrial growth. Most of them were
> British colonies. They may have had their faults, but they appear to
> have done better than others. The Germans and Belgiums were pretty
> brutal in their colonies, but perhaps not as bad as the Spanish and
> Portuguese.
>
> For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure are a
> lot of people trying to immigrate to them.

Sometimes they wipe out the native population and steal their homelands. I'm guessing you forgot about that small little thing of hardly little interest to nobody but a few non-whites.

No matter, I don't have anything against white folk. When I was going to school, the kids thought I was raised by white folk. I'm married to white folk, my kids are half white folk. OTOH I am confident that they're not interested in getting into other people's business and trying to tell them how to live and who they should associate with. That's just a nasty little thing that white folk do. I think it's some kind of personality defect or maybe a sign of mental illness. Perhaps they're just plain arrogant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commit...Safety_(Hawaii)

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 2:20:44 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> Saudi Arabia is a country in Asia. That makes Saudis Asians. Just like
> I'm Dutch and European (and Australian).
>
>
OMG!!!!!!! What map are you looking at? Is it
upside down??

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 1:40:44 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2017-04-03 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 12:50:02 AM UTC-10,
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >> That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
> > >> different than eatng a meal with any friend.
> > >
> > > I'll chalk this up to cultural differences. Asians got different
> > > ideas on how people should conduct themselves. I'm not saying it's
> > > superior, just different. White folks just love to tell other people
> > > how they should be more like themselves. That's just white folks
> > > being white folks.
> >
> > Some white cultures have a way of boosting the standard of living for
> > themselves and the people they set up governments for. Take a look
> > around the world at the most successful countries, those with high
> > standards of living, human rights, credible legal systems and
> > infrastructures that promote industrial growth. Most of them were
> > British colonies. They may have had their faults, but they appear to
> > have done better than others. The Germans and Belgiums were pretty
> > brutal in their colonies, but perhaps not as bad as the Spanish and
> > Portuguese.
> >
> > For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure are a
> > lot of people trying to immigrate to them.
>
> Sometimes they wipe out the native population and steal their homelands. I'm guessing you forgot about that small little thing of hardly little interest to nobody but a few non-whites.
>
> No matter, I don't have anything against white folk. When I was going to school, the kids thought I was raised by white folk. I'm married to white folk, my kids are half white folk. OTOH I am confident that they're not interested in getting into other people's business and trying to tell them how to live and who they should associate with. That's just a nasty little thing that white folk do. I think it's some kind of personality defect or maybe a sign of mental illness. Perhaps they're just plain arrogant.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commit...Safety_(Hawaii)

"Sometimes"?...don't you mean "MOST OF THE TIME"? That seems to be the MO for
most colonists no matter they be black, white, or green. Aggression against
other peoples and cultures seems to be a human trait carried on from their
days when they lived as animals in the jungle.
====

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:15:34 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 2:20:44 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Saudi Arabia is a country in Asia. That makes Saudis Asians. Just like
>> I'm Dutch and European (and Australian).
>>
>>
>OMG!!!!!!! What map are you looking at? Is it
>upside down??

Yes, we put Australia on top

No really, here's Wikipedia:
"Saudi Arabia, officially known as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, is an
Arab sovereign state in Western Asia constituting the bulk of the
Arabian Peninsula."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:16:18 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote:

>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 1:40:44 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> Sometimes they wipe out the native population and steal their homelands. I'm guessing you forgot about that small little thing of hardly little interest to nobody but a few non-whites.
>>
>> No matter, I don't have anything against white folk. When I was going to school, the kids thought I was raised by white folk. I'm married to white folk, my kids are half white folk. OTOH I am confident that they're not interested in getting into other people's business and trying to tell them how to live and who they should associate with. That's just a nasty little thing that white folk do. I think it's some kind of personality defect or maybe a sign of mental illness. Perhaps they're just plain arrogant.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commit...Safety_(Hawaii)
>
>"Sometimes"?...don't you mean "MOST OF THE TIME"? That seems to be the MO for
>most colonists no matter they be black, white, or green. Aggression against
>other peoples and cultures seems to be a human trait carried on from their
>days when they lived as animals in the jungle.
>====

Yes, I think the Tibetans would have a bit to say about the colonising
behaviour of the Chinese, who are Asians par excellence, n'est-ce pas?

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:16:24 AM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 1:40:44 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2017-04-03 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 12:50:02 AM UTC-10,
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >> That doesn't work, if you truly regard them as equals, it's no
> > > >> different than eatng a meal with any friend.
> > > >
> > > > I'll chalk this up to cultural differences. Asians got different
> > > > ideas on how people should conduct themselves. I'm not saying it's
> > > > superior, just different. White folks just love to tell other people
> > > > how they should be more like themselves. That's just white folks
> > > > being white folks.
> > >
> > > Some white cultures have a way of boosting the standard of living for
> > > themselves and the people they set up governments for. Take a look
> > > around the world at the most successful countries, those with high
> > > standards of living, human rights, credible legal systems and
> > > infrastructures that promote industrial growth. Most of them were
> > > British colonies. They may have had their faults, but they appear to
> > > have done better than others. The Germans and Belgiums were pretty
> > > brutal in their colonies, but perhaps not as bad as the Spanish and
> > > Portuguese.
> > >
> > > For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure are a
> > > lot of people trying to immigrate to them.
> >
> > Sometimes they wipe out the native population and steal their homelands.. I'm guessing you forgot about that small little thing of hardly little interest to nobody but a few non-whites.
> >
> > No matter, I don't have anything against white folk. When I was going to school, the kids thought I was raised by white folk. I'm married to white folk, my kids are half white folk. OTOH I am confident that they're not interested in getting into other people's business and trying to tell them how to live and who they should associate with. That's just a nasty little thing that white folk do. I think it's some kind of personality defect or maybe a sign of mental illness. Perhaps they're just plain arrogant.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commit...Safety_(Hawaii)
>
> "Sometimes"?...don't you mean "MOST OF THE TIME"? That seems to be the MO for
> most colonists no matter they be black, white, or green. Aggression against
> other peoples and cultures seems to be a human trait carried on from their
> days when they lived as animals in the jungle.
> ====

I didn't say "most of the time" because I don't have stats on this. "Sometimes" is easily a more defendable word and a good defence is the... blah blah blah. Let's face it, when your civilization meets up with another civilization, you'd better hope yours is the more advanced one. Things will go smoother that way - for you, at least.

On 2017-04-03 3:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

>> For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure
>> are a lot of people trying to immigrate to them.
>
> Sometimes they wipe out the native population and steal their
> homelands. I'm guessing you forgot about that small little thing of
> hardly little interest to nobody but a few non-whites.

They do not hold a monopoly on that. He have native issues here in
Canada and I suppose we are all supposed to feel guilty about what was
done a few generations before us. Yes, I suppose they took native land.
It looked to be empty land because there were so few natives on it.
The native population in the area where I live had been wiped out, but
not by white Europeans. They were wiped out by their fellow natives when
they got caught up in a war between two larger groups. Around the time
that Europeans arrived in Canada the Iroquois expanded north into
present day Canada and forced the other natives out. The boundaries of
the native tribes were quite fluid. They roamed certain areas only as
long as they could keep it from their enemies. They fought each other
for control of the land, and sometimes they lost.

>
> No matter, I don't have anything against white folk. When I was going
> to school, the kids thought I was raised by white folk. I'm married
> to white folk, my kids are half white folk. OTOH I am confident that
> they're not interested in getting into other people's business and
> trying to tell them how to live and who they should associate with.
> That's just a nasty little thing that white folk do. I think it's
> some kind of personality defect or maybe a sign of mental illness.
> Perhaps they're just plain arrogant.

I guess that sort of arrogance is a bit of a magnet for the hundreds of
thousands of people who try to immigrate to those former British
colonies every year. Some are looking for economic opportunities and
some are just looking to escape the crime and violence of their homelands.

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 11:14:42 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-04-03 3:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure
> >> are a lot of people trying to immigrate to them.
> >
> > Sometimes they wipe out the native population and steal their
> > homelands. I'm guessing you forgot about that small little thing of
> > hardly little interest to nobody but a few non-whites.
>
> They do not hold a monopoly on that. He have native issues here in
> Canada and I suppose we are all supposed to feel guilty about what was
> done a few generations before us. Yes, I suppose they took native land.
> It looked to be empty land because there were so few natives on it.
> The native population in the area where I live had been wiped out, but
> not by white Europeans. They were wiped out by their fellow natives when
> they got caught up in a war between two larger groups. Around the time
> that Europeans arrived in Canada the Iroquois expanded north into
> present day Canada and forced the other natives out. The boundaries of
> the native tribes were quite fluid. They roamed certain areas only as
> long as they could keep it from their enemies. They fought each other
> for control of the land, and sometimes they lost.
>
> >
> > No matter, I don't have anything against white folk. When I was going
> > to school, the kids thought I was raised by white folk. I'm married
> > to white folk, my kids are half white folk. OTOH I am confident that
> > they're not interested in getting into other people's business and
> > trying to tell them how to live and who they should associate with.
> > That's just a nasty little thing that white folk do. I think it's
> > some kind of personality defect or maybe a sign of mental illness.
> > Perhaps they're just plain arrogant.
>
> I guess that sort of arrogance is a bit of a magnet for the hundreds of
> thousands of people who try to immigrate to those former British
> colonies every year. Some are looking for economic opportunities and
> some are just looking to escape the crime and violence of their homelands.

You're into throwing in the kitchen sink/red herring line of debate. You win because I don't have the time nor the desire to hold on for the last word.

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 17:16:51 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-04-03 3:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> For a culture that is so abhorrent to so many people, there sure
>>> are a lot of people trying to immigrate to them.
>>
>> Sometimes they wipe out the native population and steal their
>> homelands. I'm guessing you forgot about that small little thing of
>> hardly little interest to nobody but a few non-whites.
>
>They do not hold a monopoly on that. He have native issues here in
>Canada and I suppose we are all supposed to feel guilty about what was
>done a few generations before us. Yes, I suppose they took native land.
> It looked to be empty land because there were so few natives on it.
>The native population in the area where I live had been wiped out, but
>not by white Europeans. They were wiped out by their fellow natives when
>they got caught up in a war between two larger groups. Around the time
>that Europeans arrived in Canada the Iroquois expanded north into
>present day Canada and forced the other natives out. The boundaries of
>the native tribes were quite fluid. They roamed certain areas only as
>long as they could keep it from their enemies. They fought each other
>for control of the land, and sometimes they lost.
>
>>
>> No matter, I don't have anything against white folk. When I was going
>> to school, the kids thought I was raised by white folk. I'm married
>> to white folk, my kids are half white folk. OTOH I am confident that
>> they're not interested in getting into other people's business and
>> trying to tell them how to live and who they should associate with.
>> That's just a nasty little thing that white folk do. I think it's
>> some kind of personality defect or maybe a sign of mental illness.
>> Perhaps they're just plain arrogant.
>
>I guess that sort of arrogance is a bit of a magnet for the hundreds of
>thousands of people who try to immigrate to those former British
>colonies every year. Some are looking for economic opportunities and
>some are just looking to escape the crime and violence of their homelands.

And many Indian friends have made comments about how grateful they
were that the British Raj put in place a government heirarchy and
railroad system, thus considerably helping their path into todays
world.