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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
>>>
>>> A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
>>> When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.

>>
>>
>>
>> When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they like
>> and prefer.
>>
>> Cheri

>
> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
>
> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the description
> of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended for use on glass
> stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle mfg's say about using the
> product than decide, what the heck, too bad, so sad if I break the glass
> stove top. <shrug>
>
> Jill




I don't know. I like gas, so I cook with gas.

Cheri

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On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 3:12:56 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:04:55 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 2:47:45 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 7:08:58 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
> > > >
> > > > A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
> > > > When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.
> > >
> > > Actually, all adults, kids, and old folks should be cooking with induction. That would reduce kitchen fires down to near zero.

> >
> > Amazingly, the incidence of kitchen fires in my house is
> > zero. No induction required, and I can use my preferred
> > teflon-coated aluminum pans.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

>
> That's statistics for you. Mostly, it greatly reduces your chances for a kitchen fire. This is independant of whether you've had a kitchen fire or not. I wish I could use teflon pans too - teflon coated steel pans are kind of hard to find.


I've got a Circulon nonstick frying pan that is induction-compatible. I've
got an induction hotplate that I've used a few times without much enthusiasm.
I prefer the vintage 1975 electric-coil hotplate that I got as a
"going away to college" gift from my mother's best friend.

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On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:13:57 -0400, jmcquown >
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>On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
>>>
>>> A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
>>> When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.

>>
>>
>>
>> When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they like
>> and prefer.
>>
>> Cheri

>
>True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
>
>In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the
>description of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended for
>use on glass stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle mfg's say
>about using the product than decide, what the heck, too bad, so sad if I
>break the glass stove top. <shrug>
>
>Jill


they are simply covering their butts against some stupido who will
bang it down on the top!

I will say again, 11 years ago when i bought mine all my pots and pans
continued in use, gthat inclluded many cast iron and le crueset types,
some copper pans etc. Nothing has happeened to the pans or the glass
top.

the surface heats fast and safely, there is one burner that does it
twice as fast, I can also switch 'a bridge' on between front and back
burner for the griddle, there is also a small burner in the middle
that will gently warm plates, one of the things that i found
particularly attractive.

that is fact and experience versus opinion based on manufacturers
babble.
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:00:34 -0400, jmcquown >
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>On 4/11/2017 2:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On 4/10/2017 1:15 PM, wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> i use cast iron on a glass cooktop, zero problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> We used cast iron on ours and it always left dark rings that were
>>>>> hard to remove.
>>>>
>>>> People who have glass top stoves don't do any significant cooking...
>>>> they buy them primarily for show, not go.... has anyone ever seen a
>>>> glass cooktop in a restaurnat kitchen, I've never.
>>>>
>>> We all believe you've been in every restaurant kitchen. However, on
>>> this point I will agree with you. They don't use glass top stoves in
>>> restaurants.
>>>
>>> As for moving heavy pots and pans around on a stove... yes, I do
>>> that. Got some heavy cookware, too. I take things off the heat, put
>>> them on another burner on reduced heat, whatever. It's called
>>> "cooking".
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> Same here Jill. I have nothing against glass tops for those who like
>> them, but my gas oven has solid tops and I can slide from burner to
>> burner across them as easily as a glass top, and no worry on scratching
>> the cast iron overlays.
>>

>I have an old electric stove. I don't even think about "sliding"
>cookware across the stove top surface. LOL I don't think I ever have
>been able to slide pots and pans across a stove top. Just move the
>pan/skillet/pot to a different burner. <shrug> I grew up with electric
>stoves from childhood. The ability to slide doesn't make me want a
>glass top. <shrug>
>
>Jill


well <shrug> I purchased my own and I like the glass top and can't
envision why I would choose more housework keeping an old electric
stove going - the world has moved forward, you seem left behind!
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 23:21:41 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
>>>>
>>>> A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
>>>> When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they like
>>> and prefer.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
>>
>> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the description
>> of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended for use on glass
>> stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle mfg's say about using the
>> product than decide, what the heck, too bad, so sad if I break the glass
>> stove top. <shrug>
>>
>> Jill

>
>
>
>I don't know. I like gas, so I cook with gas.
>
>Cheri


she seems to have this passion to prove she knows better than us who
are using them on glass tops and have done so for 11 years!

i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to gas until
we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric stoves with the
bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly metal rings on top. The
enamel was far harder to keep clean than a glass top. the first glass
top i bought in the early 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died
and gone to paradise


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On 4/13/2017 7:26 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 23:21:41 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
>>>>> When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they like
>>>> and prefer.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
>>>
>>> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the description
>>> of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended for use on glass
>>> stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle mfg's say about using the
>>> product than decide, what the heck, too bad, so sad if I break the glass
>>> stove top. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know. I like gas, so I cook with gas.
>>
>> Cheri

>
> she seems to have this passion to prove she knows better than us who
> are using them on glass tops and have done so for 11 years!
>

If you're referring to me, I don't have any sort of passion about it one
way or another. I simply bow to the cast iron griddle mfg's description
that it is not recommended for use on glass top stoves. Ed posted the link:

https://www.amazon.com/Chefs-Design-.../dp/B0001VQIG8

Read what it says: "Not suitable for glass/flat top ranges."

YMOV.

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On 4/13/2017 7:14 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:13:57 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
>>>>
>>>> A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
>>>> When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they like
>>> and prefer.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
>>
>> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the
>> description of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended for
>> use on glass stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle mfg's say
>> about using the product than decide, what the heck, too bad, so sad if I
>> break the glass stove top. <shrug>
>>
>> Jill

>
> they are simply covering their butts against some stupido who will
> bang it down on the top!
>

Entirely possible, but hey, why take the chance? I don't see much of a
reason to use a cast iron griddle on the stove top, regardless of what
type of stove it is. I use my griddle for baking, not cooking on top of
burners.

> I will say again, 11 years ago when i bought mine all my pots and pans
> continued in use, gthat inclluded many cast iron and le crueset types,
> some copper pans etc. Nothing has happeened to the pans or the glass
> top.
>

Truly, I'm happy for you! I enjoyed the look of your kitchen when you
posted pics.

Jill

> the surface heats fast and safely, there is one burner that does it
> twice as fast, I can also switch 'a bridge' on between front and back
> burner for the griddle, there is also a small burner in the middle
> that will gently warm plates, one of the things that i found
> particularly attractive.
>
> that is fact and experience versus opinion based on manufacturers
> babble.
>


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On 4/13/2017 2:17 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:05:53 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>> > Nancy2 wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
>>> >
>>> > Like that really counts for anything. Stupid worthless kid cooking
>>> > shows.
>>>
>>> Say, that's really harsh. Kids that cook are cute. I was a kid that
>>> cooked. I was cute.

>>
>> Those kid's parents and family would enjoy those shows, not me. Sorry.

>
>
>
> I hate those shows too. They're everywhere, they're
> everywhere...Seriously, I dislike what the food channels are becoming as
> a rule, all those contests etc. I do like most of the cooking shows on
> PBS, but they're not always on.
>
> Cheri
>

I occasionally see cooking shows on PBS very early in the morning on
weekends. It's not like it used to be. At least they aren't contests
or people (kids or otherwise) trying to beat the clock or trying to make
use of odd pre-selected ingredients. Then again, I don't often watch
television that early in the morning.

Jill
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On 4/13/2017 7:18 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:00:34 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/11/2017 2:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On 4/10/2017 1:15 PM,
wrote:
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i use cast iron on a glass cooktop, zero problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We used cast iron on ours and it always left dark rings that were
>>>>>> hard to remove.
>>>>>
>>>>> People who have glass top stoves don't do any significant cooking...
>>>>> they buy them primarily for show, not go.... has anyone ever seen a
>>>>> glass cooktop in a restaurnat kitchen, I've never.
>>>>>
>>>> We all believe you've been in every restaurant kitchen. However, on
>>>> this point I will agree with you. They don't use glass top stoves in
>>>> restaurants.
>>>>
>>>> As for moving heavy pots and pans around on a stove... yes, I do
>>>> that. Got some heavy cookware, too. I take things off the heat, put
>>>> them on another burner on reduced heat, whatever. It's called
>>>> "cooking".
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Same here Jill. I have nothing against glass tops for those who like
>>> them, but my gas oven has solid tops and I can slide from burner to
>>> burner across them as easily as a glass top, and no worry on scratching
>>> the cast iron overlays.
>>>

>> I have an old electric stove. I don't even think about "sliding"
>> cookware across the stove top surface. LOL I don't think I ever have
>> been able to slide pots and pans across a stove top. Just move the
>> pan/skillet/pot to a different burner. <shrug> I grew up with electric
>> stoves from childhood. The ability to slide doesn't make me want a
>> glass top. <shrug>
>>
>> Jill

>
> well <shrug> I purchased my own and I like the glass top and can't
> envision why I would choose more housework keeping an old electric
> stove going - the world has moved forward, you seem left behind!
>

Well <shrug> I am not going to replace a stove that works simply because
you bought something 11 years ago and love it. Enjoy it, but as long as
my appliances work I'll continue to use them.

Jill
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> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 23:21:41 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
>>>>> When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they like
>>>> and prefer.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
>>>
>>> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the
>>> description
>>> of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended for use on glass
>>> stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle mfg's say about using
>>> the
>>> product than decide, what the heck, too bad, so sad if I break the glass
>>> stove top. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>>
>>
>>I don't know. I like gas, so I cook with gas.
>>
>>Cheri

>
> she seems to have this passion to prove she knows better than us who
> are using them on glass tops and have done so for 11 years!
>
> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to gas until
> we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric stoves with the
> bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly metal rings on top. The
> enamel was far harder to keep clean than a glass top. the first glass
> top i bought in the early 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died
> and gone to paradise



I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old electric
though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc., really old) I hated
that, so I had gas piped to the stove and replaced the electric with a gas
stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself, I did prefer ovens with
the bare element because they heated faster and also when they did burn out,
I could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.

Cheri



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On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
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> wrote in message


>>
>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to gas until
>> we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric stoves with the
>> bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly metal rings on top. The
>> enamel was far harder to keep clean than a glass top. the first glass
>> top i bought in the early 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died
>> and gone to paradise

>
>
>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old electric
>though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc., really old) I hated
>that, so I had gas piped to the stove and replaced the electric with a gas
>stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself, I did prefer ovens with
>the bare element because they heated faster and also when they did burn out,
>I could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>
>Cheri


I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus is
no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts) last night
i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when i took them out,
with the left hand only, they all slid off! So for that rare occasion
the flat floor to the oven was great
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On 4/13/2017 7:18 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:00:34 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/11/2017 2:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On 4/10/2017 1:15 PM,
wrote:
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i use cast iron on a glass cooktop, zero problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We used cast iron on ours and it always left dark rings that were
>>>>>> hard to remove.
>>>>>
>>>>> People who have glass top stoves don't do any significant cooking...
>>>>> they buy them primarily for show, not go.... has anyone ever seen a
>>>>> glass cooktop in a restaurnat kitchen, I've never.
>>>>>
>>>> We all believe you've been in every restaurant kitchen. However, on
>>>> this point I will agree with you. They don't use glass top stoves in
>>>> restaurants.
>>>>
>>>> As for moving heavy pots and pans around on a stove... yes, I do
>>>> that. Got some heavy cookware, too. I take things off the heat, put
>>>> them on another burner on reduced heat, whatever. It's called
>>>> "cooking".
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Same here Jill. I have nothing against glass tops for those who like
>>> them, but my gas oven has solid tops and I can slide from burner to
>>> burner across them as easily as a glass top, and no worry on scratching
>>> the cast iron overlays.
>>>

>> I have an old electric stove. I don't even think about "sliding"
>> cookware across the stove top surface. LOL I don't think I ever have
>> been able to slide pots and pans across a stove top. Just move the
>> pan/skillet/pot to a different burner. <shrug> I grew up with electric
>> stoves from childhood. The ability to slide doesn't make me want a
>> glass top. <shrug>
>>
>> Jill

>
> well <shrug> I purchased my own and I like the glass top and can't
> envision why I would choose more housework keeping an old electric
> stove going - the world has moved forward, you seem left behind!
>

Well <shrug> I am not going to replace a stove that works simply because
you bought something 11 years ago and love it. Enjoy it, but as long as
my appliances work I'll continue to use them.

Jill
==

I don't care what anybody else uses!!! I like what I have and I have no
intention of changing it no matter how much they complain!!!

What say you???


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>"jmcquown" wrote in message news >
>On 4/13/2017 7:18 AM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:00:34 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/11/2017 2:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/10/2017 1:15 PM,
wrote:
>>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i use cast iron on a glass cooktop, zero problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We used cast iron on ours and it always left dark rings that were
>>>>>>> hard to remove.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People who have glass top stoves don't do any significant cooking...
>>>>>> they buy them primarily for show, not go.... has anyone ever seen a
>>>>>> glass cooktop in a restaurnat kitchen, I've never.
>>>>>>
>>>>> We all believe you've been in every restaurant kitchen. However, on
>>>>> this point I will agree with you. They don't use glass top stoves in
>>>>> restaurants.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for moving heavy pots and pans around on a stove... yes, I do
>>>>> that. Got some heavy cookware, too. I take things off the heat, put
>>>>> them on another burner on reduced heat, whatever. It's called
>>>>> "cooking".
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Same here Jill. I have nothing against glass tops for those who like
>>>> them, but my gas oven has solid tops and I can slide from burner to
>>>> burner across them as easily as a glass top, and no worry on scratching
>>>> the cast iron overlays.
>>>>
>>> I have an old electric stove. I don't even think about "sliding"
>>> cookware across the stove top surface. LOL I don't think I ever have
>>> been able to slide pots and pans across a stove top. Just move the
>>> pan/skillet/pot to a different burner. <shrug> I grew up with electric
>>> stoves from childhood. The ability to slide doesn't make me want a
>>> glass top. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> well <shrug> I purchased my own and I like the glass top and can't
>> envision why I would choose more housework keeping an old electric
>> stove going - the world has moved forward, you seem left behind!
>>

>Well <shrug> I am not going to replace a stove that works simply because
>you bought something 11 years ago and love it. Enjoy it, but as long as
>my appliances work I'll continue to use them.
>
>Jill
>==
>
>I don't care what anybody else uses!!! I like what I have and I have no
>intention of changing it no matter how much they complain!!!
>
>What say you???


precisely and i don't care for bei g told mine is impractical and i
must not use this and that and its a bugger to clean, none of which is
right and i am best placed - in this case 0 to know cast iron is fine
on glass tops.
i
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On Thu 13 Apr 2017 07:21:55a, jmcquown told us...

> On 4/13/2017 7:18 AM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:00:34 -0400, jmcquown
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/11/2017 2:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/10/2017 1:15 PM,
wrote:
>>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i use cast iron on a glass cooktop, zero problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We used cast iron on ours and it always left dark rings that
>>>>>>> were hard to remove.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People who have glass top stoves don't do any significant
>>>>>> cooking... they buy them primarily for show, not go.... has
>>>>>> anyone ever seen a glass cooktop in a restaurnat kitchen,
>>>>>> I've never.
>>>>>>
>>>>> We all believe you've been in every restaurant kitchen.
>>>>> However, on this point I will agree with you. They don't use
>>>>> glass top stoves in restaurants.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for moving heavy pots and pans around on a stove... yes, I
>>>>> do that. Got some heavy cookware, too. I take things off the
>>>>> heat, put them on another burner on reduced heat, whatever.
>>>>> It's called "cooking".
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Same here Jill. I have nothing against glass tops for those
>>>> who like them, but my gas oven has solid tops and I can slide
>>>> from burner to burner across them as easily as a glass top, and
>>>> no worry on scratching the cast iron overlays.
>>>>
>>> I have an old electric stove. I don't even think about
>>> "sliding" cookware across the stove top surface. LOL I don't
>>> think I ever have been able to slide pots and pans across a
>>> stove top. Just move the pan/skillet/pot to a different burner.
>>> <shrug> I grew up with electric stoves from childhood. The
>>> ability to slide doesn't make me want a glass top. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> well <shrug> I purchased my own and I like the glass top and
>> can't envision why I would choose more housework keeping an old
>> electric stove going - the world has moved forward, you seem left
>> behind!
>>

> Well <shrug> I am not going to replace a stove that works simply
> because you bought something 11 years ago and love it. Enjoy it,
> but as long as my appliances work I'll continue to use them.
>
> Jill
>


Back in the late 1960s a smooth top electric range was introduced
(think by Amana). The top was a totally white pyroceramic "glass"
that had faint outlines for the location of the burners. I saw one
of these in a home and talked with the owner, as I had not seen one
before. She had the stove installed a couple of years previously and
was not paticularly happy with it. The location of the burners had
gradually discolored to a shade of yellow and she indicatedd that it
was incredibly slow. This certainly does not represent the glass top
stoves of today. We bought a house in Ohio in the mid 1990s where he
kitchen had been completely redone. The electric stove had the cast
iron hods which I just couldn't get used to. We replaced it shortly
thereafter with a glass top stove. Because of several moves, we have
since owned several glass top stoves and have been extremely happy
with them. Our current model has 3 traditional burners (1 large and
2 smaller), 1 extra large burner that can be set for 3 different
diameters according to pot size, and 1 warmer burner. The stove also
has a warminig drawer at the bottom instead of a storage drawer,
although I confess I often use it for storage. The oven has "slow
cooker" settings" that you can use like a CrockPot. The bottom
heatin element is conpletely sealed under a steel plate. This is one
of the nicest stoves we've owned.


Wayne Boatwright

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I'm glad you are happy with it I always say, it is a good thing we don't
all like the same things. There wouldn't be enough to go around


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On Thu 13 Apr 2017 09:21:29a, Ophelia told us...

> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 4/13/2017 7:18 AM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:00:34 -0400, jmcquown
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/11/2017 2:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/10/2017 1:15 PM,
wrote:
>>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i use cast iron on a glass cooktop, zero problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We used cast iron on ours and it always left dark rings that
>>>>>>> were hard to remove.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People who have glass top stoves don't do any significant
>>>>>> cooking... they buy them primarily for show, not go.... has
>>>>>> anyone ever seen a glass cooktop in a restaurnat kitchen,
>>>>>> I've never.
>>>>>>
>>>>> We all believe you've been in every restaurant kitchen.
>>>>> However, on this point I will agree with you. They don't use
>>>>> glass top stoves in restaurants.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for moving heavy pots and pans around on a stove... yes, I
>>>>> do that. Got some heavy cookware, too. I take things off the
>>>>> heat, put them on another burner on reduced heat, whatever.
>>>>> It's called "cooking".
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Same here Jill. I have nothing against glass tops for those
>>>> who like them, but my gas oven has solid tops and I can slide
>>>> from burner to burner across them as easily as a glass top, and
>>>> no worry on scratching the cast iron overlays.
>>>>
>>> I have an old electric stove. I don't even think about
>>> "sliding" cookware across the stove top surface. LOL I don't
>>> think I ever have been able to slide pots and pans across a
>>> stove top. Just move the pan/skillet/pot to a different burner.
>>> <shrug> I grew up with electric stoves from childhood. The
>>> ability to slide doesn't make me want a glass top. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> well <shrug> I purchased my own and I like the glass top and
>> can't envision why I would choose more housework keeping an old
>> electric stove going - the world has moved forward, you seem left
>> behind!
>>

> Well <shrug> I am not going to replace a stove that works simply
> because you bought something 11 years ago and love it. Enjoy it,
> but as long as my appliances work I'll continue to use them.
>
> Jill
> ==
>
> I don't care what anybody else uses!!! I like what I have and I
> have no intention of changing it no matter how much they
> complain!!!
>
> What say you???
>
>


I totally agree. You are the mistress of your own kitchen and
naysayers bedamned. :-)

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> . . . used very carefully on an electric, non-induction, glass-top
> cooking surface? Like one of those heavy, two-sided (smooth or grooved)
> griddles made by Lodge. I don't have either, although I may consider
> the griddle as a gift for someone who does use a glass-top stove. Hence
> my question ;D TIA.


Thanks for the feedback, y'all. I never knew that using with a
glass-top cooking surface could be so finicky. Rarely have I ever used
one, so there was quite a lot I learned from this thread. Makes me very
grateful to have a natural gas stove, grin.

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>
> On 4/13/2017 7:26 AM,
wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 23:21:41 -0700, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> news > >>> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >>>> > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> Nancy2 wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
> >>>>> When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they like
> >>>> and prefer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheri
> >>>
> >>> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
> >>>
> >>> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the description
> >>> of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended for use on glass
> >>> stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle mfg's say about using the
> >>> product than decide, what the heck, too bad, so sad if I break the glass
> >>> stove top. <shrug>
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't know. I like gas, so I cook with gas.
> >>
> >> Cheri

> >
> > she seems to have this passion to prove she knows better than us who
> > are using them on glass tops and have done so for 11 years!
> >

> If you're referring to me, I don't have any sort of passion about it one
> way or another. I simply bow to the cast iron griddle mfg's description
> that it is not recommended for use on glass top stoves. Ed posted the link:
>
>
https://www.amazon.com/Chefs-Design-.../dp/B0001VQIG8
>
> Read what it says: "Not suitable for glass/flat top ranges."


READ what it says " The griddle is constructed of heavy, hand-cast
aluminum ."

NOT cast iron. Therefore it's not a warning that cast iron can't be
used on glastop.

" The griddle also has a grooved edge that drains fats away from
meats."

It's designed to be used across two gas burners.

The reason it's unsuitable for a glass or flat top range is that the
grease channel means the bottom isn't flat so won't be in even contact
with the glass.

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> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Nancy2 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show
> > > > recently.
> > >
> > > A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
> > > When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.

> >
> >
> >
> > When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they
> > like and prefer.
> >
> > Cheri

>
> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
>
> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the
> description of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended
> for use on glass stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle
> mfg's say about using the product than decide, what the heck, too
> bad, so sad if I break the glass stove top. <shrug>
>
> Jill


Hi Jill,

I think the problem here may be definition of 'cast iron'. There is
true full on cast iron, and there is stuff with coated botoms and
enameled. (call it thin layer of cast iron samwiched between stuff).

The layered stuff can easily be fine. The full on 'just cast iron' may
be problematic? No direct experience, but its not the total 'no' that
the earliest versions were.

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>
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:13:57 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >> > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Nancy2 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show recently.
> >>>
> >>> A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
> >>> When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they like
> >> and prefer.
> >>
> >> Cheri

> >
> >True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
> >
> >In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the
> >description of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended for
> >use on glass stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle mfg's say
> >about using the product than decide, what the heck, too bad, so sad if I
> >break the glass stove top. <shrug>
> >
> >Jill

>
> they are simply covering their butts against some stupido who will
> bang it down on the top!


It's not cast iron; it's aluminium. It doesn't have a flat base (a
design feature, "grease channels") and that's why it's not suitable for
glasstop

Janet UK
>
> I will say again, 11 years ago when i bought mine all my pots and pans
> continued in use, gthat inclluded many cast iron and le crueset types,
> some copper pans etc. Nothing has happeened to the pans or the glass
> top.
>
> the surface heats fast and safely, there is one burner that does it
> twice as fast, I can also switch 'a bridge' on between front and back
> burner for the griddle, there is also a small burner in the middle
> that will gently warm plates, one of the things that i found
> particularly attractive.
>
> that is fact and experience versus opinion based on manufacturers
> babble.



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> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show
> > > > > recently.
> > > >
> > > > A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
> > > > When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they
> > > like and prefer.
> > >
> > > Cheri

> >
> > True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
> >
> > In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle,


The link which tells you it's ALUMINUM not cast iron.

the
> > description of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended
> > for use on glass stove tops.


Not because of the metal; because of the design of the base.


I'd rather go with what the griddle
> > mfg's say about using the product than decide, what the heck, too
> > bad, so sad if I break the glass stove top. <shrug>
> >
> > Jill

>
> Hi Jill,
>
> I think the problem here may be definition of 'cast iron'. There is
> true full on cast iron, and there is stuff with coated botoms and
> enameled. (call it thin layer of cast iron samwiched between stuff).


you're blowing hot air. Cast iron cookware (enamelled or not) is one
solid CAST metal, not a "thin layer between stuff".

> The layered stuff can easily be fine. The full on 'just cast iron' may
> be problematic? No direct experience,


Obviously. I have. For 15 trouble free years I've used both Le
Creuset and plain black cast iron pans on my glass top. They are heavy
solid cast iron.

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> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
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> wrote in message

>
>>>
>>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to gas until
>>> we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric stoves with the
>>> bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly metal rings on top. The
>>> enamel was far harder to keep clean than a glass top. the first glass
>>> top i bought in the early 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died
>>> and gone to paradise

>>
>>
>>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old electric
>>though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc., really old) I hated
>>that, so I had gas piped to the stove and replaced the electric with a gas
>>stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself, I did prefer ovens with
>>the bare element because they heated faster and also when they did burn
>>out,
>>I could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>
>>Cheri

>
> I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus is
> no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts) last night
> i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when i took them out,
> with the left hand only, they all slid off! So for that rare occasion
> the flat floor to the oven was great




Yes, there are definite pluses in that case, which could happen to me
occasionally as well. Seriously, the new oven with the sealed element seems
to take forever to heat up, but maybe all new ovens do, a good 15 to 20
minutes to reach 400, but I have gotten used to turning it on well in
advance now.

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> On Thu 13 Apr 2017 05:50:25p, Cheri told us...
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to
>>>>> gas until we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric
>>>>> stoves with the bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly
>>>>> metal rings on top. The enamel was far harder to keep clean
>>>>> than a glass top. the first glass top i bought in the early
>>>>> 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died and gone to paradise
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old
>>>>electric though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc.,
>>>>really old) I hated that, so I had gas piped to the stove and
>>>>replaced the electric with a gas stovetop which I have been happy
>>>>with. For myself, I did prefer ovens with the bare element
>>>>because they heated faster and also when they did burn out, I
>>>>could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus
>>> is no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts)
>>> last night i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when
>>> i took them out, with the left hand only, they all slid off! So
>>> for that rare occasion the flat floor to the oven was great

>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, there are definite pluses in that case, which could happen to
>> me occasionally as well. Seriously, the new oven with the sealed
>> element seems to take forever to heat up, but maybe all new ovens
>> do, a good 15 to 20 minutes to reach 400, but I have gotten used
>> to turning it on well in advance now.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>

>
> I also have one of those ovens with the sealed element. Mine has a
> pre-heat button to be pressed before pressing start, and the default
> temperature setting if not manually changed is 350 degrees. In pre-
> heat mode all heating elements (top, bottom, and convection) turn on
> until the target temperature is reached. At 350 degrees it takes
> perhaps 8 minutes. At 425 degreees, which I commonly use, it does
> take a good 15 minutes to reach target. I don't actually think
> that's unacceptable. IIRC, my old exposed element oven probably took
> just as long.


Mine doesn't have the pre-heat button, the last one did. My last oven heated
up within 8-10 minutes, this one takes at least 15, closer to 20. The
instructions on mine actually say that, exposed element heating time versus
sealed element, there is quite a difference even according to GE which they
say is normal. I don't care for that at all, but other than that, I like the
oven.

Cheri

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>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > Nancy2 wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show
>> > > > recently.
>> > >
>> > > A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot elements.
>> > > When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think juveniles.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they
>> > like and prefer.
>> >
>> > Cheri

>>
>> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
>>
>> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the
>> description of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended
>> for use on glass stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle
>> mfg's say about using the product than decide, what the heck, too
>> bad, so sad if I break the glass stove top. <shrug>
>>
>> Jill

>
>Hi Jill,
>
>I think the problem here may be definition of 'cast iron'. There is
>true full on cast iron, and there is stuff with coated botoms and
>enameled. (call it thin layer of cast iron samwiched between stuff).
>
>The layered stuff can easily be fine. The full on 'just cast iron' may
>be problematic? No direct experience, but its not the total 'no' that
>the earliest versions were.


You might have play cast iron but i specified cast iron proper and le
crueset.


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> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
> wrote in message

>>
>>>>
>>>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to gas until
>>>> we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric stoves with the
>>>> bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly metal rings on top. The
>>>> enamel was far harder to keep clean than a glass top. the first glass
>>>> top i bought in the early 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died
>>>> and gone to paradise
>>>
>>>
>>>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old electric
>>>though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc., really old) I hated
>>>that, so I had gas piped to the stove and replaced the electric with a gas
>>>stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself, I did prefer ovens with
>>>the bare element because they heated faster and also when they did burn
>>>out,
>>>I could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>>
>>>Cheri

>>
>> I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus is
>> no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts) last night
>> i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when i took them out,
>> with the left hand only, they all slid off! So for that rare occasion
>> the flat floor to the oven was great

>
>
>
>Yes, there are definite pluses in that case, which could happen to me
>occasionally as well. Seriously, the new oven with the sealed element seems
>to take forever to heat up, but maybe all new ovens do, a good 15 to 20
>minutes to reach 400, but I have gotten used to turning it on well in
>advance now.
>
>Cheri


i was using 400 for the calamari and i would estimate tops 5 mins to
heat up. While i waited i tore off some parchment paper for the pan,
put calamari on top, set out plate to warm and a fork. by then it was
good to go. mine is 11 years old now, might be good to check yours
out, but otoh if you're used to it, it's not really a national
emergency
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>On Thu 13 Apr 2017 05:50:25p, Cheri told us...
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to
>>>>> gas until we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric
>>>>> stoves with the bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly
>>>>> metal rings on top. The enamel was far harder to keep clean
>>>>> than a glass top. the first glass top i bought in the early
>>>>> 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died and gone to paradise
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old
>>>>electric though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc.,
>>>>really old) I hated that, so I had gas piped to the stove and
>>>>replaced the electric with a gas stovetop which I have been happy
>>>>with. For myself, I did prefer ovens with the bare element
>>>>because they heated faster and also when they did burn out, I
>>>>could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus
>>> is no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts)
>>> last night i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when
>>> i took them out, with the left hand only, they all slid off! So
>>> for that rare occasion the flat floor to the oven was great

>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, there are definite pluses in that case, which could happen to
>> me occasionally as well. Seriously, the new oven with the sealed
>> element seems to take forever to heat up, but maybe all new ovens
>> do, a good 15 to 20 minutes to reach 400, but I have gotten used
>> to turning it on well in advance now.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>

>
>I also have one of those ovens with the sealed element. Mine has a
>pre-heat button to be pressed before pressing start, and the default
>temperature setting if not manually changed is 350 degrees. In pre-
>heat mode all heating elements (top, bottom, and convection) turn on
>until the target temperature is reached. At 350 degrees it takes
>perhaps 8 minutes. At 425 degreees, which I commonly use, it does
>take a good 15 minutes to reach target. I don't actually think
>that's unacceptable. IIRC, my old exposed element oven probably took
>just as long.


next time i turn mine on i must look to see if the top element heats
as well, sounds likely.
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> . . . used very carefully on an electric, non-induction, glass-top
> cooking surface? Like one of those heavy, two-sided (smooth or grooved)
> griddles made by Lodge.


Yes, of course. That's why many modern electric cooktops (including
induction cooktops) have two smaller burner elements that can be
"joined" and controlled together specifically for that purpose.

I've had one of each -- regular electric and induction -- and used
two-burner griddles regularly, with no problems whatsoever.

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>I had gas piped to the stove andreplaced the electric with
>a gas stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself,
>I did prefer ovens with the bare element because they
>heated faster and also when they did burn out, I
>could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.


Since you replaced the stove top with gas why not the oven too?
Gas is the less expensive fuel and it's typically the oven that uses
more fuel than cook tops,

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> That's too bad, Cheri, especially not knowing the specs ahead of
> time. I like GE products, but never owned one with the concealed
> element. Does your oven have a full convection feature? Sometimes
> running he convection will help to preheat the oven, but then turn
> off for regular baking. My stove is made by Frigidaire, my first
> glass top and now my current one. Have been very happy with both.



No, it's not convection. My last oven was Frigidaire and did a great job of
self cleaning, heating up etc., but it was old and when it went out the last
time, I decided not to spend for the repairs and buy a new one. I liked some
of the features on the GE better and it was also bigger which I like, but
there are a couple of things that irritate me, including all the beeps for
door open etc. LOL

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> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:50:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to gas until
>>>>> we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric stoves with the
>>>>> bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly metal rings on top. The
>>>>> enamel was far harder to keep clean than a glass top. the first glass
>>>>> top i bought in the early 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died
>>>>> and gone to paradise
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old
>>>>electric
>>>>though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc., really old) I hated
>>>>that, so I had gas piped to the stove and replaced the electric with a
>>>>gas
>>>>stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself, I did prefer ovens
>>>>with
>>>>the bare element because they heated faster and also when they did burn
>>>>out,
>>>>I could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>> I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus is
>>> no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts) last night
>>> i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when i took them out,
>>> with the left hand only, they all slid off! So for that rare occasion
>>> the flat floor to the oven was great

>>
>>
>>
>>Yes, there are definite pluses in that case, which could happen to me
>>occasionally as well. Seriously, the new oven with the sealed element
>>seems
>>to take forever to heat up, but maybe all new ovens do, a good 15 to 20
>>minutes to reach 400, but I have gotten used to turning it on well in
>>advance now.
>>
>>Cheri

>
> i was using 400 for the calamari and i would estimate tops 5 mins to
> heat up. While i waited i tore off some parchment paper for the pan,
> put calamari on top, set out plate to warm and a fork. by then it was
> good to go. mine is 11 years old now, might be good to check yours
> out, but otoh if you're used to it, it's not really a national
> emergency



The manual says the wait time of 15-20 minutes is normal with the sealed
element, and also 1 to 1-1/2 hours before cooling fan shuts off, which I
find excessive, but oh well.

Cheri

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> Cheri wrote:
>>
>>I had gas piped to the stove andreplaced the electric with
>>a gas stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself,
>>I did prefer ovens with the bare element because they
>>heated faster and also when they did burn out, I
>>could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.

>
> Since you replaced the stove top with gas why not the oven too?
> Gas is the less expensive fuel and it's typically the oven that uses
> more fuel than cook tops,
>



Because I like an electric oven and a gas stovetop. I have had gas ovens in
the old days, and I know they are very much improved these days, no pilot
etc., but electric oven works for me so no reason to change.

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>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>I had gas piped to the stove andreplaced the electric with
>>>a gas stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself,
>>>I did prefer ovens with the bare element because they
>>>heated faster and also when they did burn out, I
>>>could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.

>>
>> Since you replaced the stove top with gas why not the oven too?
>> Gas is the less expensive fuel and it's typically the oven that uses
>> more fuel than cook tops,

>
>Because I like an electric oven and a gas stovetop. I have had gas ovens in
>the old days, and I know they are very much improved these days, no pilot
>etc., but electric oven works for me so no reason to change.
>
>Cheri


Are you saying you still have your electric stove just for the oven...
if so I would have gotten a gas stove. It's been a very long time
since gas stoves had pilot lights. Having two separate appliances
makes no sense to me... what's there to like better about an electric
oven, unless you like higher electric bills.
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> wrote in message
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>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>I had gas piped to the stove andreplaced the electric with
>>>a gas stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself,
>>>I did prefer ovens with the bare element because they
>>>heated faster and also when they did burn out, I
>>>could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.

>>
>> Since you replaced the stove top with gas why not the oven too?
>> Gas is the less expensive fuel and it's typically the oven that uses
>> more fuel than cook tops,

>
>Because I like an electric oven and a gas stovetop. I have had gas ovens in
>the old days, and I know they are very much improved these days, no pilot
>etc., but electric oven works for me so no reason to change.
>
>Cheri


Are you saying you still have your electric stove just for the oven...
if so I would have gotten a gas stove. It's been a very long time
since gas stoves had pilot lights. Having two separate appliances
makes no sense to me... what's there to like better about an electric
oven, unless you like higher electric bills.

===

Why? I have a gas hob and two wall ovens. It is what suits me.



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> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:50:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:33:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i would like gas too, but not available here. I was used to gas until
>>>>>> we came here and I had to have one of thoose electric stoves with the
>>>>>> bare element in the bottom of the oven, ugly metal rings on top. The
>>>>>> enamel was far harder to keep clean than a glass top. the first glass
>>>>>> top i bought in the early 80s, with self clean oven, felt i had died
>>>>>> and gone to paradise
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I agree about the cleaning of electric (I'm talking about the old
>>>>>electric
>>>>>though with the pull out elements, metal rings etc., really old) I hated
>>>>>that, so I had gas piped to the stove and replaced the electric with a
>>>>>gas
>>>>>stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself, I did prefer ovens
>>>>>with
>>>>>the bare element because they heated faster and also when they did burn
>>>>>out,
>>>>>I could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheri
>>>>
>>>> I found after i had it the warm up time is imperceptible big plus is
>>>> no more burned oven cloths (i never seem to use the mitts) last night
>>>> i decided to heat up some frozen squid rings and when i took them out,
>>>> with the left hand only, they all slid off! So for that rare occasion
>>>> the flat floor to the oven was great
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, there are definite pluses in that case, which could happen to me
>>>occasionally as well. Seriously, the new oven with the sealed element
>>>seems
>>>to take forever to heat up, but maybe all new ovens do, a good 15 to 20
>>>minutes to reach 400, but I have gotten used to turning it on well in
>>>advance now.
>>>
>>>Cheri

>>
>> i was using 400 for the calamari and i would estimate tops 5 mins to
>> heat up. While i waited i tore off some parchment paper for the pan,
>> put calamari on top, set out plate to warm and a fork. by then it was
>> good to go. mine is 11 years old now, might be good to check yours
>> out, but otoh if you're used to it, it's not really a national
>> emergency

>
>
>The manual says the wait time of 15-20 minutes is normal with the sealed
>element, and also 1 to 1-1/2 hours before cooling fan shuts off, which I
>find excessive, but oh well.
>
>Cheri
>
>Cheri


must be very different, mine is a whirlpool and the fan (which is for
convection) does not come on.
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> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 19:16:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
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> > jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >> > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > > Nancy2 wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show
> >> > > > recently.
> >> > >
> >> > > A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot

> elements. >> > > When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think
> juveniles. >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they
> >> > like and prefer.
> >> >
> >> > Cheri
> >>
> >> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
> >>
> >> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the
> >> description of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended
> >> for use on glass stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle
> >> mfg's say about using the product than decide, what the heck, too
> >> bad, so sad if I break the glass stove top. <shrug>
> >>
> >> Jill

> >
> > Hi Jill,
> >
> > I think the problem here may be definition of 'cast iron'. There is
> > true full on cast iron, and there is stuff with coated botoms and
> > enameled. (call it thin layer of cast iron samwiched between
> > stuff).
> >
> > The layered stuff can easily be fine. The full on 'just cast iron'
> > may be problematic? No direct experience, but its not the total
> > 'no' that the earliest versions were.

>
> You might have play cast iron but i specified cast iron proper and le
> crueset.


I do not have play cast iron, but then I have a gas stove.

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>On 4/14/2017 2:37 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:33:00 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> Cheri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I had gas piped to the stove andreplaced the electric with
>>>>> a gas stovetop which I have been happy with. For myself,
>>>>> I did prefer ovens with the bare element because they
>>>>> heated faster and also when they did burn out, I
>>>>> could replace it myself. In the new one, no way.
>>>>
>>>> Since you replaced the stove top with gas why not the oven too?
>>>> Gas is the less expensive fuel and it's typically the oven that uses
>>>> more fuel than cook tops,
>>>
>>> Because I like an electric oven and a gas stovetop. I have had gas ovens in
>>> the old days, and I know they are very much improved these days, no pilot
>>> etc., but electric oven works for me so no reason to change.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> Are you saying you still have your electric stove just for the oven...
>> if so I would have gotten a gas stove. It's been a very long time
>> since gas stoves had pilot lights. Having two separate appliances
>> makes no sense to me... what's there to like better about an electric
>> oven, unless you like higher electric bills.
>>

>I don't think that's what she said at all. She has a gas cooktop and an
>*electric* oven.
>
>Jill


She originally said she had an all electric stove, then when gas was
available got the gas cooktop, I assume a countertop cooktop... so she
must still have the electric stove but isn't using the electric top
burners. She never said anything about having seperate wall ovens,
she said stove. She really was very unclear, that's why my
questioning. And when I asked what's better about an electric oven
saying that's what I like is a non answer because that's not what's
better about the electric oven. The only real differences between an
electric oven and a gas oven is the fuel and that electric costs more
than gas. If somone is going to be switching to gas cooking the
normal person would buy a whole new gas stove, not go to to the
trouble and expense of buying and installing a gas countertop unit...
that means she gave up that countertop space for no viable reason and
has to look at those unused electric cooktop burners collecting dust
on the old stove. Maybe she installed that new gas cooktop in her
bathroom vanity. LOL
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On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 16:00:48 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

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>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 19:16:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> > jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >> On 4/12/2017 1:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> >> > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> > > Nancy2 wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I saw glass cooktops on a kids' cooking competition show
>> >> > > > recently.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > A safety factor for children, no open flames or red hot

>> elements. >> > > When I see adults cooking on glass tops I think
>> juveniles. >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > When I see them, I think they're cooking with a medium that they
>> >> > like and prefer.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheri
>> >>
>> >> True enough, but is using cast iron on one really a good idea?
>> >>
>> >> In the link provided earlier showing a cast iron griddle, the
>> >> description of the griddle specifically said it was NOT recommended
>> >> for use on glass stove tops. I'd rather go with what the griddle
>> >> mfg's say about using the product than decide, what the heck, too
>> >> bad, so sad if I break the glass stove top. <shrug>
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >
>> > Hi Jill,
>> >
>> > I think the problem here may be definition of 'cast iron'. There is
>> > true full on cast iron, and there is stuff with coated botoms and
>> > enameled. (call it thin layer of cast iron samwiched between
>> > stuff).
>> >
>> > The layered stuff can easily be fine. The full on 'just cast iron'
>> > may be problematic? No direct experience, but its not the total
>> > 'no' that the earliest versions were.

>>
>> You might have play cast iron but i specified cast iron proper and le
>> crueset.

>
>I do not have play cast iron, but then I have a gas stove.


well you were the one warbling on about mock cast iron, not me. I
have a large cast iron pan that was my fathers when he was a young
lad, deadly heavy but perfectly safe and still a good cooking vessel
om a glass top.
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