"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 4/15/2017 10:54 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:04:48 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/13/2017 8:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Hi Jill,
>>>
>>> I think the problem here may be definition of 'cast iron'. There is
>>> true full on cast iron, and there is stuff with coated botoms and
>>> enameled. (call it thin layer of cast iron samwiched between stuff).
>>>
>>> The layered stuff can easily be fine. The full on 'just cast iron' may
>>> be problematic? No direct experience, but its not the total 'no' that
>>> the earliest versions were.
>>
>> I own Lodge cast iron. But my grandmother's cast iron griddle was made
>> in Ohio. It's a Griswold.
>>
>> I do have some ceramic coated cast iron pots and pans. It's not Le
>> Creuset, it's Descoware. Made in Belgium, post WWII. That's where Le
>> Creuset got the orange flame colour... they bought out the Descoware
>> company.
>>
>> I never once said I had a glass top stove. I do think cast iron pots or
>> griddles might damage one. <shrug>
>>
>> Jill
>
> may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
> perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>
You may say it as many times as you want. If it works for you, that's
great. Truly.

Jill

==

I agree absolutely!!



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Gary wrote:
>lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>
>> may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>> perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>
>Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>I do have a question for you....
>
>I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>daughter several months ago.
>
>I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>That's all people had 150 years ago.
>I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>Never had a problem cooking with them.

People began using cast iron cookware because a hundred years ago
that's all there was for such a low price and they were passed down,
copper was too pricey and still is for most people, also requires
care. Nowadays many people still can't bring themselves to spend the
bucks for decent stainless steel or even carbon steel if they need
seasoned pans. I gave away all my cast iron cookware some 40 years
ago. Carbon steel skillets are excellent, and don't cost much, even
the Chinese were smart enough to get rid of cast iron woks and go to
carbon steel. Carbon steel lets one cook plenty hot, are seasoned
just like cast iron and using them won't make you feel like you're at
Gold's Gym.

On 4/15/2017 2:36 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:08:41 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-15 10:54 AM, wrote:
>>
>>>> I never once said I had a glass top stove. I do think cast iron pots or
>>>> griddles might damage one. <shrug>
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>>> perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>>>
>>
>> I have a number of cast iron pans and I had a glass top. The cast iron
>> pans left thick dark rings that were a hell of a job to remove. We went
>> back to conventional burners.
>
> none of that happens to me and this is the second glass top.
>
Second? How often do you have to replace it?

Jill

On 4/15/2017 2:50 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>
> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
> interesting!
>
Don't forget, dsl1 thinks Google will rule the world.

Jill

On 2017-04-15 5:16 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:01:11 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> On 4/15/2017 1:18 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Fri 14 Apr 2017 04:51:48p, Cheri told us...
>>
>>>> just didn't want to bother. On mine, I can't turn off the door
>>>> open beep and it really doesn't give much time before it beeps and
>>>> starts flashing open door. I don't mind the reach temp beep, but I
>>>> got along fine without that too.
>>
>>> That open door beep would seriously bother me! Likewise with
>>> refrigerator and freezer doors. They might make sense if you have
>>> kids of a certain age, but unless I'm senile, I'm going to know when
>>> any of the doors are ajar. If I'm senile, I shouldn't be cooking.
>>
>> We stayed at a place a few weeks ago. At some point there started
>> to be a beep about every minute. You know how it is, stand over
>> here and it sounds like it's over there. And vice versa. Is it
>> the smoke detector? No. Microwave? No.
>>
>> Drove us crazy.
>>
>> Next morning at some point it stopped. Whew. Then it was back.
>> Notified the front desk and got a voice mail during the day that
>> it was fixed. Thank you.
>>
>> Later ... beep. Are you kidding me with this beep? Then I said
>> The dishwasher! I put something in the dishwasher. So if you
>> don't push the door all the way closed, it beeps. Grrr.
>>
>> nancy
>
> A couple weeks ago I was home alone for two days. On teh second night
> I just got into bed and I hear a cricket start chirping, okay, quite
> common here and wouldn't go long before one of the cats gets it, but
> this time the cats weren't interested. An hour passed and and still
> it was chirping so I got a flashlight to look around, seemed to be
> from teh basbord heating on the wall behind the big TV. I looked and
> looked and saw nothing so I decidedto get a can of bug spray and
> carefull pray into the baseboard heater. I got back into bed and
> waited but it just kept chirping and finally I fell asleep. In the
> morning I looked more carefully and there it was, the little light on
> the battery back-up was blinking and that's when I realized the
> battery was dying so I unplugged it and no more chirping. I plugged
> the TV directly into the outlet. Those were the most realistic
> cricket chirps ever, sure fooled me, I even sprayed with bug killer.
> When I called APC to order a new battery I told them to come up with a
> different sound. I had that unit seven years, now they rather send a
> whole new updated unit instead of just the battery.... all I had to do
> was send the old unit back and pay $50... a new no-name battery at
> Amazon was more than $30 and only a 1 year warranty. I got a whole
> new unit with their own new battery, it arrived two days later and the
> unit is slightly smaller, has more features, and is warranteed for
> five years. I'll never forget that cricket. I should have realized
> when the cats ignored it, ordinarily they would be vigilent all night
> until they got it.



My father in law was in his 90s before he had a cricket problem like that.

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:45:18 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-04-15 5:16 PM, wrote:

>> A couple weeks ago I was home alone for two days. On teh second night
>> I just got into bed and I hear a cricket start chirping, okay, quite
>> common here and wouldn't go long before one of the cats gets it, but
>> this time the cats weren't interested. An hour passed and and still
>> it was chirping so I got a flashlight to look around, seemed to be
>> from teh basbord heating on the wall behind the big TV. I looked and
>> looked and saw nothing so I decidedto get a can of bug spray and
>> carefull pray into the baseboard heater. I got back into bed and
>> waited but it just kept chirping and finally I fell asleep. In the
>> morning I looked more carefully and there it was, the little light on
>> the battery back-up was blinking and that's when I realized the
>> battery was dying so I unplugged it and no more chirping. I plugged
>> the TV directly into the outlet. Those were the most realistic
>> cricket chirps ever, sure fooled me, I even sprayed with bug killer.
>> When I called APC to order a new battery I told them to come up with a
>> different sound. I had that unit seven years, now they rather send a
>> whole new updated unit instead of just the battery.... all I had to do
>> was send the old unit back and pay $50... a new no-name battery at
>> Amazon was more than $30 and only a 1 year warranty. I got a whole
>> new unit with their own new battery, it arrived two days later and the
>> unit is slightly smaller, has more features, and is warranteed for
>> five years. I'll never forget that cricket. I should have realized
>> when the cats ignored it, ordinarily they would be vigilent all night
>> until they got it.
>
>My father in law was in his 90s before he had a cricket problem like that.

I hear that copious amounts of vodka accelerate these processes.

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:03:04 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 4/15/2017 2:36 PM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:08:41 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-04-15 10:54 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I never once said I had a glass top stove. I do think cast iron pots or
>>>>> griddles might damage one. <shrug>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>>>> perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have a number of cast iron pans and I had a glass top. The cast iron
>>> pans left thick dark rings that were a hell of a job to remove. We went
>>> back to conventional burners.
>>
>> none of that happens to me and this is the second glass top.
>>
>Second? How often do you have to replace it?
>
>Jill

I replaced the glass top stove when I bought this condo = the first
one went with the sale of the house as surprise, surprise, the
purchasers wanted it.

On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 5:48:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
> >> > perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
> >>
> >>
> >> Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
> >> I do have a question for you....
> >>
> >> I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
> >> It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
> >> I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
> >> the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
> >> daughter several months ago.
> >>
> >> I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
> >> That's all people had 150 years ago.
> >> I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
> >> Never had a problem cooking with them.
> >
> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>
> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
> interesting!

I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.

As far as you requesting that I change the way I post so you can get your precious line wrapping - that's pure vanity on your part. You could pretty much solve all your problems by simply switching to Google Groups. That Agent client program reminds me of the bad old days of computing. We live in the new world and I shall not desperately cling to the past.

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>>
>> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
>> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>> interesting!
>
>I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.

No, it doesn't. Your posts look like crap.

On 4/14/2017 8:56 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 17:07:30 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> No, the gas stovetop replaced the electric stovetop in the stovetop cutout
>> that is above the pull out pots and pans cupboards and the wall oven is an
>> electric oven installed in a larger cutout than the original cutout so the
>> oven could be larger than the old oven. Why? Because I like it that way! I
>> hope that makes it clear enough for you. LOL and EOD
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Now I know never to reply to your explanations as they make no sense
> and you are unapreciative of any help,
>
She didn't ask you for help. She likes her electric oven. She got a
gas stovetop but kept the electric oven. What's the big deal?

Jill

On 4/15/2017 7:51 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:03:04 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/15/2017 2:36 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:08:41 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-04-15 10:54 AM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I never once said I had a glass top stove. I do think cast iron pots or
>>>>>> griddles might damage one. <shrug>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>>>>> perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a number of cast iron pans and I had a glass top. The cast iron
>>>> pans left thick dark rings that were a hell of a job to remove. We went
>>>> back to conventional burners.
>>>
>>> none of that happens to me and this is the second glass top.
>>>
>> Second? How often do you have to replace it?
>>
>> Jill
>
> I replaced the glass top stove when I bought this condo = the first
> one went with the sale of the house as surprise, surprise, the
> purchasers wanted it.
>
Okay... the post made it sound like you'd replaced the one you currently
have twice.

Jill

wrote in message ...

Gary wrote:
>lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>
>> may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>> perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>
>Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>I do have a question for you....
>
>I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>daughter several months ago.
>
>I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>That's all people had 150 years ago.
>I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>Never had a problem cooking with them.

People began using cast iron cookware because a hundred years ago
that's all there was for such a low price and they were passed down,
copper was too pricey and still is for most people, also requires
care. Nowadays many people still can't bring themselves to spend the
bucks for decent stainless steel or even carbon steel if they need
seasoned pans. I gave away all my cast iron cookware some 40 years
ago. Carbon steel skillets are excellent, and don't cost much, even
the Chinese were smart enough to get rid of cast iron woks and go to
carbon steel. Carbon steel lets one cook plenty hot, are seasoned
just like cast iron and using them won't make you feel like you're at
Gold's Gym.

==

My favourite pans are made by Woll. They are like cast iron but they are
not) Hmm someone else here uses them and can probably tell you more about
them. I just know they are my favourite and I've had them approx 20 years
if memory serves. I have a variety of other pans which I love too, but
they are my favourite.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 5:48:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>> >> > perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>> >> I do have a question for you....
>> >>
>> >> I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>> >> It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>> >> I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>> >> the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>> >> daughter several months ago.
>> >>
>> >> I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>> >> That's all people had 150 years ago.
>> >> I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>> >> Never had a problem cooking with them.
>> >
>> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>>
>> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
>> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>> interesting!
>
>I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>
>As far as you requesting that I change the way I post so you can get your precious line wrapping - that's pure vanity on your part. You could pretty much solve all your problems by simply switching to Google Groups. That Agent client program reminds me of the bad old days of computing. We live in the new world and I shall not desperately cling to the past.

I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.

wrote in message ...

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 5:48:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>> >> > perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>> >> I do have a question for you....
>> >>
>> >> I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>> >> It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>> >> I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>> >> the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>> >> daughter several months ago.
>> >>
>> >> I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>> >> That's all people had 150 years ago.
>> >> I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>> >> Never had a problem cooking with them.
>> >
>> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client
>> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to fry
>> >up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken frying
>> >(steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>>
>> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
>> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>> interesting!
>
>I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these days
>because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using an NNTP
>app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>
>As far as you requesting that I change the way I post so you can get your
>precious line wrapping - that's pure vanity on your part. You could pretty
>much solve all your problems by simply switching to Google Groups. That
>Agent client program reminds me of the bad old days of computing. We live
>in the new world and I shall not desperately cling to the past.

I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.

==

Yes he is! ;-) He investigates all the modern stuff and I like it)

Please don't be so mean



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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
> >>
> >> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
> >> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
> >> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
> >> interesting!
> >
> >I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>
> No, it doesn't. Your posts look like crap.

His posts look like crap, and I use Google Groups.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client
> >> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to
> >> >fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken
> >> >frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
> >>
> >> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
> >> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
> >> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
> >> interesting!
> >
> >I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
> >days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using
> >an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>
> No, it doesn't. Your posts look like crap.

His posts look like crap, and I use Google Groups.

Cindy Hamilton

==

<g> So do a lot (probably mine too) but i am more interested in content.



--
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 12:40:49 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 5:48:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>>> >> > perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>>> >> I do have a question for you....
>>> >>
>>> >> I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>>> >> It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>>> >> I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>>> >> the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>>> >> daughter several months ago.
>>> >>
>>> >> I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>>> >> That's all people had 150 years ago.
>>> >> I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>>> >> Never had a problem cooking with them.
>>> >
>>> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client
>>> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to fry
>>> >up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken frying
>>> >(steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>>>
>>> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
>>> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>>> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>>> interesting!
>>
>>I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these days
>>because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using an NNTP
>>app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>
>>As far as you requesting that I change the way I post so you can get your
>>precious line wrapping - that's pure vanity on your part. You could pretty
>>much solve all your problems by simply switching to Google Groups. That
>>Agent client program reminds me of the bad old days of computing. We live
>>in the new world and I shall not desperately cling to the past.
>
>I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
>you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.
>
>==
>
>Yes he is! ;-) He investigates all the modern stuff and I like it)
>
>Please don't be so mean

You should tell him that, he tossed a meaningless, uncalled for insult
garys way. its easter sunday,what was the famous biblical ref to a
mote in the eye? thats a good one for dsi !

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 13:33:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>
>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client
>> >> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to
>> >> >fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken
>> >> >frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>> >>
>> >> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
>> >> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>> >> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>> >> interesting!
>> >
>> >I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>> >days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using
>> >an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>
>> No, it doesn't. Your posts look like crap.
>
>His posts look like crap, and I use Google Groups.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
>
>==
>
><g> So do a lot (probably mine too) but i am more interested in content.

however, yours are line wrapped, it's a very fundamental thing,
courteous even.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> His posts look like crap, and I use Google Groups.

I use the old Netscape newsreader and it let's me
do line-wrap with both outgoing and incoming messages.
I never see his long line problem.

On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 11:48:39 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
> >
> > may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
> > perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>
>
> Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
> I do have a question for you....
>
> I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
> It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
> I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
> the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
> daughter several months ago.
>
> I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
> That's all people had 150 years ago.
> I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
> Never had a problem cooking with them.

My pots are tri-ply stainless (stainless/aluminum/stainless).
For braising, I find the evenness of the heat to be rather
poor. Cast iron would be better, but I get around it by
doing all of my braising in the oven.

I recently tried a flatbread (naan) recipe that wanted me
to cook the bread in a cast-iron skillet. They suggested
nonstick aluminum as an alternative. I was too lazy to
get my cast iron out, and I was pretty disappointed with
the results. I'm definitely trying the cast iron next
time.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 11:48:39 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>> > perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>>
>>
>> Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>> I do have a question for you....
>>
>> I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>> It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>> I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>> the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>> daughter several months ago.
>>
>> I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>> That's all people had 150 years ago.
>> I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>> Never had a problem cooking with them.
>
>My pots are tri-ply stainless (stainless/aluminum/stainless).
>For braising, I find the evenness of the heat to be rather
>poor. Cast iron would be better, but I get around it by
>doing all of my braising in the oven.
>
>I recently tried a flatbread (naan) recipe that wanted me
>to cook the bread in a cast-iron skillet. They suggested
>nonstick aluminum as an alternative. I was too lazy to
>get my cast iron out, and I was pretty disappointed with
>the results. I'm definitely trying the cast iron next
>time.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

ciron is tried,tested and true over several centuries now, that many
people can't all be wrong. Mine are all so seasoned they are every
bit as non stick as the non stick pans but far more durable and better
cookers.

wrote in message news
On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 13:33:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>
>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10,
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client
>> >> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to
>> >> >fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken
>> >> >frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>> >>
>> >> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
>> >> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>> >> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>> >> interesting!
>> >
>> >I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>> >days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using
>> >an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>
>> No, it doesn't. Your posts look like crap.
>
>His posts look like crap, and I use Google Groups.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
>
>==
>
><g> So do a lot (probably mine too) but i am more interested in content.

however, yours are line wrapped, it's a very fundamental thing,
courteous even.

==

But my prog doesn't have chevrons and I get complained about for that which
is why I sympathise!

As I said, I am more interested in the content.

--
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wrote in message ...

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 12:40:49 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 5:48:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both
>>> >> > are
>>> >> > perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>>> >> I do have a question for you....
>>> >>
>>> >> I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>>> >> It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>>> >> I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>>> >> the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>>> >> daughter several months ago.
>>> >>
>>> >> I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>>> >> That's all people had 150 years ago.
>>> >> I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>>> >> Never had a problem cooking with them.
>>> >
>>> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client
>>> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to fry
>>> >up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken frying
>>> >(steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>>>
>>> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
>>> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>>> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>>> interesting!
>>
>>I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>>days
>>because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using an NNTP
>>app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>
>>As far as you requesting that I change the way I post so you can get your
>>precious line wrapping - that's pure vanity on your part. You could pretty
>>much solve all your problems by simply switching to Google Groups. That
>>Agent client program reminds me of the bad old days of computing. We live
>>in the new world and I shall not desperately cling to the past.
>
>I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
>you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.
>
>==
>
>Yes he is! ;-) He investigates all the modern stuff and I like it)
>
>Please don't be so mean

You should tell him that, he tossed a meaningless, uncalled for insult
garys way. its easter sunday,what was the famous biblical ref to a
mote in the eye? thats a good one for dsi !

===

Why are you fighting Gary's battles? Believe me, he is more than capable of
fighting his own. Are you sure it wasn't just an excuse?

You are doing a lot of this just lately.

As for Mr D He will react but from what I can see, he loves to talk about
cooking and futuristics.

Anyway, it isn't my business and if you keep on with this stuff, I won't be
seeing you either.

I just hate it all. I am done with it. I can see my filter getting fuller
if it continues.

Is anybody cooking???

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 2017-04-16, jmcquown > wrote:

> She got a gas stovetop but kept the electric oven. What's the big
> deal?

I don't know if this is indicative of ALL combos, like above, but I
measured both my cheapo rental all-electric stove to my daughter's
cheapo rental all-gas stove with a Fluke thermal couple (TC) meter.

The cheapo electric oven would show as much as a 50F degree swing
betweent off and on. My dauhter's cheapo rental gas oven only showed
a 5-10F swing between off/on.

My preference: Electric stove-top, gas oven. I like electric hobs.
They can achieve a lower temp than gas hobs (IME).

nb

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:55:43 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>wrote in message news >
>On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 13:33:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>>
>>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10,
>>> >wrote:
>>> >> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client
>>> >> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to
>>> >> >fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken
>>> >> >frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>>> >>
>>> >> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
>>> >> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>>> >> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>>> >> interesting!
>>> >
>>> >I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>>> >days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using
>>> >an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't. Your posts look like crap.
>>
>>His posts look like crap, and I use Google Groups.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>==
>>
>><g> So do a lot (probably mine too) but i am more interested in content.
>
>however, yours are line wrapped, it's a very fundamental thing,
>courteous even.
>
>==
>
>But my prog doesn't have chevrons and I get complained about for that which
>is why I sympathise!
>
>As I said, I am more interested in the content.

'no chevrons is minor compared to wrapping. when you look at his
posts don't they go off the right hand side of your 'page'? With
Agent which I use it is easy to press a key to do the wrapping, for
all he considers agent so backward!

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:58:58 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>wrote in message ...
>
>On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 12:40:49 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>wrote in message ...
>>
>>On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 5:48:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both
>>>> >> > are
>>>> >> > perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>>>> >> I do have a question for you....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>>>> >> It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>>>> >> I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>>>> >> the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>>>> >> daughter several months ago.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>>>> >> That's all people had 150 years ago.
>>>> >> I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>>>> >> Never had a problem cooking with them.
>>>> >
>>>> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows client
>>>> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to fry
>>>> >up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken frying
>>>> >(steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a steak.
>>>>
>>>> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale patient
>>>> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>>>> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>>>> interesting!
>>>
>>>I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>>>days
>>>because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using an NNTP
>>>app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>>
>>>As far as you requesting that I change the way I post so you can get your
>>>precious line wrapping - that's pure vanity on your part. You could pretty
>>>much solve all your problems by simply switching to Google Groups. That
>>>Agent client program reminds me of the bad old days of computing. We live
>>>in the new world and I shall not desperately cling to the past.
>>
>>I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
>>you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.
>>
>>==
>>
>>Yes he is! ;-) He investigates all the modern stuff and I like it)
>>
>>Please don't be so mean
>
>You should tell him that, he tossed a meaningless, uncalled for insult
>garys way. its easter sunday,what was the famous biblical ref to a
>mote in the eye? thats a good one for dsi !
>
>===
>
>Why are you fighting Gary's battles? Believe me, he is more than capable of
>fighting his own. Are you sure it wasn't just an excuse?
>
>You are doing a lot of this just lately.
>
>As for Mr D He will react but from what I can see, he loves to talk about
>cooking and futuristics.
>
>Anyway, it isn't my business and if you keep on with this stuff, I won't be
>seeing you either.
>
>I just hate it all. I am done with it. I can see my filter getting fuller
>if it continues.
>
>Is anybody cooking???

well i;m not up for taking the blame for someone who got it started!!!

I am not cooking today = great grandchildren coming to visit shortly
then I am going to my daughters for an easter meal. not too much i
can do about cooking currently, last time with left hand inoperative i
tried cooking something that required a chopped up clove or two of
garlic. Unfortunately I wound up with my lovely super sharp knife
cutting a finger to the bone. bloood all over the cast and the cast
stinking of garlic as well so i;m more cautious this time.

now put me in your filter instead of the culprit, dsi.

wrote in message news
On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:55:43 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>wrote in message news >
>On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 13:33:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>>
>>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10,
>>> >wrote:
>>> >> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows
>>> >> >client
>>> >> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to
>>> >> >fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken
>>> >> >frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a
>>> >> >steak.
>>> >>
>>> >> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale
>>> >> patient
>>> >> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>>> >> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>>> >> interesting!
>>> >
>>> >I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>>> >days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using
>>> >an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't. Your posts look like crap.
>>
>>His posts look like crap, and I use Google Groups.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>==
>>
>><g> So do a lot (probably mine too) but i am more interested in content.
>
>however, yours are line wrapped, it's a very fundamental thing,
>courteous even.
>
>==
>
>But my prog doesn't have chevrons and I get complained about for that which
>is why I sympathise!
>
>As I said, I am more interested in the content.

'no chevrons is minor compared to wrapping. when you look at his
posts don't they go off the right hand side of your 'page'? With
Agent which I use it is easy to press a key to do the wrapping, for
all he considers agent so backward!

===

Sorry, I am out of this, as I said ...

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> Is anybody cooking???

I did most of it yesterday, potato salad, baked beans ready to go, ham ready
to go, and a one layer cherry chocolate chip cake. Happy Easter Ophelia, and
I hope you feel better soon.

Cheri

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:36:12 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>wrote in message news >
>On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:55:43 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>wrote in message news >>
>>On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 13:33:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10,
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows
>>>> >> >client
>>>> >> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to
>>>> >> >fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken
>>>> >> >frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a
>>>> >> >steak.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale
>>>> >> patient
>>>> >> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>>>> >> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>>>> >> interesting!
>>>> >
>>>> >I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>>>> >days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in using
>>>> >an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>>>
>>>> No, it doesn't. Your posts look like crap.
>>>
>>>His posts look like crap, and I use Google Groups.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>><g> So do a lot (probably mine too) but i am more interested in content.
>>
>>however, yours are line wrapped, it's a very fundamental thing,
>>courteous even.
>>
>>==
>>
>>But my prog doesn't have chevrons and I get complained about for that which
>>is why I sympathise!
>>
>>As I said, I am more interested in the content.
>
>'no chevrons is minor compared to wrapping. when you look at his
>posts don't they go off the right hand side of your 'page'? With
>Agent which I use it is easy to press a key to do the wrapping, for
>all he considers agent so backward!
>
>===
>
>Sorry, I am out of this, as I said ...


soooo, do you always defend the offender ??

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> Is anybody cooking???

I did most of it yesterday, potato salad, baked beans ready to go, ham ready
to go, and a one layer cherry chocolate chip cake. Happy Easter Ophelia, and
I hope you feel better soon.

Cheri
==


Thanks you, Cheri Happy Easter to you too That sounds lovely.

Not sure what my personal cook will make but I am sure I will be very happy
and satisfied with it <g>

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Ophelia wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>>Penmart wrote:
>>>lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>>
>>> may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>>> perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>>
>>Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>>I do have a question for you....
>>
>>I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>>It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>>I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>>the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>>daughter several months ago.
>>
>>I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>>That's all people had 150 years ago.
>>I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>>Never had a problem cooking with them.
>
>People began using cast iron cookware because a hundred years ago
>that's all there was for such a low price and they were passed down,
>copper was too pricey and still is for most people, also requires
>care. Nowadays many people still can't bring themselves to spend the
>bucks for decent stainless steel or even carbon steel if they need
>seasoned pans. I gave away all my cast iron cookware some 40 years
>ago. Carbon steel skillets are excellent, and don't cost much, even
>the Chinese were smart enough to get rid of cast iron woks and go to
>carbon steel. Carbon steel lets one cook plenty hot, are seasoned
>just like cast iron and using them won't make you feel like you're at
>Gold's Gym.
>
>==
>
>My favourite pans are made by Woll. They are like cast iron but they are
>not) Hmm someone else here uses them and can probably tell you more about
>them. I just know they are my favourite and I've had them approx 20 years
>if memory serves. I have a variety of other pans which I love too, but
>they are my favourite.

Woll makes aluminum cookware with a kind of nonstick titanium coating.
https://www.amazon.com/Woll-Titanium...=woll+cookware

Piazza cookware is the best I've ever used, unfortunately not easy to
find in the US but being an Italian company you will probably find it
easily in the UK. Years ago Williams Sonoma carried it and at very
good prices but they stopped selling it... I should have bought more
pieces... their Five Star pots and pans are magnificent. Check out
their expansive product catalogue, there's a lot to see, takes a few
minutes to down load:
http://www.piazza.it/

wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>>Penmart wrote:
>>>lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>>
>>> may i sayone more time - i have cast iron and a glass top - both are
>>> perfectly compatible - that's fact!!!!! not what 'i think'
>>
>>Forget the stove vs cast iron for now, my friend.
>>I do have a question for you....
>>
>>I just wonder WHY you still use the cast iron?
>>It's heavy stuff and annoying to use (imo).
>>I'm a young enough strong guy and I've always hated
>>the weight of the pans. I gave all of mine to my
>>daughter several months ago.
>>
>>I cast off my cast iron pans. Good riddance.
>>That's all people had 150 years ago.
>>I do fine with my lightweight stainless steel pans now.
>>Never had a problem cooking with them.
>
>People began using cast iron cookware because a hundred years ago
>that's all there was for such a low price and they were passed down,
>copper was too pricey and still is for most people, also requires
>care. Nowadays many people still can't bring themselves to spend the
>bucks for decent stainless steel or even carbon steel if they need
>seasoned pans. I gave away all my cast iron cookware some 40 years
>ago. Carbon steel skillets are excellent, and don't cost much, even
>the Chinese were smart enough to get rid of cast iron woks and go to
>carbon steel. Carbon steel lets one cook plenty hot, are seasoned
>just like cast iron and using them won't make you feel like you're at
>Gold's Gym.
>
>==
>
>My favourite pans are made by Woll. They are like cast iron but they are
>not) Hmm someone else here uses them and can probably tell you more
>about
>them. I just know they are my favourite and I've had them approx 20 years
>if memory serves. I have a variety of other pans which I love too, but
>they are my favourite.

Woll makes aluminum cookware with a kind of nonstick titanium coating.
https://www.amazon.com/Woll-Titanium...=woll+cookware

Thanks, that is like one I have. I do have much
bigger ones too and I love them better then all my other pans)))

Piazza cookware is the best I've ever used, unfortunately not easy to
find in the US but being an Italian company you will probably find it
easily in the UK. Years ago Williams Sonoma carried it and at very
good prices but they stopped selling it... I should have bought more
pieces... their Five Star pots and pans are magnificent. Check out
their expansive product catalogue, there's a lot to see, takes a few
minutes to down load:
http://www.piazza.it/

Not one I have ever heard of. I will have a
look but I doubt I will be buying anything new now)

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On 4/15/2017 1:41 PM, Cheri wrote:
> End of discussion, especially with him on that subject.
>
> Cheri

This is the guy who thinks I should dig up my back yard to bury a huge
propane tank (or just have one sitting behind my bedroom windows - how
trailer park trashy would that be?!) and pay to run gas lines rather
than use my electric stovetop. Sorry, I have no problem using electric.
As long as it works that's really all I care about.

You like your gas cooktop and your electric oven. It works, so what's
the problem? None at all!

Jill

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:36:12 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>wrote in message news >
>On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:55:43 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>wrote in message news >>
>>On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 13:33:14 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:49:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-10,
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:50:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >You should also wonder why people would use an ancient Windows
>>>> >> >client
>>>> >> >program to post to newsgroups. OTOH, I might use a cast iron pan to
>>>> >> >fry up some chicken or sear ahi. The shape is better for chicken
>>>> >> >frying (steeper sides) and it works great for searing ahi or a
>>>> >> >steak.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> coming from a person using goggle! Gary is using a reasonale
>>>> >> patient
>>>> >> spider, aka September programme and I use Agent - now if you used
>>>> >> something that knew how to line wrap correctly - that would be
>>>> >> interesting!
>>>> >
>>>> >I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>>>> >days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in
>>>> >using
>>>> >an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>>>
>>>> No, it doesn't. Your posts look like crap.
>>>
>>>His posts look like crap, and I use Google Groups.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>><g> So do a lot (probably mine too) but i am more interested in content.
>>
>>however, yours are line wrapped, it's a very fundamental thing,
>>courteous even.
>>
>>==
>>
>>But my prog doesn't have chevrons and I get complained about for that
>>which
>>is why I sympathise!
>>
>>As I said, I am more interested in the content.
>
>'no chevrons is minor compared to wrapping. when you look at his
>posts don't they go off the right hand side of your 'page'? With
>Agent which I use it is easy to press a key to do the wrapping, for
>all he considers agent so backward!
>
>===
>
>Sorry, I am out of this, as I said ...


soooo, do you always defend the offender ??

==

You are wasting your time. Why not try and be nice to other posters? It
makes for a much more pleasant experience on line.

At the end of the day, it disappears when you close down



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On 4/16/2017 7:22 AM, wrote in reply to Hawaii Boy
dsl1:

> I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
> you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.

Truly! Google Groups... what a joke. BTW, I did killfile him a long
time ago because hey, something as simple as line wrapping does matter.
That, and I also think rarely makes any sort of relevent post. IOW,
he's not that smart.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 4/16/2017 7:22 AM, wrote in reply to Hawaii Boy
dsl1:

> I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
> you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.

Truly! Google Groups... what a joke. BTW, I did killfile him a long
time ago because hey, something as simple as line wrapping does matter.
That, and I also think rarely makes any sort of relevent post. IOW,
he's not that smart.

Jill

==

Oh come on, Jill, let us have some peace. Let's face it, none of this
affects our daily lives, or shouldn't

Let us have a nice Easter at least? Please?



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On 4/16/2017 7:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> wrote in message ...
>
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>> days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in
>> using an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>
>> As far as you requesting that I change the way I post so you can get
>> your precious line wrapping - that's pure vanity on your part. You
>> could pretty much solve all your problems by simply switching to
>> Google Groups. That Agent client program reminds me of the bad old
>> days of computing. We live in the new world and I shall not
>> desperately cling to the past.
>
> I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
> you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.
>
> ==
>
> Yes he is! ;-) He investigates all the modern stuff and I like it)
>
> Please don't be so mean
>
I didn't see anything mean about it. WHEN he buys all these new
technologies and uses them for years and can *prove* they are better,
greater, whatever... Perhaps I'll buy into his claims.

Google Groups sucks. Google is a good search engine, but personally, I
don't want Google to take over the world. When did this turn into a
discussion about NNTP vs. web technology? I thought we were talking
about griddles and stoves.

I don't want to get my food from a freakin' 3-D printer or a Star Trek
food replicator. dsl1 doesn't seem to cook but he does love to yap (and
yap and yap again) about technology. Sorry, I changed that channel a
long time ago. Thought this was about cast iron griddles, not about
promoting Google.

Hopefully you don't think my reasons for finding dsl1's posts specious
are "mean". They simply don't make any sense, especially not in any
food related context.

Jill

On 4/16/2017 12:27 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 4/16/2017 7:22 AM, wrote in reply to Hawaii Boy
> dsl1:
>
>> I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
>> you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.
>
> Truly! Google Groups... what a joke. BTW, I did killfile him a long
> time ago because hey, something as simple as line wrapping does matter.
> That, and I also think rarely makes any sort of relevent post. IOW,
> he's not that smart.
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> Oh come on, Jill, let us have some peace. Let's face it, none of this
> affects our daily lives, or shouldn't
>
> Let us have a nice Easter at least? Please?
>
>
>
Of course! I posted about a nice boiled egg breakfast and my dinner plans.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 4/16/2017 7:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> wrote in message ...
>
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> I have a couple of NTTP server accounts too. I don't use it much these
>> days because I mostly use a Chromebook. There's not much point in
>> using an NNTP app with the Chromebook since Google Groups works so well.
>>
>> As far as you requesting that I change the way I post so you can get
>> your precious line wrapping - that's pure vanity on your part. You
>> could pretty much solve all your problems by simply switching to
>> Google Groups. That Agent client program reminds me of the bad old
>> days of computing. We live in the new world and I shall not
>> desperately cling to the past.
>
> I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
> you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.
>
> ==
>
> Yes he is! ;-) He investigates all the modern stuff and I like it)
>
> Please don't be so mean
>
I didn't see anything mean about it. WHEN he buys all these new
technologies and uses them for years and can *prove* they are better,
greater, whatever... Perhaps I'll buy into his claims.

Google Groups sucks. Google is a good search engine, but personally, I
don't want Google to take over the world. When did this turn into a
discussion about NNTP vs. web technology? I thought we were talking
about griddles and stoves.

I don't want to get my food from a freakin' 3-D printer or a Star Trek
food replicator. dsl1 doesn't seem to cook but he does love to yap (and
yap and yap again) about technology. Sorry, I changed that channel a
long time ago. Thought this was about cast iron griddles, not about
promoting Google.

Hopefully you don't think my reasons for finding dsl1's posts specious
are "mean". They simply don't make any sense, especially not in any
food related context.

Jill

===

Jill, when you close down, how much of it upsets you? You have a good life
and I doubt this bothers you so much when you are not here?

Are you worrying about it all night until you log in again???

I just get so sick of it. I am trying to take each day as it comes.

I have enough problems in my life atm.

Up to you, but I won't be joining in. It is all getting too childish for
me.

I really had thought you were back on board with a friendly approach to
everything.

No matter. Your choice.

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"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 4/16/2017 12:27 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 4/16/2017 7:22 AM, wrote in reply to Hawaii Boy
> dsl1:
>
>> I was not suggesting you change, merely pointing out that you think
>> you are so smart and modern when the reality is you're not.
>
> Truly! Google Groups... what a joke. BTW, I did killfile him a long
> time ago because hey, something as simple as line wrapping does matter.
> That, and I also think rarely makes any sort of relevent post. IOW,
> he's not that smart.
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> Oh come on, Jill, let us have some peace. Let's face it, none of this
> affects our daily lives, or shouldn't
>
> Let us have a nice Easter at least? Please?
>
>
>
Of course! I posted about a nice boiled egg breakfast and my dinner plans.

Jill

==

Cool)

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