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For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food,
mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I always wanted to try it and today I did. I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice place, quiet relaxed dining. This is what I had https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. |
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On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:19:18 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, > mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I > always wanted to try it and today I did. > > I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice > place, quiet relaxed dining. > > This is what I had > https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ > > So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. > Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. > > It looks delicious and was wondering how it tasted. Good thing chicken is plentiful and reasonably priced! |
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On 2017-04-19 7:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, > mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I > always wanted to try it and today I did. > > I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice > place, quiet relaxed dining. > > This is what I had > https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ > > So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. > Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. I don't know what they did to your dish but pheasant tastes NOTHING like chicken! When I lived at home in the UK, pheasant was often on the menu. As a game bird, there were major legal restrictions on hunting it but opposite us lived a guy who loved poaching, usually going out in the small hours. He would hide the birds and his gun at the bottom of our garden and then double back and walk through the village main street to see if the coast was clear. Then he would get his stuff. Mum would often open the door first thing in the morning to find a brace of still-warm pheasants hanging on the door knob. One year they were particularly abundant and we had pheasant for the evening meal or sunday roast at least twice per week. The Alberta Government used to breed them for, inter alia, gun dog trials. One of my technicians bred some sort of retriever and I bought a dozen from him after one trial. We froze them and later gave several successful dinner parties serving up pheasant cooked with apricots and cream as well as other recipes. Graham |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 9:42 PM, wrote: >> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:19:18 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, >>> mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with >>> champagne. I always wanted to try it and today I did. >>> >>> I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a >>> nice place, quiet relaxed dining. >>> >>> This is what I had >>> https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ >>> >>> So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. >>> Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. >>> >>> >> It looks delicious and was wondering how it tasted. Good thing >> chicken is plentiful and reasonably priced! >> > > I've seen it for sale at about $15/pound. It was a good meal, but > would have been the same if they used chicken. Um, maybe they did. I had an uncle with a farm, and a chicken dinner at his house tasted like a different animal. The so-called free-range chickens are indistinguishable from the usual birds. |
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On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 9:19:18 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, > mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I > always wanted to try it and today I did. > > I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice > place, quiet relaxed dining. > > This is what I had > https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ > > So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. > Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. Are restaurants in your area prohibited from selling wild game? If the pheasant was farmed it might taste much more mild than wild pheasant. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 4/19/2017 9:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, > mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I > always wanted to try it and today I did. > > I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice > place, quiet relaxed dining. > > This is what I had > https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ > > So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. > Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. Looks lovely! (You just know they'd charge twice as much for it at the Dataw Club!) I imagine if it's farm raised pheasant it would likely taste a lot like chicken. I'm glad you had a nice, relaxing lunch. ![]() Jill |
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 21:19:14 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, >mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I >always wanted to try it and today I did. > >I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice >place, quiet relaxed dining. > >This is what I had >https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ > >So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. >Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. pheasant, duck, goose, each tastes different to me, but I have only had wild birds. Maybe domesticating them smudges the lines. Janet US |
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On 2017-04-20, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. Hardly! I'm no great hunter. I've only bagged a few pheasant in my lifeteime. I always cook 'em using a braising method, mainly in a brown mushroom sauce. Not surprisingly, wild pheasant is more lean than pen-raised pheasant. Still, I've yet to eat pheasant that tastes --even remotely!-- like chicken. OTOH, with today's bigAg franken-foods, nothing surprises me. 8| nb |
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On 4/20/2017 12:43 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-04-20, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. > > Hardly! > > I'm no great hunter. I've only bagged a few pheasant in my lifeteime. > I always cook 'em using a braising method, mainly in a brown mushroom > sauce. > > Not surprisingly, wild pheasant is more lean than pen-raised pheasant. > Still, I've yet to eat pheasant that tastes --even remotely!-- like > chicken. > > OTOH, with today's bigAg franken-foods, nothing surprises me. 8| > > nb > I'm sure you don't expect a restaurant to have freshly hunted pheasant on the menu. Jill |
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On 4/20/2017 6:29 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> This is what I had >> https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ >> >> So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. >> Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. > > Are restaurants in your area prohibited from selling wild game? If > the pheasant was farmed it might taste much more mild than wild > pheasant. > > Cindy Hamilton > I'd guess farm raised. That would explain the blandness of it. The flavor was very mild. |
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On 2017-04-20, jmcquown > wrote:
> I'm sure you don't expect a restaurant to have freshly hunted pheasant > on the menu. Actually, I've bought/cooked a frozen pheasant a couple times. Agreed. Not as good as "freshly hunted". OTOH, how bad is today's chicken!? I will no longer purchase/eat it, at all. ![]() nb |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, > mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I > always wanted to try it and today I did. > > I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice > place, quiet relaxed dining. > > This is what I had > https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ > > So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. > Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. my dad hunted pheasant and partridge with his mining buddies back in the 70s when we lived in northern MN... nothing elegant about that |
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"notbob" > wrote in message
... > On 2017-04-20, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. > > Hardly! > > I'm no great hunter. I've only bagged a few pheasant in my lifeteime. > I always cook 'em using a braising method, mainly in a brown mushroom > sauce. > > Not surprisingly, wild pheasant is more lean than pen-raised pheasant. > Still, I've yet to eat pheasant that tastes --even remotely!-- like > chicken. > > OTOH, with today's bigAg franken-foods, nothing surprises me. 8| > > nb I've yet to eat a pheasant that I liked, too many as a kid and an adult, but others like it so good for them. Cheri |
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tert in seattle wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, > > mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I > > always wanted to try it and today I did. > > > > I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice > > place, quiet relaxed dining. > > > > This is what I had > > https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ > > > > So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. > > Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. > > my dad hunted pheasant and partridge with his mining buddies back in > the 70s when we lived in northern MN... nothing elegant about that I ran over a pheasant once, there were always running around and often crossing the rural roads... -- Best Greg |
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On 4/20/2017 7:37 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 9:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, >> mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I >> always wanted to try it and today I did. >> >> I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice >> place, quiet relaxed dining. >> >> This is what I had >> https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ >> >> So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. >> Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Save your money and get chicken. > > Looks lovely! (You just know they'd charge twice as much for it at the > Dataw Club!) I imagine if it's farm raised pheasant it would likely > taste a lot like chicken. This is very true. I've had both wild and farm-raised rabbit and duck. The wild varieties taste nothing like the farm-raised kind. Wild has a more gamey taste and also wild has very little fat. Both are good though. |
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In article >, says...
> > For years I've seen where pheasant was considered an elegant food, > mostly for the wealthy. It has been in movies served with champagne. I > always wanted to try it and today I did. > > I took my wife and a friend to lunch at a nearby winery. It is a nice > place, quiet relaxed dining. > > This is what I had > https://nashobawinery.com/lunch/item/pork-2/ > > So after all these years, I finally got my elegant pheasant meal. > Conclusion: Tastes like chicken. Then it probably was chicken. Pheasant doesn't taste like chicken. Janet UK |
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I've eaten ruffed grouse before.
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> wrote: > Rattlesnake tastes like chicken too. More like the taste of a chicken crossed with a frog. One who knows. leo |
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In article >, The
Greatest! > wrote: > The Pheasant Plucking Song The [poem, rhyme, song] misses the point of pheasant plucking. They have to be dunked ungutted in very hot water before the feathers come off, or the skin will invariably tear apart during plucking. Chicken farmers who lop off a occasional chicken head for a meal know all about this. Pheasants are gaudy, leaner, tougher and wilder chickens for the most part. My plucking advice is a invaluable tip for all the future pheasant hunters in the group. Oh, and watch out for biting down on shot. You ought to see the craters in my molars. [Ob:Food] Pork chops, Stouffer's mac and cheese and applesauce for dinner. We eat better sometimes. leo |
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On 4/20/2017 9:22 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, > > wrote: > >> Rattlesnake tastes like chicken too. > > More like the taste of a chicken crossed with a frog. One who knows. > > leo > LOL But if you've got "farmed frogs", they taste like chicken. ![]() Jill |
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On 2017-04-20 7:51 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, The > Greatest! > wrote: > >> The Pheasant Plucking Song > > The [poem, rhyme, song] misses the point of pheasant plucking. They > have to be dunked ungutted in very hot water before the feathers come > off, or the skin will invariably tear apart during plucking. Chicken > farmers who lop off a occasional chicken head for a meal know all about > this. Pheasants are gaudy, leaner, tougher and wilder chickens for the > most part. > My plucking advice is a invaluable tip for all the future pheasant > hunters in the group. Oh, and watch out for biting down on shot. You > ought to see the craters in my molars. > > [Ob:Food] Pork chops, Stouffer's mac and cheese and applesauce for > dinner. We eat better sometimes. > > leo > The easiest and IMO the best way to deal with them is to skin them. That way you don't have to pluck them:-) Graham |
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On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 4:44:01 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> I've eaten ruffed grouse before. What ever you do...do not eat a Spruce Grouse. They ingest spruce needles and their meat is tainted. Even their crop has a green tinge showing through. ==== |
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:19:59 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote: >On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 4:44:01 PM UTC-6, wrote: >> I've eaten ruffed grouse before. > >What ever you do...do not eat a Spruce Grouse. They ingest spruce needles and >their meat is tainted. Even their crop has a green tinge showing through. Smart bird. |
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Spruce goose as the the name of Howard Hugh's huge plane.
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On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 6:19:33 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> Spruce goose as the the name of Howard Hugh's huge plane. With me being part am indian wild turkeys act pretty tame around me, they think I'm just part of the woods. |
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On 2017-04-21, graham > wrote:
> The easiest and IMO the best way to deal with them is to skin them. That > way you don't have to pluck them:-) That is how I always dealt with pheasant. ![]() nb |
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On 2017-04-21 10:18 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-04-21, graham > wrote: > >> The easiest and IMO the best way to deal with them is to skin them. That >> way you don't have to pluck them:-) > > That is how I always dealt with pheasant. ![]() Partridge and grouse are very easy to clean. You stand on the wings and pull up on the legs. The legs, skin and entrails separate from the breast, and then you cut off the wings. It takes only seconds. |
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"notbob" wrote in message ...
On 2017-04-21, graham > wrote: > The easiest and IMO the best way to deal with them is to skin them. That > way you don't have to pluck them:-) That is how I always dealt with pheasant. ![]() nb == I never do it, but my husband skins everything we shoot. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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I'll use a 12 ga 1.25 oz at 1220 with no 6 shot to turkey hunt with, smaller tighter pattern than a 1.25 at 1330. I do have some fed flight control 1.5 no 4 at 1315 tho.
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On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 10:33:08 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> I'll use a 12 ga 1.25 oz at 1220 with no 6 shot to turkey hunt with, smaller tighter pattern than a 1.25 at 1330. I do have some fed flight control 1.5 no 4 at 1315 tho. We don't have wild turkeys as we are too far north. I would probably use No. 4 or even No. 2 for killing power as that is what I use on wild geese. That is using 3" - 12 gauge ammo. |
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I don't think they sell ammo with no 2 shot now, most turkey hunters are seriously over gunned.
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You meant steel shot, I've never used it.
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote: >On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 10:33:08 AM UTC-6, wrote: >> I'll use a 12 ga 1.25 oz at 1220 with no 6 shot to turkey hunt with, smaller tighter pattern than a 1.25 at 1330. I do have some fed flight control 1.5 no 4 at 1315 tho. > >We don't have wild turkeys as we are too far north. I would probably use No. 4 or even No. 2 for killing power as that is what I use on wild geese. That is >using 3" - 12 gauge ammo. My 12 ga. is only for clay pigeons or criminals, never critters. Anyone who thinks murdering wild critters is something to boast about is a sicko COWARD! |
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On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 1:58:55 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT), Roy > > wrote: > > >On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 10:33:08 AM UTC-6, wrote: > >> I'll use a 12 ga 1.25 oz at 1220 with no 6 shot to turkey hunt with, smaller tighter pattern than a 1.25 at 1330. I do have some fed flight control 1.5 no 4 at 1315 tho. > > > >We don't have wild turkeys as we are too far north. I would probably use No. 4 or even No. 2 for killing power as that is what I use on wild geese. That is > >using 3" - 12 gauge ammo. > > My 12 ga. is only for clay pigeons or criminals, never critters. > Anyone who thinks murdering wild critters is something to boast about > is a sicko COWARD! I eat what I shoot...as a rule. I like wild meat. I have shot ducks, geese, sharp-tail grouse, ruffed grouse, pheasant and Hungarian partridge locally. Also pests like @#$% crows, magpies, pigeons, gophers, wascally wabbits and squirrels when they built nests where they shouldn't have. I don't BOAST of my "murdering" although you might think so. Many a rabbit I have killed to feed our barn cats, and they appreciated each and every one of them especially when it was forty below zero. What's the difference between wild and tame animals? They live and breath and die. You eat pork, beef chicken and fish...someone had to "murder" them for your dinner table. ==== |
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But I bet it's steel shot and not lead. I have a 18" barrel pump with low recoil 00 buck in it for bad guys in my house.
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