On 6/2/2017 8:20 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

> I is disappointing to go to the effort to make sure there is
> something for everyone, but to have a grown man pouting about us not
> being able to appease his peculiar tastes is infuriating.
>
If something would be left because he did not eat. you have a solution.
Big Niece would take his share. Life equals out.

On 2017-06-02 10:12 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/2/2017 8:20 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> I is disappointing to go to the effort to make sure there is something
>> for everyone, but to have a grown man pouting about us not being able
>> to appease his peculiar tastes is infuriating.
>>
> If something would be left because he did not eat. you have a solution.
> Big Niece would take his share. Life equals out.

LOL. She would likely wolf done the only think he liked before he even
had a chance to try it. Unfortunately, they are different sides of the
family. I don't care if people don't like something, but I don't have
the patience to try to cater to someone who doesn't like anything, and
then whines and pouts about it. It seems the only thing he actually
likes is pizza, and that is not happening at Christmas.

Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> I can appreciate that most people don't like everything and most can
> describe what it is that they object to. Then there are those picky
> eaters who just don't like something. I have a nephew who doesn't
> like much. It is a pain in the butt to have him come for supper
> because there are so few things he likes and he is so vocal about the
> things he does not want, sort of like you might expect from a four
> year old, except he is 44. He likes pizza, which is a major exception
> from one of his big taboos, which is food that is red. Then there was
> a former co-worker who didn't like much and could only describe his
> dislikes as being yucky. People like that are not entitled to offer
> an opinion.

I once saw a truely rude picky eater. In the building I worked at,
there was a small fast lunch place. No seating (take it back to your
desk), steam table with 1-2 soups, 2-3 mains, a few sides. Varied by
day with specials. Pretty much normal stuff but actually pretty well
made. On Friday, they almost always had a fish dish and on Tuesday,
Nachos!

Now these nachos were served in a single small container with the chips
on the bottom and the sauce on top plus with a small you could add
jarred jalapenos and I think it was onion as a second free option, and
you could add 25cents for a small bit of sour cream. The large came in
a larger container with chips on the bottom, cheese, lettuce, tomatoes,
chili, jalapenos, sour cream, onion and guacamole. (If you didnt want
one item, tell them to omit it and you generally got extra chili to
make up for it unless you asked for something else).

Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She is
told they do not have containers like that but she continues to *whine*
like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the line while
placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She was bound and
determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell with anyone else who
didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end,
she was getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
applause of the rest of us.



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wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 9:13:59 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > I can appreciate that most people don't like everything and most
> > can describe what it is that they object to. Then there are those
> > picky eaters who just don't like something. I have a nephew who
> > doesn't like much. It is a pain in the butt to have him come for
> > supper because there are so few things he likes and he is so vocal
> > about the things he does not want, sort of like you might expect
> > from a four year old, except he is 44. He likes pizza, which is a
> > major exception from one of his big taboos, which is food that is
> > red. Then there was a former co-worker who didn't like much and
> > could only describe his dislikes as being yucky. People like that
> > are not entitled to offer an opinion.
> >
> >
> I wouldn't invite him to supper and if you insist on having him
> at the table tell him to bring his own food. I simply would not
> cater to him and his silly whims.

I wouldn't either. I *do* cater to special diets at dinners, but not
to the extreme.

For example, we have a Moslem neighbor and a Jewish one (yes, they are
both American and get along well) so when they come, if a dish has pork
or bacon fat, they are warned (and would not be many of the dishes that
day unless a big cookout).

Another friend has some nut allergies that can be pretty severe, so no
nuts used that day since I can never remember which ones other than
shes ok with peanuts.

Some are vegetarian so I make sure I have some good mains that are meat
free. Tofu, Banana, chipotle and carrot lumpia seem to work well as a
unique one.

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On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:41:45 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > I can appreciate that most people don't like everything and most can
> > describe what it is that they object to. Then there are those picky
> > eaters who just don't like something. I have a nephew who doesn't
> > like much. It is a pain in the butt to have him come for supper
> > because there are so few things he likes and he is so vocal about the
> > things he does not want, sort of like you might expect from a four
> > year old, except he is 44. He likes pizza, which is a major exception
> > from one of his big taboos, which is food that is red. Then there was
> > a former co-worker who didn't like much and could only describe his
> > dislikes as being yucky. People like that are not entitled to offer
> > an opinion.
>
> I once saw a truely rude picky eater. In the building I worked at,
> there was a small fast lunch place. No seating (take it back to your
> desk), steam table with 1-2 soups, 2-3 mains, a few sides. Varied by
> day with specials. Pretty much normal stuff but actually pretty well
> made. On Friday, they almost always had a fish dish and on Tuesday,
> Nachos!
>
> Now these nachos were served in a single small container with the chips
> on the bottom and the sauce on top plus with a small you could add
> jarred jalapenos and I think it was onion as a second free option, and
> you could add 25cents for a small bit of sour cream. The large came in
> a larger container with chips on the bottom, cheese, lettuce, tomatoes,
> chili, jalapenos, sour cream, onion and guacamole. (If you didnt want
> one item, tell them to omit it and you generally got extra chili to
> make up for it unless you asked for something else).
>
> Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She is
> told they do not have containers like that but she continues to *whine*
> like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the line while
> placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She was bound and
> determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell with anyone else who
> didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end,
> she was getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
> applause of the rest of us.

What a jerk. I don't like different foods to touch, but I don't whine
about it. To me, nachos is kind of like a sandwich, in that the parts
add up to a whole. If I didn't want the components to touch, I wouldn't
order nachos.

I will admit that when I order the lunch special at a Chinese restaurant
and everything comes on one plate, I don't eat the rice that has the
sauce on it. I don't need all of that rice anyway.

Manners maketh man.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2017-06-02 1:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She is
> told they do not have containers like that but she continues to *whine*
> like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the line while
> placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She was bound and
> determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell with anyone else who
> didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end,
> she was getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
> applause of the rest of us.

That's more than picky eating. It is more like a personality disorder. I
have a brother in law who has many quirks. I think he may actually
aspire to being quirky and thinks he is bright enough and important
enough to be entitled to be that way. He has to have his food on a plate
large enough that the various components of the meal do not touch each
other and he eats one thing at a time.

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:23:06 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-06-02 1:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> > wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She is
> > told they do not have containers like that but she continues to *whine*
> > like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the line while
> > placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She was bound and
> > determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell with anyone else who
> > didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end,
> > she was getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
> > applause of the rest of us.
>
> That's more than picky eating. It is more like a personality disorder. I
> have a brother in law who has many quirks. I think he may actually
> aspire to being quirky and thinks he is bright enough and important
> enough to be entitled to be that way. He has to have his food on a plate
> large enough that the various components of the meal do not touch each
> other and he eats one thing at a time.

People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix their foods up or have different foods touching. My son and my friend have this to some degree. I was eating with my OCD friend and I noticed that his plate looked a little odd. I said "say, you're eating your food in sequence. That's rather odd." He says "yup, I can't mix foods up!" Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.

On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 15:49:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:23:06 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-06-02 1:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
>> > wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She is
>> > told they do not have containers like that but she continues to *whine*
>> > like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the line while
>> > placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She was bound and
>> > determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell with anyone else who
>> > didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end,
>> > she was getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
>> > applause of the rest of us.
>>
>> That's more than picky eating. It is more like a personality disorder. I
>> have a brother in law who has many quirks. I think he may actually
>> aspire to being quirky and thinks he is bright enough and important
>> enough to be entitled to be that way. He has to have his food on a plate
>> large enough that the various components of the meal do not touch each
>> other and he eats one thing at a time.
>
>People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix their foods up or have different foods touching. My son and my friend have this to some degree. I was eating with my OCD friend and I noticed that his plate looked a little odd. I said "say, you're eating your food in sequence. That's rather odd." He says "yup, I can't mix foods up!" Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.

Or treated if these things are taking over a person's life.

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 5:49:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix their foods up or have different foods touching. Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.
>
>
But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.

On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 16:13:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 5:49:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix their foods up or have different foods touching. Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.
>>
>>
>But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
>as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
>to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
>of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
>matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.

You think like a reasonable person, they think like a neurotic.

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:13:47 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 5:49:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix their foods up or have different foods touching. Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.
> >
> >
> But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
> as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
> to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
> of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
> matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.

Of course the foods will be touching in their stomach - logic has nothing to do with this. Most people won't "accommodate" i.e., cater to the whims of others. Mostly, they're set in their ways - the same as the people with ASD and OCD.

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 6:29:38 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> My dad's father was worse than that. He liked most any food, but would
> only put one food item on his plate. When he had eaten that he would
> have to have a new clean plate for the next item.
>
>
I sure hope your granddad was doing the dishwashing at his
house.

Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:41:45 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > I can appreciate that most people don't like everything and most
> > > can describe what it is that they object to. Then there are
> > > those picky eaters who just don't like something. I have a nephew
> > > who doesn't like much. It is a pain in the butt to have him come
> > > for supper because there are so few things he likes and he is so
> > > vocal about the things he does not want, sort of like you might
> > > expect from a four year old, except he is 44. He likes pizza,
> > > which is a major exception from one of his big taboos, which is
> > > food that is red. Then there was a former co-worker who didn't
> > > like much and could only describe his dislikes as being yucky.
> > > People like that are not entitled to offer an opinion.
> >
> > I once saw a truely rude picky eater. In the building I worked at,
> > there was a small fast lunch place. No seating (take it back to
> > your desk), steam table with 1-2 soups, 2-3 mains, a few sides.
> > Varied by day with specials. Pretty much normal stuff but actually
> > pretty well made. On Friday, they almost always had a fish dish and
> > on Tuesday, Nachos!
> >
> > Now these nachos were served in a single small container with the
> > chips on the bottom and the sauce on top plus with a small you
> > could add jarred jalapenos and I think it was onion as a second
> > free option, and you could add 25cents for a small bit of sour
> > cream. The large came in a larger container with chips on the
> > bottom, cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, chili, jalapenos, sour cream,
> > onion and guacamole. (If you didnt want one item, tell them to
> > omit it and you generally got extra chili to make up for it unless
> > you asked for something else).
> >
> > Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> > wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She
> > is told they do not have containers like that but she continues to
> > whine like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the
> > line while placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She
> > was bound and determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell
> > with anyone else who didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as
> > she thought. At the end, she was getting cat calls and huffed off
> > vowing to never return, to the applause of the rest of us.
>
> What a jerk. I don't like different foods to touch, but I don't whine
> about it. To me, nachos is kind of like a sandwich, in that the parts
> add up to a whole. If I didn't want the components to touch, I
> wouldn't order nachos.
>
> I will admit that when I order the lunch special at a Chinese
> restaurant and everything comes on one plate, I don't eat the rice
> that has the sauce on it. I don't need all of that rice anyway.
>
> Manners maketh man.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Yup, she was over the top. Thats why I remember it so well as I've
never seen an adult act like that before to that extreme. I was
feeling bad for the folks who ran the place within 1 minute.

They were a neat little spot, serving breakfast from about 6am to 9:45
then closed the doors to put lunch out then opened again from 10:30-1pm
(varied with day of week and closed at 2pm Tues-Thurs). Lots of it
worked on an honor system because they had a blind cashier so you told
him if it was a 5 or a 1 etc and what the items were. A VA supported
small business in a military building with about 1,500 people working
there. Probably 1/3 of us ate something from there at least 4 days a
week. Prices not too terrible, you could generally get something decent
for 4$ or less for lunch.

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Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-06-02 1:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> > wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She
> > is told they do not have containers like that but she continues to
> > whine like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the
> > line while placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She
> > was bound and determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell
> > with anyone else who didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as
> > she thought. At the end, she was getting cat calls and huffed off
> > vowing to never return, to the applause of the rest of us.
>
> That's more than picky eating. It is more like a personality
> disorder. I have a brother in law who has many quirks. I think he
> may actually aspire to being quirky and thinks he is bright enough
> and important enough to be entitled to be that way. He has to have
> his food on a plate large enough that the various components of the
> meal do not touch each other and he eats one thing at a time.

LOL! I vaguely recall a time in my youth when my Mom was educating us
kids on table manners, that you were to take a bite 'around the plate'
so it was a bite of a veggie, a bite of a starch, then a meat, and then
the second veggie and so around. I think it was my sister who
preferred foods not touch but the fact that it isnt clear, means it was
not a strong thing and may have been my brother.

I do remember the requirement to 'clean your plate' was with an
exception that if 2 things mixed badly, (like mashed potato covered
green beans, or Spinach juice that drifted to the Macaroni and cheese),
it was ok to discard that last bite and still get dessert if you asked
if anyone else wanted them first. I normally sucked up those (grin).

My husband is so much the reverse with everything must touch and meld,
that at times I have to tell him I want to load my own plate. He's
perfectly happy to put turkey gravy over my green beans with a glob of
cranberry sauce for example. Although I like all of those things,
there is a distinct taste dis-appeal in cranberry-gravy-greenbeans.

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dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:23:06 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2017-06-02 1:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> > > wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch.
> > > She is told they do not have containers like that but she
> > > continues to whine like a little child for almost 10 minutes,
> > > holding up the line while placing herself so it was hard to get
> > > around her. She was bound and determined to get 'special
> > > treatment' and the hell with anyone else who didnt agree that
> > > Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end, she was
> > > getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
> > > applause of the rest of us.
> >
> > That's more than picky eating. It is more like a personality
> > disorder. I have a brother in law who has many quirks. I think he
> > may actually aspire to being quirky and thinks he is bright enough
> > and important enough to be entitled to be that way. He has to have
> > his food on a plate large enough that the various components of the
> > meal do not touch each other and he eats one thing at a time.
>
> People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix
> their foods up or have different foods touching. My son and my friend
> have this to some degree. I was eating with my OCD friend and I
> noticed that his plate looked a little odd. I said "say, you're
> eating your food in sequence. That's rather odd." He says "yup, I
> can't mix foods up!" Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if
> possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.

There is a level of accomodation reasonable, and a level over-the-top.
A 9 ingredient Nacho served in 9 different containers is over the top.


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On 2017-06-02 7:24 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:13:47 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 5:49:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix their foods up or have different foods touching. Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.
>>>
>>>
>> But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
>> as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
>> to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
>> of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
>> matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.
>
> Of course the foods will be touching in their stomach - logic has nothing to do with this. Most people won't "accommodate" i.e., cater to the whims of others. Mostly, they're set in their ways - the same as the people with ASD and OCD.
>

So.... who should be accommodating who? You seem to be assuming that
most of us are normal, so we have to accommodate those who are abnormal.
There are a lot of factors in the human psyche. We may be normal in some
aspects and abnormal in others.

On 2017-06-02 8:17 PM, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>> People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix
>> their foods up or have different foods touching. My son and my friend
>> have this to some degree. I was eating with my OCD friend and I
>> noticed that his plate looked a little odd. I said "say, you're
>> eating your food in sequence. That's rather odd." He says "yup, I
>> can't mix foods up!" Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if
>> possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.
>
> There is a level of accomodation reasonable, and a level over-the-top.
> A 9 ingredient Nacho served in 9 different containers is over the top.
>
>

We live in an age where we are expected to make reasonable accommodation
for people with special needs. The problem is that those who expect to
be accommodated overlook the reasonable part of that.

Wayne Boatwright wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri 02 Jun 2017 12:23:41p, Dave Smith told us...
>
> > On 2017-06-02 1:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'.
> >> She wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods
> >> touch. She is told they do not have containers like that but she
> >> continues to whine like a little child for almost 10 minutes,
> >> holding up the line while placing herself so it was hard to get
> >> around her. She was bound and determined to get 'special
> >> treatment' and the hell with anyone else who didnt agree that
> >> Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end, she was
> >> getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
> >> applause of the rest of us.
> >
> > That's more than picky eating. It is more like a personality
> > disorder. I have a brother in law who has many quirks. I think he
> > may actually aspire to being quirky and thinks he is bright enough
> > and important enough to be entitled to be that way. He has to have
> > his food on a plate large enough that the various components of
> > the meal do not touch each other and he eats one thing at a time.
> >
>
> My dad's father was worse than that. He liked most any food, but
> would only put one food item on his plate. When he had eaten that he
> would have to have a new clean plate for the next item.

WOW! Now that's OCD

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"cshenk" > wrote in news:I6WdnbcvAMDRPqzEnZ2dnUU7-
:

>
> Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She is
> told they do not have containers like that but she continues to *whine*
> like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the line while

She'd have done really well on the mess deck of a Navy ship, wouldn't she,
Chief?

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 2:17:15 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:23:06 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2017-06-02 1:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > > Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> > > > wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch.
> > > > She is told they do not have containers like that but she
> > > > continues to whine like a little child for almost 10 minutes,
> > > > holding up the line while placing herself so it was hard to get
> > > > around her. She was bound and determined to get 'special
> > > > treatment' and the hell with anyone else who didnt agree that
> > > > Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end, she was
> > > > getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
> > > > applause of the rest of us.
> > >
> > > That's more than picky eating. It is more like a personality
> > > disorder. I have a brother in law who has many quirks. I think he
> > > may actually aspire to being quirky and thinks he is bright enough
> > > and important enough to be entitled to be that way. He has to have
> > > his food on a plate large enough that the various components of the
> > > meal do not touch each other and he eats one thing at a time.
> >
> > People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix
> > their foods up or have different foods touching. My son and my friend
> > have this to some degree. I was eating with my OCD friend and I
> > noticed that his plate looked a little odd. I said "say, you're
> > eating your food in sequence. That's rather odd." He says "yup, I
> > can't mix foods up!" Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if
> > possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.
>
> There is a level of accomodation reasonable, and a level over-the-top.
> A 9 ingredient Nacho served in 9 different containers is over the top.
>
>
> --

I did use the words "if possible", didn't I?

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 2:46:46 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-06-02 7:24 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:13:47 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 5:49:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix their foods up or have different foods touching. Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
> >> as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
> >> to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
> >> of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
> >> matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.
> >
> > Of course the foods will be touching in their stomach - logic has nothing to do with this. Most people won't "accommodate" i.e., cater to the whims of others. Mostly, they're set in their ways - the same as the people with ASD and OCD.
> >
>
> So.... who should be accommodating who? You seem to be assuming that
> most of us are normal, so we have to accommodate those who are abnormal.
> There are a lot of factors in the human psyche. We may be normal in some
> aspects and abnormal in others.

You'll have to figure out how you want to handle that one yourself. I don't see any reason not to make an effort to make others feel comfortable. I spend a lot of time and effort doing this. My entire family is highly skilled in this.

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 7:13:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 5:49:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > People with atypical neurological systems tend to not like to mix their foods up or have different foods touching. Anyway, these people should be accommodated, if possible. They certainly should not be ridiculed and ostracized.
> >
> >
> But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
> as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
> to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
> of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
> matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.

The important thing is that it's not 'touching' in their mouth.

I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
stuff for the last few bites.

Cindy Hamilton

On 6/3/2017 6:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 7:13:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
>> as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
>> to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
>> of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
>> matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.
>
> The important thing is that it's not 'touching' in their mouth.
>
> I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
> stuff for the last few bites.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I tend to eat the most expensive item on the plate first. I'm not going
to fill up on mashed potatoes if there's a nice piece of prime rib right
next to it.

Jill

On 6/2/2017 10:41 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> I can appreciate that most people don't like everything and most can
>> describe what it is that they object to. Then there are those picky
>> eaters who just don't like something. I have a nephew who doesn't
>> like much. It is a pain in the butt to have him come for supper
>> because there are so few things he likes and he is so vocal about the
>> things he does not want, sort of like you might expect from a four
>> year old, except he is 44. He likes pizza, which is a major exception
>> from one of his big taboos, which is food that is red. Then there was
>> a former co-worker who didn't like much and could only describe his
>> dislikes as being yucky. People like that are not entitled to offer
>> an opinion.
>
> I once saw a truely rude picky eater. In the building I worked at,
> there was a small fast lunch place. No seating (take it back to your
> desk), steam table with 1-2 soups, 2-3 mains, a few sides. Varied by
> day with specials. Pretty much normal stuff but actually pretty well
> made. On Friday, they almost always had a fish dish and on Tuesday,
> Nachos!
>
> Now these nachos were served in a single small container with the chips
> on the bottom and the sauce on top plus with a small you could add
> jarred jalapenos and I think it was onion as a second free option, and
> you could add 25cents for a small bit of sour cream. The large came in
> a larger container with chips on the bottom, cheese, lettuce, tomatoes,
> chili, jalapenos, sour cream, onion and guacamole. (If you didnt want
> one item, tell them to omit it and you generally got extra chili to
> make up for it unless you asked for something else).
>
> Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She is
> told they do not have containers like that but she continues to *whine*
> like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the line while
> placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She was bound and
> determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell with anyone else who
> didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end,
> she was getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
> applause of the rest of us.
>
>
>


She became a U.S. Congresswoman.

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 9:28:21 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 6/3/2017 6:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 7:13:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >> But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
> >> as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
> >> to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
> >> of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
> >> matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.
> >
> > The important thing is that it's not 'touching' in their mouth.
> >
> > I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
> > stuff for the last few bites.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> I tend to eat the most expensive item on the plate first. I'm not going
> to fill up on mashed potatoes if there's a nice piece of prime rib right
> next to it.

Why would you plate more than you wanted to eat?

In a restaurant, I'd cut the prime rib in half; eat half and take half home.
I'd order baked rather than mashed. I probably wouldn't eat the entire
potato, but I'd save some for last because I like potatoes better than
beef. Most likely I'd scrape out most of the potato's "innards", eat the
peel and whatever was attached to it, and leave the rest.

At home, I'd just serve myself as much as I wanted to eat. We usually
have twice-baked potatoes with prime rib, and I usually eat half of one,
making sure that the last thing I ate was some of the potato.

Cindy Hamilton

On 6/3/2017 9:48 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 9:28:21 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 6/3/2017 6:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 7:13:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
>>>> as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
>>>> to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
>>>> of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
>>>> matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.
>>>
>>> The important thing is that it's not 'touching' in their mouth.
>>>
>>> I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
>>> stuff for the last few bites.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> I tend to eat the most expensive item on the plate first. I'm not going
>> to fill up on mashed potatoes if there's a nice piece of prime rib right
>> next to it.
>
> Why would you plate more than you wanted to eat?
>
I wouldn't. I didn't say I did. I was referring to restaurants.

Potatoes were merely an example of a side dish that is way too easy to
fill up on.

I've ordered a "petite" slice of medium rare prime rib. Nice
restaurants I've been to do serve prime rib in different portions. They
know how to make prime rib.

> In a restaurant, I'd cut the prime rib in half; eat half and take half home.

I would, too, if I couldn't eat all of it.

> I'd order baked rather than mashed. I probably wouldn't eat the entire
> potato, but I'd save some for last because I like potatoes better than
> beef. Most likely I'd scrape out most of the potato's "innards", eat the
> peel and whatever was attached to it, and leave the rest.
>
> At home, I'd just serve myself as much as I wanted to eat. We usually
> have twice-baked potatoes with prime rib, and I usually eat half of one,
> making sure that the last thing I ate was some of the potato.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I make and serve what I want myself, too. I have no problem with beef
or potatoes. Or most vegetables. That's not what we were talking
about. I said I eat the most expensive item on the plate first. I
thought it was pretty clear I meant *in a restaurant*.

I'm pretty sure most people here know by now I do not have a large
appetite. I definitely do not overload a plate. Haven't you seen any
of the pics?

Jill

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 12:41:38 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 6/3/2017 9:48 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 9:28:21 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> >> On 6/3/2017 6:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 7:13:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
> >>>> as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
> >>>> to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
> >>>> of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
> >>>> matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.
> >>>
> >>> The important thing is that it's not 'touching' in their mouth.
> >>>
> >>> I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
> >>> stuff for the last few bites.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>
> >> I tend to eat the most expensive item on the plate first. I'm not going
> >> to fill up on mashed potatoes if there's a nice piece of prime rib right
> >> next to it.
> >
> > Why would you plate more than you wanted to eat?
> >
> I wouldn't. I didn't say I did. I was referring to restaurants.
>
> Potatoes were merely an example of a side dish that is way too easy to
> fill up on.
>
> I've ordered a "petite" slice of medium rare prime rib. Nice
> restaurants I've been to do serve prime rib in different portions. They
> know how to make prime rib.

I know how to make prime rib, too. But the most petite prime rib in
a restaurant is still about twice what I'd want to eat. I eat a lot
of vegetables, a little meat, and very little carbs, even when I go
to a restaurant. It can be a challenge to find enough vegetables at
some restaurants. Good thing I like salad.

> > In a restaurant, I'd cut the prime rib in half; eat half and take half home.
>
> I would, too, if I couldn't eat all of it.
>
> > I'd order baked rather than mashed. I probably wouldn't eat the entire
> > potato, but I'd save some for last because I like potatoes better than
> > beef. Most likely I'd scrape out most of the potato's "innards", eat the
> > peel and whatever was attached to it, and leave the rest.
> >
> > At home, I'd just serve myself as much as I wanted to eat. We usually
> > have twice-baked potatoes with prime rib, and I usually eat half of one,
> > making sure that the last thing I ate was some of the potato.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> I make and serve what I want myself, too. I have no problem with beef
> or potatoes. Or most vegetables. That's not what we were talking
> about. I said I eat the most expensive item on the plate first. I
> thought it was pretty clear I meant *in a restaurant*.

Apparently not as clear as you thought. Usenet is just that way
sometimes.

> I'm pretty sure most people here know by now I do not have a large
> appetite. I definitely do not overload a plate. Haven't you seen any
> of the pics?

I rarely look at food pictures, but I do know your appetite is not
large.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
> > > OTOH, The Beatles' Sargent Pepper's Album and all the others of that ilk that followed would not have come to being if not for Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds. Well, that's what they say anyway.
> > >
> >
> > Really? It is more likely the other way around.
> > >
>
> 15. According to Beatles producer George Martin, "Without Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper never would have happened....Pepper was an attempt to equal Pet Sounds."
>
> http://mentalfloss.com/article/59457...out-pet-sounds

Perhaps you didn't read this bit

" Pet Sounds was inspired by the immaculately constructed and filler-
free Beatles album, Rubber Soul. "Rubber Soul blew my mind," Brian
Wilson says. "When I heard Rubber Soul, I said, 'That's it. That's all.
That's all folks.' I said, 'I'm going to make an album that's really
good, I mean really challenge me.' I mean, I love that ****ing album, I
cherish that album."

Janet UK
>

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2017-06-02 1:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
> > wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She is
> > told they do not have containers like that but she continues to *whine*
> > like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the line while
> > placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She was bound and
> > determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell with anyone else who
> > didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end,
> > she was getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
> > applause of the rest of us.
>
> That's more than picky eating. It is more like a personality disorder. I
> have a brother in law who has many quirks. I think he may actually
> aspire to being quirky and thinks he is bright enough and important
> enough to be entitled to be that way. He has to have his food on a plate
> large enough that the various components of the meal do not touch each
> other and he eats one thing at a time.

Is there anybody normal and pleasant in your family?

janet UK

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 5:39:08 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> The important thing is that it's not 'touching' in their mouth.
>
> I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
> stuff for the last few bites.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
I don't think it's as much that as the visual presentation on
their plate. With many it's just a control thing and they get
satisfaction making people dance to their tune. Small children
are particularly good at this and it continues on into adulthood
thinking mommy did this for me so should you! In their mind
they are special.

Oh yes, if there's something particularly scrumptious on my
plate I'll save a good bit of it to savor all by itself.

On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 19:16:39 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> On 2017-06-02 1:41 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > Along comes Miss Picky. She doesnt want her 'food to touch'. She
>> > wants a large 9 item nacho dish where none of the foods touch. She is
>> > told they do not have containers like that but she continues to *whine*
>> > like a little child for almost 10 minutes, holding up the line while
>> > placing herself so it was hard to get around her. She was bound and
>> > determined to get 'special treatment' and the hell with anyone else who
>> > didnt agree that Miss Picky was as special as she thought. At the end,
>> > she was getting cat calls and huffed off vowing to never return, to the
>> > applause of the rest of us.
>>
>> That's more than picky eating. It is more like a personality disorder. I
>> have a brother in law who has many quirks. I think he may actually
>> aspire to being quirky and thinks he is bright enough and important
>> enough to be entitled to be that way. He has to have his food on a plate
>> large enough that the various components of the meal do not touch each
>> other and he eats one thing at a time.
>
> Is there anybody normal and pleasant in your family?

Don't forget that if Dave's the judge, only Dave's pleasant and
normal.

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 2:55:03 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 5:39:08 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > The important thing is that it's not 'touching' in their mouth.
> >
> > I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
> > stuff for the last few bites.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> >
> I don't think it's as much that as the visual presentation on
> their plate. With many it's just a control thing and they get
> satisfaction making people dance to their tune. Small children
> are particularly good at this and it continues on into adulthood
> thinking mommy did this for me so should you! In their mind
> they are special.

It's not about visual. I don't want the taste of gravy on
my green beans. I don't want the taste of sauce on my rice.
You'll never see me take a forkful of turkey, dressing, gravy,
and green beans. A forkful of turkey, then a forkful of dressing,
then a forkful of green beans.

I'm a little OCD that way, but I'm well socialized. If things
on my plate touch, I get over it, or move stuff around until
it isn't touching. Quietly.

At home, salads are served first in chowder plates (we want
to fill up on salad). Then we go to the kitchen to plate the
rest of our food. I'm likely to put the meat on a small plate,
maybe with a slice of bread next to it, and if there's a veg
besides salad, it goes in its own bowl. If we have curry, the
curry goes in one bowl and the rice in another.

My husband is more normal. He fills up his plate with whatever's
for dinner, serves his curry on top of his rice like a sane person.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 8:11:33 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> dsi1yahoo.com says...
> > > > OTOH, The Beatles' Sargent Pepper's Album and all the others of that ilk that followed would not have come to being if not for Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds. Well, that's what they say anyway.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Really? It is more likely the other way around.
> > > >
> >
> > 15. According to Beatles producer George Martin, "Without Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper never would have happened....Pepper was an attempt to equal Pet Sounds."
> >
> > http://mentalfloss.com/article/59457...out-pet-sounds
>
> Perhaps you didn't read this bit
>
> " Pet Sounds was inspired by the immaculately constructed and filler-
> free Beatles album, Rubber Soul. "Rubber Soul blew my mind," Brian
> Wilson says. "When I heard Rubber Soul, I said, 'That's it. That's all.
> That's all folks.' I said, 'I'm going to make an album that's really
> good, I mean really challenge me.' I mean, I love that ****ing album, I
> cherish that album."
>
> Janet UK
> >

I already knew this. I could have said that if it were not for the Beatles, Sergeant Pepper would not have been made but that would have been going too far. I say, you're rather presumptuous.

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 2:43:12 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> My husband is more normal. He fills up his plate with whatever's
> for dinner, serves his curry on top of his rice like a sane person.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

On 6/3/2017 2:54 PM, wrote:
> On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 5:39:08 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
>> stuff for the last few bites.

> Oh yes, if there's something particularly scrumptious on my
> plate I'll save a good bit of it to savor all by itself.

For instance, if it's eggs and bacon, the last bite will be bacon.

I was taught to eat the thing I liked least, first. Get it out
of the way. I still kind of order my eating that way though I
don't eat one thing on my plate until it's gone and move onto the
next.

nancy

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 11:27:20 AM UTC-10, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/3/2017 2:54 PM, wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 5:39:08 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >> I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
> >> stuff for the last few bites.
>
> > Oh yes, if there's something particularly scrumptious on my
> > plate I'll save a good bit of it to savor all by itself.
>
> For instance, if it's eggs and bacon, the last bite will be bacon.
>
> I was taught to eat the thing I liked least, first. Get it out
> of the way. I still kind of order my eating that way though I
> don't eat one thing on my plate until it's gone and move onto the
> next.
>
> nancy

My guess is that people don't eat their food in a random fashion. Everybody has a plan of attack, everyone is an eating strategist when coming upon a plate of food. There's probably a lot to be learned about a person based on their food sequencing, staging, velocities, and vectors.

On 6/3/2017 6:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 11:27:20 AM UTC-10, Nancy Young wrote:

>> I was taught to eat the thing I liked least, first. Get it out
>> of the way. I still kind of order my eating that way though I
>> don't eat one thing on my plate until it's gone and move onto the
>> next.

> My guess is that people don't eat their food in a random fashion.
>Everybody has a plan of attack, everyone is an eating strategist
>when coming upon a plate of food. There's probably a lot to be learned
>about a person based on their food sequencing, staging, velocities,
>and vectors.

It started with getting the dreaded liver over with, wonder what it
says that I generally save the salad or bread for last? Heh.

nancy

On 2017-06-03 9:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> I tend to eat the most expensive item on the plate first. I'm not going
> to fill up on mashed potatoes if there's a nice piece of prime rib right
> next to it.
>

I used to do that. After a coronary problem I switched to eating the
vegetables first, then the meat, then the starch.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/3/2017 6:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 7:13:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> But, but, but all that food is 'touching' in their stomach
>>> as well as in their intestines as it makes it's way along
>>> to it's inevitable reappearance. I'm not going to make fun
>>> of them but I'm sure not going to cater to their whims no
>>> matter what fancy sounding name is attached to their quirk.
>>
>> The important thing is that it's not 'touching' in their mouth.
>>
>> I occasionally eat serially, or else leave quite a bit of my favorite
>> stuff for the last few bites.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> I tend to eat the most expensive item on the plate first. I'm not
> going to fill up on mashed potatoes if there's a nice piece of prime
> rib right next to it.
>
> Jill

Because of price?

On 6/3/2017 9:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-06-03 9:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I tend to eat the most expensive item on the plate first. I'm not
>> going to fill up on mashed potatoes if there's a nice piece of prime
>> rib right next to it.
>>
>
> I used to do that. After a coronary problem I switched to eating the
> vegetables first, then the meat, then the starch.

I've yet to have a coronary problem. <knock wood> If there's a bit of
prime beef or steak on the plate I'd much rather finish that than fill
up on whatever potatoes. That's all I really said. It has nothing to
do with being healthy. It has everything to do with what I said -
eating the most expensive item on the plate first. That could also be
interpreted as "eat the chicken nuggets before the fries".

Jill