Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
restaurant? I'll pass.

These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!

There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age

When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
herbs and spices. On some level I realized he didn't want to eat
because he couldn't really taste it. Had to kick things up a notch, so
to speak.

Have your tastes in food changed as you get older?

Jill

On 2017-06-21 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow
> up having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood
> the notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert
> menu in a restaurant? I'll pass.

I have always liked to have dessert, but things that are really sweet I
eat only in small amounts. I eat a square of dark chocolate every few
days, but just one square. I rarely eat candies. Yet, dessert remains
an important element of a meal for me.




> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
> scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love
> sweets!
>
> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>
> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age
>
>
>
> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't
> help that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot
> roast, mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made
> much use of herbs and spices. On some level I realized he didn't
> want to eat because he couldn't really taste it. Had to kick things
> up a notch, so to speak.
>
> Have your tastes in food changed as you get older?

There are things I like now that I did not like when I was younger, like
squash and yams. I like carrots less than I did when I was young. I like
fish a lot more than I used to, but that may be because I learned how to
cook it better. I used to despise Brussels Sprouts, but now that I have
them barely cooked they are quite good. I like a lot more herbs and
spices that I used to. I learned to like lamb, and to eat beef rare.

On 6/21/2017 11:04 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-06-21 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow
>> up having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood
>> the notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert
>> menu in a restaurant? I'll pass.
>
> I have always liked to have dessert, but things that are really sweet I
> eat only in small amounts. I eat a square of dark chocolate every few
> days, but just one square. I rarely eat candies. Yet, dessert remains
> an important element of a meal for me.
>
I keep some small wrapped butterscotch candies in a dish in the living
room. Every once in a while I'll have one. I love butterscotch.

>> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
>> scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love
>> sweets!
>>
>> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age
>>
>>
>> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't
>> help that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot
>> roast, mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made
>> much use of herbs and spices. On some level I realized he didn't
>> want to eat because he couldn't really taste it. Had to kick things
>> up a notch, so to speak.
>>
>> Have your tastes in food changed as you get older?
>
> There are things I like now that I did not like when I was younger, like
> squash and yams. I like carrots less than I did when I was young. I like
> fish a lot more than I used to, but that may be because I learned how to
> cook it better. I used to despise Brussels Sprouts, but now that I have
> them barely cooked they are quite good. I like a lot more herbs and
> spices that I used to. I learned to like lamb, and to eat beef rare.
>
Thanks for your reply, Dave. I guess I've always liked squash. All
kinds of squash. The "yams" I grew up with were canned, as were most of
the vegetables Mom bought. I do love what we call "yams" - sweet
potatoes. But only when fresh. And not in a pie.

I didn't grow up eating lamb. I discovered I loved it when I was taken
to a restaurant by my high school boyfriend the night of the Senior
Prom. LOL I'd never tasted it before. Now I buy it a few times a year.
Braised lamb shanks are delicious. Lamb chops on the grill or roasted
are wonderful. I have yet to try ground lamb to make lamb burgers.
That's only because I forget to look for it.

I love beef, but it always has to be cooked to no more than medium-rare.
Unless we're talking chuck roast simmered in liquid...

Thanks for your thoughts.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
> having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
> notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
> restaurant? I'll pass.
>
> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
> scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!
>
> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>
> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age


it could also be a sign of insulin resistance

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:36:14 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
> having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
> notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
> restaurant? I'll pass.
>
> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
> scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!
>
> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>
> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age
>
> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
> herbs and spices. On some level I realized he didn't want to eat
> because he couldn't really taste it. Had to kick things up a notch, so
> to speak.
>
> Have your tastes in food changed as you get older?

They made a big change after I left home. More spices, more ethnic.
Since then the curve has flattened out and my preferences have not
changed that much in the last 20 years or so. I'm 60.

That said, I'm eating a lot more healthfully than I did 20 years ago.

Cindy Hamilton

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
> having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
> notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
> restaurant? I'll pass.
>
> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a scoop
> of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!

Yes, my tastes have changed, some things I never cared for in the past, I
find I really like now, and some things that I really liked in the past,
don't much care for now.

Cheri

On 6/21/2017 12:07 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
>> having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
>> notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
>> restaurant? I'll pass.
>>
>> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
>> scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!
>>
>> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age
>
>
> it could also be a sign of insulin resistance
>
>
Well, sorry, I'm not diabetic so I don't think that's the reason I now
like a couple of cookies in the evening.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
> having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
> notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
> restaurant? I'll pass.
>
> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a scoop
> of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!
>
> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>
> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age
>
> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
> herbs and spices. On some level I realized he didn't want to eat because
> he couldn't really taste it. Had to kick things up a notch, so to speak.
>
> Have your tastes in food changed as you get older?
>
> Jill

I ate things as a child that I won't eat now. Chicken hearts and steak come
to mind. Also fried okra. We had that a lot in the summer. But who knows? We
can't get good, fresh okra here. If we could, I might still eat that. In
general though, I have never eaten a lot of fried foods. Also have not been
a big sweets eater. There are certain specific sweets that I like, such as
Twizzlers but only the strawberry flavor and Mentos but only the peppermint.

I have been told and have also read that our taste buds will die out when we
get old. The ones that taste sweet are the last to go. This is why so many
seniors prefer sweets. I am not to that point yet.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 6/21/2017 12:07 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
>>> having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
>>> notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
>>> restaurant? I'll pass.
>>>
>>> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
>>> scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!
>>>
>>> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age
>>
>>
>> it could also be a sign of insulin resistance
>>
>>
> Well, sorry, I'm not diabetic so I don't think that's the reason I now
> like a couple of cookies in the evening.
>
> Jill

I am and I have extreme insulin resistance. I don't crave sweets though. But
when I was pregnant, I went through a brief period of craving fruit punch or
juice. This is before I knew that I had gestational diabetes. Once that was
discovered and I was put on the correct diet, the cravings stopped.

On 6/21/2017 11:04 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-06-21 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow
>> up having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood
>> the notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert
>> menu in a restaurant? I'll pass.
>
> I have always liked to have dessert, but things that are really sweet I
> eat only in small amounts. I eat a square of dark chocolate every few
> days, but just one square. I rarely eat candies. Yet, dessert remains
> an important element of a meal for me.
>
>
>

Unfortunately, I've always liked sweets. As a rule, we don't have
dessert, but a couple of hours later we have a sweet snack. Like Jill,
it may be a scoop of ice cream.

After lunch at work I'd usually have a small piece of candy like 2
Hersheu kisses. About 2 PM I'd have a piece of fruit

After breakfast (often 2 fried or soft boiled eggs) I will often have a
second piece of toast with strawberry preserves to finish my tea. I
guess you could consider it to be dessert.

"jmcquown" wrote in message news
Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
restaurant? I'll pass.

These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!

There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age

When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
herbs and spices. On some level I realized he didn't want to eat
because he couldn't really taste it. Had to kick things up a notch, so
to speak.

Have your tastes in food changed as you get older?

Jill

==

Yes they have. The older I get, the fewer and fewer foods I really like.

I used to love sweet stuff, but now all I am interested in is ice cream.

Apart from sweet stuff, there are many things that as time goes on, I
realise I don't really like any more.

That link is very interesting. I am on a lot of meds, perhaps that has a
lot do with it.

I have always put it down to age

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On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
> herbs and spices.

No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:56:05 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
>> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
>> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
>> herbs and spices.
>
>No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
>care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.

Nothing half a bottle of wine won't cure.

"Gary" wrote in message news
On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
> herbs and spices.

No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.


==

Why? Not everyone likes spics you know!


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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:56:05 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
>> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
>> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
>> herbs and spices.
>
>No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
>care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.

Nothing half a bottle of wine won't cure.

==

Good point)))

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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:26:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Gary" wrote in message news >
> On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
> > that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
> > mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
> > herbs and spices.
>
> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.
>
>
> ==
>
> Why? Not everyone likes spics you know!
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

This is not a good time for spics, that's for sure!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:26:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Gary" wrote in message news >
> On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
> > that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
> > mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
> > herbs and spices.
>
> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.
>
>
> ==
>
> Why? Not everyone likes spics you know!
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

This is not a good time for spics, that's for sure!

===

Errr *SPICES* as you well knew))



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On 6/21/2017 3:56 PM, Gary wrote:
> On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
>> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
>> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
>> herbs and spices.
>
> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.
>
No offense taken. She grew up eating pretty bland food. So did Dad,
for that matter. (He literally married the girl next door.) She hated
to cook. Doesn't negate the fact he really couldn't taste much when he
got older.

Jill

On 6/21/2017 4:26 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:56:05 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
>>> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
>>> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
>>> herbs and spices.
>>
>> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
>> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.
>
> Nothing half a bottle of wine won't cure.
>
> ==
>
> Good point)))
>
Only a half?! LOLOL

Jill

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 17:13:52 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/21/2017 4:26 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:56:05 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
>>>> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
>>>> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
>>>> herbs and spices.
>>>
>>> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
>>> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.
>>
>> Nothing half a bottle of wine won't cure.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Good point)))
>>
>Only a half?! LOLOL

On 6/21/2017 11:52 AM, l not -l wrote:
> On 21-Jun-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> Have your tastes in food changed as you get older?
>>
>> Jill
> Yes, and no. Yes, I now eat things that I once thought yucky; examples are
> Fig Newtons, asparagus and radishes. No, because now I find I also crave
> foods from my youth that I haven't had in years or at least seldom have;
> this morning's breakfast for example - 4 ounce chunk of pan fried ham steak,
> two eggs over, served attop buttery grits. Which put me in the mood to soon
> have country ham, red-eye gravy and biscuits; which I haven't had since the
> 70s.
>
> My father craved sweet foods in his later years, saying nothing else had any
> taste. A widespread phenomenon if the habits of the elderly shoppers I see
> every Friday are a good barometer.
>
I've always loved asparagus and Fig Newtons. I still don't like
radishes. I doubt I ever will.

Dad could taste sweet stuff so I'd buy pastries from the in-store bakery
for him. He didn't know who I was by that point, but he sure knew where
the tupperware container of cinnamon rolls or other bakery pastries were.

Jill

On 2017-06-21 1:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/21/2017 12:07 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
>>> having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
>>> notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
>>> restaurant? I'll pass.
>>>
>>> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
>>> scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!
>>>
>>> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age
>>>
>>
>>
>> it could also be a sign of insulin resistance
>>
>>
> Well, sorry, I'm not diabetic so I don't think that's the reason I now
> like a couple of cookies in the evening.

I can't even remember the last time I bought cookies, not even the in
store bakery fare. I remember that they were a real treat when I was a
kid because what we ever got back then was home made cookies. Store
boughts were a special treat. I now find them way too sweet and totally
unsatisfying. It must be a sugar rush that leaves me wanting more. I
used to almost always have some home baked cookies om hand and I had a
bad habit of snacking on them too often.

I think my new weakness is date squares. They are so much more
satisfying than cookies. However, they are loaded with calories. AAMOF
I was going to make some about a week ago but found that my date supply
had run out.

On 2017-06-21 3:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/21/2017 11:04 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

> Unfortunately, I've always liked sweets. As a rule, we don't have
> dessert, but a couple of hours later we have a sweet snack. Like Jill,
> it may be a scoop of ice cream.
>
> After lunch at work I'd usually have a small piece of candy like 2
> Hersheu kisses. About 2 PM I'd have a piece of fruit
>
> After breakfast (often 2 fried or soft boiled eggs) I will often have a
> second piece of toast with strawberry preserves to finish my tea. I
> guess you could consider it to be dessert.

After heart surgery I was on a strict diet for a while. I found that if
I felt like a snack, instead of a cookie, I would have 2-3 grapes. That
did the trick. My diet allowed me a cookie for dessert, and I could do
that and still lose weight. If I had a second one I gained. I know it
sounds absurd, but I was keeping track and noticed it several time. It
never seemed to happen when I snacked on fruit.

On 2017-06-21 3:56 PM, Gary wrote:
> On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
>> that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
>> mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
>> herbs and spices.
>
> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.

I have come to realize that a lot of people don't like herbs and spices
in their food. They prefer things bland. I live near the home of
Buffalo wings and discovered them before they went international. When
I have then I order them hot and enjoy them, but I know people who find
even the mild ones to be too hot.

On 2017-06-21 5:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he
>> didn't care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food,
>> imo.
>>
> No offense taken. She grew up eating pretty bland food. So did
> Dad, for that matter. (He literally married the girl next door.) She
> hated to cook. Doesn't negate the fact he really couldn't taste much
> when he got older.

My parents were born born in the 1920s and raised on bland Anglo food.
We were usually careful not to spice things up when they came for
dinner. One night when they came for dinner I cooked Tandoori chicken.
My father had never been much of a meat eater, and it was the first time
I ever saw him help himself to seconds. The next time was when I grilled
pork chops that had been rubbed with salt, pepper, garlic powder,
oregano and mint. He loved them.

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:24:31 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-06-21 5:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he
>>> didn't care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food,
>>> imo.
>>>
>> No offense taken. She grew up eating pretty bland food. So did
>> Dad, for that matter. (He literally married the girl next door.) She
>> hated to cook. Doesn't negate the fact he really couldn't taste much
>> when he got older.
>
>My parents were born born in the 1920s and raised on bland Anglo food.
>We were usually careful not to spice things up when they came for
>dinner. One night when they came for dinner I cooked Tandoori chicken.
>My father had never been much of a meat eater, and it was the first time
>I ever saw him help himself to seconds. The next time was when I grilled
>pork chops that had been rubbed with salt, pepper, garlic powder,
>oregano and mint. He loved them.

There's often a compliment to yourself in your posts. Did you ace any
tests today?

jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/21/2017 12:07 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
>>> having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
>>> notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
>>> restaurant? I'll pass.
>>>
>>> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
>>> scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!
>>>
>>> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age
>>
>>
>> it could also be a sign of insulin resistance
>>
>>
> Well, sorry, I'm not diabetic so I don't think that's the reason I now
> like a couple of cookies in the evening.
>
> Jill

maybe it's your thyroid

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:50:55 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:26:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "Gary" wrote in message news > >
> > On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't help
> > > that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot roast,
> > > mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made much use of
> > > herbs and spices.
> >
> > No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
> > care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.
> >
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Why? Not everyone likes spics you know!
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> This is not a good time for spics, that's for sure!
>
> ===
>
> Errr *SPICES* as you well knew))
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I did know. Please forgive my serious lack of restraint in this matter. Thank you.

Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "Gary" wrote in message news > On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't
> > help that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot
> > roast, mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made
> > much use of herbs and spices.
>
> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.
>
>
> ==
>
> Why? Not everyone likes spices you know!

(fixed minor typo above).

It may be a language thing here but you seem to relate the word
'spices' to 'spicy' and mean hot. USA/Canada folks don't mean that when
they says 'spices' in the same way you might be thinking. Sure, we
might but it's not automatic.

I tend to lump herbs in with 'spices' as a generic when I refer to
seasonings but Gary has them separate. List of things we'd call
'spices' (not even remotely conclusive): garlic powder, cinnamon, mace,
nutmeg, sweet or hot paprika, pepper, cardamom, cumin, mustard,
fenugreek (seeds, ground), ginger, 'poulty seasoning' (a ubiquitous
blend here you might use in stuffing and many other things), sesame
seeds, anise seed (ground or whole or crushed), tumeric, onion powder
and so on it goes. I'm sure there are hundreds of them that could be
meant in a generic way with 'spices' by us here.

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On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 19:33:05 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> "Gary" wrote in message news >> On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> > When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't
>> > help that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot
>> > roast, mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made
>> > much use of herbs and spices.
>>
>> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
>> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.
>>
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Why? Not everyone likes spices you know!
>
>(fixed minor typo above).
>
>It may be a language thing here but you seem to relate the word
>'spices' to 'spicy' and mean hot. USA/Canada folks don't mean that when
>they says 'spices' in the same way you might be thinking. Sure, we
>might but it's not automatic.

I've noticed that too. To me, spicy food is hot. To Americans, it may
mean there's a lot of cinnamon in there.

Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-06-21 5:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > > No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he
> > > didn't care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy
> > > food, imo.
> > >
> > No offense taken. She grew up eating pretty bland food. So did
> > Dad, for that matter. (He literally married the girl next door.)
> > She hated to cook. Doesn't negate the fact he really couldn't
> > taste much when he got older.
>
> My parents were born born in the 1920s and raised on bland Anglo
> food. We were usually careful not to spice things up when they came
> for dinner. One night when they came for dinner I cooked Tandoori
> chicken. My father had never been much of a meat eater, and it was
> the first time I ever saw him help himself to seconds. The next time
> was when I grilled pork chops that had been rubbed with salt, pepper,
> garlic powder, oregano and mint. He loved them.

My FIL was almost in the opposite side. His wife was actually a very
good cook, but tended to over spice. Not too badly, but just enough to
be less optimal. Never hot spices, just a little 'too much of a good
thing'. Clove was one of her favorites.

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Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-06-21 3:56 PM, Gary wrote:
> > On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It
> > > didn't help that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong
> > > with her pot roast, mashed potatoes and green beans. But she
> > > never really made much use of herbs and spices.
> >
> > No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he
> > didn't care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy
> > food, imo.
>
> I have come to realize that a lot of people don't like herbs and
> spices in their food. They prefer things bland. I live near the home
> of Buffalo wings and discovered them before they went international.
> When I have then I order them hot and enjoy them, but I know people
> who find even the mild ones to be too hot.

I might be in that crowd. I generally don't like 'hot just for the
sake of hot'. If described as a '5 alarm chili' I am apt to not even
taste it. Hot buffalo wings fall in there. I like the milder form
better. I also like Kimchee (grin). There the 'hot' fits right.


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On 2017-06-22, cshenk > wrote:

> It may be a language thing here but you seem to relate the word
> 'spices' to 'spicy' and mean hot. USA/Canada folks don't mean that when
> they says 'spices' in the same way you might be thinking. Sure, we
> might but it's not automatic.

Try using "savory" as a qualifier for non-spicy spices.

nb

On 6/21/2017 7:03 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 6/21/2017 12:07 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Except as a child, I've never really cared for sweets. I didn't grow up
>>>> having dessert with every meal. As such, I never quite understood the
>>>> notion of having a slice of cake or pie after dinner. Dessert menu in a
>>>> restaurant? I'll pass.
>>>>
>>>> These days, however, I find myself wanting a couple of cookies or a
>>>> scoop of ice cream in the evening after dinner. Suddenly I love sweets!
>>>>
>>>> There are a lot of articles online about this. Here's one:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...dull-as-we-age
>>>
>>>
>>> it could also be a sign of insulin resistance
>>>
>>>
>> Well, sorry, I'm not diabetic so I don't think that's the reason I now
>> like a couple of cookies in the evening.
>>
>> Jill
>
> maybe it's your thyroid
>
Nope. I don't have a myriad of health issues. You might be mistaking
me for someone who lives in your general vicinity.

Jill

On 6/21/2017 8:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> "Gary" wrote in message news >> On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It didn't
>>> help that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong with her pot
>>> roast, mashed potatoes and green beans. But she never really made
>>> much use of herbs and spices.
>>
>> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he didn't
>> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food, imo.
>>
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Why? Not everyone likes spices you know!
>
> (fixed minor typo above).
>
> It may be a language thing here but you seem to relate the word
> 'spices' to 'spicy' and mean hot. USA/Canada folks don't mean that when
> they says 'spices' in the same way you might be thinking. Sure, we
> might but it's not automatic.
>
Surely you know by now Ophelia and her husband don't like pepper. I
don't mean chili peppers, just plain ground pepper, which *is* a spice.

To me, life without pepper would be very bland indeed. But we can't all
like the same things.

Pretty much the only seasonings my mom used when I was growing up was
salt & pepper. Occasionally garlic powder or onion powder. Herbs? Bay
leaf in the simmered pot roast and occasionally some parsley. My mom's
cooking mostly *was* pretty bland.

Jill

> I tend to lump herbs in with 'spices' as a generic when I refer to
> seasonings but Gary has them separate. List of things we'd call
> 'spices' (not even remotely conclusive): garlic powder, cinnamon, mace,
> nutmeg, sweet or hot paprika, pepper, cardamom, cumin, mustard,
> fenugreek (seeds, ground), ginger, 'poulty seasoning' (a ubiquitous
> blend here you might use in stuffing and many other things), sesame
> seeds, anise seed (ground or whole or crushed), tumeric, onion powder
> and so on it goes. I'm sure there are hundreds of them that could be
> meant in a generic way with 'spices' by us here.
>

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 19:50:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 2017-06-21 3:56 PM, Gary wrote:
>> > On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> > > When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It
>> > > didn't help that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong
>> > > with her pot roast, mashed potatoes and green beans. But she
>> > > never really made much use of herbs and spices.
>> >
>> > No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he
>> > didn't care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy
>> > food, imo.
>>
>> I have come to realize that a lot of people don't like herbs and
>> spices in their food. They prefer things bland. I live near the home
>> of Buffalo wings and discovered them before they went international.
>> When I have then I order them hot and enjoy them, but I know people
>> who find even the mild ones to be too hot.
>
>I might be in that crowd. I generally don't like 'hot just for the
>sake of hot'. If described as a '5 alarm chili' I am apt to not even
>taste it. Hot buffalo wings fall in there. I like the milder form
>better. I also like Kimchee (grin). There the 'hot' fits right.

As a teen I liked hot, in winter I'd stop at a deli for a large fries
or a couple kasha k'nishes and a half dozen cherry peppers... winter
antifreeze... but as I reached middle age those hot peppers burned a
lot more coming out as going in so I no longer eat hot peppers. I can
easily handle hot Chinese mustard and super strong horseradish, but
not hot peppers. I can handle hot Eyetalian saw-seege, pepperoni, and
hot sopressata but not hot peppers. Hot oriental mustard and
horseradish is a very different kind of hot. blows your skull out for
a brief moment but leaves your nether region alone.

I never liked kimchee but I like regular kraut a lot... can't enjoy a
dawg without... I like dawgs, ring bologna, and kielbasa simmered in a
potful of kraut and dark brewski.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 19:50:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On 2017-06-21 3:56 PM, Gary wrote:
> >> > On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >> > > When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It
> >> > > didn't help that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong
> >> > > with her pot roast, mashed potatoes and green beans. But she
> >> > > never really made much use of herbs and spices.
> >> >
> >> > No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he
> >> > didn't care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy
> >> > food, imo.
> >>
> >> I have come to realize that a lot of people don't like herbs and
> >> spices in their food. They prefer things bland. I live near the
> home >> of Buffalo wings and discovered them before they went
> international. >> When I have then I order them hot and enjoy them,
> but I know people >> who find even the mild ones to be too hot.
> >
> > I might be in that crowd. I generally don't like 'hot just for the
> > sake of hot'. If described as a '5 alarm chili' I am apt to not
> > even taste it. Hot buffalo wings fall in there. I like the milder
> > form better. I also like Kimchee (grin). There the 'hot' fits
> > right.
>
> As a teen I liked hot, in winter I'd stop at a deli for a large fries
> or a couple kasha k'nishes and a half dozen cherry peppers... winter
> antifreeze... but as I reached middle age those hot peppers burned a
> lot more coming out as going in so I no longer eat hot peppers. I can
> easily handle hot Chinese mustard and super strong horseradish, but
> not hot peppers. I can handle hot Eyetalian saw-seege, pepperoni, and
> hot sopressata but not hot peppers. Hot oriental mustard and
> horseradish is a very different kind of hot. blows your skull out for
> a brief moment but leaves your nether region alone.
>
> I never liked kimchee but I like regular kraut a lot... can't enjoy a
> dawg without... I like dawgs, ring bologna, and kielbasa simmered in a
> potful of kraut and dark brewski.

THats actually a common reaction to have where 'good going in, not so
good going out'. Some always have it and learn to fear 'spicy' (but
often only react to the fresh oils, not the dried product) and it can
shift as you get older very easily, to be more adverse.

I make several 'mild' kimchee types sporadically here. That means they
don't blow your socks off but have a definate bite.
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Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 19:33:05 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> "Gary" wrote in message news > >> On 6/21/2017 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >> > When Dad was 83, Mom had a hard time getting him to eat. (It
> didn't >> > help that he had Alzheimers.) There was nothing wrong
> with her pot >> > roast, mashed potatoes and green beans. But she
> never really made >> > much use of herbs and spices.
> >>
> >> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he
> didn't >> care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy
> food, imo. >>
> >>
> >> ==
> >>
> >> Why? Not everyone likes spices you know!
> >
> > (fixed minor typo above).
> >
> > It may be a language thing here but you seem to relate the word
> > 'spices' to 'spicy' and mean hot. USA/Canada folks don't mean that
> > when they says 'spices' in the same way you might be thinking.
> > Sure, we might but it's not automatic.
>
> I've noticed that too. To me, spicy food is hot. To Americans, it may
> mean there's a lot of cinnamon in there.

Yup! If we say 'Tex-Mex' and spicy, we probably mean hot. It's not a
given though that we mean 'hot' when we say 'spicy'. For that reason I
tend to use 'savory' frequently to avoid the confusion but sadly, to
others thant seems to translate more as 'juicy' for some reason.

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notbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-06-22, cshenk > wrote:
>
> > It may be a language thing here but you seem to relate the word
> > 'spices' to 'spicy' and mean hot. USA/Canada folks don't mean that
> > when they says 'spices' in the same way you might be thinking.
> > Sure, we might but it's not automatic.
>
> Try using "savory" as a qualifier for non-spicy spices.
>
> nb

LOL, was jst typing that but some places they put that in the catagory
of 'juicy' (I don't know why).

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On 6/21/2017 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-06-21 5:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> No offense to Mom but that comment right there explains why he
>>> didn't care to eat her food. No herbs or spices? Bland crappy food,
>>> imo.
>>>
>> No offense taken. She grew up eating pretty bland food. So did
>> Dad, for that matter. (He literally married the girl next door.) She
>> hated to cook. Doesn't negate the fact he really couldn't taste much
>> when he got older.
>
> My parents were born born in the 1920s and raised on bland Anglo food.
> We were usually careful not to spice things up when they came for
> dinner. One night when they came for dinner I cooked Tandoori chicken.
> My father had never been much of a meat eater, and it was the first time
> I ever saw him help himself to seconds. The next time was when I grilled
> pork chops that had been rubbed with salt, pepper, garlic powder,
> oregano and mint. He loved them.
>
>
My parents were born in the 1920's, too. My mother thought lemon with
fish was exotic! Then again, she thought fish (any kind) was exotic.

She actually had a number of good recipes she'd trot out from time to
time. But she really didn't care much about cooking. Mostly just meat
& potatoes + some kind of vegetable. Maybe a salad. Her cupboard was
very limited in terms of herbs and spices.

Jill