On 6/28/2017 11:09 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 20:06:15 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 4:52:35 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 6/28/2017 9:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was at Walgreens yesterday and commented on the contactless terminal. "Can people make payments using their phones?" She said she thought so. I told her it's kind a scary thing to do. One of these days, I'm gonna pull the lever and use my phone. My guess is that in 5 years or less, most POS payments will be made this way. Yoose guys better get a smart phone pronto.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There are at least three or four programs that allow you to do that.
>>> Another thing I've noticed, a lot of stores no longer require you to
>>> sign when you make a purchase. Twice I paid $300+ and no sig reqired.
>>
>> I'd like to be able to make a payment using a smart watch.
>
> I want to make a payment by winking.
>

I would love a smart thingie that makes all my payments and charges it
to Sheldon's bank account. Now that would rule! hehahh

On 6/28/2017 11:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I've typed hundreds of thousands of Unix commands and...

And yet you still have time to cook enough new things as a very busy
chef? You are my hero, Stevers. heheh :-D

"Gary" wrote in message news
On 6/28/2017 11:09 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 20:06:15 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 4:52:35 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 6/28/2017 9:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was at Walgreens yesterday and commented on the contactless terminal.
>>>> "Can people make payments using their phones?" She said she thought so.
>>>> I told her it's kind a scary thing to do. One of these days, I'm gonna
>>>> pull the lever and use my phone. My guess is that in 5 years or less,
>>>> most POS payments will be made this way. Yoose guys better get a smart
>>>> phone pronto.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There are at least three or four programs that allow you to do that.
>>> Another thing I've noticed, a lot of stores no longer require you to
>>> sign when you make a purchase. Twice I paid $300+ and no sig reqired.
>>
>> I'd like to be able to make a payment using a smart watch.
>
> I want to make a payment by winking.
>

I would love a smart thingie that makes all my payments and charges it
to Sheldon's bank account. Now that would rule! hehahh

===

Hey, if you ever find out how ... )

;-)




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On 6/29/2017 4:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> I very rarely use cash, I use my debit card. I wouldn't know how to use my
> phone for payment. I am not saying it doesn't happen though.

I keep some cash in wallet for small purchases but most times I use my
debit card.

That's how I spent part of my birthday evening yesterday.... 10 debit
receipts and a deposit slip in my wallet. They stay in my wallet until I
sit down and enter them into the checkbook register then add/subtract
them all, then go immediately online to make sure my balance is the same
as the bank balance. It almost always balances immediately (nice). If it
shows different it's always been my math error.

I've never used an ATM where they charge you a fee for money. Most
stores will allow some "cash back" from a purchase if I need a bit more.

I still pay a handful of monthly bills by check/snail mail. I might
change that soon though.

"Gary" wrote in message news
On 6/29/2017 4:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> I very rarely use cash, I use my debit card. I wouldn't know how to use
> my
> phone for payment. I am not saying it doesn't happen though.

I keep some cash in wallet for small purchases but most times I use my
debit card.

That's how I spent part of my birthday evening yesterday.... 10 debit
receipts and a deposit slip in my wallet. They stay in my wallet until I
sit down and enter them into the checkbook register then add/subtract
them all, then go immediately online to make sure my balance is the same
as the bank balance. It almost always balances immediately (nice). If it
shows different it's always been my math error.

I've never used an ATM where they charge you a fee for money. Most
stores will allow some "cash back" from a purchase if I need a bit more.

I still pay a handful of monthly bills by check/snail mail. I might
change that soon though.

==

I can't remember when we last used cheques!!

Anyway, come on! What did you treat yourself to for your birthday?)




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On 6/29/2017 9:19 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

> Your phone may already have the program, Samsung Pay, Android Pay or
> similar. You associate a credit card with it. Your phone has to be on
> but the program does not have to be open. You just wave the phone over
> the sensor and it is done.
>
> To activate the program your phone also must have security to open it,
> like a pin or fingerprint sensor.
>
> With a lot of little purchases on the debit card it adds a lot of time
> to reconcile the statement at the end of the month. I just find cash
> easier.
>
> ===
>
> Thanks for that. I never really make a lot of small purchases but if I
> did, I expect I would use cash too.
>
> I am not interested is using my phone for that though, the same as I
> don't use the wireless option on my card. I prefer to use my PIN.
>
> What do you mean by 'Samsung pay? Do you mean I could pay with my
> Samsung phone if I wanted to?
>

Yea, it is a Samsung program. You have to register a card with it and
the charge goes to the card.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 6/29/2017 9:19 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

> Your phone may already have the program, Samsung Pay, Android Pay or
> similar. You associate a credit card with it. Your phone has to be on
> but the program does not have to be open. You just wave the phone over
> the sensor and it is done.
>
> To activate the program your phone also must have security to open it,
> like a pin or fingerprint sensor.
>
> With a lot of little purchases on the debit card it adds a lot of time
> to reconcile the statement at the end of the month. I just find cash
> easier.
>
> ===
>
> Thanks for that. I never really make a lot of small purchases but if I
> did, I expect I would use cash too.
>
> I am not interested is using my phone for that though, the same as I
> don't use the wireless option on my card. I prefer to use my PIN.
>
> What do you mean by 'Samsung pay? Do you mean I could pay with my
> Samsung phone if I wanted to?
>

Yea, it is a Samsung program. You have to register a card with it and
the charge goes to the card.


====

Heh, I never knew)

Thanks



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On 6/29/2017 10:38 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

> Spent $121 at
> the grocery store last night and still don't have anything to eat for
> the meantime.

Yeah....what's with that? That happens to me all the time.
Snacky food here was much better when I let wife or (later on) daughter
do the grocery shopping. Seems like when women shop, there's always
snacks or quicky meals around.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>> ==
>> I very rarely use cash, I use my debit card. I wouldn't know how to use my
>> phone for payment. I am not saying it doesn't happen though.
>
>Your phone may already have the program, Samsung Pay, Android Pay or
>similar. You associate a credit card with it. Your phone has to be on
>but the program does not have to be open. You just wave the phone over
>the sensor and it is done.
>
>To activate the program your phone also must have security to open it,
>like a pin or fingerprint sensor.
>
>With a lot of little purchases on the debit card it adds a lot of time
>to reconcile the statement at the end of the month. I just find cash
>easier.

For small purchases I use cash unless it's something that I want to
retain a record, then I use a credit card, or I may write a check.
I don't have a debit card, I don't have an ATM card either. I know a
few people who constantly use a Debit card and ATM, they are always
broke before the next pay period. I often see people in the
stupidmarket who swipe 3-4 debit cards and all are rejects for lack of
funds, then they hold up the line further by using an ATM, no funds
there either so they leave without buying anything and the store has
to put everything back. I'm surprised at how many people live that
way.

wrote in message ...

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>> ==
>> I very rarely use cash, I use my debit card. I wouldn't know how to use
>> my
>> phone for payment. I am not saying it doesn't happen though.
>
>Your phone may already have the program, Samsung Pay, Android Pay or
>similar. You associate a credit card with it. Your phone has to be on
>but the program does not have to be open. You just wave the phone over
>the sensor and it is done.
>
>To activate the program your phone also must have security to open it,
>like a pin or fingerprint sensor.
>
>With a lot of little purchases on the debit card it adds a lot of time
>to reconcile the statement at the end of the month. I just find cash
>easier.

For small purchases I use cash unless it's something that I want to
retain a record, then I use a credit card, or I may write a check.
I don't have a debit card, I don't have an ATM card either. I know a
few people who constantly use a Debit card and ATM, they are always
broke before the next pay period. I often see people in the
stupidmarket who swipe 3-4 debit cards and all are rejects for lack of
funds, then they hold up the line further by using an ATM, no funds
there either so they leave without buying anything and the store has
to put everything back. I'm surprised at how many people live that
way.

====

The only time we use a credit card is if we are ordering something big and
it has been checked out.




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On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 2:08:26 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> dsi10yahoo.com says...
>
> > Well, it looks like I'm posting too much so I'm expecting a message from Google
> telling me that I've exceeded my quota any minute now -
>
> Yeah, dsil, you're SO at the cutting edge of internet technology.
>
> Janet UK
>
>
> >

If Google says that I'm posting too much, I'm probably posting too much.

On 6/28/2017 1:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> I used timers that turned the lights on and off in the bedroom and
> living room when I was away. Just plug it into the electric socket and
> plug the lamp into the timer. Set the timer. On at dusk, off at
> bedtime. On again in the morning, off during the day.

I get a laugh at the people who turn on the No One's Home alert
beacon outside the front door, burning all hours of the day and
night. What can I say, it's so obvious it amuses me. I always
know when this one couple has decamped for their Florida residence.

nancy

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 09:42:13 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 6/28/2017 11:09 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 20:06:15 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 4:52:35 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 6/28/2017 9:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was at Walgreens yesterday and commented on the contactless terminal. "Can people make payments using their phones?" She said she thought so. I told her it's kind a scary thing to do. One of these days, I'm gonna pull the lever and use my phone. My guess is that in 5 years or less, most POS payments will be made this way. Yoose guys better get a smart phone pronto.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are at least three or four programs that allow you to do that.
>>>> Another thing I've noticed, a lot of stores no longer require you to
>>>> sign when you make a purchase. Twice I paid $300+ and no sig reqired.
>>>
>>> I'd like to be able to make a payment using a smart watch.
>>
>> I want to make a payment by winking.
>>
>
>I would love a smart thingie that makes all my payments and charges it
>to Sheldon's bank account. Now that would rule! hehahh

Yes, that would help me forgive the bigot.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 6/28/2017 1:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > I used timers that turned the lights on and off in the bedroom and
> > living room when I was away. Just plug it into the electric socket and
> > plug the lamp into the timer. Set the timer. On at dusk, off at
> > bedtime. On again in the morning, off during the day.
>
> I get a laugh at the people who turn on the No One's Home alert
> beacon outside the front door, burning all hours of the day and
> night. What can I say, it's so obvious it amuses me. I always
> know when this one couple has decamped for their Florida residence.

:-) We have American neighbours who do that every year, when they shut
up their house and return to Florida for the winter. The night lights on
at their home is the signal they've flown, the house is empty, summer's
over.

Janet UK

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 5:10:02 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 20:06:15 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 4:52:35 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 6/28/2017 9:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I was at Walgreens yesterday and commented on the contactless terminal. "Can people make payments using their phones?" She said she thought so. I told her it's kind a scary thing to do. One of these days, I'm gonna pull the lever and use my phone. My guess is that in 5 years or less, most POS payments will be made this way. Yoose guys better get a smart phone pronto..
> >> >
> >>
> >> There are at least three or four programs that allow you to do that.
> >> Another thing I've noticed, a lot of stores no longer require you to
> >> sign when you make a purchase. Twice I paid $300+ and no sig reqired.
> >
> >I'd like to be able to make a payment using a smart watch.
>
> I want to make a payment by winking.

I want to make payments by using barely perceptible twitches of my facial muscles. Is that asking for too much? I don't think so.

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 9:39:27 PM UTC-10, sanne wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 29. Juni 2017 03:24:59 UTC+2 schrieb dsi1:
>
> > There's nothing that speeds up an old computer like throwing everything
> > away and starting with a fresh OS.
>
> I did that with my old asus eee pc - netbook, not much memory, small ssds
> then. Much too small even for xp soon, so it literally lay around
> for years. A few years ago, I installed ubuntu on it - perfect! Well, not
> completely, but a new life for a very handy small computer.
>
> > I suppose that's like throwing the baby out with the bathwater but
> > then again, it's a fairly hideous baby.
>
> Sometimes (rarely) it is allowed to come out - microsoft has the copyright
> on ntfs and the tools to fix problems with that file system fast.
> But I don't allow windows to phone home - no lan when it's on!
>
> Bye, Sanne.

I think you have the right idea. Those Linux distros will work fine on older machines. You're also right that they're not perfect.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:36:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:10:11 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> On 6/29/2017 10:38 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> > Spent $121 at
>>> the grocery store last night and still don't have anything to eat for
>>> the meantime.
>>
>> Yeah....what's with that? That happens to me all the time.
>> Snacky food here was much better when I let wife or (later on) daughter
>> do the grocery shopping. Seems like when women shop, there's always
>> snacks or quicky meals around.
>
>I bought a lot of staples. I've been letting the pantry run low so I
>bought a lot of stuff that was marked down that I didn't really need
>for anything in particular, but comes in handy when I do want to make
>something or another. I save a lot buying staples and ingredients on
>sale, then figuring out what to do with them later. The easiest way
>to blow money is to shop specifically for certain recipes.

It took me a while ro realise this wasn't about:

<http://www.dekori.ge/images/stories/virtuemart/product/image_13232.jpg>

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 10:07:08 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 2:32:40 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 9:49:07 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 23:54:29 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi10yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 8:05:36 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > >> >> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:6493986e-01a7-4f6d-9dd4-
> > >> >> I simply said that most of the posters here find the modern world
> > >> >> scary.
> > >> >> Either you agree with that or you don't. This isn't about you or me.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Nothing scary about it, just don't need a lot of it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cheri
> > >> >
> > >> >A lot depends on your age. The millennials and later generations don't
> > >> >quite see it that way. These guys aren't hooked on Windows - they use
> > >> >iOS and Android for their computers.
> > >>
> > >> If I don't use Windows I'm unemployed, but I can live without iOS and
> > >> Android.
> > >
> > > It doesn't matter what you or I use. For the first time since the 80's,
> > > more people are using cell phone based OSes than Windows. Things are
> > > going
> > > as we have planned...
> >
> > I have noticed that. I hate doing stuff on my cell phone. I got the Taco
> > Time (local chain) app so I could get discounts and free food. But then I
> > discovered that I have to pay using my phone. I'm not going to do that,
> > especially since when I do get their food. I almost always use the drive
> > through. I have seen people hand over their phones and Starbucks. Nope.
> > Not
> > taking the chance of someone dropping my phone. Plus I prefer paying with
> > cash. Cash is simple. I can see it in my wallet. I can see how much I
> > have.
> > And I can see when I need to stop spending. I know that cash is going the
> > way of the wind but... I'm a die hard.
>
> I was at Walgreens yesterday and commented on the contactless terminal. "Can
> people make payments using their phones?" She said she thought so. I told
> her it's kind a scary thing to do. One of these days, I'm gonna pull the
> lever and use my phone. My guess is that in 5 years or less, most POS
> payments will be made this way. Yoose guys better get a smart phone pronto.
>
>
> ==
>
> We have contactless pay at supermarket checkouts. You have to wave your
> debit/credit card at the terminal. I do have that facility on my cards but
> I prefer not to use it. I put my card in as usual and punch in my PIN. I
> have no knowledge of using my phone.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Mostly it depends on what kind of phone you have. My phone uses Android Pay.. You has to have the Near Field Communication (NFC) ability to use contactless POS terminals. I have a Robin phone which does. These are very capable, cool, phones that sell for around $150 unlocked. I bought 4 of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrsIDwn-QK8

On 6/29/2017 1:54 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...

>> I get a laugh at the people who turn on the No One's Home alert
>> beacon outside the front door, burning all hours of the day and
>> night. What can I say, it's so obvious it amuses me. I always
>> know when this one couple has decamped for their Florida residence.
>
> :-) We have American neighbours who do that every year, when they shut
> up their house and return to Florida for the winter. The night lights on
> at their home is the signal they've flown, the house is empty, summer's
> over.

You can't miss it. Burglar 101. Funny.

nancy

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 12:44:52 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:33:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:24:02 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:12:05 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsiyahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 5:40:01 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 9:28:48 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >> > On 6/28/2017 6:48 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >>> At home we use Winblows.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> You're all complaining about it and putting it down but... you're
> > > >> > >> using it!
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Weaklings!
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > You caught me. I can't stand up for myself. (Heh.)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > My husband uses CAD software that isn't available anywhere
> > > >> > > but Windows. At home, I surf the web and play solitaire, so I barely
> > > >> > > care what OS we use. Doesn't mean I don't recognize Windows as a POS.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > At work, I have to use what the company wants me to use, which is
> > > >> > > a mix of Windows and a handful of Unixes (Unices?)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Most of us use Windows for the same reason. It does everything I need
> > > >> > and was already on the computer when I bought it. Are other OS better?
> > > >> > Don't know, I never used them and never had an incentive to try others. .
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Why do you think it is a POS? Compared to other systems?
> > > >>
> > > >> It's fine for civilians. It's really painful for a programmer
> > > >> who is used to the power and simplicity of Unix. It's a resource
> > > >> hog on the hardware; relatively speaking it takes an eternity to
> > > >> run anything.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not alone:
> > > >>
> > > >> <https://www.marksanborn.net/software/10-reasons-why-i-hate-microsoft-windows/>
> > > >> <http://www.zdnet.com/article/so-why-do-people-hate-windows/>
> > > >> <http://www.pcworld.com/article/134819/article.html>
> > > >>
> > > >> It's telling that PCworld magazine hates Microsoft.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > >Everybody should hate Windows and Microsoft. What's not to hate? My guess is that you wouldn't care much for Unix if you were forced to use it with a endlessly buggy graphical interface that needed constant fixin'.
> > >
> > > For a user, the OS doesn't really matter. If you're computer literate,
> > > as I believe you are, you can make Windows work for you without a
> > > problem. Or Unix or Linux or Apple's OS or mobile stuff etc.
> >
> > I know how to handle Windows and hardware problems. These days I'm a casual Windows user so I don't have much of anything to do with the OS. I am a believer that you have to reload Windows every 30 months or so to keep it running snappy.
>
> You can believe what you like. My work PCs are running Windows 7 (more
> than 30 months) and XP (about 14 years) without an OS reload. My
> home PC is running Windows 7 since 2009 without an OS reload. All of
> them "run snappy".
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I wasn't talking about you. I've seen other people's PC and have seen how it all goes down. It's not pretty out in the real world. These computers take forever to boot up and every operation is sluggish. I say again. This is not about you. Your computer might be snappy but that don't mean much.

On 6/28/2017 6:57 PM, lucretia wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:49:26 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2017 5:38 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:49:43 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/28/2017 3:45 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:22:49 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/28/2017 12:15 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:13:28 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2017 2:04 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nothing scary about it, just don't need a lot of it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Exactly, Cheri. I don't need everything to be connected. In this case
>>>>>>>> I'm talking about smart phones and "connected" appliances.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would I need to be able to turn the lights on (or off) in my house
>>>>>>>> via a phone? If I'm going out and I know it will be dark when I return,
>>>>>>>> I switch on a lamp before I leave. No need to turn on lights using an
>>>>>>>> app on a phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Living in a house I might like to turn different lights on and off if
>>>>>>> I was away, to make it appear I was not away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used timers that turned the lights on and off in the bedroom and
>>>>>> living room when I was away. Just plug it into the electric socket and
>>>>>> plug the lamp into the timer. Set the timer. On at dusk, off at
>>>>>> bedtime. On again in the morning, off during the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> I usethose for convenience but I am referring to a house, if you want
>>>>> potential burglars to think someone is at home, the lights need to be
>>>>> different every night. You can't do that with timers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Of course you can. AM PM, different times and different lights in
>>>> different rooms. You can turn the TV on and off. Anything you can plug
>>>> into an electric outlet. No need for a "smart" anything.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> You believe they are so dumb they don't see a pattern?
>>>
>> All I can say is I was never burglarized when I was away from home.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Aren't you in a gated community or something?
>
Yes, I am now. But I lived in my last apartment for 12 years. When I
went away, either on business or a vacation, I just set the timers in
different rooms to lamps on and off at the times they normally would if
I was home.

Jill

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:23:26 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Thu 29 Jun 2017 02:05:44p, Bruce told us...
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:36:18 -0500, Sqwertz
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:10:11 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/29/2017 10:38 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Spent $121 at
>>>>> the grocery store last night and still don't have anything to
>>>>> eat for the meantime.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah....what's with that? That happens to me all the time.
>>>> Snacky food here was much better when I let wife or (later on)
>>>> daughter do the grocery shopping. Seems like when women shop,
>>>> there's always snacks or quicky meals around.
>>>
>>>I bought a lot of staples. I've been letting the pantry run low
>>>so I bought a lot of stuff that was marked down that I didn't
>>>really need for anything in particular, but comes in handy when I
>>>do want to make something or another. I save a lot buying staples
>>>and ingredients on sale, then figuring out what to do with them
>>>later. The easiest way to blow money is to shop specifically for
>>>certain recipes.
>>
>> It took me a while ro realise this wasn't about:
>>
>> <http://www.dekori.ge/images/stories/...ct/image_13232
>> .jpg>
>>
>
>Well, you can never have too many.

No, it's better to grab the opportunity. Who knows when staples will
be on special again.

On 6/28/2017 11:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:53:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2017 2:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 6/28/2017 2:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Everybody should hate Windows and Microsoft. What's not to hate? My
>>>> guess is that you wouldn't care much for Unix if you were forced to
>>>> use it with a endlessly buggy graphical interface that needed constant
>>>> fixin'.
>>>
>>> So you made a system that is better? I hear people complain all the
>>> time, yet none have made a better program. I'm sure they could or they
>>> would be happy to be able to get what is readily available.
>>
>> I find it funny dsi1 describes Unix as a "buggy graphical interface". LOL
>
> dsi1 is a computing supermassive black hole who thinks he's a type O
> blue giant star.
>
> Unix doesn't even HAVE a graphical interface. The operating system
> doesn't provide any sort of graphical display functions except for
> very low level access to the display adapters.
>
Exactly. Unix isn't "graphic" and was never intended to be.

>> Obviously he's never grepped for pids in his entire life.
>
> I've typed hundreds of thousands of Unix commands and I can't think of
> any situation where I've ever grep'ed for PIDs :-)
>
I had to do it sometimes at work in order to kill a process. Usually
something running in the background that needed to be shut down for one
reason or another.

> Most PIDS don't stick around long, but if I knew a current PID, a
> simple 'ps -fp <PID>' would probably tell me what I needed to know.
> Because it simpler than typing "ps -ef|grep <pid>".
>
> ObFood: After watching Master Chef tonight I had to make some late
> night scrambled eggs. The French style wet and creamy kind, served on
> a toasted English muffin with Romano cheese.
>
> -sw
>
Sounds tasty!

Jill

On 6/29/2017 5:57 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 29 Jun 2017 02:43:49p, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 6/28/2017 6:57 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:49:26 -0400, jmcquown
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/28/2017 5:38 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:49:43 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/28/2017 3:45 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:22:49 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You believe they are so dumb they don't see a pattern?
>>>>>
>>>> All I can say is I was never burglarized when I was away from
>>>> home.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Aren't you in a gated community or something?
>>>
>> Yes, I am now. But I lived in my last apartment for 12 years.
>> When I went away, either on business or a vacation, I just set the
>> timers in different rooms to lamps on and off at the times they
>> normally would if I was home.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> You're smarter than most.
>
Thanks for that, Wayne, but I doubt it. It's just common sense. My
car was parked out front, I didn't park at the airport. My parking
space was just a few steps from my frong door. The lights in the living
room were on at times when I would normally have them on. Ditto the
bedroom when I was getting ready to go to bed. Then out for the night.
Unless potential burglars were camped outside for days, watching to
see if I actually came and went, no one had any idea if I was home or not.

I once had a neighbor in the adjoining apartment (the apartments were
more like duplexes in a complex). They subscribed to the daily
newspaper. The paper carrier tossed them on the grass behind our patio
fences. Could have belonged to either of us.

She'd let them pile up. She was home alone with her 3 year old all day
while her husband was at work.

When I asked her to please bring in the newspapers, at first she thought
I was just being a mean, cranky neighbor. Uh, no.

I said look, if you don't read the paper either cancel the subscription
or at least take them inside. I'm at work all day and my apartment is
empty. You're at home alone with a *baby*! It looks like you're not
home, an invitation for someone to break in. What can I say, she was
young. She'd never even thought about it. After that, no more
newspapers piled up.

We became friends and watched out for each other. One day when I was at
work a guy showed up at her door claiming to be my brother. Said he'd
knocked on my door and didn't get an answer, could he use her phone?
She refused to take the chain off the door and didn't let him inside.
GOOD! Because it definitely wasn't my brother.

Jill

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:56:29 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Thu 29 Jun 2017 02:25:04p, Nancy Young told us...
>
>> On 6/29/2017 1:54 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>
>>>> I get a laugh at the people who turn on the No One's Home alert
>>>> beacon outside the front door, burning all hours of the day and
>>>> night. What can I say, it's so obvious it amuses me. I always
>>>> know when this one couple has decamped for their Florida
>>>> residence.
>>>
>>> :-) We have American neighbours who do that every year, when
>>> :they shut
>>> up their house and return to Florida for the winter. The night
>>> lights on at their home is the signal they've flown, the house is
>>> empty, summer's over.
>>
>> You can't miss it. Burglar 101. Funny.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>
>When we both worked odd hours we had random cycle timers on several
>indoor lamps that contually alternated their schedules. We had sensor
>triggered floodlights around the entire perimeter of the house, but
>they only turned on if sensing a moving object at least the size of a
>child. I don't know if it was good or bad, but I do know we never had
>a break-in or theft.

Lol I forgot about those, had them at my last house and it was creepy
to be awake when the raccoons triggered them all. Have to add, it
didn't bother them!

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:39:16 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Thu 29 Jun 2017 04:06:51p, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 6/29/2017 5:57 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>>> You're smarter than most.
>>>
>> Thanks for that, Wayne, but I doubt it. It's just common
>> sense. My car was parked out front, I didn't park at the airport.
>> My parking space was just a few steps from my frong door. The
>> lights in the living room were on at times when I would normally
>> have them on. Ditto the bedroom when I was getting ready to go to
>> bed. Then out for the night.
>> Unless potential burglars were camped outside for days, watching
>> to
>> see if I actually came and went, no one had any idea if I was home
>> or not.
>>
>> I once had a neighbor in the adjoining apartment (the apartments
>> were more like duplexes in a complex). They subscribed to the
>> daily newspaper. The paper carrier tossed them on the grass
>> behind our patio fences. Could have belonged to either of us.
>>
>> She'd let them pile up. She was home alone with her 3 year old
>> all day while her husband was at work.
>>
>> When I asked her to please bring in the newspapers, at first she
>> thought I was just being a mean, cranky neighbor. Uh, no.
>>
>> I said look, if you don't read the paper either cancel the
>> subscription or at least take them inside. I'm at work all day
>> and my apartment is empty. You're at home alone with a *baby*!
>> It looks like you're not home, an invitation for someone to break
>> in. What can I say, she was young. She'd never even thought
>> about it. After that, no more newspapers piled up.
>>
>> We became friends and watched out for each other. One day when I
>> was at work a guy showed up at her door claiming to be my brother.
>> Said he'd knocked on my door and didn't get an answer, could he
>> use her phone? She refused to take the chain off the door and
>> didn't let him inside. GOOD! Because it definitely wasn't my
>> brother.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
>It's good to have common sense, but it's also really good to be
>intelligent. I've always felt you are both.

Are you saying I've underestimated here all this time?

On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 00:13:53 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Thu 29 Jun 2017 05:01:25p, Bruce told us...
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:39:16 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>It's good to have common sense, but it's also really good to be
>>>intelligent. I've always felt you are both.
>>
>> Are you saying I've underestimated here all this time?
>>
>
>Probably. I don't know what you were thinking.

Damn!

On 6/29/2017 7:39 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 29 Jun 2017 04:06:51p, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 6/29/2017 5:57 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Thu 29 Jun 2017 02:43:49p, jmcquown told us...
>>>
>>>> On 6/28/2017 6:57 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:49:26 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/28/2017 5:38 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:49:43 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/28/2017 3:45 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:22:49 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You believe they are so dumb they don't see a pattern?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I can say is I was never burglarized when I was away from
>>>>>> home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> Aren't you in a gated community or something?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, I am now. But I lived in my last apartment for 12 years.
>>>> When I went away, either on business or a vacation, I just set
>>>> the timers in different rooms to lamps on and off at the times
>>>> they normally would if I was home.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're smarter than most.
>>>
>> Thanks for that, Wayne, but I doubt it. It's just common
>> sense. My car was parked out front, I didn't park at the airport.
>> My parking space was just a few steps from my frong door. The
>> lights in the living room were on at times when I would normally
>> have them on. Ditto the bedroom when I was getting ready to go to
>> bed. Then out for the night.
>> Unless potential burglars were camped outside for days, watching
>> to
>> see if I actually came and went, no one had any idea if I was home
>> or not.
>>
>> I once had a neighbor in the adjoining apartment (the apartments
>> were more like duplexes in a complex). They subscribed to the
>> daily newspaper. The paper carrier tossed them on the grass
>> behind our patio fences. Could have belonged to either of us.
>>
>> She'd let them pile up. She was home alone with her 3 year old
>> all day while her husband was at work.
>>
>> When I asked her to please bring in the newspapers, at first she
>> thought I was just being a mean, cranky neighbor. Uh, no.
>>
>> I said look, if you don't read the paper either cancel the
>> subscription or at least take them inside. I'm at work all day
>> and my apartment is empty. You're at home alone with a *baby*!
>> It looks like you're not home, an invitation for someone to break
>> in. What can I say, she was young. She'd never even thought
>> about it. After that, no more newspapers piled up.
>>
>> We became friends and watched out for each other. One day when I
>> was at work a guy showed up at her door claiming to be my brother.
>> Said he'd knocked on my door and didn't get an answer, could he
>> use her phone? She refused to take the chain off the door and
>> didn't let him inside. GOOD! Because it definitely wasn't my
>> brother.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> It's good to have common sense, but it's also really good to be
> intelligent. I've always felt you are both.
>
Thank you again. I don't consider myself to be stupid. But I certainly
was young and naive once. Weren't we all? Still, the newspapers (in
bright orange wrappers!) piling up would certainly indicate to any wanna
be burglar "no one is home".

Kind of like Nancy pointing out (and others have concurred) when people
go out of town they leave the porch light burning. For *months*. Huge
red flag.

Where I live now, there is a couple who live two houses down from me. I
always know when they're here. When they are here a small Japanese
style decorative wooden foot bridge appears in their front yard. When
they leave, it goes into the garage. Everyone on the street knows when
they're here and when they aren't.

At any rate, the timers for lamps worked when I was gone for any length
of time. I was never burgled. I do believe the neighbor cancelled
their newspaper subscription after I pointed out what to me (older) was
fairly obvious. It was also pretty obvious no one was reading them. LOL

Jill

On 6/29/2017 6:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:33:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:24:02 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:12:05 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsiyahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 5:40:01 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 9:28:48 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/28/2017 6:48 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At home we use Winblows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're all complaining about it and putting it down but... you're
>>>>>>>> using it!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Weaklings!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You caught me. I can't stand up for myself. (Heh.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My husband uses CAD software that isn't available anywhere
>>>>>>> but Windows. At home, I surf the web and play solitaire, so I barely
>>>>>>> care what OS we use. Doesn't mean I don't recognize Windows as a POS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At work, I have to use what the company wants me to use, which is
>>>>>>> a mix of Windows and a handful of Unixes (Unices?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of us use Windows for the same reason. It does everything I need
>>>>>> and was already on the computer when I bought it. Are other OS better?
>>>>>> Don't know, I never used them and never had an incentive to try others. .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you think it is a POS? Compared to other systems?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's fine for civilians. It's really painful for a programmer
>>>>> who is used to the power and simplicity of Unix. It's a resource
>>>>> hog on the hardware; relatively speaking it takes an eternity to
>>>>> run anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not alone:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.marksanborn.net/software/10-reasons-why-i-hate-microsoft-windows/>
>>>>> <http://www.zdnet.com/article/so-why-do-people-hate-windows/>
>>>>> <http://www.pcworld.com/article/134819/article.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's telling that PCworld magazine hates Microsoft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> Everybody should hate Windows and Microsoft. What's not to hate? My guess is that you wouldn't care much for Unix if you were forced to use it with a endlessly buggy graphical interface that needed constant fixin'.
>>>
>>> For a user, the OS doesn't really matter. If you're computer literate,
>>> as I believe you are, you can make Windows work for you without a
>>> problem. Or Unix or Linux or Apple's OS or mobile stuff etc.
>>
>> I know how to handle Windows and hardware problems. These days I'm a casual Windows user so I don't have much of anything to do with the OS. I am a believer that you have to reload Windows every 30 months or so to keep it running snappy.
>
> You can believe what you like. My work PCs are running Windows 7 (more
> than 30 months) and XP (about 14 years) without an OS reload. My
> home PC is running Windows 7 since 2009 without an OS reload. All of
> them "run snappy".
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Isn't it amazing how much dsi1 thinks he knows? My Windows 7 laptop
runs fine. I back it up regularly, because any sensible person would.
Never had to reload the OS. Or anything else, either.

Jill

On 6/29/2017 5:43 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/28/2017 6:57 PM, lucretia wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:49:26 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/28/2017 5:38 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:49:43 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/28/2017 3:45 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:22:49 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/28/2017 12:15 PM, lucretia wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:13:28 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2017 2:04 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing scary about it, just don't need a lot of it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exactly, Cheri. I don't need everything to be connected. In
>>>>>>>>> this case
>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about smart phones and "connected" appliances.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why would I need to be able to turn the lights on (or off) in
>>>>>>>>> my house
>>>>>>>>> via a phone? If I'm going out and I know it will be dark when
>>>>>>>>> I return,
>>>>>>>>> I switch on a lamp before I leave. No need to turn on lights
>>>>>>>>> using an
>>>>>>>>> app on a phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Living in a house I might like to turn different lights on and
>>>>>>>> off if
>>>>>>>> I was away, to make it appear I was not away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used timers that turned the lights on and off in the bedroom and
>>>>>>> living room when I was away. Just plug it into the electric
>>>>>>> socket and
>>>>>>> plug the lamp into the timer. Set the timer. On at dusk, off at
>>>>>>> bedtime. On again in the morning, off during the day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I usethose for convenience but I am referring to a house, if you want
>>>>>> potential burglars to think someone is at home, the lights need to be
>>>>>> different every night. You can't do that with timers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you can. AM PM, different times and different lights in
>>>>> different rooms. You can turn the TV on and off. Anything you can
>>>>> plug
>>>>> into an electric outlet. No need for a "smart" anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> You believe they are so dumb they don't see a pattern?
>>>>
>>> All I can say is I was never burglarized when I was away from home.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Aren't you in a gated community or something?
>>
> Yes, I am now. But I lived in my last apartment for 12 years. When I
> went away, either on business or a vacation, I just set the timers in
> different rooms to lamps on and off at the times they normally would if
> I was home.
>
> Jill

I have an under cabinet light in the kitchen. The fixture have been
changed over the years but it has been on for 36 years. Living room
light and a light over the family room door to the side go on and off
for many years too. When we go away I will set a bedroom and family
room timer.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 6/29/2017 1:54 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
>
> >> I get a laugh at the people who turn on the No One's Home alert
> >> beacon outside the front door, burning all hours of the day and
> >> night. What can I say, it's so obvious it amuses me. I always
> >> know when this one couple has decamped for their Florida residence.
> >
> > :-) We have American neighbours who do that every year, when they shut
> > up their house and return to Florida for the winter. The night lights on
> > at their home is the signal they've flown, the house is empty, summer's
> > over.
>
> You can't miss it. Burglar 101. Funny.

Beats me why they do because they know burglary/housebreaking is
rarer than hens teeth here.

Janet UK

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:00:37 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/29/2017 6:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:33:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

>>> I know how to handle Windows and hardware problems. These days I'm a casual Windows user so I don't have much of anything to do with the OS. I am a believer that you have to reload Windows every 30 months or so to keep it running snappy.
>>
>> You can believe what you like. My work PCs are running Windows 7 (more
>> than 30 months) and XP (about 14 years) without an OS reload. My
>> home PC is running Windows 7 since 2009 without an OS reload. All of
>> them "run snappy".
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>Isn't it amazing how much dsi1 thinks he knows? My Windows 7 laptop
>runs fine. I back it up regularly, because any sensible person would.
>Never had to reload the OS. Or anything else, either.

It depends what you do with it. If you only use it to browse and
email, you'll probably be ok. But if you often install and remove
stuff, and use all kinds of different software, a clean install every
now and then is a good idea.

It's also possible that you don't notice your computer is slowing
down, because it happens gradually. And maybe you're slowing down at
the same speed.

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:19:30 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:00:37 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 6/29/2017 6:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:33:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >>> I know how to handle Windows and hardware problems. These days I'm a casual Windows user so I don't have much of anything to do with the OS. I am a believer that you have to reload Windows every 30 months or so to keep it running snappy.
> >>
> >> You can believe what you like. My work PCs are running Windows 7 (more
> >> than 30 months) and XP (about 14 years) without an OS reload. My
> >> home PC is running Windows 7 since 2009 without an OS reload. All of
> >> them "run snappy".
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >Isn't it amazing how much dsi1 thinks he knows? My Windows 7 laptop
> >runs fine. I back it up regularly, because any sensible person would.
> >Never had to reload the OS. Or anything else, either.
>
> It depends what you do with it. If you only use it to browse and
> email, you'll probably be ok. But if you often install and remove
> stuff, and use all kinds of different software, a clean install every
> now and then is a good idea.
>
> It's also possible that you don't notice your computer is slowing
> down, because it happens gradually. And maybe you're slowing down at
> the same speed.

I do alright by my computers but as soon as someone else other than myself starts using the computer, all bets are off. I had my friend watch the office for me while I was working part time at another job - that's when shit began to happen. That's OK, I can accept that - the guy was working dirt cheap so I was quite prepared to grin and bear it - like a man.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:41:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:19:30 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:00:37 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 6/29/2017 6:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:33:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> >>> I know how to handle Windows and hardware problems. These days I'm a casual Windows user so I don't have much of anything to do with the OS. I am a believer that you have to reload Windows every 30 months or so to keep it running snappy.
>> >>
>> >> You can believe what you like. My work PCs are running Windows 7 (more
>> >> than 30 months) and XP (about 14 years) without an OS reload. My
>> >> home PC is running Windows 7 since 2009 without an OS reload. All of
>> >> them "run snappy".
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >>
>> >Isn't it amazing how much dsi1 thinks he knows? My Windows 7 laptop
>> >runs fine. I back it up regularly, because any sensible person would.
>> >Never had to reload the OS. Or anything else, either.
>>
>> It depends what you do with it. If you only use it to browse and
>> email, you'll probably be ok. But if you often install and remove
>> stuff, and use all kinds of different software, a clean install every
>> now and then is a good idea.
>>
>> It's also possible that you don't notice your computer is slowing
>> down, because it happens gradually. And maybe you're slowing down at
>> the same speed.
>
>I do alright by my computers but as soon as someone else other than myself starts using the computer, all bets are off. I had my friend watch the office for me while I was working part time at another job - that's when shit began to happen. That's OK, I can accept that - the guy was working dirt cheap so I was quite prepared to grin and bear it - like a man.

Maybe you could make an image and restore that when you come back.

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:56:48 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:41:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:19:30 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:00:37 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 6/29/2017 6:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:33:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> I know how to handle Windows and hardware problems. These days I'm a casual Windows user so I don't have much of anything to do with the OS. I am a believer that you have to reload Windows every 30 months or so to keep it running snappy.
> >> >>
> >> >> You can believe what you like. My work PCs are running Windows 7 (more
> >> >> than 30 months) and XP (about 14 years) without an OS reload. My
> >> >> home PC is running Windows 7 since 2009 without an OS reload. All of
> >> >> them "run snappy".
> >> >>
> >> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >> >>
> >> >Isn't it amazing how much dsi1 thinks he knows? My Windows 7 laptop
> >> >runs fine. I back it up regularly, because any sensible person would..
> >> >Never had to reload the OS. Or anything else, either.
> >>
> >> It depends what you do with it. If you only use it to browse and
> >> email, you'll probably be ok. But if you often install and remove
> >> stuff, and use all kinds of different software, a clean install every
> >> now and then is a good idea.
> >>
> >> It's also possible that you don't notice your computer is slowing
> >> down, because it happens gradually. And maybe you're slowing down at
> >> the same speed.
> >
> >I do alright by my computers but as soon as someone else other than myself starts using the computer, all bets are off. I had my friend watch the office for me while I was working part time at another job - that's when shit began to happen. That's OK, I can accept that - the guy was working dirt cheap so I was quite prepared to grin and bear it - like a man.
>
> Maybe you could make an image and restore that when you come back.

I kept the stuff I needed to be easily moved and I'd rather start with a completely fresh computer that only a reinstall can give you. What I recommend is that you keep your important docs in a single area, keep your drivers and OS on in a place where you can find it and just wipe all that stuff you don't need forever from your life! Most people won't do that because they feel an overpowering need to hold on to the past. That's the breaks.

On 6/29/2017 5:56 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 29 Jun 2017 02:25:04p, Nancy Young told us...

>> You can't miss it. Burglar 101. Funny.

> When we both worked odd hours we had random cycle timers on several
> indoor lamps that contually alternated their schedules. We had sensor
> triggered floodlights around the entire perimeter of the house, but
> they only turned on if sensing a moving object at least the size of a
> child. I don't know if it was good or bad, but I do know we never had
> a break-in or theft.

We have a flood across the front of the house, it was there
when we moved in and it's nice it isn't pitch black. The
previous owners installed floods all around the house but we
don't use them unless we need them for some reason, then they
are off.

The people behind me installed motion detector floods on the
back of their house, they do the same annoying thing I've seen
in other cases, go on when it's windy or just breezy. Day or
night.

Knock wood nothing goes on around here, most people don't
have security lights and no one breaks into their house, either.

nancy

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:36:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:10:11 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> On 6/29/2017 10:38 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> > Spent $121 at
>>> the grocery store last night and still don't have anything to eat for
>>> the meantime.
>>
>> Yeah....what's with that? That happens to me all the time.
>> Snacky food here was much better when I let wife or (later on) daughter
>> do the grocery shopping. Seems like when women shop, there's always
>> snacks or quicky meals around.
>
>I bought a lot of staples. I've been letting the pantry run low so I
>bought a lot of stuff that was marked down that I didn't really need
>for anything in particular, but comes in handy when I do want to make
>something or another. I save a lot buying staples and ingredients on
>sale, then figuring out what to do with them later. The easiest way
>to blow money is to shop specifically for certain recipes.

It took me a while ro realise this wasn't about:

<http://www.dekori.ge/images/stories/virtuemart/product/image_13232.jpg>

==

LOL



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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:23:26 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Thu 29 Jun 2017 02:05:44p, Bruce told us...
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:36:18 -0500, Sqwertz
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:10:11 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/29/2017 10:38 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Spent $121 at
>>>>> the grocery store last night and still don't have anything to
>>>>> eat for the meantime.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah....what's with that? That happens to me all the time.
>>>> Snacky food here was much better when I let wife or (later on)
>>>> daughter do the grocery shopping. Seems like when women shop,
>>>> there's always snacks or quicky meals around.
>>>
>>>I bought a lot of staples. I've been letting the pantry run low
>>>so I bought a lot of stuff that was marked down that I didn't
>>>really need for anything in particular, but comes in handy when I
>>>do want to make something or another. I save a lot buying staples
>>>and ingredients on sale, then figuring out what to do with them
>>>later. The easiest way to blow money is to shop specifically for
>>>certain recipes.
>>
>> It took me a while ro realise this wasn't about:
>>
>> <http://www.dekori.ge/images/stories/...ct/image_13232
>> .jpg>
>>
>
>Well, you can never have too many.

No, it's better to grab the opportunity. Who knows when staples will
be on special again.

==

lol You do realise though that fatty sw only ever cares about food ... food
and more food ...



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"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 10:07:08 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 2:32:40 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 9:49:07 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 23:54:29 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi10yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 8:05:36 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > >> >> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:6493986e-01a7-4f6d-9dd4-
> > >> >> I simply said that most of the posters here find the modern world
> > >> >> scary.
> > >> >> Either you agree with that or you don't. This isn't about you or
> > >> >> me.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Nothing scary about it, just don't need a lot of it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cheri
> > >> >
> > >> >A lot depends on your age. The millennials and later generations
> > >> >don't
> > >> >quite see it that way. These guys aren't hooked on Windows - they
> > >> >use
> > >> >iOS and Android for their computers.
> > >>
> > >> If I don't use Windows I'm unemployed, but I can live without iOS and
> > >> Android.
> > >
> > > It doesn't matter what you or I use. For the first time since the
> > > 80's,
> > > more people are using cell phone based OSes than Windows. Things are
> > > going
> > > as we have planned...
> >
> > I have noticed that. I hate doing stuff on my cell phone. I got the Taco
> > Time (local chain) app so I could get discounts and free food. But then
> > I
> > discovered that I have to pay using my phone. I'm not going to do that,
> > especially since when I do get their food. I almost always use the drive
> > through. I have seen people hand over their phones and Starbucks. Nope.
> > Not
> > taking the chance of someone dropping my phone. Plus I prefer paying
> > with
> > cash. Cash is simple. I can see it in my wallet. I can see how much I
> > have.
> > And I can see when I need to stop spending. I know that cash is going
> > the
> > way of the wind but... I'm a die hard.
>
> I was at Walgreens yesterday and commented on the contactless terminal.
> "Can
> people make payments using their phones?" She said she thought so. I told
> her it's kind a scary thing to do. One of these days, I'm gonna pull the
> lever and use my phone. My guess is that in 5 years or less, most POS
> payments will be made this way. Yoose guys better get a smart phone
> pronto.
>
>
> ==
>
> We have contactless pay at supermarket checkouts. You have to wave your
> debit/credit card at the terminal. I do have that facility on my cards
> but
> I prefer not to use it. I put my card in as usual and punch in my PIN. I
> have no knowledge of using my phone.
>
>
>
>
>
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Mostly it depends on what kind of phone you have. My phone uses Android Pay.
You has to have the Near Field Communication (NFC) ability to use
contactless POS terminals. I have a Robin phone which does. These are very
capable, cool, phones that sell for around $150 unlocked. I bought 4 of
them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrsIDwn-QK8

==

Four eh? One for each hand and a spare for each??? )) Thanks, but it
isn't for me. I am more than happy to place my card in the terminal and
punch in my PIN))

At least now I know what 'Robin' is so thanks for that))

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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44...

On Thu 29 Jun 2017 02:25:04p, Nancy Young told us...

> On 6/29/2017 1:54 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>
>>> I get a laugh at the people who turn on the No One's Home alert
>>> beacon outside the front door, burning all hours of the day and
>>> night. What can I say, it's so obvious it amuses me. I always
>>> know when this one couple has decamped for their Florida
>>> residence.
>>
>> :-) We have American neighbours who do that every year, when
>> :they shut
>> up their house and return to Florida for the winter. The night
>> lights on at their home is the signal they've flown, the house is
>> empty, summer's over.
>
> You can't miss it. Burglar 101. Funny.
>
> nancy
>

When we both worked odd hours we had random cycle timers on several
indoor lamps that contually alternated their schedules. We had sensor
triggered floodlights around the entire perimeter of the house, but
they only turned on if sensing a moving object at least the size of a
child. I don't know if it was good or bad, but I do know we never had
a break-in or theft.


Wayne Boatwright

==

Yes, they are excellent! Lurkers don't like a light coming on to show they
are there!


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