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>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>> No, I've never seen those I am not saying we don't get them but not
>>> that
>>> I have seen ... or if I have, I didn't know what they were)
>>>
>>> What are they like inside?
>>
>> Custard. Which is why we don't like them. We don't like custard.
>> ===
>>
>> Like normal sweet custard or are you referring to its consistency?
>
> I don't have a clue what normal sweet custard would be. Custard isn't
> eaten
> much here. Not any more anyway. In my childhood, my mom and my friend's
> grandma both made egg custard. Horrible stuff. I hated it. My friend and I
> were always playing tricks on one another. So when her grandma was left to
> watch us for the weekend, she told the woman that I LOVED egg custard, so
> she made a double batch and made sure to give me big portions all weekend.
> And since I had been raised to respect my elders, I tried to gag it down.
>
> We all each tried only one bite of the fruit and had to spit it out.
> That's
> how much we disliked it. It has been a long time since I had egg custard
> so
> not sure if that was exactly it but from all I've read about it, it's
> supposed to mimic custard in both taste and texture.
>
> ==
>
> I don't make it any more, but I used to make egg custard for tarts. For
> pouring I used to use Bird's custard powder
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird%27s_Custard
>
> Just need to add milk!

AFAIK, that stuff isn't widely available here. There are a few places that
sell imported foods that do have it. I was looking for it when I made
Nanaimo bars. I did find it but couldn't use it because of the eggs. I wound
up making some sort of pudding instead. Nobody liked the bars. They were
sickly sweet. I only made them because my mom kept raving about how good
they were and how she missed them. Said a coworker used to bring them to
work every Christmas. But then after I made them, she denied not only saying
that but claimed she'd never heard of them before and refused to try them

"Gary" > wrote in message
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> On 6/29/2017 6:23 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> We all each tried only one bite of the fruit and had to spit it out.
>> That's how much we disliked it.
>
> That not good. I have tasted non-desireable food before but never actually
> spit something out. Get a life. Be polite.

Be polite? There were three of us, standing near the wastebasket in our own
kitchen. We all had to spit it out. We will often do this if we are trying
something that we think we might not like.

"Gary" > wrote in message
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> On 6/29/2017 6:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >Same with black sapote fruit (chocolate fruit).
>
> Never heard of this. I'll have to google it later. ;o

FWIW, I didn't write that.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>> I don't know, but they are very common here and as I said, we had them a
>> lot
>> when I was a child. Always for 'bonfire night' ie Guy Fawkes night,
>> November 5th.
>>
>> http://www.bonfirenight.net/gunpowder.php
>>
>> We always made big bonfires and we young 'uns used to eat toffee
>> apples)
>
> Hmmm... Perhaps toffee candy isn't widely available here either? My dad
> used
> to buy Brach's Pick A Mix and there were some little log shaped candies
> that
> were labeled toffee. The only ones I liked were the chocolate. Similar in
> taste to a Tootsie Roll but softer. The others were a caramel color and
> they
> had a swirl of flavor inside. Mostly fruit. They were rolled up like jelly
> roll then cut in pieces.
>
> I have seen other toffee but it is usually labeled as British or English
> toffee. I even made some once and took it to work. My friend who is from
> England said it was the same as they got there. Had a crisp, caramel
> colored
> layer of candy on the bottom, then a layer of chocolate, then nuts on top.
>
> We also had Heath bars which was a bar of toffee dipped in chocolate. They
> may still be available. Don't know as I only buy candy bars if someone
> asks
> for them or maybe for Halloween, but I doubt these would appeal to most
> kids. I did like them as a kid but then I disliked the kinds of candy that
> most other kids liked.
>
> ==
>
> Your home made ones sound good

They were good. I used to make a lot of candy. Can't remember the last time
I made any now.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>> She has accused me from time to time of sadomasochism. I always assumed
>> she
>> was wanting an introduction. Shame I couldn't help, she might have been
>> a
>> happier soul
>
> That's funny!
>
> ==
>
> You think I am kidding??

No. I just think the way you phrased it is funny.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 03:43:27 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I only noticed the first one. Was talking on the phone to a friend and had
>>to put the phone down to whack the one on the wall by my computer with a
>>shoe. I do have a spider catcher but it only seems to work for certain
>>kinds. Did not work at all when a second one was spotted in the living
>>room.
>>Right after I disposed of the spider, I felt itching at the top and
>>outside
>>of my thigh and sure enough there was a bite.
>>
>>Two days later, I got out of the shower and noticed three red marks on my
>>lower leg. All marks are different sizes and shapes so that's kind of
>>weird.
>>They only itched and burned right after I noticed them so it is possible
>>that they may be something else. Not sure. I took a couple of pics of my
>>leg. I learned to do that. That way it is easy to compare to see if they
>>progressed.
>>
>>I spent more time earlier looking at pics of spiders only to find that the
>>one that looked like what we had are from Australia. It's not impossible
>>for
>>them to be that kind but still kind of unlikely.
>
> Where we live, we're eaten alive by all kinds of bugs during the warm
> months, which is 9 out of 12 or so: ticks, horse flies, mosquitoes,
> fleas if your pets get them, and various types of nasty ants. We also
> have plenty of spiders, but I've never had a bite that I was certain
> came from a spider.
>
> I mean to say that, here at least, there are more likely culprits than
> spiders. Could be different where you live, of course.

We don't have too many biting bugs here.

"Gary" > wrote in message
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> On 6/28/2017 10:31 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
> > Julie wrote:
>>> These don't look like flea bites and both cats have just been to the
>>> vet. So
>>> no fleas. I felt the first bite itching right after I killed a spider
>>> near
>>> my computer. The ones we are seeing are the same. All black and sort of
>>> thick/chunky looking. Perhaps 1/2" from end to end. Others have been
>>> posting
>>> pics of them on FB as they have them too but nobody seems to know what
>>> they
>>> are. I will do some more searching later. So far I turned up no spider
>>> known
>>> to this area that looks like this.
>>
>> I believe that spiders, as opposed to fleas etc., only bite in
>> self-defense, so to have many bites, you must have had many
>> confrontations with them that you didn't notice.
>
> I do agree with you. Spiders will only bite you in bed if it's under the
> covers and you move and it feels threatened. It's probably some other
> creature and most times it's beneficial to leave spiders alone...they will
> eat the insects that are biting you.

I didn't say that I was bitten in bed. The first time was in my computer
chair. I saw the spider, killed it, then felt the itch. I noticed the marks
on my leg after I got out of the shower. That's all I know for sure.
>
> - fleas: don't assume no fleas just because both cats have been to the
> vet. Look at the cat's fur carefully and if it has fleas, you will see
> them

There are none. I know how to check cats for them. You usually won't see the
fleas unless there are tons. You will see the "dirt" from them though.
>
> - bedbugs: as awful as it sounds, check your bedding carefully especially
> on seams. They only seem to come out at night while you are sleeping.

I did check. Saw nothing.
>
> - bird mites: I got an invasion of those a few years ago. Yard was
> infested with them and I spent 3 days crawling around on the ground
> painting foundation and retaining walls.

Doubtful as my feeders are gone and I try not to spend much time outside.
>
> Didn't know about them until too late so I carried them home on my
> clothes and got bit all over my body. They even got on both ferrets. It
> was a miserable 3-4 months for all of us.

Ew.
>
> Once they bite you, the bite mark and all the itching lasted several
> months. I spent that summer in hell a few years ago. Hundreds of bites on
> me. I got rid of the insects fast but the original bites itched like crazy
> forever.
>
> And you can't even scratch or you risk opening them up to infection. I
> went an entire spring and summer with very little sleep, entire body
> itching and all I could do was lay there and bear it. oh man.
>
> Doctor gave me anti-itch cream but it did nothing for me. He also warned
> me not to break down and scratch or risk infection. The only "scratch"
> relief was to take a super hot shower...the hot water simulated scratching
> without rubbing the skin raw. Nightmare on my street, that's for sure.

Mine don't itch any more. Actually the three on the lower leg never did but
there was a burning sensation. They are also flat. No bumps. The one higher
up is a bump. It's possible that whatever is on my lower leg aren't even
bites at all but Angela thought they were. I do have a variety of skin
problems that crop up now and again.

> wrote in message
...
> Gary wrote:
>>Bruce wrote:
>> > Julie wrote:
>>>> These don't look like flea bites and both cats have just been to the
>>>> vet. So
>>>> no fleas. I felt the first bite itching right after I killed a spider
>>>> near
>>>> my computer. The ones we are seeing are the same. All black and sort of
>>>> thick/chunky looking. Perhaps 1/2" from end to end. Others have been
>>>> posting
>>>> pics of them on FB as they have them too but nobody seems to know what
>>>> they
>>>> are. I will do some more searching later. So far I turned up no spider
>>>> known
>>>> to this area that looks like this.
>>>
>>> I believe that spiders, as opposed to fleas etc., only bite in
>>> self-defense, so to have many bites, you must have had many
>>> confrontations with them that you didn't notice.
>>
>>I do agree with you. Spiders will only bite you in bed if it's under the
>>covers and you move and it feels threatened. It's probably some other
>>creature and most times it's beneficial to leave spiders alone...they
>>will eat the insects that are biting you.
>>
>>- fleas: don't assume no fleas just because both cats have been to the
>>vet. Look at the cat's fur carefully and if it has fleas, you will see
>>them
>>
>>- bedbugs: as awful as it sounds, check your bedding carefully
>>especially on seams. They only seem to come out at night while you are
>>sleeping.
>>
>>- bird mites: I got an invasion of those a few years ago. Yard was
>>infested with them and I spent 3 days crawling around on the ground
>>painting foundation and retaining walls.
>>
>> Didn't know about them until too late so I carried them home on my
>>clothes and got bit all over my body. They even got on both ferrets. It
>>was a miserable 3-4 months for all of us.
>>
>>Once they bite you, the bite mark and all the itching lasted several
>>months. I spent that summer in hell a few years ago. Hundreds of bites
>>on me. I got rid of the insects fast but the original bites itched like
>>crazy forever.
>>
>>And you can't even scratch or you risk opening them up to infection. I
>>went an entire spring and summer with very little sleep, entire body
>>itching and all I could do was lay there and bear it. oh man.
>>
>>Doctor gave me anti-itch cream but it did nothing for me. He also warned
>>me not to break down and scratch or risk infection. The only "scratch"
>>relief was to take a super hot shower...the hot water simulated
>>scratching without rubbing the skin raw. Nightmare on my street, that's
>>for sure.
>
> Are you sure it wasnt ticks? I'm suprised you weren't injected with
> the antidote for the various diseases carried by the various types of
> ticks. New York State is infested with Deer Ticks (Lyme Disease),
> American Dog Tick (Rocky Mountain Spotted Fevor, Lone Star Tick (Human
> Cytic Ehrlichiosos - HME), Woodchuck Tick (Ixodes Cooki - associated
> with Powassan Encephalitis. However the same ticks spread to many
> other states too. Each season my doctor hands out broshures and
> wallet cards containing information and how to ID the various insects.
> During warm seasons I treat my cats with Frontline, just squeeze the
> ampule on the back of their neck once a month... it's trickier but I
> treat the ferals too, I lure them close with tuna and need to be fast.

I was bitten by a tick on Cape Cod. I had just come home from work. Had a
pair of golf shorts on. Was talking to my mom on the phone and then said,
"Ouch". Put the phone down for a minute then put my hand where then pain
was. Felt a bump. Scratched it and a tick fell off. I've since gotten a tick
remover. Never did get the bulls eye rash and didn't go to the Dr. Ticks
were not common in the Seattle area back then although I have read there are
some here now. Just not as common as other places. So I basically had no
clue of the dangers of being bitten.

"Gary" > wrote in message
news
> On 6/29/2017 1:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> A vet once said about our region: 10 months of the year, ticks love it
>> here. The other 2 months they like it.
>
> yikes!
> what is your climate there? Tropical? Semi-tropical. I don't know exactly
> where you live in AUS but I think it to be in the northern part.

I had a friend who was from Canada but moved to Australia when his wife got
a job there. He said they would often get slugs in their bathroom. Eek!

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:16:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Gary" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 6/29/2017 6:23 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> We all each tried only one bite of the fruit and had to spit it out.
>>> That's how much we disliked it.
>>
>> That not good. I have tasted non-desireable food before but never actually
>> spit something out. Get a life. Be polite.
>
>Be polite? There were three of us, standing near the wastebasket in our own
>kitchen. We all had to spit it out. We will often do this if we are trying
>something that we think we might not like.

It's an innocent custard apple. Like it or not, but there's nothing
offensive about it. Y'all were acting as if y'all were eating
surströmming or durian.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:14:23 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> On 6/28/2017 10:31 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
> > Julie wrote:
> >> These don't look like flea bites and both cats have just been to the
> >> vet. So
> >> no fleas. I felt the first bite itching right after I killed a spider
> >> near
> >> my computer. The ones we are seeing are the same. All black and sort of
> >> thick/chunky looking. Perhaps 1/2" from end to end. Others have been
> >> posting
> >> pics of them on FB as they have them too but nobody seems to know what
> >> they
> >> are. I will do some more searching later. So far I turned up no spider
> >> known
> >> to this area that looks like this.
> >
> > I believe that spiders, as opposed to fleas etc., only bite in
> > self-defense, so to have many bites, you must have had many
> > confrontations with them that you didn't notice.
>
> I do agree with you. Spiders will only bite you in bed if it's under the
> covers and you move and it feels threatened. It's probably some other
> creature and most times it's beneficial to leave spiders alone...they
> will eat the insects that are biting you.
>
> - fleas: don't assume no fleas just because both cats have been to the
> vet. Look at the cat's fur carefully and if it has fleas, you will see
> them
>
> - bedbugs: as awful as it sounds, check your bedding carefully
> especially on seams. They only seem to come out at night while you are
> sleeping.
>
> - bird mites: I got an invasion of those a few years ago. Yard was
> infested with them and I spent 3 days crawling around on the ground
> painting foundation and retaining walls.
>
> Didn't know about them until too late so I carried them home on my
> clothes and got bit all over my body. They even got on both ferrets. It
> was a miserable 3-4 months for all of us.
>
> Once they bite you, the bite mark and all the itching lasted several
> months. I spent that summer in hell a few years ago. Hundreds of bites
> on me. I got rid of the insects fast but the original bites itched like
> crazy forever.
>
> And you can't even scratch or you risk opening them up to infection. I
> went an entire spring and summer with very little sleep, entire body
> itching and all I could do was lay there and bear it. oh man.
>
> Doctor gave me anti-itch cream but it did nothing for me. He also warned
> me not to break down and scratch or risk infection. The only "scratch"
> relief was to take a super hot shower...the hot water simulated
> scratching without rubbing the skin raw. Nightmare on my street, that's
> for sure.

We've had bedbugs. It's pretty nasty. Those things were a big problem on
this rock a few years ago but the situation seems to have "stabilized."

My solution was to isolate those things from their food - us. I enclosed the
mattress in plastic for a few months. It might have been 6 months. I did try
some insecticides for bedbugs but the most effective agent was cheap rubbing
alcohol in a spray bottle which kills them within seconds. Just don't spray
the stuff near an open flame or you'll end up dead within seconds.

---

I have seen shows on TV about them. They can live in electrical sockets and
crevices of wooden furniture. Also did research about them when my friend's
adult daughter moved back home. The reason? Bed bugs at the adult group home
where she was living. My friend insisted that she bring only clothing and
personal possessions with her. No furniture. They bought new stuff. Took all
clothing to the laundry in trash bags then back to her house in new trash
bags, just in case.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:47:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Gary" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 6/29/2017 1:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> A vet once said about our region: 10 months of the year, ticks love it
>>> here. The other 2 months they like it.
>>
>> yikes!
>> what is your climate there? Tropical? Semi-tropical. I don't know exactly
>> where you live in AUS but I think it to be in the northern part.
>
>I had a friend who was from Canada but moved to Australia when his wife got
>a job there. He said they would often get slugs in their bathroom. Eek!

In Tasmania we had little centipedes and scorpions walking through the
house. It was a rental. You'd think it was a crack house, it had that
many cracks. No way to keep the buggers out.

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 12:50:41 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:14:23 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > On 6/28/2017 10:31 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > Julie wrote:
> > >> These don't look like flea bites and both cats have just been to the
> > >> vet. So
> > >> no fleas. I felt the first bite itching right after I killed a spider
> > >> near
> > >> my computer. The ones we are seeing are the same. All black and sort of
> > >> thick/chunky looking. Perhaps 1/2" from end to end. Others have been
> > >> posting
> > >> pics of them on FB as they have them too but nobody seems to know what
> > >> they
> > >> are. I will do some more searching later. So far I turned up no spider
> > >> known
> > >> to this area that looks like this.
> > >
> > > I believe that spiders, as opposed to fleas etc., only bite in
> > > self-defense, so to have many bites, you must have had many
> > > confrontations with them that you didn't notice.
> >
> > I do agree with you. Spiders will only bite you in bed if it's under the
> > covers and you move and it feels threatened. It's probably some other
> > creature and most times it's beneficial to leave spiders alone...they
> > will eat the insects that are biting you.
> >
> > - fleas: don't assume no fleas just because both cats have been to the
> > vet. Look at the cat's fur carefully and if it has fleas, you will see
> > them
> >
> > - bedbugs: as awful as it sounds, check your bedding carefully
> > especially on seams. They only seem to come out at night while you are
> > sleeping.
> >
> > - bird mites: I got an invasion of those a few years ago. Yard was
> > infested with them and I spent 3 days crawling around on the ground
> > painting foundation and retaining walls.
> >
> > Didn't know about them until too late so I carried them home on my
> > clothes and got bit all over my body. They even got on both ferrets. It
> > was a miserable 3-4 months for all of us.
> >
> > Once they bite you, the bite mark and all the itching lasted several
> > months. I spent that summer in hell a few years ago. Hundreds of bites
> > on me. I got rid of the insects fast but the original bites itched like
> > crazy forever.
> >
> > And you can't even scratch or you risk opening them up to infection. I
> > went an entire spring and summer with very little sleep, entire body
> > itching and all I could do was lay there and bear it. oh man.
> >
> > Doctor gave me anti-itch cream but it did nothing for me. He also warned
> > me not to break down and scratch or risk infection. The only "scratch"
> > relief was to take a super hot shower...the hot water simulated
> > scratching without rubbing the skin raw. Nightmare on my street, that's
> > for sure.
>
> We've had bedbugs. It's pretty nasty. Those things were a big problem on
> this rock a few years ago but the situation seems to have "stabilized."
>
> My solution was to isolate those things from their food - us. I enclosed the
> mattress in plastic for a few months. It might have been 6 months. I did try
> some insecticides for bedbugs but the most effective agent was cheap rubbing
> alcohol in a spray bottle which kills them within seconds. Just don't spray
> the stuff near an open flame or you'll end up dead within seconds.
>
> ---
>
> I have seen shows on TV about them. They can live in electrical sockets and
> crevices of wooden furniture. Also did research about them when my friend's
> adult daughter moved back home. The reason? Bed bugs at the adult group home
> where she was living. My friend insisted that she bring only clothing and
> personal possessions with her. No furniture. They bought new stuff. Took all
> clothing to the laundry in trash bags then back to her house in new trash
> bags, just in case.

These critters leave fine red marks on the bed sheets. I'm guessing that's caused by the bugs excreting red fluid which travels on a single thread through capillary action. At night they are attracted to the carbon dioxide on your breath and come out to feed. It's quite a trek for these little fellows! They are pretty interesting bugs.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:29:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 4:10:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:20:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >On 6/29/2017 1:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> >> A vet once said about our region: 10 months of the year, ticks love it
>> >> here. The other 2 months they like it.
>> >
>> >yikes!
>> >what is your climate there? Tropical? Semi-tropical. I don't know
>> >exactly where you live in AUS but I think it to be in the northern part.
>>
>> Semi-tropical. Further north it gets a lot hotter, but we also have
>> the humidity here that ticks like.
>>
>>
>My brother and sister-in-law keep guinea fowl on their property are
>are now pretty much tick free.

I've always heard they were the best solution for ticks.

Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 20:10:50 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:08:06 -0500, "cshenk" >
> wrote: >>
> >> > Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 16:50:53 -0500, "cshenk" >
> >> wrote: >>
> >> >> > Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 00:53:12 -0500, Sqwertz
> >> >> > >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 01:07:02 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> . . . as well as having some unusual produce items that
> are >> >> >> >> usually found in most supermarkets.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I keep making the mistake of reading 1 out of 50 of Wayne's
> >> >> posts. >> >
> >> >> >> > He's accelerated well beyond the standard, meaningless
> >> boredom of >> >> > Dave Smith.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I actually thought it was an intriguing post. I've been
> trying >> to >> >> think of an unusual produce item that can be found
> in most >> >> >> supermarkets.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Obvious typo there.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, I find custard apples rather unusual, but in the right
> >> season, >> you can find them in every Australian supermarket.
> >> >>
> >> >> So there you go.
> >> >
> >> > Well, having a little fun (no harm intended), it would wierd out
> a >> > USA person (I'd add Canada but we have somone who objects if I
> add >> > that). You don't have Grape jelly (or if you it, it's in
> tiny >> > jars).
> >> >
> >> > You can find that everywhere here, but not there. Heck, I could
> get >> > it in Japan! Just not OZ.
> >> >
> >> > Snicker!
> >>
> >> I wouldn't say it's common here, but isn't this it at the 2 leading
> >> supermarkets?
> >>
> >>
> <https://www.woolworths.com.au/Shop/P...2/aeroplane-pu
> >> rple-grape-jelly> >>
> <http://shop.coles.com.au/online/mobi...ne-jelly-purpl
> >> e-grape> >>
> >> Or do you mean (UK?) 'jam' when you say (US?) 'jelly'?
> >
> > Couldnt find it in Darwin, Brisbane or Townsville. 2001-2007. Odd
> > to me but it's not like they didnt have lots of other things that
> > would be usable in it's place. In fact, a lot more variation there.
>
> I guess what I posted links to, isn't what you meant. If you mean what
> I'd call "grape jam", then you're right. I don't think I've seen that
> here. Although I never look at that section much.

It's ok! I might have missed it too. It may be there *now* but at the
time, that HUGE isle that seemed to have 100 versions or more of
'Jellies/Jams' didn't have it.

Conversely, you'd be disappointed at the standard USA jelly/jam isle.
There is far less variety here.

Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might
take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as
apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall seeing
it.

--

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:54:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>It's ok! I might have missed it too. It may be there *now* but at the
>time, that HUGE isle that seemed to have 100 versions or more of
>'Jellies/Jams' didn't have it.
>
>Conversely, you'd be disappointed at the standard USA jelly/jam isle.
>There is far less variety here.
>
>Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might
>take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as
>apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall seeing
>it.

I've never seen it or heard of it, but I've only lived in Australia
for 12 years or so.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:53:37 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:29:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 4:10:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:20:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 6/29/2017 1:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> >> A vet once said about our region: 10 months of the year, ticks love it
>>> >> here. The other 2 months they like it.
>>> >
>>> >yikes!
>>> >what is your climate there? Tropical? Semi-tropical. I don't know
>>> >exactly where you live in AUS but I think it to be in the northern part.
>>>
>>> Semi-tropical. Further north it gets a lot hotter, but we also have
>>> the humidity here that ticks like.
>>>
>>>
>>My brother and sister-in-law keep guinea fowl on their property are
>>are now pretty much tick free.
>
>I've always heard they were the best solution for ticks.

We have chickens walking freely around the house. I don't know if they
do tick patrol too. We've seen them remove ticks from each other.

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > >
> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> >>> > Anyone familiar with them? They'll be putting a store in Mill
> >>> > Creek where a Safeway used to be. The pic shown in the ad looks
> >>> > like they have a huge produce section.
> > > >
> >>> No experience, they aren't local to here. I looked at one of the
> >>> flyers and liked the bulk bins from what I could see. The rest
> >>> didnt overy excite me but then we have lots of places generally
> >>> like that here. Some upscale, some less so, and some very
> >>> inexpensive.
> > >
> > > We have a lot here too. The people in Arlington are complaining
> > > that our area has all of the stores like this while they can't
> > > seem to get any. I do buy more produce than anything else so I am
> > > always interested in places with good selection.
> >
> > Give it a shot then? You may not find it all to your liking but it
> > may make a good second store for rthe fresh stuff if there's a
> > place with the simple other stuff along the same route.
>
> I do intend to go once they open. May not be a frequent shopper
> though as I rarely get out that way any more. Mainly only go because
> my hairdresser moved to a salon out that way or to go to Ace hardware.

It did look like they have a lot of fresh produce so may work well for
side trips! I'd try them out and see how it works.


--

Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:54:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > It's ok! I might have missed it too. It may be there now but at
> > the time, that HUGE isle that seemed to have 100 versions or more of
> > 'Jellies/Jams' didn't have it.
> >
> > Conversely, you'd be disappointed at the standard USA jelly/jam
> > isle. There is far less variety here.
> >
> > Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might
> > take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as
> > apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall
> > seeing it.
>
> I've never seen it or heard of it, but I've only lived in Australia
> for 12 years or so.

It's ok. You have a large selection that USA folks would go gaga over.

Carol


--

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:16:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gary" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On 6/29/2017 6:23 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We all each tried only one bite of the fruit and had to spit it out.
>>>> That's how much we disliked it.
>>>
>>> That not good. I have tasted non-desireable food before but never
>>> actually
>>> spit something out. Get a life. Be polite.
>>
>>Be polite? There were three of us, standing near the wastebasket in our
>>own
>>kitchen. We all had to spit it out. We will often do this if we are trying
>>something that we think we might not like.
>
> It's an innocent custard apple. Like it or not, but there's nothing
> offensive about it. Y'all were acting as if y'all were eating
> surströmming or durian.

It was repulsive to us. Just like asparagus or broccoli are to me.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...

>>I had a friend who was from Canada but moved to Australia when his wife
>>got
>>a job there. He said they would often get slugs in their bathroom. Eek!
>
> In Tasmania we had little centipedes and scorpions walking through the
> house. It was a rental. You'd think it was a crack house, it had that
> many cracks. No way to keep the buggers out.

When we moved to Cape Cod, our military housing wasn't ready so they tried
to give us temporary quarters. I walked into the kitchen and could see the
trees and plants outside through not the window but the wall! The house was
built of cinder blocks and it had cracks in it. I declined.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 12:50:41 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:14:23 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > On 6/28/2017 10:31 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > Julie wrote:
> > >> These don't look like flea bites and both cats have just been to the
> > >> vet. So
> > >> no fleas. I felt the first bite itching right after I killed a spider
> > >> near
> > >> my computer. The ones we are seeing are the same. All black and sort
> > >> of
> > >> thick/chunky looking. Perhaps 1/2" from end to end. Others have been
> > >> posting
> > >> pics of them on FB as they have them too but nobody seems to know
> > >> what
> > >> they
> > >> are. I will do some more searching later. So far I turned up no
> > >> spider
> > >> known
> > >> to this area that looks like this.
> > >
> > > I believe that spiders, as opposed to fleas etc., only bite in
> > > self-defense, so to have many bites, you must have had many
> > > confrontations with them that you didn't notice.
> >
> > I do agree with you. Spiders will only bite you in bed if it's under the
> > covers and you move and it feels threatened. It's probably some other
> > creature and most times it's beneficial to leave spiders alone...they
> > will eat the insects that are biting you.
> >
> > - fleas: don't assume no fleas just because both cats have been to the
> > vet. Look at the cat's fur carefully and if it has fleas, you will see
> > them
> >
> > - bedbugs: as awful as it sounds, check your bedding carefully
> > especially on seams. They only seem to come out at night while you are
> > sleeping.
> >
> > - bird mites: I got an invasion of those a few years ago. Yard was
> > infested with them and I spent 3 days crawling around on the ground
> > painting foundation and retaining walls.
> >
> > Didn't know about them until too late so I carried them home on my
> > clothes and got bit all over my body. They even got on both ferrets. It
> > was a miserable 3-4 months for all of us.
> >
> > Once they bite you, the bite mark and all the itching lasted several
> > months. I spent that summer in hell a few years ago. Hundreds of bites
> > on me. I got rid of the insects fast but the original bites itched like
> > crazy forever.
> >
> > And you can't even scratch or you risk opening them up to infection. I
> > went an entire spring and summer with very little sleep, entire body
> > itching and all I could do was lay there and bear it. oh man.
> >
> > Doctor gave me anti-itch cream but it did nothing for me. He also warned
> > me not to break down and scratch or risk infection. The only "scratch"
> > relief was to take a super hot shower...the hot water simulated
> > scratching without rubbing the skin raw. Nightmare on my street, that's
> > for sure.
>
> We've had bedbugs. It's pretty nasty. Those things were a big problem on
> this rock a few years ago but the situation seems to have "stabilized."
>
> My solution was to isolate those things from their food - us. I enclosed
> the
> mattress in plastic for a few months. It might have been 6 months. I did
> try
> some insecticides for bedbugs but the most effective agent was cheap
> rubbing
> alcohol in a spray bottle which kills them within seconds. Just don't
> spray
> the stuff near an open flame or you'll end up dead within seconds.
>
> ---
>
> I have seen shows on TV about them. They can live in electrical sockets
> and
> crevices of wooden furniture. Also did research about them when my
> friend's
> adult daughter moved back home. The reason? Bed bugs at the adult group
> home
> where she was living. My friend insisted that she bring only clothing and
> personal possessions with her. No furniture. They bought new stuff. Took
> all
> clothing to the laundry in trash bags then back to her house in new trash
> bags, just in case.

These critters leave fine red marks on the bed sheets. I'm guessing that's
caused by the bugs excreting red fluid which travels on a single thread
through capillary action. At night they are attracted to the carbon dioxide
on your breath and come out to feed. It's quite a trek for these little
fellows! They are pretty interesting bugs.

---

Hmmm... I thought what they left was poop.

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 2:49:52 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 12:50:41 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > ...
> > On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:14:23 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > On 6/28/2017 10:31 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > > Julie wrote:
> > > >> These don't look like flea bites and both cats have just been to the
> > > >> vet. So
> > > >> no fleas. I felt the first bite itching right after I killed a spider
> > > >> near
> > > >> my computer. The ones we are seeing are the same. All black and sort
> > > >> of
> > > >> thick/chunky looking. Perhaps 1/2" from end to end. Others have been
> > > >> posting
> > > >> pics of them on FB as they have them too but nobody seems to know
> > > >> what
> > > >> they
> > > >> are. I will do some more searching later. So far I turned up no
> > > >> spider
> > > >> known
> > > >> to this area that looks like this.
> > > >
> > > > I believe that spiders, as opposed to fleas etc., only bite in
> > > > self-defense, so to have many bites, you must have had many
> > > > confrontations with them that you didn't notice.
> > >
> > > I do agree with you. Spiders will only bite you in bed if it's under the
> > > covers and you move and it feels threatened. It's probably some other
> > > creature and most times it's beneficial to leave spiders alone...they
> > > will eat the insects that are biting you.
> > >
> > > - fleas: don't assume no fleas just because both cats have been to the
> > > vet. Look at the cat's fur carefully and if it has fleas, you will see
> > > them
> > >
> > > - bedbugs: as awful as it sounds, check your bedding carefully
> > > especially on seams. They only seem to come out at night while you are
> > > sleeping.
> > >
> > > - bird mites: I got an invasion of those a few years ago. Yard was
> > > infested with them and I spent 3 days crawling around on the ground
> > > painting foundation and retaining walls.
> > >
> > > Didn't know about them until too late so I carried them home on my
> > > clothes and got bit all over my body. They even got on both ferrets. It
> > > was a miserable 3-4 months for all of us.
> > >
> > > Once they bite you, the bite mark and all the itching lasted several
> > > months. I spent that summer in hell a few years ago. Hundreds of bites
> > > on me. I got rid of the insects fast but the original bites itched like
> > > crazy forever.
> > >
> > > And you can't even scratch or you risk opening them up to infection. I
> > > went an entire spring and summer with very little sleep, entire body
> > > itching and all I could do was lay there and bear it. oh man.
> > >
> > > Doctor gave me anti-itch cream but it did nothing for me. He also warned
> > > me not to break down and scratch or risk infection. The only "scratch"
> > > relief was to take a super hot shower...the hot water simulated
> > > scratching without rubbing the skin raw. Nightmare on my street, that's
> > > for sure.
> >
> > We've had bedbugs. It's pretty nasty. Those things were a big problem on
> > this rock a few years ago but the situation seems to have "stabilized."
> >
> > My solution was to isolate those things from their food - us. I enclosed
> > the
> > mattress in plastic for a few months. It might have been 6 months. I did
> > try
> > some insecticides for bedbugs but the most effective agent was cheap
> > rubbing
> > alcohol in a spray bottle which kills them within seconds. Just don't
> > spray
> > the stuff near an open flame or you'll end up dead within seconds.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > I have seen shows on TV about them. They can live in electrical sockets
> > and
> > crevices of wooden furniture. Also did research about them when my
> > friend's
> > adult daughter moved back home. The reason? Bed bugs at the adult group
> > home
> > where she was living. My friend insisted that she bring only clothing and
> > personal possessions with her. No furniture. They bought new stuff. Took
> > all
> > clothing to the laundry in trash bags then back to her house in new trash
> > bags, just in case.
>
> These critters leave fine red marks on the bed sheets. I'm guessing that's
> caused by the bugs excreting red fluid which travels on a single thread
> through capillary action. At night they are attracted to the carbon dioxide
> on your breath and come out to feed. It's quite a trek for these little
> fellows! They are pretty interesting bugs.
>
> ---
>
> Hmmm... I thought what they left was poop.

It's probably poop alright but it's not poop as you or I know it.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 17:49:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>
>>>I had a friend who was from Canada but moved to Australia when his wife
>>>got
>>>a job there. He said they would often get slugs in their bathroom. Eek!
>>
>> In Tasmania we had little centipedes and scorpions walking through the
>> house. It was a rental. You'd think it was a crack house, it had that
>> many cracks. No way to keep the buggers out.
>
>When we moved to Cape Cod, our military housing wasn't ready so they tried
>to give us temporary quarters. I walked into the kitchen and could see the
>trees and plants outside through not the window but the wall! The house was
>built of cinder blocks and it had cracks in it. I declined.

Yes, that would suck.

On 6/29/2017 9:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> It sounds hellish Would an anithistamine med not have helped?

"Hellish" is an understatement. All bites were within a couple of days.
They didn't fade away though for 2-3 months or so and the entire time
they itched like crazy.

I was miserable all that time and slept little.

I wouldn't wish that summer on anyone.

"Gary" wrote in message news
On 6/29/2017 9:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> It sounds hellish Would an anithistamine med not have helped?

"Hellish" is an understatement. All bites were within a couple of days.
They didn't fade away though for 2-3 months or so and the entire time
they itched like crazy.

I was miserable all that time and slept little.

I wouldn't wish that summer on anyone.

==

But .. did you try antihistamine?? next time, think about it.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 6/29/2017 8:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:54:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> It's ok! I might have missed it too. It may be there *now* but at the
>> time, that HUGE isle that seemed to have 100 versions or more of
>> 'Jellies/Jams' didn't have it.
>>
>> Conversely, you'd be disappointed at the standard USA jelly/jam isle.
>> There is far less variety here.
>>
>> Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might
>> take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as
>> apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall seeing
>> it.
>
> I've never seen it or heard of it, but I've only lived in Australia
> for 12 years or so.
>

You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores
forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking it.
Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly.

It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try.

"Gary" wrote in message news
On 6/29/2017 8:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:54:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> It's ok! I might have missed it too. It may be there *now* but at the
>> time, that HUGE isle that seemed to have 100 versions or more of
>> 'Jellies/Jams' didn't have it.
>>
>> Conversely, you'd be disappointed at the standard USA jelly/jam isle.
>> There is far less variety here.
>>
>> Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might
>> take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as
>> apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall seeing
>> it.
>
> I've never seen it or heard of it, but I've only lived in Australia
> for 12 years or so.
>

You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores
forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking it.
Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly.

It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try.

===

I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any

Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g>





--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Gary" wrote in message news >
> On 6/29/2017 9:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > It sounds hellish Would an anithistamine med not have helped?
>
> "Hellish" is an understatement. All bites were within a couple of days.
> They didn't fade away though for 2-3 months or so and the entire time
> they itched like crazy.
>
> I was miserable all that time and slept little.
>
> I wouldn't wish that summer on anyone.
>
> ==
>
> But .. did you try antihistamine?? next time, think about it.
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

That's a pretty good idea. I recommend diphenhydramine HCl. As an added bonus, it's a very effective sleep medication.

Ophelia wrote:

> "Gary" wrote in message news >
> On 6/29/2017 8:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:54:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> >> It's ok! I might have missed it too. It may be there *now* but at the
> >> time, that HUGE isle that seemed to have 100 versions or more of
> >> 'Jellies/Jams' didn't have it.
> >>
> >> Conversely, you'd be disappointed at the standard USA jelly/jam isle.
> >> There is far less variety here.
> >>
> >> Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might
> >> take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as
> >> apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall seeing
> >> it.
> >
> > I've never seen it or heard of it, but I've only lived in Australia
> > for 12 years or so.
> >
>
> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores
> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking it.
> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly.
>
> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try.
>
> ===
>
> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any
>
> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g>


It's kind of an old - fashioned thing, Ms. O., in the States it is a common Amish, German or "Pennsylvania Dutch" sort of thing; when I was a kid I remember my mom making apple butter, it was an involved process. Here's an example from the Amana Colonies, in Eastern Iowa:

https://www.amanashops.com/product/a...es-and-butters

"Packed in a classic pint size mason jar, this Amana Apple Butter size is perfect for recipe filling, or spread on your favorite bread. A fresh taste with an old time flavor!"


The Amana Colonies are near Iowa City, where I believe our poster Nancy2 hails from. It's a big tourist attraction, we visited often when I was a kid, it was nice day excursion. It was a "communist" society, a communal community, where everything was shared. Evening meals were served communally in a dining hall. That kind of life died out by the 30's, but the Amana Colonies produce lovely things, including furniture (highest quality and very dear!), woolens, meats/sausage, etc. :

https://www.amanashops.com/our-story

"OUR STORY

The story of Amana parallels that of America. A small community from Germany sought religious freedom and found it in the fertile Iowa River Valley in 1855. Its members lived simply, without vanity, and dedicated themselves to living sustainably. Everything was shared and everything they needed they produced themselves.

Amanas communal lifestyle ended in the 1930's, but it remains a tight-knit community of skilled craftspeople committed to quality construction. Through dedication to hard work, progress, and innovation, our businesses have operated continuously for more than 160 years.

We build products that express the individuality and creativity of the tradespeople who create them. Our furniture and woolen designs carry the mark of quality that blends past and present. And the recipes we use for our food products remind us that good things start around the table..."


Amana Hams are famous:

https://www.amanameatshop.com/

"We welcome you to the flavors of Amana!

We've been handcrafting meats since 1855. Hospitality and feeding friends and family have been signatures of Amana culture since the beginning. Using skills and recipes brought from the Old World, we continue to be influenced by our German heritage and Midwest traditions as we provide savory foods crafted with superior flavors.

Our Amana Meat Shop & Smokehouse smoked specialties include hams, bacon, summer sausage and cheeses. Plus we offer fresh-cut steaks, pork chops and a variety of premium gift boxes for you to choose from. We invite you to order Amana Meats for a special gift or treat yourself today!"

On 6/30/2017 2:06 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>
> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores
> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking it.
> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly.
>
> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try.
>
Apple butter is not something I grew up with. A decade ago I did run
across a glazed pork rib recipe that called for a bit of apple butter.
I bought a small jar, never did use it. I still have it. Never opened.

Jill

"The Greatest!" wrote in message
...

Ophelia wrote:

> "Gary" wrote in message news >
> On 6/29/2017 8:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:54:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> >> It's ok! I might have missed it too. It may be there *now* but at the
> >> time, that HUGE isle that seemed to have 100 versions or more of
> >> 'Jellies/Jams' didn't have it.
> >>
> >> Conversely, you'd be disappointed at the standard USA jelly/jam isle.
> >> There is far less variety here.
> >>
> >> Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might
> >> take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as
> >> apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall seeing
> >> it.
> >
> > I've never seen it or heard of it, but I've only lived in Australia
> > for 12 years or so.
> >
>
> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores
> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking it.
> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly.
>
> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try.
>
> ===
>
> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any
>
> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g>


It's kind of an old - fashioned thing, Ms. O., in the States it is a common
Amish, German or "Pennsylvania Dutch" sort of thing; when I was a kid I
remember my mom making apple butter, it was an involved process. Here's an
example from the Amana Colonies, in Eastern Iowa:

https://www.amanashops.com/product/a...es-and-butters

"Packed in a classic pint size mason jar, this Amana Apple Butter size is
perfect for recipe filling, or spread on your favorite bread. A fresh taste
with an old time flavor!"


The Amana Colonies are near Iowa City, where I believe our poster Nancy2
hails from. It's a big tourist attraction, we visited often when I was a
kid, it was nice day excursion. It was a "communist" society, a communal
community, where everything was shared. Evening meals were served
communally in a dining hall. That kind of life died out by the 30's, but the
Amana Colonies produce lovely things, including furniture (highest quality
and very dear!), woolens, meats/sausage, etc. :

https://www.amanashops.com/our-story

"OUR STORY

The story of Amana parallels that of America. A small community from Germany
sought religious freedom and found it in the fertile Iowa River Valley in
1855. Its members lived simply, without vanity, and dedicated themselves to
living sustainably. Everything was shared and everything they needed they
produced themselves.

Amanas communal lifestyle ended in the 1930's, but it remains a tight-knit
community of skilled craftspeople committed to quality construction. Through
dedication to hard work, progress, and innovation, our businesses have
operated continuously for more than 160 years.

We build products that express the individuality and creativity of the
tradespeople who create them. Our furniture and woolen designs carry the
mark of quality that blends past and present. And the recipes we use for our
food products remind us that good things start around the table..."


Amana Hams are famous:

https://www.amanameatshop.com/

"We welcome you to the flavors of Amana!

We've been handcrafting meats since 1855. Hospitality and feeding friends
and family have been signatures of Amana culture since the beginning. Using
skills and recipes brought from the Old World, we continue to be influenced
by our German heritage and Midwest traditions as we provide savory foods
crafted with superior flavors.

Our Amana Meat Shop & Smokehouse smoked specialties include hams, bacon,
summer sausage and cheeses. Plus we offer fresh-cut steaks, pork chops and a
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On 2017-06-30, jmcquown > wrote:

> Apple butter is not something I grew up with. A decade ago I did run
> across a glazed pork rib recipe that called for a bit of apple butter.

Wow! Fergot completely about apple butter, despite growing up with
it. There's also peach butter, plum butter, etc. I vaguely recall that
recipe with grape jelly, whatever it was.

Ever tried Jezabel Sauce? Mix equal parts, apple jelly,
pineapple/apricot jam, and horseradish. Knock yer socks off, yet
still quite tasty. Mostly used as a glaze fer ham.

nb

On 6/30/2017 3:31 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-06-30, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> Apple butter is not something I grew up with. A decade ago I did run
>> across a glazed pork rib recipe that called for a bit of apple butter.
>
> Wow! Fergot completely about apple butter, despite growing up with
> it. There's also peach butter, plum butter, etc. I vaguely recall that
> recipe with grape jelly, whatever it was.
>
> Ever tried Jezabel Sauce? Mix equal parts, apple jelly,
> pineapple/apricot jam, and horseradish. Knock yer socks off, yet
> still quite tasty. Mostly used as a glaze fer ham.
>
> nb
>
Nope, I never tried any of that. Mom wasn't big on making glazed ham.

Jill

On 2017-06-30, jmcquown > wrote:

> Nope, I never tried any of that. Mom wasn't big on making glazed ham.

I never even heard of it until a few yrs ago. Made some, loved it!

nb

Ophelia > wrote:
> "Gary" wrote in message news >
> On 6/29/2017 8:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:54:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>> It's ok! I might have missed it too. It may be there *now* but at the
>>> time, that HUGE isle that seemed to have 100 versions or more of
>>> 'Jellies/Jams' didn't have it.
>>>
>>> Conversely, you'd be disappointed at the standard USA jelly/jam isle.
>>> There is far less variety here.
>>>
>>> Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might
>>> take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as
>>> apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall seeing
>>> it.
>>
>> I've never seen it or heard of it, but I've only lived in Australia
>> for 12 years or so.
>>
>
> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores
> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking it.
> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly.
>
> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try.
>
> ===
>
> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any
>
> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g>
>
>
>
>
>

I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what apple
butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely seen it
in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's
something people make and can themselves, not buy.

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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx
> wrote:

>Ophelia > wrote:
>> "Gary" wrote in message news >>
>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores
>> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking it.
>> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly.
>>
>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any
>>
>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g>
>>
>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what apple
>butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely seen it
>in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's
>something people make and can themselves, not buy.

I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is
children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've
never heard of or seen apple butter.

So you're all making it up.

On 2017-06-30 1:46 PM, Janet wrote:

>> Julie should be asking her daughter. Today's 16 year old girls know
>> more about sex than their mothers, and likely are having more sex, and
>> more varied.
>
> What's the betting Julie only tried it once and didn't like it.
>

I have been trying hard to avoid posting about our resident drama queen,
but that one left me laughing.

"jinx the minx" > wrote in message
...

> I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what apple
> butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely seen
> it
> in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's
> something people make and can themselves, not buy.

I think availability depends on where you live. It's readily available in PA
and NY. You can get it here in WA, but I don't know that every store has it.
I was surprised to see that Walmart had perhaps the smallest selection of
jams and such that I'd ever seen. Plenty of counter space dedicated to the
stuff but it was still mostly strawberry jam or grape jelly.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:09:49 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-06-30 1:46 PM, Janet wrote:
>
>>> Julie should be asking her daughter. Today's 16 year old girls know
>>> more about sex than their mothers, and likely are having more sex, and
>>> more varied.
>>
>> What's the betting Julie only tried it once and didn't like it.
>>
>
>I have been trying hard to avoid posting about our resident drama queen,
>but that one left me laughing.

And you can't laugh without telling us.