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"Julie Bove" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
>> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... >> "Bruce" wrote in message >> ... >> >> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>> >>>"Bruce" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>>Ophelia > wrote: >>>>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
>>>>>>>>>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores >>>>>> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking >>>>>> it. >>>>>> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. >>>>>> >>>>>> === >>>>>> >>>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any  >>>>>> >>>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>>>>> >>>>>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what >>>>>apple >>>>>butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely >>>>>seen >>>>>it >>>>>in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's >>>>>something people make and can themselves, not buy. >>>> >>>> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is >>>> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've >>>> never heard of or seen apple butter. >>>> >>>> So you're all making it up. >>> >>>It all started in Germany. >>> >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter >> >> Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or apple >> treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. >> >> == >> >> Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it is >> like treacle. >> >> I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. > > Apple Butter is somewhat like a thick applesauce but darker in color and > IMO > doesn't taste the same. I can't exactly remember what it does taste like > as > it has been many years since I had any. > > == > > It seems it has cinnamon etc in it  Yep. Most apple things do. == Not in my kitchen Neither of us likes it!-- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
.45... On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:27:31p, Ophelia told us... > "Bruce" wrote in message > ... > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > > wrote: > >>Ophelia > wrote: >>> "Gary" wrote in message news
>>>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery >>> stores forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do >>> remember liking it. Spread on buttered toast just like you >>> would do with jam or jelly. >>> >>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. >>> >>> === >>> >>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>> >>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>> >>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what >>apple butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only >>rarely seen it in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store >>item). For me, it's something people make and can themselves, not >>buy. > > I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is > children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but > I've never heard of or seen apple butter. > > So you're all making it up. > > == > > Nahh, I trust jinx )> Apple Butter is commonplace in many cities and towns in the US. Even Smucker's, a national brand, manufactures apple butter is often found in many supermarkets. I've found that the best apple butter is produced in small towns by local producers. It is usually dark, sweet, and spicy. Unlike jellies and jams, apple butter does not keep as well, even under refrigertion. I'm not sure why that is. Many towns in the midwest have apple butter festivals in the Fall, where you can see it cooking in large copper kettles over wood fires. Here is one example: http://www.ohio.org/events/69th-annu...utter-festival Apple butter is also very popular in Amish conntry in various states. Since we moved to AZ in 2000, I've found locally produced apple butter in several country stores, usually sold in pint canning jars. I'm not sure why anyone living in the US has either not heard of it or has not been able to find it in one sort of store or another. I'm not overly fond of apple butter for spreading on toast or American style biscuits. However, I do susbstitute it for applesauce when I bake an applesauce cake, studded with raisins and nuts. Wayne Boatwright == What else would you use it for? Does it always have cinnamon? Not that it matters though, I stopped preserving a while ago. We simply don't use it as much as we used to. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44... On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:45:34p, Ophelia told us... > "Cheri" wrote in message news
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... > >> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >> >> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > > You probably wouldn't care much for it since most commercial apple > butters have cinnamon in them. > > Cheri > > == > > Oh ( Thank you!!!!> Yes, usually a LOT of cinnamon, and ofen a bit of clove. Wayne Boatwright == Please feel free to have my share -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Bruce" wrote in message news
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 09:55:00 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote: >"Bruce" wrote in message .. . > >On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 07:30:04 +0100, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >>"Bruce" wrote in message . .. >> >>On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >> >>> >>>"Bruce" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>>Ophelia > wrote: >>>>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
>>>>>>>>>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores >>>>>> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking >>>>>> it. >>>>>> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. >>>>>> >>>>>> === >>>>>> >>>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>>>> >>>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>>>>> >>>>>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what >>>>>apple >>>>>butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely >>>>>seen >>>>>it >>>>>in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's >>>>>something people make and can themselves, not buy. >>>> >>>> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is >>>> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've >>>> never heard of or seen apple butter. >>>> >>>> So you're all making it up. >>> >>>It all started in Germany. >>> >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter >> >>Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or apple >>treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. >> >>== >> >>Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it is >>like >>treacle. >> >>I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. > >I think this is it as sold in the Dutch section of Australian >supermarkets. They call it apple spread: > ><https://www.woolworths.com.au/Shop/ProductDetails/710055/the-dutch-company-apple-spread> > >== > >From Woolworths, eh? You still have Woolworths?? We lost all ours years >ago > >it is good to know it exists though. I will keep an eye out for it. Yes, Woolworths and Coles are the 2 big ones. And Aldi. == We have an Aldi but I rarely go there. I much prefer Lidl. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 7/1/2017 6:29 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... >> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
>>>> >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> ... >>> "Bruce" wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ophelia > wrote: >>>>>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores >>>>>>> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember >>>>>>> liking it. >>>>>>> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> === >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what >>>>>> apple >>>>>> butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only >>>>>> rarely seen >>>>>> it >>>>>> in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, >>>>>> it's >>>>>> something people make and can themselves, not buy. >>>>> >>>>> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is >>>>> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've >>>>> never heard of or seen apple butter. >>>>> >>>>> So you're all making it up. >>>> >>>> It all started in Germany. >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter >>> >>> Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or apple >>> treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. >>> >>> == >>> >>> Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it >>> is like treacle. >>> >>> I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. >> >> Apple Butter is somewhat like a thick applesauce but darker in color >> and IMO >> doesn't taste the same. I can't exactly remember what it does taste >> like as >> it has been many years since I had any. >> >> == >> >> It seems it has cinnamon etc in it > > Yep. Most apple things do. http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/apple_butter/ Apple Butter Recipe Prep time: 20 minutesCook time: 2 hoursYield: Makes a little more than 3 pint jars. Ingredients 4 lbs of good cooking apples (we use Granny Smith or Gravenstein) 1 cup apple cider vinegar 2 cups water Sugar (about 4 cups, see cooking instructions) Salt 2 teaspoons cinnamon 1/2 teaspoon ground cloves 1/2 teaspoon allspice Grated rind and juice of 1 lemon Equipment Needed 1 wide 8-quart pan (Stainless steel or copper with stainless steel lining) A food mill or a chinois sieve A large (8 cup) measuring cup pourer 6-8 8-ounce canning jars Read mo http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes...#ixzz4laGdqrmN |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.45... On Sat 01 Jul 2017 05:46:49a, Ophelia told us... > "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message > 9.44... > > On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:45:34p, Ophelia told us... > >> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>> >>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >> >> You probably wouldn't care much for it since most commercial apple >> butters have cinnamon in them. >> >> Cheri >> >> == >> >> Oh ( Thank you!!!!>> > > Yes, usually a LOT of cinnamon, and ofen a bit of clove. > > Wayne Boatwright > > == > > Please feel free to have my share > You would probably not like mulled wine then, as it almost always has a few cinnamon sticks and a few whole cloves in it. Wayne Boatwright == I think it might be safe to say that I definitely would not like mulled wine .... <g> -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.45... On Sat 01 Jul 2017 05:46:07a, Ophelia told us... > "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message > .45... > > On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:27:31p, Ophelia told us... > >> "Bruce" wrote in message >> ... >> >> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx >> > wrote: >> >>>Ophelia > wrote: >>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
>>>>>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery >>>> stores forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do >>>> remember liking it. Spread on buttered toast just like you >>>> would do with jam or jelly. >>>> >>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. >>>> >>>> === >>>> >>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>> >>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>>> >>>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows >>>what apple butter is (my generation and older, at least), but >>>I've only rarely seen it in grocery stores (it's more of a >>>specialty store item). For me, it's something people make and >>>can themselves, not buy. >> >> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is >> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but >> I've never heard of or seen apple butter. >> >> So you're all making it up. >> >> == >> >> Nahh, I trust jinx )>> > > Apple Butter is commonplace in many cities and towns in the US. > Even Smucker's, a national brand, manufactures apple butter is > often found in many supermarkets. I've found that the best apple > butter is produced in small towns by local producers. It is > usually dark, sweet, and spicy. Unlike jellies and jams, apple > butter does not keep as well, even under refrigertion. I'm not > sure why that is. Many towns in the midwest have apple butter > festivals in the Fall, where you can see it cooking in large > copper kettles over wood fires. Here is one example: > > http://www.ohio.org/events/69th-annu...utter-festival > > Apple butter is also very popular in Amish conntry in various > states. > > Since we moved to AZ in 2000, I've found locally produced apple > butter in several country stores, usually sold in pint canning > jars. > > I'm not sure why anyone living in the US has either not heard of > it or has not been able to find it in one sort of store or > another. > > I'm not overly fond of apple butter for spreading on toast or > American style biscuits. However, I do susbstitute it for > applesauce when I bake an applesauce cake, studded with raisins > and nuts. > > Wayne Boatwright > > == > > What else would you use it for? Does it always have cinnamon? > > Not that it matters though, I stopped preserving a while ago. We > simply don't use it as much as we used to. > > Yes, cinnamon is a key ingredient in apple butter. Most people spread it on toast or on American style biscuits or dinner rolls. I don't do much preserving. Only a few pints of marmalade from the sour oranges that grow here, and a few pints of bread and butter pickles. Occasionally I will make one jar of "new pickles" that are common in Jewish restaurants. It only takes about 10 minutes to make a jar, and only contains kirby cucumbers, salt, water, some mustard seed and dill weed. The jar goes right into the refrigerator and is ready to eat in a day or two. Wayne Boatwright == The last pickles I used to make was pickled onions. Similar way you are describing your kirby cucumbers. I think I might still have some in my store! Oh my when I think of the preserving I used to do ... Really the most I do now is dehydrating. Different 'kettle o' fish' eh? )-- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:59:28 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
> > > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... > > "Bruce" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >>"Bruce" > wrote in message > . .. > >>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>>Ophelia > wrote: > >>>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
> >>>>>> >>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores > >>>>> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking > >>>>> it. > >>>>> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly. > >>>>> > >>>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > >>>>> > >>>>> === > >>>>> > >>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any > >>>>> > >>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > >>>>> > >>>>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what apple > >>>>butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely seen > >>>>it > >>>>in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's > >>>>something people make and can themselves, not buy. > >>> > >>> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is > >>> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've > >>> never heard of or seen apple butter. > >>> > >>> So you're all making it up. > >> > >>It all started in Germany. > >> > >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter > > > > Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or apple > > treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. > > > > == > > > > Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it is > > like treacle. > > > > I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. > > Apple Butter is somewhat like a thick applesauce but darker in color and IMO > doesn't taste the same. I can't exactly remember what it does taste like as > it has been many years since I had any. > > == > > It seems it has cinnamon etc in it > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk Apple butter was a disappointment to me since it was nothing like butter. Mostly, it's applesauce. It's tough for an adult to get excited over applesauce. I don't mind the cinnamon though. It is a surprise that some people won't care the cinnamon. Cinnamon, ginger, and cloves, combined, are the basis for turning a tasteless squash into something wonderful - pumpkin pie. OTOH, some people won't care for ginger or cloves so maybe that's not so surprising. Last night I had a Pepsi Fire. It's a cinnamon flavored drink. I poured it into a glass and it's fiery cinnamon effervescence upon drinking caused me to gasp and cough every time I took a sip. Amazing! The liquid is dark red and is like ginger ale's evil twin. Some people might find a drink that causes one to hack, unappealing but I find it intriguing. I got 11 more cans of the stuff to find out if I like it or not - plenty of time. |
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Julie Bove wrote:
>Gary wrote: >>Bruce wrote: >> >>>> Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might >>>> take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as >>>> apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall seeing >>>> it. >>>> >>> I've never seen it or heard of it, but I've only lived in Australia >>> for 12 years or so. >> >> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > > I live in a fruit belt and there are a number of orchards nearby. Living in an apple orchard belt sounds a lot better than living in a fruit belt. lol >Apple butter is not commonly found in grocery stores but it is easy enough to > find at produce markets and fruit stands. You can be almost guaranteed > to find it in our fridge. My wife likes it, but rarely eats bread or toast > or the other things it might be good on. Personally, I wouldn't give you > two cents for it. I don't care for it. I tried some on a biscuit a few > weeks ago, wondering if my tastes had changed and I might actually like > it. I didn't. It didn't make me gag and I didn't spit it out. I just put > the top on the jar and put it back in the fridge. > >My FIL ate it on cottage cheese. My grandmother added apple butter to apple filling for pies and strudel, also swirled into coffee cakes, sticky buns, and raisin bread. Apple butter used to be a standard pantry staple... now Gary can say those brown stains in his panties is apple butter. heh heh https://www.justapinch.com/recipes/s...le-butter.html https://www.crecipe.com/candy+apple+butter+recipes |
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 14:39:24 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: >"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message 79.45... > >On Sat 01 Jul 2017 05:46:49a, Ophelia told us... > >> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message >> 9.44... >> >> On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:45:34p, Ophelia told us... >> >>> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>> >>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>> >>> You probably wouldn't care much for it since most commercial apple >>> butters have cinnamon in them. >>> >>> Cheri >>> >>> == >>> >>> Oh ( Thank you!!!!>>> >> >> Yes, usually a LOT of cinnamon, and ofen a bit of clove. >> >> Wayne Boatwright >> >> == >> >> Please feel free to have my share >> > >You would probably not like mulled wine then, as it almost always has >a few cinnamon sticks and a few whole cloves in it. > > > Wayne Boatwright > >== > >I think it might be safe to say that I definitely would not like mulled wine >... <g> One of my favorite candies is assorted spice gum drops... however I'm not too fond of the wintergreen ones. I also like licorice gum drops/jelly beans... any licorice candy, especially these licorice pipes: https://www.amazon.com/Wockenfuss-Ca...licorice+pipes |
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 21:18:00 -0500, jinx the minx
> wrote: >Julie Bove > wrote: >> >> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what apple >>> butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely seen >>> it >>> in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's >>> something people make and can themselves, not buy. >> >> I think availability depends on where you live. It's readily available in PA >> and NY. You can get it here in WA, but I don't know that every store has it. >> I was surprised to see that Walmart had perhaps the smallest selection of >> jams and such that I'd ever seen. Plenty of counter space dedicated to the >> stuff but it was still mostly strawberry jam or grape jelly. >> >> > >It was very common here growing up, but like I said, it's something people >make, not buy. I guess I take that homemade availability for granted. If >I wanted some now, I would make it, or get it from a relative that has made >some, not seek it out from a store. That is to say, I would never, ever >buy it from a store. Not under any circumstance. Likewise, lefse. That's silly... there are wonderful commercial apple butters and they cost a lot less than making one's own especially considering the time... this is my favorite: http://tinyurl.com/ycj87uc7 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Musselman...tter& veh=sem Wonderful recipies: http://www.musselmans.com/ |
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 20:26:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"jinx the minx" > wrote in message ... >> Julie Bove > wrote: >>> >>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>>> I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what apple >>>> butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely seen >>>> it >>>> in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's >>>> something people make and can themselves, not buy. >>> >>> I think availability depends on where you live. It's readily available in >>> PA >>> and NY. You can get it here in WA, but I don't know that every store has >>> it. >>> I was surprised to see that Walmart had perhaps the smallest selection of >>> jams and such that I'd ever seen. Plenty of counter space dedicated to >>> the >>> stuff but it was still mostly strawberry jam or grape jelly. >>> >>> >> >> It was very common here growing up, but like I said, it's something people >> make, not buy. I guess I take that homemade availability for granted. >> If >> I wanted some now, I would make it, or get it from a relative that has >> made >> some, not seek it out from a store. That is to say, I would never, ever >> buy it from a store. Not under any circumstance. Likewise, lefse. > >I do remember buying lefse some years ago. Do you mean "Lekvar"? Lekvar is prune butter, used to fill prune Danish etc. https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...l_3rg8luvliu_b Lefse is a type of Norwegian flat bread: http://allrecipes.com/recipe/18082/norwegian-lefse/ |
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Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > > wrote: > > >Ophelia > wrote: > >> "Gary" wrote in message news
> >> > >> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery > stores >> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do > remember liking it. >> Spread on buttered toast just like you would > do with jam or jelly. >> > >> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > >> > >> === > >> > >> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any > >> > >> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > >> > > I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what > > apple butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only > > rarely seen it in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store > > item). For me, it's something people make and can themselves, not > > buy. > > I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is > children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've > never heard of or seen apple butter. > > So you're all making it up. LOL, no. We aren't making it up. It's a simple thing that at least in southern USA is pretty common on the shelves. If it helps, the term 'butter' in the title has more to do with how it spreads. Think Vegemite and Nutella as the properties being close to how it spreads. Carol -- |
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Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> "Bruce" wrote in message > ... > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > > > > >"Bruce" > wrote in message > > ... > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > > wrote: > > > > >>>Ophelia > wrote: > > > > > "Gary" wrote in message news
> > > > > > > > > > You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery > > > > > stores forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do > > > > > remember liking it. Spread on buttered toast just like you > > > > > would do with jam or jelly. > > > > > > > > > > It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > > > > > > > > > > === > > > > > > > > > > I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any > > > > > > > > > > Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > > > > > > > > > I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows > > > > what apple butter is (my generation and older, at least), but > > > > I've only rarely seen it > > > > in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For > > > > me, it's something people make and can themselves, not buy. > > > > > > I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is > > > children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but > > > I've never heard of or seen apple butter. > > > > > > So you're all making it up. > > > > It all started in Germany. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter > > Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or apple > treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. > > == > > Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it> is like treacle. > > I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. Don't worry, his Applestroop is not the same thing at all. Applestroop is simply a related product made from apples. -- |
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Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 07:30:04 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > > > "Bruce" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > > > > > > >>"Bruce" > wrote in message > > > ... > >>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > >>> > wrote: > > > > > >>>>Ophelia > wrote: > >>>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
> > > > > > > >>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery > stores >>>>> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do > remember liking it. >>>>> Spread on buttered toast just like you > would do with jam or jelly. > > > > > > > >>>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > > > > > > > >>>>> === > > > > > > > >>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any > > > > > > > >>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > > > > > > > > > > > I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows > > > > > what apple butter is (my generation and older, at least), but > > > > > I've only rarely seen it > > > > > in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For > > > > > me, it's something people make and can themselves, not buy. > > > > > >>> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is > >>> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but > I've >>> never heard of or seen apple butter. > > > > > >>> So you're all making it up. > > > > > > It all started in Germany. > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter > > > > Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or > > apple treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. > > > > == > > > > Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it> > is like treacle. > > > > I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. > > I think this is it as sold in the Dutch section of Australian > supermarkets. They call it apple spread: > > <https://www.woolworths.com.au/Shop/P...5/the-dutch-co > mpany-apple-spread> It might be! No way to tell. -- |
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Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> "Bruce" wrote in message > ... > > On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 07:30:04 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > > > "Bruce" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > > > > > > >>"Bruce" > wrote in message > > > ... > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > > wrote: > > > > > >>>>Ophelia > wrote: > > > > > > "Gary" wrote in message news
> > > > > > > > > > > > You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa > > > > > > grocery stores forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years > > > > > > but I do remember liking it. Spread on buttered toast > > > > > > just like you would do with jam or jelly. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > > > > > > > > > > > > === > > > > > > > > > > > > I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > > > > > > > > > > > I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows > > > > > what apple butter is (my generation and older, at least), but > > > > > I've only rarely seen it > > > > > in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For > > > > > me, it's something people make and can themselves, not buy. > > > > > > > > I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce > > > > is children's second most popular food item after mother's > > > > milk, but I've never heard of or seen apple butter. > > > > > > > > So you're all making it up. > > > > > > It all started in Germany. > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter > > > > Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or > > apple treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. > > > > == > > > > Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it> > is like treacle. > > > > I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. > > I think this is it as sold in the Dutch section of Australian > supermarkets. They call it apple spread: > > <https://www.woolworths.com.au/Shop/P...5/the-dutch-co > mpany-apple-spread> > > == > > From Woolworths, eh? You still have Woolworths?? We lost all ours > years ago > > it is good to know it exists though. I will keep an eye out for it. It's actually not related, just has the same name. Quite popular there! -- |
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Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
> > > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... > > "Bruce" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > > > > > > >>"Bruce" > wrote in message > > > ... > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > > wrote: > > > > > >>>>Ophelia > wrote: > > > > > > "Gary" wrote in message news
> > > > > > > > > > > > You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa > > > > > > grocery stores forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years > > > > > > but I do remember liking it. Spread on buttered toast > > > > > > just like you would do with jam or jelly. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > > > > > > > > > > > > === > > > > > > > > > > > > I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > > > > > > > > > > > I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows > > > > > what apple butter is (my generation and older, at least), but > > > > > I've only rarely seen it > > > > > in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For > > > > > me, it's something people make and can themselves, not buy. > > > > > > > > I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce > > > > is children's second most popular food item after mother's > > > > milk, but I've never heard of or seen apple butter. > > > > > > > > So you're all making it up. > > > > > > It all started in Germany. > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter > > > > Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or > > apple treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. > > > > == > > > > Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it> > is like treacle. > > > > I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. > > Apple Butter is somewhat like a thick applesauce but darker in color > and IMO doesn't taste the same. I can't exactly remember what it does > taste like as it has been many years since I had any. > > == > > It seems it has cinnamon etc in it Some do, some do not. Cloves are pretty common as well as Anise. -- |
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"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:59:28 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
>> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... > > "Bruce" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >>"Bruce" > wrote in message > . .. > >>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>>Ophelia > wrote: > >>>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
> >>>>>> >>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores > >>>>> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking > >>>>> it. > >>>>> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly. > >>>>> > >>>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > >>>>> > >>>>> === > >>>>> > >>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any > >>>>> > >>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > >>>>> > >>>>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what > >>>>apple > >>>>butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely > >>>>seen > >>>>it > >>>>in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's > >>>>something people make and can themselves, not buy. > >>> > >>> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is > >>> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've > >>> never heard of or seen apple butter. > >>> > >>> So you're all making it up. > >> > >>It all started in Germany. > >> > >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter > > > > Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or apple > > treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. > > > > == > > > > Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it is> > like treacle. > > > > I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. > > Apple Butter is somewhat like a thick applesauce but darker in color and > IMO > doesn't taste the same. I can't exactly remember what it does taste like > as > it has been many years since I had any. > > == > > It seems it has cinnamon etc in it > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk Apple butter was a disappointment to me since it was nothing like butter. Mostly, it's applesauce. It's tough for an adult to get excited over applesauce. I don't mind the cinnamon though. It is a surprise that some people won't care the cinnamon. Cinnamon, ginger, and cloves, combined, are the basis for turning a tasteless squash into something wonderful - pumpkin pie. OTOH, some people won't care for ginger or cloves so maybe that's not so surprising. Last night I had a Pepsi Fire. It's a cinnamon flavored drink. I poured it into a glass and it's fiery cinnamon effervescence upon drinking caused me to gasp and cough every time I took a sip. Amazing! The liquid is dark red and is like ginger ale's evil twin. Some people might find a drink that causes one to hack, unappealing but I find it intriguing. I got 11 more cans of the stuff to find out if I like it or not - plenty of time. == I like regular apple sauce - plain and it goes nicely with pork! Enjoy your Pepsi ... )-- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"dsi1" > wrote in message ... On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:59:28 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
>> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... > > "Bruce" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >>"Bruce" > wrote in message > . .. > >>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>>Ophelia > wrote: > >>>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
> >>>>>> >>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores > >>>>> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking > >>>>> it. > >>>>> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly. > >>>>> > >>>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > >>>>> > >>>>> === > >>>>> > >>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any > >>>>> > >>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > >>>>> > >>>>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what > >>>>apple > >>>>butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely > >>>>seen > >>>>it > >>>>in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's > >>>>something people make and can themselves, not buy. > >>> > >>> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is > >>> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've > >>> never heard of or seen apple butter. > >>> > >>> So you're all making it up. > >> > >>It all started in Germany. > >> > >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter > > > > Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or apple > > treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. > > > > == > > > > Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it is> > like treacle. > > > > I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. > > Apple Butter is somewhat like a thick applesauce but darker in color and > IMO > doesn't taste the same. I can't exactly remember what it does taste like > as > it has been many years since I had any. > > == > > It seems it has cinnamon etc in it > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk Apple butter was a disappointment to me since it was nothing like butter. Mostly, it's applesauce. It's tough for an adult to get excited over applesauce. I don't mind the cinnamon though. It is a surprise that some people won't care the cinnamon. Cinnamon, ginger, and cloves, combined, are the basis for turning a tasteless squash into something wonderful - pumpkin pie. OTOH, some people won't care for ginger or cloves so maybe that's not so surprising. Last night I had a Pepsi Fire. It's a cinnamon flavored drink. I poured it into a glass and it's fiery cinnamon effervescence upon drinking caused me to gasp and cough every time I took a sip. Amazing! The liquid is dark red and is like ginger ale's evil twin. Some people might find a drink that causes one to hack, unappealing but I find it intriguing. I got 11 more cans of the stuff to find out if I like it or not - plenty of time. --- The one thing that gets me is nutmeg. I was fine with it until my dad brought home a whole apple pie left over from a potluck at work. He said the guy's wife made two. The first one was barely touched and this one was still intact. At first bite, we knew why. There was so much nutmeg in the thing, the filling as was gritty, dark brown, and it bit back. I still use nutmeg on occasion but have to be very careful. Any more than a pinch is too much for me now. |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message .45... > On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:27:31p, Ophelia told us... > >> "Bruce" wrote in message >> ... >> >> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx >> > wrote: >> >>>Ophelia > wrote: >>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
>>>>>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery >>>> stores forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do >>>> remember liking it. Spread on buttered toast just like you >>>> would do with jam or jelly. >>>> >>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. >>>> >>>> === >>>> >>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>> >>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>>> >>>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what >>>apple butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only >>>rarely seen it in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store >>>item). For me, it's something people make and can themselves, not >>>buy. >> >> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is >> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but >> I've never heard of or seen apple butter. >> >> So you're all making it up. >> >> == >> >> Nahh, I trust jinx )>> > > Apple Butter is commonplace in many cities and towns in the US. Even > Smucker's, a national brand, manufactures apple butter is often found > in many supermarkets. I've found that the best apple butter is > produced in small towns by local producers. It is usually dark, > sweet, and spicy. Unlike jellies and jams, apple butter does not > keep as well, even under refrigertion. I'm not sure why that is. > Many towns in the midwest have apple butter festivals in the Fall, > where you can see it cooking in large copper kettles over wood fires. > Here is one example: > > http://www.ohio.org/events/69th-annu...utter-festival > > Apple butter is also very popular in Amish conntry in various states. > > Since we moved to AZ in 2000, I've found locally produced apple > butter in several country stores, usually sold in pint canning jars. > > I'm not sure why anyone living in the US has either not heard of it > or has not been able to find it in one sort of store or another. > > I'm not overly fond of apple butter for spreading on toast or > American style biscuits. However, I do susbstitute it for applesauce > when I bake an applesauce cake, studded with raisins and nuts. I don't think it's commonly eaten. I did make it once as a child. And I have had it in restaurants in PA. Other than that, we never had it at home and I've never seen it in any restaurants here. |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > == > > We have an Aldi but I rarely go there. I much prefer Lidl. We are getting Lidl in this country. Not here though. Not yet anyway... |
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"cshenk" > wrote in message ... > LOL, no. We aren't making it up. It's a simple thing that at least in > southern USA is pretty common on the shelves. If it helps, the term > 'butter' in the title has more to do with how it spreads. Think > Vegemite and Nutella as the properties being close to how it spreads. I remember an episode of The Waltons. They sat down to breakfast and the kids were sad because there was no butter. There was no butter because they had to sell the cow. Then one of the adults (forget which one) announced that they still had grandma's apple butter! I think in the old days they came up with ways to preserve all that they could so as not to waste the food. Chow chow used to be a common thing too. And watermelon pickles. You can still get these things or even make them but they're not common like they used to be. My dad said his grandma always had pickles on the table. Why? They always had tons of them. Might not always be cucumbers but there was always a jar of pickled something or other. If the meal didn't contain enough food to fill you up, you then ate some pickles. |
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:22:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > >> == >> >> We have an Aldi but I rarely go there. I much prefer Lidl. > >We are getting Lidl in this country. Not here though. Not yet anyway... Same here, I believe. |
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On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 12:12:16 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx >> > wrote: >> >> >Ophelia > wrote: >> >> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >> >> >> >> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >> >> >> > I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what >> > apple butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only >> > rarely seen it in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store >> > item). For me, it's something people make and can themselves, not >> > buy. >> >> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is >> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've >> never heard of or seen apple butter. >> >> So you're all making it up. > >LOL, no. We aren't making it up. It's a simple thing that at least in >southern USA is pretty common on the shelves. If it helps, the term >'butter' in the title has more to do with how it spreads. Think >Vegemite and Nutella as the properties being close to how it spreads. Yes. And it's defenitely not the same thing as appelstroop (apple treacle), what with all those spices etc. |
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:28:43 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"cshenk" > wrote in message ... > >> LOL, no. We aren't making it up. It's a simple thing that at least in >> southern USA is pretty common on the shelves. If it helps, the term >> 'butter' in the title has more to do with how it spreads. Think >> Vegemite and Nutella as the properties being close to how it spreads. > >I remember an episode of The Waltons. They sat down to breakfast and the >kids were sad because there was no butter. There was no butter because they >had to sell the cow. Then one of the adults (forget which one) announced >that they still had grandma's apple butter! I think in the old days they >came up with ways to preserve all that they could so as not to waste the >food. > >Chow chow used to be a common thing too. I know you don't mean the dog, but do you mean this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chayote It's also called cho-cho, or, in Australia, choko. |
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 14:39:24 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: >"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message 79.45... > >On Sat 01 Jul 2017 05:46:49a, Ophelia told us... > >> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message >> 9.44... >> >> On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:45:34p, Ophelia told us... >> >>> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>> >>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>> >>> You probably wouldn't care much for it since most commercial apple >>> butters have cinnamon in them. >>> >>> Cheri >>> >>> == >>> >>> Oh ( Thank you!!!!>>> >> >> Yes, usually a LOT of cinnamon, and ofen a bit of clove. >> >> Wayne Boatwright >> >> == >> >> Please feel free to have my share >> > >You would probably not like mulled wine then, as it almost always has >a few cinnamon sticks and a few whole cloves in it. > > > Wayne Boatwright > >== > >I think it might be safe to say that I definitely would not like mulled wine >... <g> The problem with it is that the spices are overpowering. You mainly smell and taste spices. Who knows what terrible wine is hidden under there. On the other hand, people often like the perceived christmassyness or winterishness of it. |
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On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message > ... > On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:59:28 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
> >> > > > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > > ... > > > "Bruce" wrote in message > > > ... > > > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:12:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >>"Bruce" > wrote in message > > . .. > > >>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:05 -0500, jinx the minx > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>>Ophelia > wrote: > > >>>>> "Gary" wrote in message news
> > >>>>>> > >>>>> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores > > >>>>> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking > > >>>>> it. > > >>>>> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> === > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> > > >>>>> > > >>>>I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what > > >>>>apple > > >>>>butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely > > >>>>seen > > >>>>it > > >>>>in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's > > >>>>something people make and can themselves, not buy. > > >>> > > >>> I'm from a country with lots of apple trees, where apple sauce is > > >>> children's second most popular food item after mother's milk, but I've > > >>> never heard of or seen apple butter. > > >>> > > >>> So you're all making it up. > > >> > > >>It all started in Germany. > > >> > > >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter > > > > > > Oh, appelstroop! I know that, but I know it as apple molasses or apple > > > treacle. Very traditional stuff to put on bread or pancakes. > > > > > > == > > > > > > Yes! I know appelstroop ) Ahh no, I don't like it, as you say it is> > > like treacle. > > > > > > I was imagining a very thick apple sauce. > > > > Apple Butter is somewhat like a thick applesauce but darker in color and > > IMO > > doesn't taste the same. I can't exactly remember what it does taste like > > as > > it has been many years since I had any. > > > > == > > > > It seems it has cinnamon etc in it > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > Apple butter was a disappointment to me since it was nothing like butter. > Mostly, it's applesauce. It's tough for an adult to get excited over > applesauce. I don't mind the cinnamon though. It is a surprise that some > people won't care the cinnamon. Cinnamon, ginger, and cloves, combined, are > the basis for turning a tasteless squash into something wonderful - pumpkin > pie. OTOH, some people won't care for ginger or cloves so maybe that's not > so surprising. > > Last night I had a Pepsi Fire. It's a cinnamon flavored drink. I poured it > into a glass and it's fiery cinnamon effervescence upon drinking caused me > to gasp and cough every time I took a sip. Amazing! The liquid is dark red > and is like ginger ale's evil twin. Some people might find a drink that > causes one to hack, unappealing but I find it intriguing. I got 11 more cans > of the stuff to find out if I like it or not - plenty of time. > > --- > > The one thing that gets me is nutmeg. I was fine with it until my dad > brought home a whole apple pie left over from a potluck at work. He said the > guy's wife made two. The first one was barely touched and this one was still > intact. At first bite, we knew why. There was so much nutmeg in the thing, > the filling as was gritty, dark brown, and it bit back. > > I still use nutmeg on occasion but have to be very careful. Any more than a > pinch is too much for me now. I know what you mean. Pie filling that feels like there's ground up tree bark in it is no fun! That stuff should be finely ground and used sparingly. |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 14:39:24 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote: >"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message 79.45... > >On Sat 01 Jul 2017 05:46:49a, Ophelia told us... > >> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message >> 9.44... >> >> On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:45:34p, Ophelia told us... >> >>> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>> >>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>> >>> You probably wouldn't care much for it since most commercial apple >>> butters have cinnamon in them. >>> >>> Cheri >>> >>> == >>> >>> Oh ( Thank you!!!!>>> >> >> Yes, usually a LOT of cinnamon, and ofen a bit of clove. >> >> Wayne Boatwright >> >> == >> >> Please feel free to have my share >> > >You would probably not like mulled wine then, as it almost always has >a few cinnamon sticks and a few whole cloves in it. > > > Wayne Boatwright > >== > >I think it might be safe to say that I definitely would not like mulled >wine >... <g> The problem with it is that the spices are overpowering. You mainly smell and taste spices. Who knows what terrible wine is hidden under there. On the other hand, people often like the perceived christmassyness or winterishness of it. == Is that the stuff you can see at Christmas markets in Germany. I see them all standing around drinking but I never fancied it much. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 21:07:52 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: >"Bruce" wrote in message ... > >On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 14:39:24 +0100, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >>"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message . 179.45... >> >>On Sat 01 Jul 2017 05:46:49a, Ophelia told us... >> >>> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message >>> 9.44... >>> >>> On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:45:34p, Ophelia told us... >>> >>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>>> >>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>>> >>>> You probably wouldn't care much for it since most commercial apple >>>> butters have cinnamon in them. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>>> >>>> == >>>> >>>> Oh ( Thank you!!!!>>>> >>> >>> Yes, usually a LOT of cinnamon, and ofen a bit of clove. >>> >>> Wayne Boatwright >>> >>> == >>> >>> Please feel free to have my share >>> >> >>You would probably not like mulled wine then, as it almost always has >>a few cinnamon sticks and a few whole cloves in it. >> >> >> Wayne Boatwright >> >>== >> >>I think it might be safe to say that I definitely would not like mulled >>wine >>... <g> > >The problem with it is that the spices are overpowering. You mainly >smell and taste spices. Who knows what terrible wine is hidden under >there. On the other hand, people often like the perceived >christmassyness or winterishness of it. > >== > >Is that the stuff you can see at Christmas markets in Germany. I see them >all standing around drinking but I never fancied it much. Yes, that's the one, Glühwein. I guess the one good thing is that it's warm. |
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"Bruce" wrote in message news
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 21:07:52 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote: >"Bruce" wrote in message .. . > >On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 14:39:24 +0100, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >>"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message . 179.45... >> >>On Sat 01 Jul 2017 05:46:49a, Ophelia told us... >> >>> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message >>> 9.44... >>> >>> On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:45:34p, Ophelia told us... >>> >>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>>> >>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>>> >>>> You probably wouldn't care much for it since most commercial apple >>>> butters have cinnamon in them. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>>> >>>> == >>>> >>>> Oh ( Thank you!!!!>>>> >>> >>> Yes, usually a LOT of cinnamon, and ofen a bit of clove. >>> >>> Wayne Boatwright >>> >>> == >>> >>> Please feel free to have my share >>> >> >>You would probably not like mulled wine then, as it almost always has >>a few cinnamon sticks and a few whole cloves in it. >> >> >> Wayne Boatwright >> >>== >> >>I think it might be safe to say that I definitely would not like mulled >>wine >>... <g> > >The problem with it is that the spices are overpowering. You mainly >smell and taste spices. Who knows what terrible wine is hidden under >there. On the other hand, people often like the perceived >christmassyness or winterishness of it. > >== > >Is that the stuff you can see at Christmas markets in Germany. I see them >all standing around drinking but I never fancied it much. Yes, that's the one, Glühwein. I guess the one good thing is that it's warm. == Ahh yes, Glühwein! Did you used to drink it? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 21:49:06 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: >"Bruce" wrote in message news
>>On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 21:07:52 +0100, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >>"Bruce" wrote in message . .. >> >>On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 14:39:24 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>wrote: >> >>>"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message .179.45... >>> >>>On Sat 01 Jul 2017 05:46:49a, Ophelia told us... >>> >>>> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message >>>> 9.44... >>>> >>>> On Fri 30 Jun 2017 11:45:34p, Ophelia told us... >>>> >>>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>>>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>>> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >>>>>> >>>>>> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >>>>> >>>>> You probably wouldn't care much for it since most commercial apple >>>>> butters have cinnamon in them. >>>>> >>>>> Cheri >>>>> >>>>> == >>>>> >>>>> Oh ( Thank you!!!!>>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, usually a LOT of cinnamon, and ofen a bit of clove. >>>> >>>> Wayne Boatwright >>>> >>>> == >>>> >>>> Please feel free to have my share >>>> >>> >>>You would probably not like mulled wine then, as it almost always has >>>a few cinnamon sticks and a few whole cloves in it. >>> >>> >>> Wayne Boatwright >>> >>>== >>> >>>I think it might be safe to say that I definitely would not like mulled >>>wine >>>... <g> >> >>The problem with it is that the spices are overpowering. You mainly >>smell and taste spices. Who knows what terrible wine is hidden under >>there. On the other hand, people often like the perceived >>christmassyness or winterishness of it. >> >>== >> >>Is that the stuff you can see at Christmas markets in Germany. I see them >>all standing around drinking but I never fancied it much. > >Yes, that's the one, Glühwein. I guess the one good thing is that it's >warm. > >== > >Ahh yes, Glühwein! Did you used to drink it? Only very rarely. |
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On 2017-07-01 4:04 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote: >> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message >> The one thing that gets me is nutmeg. I was fine with it until my >> dad brought home a whole apple pie left over from a potluck at >> work. He said the guy's wife made two. The first one was barely >> touched and this one was still intact. At first bite, we knew why. >> There was so much nutmeg in the thing, the filling as was gritty, >> dark brown, and it bit back. >> >> I still use nutmeg on occasion but have to be very careful. Any >> more than a pinch is too much for me now. > > I know what you mean. Pie filling that feels like there's ground up > tree bark in it is no fun! That stuff should be finely ground and > used sparingly. Really? I skipped the top half of the post because it had quoted material from a half dozen previous posts. I got to the part about the pies and it seemed like such a tall tale that it could only have come from one person. I scrolled back up to the top and, sure enough, it was another of Julie's tall tales. |
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On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 11:39:17 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-07-01 4:04 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote: > >> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >> The one thing that gets me is nutmeg. I was fine with it until my > >> dad brought home a whole apple pie left over from a potluck at > >> work. He said the guy's wife made two. The first one was barely > >> touched and this one was still intact. At first bite, we knew why. > >> There was so much nutmeg in the thing, the filling as was gritty, > >> dark brown, and it bit back. > >> > >> I still use nutmeg on occasion but have to be very careful. Any > >> more than a pinch is too much for me now. > > > > I know what you mean. Pie filling that feels like there's ground up > > tree bark in it is no fun! That stuff should be finely ground and > > used sparingly. > > Really? I skipped the top half of the post because it had quoted > material from a half dozen previous posts. I got to the part about the > pies and it seemed like such a tall tale that it could only have come > from one person. I scrolled back up to the top and, sure enough, it was > another of Julie's tall tales. This is why I recommend Google Groups - you don't have to live a life of confusion. The choice is yours. |
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On 2017-07-01 5:51 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 11:39:17 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2017-07-01 4:04 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote: >>> I know what you mean. Pie filling that feels like there's ground up >>> tree bark in it is no fun! That stuff should be finely ground and >>> used sparingly. >> >> Really? I skipped the top half of the post because it had quoted >> material from a half dozen previous posts. I got to the part about the >> pies and it seemed like such a tall tale that it could only have come >> from one person. I scrolled back up to the top and, sure enough, it was >> another of Julie's tall tales. > > This is why I recommend Google Groups - you don't have to live a life of confusion. The choice is yours. > Google Groups has an automatic bullshit detector? |
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On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 12:10:21 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-07-01 5:51 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 11:39:17 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2017-07-01 4:04 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >>> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote: > > >>> I know what you mean. Pie filling that feels like there's ground up > >>> tree bark in it is no fun! That stuff should be finely ground and > >>> used sparingly. > >> > >> Really? I skipped the top half of the post because it had quoted > >> material from a half dozen previous posts. I got to the part about the > >> pies and it seemed like such a tall tale that it could only have come > >> from one person. I scrolled back up to the top and, sure enough, it was > >> another of Julie's tall tales. > > > > This is why I recommend Google Groups - you don't have to live a life of confusion. The choice is yours. > > > > Google Groups has an automatic bullshit detector? Google is likely to be in the forefront of AI research so one day soon, it will. Until then, you're on your own. That's the breaks. |
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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > "cshenk" > wrote in message > ... > > > LOL, no. We aren't making it up. It's a simple thing that at > > least in southern USA is pretty common on the shelves. If it > > helps, the term 'butter' in the title has more to do with how it > > spreads. Think Vegemite and Nutella as the properties being close > > to how it spreads. > > I remember an episode of The Waltons. They sat down to breakfast and > the kids were sad because there was no butter. There was no butter > because they had to sell the cow. Then one of the adults (forget > which one) announced that they still had grandma's apple butter! I > think in the old days they came up with ways to preserve all that > they could so as not to waste the food. > > Chow chow used to be a common thing too. And watermelon pickles. You > can still get these things or even make them but they're not common > like they used to be. > > My dad said his grandma always had pickles on the table. Why? They > always had tons of them. Might not always be cucumbers but there was > always a jar of pickled something or other. If the meal didn't > contain enough food to fill you up, you then ate some pickles. Yes, and I love the old style pickles. Watermelon rind was the bomb! -- |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > On 2017-07-01 4:04 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote: >>> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message > >>> The one thing that gets me is nutmeg. I was fine with it until my >>> dad brought home a whole apple pie left over from a potluck at >>> work. He said the guy's wife made two. The first one was barely >>> touched and this one was still intact. At first bite, we knew why. >>> There was so much nutmeg in the thing, the filling as was gritty, >>> dark brown, and it bit back. >>> >>> I still use nutmeg on occasion but have to be very careful. Any >>> more than a pinch is too much for me now. >> >> I know what you mean. Pie filling that feels like there's ground up >> tree bark in it is no fun! That stuff should be finely ground and >> used sparingly. > > Really? I skipped the top half of the post because it had quoted material > from a half dozen previous posts. I got to the part about the pies and it > seemed like such a tall tale that it could only have come from one person. > I scrolled back up to the top and, sure enough, it was another of Julie's > tall tales. Why in the world would you think it was a tall tale? |
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"Bruce" > wrote in message ... > On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:28:43 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message ... >> >>> LOL, no. We aren't making it up. It's a simple thing that at least in >>> southern USA is pretty common on the shelves. If it helps, the term >>> 'butter' in the title has more to do with how it spreads. Think >>> Vegemite and Nutella as the properties being close to how it spreads. >> >>I remember an episode of The Waltons. They sat down to breakfast and the >>kids were sad because there was no butter. There was no butter because >>they >>had to sell the cow. Then one of the adults (forget which one) announced >>that they still had grandma's apple butter! I think in the old days they >>came up with ways to preserve all that they could so as not to waste the >>food. >> >>Chow chow used to be a common thing too. > > I know you don't mean the dog, but do you mean this? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chayote > > It's also called cho-cho, or, in Australia, choko. No. Not even close. Chayote are also called Merliton. I meant this: http://www.armadillopeppers.com/Chow-Chow_Relish.html |
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 21:52:37 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Bruce" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:28:43 -0700, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>> >>>"cshenk" > wrote in message ... >>> >>>> LOL, no. We aren't making it up. It's a simple thing that at least in >>>> southern USA is pretty common on the shelves. If it helps, the term >>>> 'butter' in the title has more to do with how it spreads. Think >>>> Vegemite and Nutella as the properties being close to how it spreads. >>> >>>I remember an episode of The Waltons. They sat down to breakfast and the >>>kids were sad because there was no butter. There was no butter because >>>they >>>had to sell the cow. Then one of the adults (forget which one) announced >>>that they still had grandma's apple butter! I think in the old days they >>>came up with ways to preserve all that they could so as not to waste the >>>food. >>> >>>Chow chow used to be a common thing too. >> >> I know you don't mean the dog, but do you mean this? >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chayote >> >> It's also called cho-cho, or, in Australia, choko. > >No. Not even close. Chayote are also called Merliton. I meant this: > >http://www.armadillopeppers.com/Chow-Chow_Relish.html Oh, green tomato relish. |
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Ophelia > wrote:
> "jinx the minx" wrote in message > ... > > Ophelia > wrote: >> "Gary" wrote in message news
>> >> On 6/29/2017 8:03 PM, Bruce wrote: >>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:54:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >>> >>>> It's ok! I might have missed it too. It may be there *now* but at the >>>> time, that HUGE isle that seemed to have 100 versions or more of >>>> 'Jellies/Jams' didn't have it. >>>> >>>> Conversely, you'd be disappointed at the standard USA jelly/jam isle. >>>> There is far less variety here. >>>> >>>> Check for me? I think Apple Butter was also not there in OZ? Might >>>> take a little google link to explain that one. It's not the same as >>>> apple sauce but something you spread on toast. I do not recall seeing >>>> it. >>> >>> I've never seen it or heard of it, but I've only lived in Australia >>> for 12 years or so. >>> >> >> You've never heard of apple butter, so common in usa grocery stores >> forever. I haven't bought any in 100 years but I do remember liking it. >> Spread on buttered toast just like you would do with jam or jelly. >> >> It's pretty good but nothing to run right out to try. >> >> === >> >> I've heard of apple butter, but I've never seen any >> >> Mind you, I can't say I've looked for it either <g> >> >> >> >> >> > > I live in a large metropolitan area where most everyone knows what apple > butter is (my generation and older, at least), but I've only rarely seen it > in grocery stores (it's more of a specialty store item). For me, it's > something people make and can themselves, not buy. > > > jinx the minx > > == > > Thank you, jinx. Do you use it? If so how? > > > I haven't had it for quite some time because I'm diabetic (I can't handle bread well), but I use it on toast just like any other fruit jam. It's apple-y and cinnamon-y, and eating it will always bring me right back to early morning sunrise breakfasts at my grandma's house when I was growing up. My grandma always had a jar homemade apple butter in her fridge. -- jinx the minx |
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