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On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 13:04:34 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"dsi1" > wrote in message
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>On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 11:54:03 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Their corn is okay but I find that I can often get better prices
>> elsewhere.
>> I am not brand loyal when it comes to canned corn or peas. Greens
>> however...
>> They used to carry a name brand. Then they switched to the Kirkland
>> brand.
>> I
>> have no clue who makes them, but they have carried this brand for years
>> now.
>>
>> Angela was the first to try the green beans. Those used to be one of her
>> favorite foods but I think she got herself a little burned out on them
>> after
>> eating them pretty much every day. She refused to eat them and said they
>> were horrible. She was correct. I can't remember now the specifics but it
>> had to do with the taste. Not good at all. I have since bought some other
>> off brand at Big Lots that was horrible in a different way. I bought two
>> big
>> cans. Thankfully only two. They didn't taste bad but the can was more
>> stems
>> than anything else. So a big waste of money.

>
>I haven't eaten green beans in quite a while. A couple of cans would
>probably last me ten years - then I'd throw the cans away. My son does make
>some kind of casserole party food with green beans. It will use a giant can
>of beans from Costco. I guess he's famous for that. I've had green bean
>casserole on the mainland - personally, I don't get it.
>
>---
>
>My favorite is how they make them at Bucca De Beppo. They are just lightly
>cooked and have lemon in them. I can recreate them at home but I am the
>only
>one who likes them. Seems some people are very picky about their beans. I
>have heard more than one person comment that they don't like lightly
>cooked
>beans because they squeak between the teeth. I hadn't noticed this until it
>was pointed out. They do. I find it comical. I still like them though.


Pretty much the only way I like green (or yellow) beans is freshly
picked and steamed with butter.

Doris

==

Same here, I would never want canned.


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On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 3:40:09 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/2/2017 3:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "Gary" > wrote in message
> > news
> >> On 7/2/2017 6:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> But... Fresh tomatoes are something I almost always keep in the house.
> >>> And if they look like they're starting to go bad, I will put them in a
> >>> soup.
> >>
> >> Nice garden fresh tomatoes can be chopped up and frozen for many
> >> months. Use to make a nice spaghetti sauce during the winter when
> >> stores only sell lousy tomatoes. They freeze well and retain that
> >> garden taste.

> >
> > No freezer space and I rarely make spaghetti sauce. Must also be
> > different where you live because our winter and summer tomatoes are no
> > different.

>
> They certainly are here. In summer we get fresh local tomatoes picked
> ripe from the field with great flavor. In winter we get either hothouse
> or imported ones picked too soon with no flavor but ship well.


Do you get the fresh local tomatoes at a major grocery store? In my
experience, grocery stores require a consistent supplier, so it's
pink rocks year round.

We've got a few smaller places that can source decent tomatoes
from about May through October. Excellent tomatoes are available at
farmers' markets, but only from about late July through early October
here. Once nighttime temperatures are frequently below 50 F,
tomatoes are pretty much done.

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> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
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>> The only food I remember eating as a small kid was a baked potato and
>> kale.

>
> We never had kale. My mom hated it.
> ==
>
> I don't like it, but I grow Cavolo Nero for D who loves it.


Angela liked it when she was little, but not now.

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In article >, cshenk1
@cox.net says...
>
> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 11:17:34 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > >> BOGOF always means you have to buy 2 (for the price of 1).
> > >> Restaurants, bars, grocery stores, etc...
> > >
> > > Varies with the store there. Harris Teeters, can buy 1 and get it
> > > 1/2 price.

> >
> > All my shopping all over the country I've never seen that kind of
> > discount. But this article confirms it does happen at Harris Teeter
> > (and a couple others).
> >
> > http://www.wral.com/5onyourside/smar...gpost/6640258/
> >
> > -sw

>
> It just varies with markets so pays to know your local ones. They also
> do a lot of buy 2, get 3 free sales.


Do you mean buy 5, pay for 2,
or buy 3, pay for 2?

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On 7/3/2017 6:02 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 3:40:09 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 7/2/2017 3:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On 7/2/2017 6:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> But... Fresh tomatoes are something I almost always keep in the house.
>>>>> And if they look like they're starting to go bad, I will put them in a
>>>>> soup.
>>>>
>>>> Nice garden fresh tomatoes can be chopped up and frozen for many
>>>> months. Use to make a nice spaghetti sauce during the winter when
>>>> stores only sell lousy tomatoes. They freeze well and retain that
>>>> garden taste.
>>>
>>> No freezer space and I rarely make spaghetti sauce. Must also be
>>> different where you live because our winter and summer tomatoes are no
>>> different.

>>
>> They certainly are here. In summer we get fresh local tomatoes picked
>> ripe from the field with great flavor. In winter we get either hothouse
>> or imported ones picked too soon with no flavor but ship well.

>
> Do you get the fresh local tomatoes at a major grocery store? In my
> experience, grocery stores require a consistent supplier, so it's
> pink rocks year round.
>
> We've got a few smaller places that can source decent tomatoes
> from about May through October. Excellent tomatoes are available at
> farmers' markets, but only from about late July through early October
> here. Once nighttime temperatures are frequently below 50 F,
> tomatoes are pretty much done.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


The local tomatoes come from either the Farmer's Market of my neighbor's
garden. He did not plant a garden this year though.

The supermarket sometimes had tomatoes that rank about mediocre if you
want one off season.
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On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 8:58:17 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/3/2017 6:02 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 3:40:09 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 7/2/2017 3:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Gary" > wrote in message
> >>> news > >>>> On 7/2/2017 6:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But... Fresh tomatoes are something I almost always keep in the house.
> >>>>> And if they look like they're starting to go bad, I will put them in a
> >>>>> soup.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nice garden fresh tomatoes can be chopped up and frozen for many
> >>>> months. Use to make a nice spaghetti sauce during the winter when
> >>>> stores only sell lousy tomatoes. They freeze well and retain that
> >>>> garden taste.
> >>>
> >>> No freezer space and I rarely make spaghetti sauce. Must also be
> >>> different where you live because our winter and summer tomatoes are no
> >>> different.
> >>
> >> They certainly are here. In summer we get fresh local tomatoes picked
> >> ripe from the field with great flavor. In winter we get either hothouse
> >> or imported ones picked too soon with no flavor but ship well.

> >
> > Do you get the fresh local tomatoes at a major grocery store? In my
> > experience, grocery stores require a consistent supplier, so it's
> > pink rocks year round.
> >
> > We've got a few smaller places that can source decent tomatoes
> > from about May through October. Excellent tomatoes are available at
> > farmers' markets, but only from about late July through early October
> > here. Once nighttime temperatures are frequently below 50 F,
> > tomatoes are pretty much done.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >

>
> The local tomatoes come from either the Farmer's Market of my neighbor's
> garden. He did not plant a garden this year though.
>
> The supermarket sometimes had tomatoes that rank about mediocre if you
> want one off season.


Julie claims to have no access to a farmer's market. Or something. I
conjecture that in this thread she's talking about grocery store tomatoes.

For off-season tomatoes, I favor grape tomatoes. I'll even slice them
onto a sandwich, although that's a little messy.

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On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 14:21:17 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> On 7/2/2017 5:03 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> > "jmcquown" wrote:
>> > You can definitely buy only one and get a half price deal at any grocery
>> > store around here.
>> >
>> > To me it means Buy One Get One Free
>> > if you see what I mean)

>>
>> Same as Jill with me, Oph. At my stores all will sell you just one for
>> half price. Also they often have things like right now: Fresh corn is 5
>> for $1.00. I don't have to buy 5 to get the price. I can buy just one
>> ear of corn and pay 20 cents.

>
> Shops here never do that. You have to buy the stated number to get the
>discount.
>
> We have huge storage space so I only ever purchase long-life staples
>when my preferred brands are on a loss-leader special offer.(laundry
>detergent, lav paper, soap, toothpaste, dried pasta, canned tomatoes
>etc).
>
> With fresh food offers, if it's freezable raw meat or fish I stock up
>the freezer, and if it isn't I cook some to eat fresh and some into
>something freezable.
>
>Yesterday I found a good offer on those big open-cap mushrooms; we'll
>have some stuffed for dinner, and the rest will be made into duxelles
>and frozen.
>
> Janet UK


a couple of years ago, the day after Christmas, I went to my favorite
grocery store. All of their mushrooms were 49 cents per pound
(normally $2.89) They had an over order before Christmas and wanted
to move them along. I bough 4 or 5 pounds but couldn't think how I
could take advantage of more or I would have bought up the other two
cases. So every year I check out the mushrooms the day after
Christmas. Just like a dog that once found a treat in one spot, I
keep returning.
Janet US
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On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 07:57:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
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>> The only food I remember eating as a small kid was a baked potato and
>> kale.

>
>We never had kale. My mom hated it.
>
>==
>
>I don't like it, but I grow Cavolo Nero for D who loves it.


I like to put it in soup but I just can't get past it fresh and raw.
Janet US


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On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 07:57:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
>
> wrote in message
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>> The only food I remember eating as a small kid was a baked potato and
>> kale.

>
>We never had kale. My mom hated it.
>
>==
>
>I don't like it, but I grow Cavolo Nero for D who loves it.


I like to put it in soup but I just can't get past it fresh and raw.
Janet US

==

What do you do with it?



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On 2017-07-03 10:18 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 07:57:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >

...
>>> The only food I remember eating as a small kid was a baked potato and
>>> kale.



Gotta be Dutch. Apparently it is some sort of comfort food for them. My
wife is thankful that it was not in their house.
>>
>> We never had kale. My mom hated it.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> I don't like it, but I grow Cavolo Nero for D who loves it.

>
> I like to put it in soup but I just can't get past it fresh and raw.


The corner bakery sometimes does a spicy kale and potato soup with
sausage and it is very good. I had found it to be edible in salad, but I
can't handle it cooked as a side dish.


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On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 15:23:21 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 07:57:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news >>
>>
> wrote in message
...
>>> The only food I remember eating as a small kid was a baked potato and
>>> kale.

>>
>>We never had kale. My mom hated it.
>>
>>==
>>
>>I don't like it, but I grow Cavolo Nero for D who loves it.

>
>I like to put it in soup but I just can't get past it fresh and raw.
>Janet US
>
>==
>
>What do you do with it?


I just tear it up and cook it in a vegetable soup for the last few
minutes of cooking. Then it is no different than having spinach in
the soup. Raw kale has a very resistant mouth feel. It's not like
lettuce that will refresh your mouth.
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Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >, cshenk1
> @cox.net says...
> >
> > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 11:17:34 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > > >> BOGOF always means you have to buy 2 (for the price of 1).
> > > >> Restaurants, bars, grocery stores, etc...
> > > >
> > > > Varies with the store there. Harris Teeters, can buy 1 and get
> > > > it 1/2 price.
> > >
> > > All my shopping all over the country I've never seen that kind of
> > > discount. But this article confirms it does happen at Harris
> > > Teeter (and a couple others).
> > >
> > > http://www.wral.com/5onyourside/smar...gpost/6640258/
> > >
> > > -sw

> >
> > It just varies with markets so pays to know your local ones. They
> > also do a lot of buy 2, get 3 free sales.

>
> Do you mean buy 5, pay for 2,
> or buy 3, pay for 2?
>
> Janet UK
>


Nope, you get 5 total but only pay for 2.

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> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 3:40:09 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 7/2/2017 3:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > "Gary" > wrote in message
> > > news > > >> On 7/2/2017 6:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > > >
> > >>> But... Fresh tomatoes are something I almost always keep in the

> > house. >>> And if they look like they're starting to go bad, I
> > will put them in a >>> soup.
> > > >
> > >> Nice garden fresh tomatoes can be chopped up and frozen for many
> > >> months. Use to make a nice spaghetti sauce during the winter

> > when >> stores only sell lousy tomatoes. They freeze well and
> > retain that >> garden taste.
> > >
> > > No freezer space and I rarely make spaghetti sauce. Must also be
> > > different where you live because our winter and summer tomatoes
> > > are no different.

> >
> > They certainly are here. In summer we get fresh local tomatoes
> > picked ripe from the field with great flavor. In winter we get
> > either hothouse or imported ones picked too soon with no flavor but
> > ship well.

>
> Do you get the fresh local tomatoes at a major grocery store? In my
> experience, grocery stores require a consistent supplier, so it's
> pink rocks year round.
>
> We've got a few smaller places that can source decent tomatoes
> from about May through October. Excellent tomatoes are available at
> farmers' markets, but only from about late July through early October
> here. Once nighttime temperatures are frequently below 50 F,
> tomatoes are pretty much done.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Hi Cindy,

While it varies by store here, at least Harris Teeters (my main one) in
season has a whole set of 'locally grown'. We have a big farming
community for all that we are also a set of big cities. Lots of
Virginia Beach, especially south part, then Chesapeake and Suffolk have
a lot too. Supply isn't that much of a problem because chances are,
*some* of the produce on shelves for just about all the USA folks here,
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On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 10:04:45 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi10yahoo.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 11:54:03 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > Their corn is okay but I find that I can often get better prices
> > elsewhere.
> > I am not brand loyal when it comes to canned corn or peas. Greens
> > however...
> > They used to carry a name brand. Then they switched to the Kirkland brand.
> > I
> > have no clue who makes them, but they have carried this brand for years
> > now.
> >
> > Angela was the first to try the green beans. Those used to be one of her
> > favorite foods but I think she got herself a little burned out on them
> > after
> > eating them pretty much every day. She refused to eat them and said they
> > were horrible. She was correct. I can't remember now the specifics but it
> > had to do with the taste. Not good at all. I have since bought some other
> > off brand at Big Lots that was horrible in a different way. I bought two
> > big
> > cans. Thankfully only two. They didn't taste bad but the can was more
> > stems
> > than anything else. So a big waste of money.

>
> I haven't eaten green beans in quite a while. A couple of cans would
> probably last me ten years - then I'd throw the cans away. My son does make
> some kind of casserole party food with green beans. It will use a giant can
> of beans from Costco. I guess he's famous for that. I've had green bean
> casserole on the mainland - personally, I don't get it.
>
> ---
>
> My favorite is how they make them at Bucca De Beppo. They are just lightly
> cooked and have lemon in them. I can recreate them at home but I am the only
> one who likes them. Seems some people are very picky about their beans. I
> have heard more than one person comment that they don't like lightly cooked
> beans because they squeak between the teeth. I hadn't noticed this until it
> was pointed out. They do. I find it comical. I still like them though.


The kids seem to like BdB. I think it's just so-so although it is interesting being surrounded by it's 60's Italian Voodoo Cult vibe. I'll look for the green beans the next time I'm there. The idea of beans squeaking on teeth makes my flesh crawl.
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>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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>On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 07:57:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news >>
>>
> wrote in message
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>>> The only food I remember eating as a small kid was a baked potato and
>>> kale.

>>
>>We never had kale. My mom hated it.
>>
>>==
>>
>>I don't like it, but I grow Cavolo Nero for D who loves it.

>
>I like to put it in soup but I just can't get past it fresh and raw.
>Janet US
>
>==
>
>What do you do with it?


I just tear it up and cook it in a vegetable soup for the last few
minutes of cooking. Then it is no different than having spinach in
the soup. Raw kale has a very resistant mouth feel. It's not like
lettuce that will refresh your mouth.
Janet US

==

Thanks. Always steam it lightly. He seems to prefer it that way.

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On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 23:40:10 -0400, Doris Night
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>On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 10:01:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>On 7/2/2017 6:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> But... Fresh tomatoes are something I almost always keep in the house.
>>> And if they look like they're starting to go bad, I will put them in a
>>> soup.

>>
>>Nice garden fresh tomatoes can be chopped up and frozen for many months.
>>Use to make a nice spaghetti sauce during the winter when stores only
>>sell lousy tomatoes. They freeze well and retain that garden taste.

>
>I blanche, peel, and freeze all of the roma tomatoes my husband grows.
>In ziploc bags, about 8-10 tomatoes to a bag.
>
>I use them in soup, stew, chili, etc.
>
>Doris



That dosen't make sense. I grow lots of romas but I turn them into
sauce *before* freezing... as a sauce they take lots less freezer
space and are ready for whatever. I see no benefit whatsoever in
freezing whole tomatoes as they come off the vine, with cores, skins,
and seeds. I'd think a year later when new tomatoes are ready those
frozen ones end up in the compost bin or more likely in the trash...
and then the tomato wasting cycle repeats itself.
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> On Mon 03 Jul 2017 05:41:56a, Janet told us...
>
>> In article >,
>> cshenk1 @cox.net says...
>>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>> > On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 11:17:34 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>> > >
>>> > >> BOGOF always means you have to buy 2 (for the price of 1).
>>> > >> Restaurants, bars, grocery stores, etc...
>>> > >
>>> > > Varies with the store there. Harris Teeters, can buy 1 and
>>> > > get it 1/2 price.
>>> >
>>> > All my shopping all over the country I've never seen that kind
>>> > of discount. But this article confirms it does happen at
>>> > Harris Teeter (and a couple others).
>>> >
>>> > http://www.wral.com/5onyourside/smar...gpost/6640258/
>>> >
>>> > -sw
>>>
>>> It just varies with markets so pays to know your local ones. They
>>> also do a lot of buy 2, get 3 free sales.

>>
>> Do you mean buy 5, pay for 2,
>> or buy 3, pay for 2?
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>>

>
> That's one variation. When Pepsi or Coke goes on sale, it's usually
> buy 1, get 3 free. However, there is usually a minimum price of $25
> for the other groceries. Still, it is a legitimate sale price as
> long as you intended to spend $25 or more on other things. David is
> a Pepsi freak, so we know the good deals when we see them.


Wow! We never get deals like that here. Cheapest I've seen recently was
4/$10 but you must buy all 4. The problem is that I like the Lime Diet Coke
and when it's on sale, they often don't have 4 of them. Also, my husband
likes diet ginger ale but doesn't drink very much. So I don't need to buy 4
of those. Thankfully, some stores are now allowing us to mix and match
between the brands.

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>>> On 7/2/2017 3:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On 7/2/2017 6:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But... Fresh tomatoes are something I almost always keep in the
>>>>>> house.
>>>>>> And if they look like they're starting to go bad, I will put them in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> soup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice garden fresh tomatoes can be chopped up and frozen for many
>>>>> months. Use to make a nice spaghetti sauce during the winter when
>>>>> stores only sell lousy tomatoes. They freeze well and retain that
>>>>> garden taste.
>>>>
>>>> No freezer space and I rarely make spaghetti sauce. Must also be
>>>> different where you live because our winter and summer tomatoes are no
>>>> different.
>>>
>>> They certainly are here. In summer we get fresh local tomatoes picked
>>> ripe from the field with great flavor. In winter we get either hothouse
>>> or imported ones picked too soon with no flavor but ship well.

>>
>> Do you get the fresh local tomatoes at a major grocery store? In my
>> experience, grocery stores require a consistent supplier, so it's
>> pink rocks year round.
>>
>> We've got a few smaller places that can source decent tomatoes
>> from about May through October. Excellent tomatoes are available at
>> farmers' markets, but only from about late July through early October
>> here. Once nighttime temperatures are frequently below 50 F,
>> tomatoes are pretty much done.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>
> The local tomatoes come from either the Farmer's Market of my neighbor's
> garden. He did not plant a garden this year though.
>
> The supermarket sometimes had tomatoes that rank about mediocre if you
> want one off season.


I did check to see if we can get local ones here. Did not find any farms
that sell them, although they might come in a CSA box. I do think I remember
getting some that way but usually only one at a time. Our season here is
July through November, but this year, nobody I know has any that would be
ready this month. I did see big plants with tomatoes on them for sale at
some store. $19.99 each. They are likely grown somewhere else to begin with.
Like California. I only saw 4 tomatoes on each plant and no flowers so those
were no bargain.

The tomatoes we get in the supermarkets are good year round. In fact, the
last time I grew them, nobody could tell the difference between those and
the supermarket ones. Sad, I know.

Only reason I am trying again to grow them now is I wanted some plants on
the deck, I found a good deal on a growing tub and I love the smell of
tomato plants.



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"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
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>>
>>What do you do with it?

>
> I just tear it up and cook it in a vegetable soup for the last few
> minutes of cooking. Then it is no different than having spinach in
> the soup. Raw kale has a very resistant mouth feel. It's not like
> lettuce that will refresh your mouth.
> Janet US


I think Angela came too late to remember getting a sprig of parsley on a
restaurant plate. That parsley was one of my favorite things. Much more
common when she was little was the kale leaf which she always snatched up
and wolfed right down. Nobody else liked it so we didn't care.

Once in a while there would be fruit instead. One place gave tiny apples.
She loved those too. More common was the orange slice. Nobody ever wanted
that. I couldn't understand why they kept putting those on there. They all
seemed to go back to the kitchen.

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> The kids seem to like BdB. I think it's just so-so although it is
> interesting being surrounded by it's 60's Italian Voodoo Cult vibe. I'll
> look for the green beans the next time I'm there. The idea of beans
> squeaking on teeth makes my flesh crawl.


I can't say that I care for the restaurant or any of the other food but the
beans were good!

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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 16:47:40 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 23:40:10 -0400, Doris Night
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 10:01:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>On 7/2/2017 6:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But... Fresh tomatoes are something I almost always keep in the house.
>>>> And if they look like they're starting to go bad, I will put them in a
>>>> soup.
>>>
>>>Nice garden fresh tomatoes can be chopped up and frozen for many months.
>>>Use to make a nice spaghetti sauce during the winter when stores only
>>>sell lousy tomatoes. They freeze well and retain that garden taste.

>>
>>I blanche, peel, and freeze all of the roma tomatoes my husband grows.
>>In ziploc bags, about 8-10 tomatoes to a bag.
>>
>>I use them in soup, stew, chili, etc.
>>
>>Doris

>
>
>That dosen't make sense. I grow lots of romas but I turn them into
>sauce *before* freezing... as a sauce they take lots less freezer
>space and are ready for whatever. I see no benefit whatsoever in
>freezing whole tomatoes as they come off the vine, with cores, skins,
>and seeds. I'd think a year later when new tomatoes are ready those
>frozen ones end up in the compost bin or more likely in the trash...
>and then the tomato wasting cycle repeats itself.


The skins and cores come off the tomatoes before freezing. (If you had
read my post you might have seen that.) When tomatoes are on, I have
neither the time nor the inclination to make tomato sauce. Freezing
them in ziploc bags works fine for me. At the moment, I believe I have
only 2 bags left in the freezer from last year.


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>
>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
.. .


>> Pretty much the only way I like green (or yellow) beans is freshly
>> picked and steamed with butter.

>
>The only steamed food I like is tamales.


I've never eaten tamales. Tex-Mex stuff isn't found around here.

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>On 2017-07-03 10:18 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 07:57:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >

>..
>>>> The only food I remember eating as a small kid was a baked potato and
>>>> kale.

>
>
>Gotta be Dutch. Apparently it is some sort of comfort food for them. My
>wife is thankful that it was not in their house.
>>>
>>> We never had kale. My mom hated it.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> I don't like it, but I grow Cavolo Nero for D who loves it.

>>
>> I like to put it in soup but I just can't get past it fresh and raw.

>
>The corner bakery sometimes does a spicy kale and potato soup with
>sausage and it is very good. I had found it to be edible in salad, but I
>can't handle it cooked as a side dish.


Ribollita. I make it with sausage, potatoes, kale, cannellini beans,
plus onions, cabbage, and a whole bunch of other stuff. It's a "clean
out the fridge" soup. One of my husband's favourites.

Doris


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> On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 21:12:33 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
. ..

>
>>> Pretty much the only way I like green (or yellow) beans is freshly
>>> picked and steamed with butter.

>>
>>The only steamed food I like is tamales.

>
> I've never eaten tamales. Tex-Mex stuff isn't found around here.


I could be wrong but I don't think tamales are Tex-Mex. They're Mexican.

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> I really love home made tamales. I've made them a few times, but
> they're a PITA to make, especially if you're making them by yourself.
> The sister of a former co-worker who came here from Chihuahua, Mexico
> makes dozens of them, along with her other sisters. I buy a dozen or
> so at a time and they're the best I've ever eaten. We and they live in
> Phoenix, but when I lived in Cleveland I also had a good source for
> home made tamales.


I've only made cup tamales as I have no steamer nor place to store it.
They're okay but not the same. I'd rather make pupusas. Much easier and
quicker, but still not the same.

For a time I could get some good black bean ones from the Texas Tamale
company at Central Market but I don't think they carry them any more. I did
get a shipment from the company one Christmas. They were pricey and I
disliked whatever the sauce was that they said to put on top. I think they
referred to it as chili but it wasn't good for me. The sauce might be
considered Tex Mex.

The only time I've tried tamales in restaurants here, they were no good.
Like really old or something. Dried out. Albertsons used to make some good
ones but haven't seen them for years. Have been tempted to try what they
sell at Winco but it's such a huge package. Husband doesn't like them at
all. Angela only likes the chicken ones and I don't like chicken, so... Wah.

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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 16:47:40 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 23:40:10 -0400, Doris Night
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 10:01:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>On 7/2/2017 6:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But... Fresh tomatoes are something I almost always keep in the house.
>>>> And if they look like they're starting to go bad, I will put them in a
>>>> soup.
>>>
>>>Nice garden fresh tomatoes can be chopped up and frozen for many months.
>>>Use to make a nice spaghetti sauce during the winter when stores only
>>>sell lousy tomatoes. They freeze well and retain that garden taste.

>>
>>I blanche, peel, and freeze all of the roma tomatoes my husband grows.
>>In ziploc bags, about 8-10 tomatoes to a bag.
>>
>>I use them in soup, stew, chili, etc.
>>
>>Doris

>
>
>That dosen't make sense. I grow lots of romas but I turn them into
>sauce *before* freezing... as a sauce they take lots less freezer
>space and are ready for whatever. I see no benefit whatsoever in
>freezing whole tomatoes as they come off the vine, with cores, skins,
>and seeds. I'd think a year later when new tomatoes are ready those
>frozen ones end up in the compost bin or more likely in the trash...
>and then the tomato wasting cycle repeats itself.


doesn't work out that way here. Sometimes all the sauce batches have
been made already. Sometimes there are just a few more tomatoes
getting picked and I just don't have the will to make more sauce.
Sometimes it's just nice to have a couple of tomatoes to toss into a
casserole. I am always pleased when I am able to come up with just
one last Ziploc bag of tomatoes.
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On Mon 03 Jul 2017 07:32:03p, Doris Night told us...

> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 10:27:20 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2017-07-03 10:18 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 07:57:56 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > ..
>>>>> The only food I remember eating as a small kid was a baked
>>>>> potato and kale.

>>
>>
>>Gotta be Dutch. Apparently it is some sort of comfort food for
>>them. My wife is thankful that it was not in their house.
>>>>
>>>> We never had kale. My mom hated it.
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> I don't like it, but I grow Cavolo Nero for D who loves it.
>>>
>>> I like to put it in soup but I just can't get past it fresh and
>>> raw.

>>
>>The corner bakery sometimes does a spicy kale and potato soup with
>>sausage and it is very good. I had found it to be edible in salad,
>>but I can't handle it cooked as a side dish.

>
> Ribollita. I make it with sausage, potatoes, kale, cannellini
> beans, plus onions, cabbage, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
> It's a "clean out the fridge" soup. One of my husband's
> favourites.
>
> Doris
>


I can't handle kale in any form, although I like most other greens
like turnip, collard, mustard, dandelion, etc.


Wayne Boatwright

====

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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 22:20:12 -0400, Doris Night
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>On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 16:47:40 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 23:40:10 -0400, Doris Night
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 10:01:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 7/2/2017 6:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> But... Fresh tomatoes are something I almost always keep in the house.
>>>>> And if they look like they're starting to go bad, I will put them in a
>>>>> soup.
>>>>
>>>>Nice garden fresh tomatoes can be chopped up and frozen for many months.
>>>>Use to make a nice spaghetti sauce during the winter when stores only
>>>>sell lousy tomatoes. They freeze well and retain that garden taste.
>>>
>>>I blanche, peel, and freeze all of the roma tomatoes my husband grows.
>>>In ziploc bags, about 8-10 tomatoes to a bag.
>>>
>>>I use them in soup, stew, chili, etc.
>>>
>>>Doris

>>
>>
>>That dosen't make sense. I grow lots of romas but I turn them into
>>sauce *before* freezing... as a sauce they take lots less freezer
>>space and are ready for whatever. I see no benefit whatsoever in
>>freezing whole tomatoes as they come off the vine, with cores, skins,
>>and seeds. I'd think a year later when new tomatoes are ready those
>>frozen ones end up in the compost bin or more likely in the trash...
>>and then the tomato wasting cycle repeats itself.

>
>The skins and cores come off the tomatoes before freezing. (If you had
>read my post you might have seen that.)


Didn't see that.

>When tomatoes are on, I have
>neither the time nor the inclination to make tomato sauce.


Once peeled/seeded there's zero time/effort required, you've already
done all the labor... the pot simmers itself. And there is no more
time/effort required to place the finished sauce into containers than
to place raw tomatoes into zip-locs. Your method requires twice the
time/labor... and you'll use a lot more freezer space. Why would
anyone wnat to do everything twice for the same result?!?!?

And truth be known using home grown tomatoes for a cooked sauce wastes
a lot of gardening time/effort. It makes a lot more sense to use
canned tomatoes for cooked sauce, and use your home grown Romas for
salads/salsa verdes. I buy canned tomatoes at the big box store at
low prices by the case... then wait til winter (during a snow storm)
to prepare sauce.


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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 22:26:42 -0400, Doris Night
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>On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 21:12:33 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
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>
>>> Pretty much the only way I like green (or yellow) beans is freshly
>>> picked and steamed with butter.

>>
>>The only steamed food I like is tamales.

>
>I've never eaten tamales. Tex-Mex stuff isn't found around here.
>
>Doris


Where do you live, Tex-Mex is found everywhere in the US, and in most
of the rest of the planet.... probably the only place you won't find
Tex-Mex is in Central Mexico and in Central America... but you will
find excellent authentic tamales, not Taco Bell types.
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