On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 11:04:07 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 7/5/2017 1:17 PM, heyjoe wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 11:24:09 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> I often have avacodos on sale (or so).
>>
>> What is your sale price?? Around here (Central USA), avacado sale price
>> is $1.00 each. I would think about buying a couple for $0.75 each
>
>I bought a soft one at the store today for $1.25 (not a sale price).
>Thanks to Bruce and Dave for the ripeness advice.

Didja know that you can use asparagus to make guacamole.... will be
fat-free and will taste the same.
https://whatscookingamerica.net/Appe...sGuacamole.htm

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 7/5/2017 2:49 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> I don't know what happened to Lucretia. She used to be really nice


Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how they
have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at someone of
have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.

An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.

The different personalities is what make a group like this interesting
but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it just goes into
the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would be a great group of
people but on the keyboard, civility comes in second toan off hand dig.

=================

Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group

I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because there are
some lovely people and I would miss them (

They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated. A little
kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium here Complain
about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.

I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming tempted.
This becomes very tiring


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On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:41:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
>Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how they
>have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at someone of
>have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.
>
>An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
>when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.
>
>The different personalities is what make a group like this interesting
>but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it just goes into
>the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would be a great group of
>people but on the keyboard, civility comes in second toan off hand dig.
>
>=================
>
>Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group
>
>I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because there are
>some lovely people and I would miss them (
>
>They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated. A little
>kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium here Complain
>about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.
>
>I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming tempted.
>This becomes very tiring

On the other hand, if nastyness could kill this group, it would have
died a long time ago

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:41:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
>Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how they
>have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at someone of
>have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.
>
>An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
>when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.
>
>The different personalities is what make a group like this interesting
>but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it just goes into
>the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would be a great group of
>people but on the keyboard, civility comes in second toan off hand dig.
>
>=================
>
>Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group
>
>I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because there are
>some lovely people and I would miss them (
>
>They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated. A little
>kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium here Complain
>about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.
>
>I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming
>tempted.
>This becomes very tiring

On the other hand, if nastyness could kill this group, it would have
died a long time ago

==

But, Bruce, it didn't used to be this bad



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On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 08:02:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:41:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>
>>Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how they
>>have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at someone of
>>have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.
>>
>>An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
>>when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.
>>
>>The different personalities is what make a group like this interesting
>>but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it just goes into
>>the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would be a great group of
>>people but on the keyboard, civility comes in second toan off hand dig.
>>
>>=================
>>
>>Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group
>>
>>I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because there are
>>some lovely people and I would miss them (
>>
>>They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated. A little
>>kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium here Complain
>>about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.
>>
>>I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming
>>tempted.
>>This becomes very tiring
>
>On the other hand, if nastyness could kill this group, it would have
>died a long time ago
>
>==
>
>But, Bruce, it didn't used to be this bad

I've been here for a few years and it's always been like this, so you
must be referring to longer ago?

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 08:02:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:41:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>
>>Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how they
>>have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at someone of
>>have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.
>>
>>An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
>>when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.
>>
>>The different personalities is what make a group like this interesting
>>but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it just goes into
>>the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would be a great group of
>>people but on the keyboard, civility comes in second toan off hand dig.
>>
>>=================
>>
>>Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group
>>
>>I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because there
>>are
>>some lovely people and I would miss them (
>>
>>They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated. A
>>little
>>kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium here Complain
>>about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.
>>
>>I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming
>>tempted.
>>This becomes very tiring
>
>On the other hand, if nastyness could kill this group, it would have
>died a long time ago
>
>==
>
>But, Bruce, it didn't used to be this bad

I've been here for a few years and it's always been like this, so you
must be referring to longer ago?

==

Perhaps I am, but just recently ...

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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 7/8/2017 3:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 08:02:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:41:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how they
>>> have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at someone of
>>> have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.
>>>
>>> An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
>>> when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.
>>>
>>> The different personalities is what make a group like this interesting
>>> but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it just goes into
>>> the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would be a great group of
>>> people but on the keyboard, civility comes in second toan off hand dig.
>>>
>>> =================
>>>
>>> Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group
>>>
>>> I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because
>>> there are
>>> some lovely people and I would miss them (
>>>
>>> They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated. A
>>> little
>>> kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium here
>>> Complain
>>> about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.
>>>
>>> I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming
>>> tempted.
>>> This becomes very tiring
>>
>> On the other hand, if nastyness could kill this group, it would have
>> died a long time ago
>>
>> ==
>>
>> But, Bruce, it didn't used to be this bad
>
> I've been here for a few years and it's always been like this, so you
> must be referring to longer ago?
>
> ==
>
> Perhaps I am, but just recently ...
>

It has always been here but there was a lot more on-topic good material
along with it. Probably two dozen good posting people have gone away
and very few new people. A few years back, many ISPs stopped carrying
newsgroups and the decline started. There are a lot of people with
internet access that never heard of newsgroups or Google groups.

Anyone here with less than 5 or 10 years exposure to the groups? Doubt
it. Newbies tend to go to Facebook and the like.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 7/8/2017 3:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 08:02:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:41:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how they
>>> have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at someone of
>>> have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.
>>>
>>> An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
>>> when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.
>>>
>>> The different personalities is what make a group like this interesting
>>> but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it just goes into
>>> the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would be a great group of
>>> people but on the keyboard, civility comes in second toan off hand dig.
>>>
>>> =================
>>>
>>> Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group
>>>
>>> I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because there
>>> are
>>> some lovely people and I would miss them (
>>>
>>> They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated. A
>>> little
>>> kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium here
>>> Complain
>>> about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.
>>>
>>> I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming
>>> tempted.
>>> This becomes very tiring
>>
>> On the other hand, if nastyness could kill this group, it would have
>> died a long time ago
>>
>> ==
>>
>> But, Bruce, it didn't used to be this bad
>
> I've been here for a few years and it's always been like this, so you
> must be referring to longer ago?
>
> ==
>
> Perhaps I am, but just recently ...
>

It has always been here but there was a lot more on-topic good material
along with it. Probably two dozen good posting people have gone away
and very few new people. A few years back, many ISPs stopped carrying
newsgroups and the decline started. There are a lot of people with
internet access that never heard of newsgroups or Google groups.

Anyone here with less than 5 or 10 years exposure to the groups? Doubt
it. Newbies tend to go to Facebook and the like.

==

Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until the
poison moved in.

I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive ...

As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then watch out!

Another good group down the tubes.




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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:41:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>
>>Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how they
>>have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at someone of
>>have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.
>>
>>An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
>>when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.
>>
>>The different personalities is what make a group like this interesting
>>but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it just goes into
>>the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would be a great group of
>>people but on the keyboard, civility comes in second toan off hand dig.
>>
>>=================
>>
>>Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group
>>
>>I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because there
>>are
>>some lovely people and I would miss them (
>>
>>They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated. A
>>little
>>kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium here Complain
>>about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.
>>
>>I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming
>>tempted.
>>This becomes very tiring
>
> On the other hand, if nastyness could kill this group, it would have
> died a long time ago
>
> ==
>
> But, Bruce, it didn't used to be this bad

It's always been this way since I've been here.

Cheri

On 7/8/2017 12:14 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:41:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how they
>>> have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at someone of
>>> have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.
>>>
>>> An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
>>> when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.
>>>
>>> The different personalities is what make a group like this interesting
>>> but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it just goes into
>>> the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would be a great group of
>>> people but on the keyboard, civility comes in second toan off hand dig.
>>>
>>> =================
>>>
>>> Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group
>>>
>>> I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because
>>> there are
>>> some lovely people and I would miss them (
>>>
>>> They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated. A
>>> little
>>> kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium here
>>> Complain
>>> about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.
>>>
>>> I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming
>>> tempted.
>>> This becomes very tiring
>>
>> On the other hand, if nastyness could kill this group, it would have
>> died a long time ago
>>
>> ==
>>
>> But, Bruce, it didn't used to be this bad
>
> It's always been this way since I've been here.
>
> Cheri

RFC was known as the chaotic kitchen for a reason.

Jill

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44...



I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!

Wayne Boatwright

===

Oh that is a shame My granddaughter set it up for me and the only things
I see are family and friends.

I don't know how she did it but I never get any problems from anywhere.



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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>
>
>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
>> the poison moved in.
>>
>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>> ...
>>
>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>> watch out!
>>
>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>
>
>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!

Happily I did not join but as I understand it from a good IT guy, you
can draw a veil over your FB but never quite really delete it out
What I hated was the initial thing about 'liking', they really needed
a not liking button

There were too many people back then parroting 'If you haven't done
anything bad..." so there went all sorts of privacy.

On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>
>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
>> the poison moved in.
>>
>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>> ...
>>
>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>> watch out!
>>
>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>
>
>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!

It's not that hard to delete an FB account or to make sure you don't
get any emails from them. If you can configure a news reader, you can
do that too.

On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 19:02:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 11:30:37a, lucretia told us...
>
>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good
>>>> until the poison moved in.
>>>>
>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>> watch out!
>>>>
>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep
>>>in touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a
>>>while, along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted,
>>>never asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I
>>>deactivated my account several years ago, I've never been
>>>successful in actually deleting my account. I wish I had never
>>>heard of Facebook!
>>
>> Happily I did not join but as I understand it from a good IT guy,
>> you can draw a veil over your FB but never quite really delete it
>> out What I hated was the initial thing about 'liking', they
>> really needed a not liking button
>
>Exactly. You can "dectivate" your account, but regardless of what
>Facebook says, you cannot truly delete it. I always hated the
>"liking" feature, and they really did need a "not liking" button!
>
>> There were too many people back then parroting 'If you haven't
>> done anything bad..." so there went all sorts of privacy.
>>
>
>There was no sense of privacy whatsover. I had people from my
>childhood that I had no desire to "like" any way. Also, perfect
>strangers.

I don't think you can "like" entire people. Maybe you mean to say you
got friend requests from people.

On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:35:50 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>
>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
>>> the poison moved in.
>>>
>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>> ...
>>>
>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>> watch out!
>>>
>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>
>>
>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>>touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>>along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>>asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>>my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>>deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>
>It's not that hard to delete an FB account or to make sure you don't
>get any emails from them. If you can configure a news reader, you can
>do that too.

It allows you to think you have successfully deleted it.

On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:14:08 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:35:50 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>
>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
>>>> the poison moved in.
>>>>
>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>> watch out!
>>>>
>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>>>touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>>>along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>>>asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>>>my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>>>deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>
>>It's not that hard to delete an FB account or to make sure you don't
>>get any emails from them. If you can configure a news reader, you can
>>do that too.
>
>It allows you to think you have successfully deleted it.

But how do you know you haven't successfully deleted it? I had an
account once, got fed up, deleted it (don't touch it for 2 weeks or
you reactivate it) and I never heard from them again. Until I started
a new account.

Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ... >On 2017-07-07, Terry
> Coombs > wrote:
> >
> > > kill-file them as a general rule .
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > KF the name "Trump" and it reduces the noise by at least 50%.
> >
> > nb
>
>
> If I remember correctly, you were very helpful in that group, also Ed
> and many others that seem to have left. I check it occasionally to
> see if it's gotten better, but I unsubcribed after a few years of the
> riff-raff garbage.
>
> Cheri

I used to help folks with how to rescreen or screen a wooden porch. I
left Newsgroups for about 2 years and when I came back, it was all
trash.

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wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 11:04:07 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > On 7/5/2017 1:17 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> >> On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 11:24:09 -0400, Gary wrote:
> > >
> >>> I often have avacodos on sale (or so).
> > >
> >> What is your sale price?? Around here (Central USA), avacado sale
> price >> is $1.00 each. I would think about buying a couple for
> $0.75 each
> >
> > I bought a soft one at the store today for $1.25 (not a sale
> > price). Thanks to Bruce and Dave for the ripeness advice.
>
> Didja know that you can use asparagus to make guacamole.... will be
> fat-free and will taste the same.
> https://whatscookingamerica.net/Appe...sGuacamole.htm

No, it does not taste the same.

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Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:41:04 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > Just abut everyone here should take a deep breath and assess how
> > they have been posting. Most people here have either snipped at
> > someone of have been snipped by someone. Civility is draining away.
> >
> > An infusion of new people would help, but just look at what happened
> > when a new guy did show up, though he was a little part of it too.
> >
> > The different personalities is what make a group like this
> > interesting but when the insults and derogatory comments start, it
> > just goes into the dumper. My guess is that in person, this would
> > be a great group of people but on the keyboard, civility comes in
> > second toan off hand dig.
> >
> > =================
> >
> > Ed, this is exactly what poisoned and killed off the UK group
> >
> > I can see it happening here and that would be a big shame because
> > there are some lovely people and I would miss them (
> >
> > They mostly went off to Facebook where nastiness isn't tolerated.
> > A little kindness goes a long way but it seems to be at a premium
> > here Complain about bad treatment and YOU are to blame.
> >
> > I am often invited to join the group and I must admit I am becoming
> > tempted. This becomes very tiring
>
> On the other hand, if nastyness could kill this group, it would have
> died a long time ago
>
> ==
>
> But, Bruce, it didn't used to be this bad

It goes in swings.

--

Hi Terry,

Lets see if we can narrow in a little on what you are looking for in
Fiber diets? Don't worry if these 2 don't match, I'm just narrowing the
field.

Here's 2 bread recipes. I centered on Oats. The first one may be a
little on the dry side and need 2 TB more liquid, especially if using
fresh apples.

This set was in my eye as my apple trees are in full fruit now. I had
so many, a friend came and picked 5 plastic grocery bags (partly full
so they wouldn't bruise) this morning.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: APPLE OAT BREAD
Categories: Whole wheat, None, Oat, Breadmaker
Yield: 1 Servings

1/2 c Water
1 1/3 c Bread Flour
2/3 c Whole-Wheat Flour
2 ts Nonfat Dried Milk
1 ts Salt
2 ts Applesauce
1/2 c Canned/chopped apples
1 tb Concentrated apple juice
2 ts Lemon juice
1 tb Honey
2 tb Yogurt,Plain, Non-Fat
2 ts Molasses
1/4 c Oats
2 ts Yeast

1 POUND LOAF Marie Frainier *DGCP02C*

MMMMM

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: APPLE OATMEAL RAISIN BREAD
Categories: Breadmaker
Yield: 1 Servings

2/3 c Apple juice
1 tb Butter or margarine
1/2 ts Salt
1/4 ts Cinnamon
1 tb Brown sugar
2 tb Oat bran
1 c Oats
1 c Bread flour
1 ts Yeast
At beep add:
1/3 c Raisins
1/3 c Apple; diced
1/4 c Chopped nuts; optional

Recipe by: EAT-L, Donna German The Bread Machine Cookbook II

MMMMM

lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
> > On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
> >
> >
> >> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
> >> the poison moved in.
> >>
> >> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
> >> ...
> >>
> >> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
> >> watch out!
> >>
> >> Another good group down the tubes.
> >>
> >
> > I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep
> > in touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a
> > while, along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted,
> > never asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I
> > deactivated my account several years ago, I've never been
> > successful in actually deleting my account. I wish I had never
> > heard of Facebook!
>
> Happily I did not join but as I understand it from a good IT guy, you
> can draw a veil over your FB but never quite really delete it out
> What I hated was the initial thing about 'liking', they really needed
> a not liking button
>
> There were too many people back then parroting 'If you haven't done
> anything bad..." so there went all sorts of privacy.

Yes, the primary thing with FB is they have frequently 'improved your
experience' by undoing your security settings.

They came in with a court order in the USA some 8 or more years ago
requirng they actually DELETE accounts fully on member request. They
didnt make it easy, but you can do it now.

--

On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 06:17:06 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:14:08 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:35:50 +1000, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
>>>>> the poison moved in.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>>> watch out!
>>>>>
>>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>>>>touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>>>>along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>>>>asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>>>>my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>>>>deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>>
>>>It's not that hard to delete an FB account or to make sure you don't
>>>get any emails from them. If you can configure a news reader, you can
>>>do that too.
>>
>>It allows you to think you have successfully deleted it.
>
>But how do you know you haven't successfully deleted it? I had an
>account once, got fed up, deleted it (don't touch it for 2 weeks or
>you reactivate it) and I never heard from them again. Until I started
>a new account.

I was never interested in it but have discussed it with a couple of IT
guys who know way more than I. You could definitely retrieve it if
you wished, think of all the discussion there was over people who died
and the page went on even though it upset the nearest and dearest.

On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 18:46:57 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 06:17:06 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:14:08 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:35:50 +1000, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
>>>>>> the poison moved in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>>>> watch out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>>>>>touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>>>>>along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>>>>>asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>>>>>my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>>>>>deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>>>
>>>>It's not that hard to delete an FB account or to make sure you don't
>>>>get any emails from them. If you can configure a news reader, you can
>>>>do that too.
>>>
>>>It allows you to think you have successfully deleted it.
>>
>>But how do you know you haven't successfully deleted it? I had an
>>account once, got fed up, deleted it (don't touch it for 2 weeks or
>>you reactivate it) and I never heard from them again. Until I started
>>a new account.
>
>I was never interested in it but have discussed it with a couple of IT
>guys who know way more than I. You could definitely retrieve it if
>you wished, think of all the discussion there was over people who died
>and the page went on even though it upset the nearest and dearest.

Well, I deleted my page without a problem.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
> 9.44...
>
>
>
> I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
> touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
> along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
> asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
> my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
> deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>
> Wayne Boatwright
>
> ===
>
> Oh that is a shame My granddaughter set it up for me and the only
> things I see are family and friends.
>
> I don't know how she did it but I never get any problems from anywhere.

That you know of. I was recently alerted to the fact that someone is
"liking" stuff for us. Sure enough, I had liked many TV shows, businesses
and products. Some, I had never heard of and never patronized or never
would. You should check your account.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 19:02:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 11:30:37a, lucretia told us...
>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good
>>>>> until the poison moved in.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>>> watch out!
>>>>>
>>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep
>>>>in touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a
>>>>while, along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted,
>>>>never asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I
>>>>deactivated my account several years ago, I've never been
>>>>successful in actually deleting my account. I wish I had never
>>>>heard of Facebook!
>>>
>>> Happily I did not join but as I understand it from a good IT guy,
>>> you can draw a veil over your FB but never quite really delete it
>>> out What I hated was the initial thing about 'liking', they
>>> really needed a not liking button
>>
>>Exactly. You can "dectivate" your account, but regardless of what
>>Facebook says, you cannot truly delete it. I always hated the
>>"liking" feature, and they really did need a "not liking" button!
>>
>>> There were too many people back then parroting 'If you haven't
>>> done anything bad..." so there went all sorts of privacy.
>>>
>>
>>There was no sense of privacy whatsover. I had people from my
>>childhood that I had no desire to "like" any way. Also, perfect
>>strangers.
>
> I don't think you can "like" entire people. Maybe you mean to say you
> got friend requests from people.

You can if they are celebrities.

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 18:30:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 19:02:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 11:30:37a, lucretia told us...
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good
>>>>>> until the poison moved in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>>>> watch out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep
>>>>>in touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a
>>>>>while, along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted,
>>>>>never asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I
>>>>>deactivated my account several years ago, I've never been
>>>>>successful in actually deleting my account. I wish I had never
>>>>>heard of Facebook!
>>>>
>>>> Happily I did not join but as I understand it from a good IT guy,
>>>> you can draw a veil over your FB but never quite really delete it
>>>> out What I hated was the initial thing about 'liking', they
>>>> really needed a not liking button
>>>
>>>Exactly. You can "dectivate" your account, but regardless of what
>>>Facebook says, you cannot truly delete it. I always hated the
>>>"liking" feature, and they really did need a "not liking" button!
>>>
>>>> There were too many people back then parroting 'If you haven't
>>>> done anything bad..." so there went all sorts of privacy.
>>>>
>>>
>>>There was no sense of privacy whatsover. I had people from my
>>>childhood that I had no desire to "like" any way. Also, perfect
>>>strangers.
>>
>> I don't think you can "like" entire people. Maybe you mean to say you
>> got friend requests from people.
>
>You can if they are celebrities.

But would Wayne have many celebrities amongst people from his
childhood?

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 18:30:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 19:02:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 11:30:37a, lucretia told us...
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good
>>>>>>> until the poison moved in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>>>>> watch out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep
>>>>>>in touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a
>>>>>>while, along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted,
>>>>>>never asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I
>>>>>>deactivated my account several years ago, I've never been
>>>>>>successful in actually deleting my account. I wish I had never
>>>>>>heard of Facebook!
>>>>>
>>>>> Happily I did not join but as I understand it from a good IT guy,
>>>>> you can draw a veil over your FB but never quite really delete it
>>>>> out What I hated was the initial thing about 'liking', they
>>>>> really needed a not liking button
>>>>
>>>>Exactly. You can "dectivate" your account, but regardless of what
>>>>Facebook says, you cannot truly delete it. I always hated the
>>>>"liking" feature, and they really did need a "not liking" button!
>>>>
>>>>> There were too many people back then parroting 'If you haven't
>>>>> done anything bad..." so there went all sorts of privacy.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There was no sense of privacy whatsover. I had people from my
>>>>childhood that I had no desire to "like" any way. Also, perfect
>>>>strangers.
>>>
>>> I don't think you can "like" entire people. Maybe you mean to say you
>>> got friend requests from people.
>>
>>You can if they are celebrities.
>
> But would Wayne have many celebrities amongst people from his
> childhood?

I have no clue.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 18:46:57 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 06:17:06 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:14:08 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:35:50 +1000, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
>>>>>> the poison moved in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>>>> watch out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>>>>>touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>>>>>along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>>>>>asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>>>>>my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>>>>>deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>>>
>>>>It's not that hard to delete an FB account or to make sure you don't
>>>>get any emails from them. If you can configure a news reader, you can
>>>>do that too.
>>>
>>>It allows you to think you have successfully deleted it.
>>
>>But how do you know you haven't successfully deleted it? I had an
>>account once, got fed up, deleted it (don't touch it for 2 weeks or
>>you reactivate it) and I never heard from them again. Until I started
>>a new account.
>
>I was never interested in it but have discussed it with a couple of IT
>guys who know way more than I. You could definitely retrieve it if
>you wished, think of all the discussion there was over people who died
>and the page went on even though it upset the nearest and dearest.

Well, I deleted my page without a problem.

==

How so you do that?



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Julie Bove" wrote in message news

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
> 9.44...
>
>
>
> I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
> touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
> along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
> asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
> my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
> deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>
> Wayne Boatwright
>
> ===
>
> Oh that is a shame My granddaughter set it up for me and the only
> things I see are family and friends.
>
> I don't know how she did it but I never get any problems from anywhere.

That you know of. I was recently alerted to the fact that someone is
"liking" stuff for us. Sure enough, I had liked many TV shows, businesses
and products. Some, I had never heard of and never patronized or never
would. You should check your account.

===

I am reading family and friends. I don't know what anyone else would be
interested in. But I think if I had 'problems' I would know it!

Years ago, I joined fb on the request of a friend on the group and got the
kind of problems you describe but I simply stopped and the mails eventually
stopped too.

I didn't know how to close an account though.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 08:03:55 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 18:46:57 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 06:17:06 +1000, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:14:08 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:35:50 +1000, Bruce >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
>>>>>>> the poison moved in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>>>>> watch out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>>>>>>touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>>>>>>along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>>>>>>asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>>>>>>my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>>>>>>deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not that hard to delete an FB account or to make sure you don't
>>>>>get any emails from them. If you can configure a news reader, you can
>>>>>do that too.
>>>>
>>>>It allows you to think you have successfully deleted it.
>>>
>>>But how do you know you haven't successfully deleted it? I had an
>>>account once, got fed up, deleted it (don't touch it for 2 weeks or
>>>you reactivate it) and I never heard from them again. Until I started
>>>a new account.
>>
>>I was never interested in it but have discussed it with a couple of IT
>>guys who know way more than I. You could definitely retrieve it if
>>you wished, think of all the discussion there was over people who died
>>and the page went on even though it upset the nearest and dearest.
>
>Well, I deleted my page without a problem.
>
>==
>
>How so you do that?

I can't remember exactly, but I googled it and followed the
instructions. I do remember that it said I couldn't access my FB page
for 2 weeks after deleting it or it would be reactivated. After 2
weeks of no access it would be gone.

On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 08:10:39 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
>> 9.44...
>>
>>
>>
>> I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>> touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>> along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>> asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>> my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>> deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>
>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Oh that is a shame My granddaughter set it up for me and the only
>> things I see are family and friends.
>>
>> I don't know how she did it but I never get any problems from anywhere.
>
>That you know of. I was recently alerted to the fact that someone is
>"liking" stuff for us. Sure enough, I had liked many TV shows, businesses
>and products. Some, I had never heard of and never patronized or never
>would. You should check your account.
>
>===
>
>I am reading family and friends. I don't know what anyone else would be
>interested in. But I think if I had 'problems' I would know it!
>
>Years ago, I joined fb on the request of a friend on the group and got the
>kind of problems you describe but I simply stopped and the mails eventually
>stopped too.
>
>I didn't know how to close an account though.

I had it too once that someone or something was "liking" crazy stuff
on my behalf. It was kind of funny. After I changed my FB password, it
stopped.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 08:10:39 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
>> 9.44...
>>
>>
>>
>> I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>> touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>> along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>> asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>> my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>> deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>
>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Oh that is a shame My granddaughter set it up for me and the only
>> things I see are family and friends.
>>
>> I don't know how she did it but I never get any problems from anywhere.
>
>That you know of. I was recently alerted to the fact that someone is
>"liking" stuff for us. Sure enough, I had liked many TV shows, businesses
>and products. Some, I had never heard of and never patronized or never
>would. You should check your account.
>
>===
>
>I am reading family and friends. I don't know what anyone else would be
>interested in. But I think if I had 'problems' I would know it!
>
>Years ago, I joined fb on the request of a friend on the group and got the
>kind of problems you describe but I simply stopped and the mails eventually
>stopped too.
>
>I didn't know how to close an account though.

I had it too once that someone or something was "liking" crazy stuff
on my behalf. It was kind of funny. After I changed my FB password, it
stopped.

==

Ahh yes.



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 08:03:55 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 18:46:57 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 06:17:06 +1000, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:14:08 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:35:50 +1000, Bruce >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really good until
>>>>>>> the poison moved in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more attractive
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people. Then
>>>>>>> watch out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>>>>>>touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>>>>>>along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>>>>>>asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>>>>>>my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>>>>>>deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not that hard to delete an FB account or to make sure you don't
>>>>>get any emails from them. If you can configure a news reader, you can
>>>>>do that too.
>>>>
>>>>It allows you to think you have successfully deleted it.
>>>
>>>But how do you know you haven't successfully deleted it? I had an
>>>account once, got fed up, deleted it (don't touch it for 2 weeks or
>>>you reactivate it) and I never heard from them again. Until I started
>>>a new account.
>>
>>I was never interested in it but have discussed it with a couple of IT
>>guys who know way more than I. You could definitely retrieve it if
>>you wished, think of all the discussion there was over people who died
>>and the page went on even though it upset the nearest and dearest.
>
>Well, I deleted my page without a problem.
>
>==
>
>How so you do that?

I can't remember exactly, but I googled it and followed the
instructions. I do remember that it said I couldn't access my FB page
for 2 weeks after deleting it or it would be reactivated. After 2
weeks of no access it would be gone.

==

Thanks!



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 09:13:22 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sun 09 Jul 2017 01:53:42a, Ophelia told us...
>
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 08:03:55 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 18:46:57 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 06:17:06 +1000, Bruce >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:14:08 -0300, lucretia
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:35:50 +1000, Bruce
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:13:42 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat 08 Jul 2017 07:45:31a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it happened in the UK group! It used to be really
>>>>>>>>> good until the poison moved in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have never fancied Facebook much but it become more
>>>>>>>>> attractive ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As time goes on, it will happen with more and more people.
>>>>>>>>> Then watch out!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another good group down the tubes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to
>>>>>>>>keep in touch with family and friends. Although that worked
>>>>>>>>for a while, along with it came a shit load of crap that I
>>>>>>>>never wanted, never asked for and could not manage to get rid
>>>>>>>>of. Although I deactivated my account several years ago,
>>>>>>>>I've never been successful in actually deleting my account.
>>>>>>>>I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's not that hard to delete an FB account or to make sure you
>>>>>>>don't get any emails from them. If you can configure a news
>>>>>>>reader, you can do that too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It allows you to think you have successfully deleted it.
>>>>>
>>>>>But how do you know you haven't successfully deleted it? I had
>>>>>an account once, got fed up, deleted it (don't touch it for 2
>>>>>weeks or you reactivate it) and I never heard from them again.
>>>>>Until I started a new account.
>>>>
>>>>I was never interested in it but have discussed it with a couple
>>>>of IT guys who know way more than I. You could definitely
>>>>retrieve it if you wished, think of all the discussion there was
>>>>over people who died and the page went on even though it upset
>>>>the nearest and dearest.
>>>
>>>Well, I deleted my page without a problem.
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>>How so you do that?
>>
>> I can't remember exactly, but I googled it and followed the
>> instructions. I do remember that it said I couldn't access my FB
>> page for 2 weeks after deleting it or it would be reactivated.
>> After 2 weeks of no access it would be gone.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>
>Ah, but it isn't really gone. It has only been deactivated. As long
>as you remember your login and pasword, you can reactivate it at any
>future time, even years later.

Even if that was true, it wouldn't keep me awake at night.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
>> 9.44...
>>
>>
>>
>> I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>> touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>> along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>> asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>> my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>> deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>
>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Oh that is a shame My granddaughter set it up for me and the only
>> things I see are family and friends.
>>
>> I don't know how she did it but I never get any problems from anywhere.
>
> That you know of. I was recently alerted to the fact that someone is
> "liking" stuff for us. Sure enough, I had liked many TV shows, businesses
> and products. Some, I had never heard of and never patronized or never
> would. You should check your account.
>
> ===
>
> I am reading family and friends. I don't know what anyone else would be
> interested in. But I think if I had 'problems' I would know it!
>
> Years ago, I joined fb on the request of a friend on the group and got the
> kind of problems you describe but I simply stopped and the mails
> eventually stopped too.
>
> I didn't know how to close an account though.

I certainly didn't know. I am not one to go around "liking" all sorts of
things. I only looked when a friend pointed out that his wife suddenly liked
all these things that he knew she wouldn't. He thought it was Zuckerberg or
someone else with Facebook using us as a form of free advertisement. I had
nothing better to do so checked my account. Sure enough, someone went in
there and "liked" a ton of things, perhaps partly based on my age, such as
TV shows that were around when I was a kid. And perhaps partly based on
other things that I actually did like. Such as Tillamook cheese. The person
who did this must have assumed I was a big dairy liker or something. All of
a sudden I liked things like Yoplait and other yogurts, ice cream companies
and even other places that make cheese. Just not cool.

I would normally not even have a reason to check to see what I liked. Which
is how they are getting away with it. And it was not just me. After I
pointed this out, many others noticed the same thing.

On 7/8/2017 4:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Hi Terry,
>
> Lets see if we can narrow in a little on what you are looking for in
> Fiber diets? Don't worry if these 2 don't match, I'm just narrowing the
> field.
>
> Here's 2 bread recipes. I centered on Oats. The first one may be a
> little on the dry side and need 2 TB more liquid, especially if using
> fresh apples.
>
> This set was in my eye as my apple trees are in full fruit now. I had
> so many, a friend came and picked 5 plastic grocery bags (partly full
> so they wouldn't bruise) this morning.
>
>
> MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
>
> Title: APPLE OAT BREAD
> Categories: Whole wheat, None, Oat, Breadmaker
> Yield: 1 Servings
>
> 1/2 c Water
> 1 1/3 c Bread Flour
> 2/3 c Whole-Wheat Flour
> 2 ts Nonfat Dried Milk
> 1 ts Salt
> 2 ts Applesauce
> 1/2 c Canned/chopped apples
> 1 tb Concentrated apple juice
> 2 ts Lemon juice
> 1 tb Honey
> 2 tb Yogurt,Plain, Non-Fat
> 2 ts Molasses
> 1/4 c Oats
> 2 ts Yeast
>
> 1 POUND LOAF Marie Frainier *DGCP02C*
>
> MMMMM
>
> MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
>
> Title: APPLE OATMEAL RAISIN BREAD
> Categories: Breadmaker
> Yield: 1 Servings
>
> 2/3 c Apple juice
> 1 tb Butter or margarine
> 1/2 ts Salt
> 1/4 ts Cinnamon
> 1 tb Brown sugar
> 2 tb Oat bran
> 1 c Oats
> 1 c Bread flour
> 1 ts Yeast
> At beep add:
> 1/3 c Raisins
> 1/3 c Apple; diced
> 1/4 c Chopped nuts; optional
>
> Recipe by: EAT-L, Donna German The Bread Machine Cookbook II
>
> MMMMM
>

Saved in my desktop recipe files . That 2nd one sounds especially
yummy , Thanks !

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
>> 9.44...
>>
>>
>>
>> I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>> touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>> along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>> asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>> my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>> deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>
>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Oh that is a shame My granddaughter set it up for me and the only
>> things I see are family and friends.
>>
>> I don't know how she did it but I never get any problems from anywhere.
>
> That you know of. I was recently alerted to the fact that someone is
> "liking" stuff for us. Sure enough, I had liked many TV shows, businesses
> and products. Some, I had never heard of and never patronized or never
> would. You should check your account.
>
> ===
>
> I am reading family and friends. I don't know what anyone else would be
> interested in. But I think if I had 'problems' I would know it!
>
> Years ago, I joined fb on the request of a friend on the group and got the
> kind of problems you describe but I simply stopped and the mails
> eventually stopped too.
>
> I didn't know how to close an account though.

I certainly didn't know. I am not one to go around "liking" all sorts of
things. I only looked when a friend pointed out that his wife suddenly liked
all these things that he knew she wouldn't. He thought it was Zuckerberg or
someone else with Facebook using us as a form of free advertisement. I had
nothing better to do so checked my account. Sure enough, someone went in
there and "liked" a ton of things, perhaps partly based on my age, such as
TV shows that were around when I was a kid. And perhaps partly based on
other things that I actually did like. Such as Tillamook cheese. The person
who did this must have assumed I was a big dairy liker or something. All of
a sudden I liked things like Yoplait and other yogurts, ice cream companies
and even other places that make cheese. Just not cool.

I would normally not even have a reason to check to see what I liked. Which
is how they are getting away with it. And it was not just me. After I
pointed this out, many others noticed the same thing.

===

Did you read what Bruce said? He had the same until he changed his password
and then it stopped.



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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >>
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
>>> 9.44...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>>> touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>>> along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>>> asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>>> my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>>> deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Oh that is a shame My granddaughter set it up for me and the only
>>> things I see are family and friends.
>>>
>>> I don't know how she did it but I never get any problems from anywhere.
>>
>> That you know of. I was recently alerted to the fact that someone is
>> "liking" stuff for us. Sure enough, I had liked many TV shows, businesses
>> and products. Some, I had never heard of and never patronized or never
>> would. You should check your account.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I am reading family and friends. I don't know what anyone else would be
>> interested in. But I think if I had 'problems' I would know it!
>>
>> Years ago, I joined fb on the request of a friend on the group and got
>> the kind of problems you describe but I simply stopped and the mails
>> eventually stopped too.
>>
>> I didn't know how to close an account though.
>
> I certainly didn't know. I am not one to go around "liking" all sorts of
> things. I only looked when a friend pointed out that his wife suddenly
> liked
> all these things that he knew she wouldn't. He thought it was Zuckerberg
> or
> someone else with Facebook using us as a form of free advertisement. I had
> nothing better to do so checked my account. Sure enough, someone went in
> there and "liked" a ton of things, perhaps partly based on my age, such as
> TV shows that were around when I was a kid. And perhaps partly based on
> other things that I actually did like. Such as Tillamook cheese. The
> person
> who did this must have assumed I was a big dairy liker or something. All
> of
> a sudden I liked things like Yoplait and other yogurts, ice cream
> companies
> and even other places that make cheese. Just not cool.
>
> I would normally not even have a reason to check to see what I liked.
> Which
> is how they are getting away with it. And it was not just me. After I
> pointed this out, many others noticed the same thing.
>
> ===
>
> Did you read what Bruce said? He had the same until he changed his
> password and then it stopped.

Mine has stopped. Didn't change my password.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >>
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
>>> 9.44...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I joined Facebook the first year it was introduced, hoping to keep in
>>> touch with family and friends. Although that worked for a while,
>>> along with it came a shit load of crap that I never wanted, never
>>> asked for and could not manage to get rid of. Although I deactivated
>>> my account several years ago, I've never been successful in actually
>>> deleting my account. I wish I had never heard of Facebook!
>>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Oh that is a shame My granddaughter set it up for me and the only
>>> things I see are family and friends.
>>>
>>> I don't know how she did it but I never get any problems from anywhere.
>>
>> That you know of. I was recently alerted to the fact that someone is
>> "liking" stuff for us. Sure enough, I had liked many TV shows, businesses
>> and products. Some, I had never heard of and never patronized or never
>> would. You should check your account.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I am reading family and friends. I don't know what anyone else would be
>> interested in. But I think if I had 'problems' I would know it!
>>
>> Years ago, I joined fb on the request of a friend on the group and got
>> the kind of problems you describe but I simply stopped and the mails
>> eventually stopped too.
>>
>> I didn't know how to close an account though.
>
> I certainly didn't know. I am not one to go around "liking" all sorts of
> things. I only looked when a friend pointed out that his wife suddenly
> liked
> all these things that he knew she wouldn't. He thought it was Zuckerberg
> or
> someone else with Facebook using us as a form of free advertisement. I had
> nothing better to do so checked my account. Sure enough, someone went in
> there and "liked" a ton of things, perhaps partly based on my age, such as
> TV shows that were around when I was a kid. And perhaps partly based on
> other things that I actually did like. Such as Tillamook cheese. The
> person
> who did this must have assumed I was a big dairy liker or something. All
> of
> a sudden I liked things like Yoplait and other yogurts, ice cream
> companies
> and even other places that make cheese. Just not cool.
>
> I would normally not even have a reason to check to see what I liked.
> Which
> is how they are getting away with it. And it was not just me. After I
> pointed this out, many others noticed the same thing.
>
> ===
>
> Did you read what Bruce said? He had the same until he changed his
> password and then it stopped.

Mine has stopped. Didn't change my password.
==

Nor did I but it took a long time.


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On 7/8/2017 9:57 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>A few years back, many ISPs stopped carrying
> newsgroups and the decline started. There are a lot of people with
> internet access that never heard of newsgroups or Google groups.
>
> Anyone here with less than 5 or 10 years exposure to the groups? Doubt
> it. Newbies tend to go to Facebook and the like.

Very true, Ed. All that I talk to here locally has never even heard of
usenet. I always have to explain it. Most use Facebook or Google Groups.

If Dsi1 thinks that Google Groups is the future trend, it's a sad future
imo. :-(