On 7/13/2017 6:49 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 7/13/2017 7:12 AM, sanne wrote:
>> Put it on "stilts".
>> Seriously - I glued something under my laptop to allow better
>> cooling. It works.
>
> You definitely need to keep the bottom clear. Don't set it on your bed
> as the ventilation comes out of the bottom.
>
> I'm wondering... Do laptops contain a small fan like desktops? I had
> to replace a broken fan on my desktop. Just wondering if a laptop has
> a tiny fan and maybe Bruce's quit working. I've never opened one up to
> see what is inside.
>
> I'll bet you Stevers(TM) knows if laptops contain fans. I would think
> they need to.
>
Yes , they have fans . I also have a Toshiba that has overheat
problems ... an A215 series , and it cost me replacing a motherboard
when it shut down in the middle of a BIOS update . Mine is set up a
little with some fat o-rings glued around the "feet" , but still does it
on occasion . One thing that really does help is to blow the
heatsink/fan unit out every couple of weeks with compressed air . Stick
a toothpick into the fan blades to keep from over-revving the fan . That
comp is relegated now to being used as an audio source for my stereo ,
and is the only comp in the house used to access my bank accounts .

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On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 4:10:51 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1.com> wrote in message
> ...
> On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 1:39:33 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > On 7/13/2017 6:34 AM, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > Gary wrote:
> > >> That said....if they will let you schedule update times, just pick a
> > >> time that you won't be using the computer for a while. Like maybe
> > >> schedule for a Saturday night (and leave your computer on and online
> > >> that night)
> > >>
> > >> Just an idea.
> > >
> > > Apart from having startup problems, my laptop also overheats, so I
> > > don't want to leave it on overnight. Normally it turns itself off very
> > > abruptly when it overheats, but I don't want to rely on that.
> > >
> > > The bottom line: don't buy a Toshiba laptop
> >
> > Just happens that I DO have Toshiba laptop. It's never overheated as
> > long as you have it on a flat hard surface. Just mine though. I don't
> > know about yours.
> >
> > I have a Toshiba
> > Model "Satellite L505D"
> > Running Win7 Home Premium
> > Physical RAM is 2gb
> > Don't see the HD size but it's more than I'll ever need.
> >
> > anyway, after running awhile, I can feel the bottom getting hot but as
> > long as I keep the vents clear, I've never had it overheat.
> >
> > As I said in a previous post, this is my newest computer so I'll use it
> > probably until it times out. My next computer will definitely be a
> > desktop with wired in keyboard and mouse. Sorry, Dsi1. I prefer the
> > "traditional" ways of computing.
> >
> > I just found a new monitor for my old Win98 computer...only $7 at a
> > local thrift store....boioinnggg. Now that that computer is working
> > again, I'll probably revert back to using my favorite Netscape 4.7
> > newsreader. It's perfect for Usenet text messages and all the changes
> > made since are not as good, imo.
> >
> > Old saying...."if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
>
> Don't apologize to me - it doesn't matter to me what other people do. I have
> a Toshiba laptop running Win 7 also. I hate that thing. The battery sucks so
> I have to keep it turned off most times. This practice means that I have to
> boot up every time I want to use it. That takes sooooo long.
>
> The Chromebook I'm using to post this message takes 7 seconds to boot up and
> about 2 to shut down. I don't really have to shut it off. As far as heat
> management goes, it has no fan or even vents and doesn't get hot.
>
> The Toshiba laptop was the bee's knees when it first came out - a real road
> warrior. In the modern world, however, it sucks big time.
>
> ======
>
> Which Chromebook model do you have if you don't mind my asking.
>
> Cheri

ASUS Flip C100P. I like it a lot.

dsi1 wrote:
>Bruce wrote:
>>Gary wrote:
>> >Ophelia wrote:
>> >>Bruce wrote:
>> >>Gary wrote:
>> >>>Bruce wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But when my computer does an update at night and I turn it on the next
>> >>>> morning, it wants to finish the update. I get no choice.
>> >>>
>> >>> Why not turn off the update feature completely? Then only let it update
>> >>> when you have plenty of time to wait for it. That's what I do.
>> >>>
>> >>> Control Panel --> "Windows Update"
>> >>
>> >> I found this about Windows 10:
>> >>
>> >> "First are the home users who will not have the option to defer
>> >> upgrades. The updates will download and install even if they are
>> >> working on something, making the computer slow in some cases. The PC
>> >> however would restart only if you are not doing anything or it would
>> >> restart at the scheduled time, if you have set one. "
>> >> ==
>> >> Ahh you have Win10! I know nothing about that one.
>> >
>> >ME TOO! (aol lingo)
>> >I'm using Win7.
>> >If Win10 won't let you skip automatic updates, that's getting way too
>> >intrusive, imo.
>> >
>> >That said....if they will let you schedule update times, just pick a
>> >time that you won't be using the computer for a while. Like maybe
>> >schedule for a Saturday night (and leave your computer on and online
>> >that night)
>> >
>> >Just an idea.
>>
>> Apart from having startup problems, my laptop also overheats, so I
>> don't want to leave it on overnight. Normally it turns itself off very
>> abruptly when it overheats, but I don't want to rely on that.
>>
>> The bottom line: don't buy a Toshiba laptop
>
>The bottom line: clean your vents and fan intake screen.

All computers overheat if not cleaned regularly and become filled with
schmutz... and when the fan blades become caked with schmutz they
become unbalanced and slow or stop. With my desktop I tape a piece of
A/C air filter matrix over the air intake screen... the perforations
in the PC cabinet do pitifully little to keep schmutz out... the only
real filtration occurs by a layer of accumulated schmutz. I change
the filter about every three months, the inside of my PC stays
dust-free and the small snippet of filter material and a bit of
masking tape costs pennies. I've no idea why the computer
manufactures don't make a provision for air filtration elements...
probably because filthy computers don't last so they sell more.

Automobile engines use air filters, even the cheapest push lawn mower
uses an air filter.... long ago my aquarium air compressor had an
intake air filter. Better automobiles filter intake cabin air, my
tractor cab has a cabin filter.