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On 7/9/2017 4:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta for > awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay covers the > teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet visits (I think 5) > per year and fecal testing. I think that is up to 2-3 times per year. > The main reason I get it is for the teeth cleaning. Would cost more > without it. How much is a teeth cleaning that you save by spending $840 a year to get it cheaper? I never spent that much in a yer for any of our dogs. I'd not buy the insurance. |
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On 2017-07-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> I don't know about dogs, but cats have to be put under general > anesthesia to have their teeth cleaned. Dogs, also. My mom's dog had really bad breath. Turns out it was rotten teeth which needed to be pulled. After pulling, Bubble's (the dog's name) bad teeth, her breath was good fer another 5 yrs, then another tooth pulling session. > IIRC, the total cost for one cat was around $700-800. We soon > learned how to clean all of cats' teeth ourselves. I think Bubble's bill was under $500. Still..... nb |
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On 2017-07-09, cshenk > wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote in rec.food.cooking: >> That's not unusual for the US. > Actually, yes it is. The pet insurance market here is almost useless. No, it IS not! My ex was once a veterinary asst. My brother hadda find a vet --after 10pm, on a Sun night-- to care for his dog. If someone got me outta bed to work on their dog, I'd have charged 'em $1,500USD, too.  nb |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > "Julie Bove" wrote in message news 
>> > "Bruce" > wrote in message > ... >> On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:16:33 -0400, wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 15:24:19 +1000, Bruce > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:50:26 -0700, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... >>>>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> "Bruce" wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 23:00:12 -0700, "Cheri" > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>news:nfl0mc1hoe4muglq3odggff88r4n93f69s@4a x.com... >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Jul 2017 21:13:40 -0500, "cshenk" > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > I bet I come home to 1/2 bottle of rum, a few cans of pepsi, >>>>>>>>>>> > and >>>>>>>>>>> > him >>>>>>>>>>> > asking me if there's more watermelon pickles! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I sympathize with him. I hope he does well, no fun for sure. >>>>>>>>>>> When dh >>>>>>>>>>> had his wisdon teeth pulled, lots of milkshakes, and like your >>>>>>>>>>> Don, a >>>>>>>>>>> few good belts of whiskey instead of rum though, refused pain >>>>>>>>>>> pills. >>>>>>>>>>> As far as lifestyles go, I really could not be more happy when >>>>>>>>>>> others >>>>>>>>>>> are happy with their choices when it comes to loving someone. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheri >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>He's feeling a little better but I got him more Pepsi on the way >>>>>>>>>>home >>>>>>>>>>(he has plenty of rum). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe he should just stick with the rum. Pepsi's not keto at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Diet Pepsi never bothered me at all with low carb, but then I don't >>>>>>>>drink >>>>>>>>many sodas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Me neither, I drink bubbly water instead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> == >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same here  )>>>>>> >>>>>> I drink plain ice water all day long. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheri >>>>>> == >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been meaning to ask you ... you said you drink iced water with >>>>>> mint? >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you use fresh mint? How much to you use? Do you chop it? >>>>> >>>>>I have Rubbermaid Chug bottles. I just throw some mint leaves in there, >>>>>then >>>>>some ice, then more mint. I suppose I could bruise the leaves for more >>>>>flavor but I just give it a shake and that seems to be enough. Then I >>>>>fill >>>>>with water. >>>>> >>>>>I also drink tea, seltzer, G2, diet soda and various other kinds of >>>>>water. >>>> >>>>If soda = soda water = bubbly water, then what do they leave out to >>>>make it diet soda? >>> >>>Obviously they omit the sugar and replace it with an artificial >>>sweetener... zero calories = diet soda. >> >> I thought soda water was bubbly water, but if it's a soft drink, then >> yes. > > That would be soda water. Some here say soda pop. Some say soda. Some say > pop. In some areas it is purported that they say tonic to mean the same > thing but I lived in that area and never heard it said. And in some parts > of > the South I have heard that they say Coke to mean any kind of soda. > > == > > In Scotland, any 'pop' is called 'ginger' )> > No, not just ginger drinks )I hadn't heard that one before. |
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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > "Cheri" > wrote in message > news
> > wrote in message> 9.45... > > > On Sun 09 Jul 2017 09:11:16a, Ophelia told us... > > > > > > > "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message > > > > 9.44... > > > > > > > > On Sun 09 Jul 2017 06:09:16a, Ophelia told us... > > > > > > > > > "jmcquown" wrote in message > > > > > news
> > > > > > > > > > On 7/8/2017 10:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > > > > I'd love to get another dog, but it would not be fair to > > > > > > the dog to bring one into the house right now. My grandson > > > > > > though, took in two dogs that would have been abandoned but > > > > > > he cannot afford to take proper care with vet and food. > > > > > > So, I have two "foster dogs" that come to visit. They get > > > > > > plenty of love and attention. > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure they get plenty of love and attention, Ed. It's easy > > > > > enough to say "just adopt" but pets are expensive. > > > > > > > > > > In the case of my cat Persia, she kept getting bladder > > > > > infections. Turned out she had a (thankfully benign) tumor. I > > > > > paid for the surgery and the biopsy. After that she had to > > > > > eat prescription food. That's not cheap. Later she was > > > > > diagnosed as hyperthyroid. > >>>> Turned out she was allergic to the medication. So, radioactive > > > > > isotope therapy. More money, and a trip to a special clinic > > > > > near Charleston, where she had to be boarded and isolated for > > > > > two weeks. She was literally radioactive. LOL > > > > > > > > > > It's a wonderful thing to want to adopt a pet. But there's a > > > > > lot more to it than a few cans or bags of food. > > > > > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > > > == > > > > > > > > > > We always have Pet Insurance with ours. Our last dog was ill > > > > > when we got her and she got worse and worse. In the end our > > > > > vet directed us to the Vet's Hospital in Glasgow where they > > > > > tried to help her but she died. That would have cost us a > > > > > few thousand £s. > > > > > > > > I don't know what pet insurance is like in the UK, but the > > > > insurance plans I've investigate here are not worth much except > > > > for annual checkups, vaccinations, and other minor procedures. > > > > The premiums for 4 cats is also expensive. When Peanut was > > > > having serious digestive issues and eye problems, we spents > > > > thousands on him and the insurance we could have had would not > > > > havae covered the cost of what the vets did. > > > > > > > > > >>> Wayne Boatwright > > > > == > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I didn't make it clear, our Insurers paid the money to > > > > the Vet's Hospital! > > > > > > > > I was making the point that it would have cost US that much had > > > > we not had been insured. > > > > > > > > OK just checked, Our insurers paid the Vet's Hospital over > > > > £2,000.00 for Bonnie. > > > > > > > > We mainly have it in case they get serious problems like Bonnie > > > > did! > > > > > > > > We have an excess of £25 after which the Insurance pays the > > > > rest. > > > > > > > > That doesn't sound like your insurance is worth a lot  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You made it very clear. We had insurance on all 5 cats some years > > > ago. Initially we took all 5 for an annual exam and any > > > vacinatons they needed. For there was a copay of $50 per cat. > > > About a year later we took Millie (now deceased) to determine > > > what was causing her kidney problems. Xrays revealed that she > > > had kidney stones, and also that her kidneys were beginning to > > > fail. She had surgery to remove the kidney stones and total bill > > > was $1800, with no discount. She later began treatment for her > > > kidneys and each monthly visit visit was $125 plus the solution > > > that we had to inject once a day. As soon as our contract > > > expired we did not renew it. Pet insurance in the US is a > > > complete ripoff. > > > > We ran into the same thing with our last dog Sophie, the insurance > > was around $35.00 per month and didn't really cover anything that > > she needed, never bought it again after the first year. > > I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta for > awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay covers > the teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet visits (I > think 5) per year and fecal testing. I think that is up to 2-3 times > per year. The main reason I get it is for the teeth cleaning. Would > cost more without it. Julie, that is not insurance, that is called a pet care plan. Very different but good thing to have. -- |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 7/9/2017 4:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > > > > > > > I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta > > for awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay > > covers the teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet > > visits (I think 5) per year and fecal testing. I think that is up > > to 2-3 times per year. The main reason I get it is for the teeth > > cleaning. Would cost more without it. > > How much is a teeth cleaning that you save by spending $840 a year to > get it cheaper? > > I never spent that much in a yer for any of our dogs. I'd not buy > the insurance. Ed, what she is talking about is not insurance but a pet plan. Generally 25$ a month here (300$ a year) covers all shots, dental a year, any trips to have them checked if something seems wrong, educed prices for most things normal. A dental here is 700$. -- |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 7/9/2017 4:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> > >> >> I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta for >> awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay covers the >> teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet visits (I think 5) >> per year and fecal testing. I think that is up to 2-3 times per year. The >> main reason I get it is for the teeth cleaning. Would cost more without >> it. > > How much is a teeth cleaning that you save by spending $840 a year to get > it cheaper? I can't remember. When one Dr. was there, he would have a July special on teeth cleaning and I think that was $700 with the special. I never paid full price for it. But the insurance also includes vet visits shots and other testing. The year that Jazzy was attacked by the Raccoon, the insurance really paid off. It covered everything. My vet does have different plans. Some cover less, some cover more. The year that Jetta had no insurance, I think I paid around $300 for her shots and standard testing. > > I never spent that much in a yer for any of our dogs. I'd not buy the > insurance. |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message 9.45... > On Sun 09 Jul 2017 02:05:54p, Ed Pawlowski told us... > >> On 7/9/2017 4:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta >>> for awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay >>> covers the teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet >>> visits (I think 5) per year and fecal testing. I think that is up >>> to 2-3 times per year. The main reason I get it is for the teeth >>> cleaning. Would cost more without it. >> >> How much is a teeth cleaning that you save by spending $840 a year >> to get it cheaper? >> >> I never spent that much in a yer for any of our dogs. I'd not >> buy the insurance. >> > > I don't know about dogs, but cats have to be put under general > anesthesia to have their teeth cleaned. IIRC, the total cost for one > cat was around $700-800. We soon learned how to clean all of cats' > teeth ourselves. I know how to do it. They just won't cooperate. Jazzy has jaws of steel. Will not open her mouth at all. |
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On 2017-07-09 3:58 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:16:33 -0400, wrote: > >>> If soda = soda water = bubbly water, then what do they leave out to >>> make it diet soda? >> >> Obviously they omit the sugar and replace it with an artificial >> sweetener... zero calories = diet soda. > > I thought soda water was bubbly water, but if it's a soft drink, then > yes. In parts of the US, soda pop is simply called soda, while parts to the west are more likely to call it pop. In Ontario and western Canada it is called pop. If I asked my wife for a soda she would bring me soda water. If I asked a waiter for soda I would get soda water. If I were on a north eastern state and asked for soda they would probably ask me what kind. |
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On 2017-07-09 4:05 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >> If breeders didn't exist, there would be no shelter animals available. > > Why not? Plenty of people let their pets get pregnant but don't want > the offspring. > They don't always let them. Bitches in heat are promiscuous. When I was a teen I spent a lot of time on a friend's farm. They had a runted Great Dane who was a slut whenever she was in heat. They tried to keep her in the basement when she was in heat but if anyone opened a door she would come flying upstairs and push past them to get outside and she would take off looking for a poppy daddy. |
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On 2017-07-09 5:33 PM, notbob wrote:
> > My brother hadda find a vet --after 10pm, on a Sun night-- to care for > his dog. If someone got me outta bed to work on their dog, I'd have > charged 'em $1,500USD, too. > I had to take my previous dog to the emergency vet clinic when his hip went out after 10 pm on a Sunday night. $175 to get in the door. The vet said they would need to hospitalize him for 2-3 days to stabilize him before they could really get a good look at it. During the examination the vet found a large tender mass on his side, likely cancer. I did a quick calculation. Belgium Shepherds had a life expectancy of 12-14 years and he was 14-1/2 and he was in extreme pain. He was sedated and given a shot and passed very quickly and peacefully. |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sun 09 Jul 2017 02:05:54p, Ed Pawlowski told us... > > > On 7/9/2017 4:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta > >> for awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay > >> covers the teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet > >> visits (I think 5) per year and fecal testing. I think that is up > >> to 2-3 times per year. The main reason I get it is for the teeth > >> cleaning. Would cost more without it. > > > > How much is a teeth cleaning that you save by spending $840 a year > > to get it cheaper? > > > > I never spent that much in a yer for any of our dogs. I'd not > > buy the insurance. > > > > I don't know about dogs, but cats have to be put under general > anesthesia to have their teeth cleaned. IIRC, the total cost for one > cat was around $700-800. We soon learned how to clean all of cats' > teeth ourselves. Same cost for dogs. Failure to have a regular dental can shorten a pet's life by 5 years or moe. -- |
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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > "cshenk" > wrote in message > ... > > Wayne Boatwright wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > > > On Sun 09 Jul 2017 08:19:41a, notbob told us... > > > > >>> On 2017-07-09, jmcquown > wrote: > > > > > >>>> It's a wonderful thing to want to adopt a pet. But there's a lot > >>>> more to it than a few cans or bags of food. > > > > > >>> Testify! > > > > > >>> As I took care of my mom's dog (on her dime) and the dog became > >>> older, I ended up paying $2.50+ per can of prescription dog food. > >>> The trips to the vet --for one reason or another-- became more and > >>> more espensive. Her dog was finally put down at the ripe old age > >>> of 17 yrs old. > > > > > >>> I wanted to get my own dog, but realized I could not care for it > >>> like I would have liked. This after my brother (still in CA) told > >>> me about his dog. We were talking on the phone when he sed he'd > >>> hafta go, as his dog was not feeling well. I talked to him the > >>> following night and learned he now owed the vet $1,500USD. > >>> (shudder) > > > > > >>> nb > > > > > > > > > > That's not unusual for the US. > > > > Actually, yes it is. The pet insurance market here is almost > > useless. > > Not at my vet. Of course the insurance only applies to them. I > couldn't take them elsewhere and use it. Sorry Julie but everything you have described is a pet plan. You are only covered for what is in the pet plan. You are basically pre-paying for annual needs with a small amount of extras. -- |
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On 2017-07-09, Janet > wrote:
> Breeders produce pedigree dogs. Most dogs in shelters are cross breeds > and mongrels which did not come from breeders. Apparently, you have never seen a documentary on "puppy mills". They've been around --along with their corrupt methods and sick dogs-- as far back as the 60s. Remember the Pet Doctor? nb |
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On 7/9/2017 5:18 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 09 Jul 2017 02:05:54p, Ed Pawlowski told us... > >> On 7/9/2017 4:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta >>> for awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay >>> covers the teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet >>> visits (I think 5) per year and fecal testing. I think that is up >>> to 2-3 times per year. The main reason I get it is for the teeth >>> cleaning. Would cost more without it. >> >> How much is a teeth cleaning that you save by spending $840 a year >> to get it cheaper? >> >> I never spent that much in a yer for any of our dogs. I'd not >> buy the insurance. >> > > I don't know about dogs, but cats have to be put under general > anesthesia to have their teeth cleaned. IIRC, the total cost for one > cat was around $700-800. We soon learned how to clean all of cats' > teeth ourselves. > How important is it? Animals in the wild don't have theirs cleaned very often. I've never seen a deer show up at the vet. |
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Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:45:45 -0400, wrote: > > > And I'm not the only one in this farming community who cares for > > feral cats... cats don't eat crops but they keep the rodent > > population way down... if not for feral barn cats it would cost > > twice as much to keep a horse fed... if not for feral cats dairy > > would cost a whole lot more. I made a small opening in my > > vegetable garden fence so the ferals can get in to patrol, no more > > rodents eating my crops. The feral cats more than earn their keep. > > With alls the food you give them, they don't need to catch no stinking > rodents. > > Don't kid yourself. You spend more on those damned cats than they're > worth. > > -sw Steve, what is the worth of a life? Sheldon does well. -- |
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On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:59:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: >And again... You are assuming that all stores have Customer Service. They >don't. Also assuming that Customer Service will have an answer. They will, >but it's generally the wrong one. Add in the fact that you may have to stand >there for 10-15 minutes while they call someone to help you. Holy crap! Around here (southern Ontario), if I can't find something in any of the 3 grocery stores in town, I just walk up to the nearest employee - usually someone stocking shelves - and ask. They will usually lead me directly to the item I am looking for. If they don't know where it is, they'll flag down someone else. I've never waited for help finding something, and if the store doesn't carry the item, they'll tell you right away, and perhaps even suggest an alternate store that may have what you need. Doris |
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"cshenk" > wrote in message ... > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message >> news
>> > wrote in message>> 9.45... >> > > On Sun 09 Jul 2017 09:11:16a, Ophelia told us... >> > > >> > > > "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message >> > > > 9.44... >> > > > >> > > > On Sun 09 Jul 2017 06:09:16a, Ophelia told us... >> > > > >> > > > > "jmcquown" wrote in message >> > > > > news
>> > > > >>> > > > > On 7/8/2017 10:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > > > > > I'd love to get another dog, but it would not be fair to >> > > > > > the dog to bring one into the house right now. My grandson >> > > > > > though, took in two dogs that would have been abandoned but >> > > > > > he cannot afford to take proper care with vet and food. >> > > > > > So, I have two "foster dogs" that come to visit. They get >> > > > > > plenty of love and attention. >> > > > > >> > > > > I'm sure they get plenty of love and attention, Ed. It's easy >> > > > > enough to say "just adopt" but pets are expensive. >> > > > > >> > > > > In the case of my cat Persia, she kept getting bladder >> > > > > infections. Turned out she had a (thankfully benign) tumor. I >> > > > > paid for the surgery and the biopsy. After that she had to >> > > > > eat prescription food. That's not cheap. Later she was >> > > > > diagnosed as hyperthyroid. >> >>>> Turned out she was allergic to the medication. So, radioactive >> > > > > isotope therapy. More money, and a trip to a special clinic >> > > > > near Charleston, where she had to be boarded and isolated for >> > > > > two weeks. She was literally radioactive. LOL >> > > > > >> > > > > It's a wonderful thing to want to adopt a pet. But there's a >> > > > > lot more to it than a few cans or bags of food. >> > > > > >> > > > > Jill >> > > > > >> > > > > == >> > > > > >> > > > > We always have Pet Insurance with ours. Our last dog was ill >> > > > > when we got her and she got worse and worse. In the end our >> > > > > vet directed us to the Vet's Hospital in Glasgow where they >> > > > > tried to help her but she died. That would have cost us a >> > > > > few thousand £s. >> > > > >> > > > I don't know what pet insurance is like in the UK, but the >> > > > insurance plans I've investigate here are not worth much except >> > > > for annual checkups, vaccinations, and other minor procedures. >> > > > The premiums for 4 cats is also expensive. When Peanut was >> > > > having serious digestive issues and eye problems, we spents >> > > > thousands on him and the insurance we could have had would not >> > > > havae covered the cost of what the vets did. >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> Wayne Boatwright >> > > > == >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Perhaps I didn't make it clear, our Insurers paid the money to >> > > > the Vet's Hospital! >> > > > >> > > > I was making the point that it would have cost US that much had >> > > > we not had been insured. >> > > > >> > > > OK just checked, Our insurers paid the Vet's Hospital over >> > > > £2,000.00 for Bonnie. >> > > > >> > > > We mainly have it in case they get serious problems like Bonnie >> > > > did! >> > > > >> > > > We have an excess of £25 after which the Insurance pays the >> > > > rest. >> > > > >> > > > That doesn't sound like your insurance is worth a lot >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > You made it very clear. We had insurance on all 5 cats some years >> > > ago. Initially we took all 5 for an annual exam and any >> > > vacinatons they needed. For there was a copay of $50 per cat. >> > > About a year later we took Millie (now deceased) to determine >> > > what was causing her kidney problems. Xrays revealed that she >> > > had kidney stones, and also that her kidneys were beginning to >> > > fail. She had surgery to remove the kidney stones and total bill >> > > was $1800, with no discount. She later began treatment for her >> > > kidneys and each monthly visit visit was $125 plus the solution >> > > that we had to inject once a day. As soon as our contract >> > > expired we did not renew it. Pet insurance in the US is a >> > > complete ripoff. >> > >> > We ran into the same thing with our last dog Sophie, the insurance >> > was around $35.00 per month and didn't really cover anything that >> > she needed, never bought it again after the first year. >> >> I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta for >> awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay covers >> the teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet visits (I >> think 5) per year and fecal testing. I think that is up to 2-3 times >> per year. The main reason I get it is for the teeth cleaning. Would >> cost more without it. > > Julie, that is not insurance, that is called a pet care plan. Very > different but good thing to have. They refer to it as insurance. |
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"cshenk" > wrote in message news  > Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On 7/9/2017 4:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta >> > for awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay >> > covers the teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet >> > visits (I think 5) per year and fecal testing. I think that is up >> > to 2-3 times per year. The main reason I get it is for the teeth >> > cleaning. Would cost more without it. >> >> How much is a teeth cleaning that you save by spending $840 a year to >> get it cheaper? >> >> I never spent that much in a yer for any of our dogs. I'd not buy >> the insurance. > > Ed, what she is talking about is not insurance but a pet plan. > Generally 25$ a month here (300$ a year) covers all shots, dental a > year, any trips to have them checked if something seems wrong, educed > prices for most things normal. A dental here is 700$. > > -- They are called Wellness Plans or Paw Plans. Here is the info. http://www.northcreek.com/veterinari...wellness-plans |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 7/9/2017 5:18 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> On Sun 09 Jul 2017 02:05:54p, Ed Pawlowski told us... >> >>> On 7/9/2017 4:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta >>>> for awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay >>>> covers the teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet >>>> visits (I think 5) per year and fecal testing. I think that is up >>>> to 2-3 times per year. The main reason I get it is for the teeth >>>> cleaning. Would cost more without it. >>> >>> How much is a teeth cleaning that you save by spending $840 a year >>> to get it cheaper? >>> >>> I never spent that much in a yer for any of our dogs. I'd not >>> buy the insurance. >>> >> >> I don't know about dogs, but cats have to be put under general >> anesthesia to have their teeth cleaned. IIRC, the total cost for one >> cat was around $700-800. We soon learned how to clean all of cats' >> teeth ourselves. >> > > How important is it? Animals in the wild don't have theirs cleaned very > often. I've never seen a deer show up at the vet. Those animals may well be in pain. We don't know. People didn't used to clean their teeth either. And how long did they live? |
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"cshenk" > wrote in message ... > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message >> ... >> > Wayne Boatwright wrote in rec.food.cooking: >> > >> > > On Sun 09 Jul 2017 08:19:41a, notbob told us... >> > > >> >>> On 2017-07-09, jmcquown > wrote: >> > > > >> >>>> It's a wonderful thing to want to adopt a pet. But there's a lot >> >>>> more to it than a few cans or bags of food. >> > > > >> >>> Testify! >> > > > >> >>> As I took care of my mom's dog (on her dime) and the dog became >> >>> older, I ended up paying $2.50+ per can of prescription dog food. >> >>> The trips to the vet --for one reason or another-- became more and >> >>> more espensive. Her dog was finally put down at the ripe old age >> >>> of 17 yrs old. >> > > > >> >>> I wanted to get my own dog, but realized I could not care for it >> >>> like I would have liked. This after my brother (still in CA) told >> >>> me about his dog. We were talking on the phone when he sed he'd >> >>> hafta go, as his dog was not feeling well. I talked to him the >> >>> following night and learned he now owed the vet $1,500USD. >> >>> (shudder) >> > > > >> >>> nb >> > > > >> > > >> > > That's not unusual for the US. >> > >> > Actually, yes it is. The pet insurance market here is almost >> > useless. >> >> Not at my vet. Of course the insurance only applies to them. I >> couldn't take them elsewhere and use it. > > Sorry Julie but everything you have described is a pet plan. You are > only covered for what is in the pet plan. You are basically pre-paying > for annual needs with a small amount of extras. When it was first mentioned to me, it was referred to as insurance. |
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"Doris Night" > wrote in message ... > On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:59:58 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > > >>And again... You are assuming that all stores have Customer Service. They >>don't. Also assuming that Customer Service will have an answer. They will, >>but it's generally the wrong one. Add in the fact that you may have to >>stand >>there for 10-15 minutes while they call someone to help you. > > Holy crap! > > Around here (southern Ontario), if I can't find something in any of > the 3 grocery stores in town, I just walk up to the nearest employee - > usually someone stocking shelves - and ask. They will usually lead me > directly to the item I am looking for. If they don't know where it is, > they'll flag down someone else. I don't usually shop in the middle of the night and only a few stores are open then. That's when our stores do their shelf stocking. Once in a while, you'll see someone during the day. Like I saw with the bags of ice. I have quit asking people. They never know where stuff is. And most of the stores here now operate on a bare bones crew. > > I've never waited for help finding something, and if the store doesn't > carry the item, they'll tell you right away, and perhaps even suggest > an alternate store that may have what you need. That might be the case where you are. Not here. I directed a customer in Albertsons to Central Market for Acini De Pepe. Clerk didn't even know what it was. |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> I don't know about dogs, but cats have to be put under general > anesthesia to have their teeth cleaned. IIRC, the total cost for one > cat was around $700-800. We soon learned how to clean all of cats' > teeth ourselves. I believe dogs do too, luckily dh brushes the dogs teeth very well everyday and she has great teeth. Cheri |
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"Cheri" > wrote in message news > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > >> I don't know about dogs, but cats have to be put under general >> anesthesia to have their teeth cleaned. IIRC, the total cost for one >> cat was around $700-800. We soon learned how to clean all of cats' >> teeth ourselves. > > I believe dogs do too, luckily dh brushes the dogs teeth very well > everyday and she has great teeth. I think dogs are much easier. Mine never put up a fight for bathing or teeth cleaning. |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44... On Sun 09 Jul 2017 02:02:51p, Ophelia told us... > "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
>> > "Bruce" > wrote in message > ... >> On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:16:33 -0400, wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 15:24:19 +1000, Bruce > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:50:26 -0700, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... >>>>>> "Cheri" wrote in message >>>>>> news
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> "Bruce" wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 23:00:12 -0700, "Cheri" >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>news:nfl0mc1hoe4muglq3odggff88r4n93f69s@4a x.com... >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Jul 2017 21:13:40 -0500, "cshenk" >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > I bet I come home to 1/2 bottle of rum, a few cans of >>>>>>>>>>> > pepsi, and him asking me if there's more watermelon >>>>>>>>>>> > pickles! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I sympathize with him. I hope he does well, no fun for >>>>>>>>>>> sure. When dh had his wisdon teeth pulled, lots of >>>>>>>>>>> milkshakes, and like your Don, a >>>>>>>>>>> few good belts of whiskey instead of rum though, refused >>>>>>>>>>> pain pills. As far as lifestyles go, I really could not >>>>>>>>>>> be more happy when others are happy with their choices >>>>>>>>>>> when it comes to loving someone. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheri >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>He's feeling a little better but I got him more Pepsi on >>>>>>>>>>the way home (he has plenty of rum). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe he should just stick with the rum. Pepsi's not keto >>>>>>>>> at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Diet Pepsi never bothered me at all with low carb, but then >>>>>>>>I don't drink many sodas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Me neither, I drink bubbly water instead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> == >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same here )>>>>>> >>>>>> I drink plain ice water all day long. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheri >>>>>> == >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been meaning to ask you ... you said you drink iced >>>>>> water with mint? >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you use fresh mint? How much to you use? Do you chop it? >>>>> >>>>>I have Rubbermaid Chug bottles. I just throw some mint leaves >>>>>in there, then some ice, then more mint. I suppose I could >>>>>bruise the leaves for more flavor but I just give it a shake >>>>>and that seems to be enough. Then I fill with water. >>>>> >>>>>I also drink tea, seltzer, G2, diet soda and various other >>>>>kinds of water. >>>> >>>>If soda = soda water = bubbly water, then what do they leave out >>>>to make it diet soda? >>> >>>Obviously they omit the sugar and replace it with an artificial >>>sweetener... zero calories = diet soda. >> >> I thought soda water was bubbly water, but if it's a soft drink, >> then yes. > > That would be soda water. Some here say soda pop. Some say soda. > Some say pop. In some areas it is purported that they say tonic to > mean the same thing but I lived in that area and never heard it > said. And in some parts of the South I have heard that they say > Coke to mean any kind of soda. > > == > > In Scotland, any 'pop' is called 'ginger' )> > No, not just ginger drinks )> So what do you ask for if you want a different flavor? I don't think I ever ordered a "pop" any time while in the UK. Wayne Boatwright == Me? I don't use that ) That is what the Glaswegians useI have heard 'A bottle of orange ginger, please' <g> -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-07-09 3:58 PM, Bruce wrote: > > On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:16:33 -0400, wrote: > > > > >>> If soda = soda water = bubbly water, then what do they leave out to > >>> make it diet soda? > >> > >> Obviously they omit the sugar and replace it with an artificial > >> sweetener... zero calories = diet soda. > > > > I thought soda water was bubbly water, but if it's a soft drink, then > > yes. > > In parts of the US, soda pop is simply called soda, while parts to the > west are more likely to call it pop. In Ontario and western Canada it is > called pop. If I asked my wife for a soda she would bring me soda > water. If I asked a waiter for soda I would get soda water. If I were > on a north eastern state and asked for soda they would probably ask me > what kind. Although it's generally called "pop" here, waitstaff generally know that "soda" means "sweetened soft drink". If I wanted bubbly water, I'd ask for "club soda", although that's generally available only at places that have a bar. Southeast Michigan, all my life. "What kind of soda do you have?" and "What kind of pop do you have?" will elicit the same response. Or, rather, one of two type of response: either a recitation of the flavors that they have, or they'll say "We have Coke products" or "We have Pepsi products", because so many Coke drinkers won't touch Pepsi and vice versa. When I drank soda, I was a Coke drinker. If they had only Pepsi, I'd have something else. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 7/10/2017 6:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> When I drank soda, I was a Coke drinker. If they had only Pepsi, > I'd have something else. D0 you remember back in the early 80's I think, they had the commercials for Pepsi... "Take the Pepsi challenge." They would pick random people and offer them unmarked cups of Pepsi and Coke. Everyone chose Pepsi. At the time,I did buy Pepsi all the time. One day I went to my grocery store and there they were in person doing the "Pepsi Challenge." They asked me if I was interested in doing this and I said, "SURE!" Since I always bought Pepsi, I was sure I would be another satisfied customer. {last famous thoughts) So I took a sip of each unmarked cup and one was very superior to the other one. I just knew it was the Pepsi. Wrong....I picked the Coke and even commented on how much better it tasted. She quickly dismissed me and from that day on, I started buying Coke. LOL! |
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On 2017-07-10 6:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote: > "What kind of soda do you have?" and "What kind of pop do you have?" > will elicit the same response. Or, rather, one of two type of response: > either a recitation of the flavors that they have, or they'll say > "We have Coke products" or "We have Pepsi products", because so > many Coke drinkers won't touch Pepsi and vice versa. > > When I drank soda, I was a Coke drinker. If they had only Pepsi, > I'd have something else. That's something I have never understood. I never did drink much of either. A neighbour was an executive with Canada Dry and kept us well supplied with their products. I have the occasional ginger peer or soda water. I think I had a Coke last month but if given the choice of Coke or Pepsi I would probably have the Pepsi. |
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On 7/9/2017 4:05 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:00:01 -0400, Gary > wrote: > >> On 7/9/2017 5:40 AM, Bruce wrote: >>> Yes, getting kittens or puppies from a shelter is still better than >>> going to a breeder, if you ask me. Breeders shouldn't exist while >>> there are still lots of shelter animals looking for a home. >> >> If breeders didn't exist, there would be no shelter animals available. > > Why not? Plenty of people let their pets get pregnant but don't want > the offspring. > Actually Bruce I was thinking of an alternative definition of "breeder." A female animal in heat is often referred to as a breeder. I wasn't even thinking of humans that breed animals. oh well. |
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On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 7:45:46 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-07-10 6:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote: > > > "What kind of soda do you have?" and "What kind of pop do you have?" > > will elicit the same response. Or, rather, one of two type of response: > > either a recitation of the flavors that they have, or they'll say > > "We have Coke products" or "We have Pepsi products", because so > > many Coke drinkers won't touch Pepsi and vice versa. > > > > When I drank soda, I was a Coke drinker. If they had only Pepsi, > > I'd have something else. > > That's something I have never understood. I never did drink much of > either. A neighbour was an executive with Canada Dry and kept us well > supplied with their products. I have the occasional ginger peer or soda > water. I think I had a Coke last month but if given the choice of Coke > or Pepsi I would probably have the Pepsi. Pepsi was always perceptibly sweeter, perhaps lacking the balancing acidity of Coke. As far as I can recall. I stopped drinking soda pop about 5 years ago, and now all colas taste like cough syrup. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:57:17 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, says... >> >> On 7/9/2017 8:33 AM, Bruce wrote: >> > jmcquown wrote: >> >> >> He also provides food and water for them. He even ran >> >> electricity to the barn where they sleep so they can have heat in the >> >> winter. They have comfy beds and fresh water. He doesn't have a >> >> problem with rats or mice, that's for sure. >> > >> > I think that if he gets them neutered, he's doing a great job looking >> > after them and reducing the problem at the same time. But I really >> > have my doubts about catching feral cats. >> >> Sheldon has made the classic mistake of totally domesticating wildlife. >> When he dies eventually, so will all the ferals that are used to his care. > > Highly unlikely; his ferals live and hunt outside all year round. >They may enjoy supplementary feeding but if it wasn't there, they're >very able to fend for themselves. > > Janet UK My ferals appreciate the supplemental feedings. To show their gratitude they are leaving presents just one footstep outside the back door. Janet US |
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says... > > On Sun 09 Jul 2017 04:52:49p, Janet told us... > > > In article >, says... > >> > >> On 7/9/2017 5:40 AM, Bruce wrote: > >> > Yes, getting kittens or puppies from a shelter is still better > >> > than going to a breeder, if you ask me. Breeders shouldn't > >> > exist while there are still lots of shelter animals looking for > >> > a home. > >> > >> If breeders didn't exist, there would be no shelter animals > >> available. > > > > Don't be silly > > > > Breeders produce pedigree dogs. Most dogs in shelters are cross > > breeds > > and mongrels which did not come from breeders. > > > > Janet UK > > > > Most cross breeds and mongrels are a result of the owners not having > the common sense to have their animals spayed or neutered. Exactly. That's why UK animal shelters neuter all their cats and dogs (M,F, pedigree and mutts) before they are rehomed. Janet UK |
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