In article >, says...
>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> news
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On 7/9/2017 4:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I pay almost $70 a month for each cat. I didn't have it for Jetta
> >> > for awhile but now she needs a teeth cleaning. The amount I pay
> >> > covers the teeth cleaning, normal shots, a certain number of vet
> >> > visits (I think 5) per year and fecal testing. I think that is up
> >> > to 2-3 times per year. The main reason I get it is for the teeth
> >> > cleaning. Would cost more without it.
> >>
> >> How much is a teeth cleaning that you save by spending $840 a year to
> >> get it cheaper?
> >>
> >> I never spent that much in a yer for any of our dogs. I'd not buy
> >> the insurance.
> >
> > Ed, what she is talking about is not insurance but a pet plan.
> > Generally 25$ a month here (300$ a year) covers all shots, dental a
> > year, any trips to have them checked if something seems wrong, educed
> > prices for most things normal. A dental here is 700$.
> >
> > --
>
> They are called Wellness Plans or Paw Plans. Here is the info.
>
> http://www.northcreek.com/veterinari...wellness-plans

They tell you , "Our Pet Annual Wellness Plans (PAW Plans) provide
your pet with a comprehensive level of preventive care".

That's not pet insurance.

Pet insurance covers the cost of elective or emergency surgery,long term
medication etc. It doesn't cover the cost of preventive care like annual
vaccinations and worming.



Janet UK.

In article >, says...
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>
> > I don't know about dogs, but cats have to be put under general
> > anesthesia to have their teeth cleaned. IIRC, the total cost for one
> > cat was around $700-800. We soon learned how to clean all of cats'
> > teeth ourselves.
>
> I believe dogs do too, luckily dh brushes the dogs teeth very well everyday
> and she has great teeth.

I give the dog a beef bone and he uses it to clean his own teeth.

Janet UK

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.44...
> On Mon 10 Jul 2017 08:47:57a, Janet told us...
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Sun 09 Jul 2017 04:52:49p, Janet told us...
>>>
>>> > In article >,
>>> > says...
>>> >>
>>> >> On 7/9/2017 5:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> >> > Yes, getting kittens or puppies from a shelter is still
>>> >> > better than going to a breeder, if you ask me. Breeders
>>> >> > shouldn't exist while there are still lots of shelter
>>> >> > animals looking for a home.
>>> >>
>>> >> If breeders didn't exist, there would be no shelter animals
>>> >> available.
>>> >
>>> > Don't be silly
>>> >
>>> > Breeders produce pedigree dogs. Most dogs in shelters are
>>> > cross breeds
>>> > and mongrels which did not come from breeders.
>>> >
>>> > Janet UK
>>> >
>>>
>>> Most cross breeds and mongrels are a result of the owners not
>>> having the common sense to have their animals spayed or neutered.
>>
>> Exactly. That's why UK animal shelters neuter all their cats
>> and dogs
>> (M,F, pedigree and mutts) before they are rehomed.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>>
>>
>
> Most shelters in the US do that as well.

Every one of them I know does. They include the cost as part of the adoption
fee.

Cheri

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>
>> > I don't know about dogs, but cats have to be put under general
>> > anesthesia to have their teeth cleaned. IIRC, the total cost for one
>> > cat was around $700-800. We soon learned how to clean all of cats'
>> > teeth ourselves.
>>
>> I believe dogs do too, luckily dh brushes the dogs teeth very well
>> everyday
>> and she has great teeth.
>
> I give the dog a beef bone and he uses it to clean his own teeth.
>
> Janet UK

Do you share it?

Cheri

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>
> How important is it? Animals in the wild don't have theirs cleaned very
> often. I've never seen a deer show up at the vet.

In the wild deer that are ill are called prey.
Farmed deer are treated by Vets...
restaurants that serve venison in NYS
must be of farmed deer.

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.44...
> On Mon 10 Jul 2017 08:47:57a, Janet told us...
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Sun 09 Jul 2017 04:52:49p, Janet told us...
>>>
>>> > In article >,
>>> > says...
>>> >>
>>> >> On 7/9/2017 5:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> >> > Yes, getting kittens or puppies from a shelter is still
>>> >> > better than going to a breeder, if you ask me. Breeders
>>> >> > shouldn't exist while there are still lots of shelter
>>> >> > animals looking for a home.
>>> >>
>>> >> If breeders didn't exist, there would be no shelter animals
>>> >> available.
>>> >
>>> > Don't be silly
>>> >
>>> > Breeders produce pedigree dogs. Most dogs in shelters are
>>> > cross breeds
>>> > and mongrels which did not come from breeders.
>>> >
>>> > Janet UK
>>> >
>>>
>>> Most cross breeds and mongrels are a result of the owners not
>>> having the common sense to have their animals spayed or neutered.
>>
>> Exactly. That's why UK animal shelters neuter all their cats
>> and dogs
>> (M,F, pedigree and mutts) before they are rehomed.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>>
>>
>
> Most shelters in the US do that as well.

Every one of them I know does. They include the cost as part of the adoption
fee.

Che

==

Yes, and the one I use inserts a tracking chip before all animals are
rehomed.



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 7/9/2017 8:57 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> WTF does that have to do with anything I said?!?!?
>
> -sw

Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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>
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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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On 2017-07-10 9:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 7:45:46 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:

>>> When I drank soda, I was a Coke drinker. If they had only Pepsi,
>>> I'd have something else.
>>
>> That's something I have never understood. I never did drink much of
>> either. A neighbour was an executive with Canada Dry and kept us well
>> supplied with their products. I have the occasional ginger peer or soda
>> water. I think I had a Coke last month but if given the choice of Coke
>> or Pepsi I would probably have the Pepsi.
>
> Pepsi was always perceptibly sweeter, perhaps lacking
> the balancing acidity of Coke. As far as I can recall.
> I stopped drinking soda pop about 5 years ago, and now
> all colas taste like cough syrup.

I always thought that Pepsi had a slightly crisper taste to it.
I never was a big pop drinker. My parents rarely had it in the house,
but we got enough of it at my friend's house because his father was an
exec with Canada Dry and they had weekly deliveries of the stuff, and
that was when they had about a dozen flavours.

There were times in my youth when I would have it regularly, especially
in the summer when I was working at hot jobs. Somewhere along the line I
realized it wasn't really thirst quenching. After I had heart surgery
my wife started getting all kinds of diet pops and was pushing me to
drink them. Our asked her why, and she said I should not have the
regular sugared stuff. He pointed out that I rarely drink pop.

On 2017-07-10 8:20 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> lid says...
>> I think that if he gets them neutered, he's doing a great job looking
>> after them and reducing the problem at the same time. But I really
>> have my doubts about catching feral cats.
>>
>
> Another example of your ignorance.
>
> True feral cats can never become domestic pets; but colonies left to
> breed uncontrollably become a generational reservoir of disease,
> infection and parasites that causes real suffering.
>
> Cat rescue charities trap and neuter feral cats then find outdoor homes
> (often on farms which appreciate rodent control) with owners willing to
> supplement feeding when required and medicate (via food).
>
Not in N.America!!! Stupid old biddies let them loose in nature reserves!!!

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 1:38:44 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 6:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > When I drank soda, I was a Coke drinker. If they had only Pepsi,
> > I'd have something else.
>
>
>
> D0 you remember back in the early 80's I think, they had the commercials
> for Pepsi... "Take the Pepsi challenge."
>
> They would pick random people and offer them unmarked cups of Pepsi and
> Coke. Everyone chose Pepsi.
>
> At the time,I did buy Pepsi all the time. One day I went to my grocery
> store and there they were in person doing the "Pepsi Challenge."
>
> They asked me if I was interested in doing this and I said, "SURE!"
> Since I always bought Pepsi, I was sure I would be another satisfied
> customer. {last famous thoughts)
>
> So I took a sip of each unmarked cup and one was very superior to the
> other one. I just knew it was the Pepsi.
>
> Wrong....I picked the Coke and even commented on how much better it
> tasted. She quickly dismissed me and from that day on, I started buying
> Coke. LOL!

You only thought you were taking the Pepsi Challenge. You were actually taking the Secret Coke Con.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6Gcw5nSMc

On 2017-07-10 2:25 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 1:38:44 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> On 7/10/2017 6:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> When I drank soda, I was a Coke drinker. If they had only Pepsi,
>>> I'd have something else.
>>
>>
>>
>> D0 you remember back in the early 80's I think, they had the commercials
>> for Pepsi... "Take the Pepsi challenge."
>>
>> They would pick random people and offer them unmarked cups of Pepsi and
>> Coke. Everyone chose Pepsi.
>>
>> At the time,I did buy Pepsi all the time. One day I went to my grocery
>> store and there they were in person doing the "Pepsi Challenge."
>>
>> They asked me if I was interested in doing this and I said, "SURE!"
>> Since I always bought Pepsi, I was sure I would be another satisfied
>> customer. {last famous thoughts)
>>
>> So I took a sip of each unmarked cup and one was very superior to the
>> other one. I just knew it was the Pepsi.
>>
>> Wrong....I picked the Coke and even commented on how much better it
>> tasted. She quickly dismissed me and from that day on, I started buying
>> Coke. LOL!
>
> You only thought you were taking the Pepsi Challenge. You were actually taking the Secret Coke Con.


Cola drinkers seem to have a problem with taste. It was about 30 years
ago when Coke introduced a new formula, one which their taste tests led
then to believe consumers liked best. The thought they had needed
something to regain the market share that had been lost to Pepsi and to
non cola drinks. Once the new produce was rolled out consumers
rebelled. They wanted their old Coke back, so Coke then came in New
Coke and the Coke Classic. Coke Classic sales soared.

The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it helped
Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke suddenly
started buying Coke.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 9.44...
>> On Mon 10 Jul 2017 08:47:57a, Janet told us...
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On Sun 09 Jul 2017 04:52:49p, Janet told us...
>>>>
>>>> > In article >,
>>>> > says...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 7/9/2017 5:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> >> > Yes, getting kittens or puppies from a shelter is still
>>>> >> > better than going to a breeder, if you ask me. Breeders
>>>> >> > shouldn't exist while there are still lots of shelter
>>>> >> > animals looking for a home.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If breeders didn't exist, there would be no shelter animals
>>>> >> available.
>>>> >
>>>> > Don't be silly
>>>> >
>>>> > Breeders produce pedigree dogs. Most dogs in shelters are
>>>> > cross breeds
>>>> > and mongrels which did not come from breeders.
>>>> >
>>>> > Janet UK
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Most cross breeds and mongrels are a result of the owners not
>>>> having the common sense to have their animals spayed or neutered.
>>>
>>> Exactly. That's why UK animal shelters neuter all their cats
>>> and dogs
>>> (M,F, pedigree and mutts) before they are rehomed.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Most shelters in the US do that as well.
>
> Every one of them I know does. They include the cost as part of the
> adoption
> fee.
>
> Che
>
> ==
>
> Yes, and the one I use inserts a tracking chip before all animals are
> rehomed.

Same here, when we adopted her she had a chip but the original owners
declined to retreive her from the pound the second time around, so we had to
mail a fee and change the name by showing proof of adoption. I don't
understand how owners could just let their dog go like that, she was just a
couple of days from being put down when Animal Friends Connection rescued
her. On the other hand, I'm glad they didn't care enough about her to get
her back because I have a feeling their care was terrible.

Cheri

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-07-10 2:25 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 1:38:44 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> >> On 7/10/2017 6:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> When I drank soda, I was a Coke drinker. If they had only Pepsi,
> >>> I'd have something else.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> D0 you remember back in the early 80's I think, they had the commercials
> >> for Pepsi... "Take the Pepsi challenge."
> >>
> >> They would pick random people and offer them unmarked cups of Pepsi and
> >> Coke. Everyone chose Pepsi.
> >>
> >> At the time,I did buy Pepsi all the time. One day I went to my grocery
> >> store and there they were in person doing the "Pepsi Challenge."
> >>
> >> They asked me if I was interested in doing this and I said, "SURE!"
> >> Since I always bought Pepsi, I was sure I would be another satisfied
> >> customer. {last famous thoughts)
> >>
> >> So I took a sip of each unmarked cup and one was very superior to the
> >> other one. I just knew it was the Pepsi.
> >>
> >> Wrong....I picked the Coke and even commented on how much better it
> >> tasted. She quickly dismissed me and from that day on, I started buying
> >> Coke. LOL!
> >
> > You only thought you were taking the Pepsi Challenge. You were actually taking the Secret Coke Con.
>
>
> Cola drinkers seem to have a problem with taste. It was about 30 years
> ago when Coke introduced a new formula, one which their taste tests led
> then to believe consumers liked best. The thought they had needed
> something to regain the market share that had been lost to Pepsi and to
> non cola drinks. Once the new produce was rolled out consumers
> rebelled. They wanted their old Coke back, so Coke then came in New
> Coke and the Coke Classic. Coke Classic sales soared.
>
> The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it helped
> Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke suddenly
> started buying Coke.

It was brilliant and the most cynical advertising campaign ever - or was it?

I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not recommended. That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying my computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...VCPqj3T38GBtbz

"dsi1" > wrote in message news:f9628335-29ff-46a9-825f-

> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not recommended.
> That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying my
> computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.

I really liked the taste of Pepsi Max, but it didn't agree with me the few
times I had it. I've never heard of Pepsi Fire.

Cheri

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:14:32 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f9628335-29ff-46a9-825f-
>
> > I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not recommended.
> > That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying my
> > computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
>
> I really liked the taste of Pepsi Max, but it didn't agree with me the few
> times I had it. I've never heard of Pepsi Fire.
>
> Cheri

Pepsi Fire has a heavy cinnamon kick to it. The effect is similar to snorting cinnamon powder. Not fun. It's the only soft drink that some training before consuming is recommended.

On 7/10/2017 12:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:14:32 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f9628335-29ff-46a9-825f-
>>
>>> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not recommended.
>>> That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying my
>>> computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
>>
>> I really liked the taste of Pepsi Max, but it didn't agree with me the few
>> times I had it. I've never heard of Pepsi Fire.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Pepsi Fire has a heavy cinnamon kick to it. The effect is similar to snorting cinnamon powder. Not fun. It's the only soft drink that some training before consuming is recommended.
>


to try to relive the days of your youth when you experienced your first
few carbonated belches up the nose?

On 2017-07-10 3:10 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

>> The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it helped
>> Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke suddenly
>> started buying Coke.
>
> It was brilliant and the most cynical advertising campaign ever - or was it?

I don't think it was brilliant or cynical advertising. They had been
losing market share steadily to Pepsi and to non cola soft drinks. They
wanted to alter the formula to what people liked. That backfired.
People rebelled and insisted that they wanted their old Coke back, so
the company did some quick damage control, renamed the new product New
Coke and the old one Coke Classic. Their sales almost doubled within a
few months and their market share stayed high for years. It was more
serendipity than brilliance.



>
> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not recommended. That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying my computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...VCPqj3T38GBtbz
>

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:31:57 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 12:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:14:32 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f9628335-29ff-46a9-825f-
> >>
> >>> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not recommended.
> >>> That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying my
> >>> computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
> >>
> >> I really liked the taste of Pepsi Max, but it didn't agree with me the few
> >> times I had it. I've never heard of Pepsi Fire.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > Pepsi Fire has a heavy cinnamon kick to it. The effect is similar to snorting cinnamon powder. Not fun. It's the only soft drink that some training before consuming is recommended.
> >
>
>
> to try to relive the days of your youth when you experienced your first
> few carbonated belches up the nose?

I don't know why this drink even exists. It could be the most brilliant and cynical drink ever!

On 2017-07-10 3:37 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> to try to relive the days of your youth when you experienced your first
>> few carbonated belches up the nose?
>
> I don't know why this drink even exists. It could be the most brilliant and cynical drink ever!
>

It's always a good idea to learn two new words each day and to use them
in a sentence. In fact, it is a brilliant and cynical idea.

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:44:16 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 7/9/2017 11:05 AM, wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> There is no reason to insist anyone adopt a pet before they are ready.
>>
>> There's no good reason to insist on constantly orating about adopting
>> a replacement pet on a daily/hourly basis. Regardless the topic on a
>> public newsgroup when someone wants no comments then they need to STFU
>> about it... so long as Gary harps on the subject then he is inviting
>> comments... and of all types... I have just as much right to voice my
>> opinion here as anyone else. Please excuse the critter
>> comment/analogy but Gary is literally beating a dead horse. And after
>> about a year of posting a torrent of crocodile tears Gary has offered
>> not one good reason for not replacing his pet... after a year "NOT
>> BEING READY" is not any kind of reason... makes as much sense as a 40
>> year old woman not being ready to lose her virginity.
>>
>
>I have my reasons, Sheldo, that you don't understand.
>As SW would say about your nasty, know-it-all posts.... "YAWN"

I understand quite well... after a year of crocodile tears you
will never be ready so if you don't want comments just STFU about it
already.

You've already worn out a dozen months of sympathy mats. It's long
ago gotten to the point where I didn't believe you gave a fiddler's
**** for that ferret... it's all about your own self pity and luring
as many people as possible to feel sorry for YOU... WAH! WAH! WAH!
Gary, you are a pitiful excuse for a human being. I feel sorry for
your ferret for having to live under your control. I hope you never
get another ferret to torture by leaving it all alone all day in total
isolation.

And I don't want to hear about the expense of caring for a pet, that's
a given, any sane person knows a pet is a forever child.
Gary doesn't deserve an ant farm, Gary doesn't deserve a Chia Pet.

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 9.44...
>> On Mon 10 Jul 2017 08:47:57a, Janet told us...
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On Sun 09 Jul 2017 04:52:49p, Janet told us...
>>>>
>>>> > In article >,
>>>> > says...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 7/9/2017 5:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> >> > Yes, getting kittens or puppies from a shelter is still
>>>> >> > better than going to a breeder, if you ask me. Breeders
>>>> >> > shouldn't exist while there are still lots of shelter
>>>> >> > animals looking for a home.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If breeders didn't exist, there would be no shelter animals
>>>> >> available.
>>>> >
>>>> > Don't be silly
>>>> >
>>>> > Breeders produce pedigree dogs. Most dogs in shelters are
>>>> > cross breeds
>>>> > and mongrels which did not come from breeders.
>>>> >
>>>> > Janet UK
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Most cross breeds and mongrels are a result of the owners not
>>>> having the common sense to have their animals spayed or neutered.
>>>
>>> Exactly. That's why UK animal shelters neuter all their cats
>>> and dogs
>>> (M,F, pedigree and mutts) before they are rehomed.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Most shelters in the US do that as well.
>
> Every one of them I know does. They include the cost as part of the
> adoption
> fee.
>
> Che
>
> ==
>
> Yes, and the one I use inserts a tracking chip before all animals are
> rehomed.

Same here, when we adopted her she had a chip but the original owners
declined to retreive her from the pound the second time around, so we had to
mail a fee and change the name by showing proof of adoption. I don't
understand how owners could just let their dog go like that, she was just a
couple of days from being put down when Animal Friends Connection rescued
her. On the other hand, I'm glad they didn't care enough about her to get
her back because I have a feeling their care was terrible.

Cheri

==

Yes, those people should never be allowed to keep animals.

I hope they rot in hell.

Pity the can't get a taste of what they put those poor dogs through.

OTOH at least they get all the love they need from us

Just as well!!!

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:14:32 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f9628335-29ff-46a9-825f-
>
> > I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not recommended.
> > That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying
> > my
> > computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
>
> I really liked the taste of Pepsi Max, but it didn't agree with me the few
> times I had it. I've never heard of Pepsi Fire.
>
> Cheri

Pepsi Fire has a heavy cinnamon kick to it. The effect is similar to
snorting cinnamon powder. Not fun. It's the only soft drink that some
training before consuming is recommended.

==

Bleah ... ;-)


http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 12:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:33:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2017-07-10 3:10 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>> The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it helped
> >>>> Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke suddenly
> >>>> started buying Coke.
> >>>
> >>> It was brilliant and the most cynical advertising campaign ever - or was it?
> >>
> >> I don't think it was brilliant or cynical advertising. They had been
> >> losing market share steadily to Pepsi and to non cola soft drinks. They
> >> wanted to alter the formula to what people liked. That backfired.
> >> People rebelled and insisted that they wanted their old Coke back, so
> >> the company did some quick damage control, renamed the new product New
> >> Coke and the old one Coke Classic. Their sales almost doubled within a
> >> few months and their market share stayed high for years. It was more
> >> serendipity than brilliance.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not recommended. That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying my computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...VCPqj3T38GBtbz
> >>>
> >
> > That's what makes it so beautiful. Nobody can believe that it's the most brilliant and cynical advertising campaign ever! Heck, even I can't believe it!
> >
>
> now it is a beautiful, brilliant and cynical advertising campaign.

It's a wonderful world where such things can exist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzh4sWPxjIc

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 10:09:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:14:32 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f9628335-29ff-46a9-825f-
> >
> > > I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not recommended.
> > > That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying
> > > my
> > > computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
> >
> > I really liked the taste of Pepsi Max, but it didn't agree with me the few
> > times I had it. I've never heard of Pepsi Fire.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> Pepsi Fire has a heavy cinnamon kick to it. The effect is similar to
> snorting cinnamon powder. Not fun. It's the only soft drink that some
> training before consuming is recommended.
>
> ==
>
> Bleah ... ;-)
>
>
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Personally, I love cinnamon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVjJ8rqFA_8

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 12:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:33:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2017-07-10 3:10 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>> The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it helped
> >>>> Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke
> >>>> suddenly
> >>>> started buying Coke.
> >>>
> >>> It was brilliant and the most cynical advertising campaign ever - or
> >>> was it?
> >>
> >> I don't think it was brilliant or cynical advertising. They had been
> >> losing market share steadily to Pepsi and to non cola soft drinks. They
> >> wanted to alter the formula to what people liked. That backfired.
> >> People rebelled and insisted that they wanted their old Coke back, so
> >> the company did some quick damage control, renamed the new product New
> >> Coke and the old one Coke Classic. Their sales almost doubled within a
> >> few months and their market share stayed high for years. It was more
> >> serendipity than brilliance.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not
> >>> recommended. That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I
> >>> ended up spraying my computer screen. I highly recommend using a
> >>> straw.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...VCPqj3T38GBtbz
> >>>
> >
> > That's what makes it so beautiful. Nobody can believe that it's the most
> > brilliant and cynical advertising campaign ever! Heck, even I can't
> > believe it!
> >
>
> now it is a beautiful, brilliant and cynical advertising campaign.

It's a wonderful world where such things can exist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzh4sWPxjIc

==

LOL Brilliant)



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"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 10:09:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:14:32 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f9628335-29ff-46a9-825f-
> >
> > > I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not
> > > recommended.
> > > That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying
> > > my
> > > computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
> >
> > I really liked the taste of Pepsi Max, but it didn't agree with me the
> > few
> > times I had it. I've never heard of Pepsi Fire.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> Pepsi Fire has a heavy cinnamon kick to it. The effect is similar to
> snorting cinnamon powder. Not fun. It's the only soft drink that some
> training before consuming is recommended.
>
> ==
>
> Bleah ... ;-)
>
>
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Personally, I love cinnamon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVjJ8rqFA_8

==

I am pleased for you ... please take my share <g>



--
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On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 2:57:52 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > On 7/10/2017 12:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:33:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> On 2017-07-10 3:10 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it helped
> > >>>> Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke
> > >>>> suddenly
> > >>>> started buying Coke.
> > >>>
> > >>> It was brilliant and the most cynical advertising campaign ever - or
> > >>> was it?
> > >>
> > >> I don't think it was brilliant or cynical advertising. They had been
> > >> losing market share steadily to Pepsi and to non cola soft drinks. They
> > >> wanted to alter the formula to what people liked. That backfired.
> > >> People rebelled and insisted that they wanted their old Coke back, so
> > >> the company did some quick damage control, renamed the new product New
> > >> Coke and the old one Coke Classic. Their sales almost doubled within a
> > >> few months and their market share stayed high for years. It was more
> > >> serendipity than brilliance.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not
> > >>> recommended. That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I
> > >>> ended up spraying my computer screen. I highly recommend using a
> > >>> straw.
> > >>>
> > >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...VCPqj3T38GBtbz
> > >>>
> > >
> > > That's what makes it so beautiful. Nobody can believe that it's the most
> > > brilliant and cynical advertising campaign ever! Heck, even I can't
> > > believe it!
> > >
> >
> > now it is a beautiful, brilliant and cynical advertising campaign.
>
> It's a wonderful world where such things can exist!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzh4sWPxjIc
>
> ==
>
> LOL Brilliant)
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

That cinnamony new flavour is CRAP...have my share as well.

Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >,
> lid says...
> > I think that if he gets them neutered, he's doing a great job
> > looking after them and reducing the problem at the same time. But I
> > really have my doubts about catching feral cats.
> >
>
> Another example of your ignorance.
>
> True feral cats can never become domestic pets; but colonies left
> to breed uncontrollably become a generational reservoir of disease,
> infection and parasites that causes real suffering.
>
> Cat rescue charities trap and neuter feral cats then find outdoor
> homes (often on farms which appreciate rodent control) with owners
> willing to supplement feeding when required and medicate (via food).
>
>
> Janet Uk

Sorry Janet UK, but they can be. It's not however a basic skill or one
Sheldon shows he has.

How did humans first domesticate a cat? By working with a feral. Yes,
it can be done.

--

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 10:57:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 10:09:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:14:32 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f9628335-29ff-46a9-825f-
> > >
> > > > I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not
> > > > recommended.
> > > > That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up spraying
> > > > my
> > > > computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
> > >
> > > I really liked the taste of Pepsi Max, but it didn't agree with me the
> > > few
> > > times I had it. I've never heard of Pepsi Fire.
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > Pepsi Fire has a heavy cinnamon kick to it. The effect is similar to
> > snorting cinnamon powder. Not fun. It's the only soft drink that some
> > training before consuming is recommended.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Bleah ... ;-)
> >
> >
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Personally, I love cinnamon!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVjJ8rqFA_8
>
> ==
>
> I am pleased for you ... please take my share <g>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Looks like I'm the rfc toxic waste repository.

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 2:57:52 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > > On 7/10/2017 12:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:33:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >> On 2017-07-10 3:10 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it helped
> > > >>>> Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke
> > > >>>> suddenly
> > > >>>> started buying Coke.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It was brilliant and the most cynical advertising campaign ever - or
> > > >>> was it?
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't think it was brilliant or cynical advertising. They had been
> > > >> losing market share steadily to Pepsi and to non cola soft drinks. They
> > > >> wanted to alter the formula to what people liked. That backfired.
> > > >> People rebelled and insisted that they wanted their old Coke back, so
> > > >> the company did some quick damage control, renamed the new product New
> > > >> Coke and the old one Coke Classic. Their sales almost doubled within a
> > > >> few months and their market share stayed high for years. It was more
> > > >> serendipity than brilliance.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not
> > > >>> recommended. That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I
> > > >>> ended up spraying my computer screen. I highly recommend using a
> > > >>> straw.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...VCPqj3T38GBtbz
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > > That's what makes it so beautiful. Nobody can believe that it's the most
> > > > brilliant and cynical advertising campaign ever! Heck, even I can't
> > > > believe it!
> > > >
> > >
> > > now it is a beautiful, brilliant and cynical advertising campaign.
> >
> > It's a wonderful world where such things can exist!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzh4sWPxjIc
> >
> > ==
> >
> > LOL Brilliant)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> That cinnamony new flavour is CRAP...have my share as well.

I shall alert the Queen Mum straight away.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 2:57:52 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > > On 7/10/2017 12:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:33:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >> On 2017-07-10 3:10 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it
> > > >>>> helped
> > > >>>> Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke
> > > >>>> suddenly
> > > >>>> started buying Coke.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It was brilliant and the most cynical advertising campaign ever -
> > > >>> or
> > > >>> was it?
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't think it was brilliant or cynical advertising. They had
> > > >> been
> > > >> losing market share steadily to Pepsi and to non cola soft drinks.
> > > >> They
> > > >> wanted to alter the formula to what people liked. That backfired.
> > > >> People rebelled and insisted that they wanted their old Coke back,
> > > >> so
> > > >> the company did some quick damage control, renamed the new product
> > > >> New
> > > >> Coke and the old one Coke Classic. Their sales almost doubled
> > > >> within a
> > > >> few months and their market share stayed high for years. It was
> > > >> more
> > > >> serendipity than brilliance.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not
> > > >>> recommended. That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I
> > > >>> ended up spraying my computer screen. I highly recommend using a
> > > >>> straw.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...VCPqj3T38GBtbz
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > > That's what makes it so beautiful. Nobody can believe that it's the
> > > > most
> > > > brilliant and cynical advertising campaign ever! Heck, even I can't
> > > > believe it!
> > > >
> > >
> > > now it is a beautiful, brilliant and cynical advertising campaign.
> >
> > It's a wonderful world where such things can exist!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzh4sWPxjIc
> >
> > ==
> >
> > LOL Brilliant)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> That cinnamony new flavour is CRAP...have my share as well.

I shall alert the Queen Mum straight away.

==

Not sure which Queen Mum you mean but ours is long gone ... unless ... you
do spooky stuff???



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 10:57:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 10:09:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:14:32 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > > "dsi1" <dsi1yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f9628335-29ff-46a9-825f-
> > >
> > > > I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not
> > > > recommended.
> > > > That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I ended up
> > > > spraying
> > > > my
> > > > computer screen. I highly recommend using a straw.
> > >
> > > I really liked the taste of Pepsi Max, but it didn't agree with me the
> > > few
> > > times I had it. I've never heard of Pepsi Fire.
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > Pepsi Fire has a heavy cinnamon kick to it. The effect is similar to
> > snorting cinnamon powder. Not fun. It's the only soft drink that some
> > training before consuming is recommended.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Bleah ... ;-)
> >
> >
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> Personally, I love cinnamon!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVjJ8rqFA_8
>
> ==
>
> I am pleased for you ... please take my share <g>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Looks like I'm the rfc toxic waste repository.

==

??? I thought many people here love it, or is that not what you mean?


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On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:44:59 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 2:57:52 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > > > On 7/10/2017 12:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:33:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > >> On 2017-07-10 3:10 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it
> > > > >>>> helped
> > > > >>>> Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke
> > > > >>>> suddenly
> > > > >>>> started buying Coke.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It was brilliant and the most cynical advertising campaign ever -
> > > > >>> or
> > > > >>> was it?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I don't think it was brilliant or cynical advertising. They had
> > > > >> been
> > > > >> losing market share steadily to Pepsi and to non cola soft drinks.
> > > > >> They
> > > > >> wanted to alter the formula to what people liked. That backfired.
> > > > >> People rebelled and insisted that they wanted their old Coke back,
> > > > >> so
> > > > >> the company did some quick damage control, renamed the new product
> > > > >> New
> > > > >> Coke and the old one Coke Classic. Their sales almost doubled
> > > > >> within a
> > > > >> few months and their market share stayed high for years. It was
> > > > >> more
> > > > >> serendipity than brilliance.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not
> > > > >>> recommended. That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid. I
> > > > >>> ended up spraying my computer screen. I highly recommend using a
> > > > >>> straw.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...VCPqj3T38GBtbz
> > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > > That's what makes it so beautiful. Nobody can believe that it's the
> > > > > most
> > > > > brilliant and cynical advertising campaign ever! Heck, even I can't
> > > > > believe it!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > now it is a beautiful, brilliant and cynical advertising campaign.
> > >
> > > It's a wonderful world where such things can exist!
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzh4sWPxjIc
> > >
> > > ==
> > >
> > > LOL Brilliant)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > That cinnamony new flavour is CRAP...have my share as well.
>
> I shall alert the Queen Mum straight away.
>
> ==
>
> Not sure which Queen Mum you mean but ours is long gone ... unless ... you
> do spooky stuff???
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I suppose there is no Queen Mum anymore. That's a shame. I wish we had a national grandmother. This person might come the closest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CxH2iHVWUg

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:44:59 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-10, Roy wrote:
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 2:57:52 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > > > On 7/10/2017 12:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:33:22 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > >> On 2017-07-10 3:10 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> The change looked like a disaster at first, but in the end it
> > > > >>>> helped
> > > > >>>> Coke sales. All those people who had preferred Pepsi over Coke
> > > > >>>> suddenly
> > > > >>>> started buying Coke.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It was brilliant and the most cynical advertising campaign
> > > > >>> ever -
> > > > >>> or
> > > > >>> was it?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I don't think it was brilliant or cynical advertising. They had
> > > > >> been
> > > > >> losing market share steadily to Pepsi and to non cola soft
> > > > >> drinks.
> > > > >> They
> > > > >> wanted to alter the formula to what people liked. That
> > > > >> backfired.
> > > > >> People rebelled and insisted that they wanted their old Coke
> > > > >> back,
> > > > >> so
> > > > >> the company did some quick damage control, renamed the new
> > > > >> product
> > > > >> New
> > > > >> Coke and the old one Coke Classic. Their sales almost doubled
> > > > >> within a
> > > > >> few months and their market share stayed high for years. It was
> > > > >> more
> > > > >> serendipity than brilliance.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I had some Pepsi Fire last night. Slurping the stuff is not
> > > > >>> recommended. That noxious air/fluid mix hit my sinus like acid.
> > > > >>> I
> > > > >>> ended up spraying my computer screen. I highly recommend using a
> > > > >>> straw.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...VCPqj3T38GBtbz
> > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > > That's what makes it so beautiful. Nobody can believe that it's
> > > > > the
> > > > > most
> > > > > brilliant and cynical advertising campaign ever! Heck, even I
> > > > > can't
> > > > > believe it!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > now it is a beautiful, brilliant and cynical advertising campaign.
> > >
> > > It's a wonderful world where such things can exist!
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzh4sWPxjIc
> > >
> > > ==
> > >
> > > LOL Brilliant)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >
> > That cinnamony new flavour is CRAP...have my share as well.
>
> I shall alert the Queen Mum straight away.
>
> ==
>
> Not sure which Queen Mum you mean but ours is long gone ... unless ...
> you
> do spooky stuff???
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I suppose there is no Queen Mum anymore. That's a shame. I wish we had a
national grandmother. This person might come the closest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CxH2iHVWUg


==

If you have a lot of respect for her, why not?))) Although if you really
wanted to, the Queen is a Mum too )





--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 7/9/2017 10:36 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:59:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>> And again... You are assuming that all stores have Customer Service. They
>> don't. Also assuming that Customer Service will have an answer. They will,
>> but it's generally the wrong one. Add in the fact that you may have to stand
>> there for 10-15 minutes while they call someone to help you.
>
I'm "assuming" based on 35 years grocery shopping experience at many
different stores over the years.

> Holy crap!
>
Echo that, Doris!

> Around here (southern Ontario), if I can't find something in any of
> the 3 grocery stores in town, I just walk up to the nearest employee -
> usually someone stocking shelves - and ask. They will usually lead me
> directly to the item I am looking for. If they don't know where it is,
> they'll flag down someone else.
>
Exactly, Doris. Even if the people stocking the shelves aren't
technically store employees (some items are stocked by the vendors),
they'll usually find someone to help you.

> I've never waited for help finding something, and if the store doesn't
> carry the item, they'll tell you right away, and perhaps even suggest
> an alternate store that may have what you need.
>
> Doris
>
She must shop at some really **** poor stores.

Jill

On 7/10/2017 10:57 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 7/9/2017 8:33 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>> He also provides food and water for them. He even ran
>>>> electricity to the barn where they sleep so they can have heat in the
>>>> winter. They have comfy beds and fresh water. He doesn't have a
>>>> problem with rats or mice, that's for sure.
>>>
>>> I think that if he gets them neutered, he's doing a great job looking
>>> after them and reducing the problem at the same time. But I really
>>> have my doubts about catching feral cats.
>>
>> Sheldon has made the classic mistake of totally domesticating wildlife.
>> When he dies eventually, so will all the ferals that are used to his care.
>
> Highly unlikely; his ferals live and hunt outside all year round.
> They may enjoy supplementary feeding but if it wasn't there, they're
> very able to fend for themselves.
>
> Janet UK
>
Those cats wouldn't be ferals if some idiot hadn't dumped them, intact
(aka not neutered/spayed) and left them to their own devices in the
first place.

Jill

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:00 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 7/9/2017 10:36 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:59:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> And again... You are assuming that all stores have Customer Service. They
> >> don't. Also assuming that Customer Service will have an answer. They will,
> >> but it's generally the wrong one. Add in the fact that you may have to stand
> >> there for 10-15 minutes while they call someone to help you.
> >
> I'm "assuming" based on 35 years grocery shopping experience at many
> different stores over the years.
>
> > Holy crap!
> >
> Echo that, Doris!
>
> > Around here (southern Ontario), if I can't find something in any of
> > the 3 grocery stores in town, I just walk up to the nearest employee -
> > usually someone stocking shelves - and ask. They will usually lead me
> > directly to the item I am looking for. If they don't know where it is,
> > they'll flag down someone else.
> >
> Exactly, Doris. Even if the people stocking the shelves aren't
> technically store employees (some items are stocked by the vendors),
> they'll usually find someone to help you.
>
> > I've never waited for help finding something, and if the store doesn't
> > carry the item, they'll tell you right away, and perhaps even suggest
> > an alternate store that may have what you need.
> >
> > Doris
> >
> She must shop at some really **** poor stores.
>
> Jill

Having operated retail grocery stores for years, I can guarantee that SHE would
have been a ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS to deal with.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 7/9/2017 10:36 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:59:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> And again... You are assuming that all stores have Customer Service.
>>> They
>>> don't. Also assuming that Customer Service will have an answer. They
>>> will,
>>> but it's generally the wrong one. Add in the fact that you may have to
>>> stand
>>> there for 10-15 minutes while they call someone to help you.
>>
> I'm "assuming" based on 35 years grocery shopping experience at many
> different stores over the years.
>
>> Holy crap!
>>
> Echo that, Doris!

You two have only been shopping for 35 years? Wow! Who did your shopping
before that?
>
>> Around here (southern Ontario), if I can't find something in any of
>> the 3 grocery stores in town, I just walk up to the nearest employee -
>> usually someone stocking shelves - and ask. They will usually lead me
>> directly to the item I am looking for. If they don't know where it is,
>> they'll flag down someone else.
>>
> Exactly, Doris. Even if the people stocking the shelves aren't
> technically store employees (some items are stocked by the vendors),
> they'll usually find someone to help you.

Well then your stores must be totally different. Most of the shelf stocking
here is done at night. Most of the stores here are closed at night. I only
know of two that are open 24 hours but I got an email telling me that
another will be. Can't remember now which one that is. Either PCC. Central
Market or Whole Foods.

You will see vendors stocking things and once in a while if there is a
rapidly selling sale item, you will see someone stocking that. That doesn't
mean that the person will know where something is in the store or even if
they carried it. I did get an answer at Winco about Velveeta. Not an
entirely correct answer. That guy did lead me to an end cap of Velveeta. But
he did not know where the shelf space was dedicated to it. I did find it on
a subsquent trip. It was with the boxed mac and cheese.

Many of the stores around here seem to be in a constant state of remodel or
semi remodel. So it's no wonder that the employees had no clue. Two of the
items I have asked about in the past do not have a permanent home, at least
in the stores where I asked. One was Lay's Stax. I was told by one employee
that the vendor puts some cans of them near the checkouts once in a while.
They seem to be rather random and they never have many at one time. For some
reason, this is an item that a lot of stores do not carry, even though they
carry that brand. Another was a certain kind of bagel chip. They are almost
always on a rolling rack and it's usually somewhere in the deli department
but at the new Safeway, they were found with produce. Another thing I have
asked about is Fritos Hot Bean Dip. I even got a response online from the
vendor that was wrong. I was told that there would be a big sale at all
stores (true) and that tons of dip would appear on the shelves (also true).
But no hot dip ever showed up. Just the plain bean which I don't like so
much. At least now I have an online source for that.
>
>> I've never waited for help finding something, and if the store doesn't
>> carry the item, they'll tell you right away, and perhaps even suggest
>> an alternate store that may have what you need.
>>
>> Doris
>>
> She must shop at some really **** poor stores.

One store that I might consider **** poor is Grocery Outlet, otherwise known
as Gross Out. But each store is different and some are better than others.
When I asked a question online, the owner of the Everett store was very nice
to me. And the store itself was okay save for the rotting produce out front.
I just didn't like some of the seedy customers or the way they had to treat
people who used a debit or credit card when they checked out. Had to show
other I.D. as they get too many stolen cards.

The other stores I shop at are pretty typical at least for this area.
Albertsons, Safeway, Winco, Walmart, PCC, Whole Foods, Walmart and Central
Market. Of the bunch I would have to say that PCC is best in terms of
customer service but perhaps it is because they are a smaller store and have
less goods to sell. Whole Foods probably would come next but even then, I
remember asking once for something that Angela wanted. I think it was
Siraccha sauce. The guy had no clue, directed us to clearly the wrong aisle
and then said they must not have it. They did have it. We found it
ourselves. Another time when she wanted a pair of Tom's shoes and they
didn't have her size on the rack, the cashier sent someone to the back room
to get them.

The worst customer service would have to be at Walmart where nobody ever
seems to know anything and their stock mysteriously changes every time I go
in there.

But bottom line... I did work in retail for many years. That in and of
itself was enough to let me know that most of the store employees are not
going to know where things are or even who else that they might ask. I was
one of the few who did, perhaps only because I worked in so many different
departments over the years, including the office, and I knew who the
management was. Many of our employees just came and went. They might be
there 2-3 weeks and then we'd never see them again. The same seems to be
true in a lot of the other stores where I've shopped.

On 7/11/2017 4:15 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:00 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 7/9/2017 10:36 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:59:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> And again... You are assuming that all stores have Customer Service. They
>>>> don't. Also assuming that Customer Service will have an answer. They will,
>>>> but it's generally the wrong one. Add in the fact that you may have to stand
>>>> there for 10-15 minutes while they call someone to help you.
>>>
>> I'm "assuming" based on 35 years grocery shopping experience at many
>> different stores over the years.
>>
>>> Holy crap!
>>>
>> Echo that, Doris!
>>
>>> Around here (southern Ontario), if I can't find something in any of
>>> the 3 grocery stores in town, I just walk up to the nearest employee -
>>> usually someone stocking shelves - and ask. They will usually lead me
>>> directly to the item I am looking for. If they don't know where it is,
>>> they'll flag down someone else.
>>>
>> Exactly, Doris. Even if the people stocking the shelves aren't
>> technically store employees (some items are stocked by the vendors),
>> they'll usually find someone to help you.
>>
>>> I've never waited for help finding something, and if the store doesn't
>>> carry the item, they'll tell you right away, and perhaps even suggest
>>> an alternate store that may have what you need.
>>>
>>> Doris
>>>
>> She must shop at some really **** poor stores.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Having operated retail grocery stores for years, I can guarantee that SHE would
> have been a ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS to deal with.
>
You just know if an employee made a suggestion for some alternative item
it would be rejected. For a myriad of reasons. Wrong brand, don't like
that, can't eat that, so and so won't eat it.

I'm extremely grateful I don't have such problems when I'm shopping for
groceries.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> You just know if an employee made a suggestion for some alternative item
> it would be rejected. For a myriad of reasons. Wrong brand, don't like
> that, can't eat that, so and so won't eat it.
>
> I'm extremely grateful I don't have such problems when I'm shopping for
> groceries.

Why would I want an employee to make a suggestion for an alterative item? If
I am looking for a specific item, then that's what I want. Not something
that is sort of like that. If you asked for peas but the store was out,
would you want them to suggest that you buy corn instead?