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![]() This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food cost, migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and pesticides. Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat walls. https://www.nbcnews.com/mach Janet US |
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On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food cost, > migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and pesticides. > Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat walls. > > https://www.nbcnews.com/mach > > Janet US > It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently feed 8 or 10 billion people in the future. There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are in a flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to build a wall to keep people out, but we want our fields picked cheap. Chemicals, especially pesticides will go under a revolution too. I think the quest for organics will push the changes. They probably won't be eliminated but will be more specialized and targeted to do more with less. I also wonder if the earth will have a catastrophic event that will wipe out a large portion of the population. Plague, volcano, war, earthquake, whatever. |
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On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > > > > This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food cost, > > migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and pesticides. > > Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat walls. > > > > https://www.nbcnews.com/mach > > > > Janet US > > > > It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently feed 8 or > 10 billion people in the future. > > There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are in a > flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to build a wall to > keep people out, but we want our fields picked cheap. > > Chemicals, especially pesticides will go under a revolution too. I > think the quest for organics will push the changes. They probably won't > be eliminated but will be more specialized and targeted to do more with > less. > > I also wonder if the earth will have a catastrophic event that will wipe > out a large portion of the population. Plague, volcano, war, > earthquake, whatever. Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae or some other simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to be generic food material like puppy chow but food will be cheap and there will be enough for most of the world. People will be appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. |
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On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:06:23 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae or some other > simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to be generic food material like > puppy chow but food will be cheap and there will be enough for most of the > world. People will be appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. Ah, Soylent Yellow and Soylent Red. Followed by the even more nutritious Soylent Green. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> > >> > This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food cost, >> > migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and pesticides. >> > Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat walls. >> > >> > https://www.nbcnews.com/mach >> > >> > Janet US >> > >> >> It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently feed 8 or >> 10 billion people in the future. >> >> There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are in a >> flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to build a wall to >> keep people out, but we want our fields picked cheap. >> >> Chemicals, especially pesticides will go under a revolution too. I >> think the quest for organics will push the changes. They probably won't >> be eliminated but will be more specialized and targeted to do more with >> less. >> >> I also wonder if the earth will have a catastrophic event that will wipe >> out a large portion of the population. Plague, volcano, war, >> earthquake, whatever. > >Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae or some other simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to be generic food material like puppy chow but food will be cheap and there will be enough for most of the world. People will be appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. The algae tests that I have read about were researching cheap energy (fuel) sources |
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On 7/12/2017 11:33 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>>> >>>> This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food cost, >>>> migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and pesticides. >>>> Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat walls. >>>> >>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach >>>> >>>> Janet US >>>> >>> >>> It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently feed 8 or >>> 10 billion people in the future. >>> >>> There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are in a >>> flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to build a wall to >>> keep people out, but we want our fields picked cheap. >>> >> >> Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae or some other simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to be generic food material like puppy chow but food will be cheap and there will be enough for most of the world. People will be appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. > > The algae tests that I have read about were researching cheap energy > (fuel) sources > I can guarantee you, I will never be eating algae products. I don't eat tofu, never will. And there will never be a time in my life when I eat food that comes out of a 3-D printer. Jill |
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On 2017-07-12, jmcquown > wrote:
> And there will never be a time in my life when I eat > food that comes out of a 3-D printer. Howzabout live in a 3D printed house? ![]() nb |
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On 12 Jul 2017 16:16:28 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2017-07-12, jmcquown > wrote: > >> And there will never be a time in my life when I eat >> food that comes out of a 3-D printer. > >Howzabout live in a 3D printed house? ![]() > >nb saw that done on a TV program |
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On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 5:33:41 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi10yahoo.com> > wrote: > > >On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >> > > >> > This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food cost, > >> > migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and pesticides. > >> > Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat walls. > >> > > >> > https://www.nbcnews.com/mach > >> > > >> > Janet US > >> > > >> > >> It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently feed 8 or > >> 10 billion people in the future. > >> > >> There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are in a > >> flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to build a wall to > >> keep people out, but we want our fields picked cheap. > >> > >> Chemicals, especially pesticides will go under a revolution too. I > >> think the quest for organics will push the changes. They probably won't > >> be eliminated but will be more specialized and targeted to do more with > >> less. > >> > >> I also wonder if the earth will have a catastrophic event that will wipe > >> out a large portion of the population. Plague, volcano, war, > >> earthquake, whatever. > > > >Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae or some other simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to be generic food material like puppy chow but food will be cheap and there will be enough for most of the world. People will be appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. > > The algae tests that I have read about were researching cheap energy > (fuel) sources It's all the same thing - converting sunlight into biomass. Then converting biomass to food or energy. |
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On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 12:01:14 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> I can guarantee you, I will never be eating algae products. I don't eat > tofu, never will. And there will never be a time in my life when I eat > food that comes out of a 3-D printer. Tofu isn't so bad. It's like fresh mozzarella. White, moist, and basically flavorless. It does absorb other flavors beautifully, though. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 7/12/2017 12:09 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 09:01:06a, jmcquown told us... > >> On 7/12/2017 11:33 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food >>>>>> cost, migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and >>>>>> pesticides. Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat >>>>>> walls. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach >>>>>> >>>>>> Janet US >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently >>>>> feed 8 or 10 billion people in the future. >>>>> >>>>> There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are >>>>> in a flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to >>>>> build a wall to keep people out, but we want our fields picked >>>>> cheap. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae >>>> or some other simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to >>>> be generic food material like puppy chow but food will be cheap >>>> and there will be enough for most of the world. People will be >>>> appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. >>> >>> The algae tests that I have read about were researching cheap >>> energy (fuel) sources >>> >> I can guarantee you, I will never be eating algae products. I >> don't eat tofu, never will. And there will never be a time in my >> life when I eat food that comes out of a 3-D printer. >> >> Jill >> > > Just think, Jill, if you had a 3-D printer for food, you could > probably eliminate almost every appliance in your kitchen. :-))) > No kitchen required. Just a plate and printer. I had green food yesterday, I'll have the red today. For dessert, a blob of yellow please. Yeah, this is going to be slick in the future. Dinner parties will be like finger painting. |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:34:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 5:33:41 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi10yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >> >On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> >> > >> >> > This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food cost, >> >> > migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and pesticides. >> >> > Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat walls. >> >> > >> >> > https://www.nbcnews.com/mach >> >> > >> >> > Janet US >> >> > >> >> >> >> It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently feed 8 or >> >> 10 billion people in the future. >> >> >> >> There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are in a >> >> flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to build a wall to >> >> keep people out, but we want our fields picked cheap. >> >> >> >> Chemicals, especially pesticides will go under a revolution too. I >> >> think the quest for organics will push the changes. They probably won't >> >> be eliminated but will be more specialized and targeted to do more with >> >> less. >> >> >> >> I also wonder if the earth will have a catastrophic event that will wipe >> >> out a large portion of the population. Plague, volcano, war, >> >> earthquake, whatever. >> > >> >Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae or some other simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to be generic food material like puppy chow but food will be cheap and there will be enough for most of the world. People will be appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. >> >> The algae tests that I have read about were researching cheap energy >> (fuel) sources > >It's all the same thing - converting sunlight into biomass. Then converting biomass to food or energy. the advantage is that algae is such a fact grower and needs very little to support it. |
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On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 8:13:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:34:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi100hoo.com> > wrote: > > >On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 5:33:41 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1ahoo.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> >> On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food cost, > >> >> > migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and pesticides. > >> >> > Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat walls. > >> >> > > >> >> > https://www.nbcnews.com/mach > >> >> > > >> >> > Janet US > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently feed 8 or > >> >> 10 billion people in the future. > >> >> > >> >> There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are in a > >> >> flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to build a wall to > >> >> keep people out, but we want our fields picked cheap. > >> >> > >> >> Chemicals, especially pesticides will go under a revolution too. I > >> >> think the quest for organics will push the changes. They probably won't > >> >> be eliminated but will be more specialized and targeted to do more with > >> >> less. > >> >> > >> >> I also wonder if the earth will have a catastrophic event that will wipe > >> >> out a large portion of the population. Plague, volcano, war, > >> >> earthquake, whatever. > >> > > >> >Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae or some other simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to be generic food material like puppy chow but food will be cheap and there will be enough for most of the world. People will be appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. > >> > >> The algae tests that I have read about were researching cheap energy > >> (fuel) sources > > > >It's all the same thing - converting sunlight into biomass. Then converting biomass to food or energy. > the advantage is that algae is such a fact grower and needs very > little to support it. It will be the future because it's going to be dirt cheap to produce food cubes i.e., profitable. We won't be eating algae anyway - just food made from the raw materials from it. If had a choice between a Big Mac or food cubes at buck or so, I'd take the cubes. It's going to be a lot cheaper and healthier. You know how people could see how electricity could change everything back over a hundred years or so ago? This is the same thing. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
On 7/12/2017 12:09 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: > On Wed 12 Jul 2017 09:01:06a, jmcquown told us... > >> On 7/12/2017 11:33 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food >>>>>> cost, migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and >>>>>> pesticides. Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat >>>>>> walls. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach >>>>>> >>>>>> Janet US >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently >>>>> feed 8 or 10 billion people in the future. >>>>> >>>>> There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are >>>>> in a flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to >>>>> build a wall to keep people out, but we want our fields picked >>>>> cheap. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae >>>> or some other simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to >>>> be generic food material like puppy chow but food will be cheap >>>> and there will be enough for most of the world. People will be >>>> appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. >>> >>> The algae tests that I have read about were researching cheap >>> energy (fuel) sources >>> >> I can guarantee you, I will never be eating algae products. I >> don't eat tofu, never will. And there will never be a time in my >> life when I eat food that comes out of a 3-D printer. >> >> Jill >> > > Just think, Jill, if you had a 3-D printer for food, you could > probably eliminate almost every appliance in your kitchen. :-))) > No kitchen required. Just a plate and printer. I had green food yesterday, I'll have the red today. For dessert, a blob of yellow please. Yeah, this is going to be slick in the future. Dinner parties will be like finger painting. == Bleagh. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 7/12/2017 1:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/12/2017 12:09 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 09:01:06a, jmcquown told us... >> >>> On 7/12/2017 11:33 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae >>>> >>> I can guarantee you, I will never be eating algae products. I >>> don't eat tofu, never will. And there will never be a time in my >>> life when I eat food that comes out of a 3-D printer. >>> >>> Jill >>> >> >> Just think, Jill, if you had a 3-D printer for food, you could >> probably eliminate almost every appliance in your kitchen. :-))) >> > > No kitchen required. Just a plate and printer. I had green food > yesterday, I'll have the red today. For dessert, a blob of yellow please. > Yeah, this is going to be slick in the future. Dinner parties will be > like finger painting. But you'll need blue food combined with yellow to make green food. ![]() Jill |
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On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:28:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... > > On 7/12/2017 12:09 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > On Wed 12 Jul 2017 09:01:06a, jmcquown told us... > > > >> On 7/12/2017 11:33 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1ahoo.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> On 7/11/2017 12:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This is a very interesting read. I can see impact to food > >>>>>> cost, migrant worker hiring and application of fertilizers and > >>>>>> pesticides. Interesting plans for reshaping orchards to flat > >>>>>> walls. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Janet US > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> It is interesting. Automation will be needed to efficiently > >>>>> feed 8 or 10 billion people in the future. > >>>>> > >>>>> There will also be some societal changes too. Right now we are > >>>>> in a flux and probably will be for a few years. We want to > >>>>> build a wall to keep people out, but we want our fields picked > >>>>> cheap. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from algae > >>>> or some other simple, fast growing plant. Mostly, it's going to > >>>> be generic food material like puppy chow but food will be cheap > >>>> and there will be enough for most of the world. People will be > >>>> appalled at the idea of eating animal flesh. > >>> > >>> The algae tests that I have read about were researching cheap > >>> energy (fuel) sources > >>> > >> I can guarantee you, I will never be eating algae products. I > >> don't eat tofu, never will. And there will never be a time in my > >> life when I eat food that comes out of a 3-D printer. > >> > >> Jill > >> > > > > Just think, Jill, if you had a 3-D printer for food, you could > > probably eliminate almost every appliance in your kitchen. :-))) > > > > No kitchen required. Just a plate and printer. I had green food > yesterday, I'll have the red today. For dessert, a blob of yellow please.. > Yeah, this is going to be slick in the future. Dinner parties will be > like finger painting. > > == > > Bleagh. > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk It's simply the way technology has a disruptive effect on society. I was at a drugstore (chemist?) today and saw a scientific calculator on sale. This got me thinking about when I started college. We learned to do large number calculations on a slide rule. One day some kid brought in a Sears 4 function hand-held calculator. It was amazing and sold for only $99. By the time I graduated, HP was selling scientific calculators for $600. Hoo boy! The generic Chinese calculator I saw today was going for $11. If I had one of those back in the early 70's, I'd probably be the king of the world by now. ![]() |
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On 7/12/2017 8:58 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 03:52:19p, jmcquown told us... > >> On 7/12/2017 1:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 7/12/2017 12:09 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>>> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 09:01:06a, jmcquown told us... >>>> >>>>> On 7/12/2017 11:33 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from >>>>>>> algae >>>>>> >>>>> I can guarantee you, I will never be eating algae products. I >>>>> don't eat tofu, never will. And there will never be a time in >>>>> my life when I eat food that comes out of a 3-D printer. >>>>> >>>>> Jill >>>>> >>>> >>>> Just think, Jill, if you had a 3-D printer for food, you could >>>> probably eliminate almost every appliance in your kitchen. >>>> :-))) >>>> >>> >>> No kitchen required. Just a plate and printer. I had green food >>> yesterday, I'll have the red today. For dessert, a blob of >>> yellow please. Yeah, this is going to be slick in the future. >>> Dinner parties will be like finger painting. >> >> But you'll need blue food combined with yellow to make green food. >> ![]() >> >> Jill >> > > True that! > Just imagine the cost of the "ink" to make these 3-D foods! You might not need a kitchen but you might need to take out a loan to pay for whatever passes for ink cartridges. LOL > I've recently been seeing commercials for mashed potatoes and riced > potatoes made from cauliflower, and pasta made from zucchini. Do you > suppose they think you'll think they'll taste like potatoes and > pasta? I can't imagine my taste buds believing that. I love > cauliflower and despise zucchini. > I saw a segment on the Today Show yesterday morning. They're standing outside of Rockefeller Center in NYC and a chef is making stir-fried rice using "riced" cauliflower in place of actual rice. I've definitely heard of using cauliflower as a sub for potatoes if you're low carbing. And I do love cauliflower. But no way does it taste like potatoes. And sorry, but I doubt riced cauliflower will have the same texture as rice. I could be wrong. <shrug> Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she did with cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said bake it for 30 minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. Okay... Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the flavours of whatever you add to it. Jill |
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On 7/12/2017 9:26 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 06:18:50p, jmcquown told us... > >> On 7/12/2017 8:58 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 03:52:19p, jmcquown told us... >>> >>>> On 7/12/2017 1:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>>> On 7/12/2017 12:09 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>>>>> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 09:01:06a, jmcquown told us... >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/12/2017 11:33 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mostly, humans will be eating synthesized foods made from >>>>>>>>> algae >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can guarantee you, I will never be eating algae products. >>>>>>> I don't eat tofu, never will. And there will never be a time >>>>>>> in my life when I eat food that comes out of a 3-D printer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jill >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just think, Jill, if you had a 3-D printer for food, you could >>>>>> probably eliminate almost every appliance in your kitchen. >>>>>> :-))) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No kitchen required. Just a plate and printer. I had green >>>>> food yesterday, I'll have the red today. For dessert, a blob >>>>> of yellow please. Yeah, this is going to be slick in the >>>>> future. Dinner parties will be like finger painting. >>>> >>>> But you'll need blue food combined with yellow to make green >>>> food. >>>> ![]() >>>> >>>> Jill >>>> >>> >>> True that! >>> >> Just imagine the cost of the "ink" to make these 3-D foods! You >> might not need a kitchen but you might need to take out a loan to >> pay for whatever passes for ink cartridges. LOL >> >>> I've recently been seeing commercials for mashed potatoes and >>> riced potatoes made from cauliflower, and pasta made from >>> zucchini. Do you suppose they think you'll think they'll taste >>> like potatoes and pasta? I can't imagine my taste buds believing >>> that. I love cauliflower and despise zucchini. >>> >> I saw a segment on the Today Show yesterday morning. They're >> standing outside of Rockefeller Center in NYC and a chef is making >> stir-fried rice using "riced" cauliflower in place of actual rice. >> >> I've definitely heard of using cauliflower as a sub for potatoes >> if you're low carbing. And I do love cauliflower. But no way >> does it taste like potatoes. And sorry, but I doubt riced >> cauliflower will have the same texture as rice. I could be wrong. >> <shrug> >> >> Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she >> did with cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said bake >> it for 30 minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. >> Okay... >> >> Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the >> flavours of whatever you add to it. >> >> Jill >> > > They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want cauliflower, > I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, or roasted. I > read somewhere on the Internet for making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! > Oh, the chef on the Today Show made cauliflower hummus, too! LOL It's apparently a trendy vegetable. ![]() Jill |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 21:34:10 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 7/12/2017 9:26 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 06:18:50p, jmcquown told us... >> >>> I saw a segment on the Today Show yesterday morning. They're >>> standing outside of Rockefeller Center in NYC and a chef is making >>> stir-fried rice using "riced" cauliflower in place of actual rice. >>> >>> I've definitely heard of using cauliflower as a sub for potatoes >>> if you're low carbing. And I do love cauliflower. But no way >>> does it taste like potatoes. And sorry, but I doubt riced >>> cauliflower will have the same texture as rice. I could be wrong. >>> <shrug> >>> >>> Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she >>> did with cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said bake >>> it for 30 minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. >>> Okay... >>> >>> Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the >>> flavours of whatever you add to it. >>> >> They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want cauliflower, >> I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, or roasted. I >> read somewhere on the Internet for making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! >> >Oh, the chef on the Today Show made cauliflower hummus, too! LOL It's >apparently a trendy vegetable. ![]() I wonder why, in these days of emphasis on health. The colour of cauliflower doesn't suggest it's such a healthy vegetable. |
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On 7/12/2017 10:11 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 06:34:10p, jmcquown told us... > >> On 7/12/2017 9:26 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>> >>> They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want >>> cauliflower, I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, >>> or roasted. I read somewhere on the Internet for making >>> cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! >>> >> Oh, the chef on the Today Show made cauliflower hummus, too! LOL >> It's apparently a trendy vegetable. ![]() >> >> Jill > > Oh, goodie, more for them! :-))) > I don't like hummus anyway. Love chick peas, they're great in certain spicy soups. Hummus, ho hum. Love sesame seeds. But mashed together with chick peas (aka garbanzo beans) to make some sort of dip, no thanks. Making hummas with cauliflower (she included a can of chick peas) doesn't make it any more interesting. I guess we're not hoity toity enough to appreciate such things. Jill |
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On 7/12/2017 10:58 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 07:44:29p, jmcquown told us... > >> On 7/12/2017 10:11 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 06:34:10p, jmcquown told us... >>> >>>> On 7/12/2017 9:26 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>>>> >>>>> They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want >>>>> cauliflower, I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly >>>>> steamed, or roasted. I read somewhere on the Internet for >>>>> making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! >>>>> >>>> Oh, the chef on the Today Show made cauliflower hummus, too! LOL >>>> It's apparently a trendy vegetable. ![]() >>>> >>>> Jill >>> >>> Oh, goodie, more for them! :-))) >>> >> I don't like hummus anyway. Love chick peas, they're great in >> certain spicy soups. Hummus, ho hum. Love sesame seeds. But >> mashed together with chick peas (aka garbanzo beans) to make some >> sort of dip, no thanks. >> >> Making hummas with cauliflower (she included a can of chick peas) >> doesn't make it any more interesting. I guess we're not hoity >> toity enough to appreciate such things. >> >> Jill >> > > I really do like hummus, especially what I make at home, which is > often roasted garlic or roasted red pepper, served along with pita > chips or vegetables. Last summer I had a small patio party and, > among quite a few other things to eat, I made three types of hummus. > All the hummus was gone before anything else. Obviously some people > simply don't like it, and I understand that. > > My basic hummus is made with chickpeas, tahini, olive oil, and lemon > juice. Then I add other flavorings. > You may have my share! ![]() Jill |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news ![]() > I've definitely heard of using cauliflower as a sub for potatoes if you're > low carbing. And I do love cauliflower. But no way does it taste like > potatoes. And sorry, but I doubt riced cauliflower will have the same > texture as rice. I could be wrong. <shrug> > > Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she did with > cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said bake it for 30 > minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. Okay... > > Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the flavours > of whatever you add to it. > > Jill Yes it is versatile and for people who low carb for medical reasons, it's not about something having exactly the same taste or texture like the original (potatoes versus cauliflower for instance) but about acceptable substitutions, and it makes an acceptable good tasting substitute for a lot of things. Cheri |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want cauliflower, > I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, or roasted. I > read somewhere on the Internet for making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! Have you tried it? I haven't and am curious, but I definitely like zucchini hummus so I might try that. Cheri |
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On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:26:10 PM UTC-4, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want cauliflower, > I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, or roasted. I > read somewhere on the Internet for making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! There's a Syrian deli here that makes a tabouli-type salad with roasted cauliflower chopped pretty small. I don't know if it's traditional, but it's delicious. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 10:44:36 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> I don't like hummus anyway. Love chick peas, they're great in certain > spicy soups. Hummus, ho hum. Love sesame seeds. But mashed together > with chick peas (aka garbanzo beans) to make some sort of dip, no thanks. It's cold, and you dip cold food into it. Of course you don't like it. It doesn't take Carnac the Magnificent to predict that. I prefer my hummus a little on the chunky side. Pureed smooth, it is a little boring. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 7/12/2017 9:18 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she did > with cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said bake it for 30 > minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. Okay... > > Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the flavours > of whatever you add to it. I can't tell you how many times I've heard how delicious cauliflower rice is. I'd try it if someone put it in front of me, if nothing else I like cauliflower. nancy |
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On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:55:31 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > > > They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want cauliflower, > > I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, or roasted. I > > read somewhere on the Internet for making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! > > Have you tried it? I haven't and am curious, but I definitely like zucchini > hummus so I might try that. > > Cheri I went to the farmer's market yesterday and found some "hummus" made with breadfruit instead of chickpeas. It was pretty good. I also bought some kulolo - a pudding made with taro, coconut, and sugar. The babies love stuff made with taro. It's interesting. |
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"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...
On 7/12/2017 9:18 PM, jmcquown wrote: > Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she did with > cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said bake it for 30 > minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. Okay... > > Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the flavours > of whatever you add to it. I can't tell you how many times I've heard how delicious cauliflower rice is. I'd try it if someone put it in front of me, if nothing else I like cauliflower. nancy == I don't but D loves cauliflower rice. I put it through a fine slicer and it breaks up into 'rice'. I cook it in the MW for 9 minutes. No water. The reason I don't put it through a 'grater' is that the 'rice' gets too small and it goes mushy when cooked. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 06:37:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:55:31 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: >> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >> >> > They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want cauliflower, >> > I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, or roasted. I >> > read somewhere on the Internet for making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! >> >> Have you tried it? I haven't and am curious, but I definitely like zucchini >> hummus so I might try that. >> >> Cheri > >I went to the farmer's market yesterday and found some "hummus" made with breadfruit instead of chickpeas. It was pretty good. I also bought some kulolo - a pudding made with taro, coconut, and sugar. The babies love stuff made with taro. It's interesting. Babies mainly like uninteresting food. |
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On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 10:32:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 06:37:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com> > wrote: > > >On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:55:31 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: > >> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > >> > >> > They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want cauliflower, > >> > I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, or roasted. I > >> > read somewhere on the Internet for making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! > >> > >> Have you tried it? I haven't and am curious, but I definitely like zucchini > >> hummus so I might try that. > >> > >> Cheri > > > >I went to the farmer's market yesterday and found some "hummus" made with breadfruit instead of chickpeas. It was pretty good. I also bought some kulolo - a pudding made with taro, coconut, and sugar. The babies love stuff made with taro. It's interesting. > > Babies mainly like uninteresting food. My guess is that all babies like poi. They somehow sense that it's good to eat. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1482315/ |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 10:32:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 06:37:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >> >On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:55:31 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: >> >> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >> >> >> >> > They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want cauliflower, >> >> > I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, or roasted. I >> >> > read somewhere on the Internet for making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! >> >> >> >> Have you tried it? I haven't and am curious, but I definitely like zucchini >> >> hummus so I might try that. >> >> >> >> Cheri >> > >> >I went to the farmer's market yesterday and found some "hummus" made with breadfruit instead of chickpeas. It was pretty good. I also bought some kulolo - a pudding made with taro, coconut, and sugar. The babies love stuff made with taro. It's interesting. >> >> Babies mainly like uninteresting food. > >My guess is that all babies like poi. They somehow sense that it's good to eat. > >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1482315/ I don't know what poi is but I'll take your word for it and assume that it tastes a lot better than it sounds. |
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On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 11:24:09 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi10ahoo.com> > wrote: > > >On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 10:32:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > >> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 06:37:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:55:31 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: > >> >> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > >> >> > >> >> > They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want cauliflower, > >> >> > I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, or roasted. I > >> >> > read somewhere on the Internet for making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! > >> >> > >> >> Have you tried it? I haven't and am curious, but I definitely like zucchini > >> >> hummus so I might try that. > >> >> > >> >> Cheri > >> > > >> >I went to the farmer's market yesterday and found some "hummus" made with breadfruit instead of chickpeas. It was pretty good. I also bought some kulolo - a pudding made with taro, coconut, and sugar. The babies love stuff made with taro. It's interesting. > >> > >> Babies mainly like uninteresting food. > > > >My guess is that all babies like poi. They somehow sense that it's good to eat. > > > >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1482315/ > > I don't know what poi is but I'll take your word for it and assume > that it tastes a lot better than it sounds. It probably does not. Most adults that have never tasted poi will have a fairly negative reaction. After it's been fermented for a couple of days, it has a yogurt-like tangy taste. That's the stuff popular with the older generation. Babies take naturally to poi. That's what's interesting about it. Taro that has been pounded and not thinned down with water is called "paiai." Poi is paiai with water added. My guess is that paiai is going to be popular with the younger generation because poi will be associated with old folks and tourists. |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
... > "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... > > On 7/12/2017 9:18 PM, jmcquown wrote: > >> Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she did >> with cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said bake it for 30 >> minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. Okay... >> >> Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the flavours >> of whatever you add to it. > > I can't tell you how many times I've heard how delicious cauliflower > rice is. I'd try it if someone put it in front of me, if nothing else > I like cauliflower. > > nancy > > == > > I don't but D loves cauliflower rice. I put it through a fine slicer and > it breaks up into 'rice'. I cook it in the MW for 9 minutes. No water. > > The reason I don't put it through a 'grater' is that the 'rice' gets too > small and it goes mushy when cooked. I sometimes rice it and use it for breakfast with a bit of cream, sweetener, and cinnamon. I like it, but I'm sure some wouldn't. Cheri |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.44... > On Wed 12 Jul 2017 10:52:24p, Cheri told us... > >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> news ![]() >>> I've definitely heard of using cauliflower as a sub for potatoes >>> if you're low carbing. And I do love cauliflower. But no way >>> does it taste like potatoes. And sorry, but I doubt riced >>> cauliflower will have the same texture as rice. I could be >>> wrong. <shrug> >>> >>> Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she >>> did with cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said >>> bake it for 30 minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. >>> Okay... >>> >>> Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the >>> flavours of whatever you add to it. >>> >>> Jill >> >> >> Yes it is versatile and for people who low carb for medical >> reasons, it's not about something having exactly the same taste or >> texture like the original (potatoes versus cauliflower for >> instance) but about acceptable substitutions, and it makes an >> acceptable good tasting substitute for a lot of things. >> >> Cheri >> >> > > I like cauliflower and I like potatoes. What I don't like is when a > company or individual makes something imitating something else. A > prime example is when companies began making imitation crab meat, > regardless if they called it "Krab". The two don't taste even > remotely the same. The same is true with cauliflower and potatoes. > Some years ago, around Thanksgiving, recipes were floating around to > make "mashed potatoes" using cauliflower. Fool that I was, I tried > it, but thought it was disgusting, and bad enough that I had to > quickly cook and mash some potatoes to complete our meal. No one > wanted the mashed cauliflower. I am now wary of anything purported > to be something else, for whatever reason. They actually called them mashed potatoes? I've only ever heard them called fauxtatoes, or mashed cauliflower. I like it mashed with cream cheese, milk, butter etc. To me it's as good but certainly not the same. I also like imitation crab, but it's pretty carby so I don't buy it often. Cheri |
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Am Freitag, 14. Juli 2017 00:42:57 UTC+2 schrieb Wayne Boatwright:
> On Wed 12 Jul 2017 10:54:41p, Cheri told us... > > > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > > > >> They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want > >> cauliflower, I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, > >> or roasted. I read somewhere on the Internet for making > >> cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! I'm completely with you on this. > > Have you tried it? I haven't and am curious, but I definitely like > > zucchini hummus so I might try that. > No, and I won't. Me neither. > I detest zucchini in any form. We love zucchini in any other form... Of course, they have to be fresh, i.e. "squeaky" and juicy with sticky juice. Otherwise or if over-fertilised they spoil easily and taste bitter. The right stuff stays fresh for weeks at room temperature - and I'm talking about the small ones. The big ones stay much longer, even when the skin's still edible. Ratatouille With bechamel and cheese Gratin dauphinois with less cream or milk and some grated zucchini instead Fricot (zucchini and chick peas are the main ingredients here) Filled with meat or whatever you like Fried Korean style - with garlic, hot peppers, roasted sesame seed oil, a little sugar, soy sauce and a little vinegar to taste Coated and fried Grilled - sliced lengthwise and brushed with a little olive oil .... Bye, Sanne. |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> Everyone has their pesonal preferences and tolerances, and I'll stick > by mine. I don't care what anyone else eats. Same here. Cheri |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44... On Wed 12 Jul 2017 10:54:41p, Cheri told us... > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > >> They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want >> cauliflower, I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly steamed, >> or roasted. I read somewhere on the Internet for making >> cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! > > Have you tried it? I haven't and am curious, but I definitely like > zucchini hummus so I might try that. > > Cheri > > No, and I won't. I detest zucchini in any form. Wayne Boatwright == D likes them cooked one way ... I spiralise them so they look like spaghetti, add spiralised carrot, chopped leeks and diced mushrooms. I use them as a side dish. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44... On Thu 13 Jul 2017 05:13:11a, Nancy Young told us... > On 7/12/2017 9:18 PM, jmcquown wrote: > >> Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she >> did with cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said >> bake it for 30 minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. >> Okay... >> >> Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the >> flavours of whatever you add to it. > > I can't tell you how many times I've heard how delicious > cauliflower rice is. I'd try it if someone put it in front of me, > if nothing else I like cauliflower. > > nancy > Be wary. Be very wavy. I love cauliflower, but it has a very distinct flavor. Rice it is not. Wayne Boatwright === I don't like it at all, but D loves it with a sauce or mixed with mushrooms and onions and served as a veg with meat. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Cheri" wrote in message news
![]() "Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... > > On 7/12/2017 9:18 PM, jmcquown wrote: > >> Of course the hosts all ooohed and ahhhhed over it everything she did >> with cauliflower. She even riced it with mushrooms, said bake it for 30 >> minutes, then used it as a sub for beef in tacos. Okay... >> >> Fortunately, cauliflower is pretty bland so it does take on the flavours >> of whatever you add to it. > > I can't tell you how many times I've heard how delicious cauliflower > rice is. I'd try it if someone put it in front of me, if nothing else > I like cauliflower. > > nancy > > == > > I don't but D loves cauliflower rice. I put it through a fine slicer and > it breaks up into 'rice'. I cook it in the MW for 9 minutes. No water. > > The reason I don't put it through a 'grater' is that the 'rice' gets too > small and it goes mushy when cooked. I sometimes rice it and use it for breakfast with a bit of cream, sweetener, and cinnamon. I like it, but I'm sure some wouldn't. Cheri === You had me at the cream but the cinnamon ... but you knew that ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
.45... On Fri 14 Jul 2017 01:27:24a, Ophelia told us... > "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message > 9.44... > > On Wed 12 Jul 2017 10:54:41p, Cheri told us... > >> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >> >>> They can keep their pseudo "rice" and "beef". If I want >>> cauliflower, I want cauliflower. I like it raw, lightly >>> steamed, or roasted. I read somewhere on the Internet for >>> making cauliflower hummus. Ugh!!! >> >> Have you tried it? I haven't and am curious, but I definitely >> like zucchini hummus so I might try that. >> >> Cheri >> >> > > No, and I won't. I detest zucchini in any form. > > > Wayne Boatwright > > == > > D likes them cooked one way ... I spiralise them so they look > like spaghetti, add spiralised carrot, chopped leeks and diced > mushrooms. I use them as a side dish. > > I tried the spiralised zucchini once, but it's not for me. If you combined all he other ingredients I'd like the combination. Wayne Boatwright == Try it? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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