Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-07-16 10:32 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 7/16/2017 5:55 AM, Janet wrote:
> >> This group has had years of watching John's mental illness
> spiralling
> > > down. The decline and fall of Kili,Blake, Janet W, and others
> > > didn't affect mine or the life of anyone else here; but many of
> > > us distant, helpless bystanders were concerned to witness the
> > > inevitable.
> > >
> >> Janet UK.
> >
> > Absolutely. We don't wish he'd fail. We're merely trying to point
> > out some things that to many people seem fairly obvious.
>
> What can you do when you offer advice and the guy refuses to take it
> and then boasts about doing things that leave the rest of us shaking
> our heads.

How about, it's his life and he doesnt want opinionated advice but
something more legal and financially legit for the specifics he is in?

JUst because you think I shouldnt get a new (to me, used) car is no
reason for you to tell me I can't.

Some go on endlessly in this thread on how John shouldnt be getting a
house at last. It makes me wonder how many of you screwed up that you
have to warn him? It's been going on for months now.

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On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 07:33:36 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 6:53:20 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>...
>> Any chance that was an "Australian Python?" My daughter bought a baby
>> one once (without my permission). It was the size of a pencil. They only
>> grow to about 3 feet long.
>>
>> I was taking care of it once when she was off for a few days. I reached
>> my hand into the cage to change the water bowl and it bit me. Very quick
>> bite and retreat. I've caught many wild snakes before but this one was
>> the only snake bite. I knew it wasn't poisonous so I just cleaned the
>> wound and treated it.
>>
>> Luckily for "Willy," I didn't go back and kill the evil *******. hehehe
>
>Australian Python? Is that anything like my Madagascar Sky Boa I had back in the 1980's? ;-)

What's that? Sounds like a dance.

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 06:27:56 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:05:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>>I don't want to see John fail and lose all his money. He's had a
>>>difficult life...time to let him have some security.
>>
>> Not talking about you or me, but I think that some of the people who
>> give him advice, would love to see him fail.
>
>
>I think the posters that want him to fail are fairly obvious in their posts.

Yes.

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sun 16 Jul 2017 07:21:47a, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 7/16/2017 9:27 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:05:23 -0400, Gary >
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I don't want to see John fail and lose all his money. He's had
>>>>> a difficult life...time to let him have some security.
>>>>
>>>> Not talking about you or me, but I think that some of the people
>>>> who give him advice, would love to see him fail.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the posters that want him to fail are fairly obvious in
>>> their posts.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> I don't want him to fail. I just think he's making a huge mistake
>> putting a ton of money into a house he doesn't own yet. I rented
>> a house when I was in my 20's and I had to pay to repair things
>> (plumber, etc.) BUT... I presented him with the bills and he
>> reimbursed me. It was in writing, in the lease agreement. It
>> sounds like John is being taken for a ride. I personally don't
>> want to see that happen. We're just trying to warn him of the
>> pitfalls. He doesn't own the house. Yet.
>> Don't put a bunch of money into someone elses' property!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
>It's pretty clear that he doesn't really want anyone's help from this
>group.

That never stops this group.

On 2017-07-16 1:04 PM, cshenk wrote:

>> Can't you get a new quote? Or else, never move.
>
> It may be asbestos siding.
>

I doubt it. They haven't used asbestos siding since about 1950 and her
house doesn't look that old.

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 13:35:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-07-16 10:32 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/16/2017 5:55 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> This group has had years of watching John's mental illness spiralling
>>> down. The decline and fall of Kili,Blake, Janet W, and others didn't
>>> affect mine or the life of anyone else here; but many of us distant,
>>> helpless bystanders were concerned to witness the inevitable.
>>>
>>> Janet UK.
>>
>> Absolutely. We don't wish he'd fail. We're merely trying to point out
>> some things that to many people seem fairly obvious.
>
>What can you do when you offer advice and the guy refuses to take it and
>then boasts about doing things that leave the rest of us shaking our heads.

Move on?

On 2017-07-16 3:13 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>

>> What can you do when you offer advice and the guy refuses to take it
>> and then boasts about doing things that leave the rest of us shaking
>> our heads.
>
> How about, it's his life and he doesnt want opinionated advice but
> something more legal and financially legit for the specifics he is in?
>
> JUst because you think I shouldnt get a new (to me, used) car is no
> reason for you to tell me I can't.
>
> Some go on endlessly in this thread on how John shouldnt be getting a
> house at last. It makes me wonder how many of you screwed up that you
> have to warn him? It's been going on for months now.
>

He has been given good advice. He has ignored it and scorned it. Don't
forget that the man who scorns money and capitalism was the one bragging
about how he had inherited a whack of enough money to buy the house he
was already living in.

On 7/16/2017 2:29 PM, cshenk wrote:
> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
>>>
>>> It may be asbestos siding.
>>
>> That can be changed, but you need a company qualified to handle
>> asbestos which probably rules out her local odd job guy.
>
> THat was my best guess. I'm not sure if the laws are the same in all
> places on how that can be handled.
>

It was such that you could remove it yourself, bag it, take it to a
landfill. No special permits. Local laws vary though.

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:16:31 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 9:38:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> ...
>> > Having a professional house inspection costs very little (~$300)
>> ...
>>
>> OK Prick! Mine cost $750, you got that? I got the sewer lateral
>> line, termite inspection and the whole shebang! Don't be a PRICK and
>> pretend you KNOW EVERYTHING because YOU DON'T!!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>John, his was 20+ years ago. Yes, 750$ is pretty normal.

WTF would you know, you've always been a renter.
Not normal, that's about twice the present cost of a pre-sale
residense inspection.
My termite inspection was separate.
Well was separate
Septic was separate
Survey was separate
Title search and title insurance was separate.
House inspectors only check that the structure and its mechanicals are
to code and report malfunctioning systems...
they do no repairs and be wary if they recommend a repair person, then
they are dishonest, just drumming up business for their contractor
relative. It takes about a half hour to inspect a house, than an hour
inputting comments into computer software that prints out the report
that's inserted into a binder, looks very professional but in
actuality is mostly for show.
House inspections don't check for termites, for termites use Terminex
or some similar pest control company that will periodically
reinspect/treat if one buys that service.
My real estate attorney arranged for all those procedures with
companies he's used for many years known to be reputable and I was
presented with reports and bills prior to closing.

I seriously doubt John had any inspection done and he has no attorney
or he'd not be permitted to resolve any issues prior to closing... I
wouldn't believe John if his typing fingers were notarized... I still
don't believe he's attempting to buy the house in the picture he
posted. I don't believe there is any inheritance, all he's told us
and his outbursts are all part of his mental illness, very typical of
paranoid schizophrenics, megalomaniacs, and bipolars. A year from now
John will still be renting a room from the cheap Chinaman, or
inhabiting a padded cell at a state mental institution.

I don't mind being called a PRICK, a lot of good looking wimmens
called me their BIG PRICK. However John is a tiny insignificant nut
case. LOL-LOL

On 7/16/2017 3:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> The trouble is, most posters have been complicit in prpetuating a
> thread that is useless and goes nowhere. Ehough is enough.

You should probably killfile the subject line.

nancy

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:38:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sun 16 Jul 2017 11:53:42a, Ophelia told us...
>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On 7/16/2017 10:21 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It sounds like John is being taken for a ride. I personally
>>> don't want to see that happen. We're just trying to warn him of
>>> the pitfalls. He doesn't own the house. Yet. Don't put a bunch
>>> of money into someone elses' property!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> We'll see in a few weeks. There are honorable people that would
>> carry on but there are scoundrels that will screw the buyer.
>> Problem is, you can't tell them apart until it is too late.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> The problem is that there is no one here that can help, no matter
>> how much they would like to.
>>
>>
>>
>
>That's my point. The effort from here is usless. If anything, he
>heeds professional Imental) healp).

And maybe he can help you type.

Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-07-16 1:04 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> > > Can't you get a new quote? Or else, never move.
> >
> > It may be asbestos siding.
> >
>
> I doubt it. They haven't used asbestos siding since about 1950 and
> her house doesn't look that old.

http://www.asbestossiding.org/

Try 1980

--

Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-07-16 3:13 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
>
> > > What can you do when you offer advice and the guy refuses to take
> > > it and then boasts about doing things that leave the rest of us
> > > shaking our heads.
> >
> > How about, it's his life and he doesnt want opinionated advice but
> > something more legal and financially legit for the specifics he is
> > in?
> >
> > JUst because you think I shouldnt get a new (to me, used) car is no
> > reason for you to tell me I can't.
> >
> > Some go on endlessly in this thread on how John shouldnt be getting
> > a house at last. It makes me wonder how many of you screwed up that
> > you have to warn him? It's been going on for months now.
> >
>
> He has been given good advice. He has ignored it and scorned it.
> Don't forget that the man who scorns money and capitalism was the one
> bragging about how he had inherited a whack of enough money to buy
> the house he was already living in.

In other words, he ignored your advice? Picking and reading, he's been
'told what to do' entirely too many times so tuned you all out, well
intended or not on your ends.

--

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:53:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/16/2017 10:57 AM, wrote:
>
>> Fitting drywall around the mechanicals is very easy, it's typically a
>> DIY project... it's the spackling that reqires expertise...
>> contractors first bring in the sheetrock team, and later the spackler.
>> Most any idiot can sheetrock but spackling is an art. Sheetrock
>> installation requires two people but spacklers work alone.
>>
>
>Its a garage. DIY of the joints would be good enough. Watch a couple
>of episodes of This Old House and give it a go.

Unless it's to be used as living space I'd not bother sheetrocking,
but if sheetrocked for living space I'd want a neat spackling job. A
one car garage should cost maybe $500 for sheetrock and spackling,
probably a little less. Drive over to where new tract homes are being
built and ask one of the workers to direct you to the sheetrock guy.
He'd know the spackler and those guys are always looking for small
moonlighting jobs for cash pay... they all have a stash of sheetrock
and spackle they've glommed from the job. Those guys work fast,
they'd finish that garage in under six hours. That's how I got 12" of
insulation added to my attic for $300, took a guy and his helper three
hours... lowered my heating and A/C electric bill by more than $300
the first year. A finished garage should be insulated too, and have
an electrition add a few recepticles prior. May even want a stall
shower and toilet added, a sink too, then can be rented as an
efficiency apt. The attic area could be a sleeping loft and storage
area... would bring good rent... before a year would pay for the
conversion and show good profit. Only difficulty is finding a decent
tenant... not some unemployed conniving sicko like John! LOL-LOL
..

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:24:42 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:53:11 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 7/16/2017 10:57 AM, wrote:
>>
>> > Fitting drywall around the mechanicals is very easy, it's typically a
>> > DIY project... it's the spackling that reqires expertise...
>> > contractors first bring in the sheetrock team, and later the spackler.
>> > Most any idiot can sheetrock but spackling is an art. Sheetrock
>> > installation requires two people but spacklers work alone.
>> >
>>
>> Its a garage. DIY of the joints would be good enough. Watch a couple
>> of episodes of This Old House and give it a go.
>
>I like PAYING my retired master carpenter friend Tim do it FOR ME!

More proof you're an incomptant lazy *******.

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:09:53 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 05:20:29 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 3:51:14 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 19:34:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> . ..
>> >> >>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:21:27 -0400, jmcquown
>> > >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>Maybe in Canada. In the US, until the actual "closing",
>> anyone can back >> >>>>out.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Without penalty, really? What's the meaning of the sale
>> contract they >> >>> signed then?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>They can come up with a reason. Reason people kept backing out
>> on this >> >>house
>> >> >>was the siding. Or so they claimed. This kind of siding had a
>> recall. We >> >>were told that ours was fine and the recall didn't
>> apply. But after buying >> >>the house, I think the real reason was
>> that it is flat out not up to code >> >>and getting it up to code
>> would cost a fortune. We had a guy who said he >> >>would do it for
>> $2,000 so we hired him only to have him walk away saying >> >>that
>> he'd been wrong and couldn't do the job for any price. We based what
>> >> >>we >> >>paid for the house on that. Now we are stuck with a
>> house that likely will >> >>never be up to code.
>> >> >
>> >> > Can't you get a new quote? Or else, never move.
>> >>
>> >> A quote means nothing. I haven't got the money for anything like
>> this. That >> $2,000 that we once had is long gone. House has been
>> riddled with plumbing >> and electrical problems. Got those fixed.
>> New roof. Had the exterior >> painted. Replaced toilets and
>> appliances. >>
>> >> I have had many a handyman type person over here to do various
>> things. When >> I mentioned what the specific problem was, they'd
>> look around, shake their >> heads and admit that it would take a
>> whole lot of work. Or weren't even sure >> they could do it. In a
>> nutshell, every part of the garage (and I use that >> term loosely as
>> it isn't big enough to park a car in) needs to be fully >> unclosed
>> with drywall. And because of the stupid way the remodeling of this >>
>> house was done, this would mean cutting many small and tiny pieces of
>> the >> stuff and fitting it around pipes, vents and other stuff. But
>> some other >> things would have to be done in case something went
>> wrong and whatever was >> enclosed in there needed to be accessed.
>> Like a hatch or hatches or >> something.
>> >
>> > That doesn't mean it couldn't be done "for any price". I
>> > conjecture that the contractor simply didn't want to deal with it.
>> > Drywall is not difficult. It might be expensive to have a
>> > professional fiddle with this job, but it doesn't sound like it
>> > cannot be done.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Fitting drywall around the mechanicals is very easy, it's typically a
>> DIY project... it's the spackling that reqires expertise...
>> contractors first bring in the sheetrock team, and later the spackler.
>> Most any idiot can sheetrock but spackling is an art. Sheetrock
>> installation requires two people but spacklers work alone.
>
>Spackling isn't hard at all but yes, takes time.

You think it's easy try spackling the crack of your fat ass. LOL

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:16:31 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 9:38:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >> ...
> >> > Having a professional house inspection costs very little (~$300)
> >> ...
> >>
> >> OK Prick! Mine cost $750, you got that? I got the sewer lateral
> >> line, termite inspection and the whole shebang! Don't be a PRICK
> and >> pretend you KNOW EVERYTHING because YOU DON'T!!
> >>
> >> John Kuthe...
> >
> > John, his was 20+ years ago. Yes, 750$ is pretty normal.
>
> WTF would you know, you've always been a renter.

Lay off the Crystal Palace Sheldon.

Yp yourself said it was 20+ years ago. It's now more and bundles some
things like termite and survey.

Rest of your drivel deleted




--

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:44:21 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:24:42 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:53:11 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2017 10:57 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>> > Fitting drywall around the mechanicals is very easy, it's typically a
>>> > DIY project... it's the spackling that reqires expertise...
>>> > contractors first bring in the sheetrock team, and later the spackler.
>>> > Most any idiot can sheetrock but spackling is an art. Sheetrock
>>> > installation requires two people but spacklers work alone.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Its a garage. DIY of the joints would be good enough. Watch a couple
>>> of episodes of This Old House and give it a go.
>>
>>I like PAYING my retired master carpenter friend Tim do it FOR ME!
>
>More proof you're an incomptant lazy *******.

But maybe he's great at spelling.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:09:53 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 05:20:29 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 3:51:14 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 19:34:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> >> . ..
> >> >> >>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:21:27 -0400, jmcquown
> >> > >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>Maybe in Canada. In the US, until the actual "closing",
> >> anyone can back >> >>>>out.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Without penalty, really? What's the meaning of the sale
> >> contract they >> >>> signed then?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>They can come up with a reason. Reason people kept backing out
> >> on this >> >>house
> >> >> >>was the siding. Or so they claimed. This kind of siding had a
> >> recall. We >> >>were told that ours was fine and the recall didn't
> >> apply. But after buying >> >>the house, I think the real reason was
> >> that it is flat out not up to code >> >>and getting it up to code
> >> would cost a fortune. We had a guy who said he >> >>would do it for
> >> $2,000 so we hired him only to have him walk away saying >> >>that
> >> he'd been wrong and couldn't do the job for any price. We based
> what >> >> >>we >> >>paid for the house on that. Now we are stuck
> with a >> house that likely will >> >>never be up to code.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can't you get a new quote? Or else, never move.
> >> >>
> >> >> A quote means nothing. I haven't got the money for anything like
> >> this. That >> $2,000 that we once had is long gone. House has been
> >> riddled with plumbing >> and electrical problems. Got those fixed.
> >> New roof. Had the exterior >> painted. Replaced toilets and
> >> appliances. >>
> >> >> I have had many a handyman type person over here to do various
> >> things. When >> I mentioned what the specific problem was, they'd
> >> look around, shake their >> heads and admit that it would take a
> >> whole lot of work. Or weren't even sure >> they could do it. In a
> >> nutshell, every part of the garage (and I use that >> term loosely
> as >> it isn't big enough to park a car in) needs to be fully >>
> unclosed >> with drywall. And because of the stupid way the
> remodeling of this >> >> house was done, this would mean cutting many
> small and tiny pieces of >> the >> stuff and fitting it around pipes,
> vents and other stuff. But >> some other >> things would have to be
> done in case something went >> wrong and whatever was >> enclosed in
> there needed to be accessed. >> Like a hatch or hatches or >>
> something. >> >
> >> > That doesn't mean it couldn't be done "for any price". I
> >> > conjecture that the contractor simply didn't want to deal with
> it. >> > Drywall is not difficult. It might be expensive to have a
> >> > professional fiddle with this job, but it doesn't sound like it
> >> > cannot be done.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> Fitting drywall around the mechanicals is very easy, it's
> typically a >> DIY project... it's the spackling that reqires
> expertise... >> contractors first bring in the sheetrock team, and
> later the spackler. >> Most any idiot can sheetrock but spackling is
> an art. Sheetrock >> installation requires two people but spacklers
> work alone.
> >
> > Spackling isn't hard at all but yes, takes time.
>
> You think it's easy try spackling the crack of your fat ass. LOL

Sober up Sheldon

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> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:53:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 7/16/2017 10:57 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> Fitting drywall around the mechanicals is very easy, it's typically a
>>> DIY project... it's the spackling that reqires expertise...
>>> contractors first bring in the sheetrock team, and later the spackler.
>>> Most any idiot can sheetrock but spackling is an art. Sheetrock
>>> installation requires two people but spacklers work alone.
>>>
>>
>>Its a garage. DIY of the joints would be good enough. Watch a couple
>>of episodes of This Old House and give it a go.
>
> Unless it's to be used as living space I'd not bother sheetrocking,
> but if sheetrocked for living space I'd want a neat spackling job. A
> one car garage should cost maybe $500 for sheetrock and spackling,
> probably a little less. Drive over to where new tract homes are being
> built and ask one of the workers to direct you to the sheetrock guy.
> He'd know the spackler and those guys are always looking for small
> moonlighting jobs for cash pay... they all have a stash of sheetrock
> and spackle they've glommed from the job. Those guys work fast,
> they'd finish that garage in under six hours. That's how I got 12" of
> insulation added to my attic for $300, took a guy and his helper three
> hours... lowered my heating and A/C electric bill by more than $300
> the first year. A finished garage should be insulated too, and have
> an electrition add a few recepticles prior. May even want a stall
> shower and toilet added, a sink too, then can be rented as an
> efficiency apt. The attic area could be a sleeping loft and storage
> area... would bring good rent... before a year would pay for the
> conversion and show good profit. Only difficulty is finding a decent
> tenant... not some unemployed conniving sicko like John! LOL-LOL

I know nothing about putting up sheetrock other than that it's heavy. I am
no good with saws or climbing ladders. I am excellent at doing spackle
though. This is something I researched many years ago when I was asked to
spackle a wall that had been put up where I used to work after a coworker
drove the forklift though it.

I can remember it now. How my boss marveled at the good job I had done. You
could not see the seams at all. And then he laughed and said that it really
didn't matter because pegboard was going up over it anyway. Sheesh.

The reason I was told that this needed to be done in the garage was to do
with fire. Was told if we had one, it could rapidly spread through the house
if this wasn't done. We did actually have a fire that started in that very
area. An electrical one. Thankfully we live very near the fire station and
they were not busy at the time. So only some melted and blackened
insulation. We did have to replace the light fixtures in the laundry room as
they were the culprit.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sun 16 Jul 2017 02:55:04a, Janet told us...
>
> > In article >,
> > says...

> >> Who really cares what John wastes his money on? If he's stupid
> >> enough to do so, then he deserves what he gets. It doesn't
> >> affect anyone else's life here.
> >
> > Yeah right. You're very smug and insular Wayne.

> Before I retired I worked in the mental health field for 11 years and
> was a licensed clinical psychologist.

Then you should be profesionally ashamed to have written about a man
with bipolar disorder

" Who really cares what John wastes his money on? If he's stupid
enough to do so, then he deserves what he gets."


Janet UK

On 2017-07-16 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:

>> It's pretty clear that he doesn't really want anyone's help from this
>> group.
>
> That never stops this group.


Like you, he just wants to be heard. If it were not for his bragging,
we would never have heard about him inheriting enough money to buy the
place.

In article >, cshenk1
@cox.net says...
>
> John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 11:40:50 AM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > ...
> > >
> > > It's pretty clear that he doesn't really want anyone's help from
> > > this group.
> > ...
> >
> > Too many EGOTISTICAL PRICKS in the Usenet Newsgroup! Symptom of THE
> > WORLD, actually!!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> Hi John, how about a milder person. There is
> also NOTHING wrong in having roommates who pay you their share and you
> pay the bill (you don't even have to be an owner for that one).

They weren't contributing their share of any repairs; that was their
RENT , which should have been paid to the owner landlord.
>
> I do read 'hit and miss' here

Obviously, as you've missed the very point above.

Janet UK

On 2017-07-16 4:02 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 2017-07-16 3:13 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>
>>>> What can you do when you offer advice and the guy refuses to take
>>>> it and then boasts about doing things that leave the rest of us
>>>> shaking our heads.
>>>
>>> How about, it's his life and he doesnt want opinionated advice but
>>> something more legal and financially legit for the specifics he is
>>> in?
>>>
>>> JUst because you think I shouldnt get a new (to me, used) car is no
>>> reason for you to tell me I can't.
>>>
>>> Some go on endlessly in this thread on how John shouldnt be getting
>>> a house at last. It makes me wonder how many of you screwed up that
>>> you have to warn him? It's been going on for months now.
>>>
>>
>> He has been given good advice. He has ignored it and scorned it.
>> Don't forget that the man who scorns money and capitalism was the one
>> bragging about how he had inherited a whack of enough money to buy
>> the house he was already living in.
>
> In other words, he ignored your advice?

I don't recall giving him any advice. I did comment on what happened
with a bipolar cousin who inherited a substantial amount of money and
blew in on a house that she ended up losing.

> Picking and reading, he's been
> 'told what to do' entirely too many times so tuned you all out, well
> intended or not on your ends.

Meanwhile, he has apparently posting about some of the idiotic things he
has done, like spending money to repair air conditioning in a house that
someone else owns.

In article >, cshenk1
@cox.net says...

> Some go on endlessly in this thread on how John shouldnt be getting a
> house at last.

????? I've not seen anybody say that even once, let alone
"endlessly".


Janet UK

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 17:42:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-07-16 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>
>>> It's pretty clear that he doesn't really want anyone's help from this
>>> group.
>>
>> That never stops this group.
>
>
>Like you, he just wants to be heard.

If I knew nobody would read this, I wouldn't write it, but that apples
to everybody.

>If it were not for his bragging, we would never have heard about him inheriting enough money to buy the
>place.

Yes, he did call it upon himself. On the other hand, everything has
been said. Multiple times. People don't know when to stop.

On 2017-07-16 6:39 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 17:42:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-07-16 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> It's pretty clear that he doesn't really want anyone's help from this
>>>> group.
>>>
>>> That never stops this group.
>>
>>
>> Like you, he just wants to be heard.
>
> If I knew nobody would read this, I wouldn't write it, but that apples
> to everybody.

Does that apple to the person whose spelling you corrected earlier, or
are you just trying to keep it food related.

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 18:55:42 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-07-16 6:39 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 17:42:38 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-07-16 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It's pretty clear that he doesn't really want anyone's help from this
>>>>> group.
>>>>
>>>> That never stops this group.
>>>
>>>
>>> Like you, he just wants to be heard.
>>
>> If I knew nobody would read this, I wouldn't write it, but that apples
>> to everybody.
>
>Does that apple to the person whose spelling you corrected earlier, or
>are you just trying to keep it food related.

You shouldn't connect my posts like that. It's embarrassing.

On 7/16/2017 1:07 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-07-16, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> Most likely he whill anyway.
>
> I'm sure glad all you folks are such great spellers. Makes me feel so
> bad (as if!) when I get called on my use of "jes" and "outta".
>
> "cans", indeed! ROFL!
>
> nb
>
The difference is you do that on purpose, nb. Typos are one thing...
and spell check isn't all that great since it keeps trying to change
notbob into something to do with boobs LOL (You know I'm teasing, right?)

Jill

On 2017-07-16 7:02 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/16/2017 1:07 PM, notbob wrote:

>> I'm sure glad all you folks are such great spellers. Makes me feel so
>> bad (as if!) when I get called on my use of "jes" and "outta".
>>
>> "cans", indeed! ROFL!
>>
>> nb
>>
> The difference is you do that on purpose, nb. Typos are one thing...
> and spell check isn't all that great since it keeps trying to change
> notbob into something to do with boobs LOL (You know I'm teasing, right?)
>

Don't tease like that Jill. Sheldon will get a semi semi semi.

On 7/16/2017 3:34 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 16 Jul 2017 10:35:38a, Dave Smith told us...
>
>> On 2017-07-16 10:32 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2017 5:55 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>> This group has had years of watching John's mental illness
>>>> spiralling
>>>> down. The decline and fall of Kili,Blake, Janet W, and others
>>>> didn't affect mine or the life of anyone else here; but many of
>>>> us distant, helpless bystanders were concerned to witness the
>>>> inevitable.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK.
>>>
>>> Absolutely. We don't wish he'd fail. We're merely trying to
>>> point out some things that to many people seem fairly obvious.
>>
>> What can you do when you offer advice and the guy refuses to take
>> it and then boasts about doing things that leave the rest of us
>> shaking our heads.
>>
>
> You can do absolutely nothing.
>
To be fair, Wayne, John is the one who initially brought it up. He was
crowing about buying this house. This is merely a follow-up to
something he started quite some time ago. Until Gary re-started the
thread it was pretty much out of sight, out of mind.

OB Food: pan fried catfish fillets

Jill

On 7/16/2017 5:52 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, cshenk1
> @cox.net says...
>
>> Some go on endlessly in this thread on how John shouldnt be getting a
>> house at last.
>
> ????? I've not seen anybody say that even once, let alone
> "endlessly".
>
>
> Janet UK
>
>
No one ever said John should not get a house. We just hate to hear him
talk about spending a bunch of money to make improvements on a house he
doesn't yet own.

Jill

On 7/16/2017 5:47 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:46:22 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> On 7/16/2017 3:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>> The trouble is, most posters have been complicit in prpetuating a
>>> thread that is useless and goes nowhere. Ehough is enough.
>>
>> You should probably killfile the subject line.
>
> He'd rather get up on his high horse and tell everyone how to post.

Believe me, once in a while I feel like doing the same thing.

And I'm sure people have wanted to tell me to shut up.

Hasn't worked yet, either way. Not in all these years.

nancy

On 7/16/2017 5:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-07-16 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>
>>> It's pretty clear that he doesn't really want anyone's help from this
>>> group.
>>
>> That never stops this group.
>
>
> Like you, he just wants to be heard. If it were not for his bragging,
> we would never have heard about him inheriting enough money to buy the
> place.
>
>
Exactly like Bruce. John sure never mentioned how great the house he
was renting a room in was before. How else would we have known about
all this?

Jill

On 7/16/2017 5:47 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-07-16 4:02 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On 2017-07-16 3:13 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> What can you do when you offer advice and the guy refuses to take
>>>>> it and then boasts about doing things that leave the rest of us
>>>>> shaking our heads.
>>>>
>>>> How about, it's his life and he doesnt want opinionated advice but
>>>> something more legal and financially legit for the specifics he is
>>>> in?
>>>>
>>>> JUst because you think I shouldnt get a new (to me, used) car is no
>>>> reason for you to tell me I can't.
>>>>
>>>> Some go on endlessly in this thread on how John shouldnt be getting
>>>> a house at last. It makes me wonder how many of you screwed up that
>>>> you have to warn him? It's been going on for months now.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He has been given good advice. He has ignored it and scorned it.
>>> Don't forget that the man who scorns money and capitalism was the one
>>> bragging about how he had inherited a whack of enough money to buy
>>> the house he was already living in.
>>
>> In other words, he ignored your advice?
>
> I don't recall giving him any advice. I did comment on what happened
> with a bipolar cousin who inherited a substantial amount of money and
> blew in on a house that she ended up losing.
>
>> Picking and reading, he's been
>> 'told what to do' entirely too many times so tuned you all out, well
>> intended or not on your ends.
>
> Meanwhile, he has apparently posting about some of the idiotic things he
> has done, like spending money to repair air conditioning in a house that
> someone else owns.
>
<sigh> Getting ready to pay for the installation of USA Made window
blinds, too. Done by a friend of a friend or some such. Odd how he
dislikes cheap Chinese whatever but he is willing to pay for cheap
labor. I wonder how the plans for fitting out the previously described
falling apart garage for electric cars is going? (I really don't want
to know.) His claims are just attention getters. And yes, I got sucked
into it, too.

Jill

On 7/16/2017 1:21 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:04:18 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 19:34:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:21:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe in Canada. In the US, until the actual "closing", anyone
>>>>>> can back out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without penalty, really? What's the meaning of the sale contract
>>> they >> signed then?
>>>>
>>>> They can come up with a reason. Reason people kept backing out on
>>>> this house was the siding. Or so they claimed. This kind of siding
>>>> had a recall. We were told that ours was fine and the recall didn't
>>>> apply. But after buying the house, I think the real reason was that
>>>> it is flat out not up to code and getting it up to code would cost
>>>> a fortune. We had a guy who said he would do it for $2,000 so we
>>>> hired him only to have him walk away saying that he'd been wrong
>>>> and couldn't do the job for any price. We based what we paid for
>>>> the house on that. Now we are stuck with a house that likely will
>>>> never be up to code.
>>>
>>> Can't you get a new quote? Or else, never move.
>>
>> It may be asbestos siding.
>
> That can be changed, but you need a company qualified to handle
> asbestos which probably rules out her local odd job guy.
>
IF it's asbestos, you need a certified asbestos abatement company to
deal with and replace it. It might be covered under homeowners
insurance. Can't hurt to ask.

Jill

On 7/16/2017 8:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/16/2017 1:21 PM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:04:18 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 19:34:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:21:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe in Canada. In the US, until the actual "closing", anyone
>>>>>>> can back out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without penalty, really? What's the meaning of the sale contract
>>>> they >> signed then?
>>>>>
>>>>> They can come up with a reason. Reason people kept backing out on
>>>>> this house was the siding. Or so they claimed. This kind of siding
>>>>> had a recall. We were told that ours was fine and the recall didn't
>>>>> apply. But after buying the house, I think the real reason was that
>>>>> it is flat out not up to code and getting it up to code would cost
>>>>> a fortune. We had a guy who said he would do it for $2,000 so we
>>>>> hired him only to have him walk away saying that he'd been wrong
>>>>> and couldn't do the job for any price. We based what we paid for
>>>>> the house on that. Now we are stuck with a house that likely will
>>>>> never be up to code.
>>>>
>>>> Can't you get a new quote? Or else, never move.
>>>
>>> It may be asbestos siding.
>>
>> That can be changed, but you need a company qualified to handle
>> asbestos which probably rules out her local odd job guy.
>>
> IF it's asbestos, you need a certified asbestos abatement company to
> deal with and replace it. It might be covered under homeowners
> insurance. Can't hurt to ask.
>
> Jill

May differ by state but in most, you can DIY

A person who removes asphalt roofing or siding does not need to hold an
Asbestos
Abatement Contractor License from the DLS as long as the work that
breaks, shears, or
slices the non-friable asphalt roofing and siding materials does not
produce asbestos
dust or make the material friable [See DLS’s regulation, 453 CMR
6.13(2)(a)5)] and the
work is performed in accordance with MassDEP 310 CMR 7.15.

On 2017-07-16 9:40 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 16 Jul 2017 04:13:04p, jmcquown told us...
>

> Fair has little to do with it, Jill. People didn't have to keep
> posting in resonse to it ad nauseum. If John would quit posting
> about wondrous things he's going to do to "his" house, everone else
> would quit responding.
>

Give him credit for achieving what Julie had been trying to do for
years, to make 90% of the posts about him.

On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 01:41:56 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sun 16 Jul 2017 04:16:04p, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 7/16/2017 5:52 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> cshenk1 @cox.net says...
>>>
>>>> Some go on endlessly in this thread on how John shouldnt be
>>>> getting a house at last.
>>>
>>> ????? I've not seen anybody say that even once, let alone
>>> "endlessly".
>>>
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>>
>> No one ever said John should not get a house. We just hate to
>> hear him talk about spending a bunch of money to make improvements
>> on a house he doesn't yet own.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
>Keep reminding yourself that, in some degree, is is mentally
>incompetent.

And you is is a psychologist?

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:23:02 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 7/16/2017 5:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-07-16 3:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:40:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> It's pretty clear that he doesn't really want anyone's help from this
>>>> group.
>>>
>>> That never stops this group.
>>
>>
>> Like you, he just wants to be heard. If it were not for his bragging,
>> we would never have heard about him inheriting enough money to buy the
>> place.
>>
>>
>Exactly like Bruce.

Killfiling people and then bitching about them makes you a coward
McBiddy.