On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 22:10:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>I only realized that my Cisinart PRofesional Pro model was eligible for
>a replacemet blade early last week. I filled out the online form the
>next day, and the blade arrived today! Given their backlog, I thought
>it might be weeks or nths before I received it.
>
>I repackaged the old blade per their instructions, but did not see any
>instrctions for returning it. Does anyone who hasa received their
>replacement blade know if the old blade needs to be returned or simiply
>just disposed of?
>
>My FP has been in regular heavy duty use for well over 30 years and
>I've had no blade problem, but better safe with the new blade than
>sorry with the old one.

I think I bought mine about 1977 - I did replace the blade maybe
sometime in the early 90s. Thinking about it, I give it top points.
Doubt one can buy anything that would last as long these days!

On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 00:41:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:



>>>
>>>My FP has been in regular heavy duty use for well over 30 years
>>>and I've had no blade problem, but better safe with the new blade
>>>than sorry with the old one.
>>
>> I think I bought mine about 1977 - I did replace the blade maybe
>> sometime in the early 90s. Thinking about it, I give it top
>> points. Doubt one can buy anything that would last as long these
>> days!
>>
>
>I checked my file folder of small appliance books, receipts, and
>warantees a sort while ago. I purchsed both my KA 5 qt. stand mixer
>and my Chisinart Professional PRo 14 cup FP in the mid-1970s. I
>doubt that the current models of either of these are as good as the
>originals, as both have seen really heavy duty use. I know that KA
>had some gear problemts some years ago when they tried to switch from
>metal gears to either nylon or plastic. My KA was made by Hobart,
>but the newer ones are not.
>
>I have kneaded almost everything in one or the other machines,
>depending on quantity. I've never had really good arm strengh for
>hand kneading, except for a short finish.

I have a Kenwood stand mixer I bought about 1969, still going strong.
I do give the works a feed of oil every few years. It's a bit on the
noisy side now, but I don't really mind that.

On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 07:33:10 -0300, wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 00:41:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>My FP has been in regular heavy duty use for well over 30 years
>>>>and I've had no blade problem, but better safe with the new blade
>>>>than sorry with the old one.
>>>
>>> I think I bought mine about 1977 - I did replace the blade maybe
>>> sometime in the early 90s. Thinking about it, I give it top
>>> points. Doubt one can buy anything that would last as long these
>>> days!
>>>
>>
>>I checked my file folder of small appliance books, receipts, and
>>warantees a sort while ago. I purchsed both my KA 5 qt. stand mixer
>>and my Chisinart Professional PRo 14 cup FP in the mid-1970s. I
>>doubt that the current models of either of these are as good as the
>>originals, as both have seen really heavy duty use. I know that KA
>>had some gear problemts some years ago when they tried to switch from
>>metal gears to either nylon or plastic. My KA was made by Hobart,
>>but the newer ones are not.
>>
>>I have kneaded almost everything in one or the other machines,
>>depending on quantity. I've never had really good arm strengh for
>>hand kneading, except for a short finish.
>
>I have a Kenwood stand mixer I bought about 1969, still going strong.
>I do give the works a feed of oil every few years. It's a bit on the
>noisy side now, but I don't really mind that.

The oldest electric appliance still in use is my mother's Sunbeam
stand mixer, purchased in the late 1940s, I used it, and now my
daughter uses it, next will be my grands.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 00:41:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >>>
> >>>My FP has been in regular heavy duty use for well over 30 years
> >>>and I've had no blade problem, but better safe with the new blade
> >>>than sorry with the old one.
> >>
> >> I think I bought mine about 1977 - I did replace the blade maybe
> >> sometime in the early 90s. Thinking about it, I give it top
> >> points. Doubt one can buy anything that would last as long these
> >> days!
> >>
> >
> >I checked my file folder of small appliance books, receipts, and
> >warantees a sort while ago. I purchsed both my KA 5 qt. stand mixer
> >and my Chisinart Professional PRo 14 cup FP in the mid-1970s. I
> >doubt that the current models of either of these are as good as the
> >originals, as both have seen really heavy duty use. I know that KA
> >had some gear problemts some years ago when they tried to switch from
> >metal gears to either nylon or plastic. My KA was made by Hobart,
> >but the newer ones are not.
> >
> >I have kneaded almost everything in one or the other machines,
> >depending on quantity. I've never had really good arm strengh for
> >hand kneading, except for a short finish.
>
> I have a Kenwood stand mixer I bought about 1969, still going strong.
> I do give the works a feed of oil every few years. It's a bit on the
> noisy side now, but I don't really mind that.

My 1969 Kenwood Chefette hand mixer died earlier this year. Heart
attack; it just dropped dead, no time to say goodbye. It was my first
ever kitchen toy. (sob>

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Beaters-for...Chefette-A375-
Mixer/1523289189?iid=322460712975

The "liquidiser" attachment broke decades ago but the variable speed
motor and beaters lasted 48 years. I need it for meringue so I hotfooted
off to buy another.

To my amazement Kenwood still make an almost identical handmixer and
the price hasn't changed. Though in 1969, £20 was a week's pay :-)

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/...ers--mixers---
food-processors-44/kenwood-hm520-hand-mixer-125130562-p-44

Janet UK

> wrote in message
...

> I have a Kenwood stand mixer I bought about 1969, still going strong.
> I do give the works a feed of oil every few years. It's a bit on the
> noisy side now, but I don't really mind that.


I have a KA from the 70's and a newer KA from 3 or 4 years ago that I got by
saving rewards points until I had enough to get it free, the thing is, the
newer pale yellow one is in the garage, and I am back to the older one since
the newer one has had many problems. It's a shame really that the newer
appliances are not built to last as well as the older ones.

Cheri

On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 09:24:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>
>> I have a Kenwood stand mixer I bought about 1969, still going strong.
>> I do give the works a feed of oil every few years. It's a bit on the
>> noisy side now, but I don't really mind that.
>
>
>I have a KA from the 70's and a newer KA from 3 or 4 years ago that I got by
>saving rewards points until I had enough to get it free, the thing is, the
>newer pale yellow one is in the garage, and I am back to the older one since
>the newer one has had many problems. It's a shame really that the newer
>appliances are not built to last as well as the older ones.
>
>Cheri

Yes, but most of society has become a throw away society, they
sometimes can't understand how we kept things for so long. I mean,
like, they stayed the same colour, did the same things, no updates

On 8/6/2017 10:21 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> Once you buy one of these powerful stand mixers, you seldom need to
> by another one. Where I lived at the time I never saw a Kenwood for
> sale, although I had read about them. Do you take your Kenwood apart
> to oil it? The KA has no oiling hole, so I'd have to disassemble it
> to do so. My KA has always made a bit of noise, espcially on high
> speed, but I have nothing to compare ot to.
>
I use a Kitchenaid in the US, and a Kenwood in the UK - the fairly
recent Kenwood is much noisier than the circa 1979 KitchenAid.

On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 21:21:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sun 06 Aug 2017 03:33:10a, told us...
>
>> On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 00:41:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>My FP has been in regular heavy duty use for well over 30 years
>>>>>and I've had no blade problem, but better safe with the new
>>>>>blade than sorry with the old one.
>>>>
>>>> I think I bought mine about 1977 - I did replace the blade maybe
>>>> sometime in the early 90s. Thinking about it, I give it top
>>>> points. Doubt one can buy anything that would last as long these
>>>> days!
>>>>
>>>
>>>I checked my file folder of small appliance books, receipts, and
>>>warantees a sort while ago. I purchsed both my KA 5 qt. stand
>>>mixer and my Chisinart Professional PRo 14 cup FP in the
>>>mid-1970s. I doubt that the current models of either of these are
>>>as good as the originals, as both have seen really heavy duty use.
>>> I know that KA had some gear problemts some years ago when they
>>>tried to switch from metal gears to either nylon or plastic. My
>>>KA was made by Hobart, but the newer ones are not.
>>>
>>>I have kneaded almost everything in one or the other machines,
>>>depending on quantity. I've never had really good arm strengh for
>>>hand kneading, except for a short finish.
>>
>> I have a Kenwood stand mixer I bought about 1969, still going
>> strong. I do give the works a feed of oil every few years. It's a
>> bit on the noisy side now, but I don't really mind that.
>
>Once you buy one of these powerful stand mixers, you seldom need to
>by another one. Where I lived at the time I never saw a Kenwood for
>sale, although I had read about them. Do you take your Kenwood apart
>to oil it? The KA has no oiling hole, so I'd have to disassemble it
>to do so. My KA has always made a bit of noise, espcially on high
>speed, but I have nothing to compare ot to.

There used to be a poster on the bread group who regularly took his KA
apart to service it. He wrote up the instructions and I believe
posted them. I can't remember his name (Barry?) Maybe if Graham
reads this he can help or perhaps Ophelia.
Janet US

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.45...
> On Sun 06 Aug 2017 09:24:09a, Cheri told us...
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I have a Kenwood stand mixer I bought about 1969, still going
>>> strong. I do give the works a feed of oil every few years. It's
>>> a bit on the noisy side now, but I don't really mind that.
>>
>>
>> I have a KA from the 70's and a newer KA from 3 or 4 years ago
>> that I got by saving rewards points until I had enough to get it
>> free, the thing is, the newer pale yellow one is in the garage,
>> and I am back to the older one since the newer one has had many
>> problems. It's a shame really that the newer appliances are not
>> built to last as well as the older ones.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
>
> Curious... Why did you buy the second KA?

I didn't buy it, I used credit card rewards...frankly, I wanted a pale
yellow color to match my kitchen. When I got the other one so many years ago
they only came in white.

Cheri

On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 22:49:14 +0100, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 8/6/2017 10:21 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> Once you buy one of these powerful stand mixers, you seldom need to
>> by another one. Where I lived at the time I never saw a Kenwood for
>> sale, although I had read about them. Do you take your Kenwood apart
>> to oil it? The KA has no oiling hole, so I'd have to disassemble it
>> to do so. My KA has always made a bit of noise, espcially on high
>> speed, but I have nothing to compare ot to.
>>
>I use a Kitchenaid in the US, and a Kenwood in the UK - the fairly
>recent Kenwood is much noisier than the circa 1979 KitchenAid.

I bought the Kenwood because it was the one I had been familiar with
but I am not sure they are still around here, never see them in places
like Sears anyway.

On 2017-08-07, > wrote:

> I bought the Kenwood because.....

I bought a Kenwood because ....it was in a WW tent sale, it was cheap, it
was labeled Rival, and it had 22 attachments, available, at that time.
Still have it, still works, but I've sold/tossed/given away most of
any attachments I may have purchased separately (junk).

Kenwoods go through two right angle gears , KAs only one. KAs have
incredibly cheap parts, so are prone to failure. Kenwoods have
been rebranded so many times, dog only knows to what level they've
deteriorated.

nb

On 2017-08-07, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> It was after their separation from Hobart that they went downhill.

My MIL hadda Hobart KA. She used it so much, the speed switch (slide)
finally succumbed. She could use high speed, only.

> If you want a top quality never die stand mixer today, you should
> probably consider one still made by Hobart. However, they are quite
> pricey.

Ya think!?

<https://www.amazon.com/Hobart-Commercial-Mixer-Gear-Driven-3-Speed/dp/B000VVOC34>

Jes a few yrs ago, they usta be under $2,000USD. Greed wins!!

nb

On 8/7/2017 4:03 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> I don't know when you got the two KAs, but your first one was
> probably made by Hobart and the second one was probably not. To the
> best of my knowledge, Hobart never made any stand mixers other than
> white.

My circa 1979 Hobart-made KitchenAid is an ivory/cream/vanilla colour.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.45...
> On Sun 06 Aug 2017 10:25:53p, Cheri told us...
>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 9.45...
>>> On Sun 06 Aug 2017 09:24:09a, Cheri told us...
>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I have a Kenwood stand mixer I bought about 1969, still going
>>>>> strong. I do give the works a feed of oil every few years.
>>>>> It's a bit on the noisy side now, but I don't really mind that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a KA from the 70's and a newer KA from 3 or 4 years ago
>>>> that I got by saving rewards points until I had enough to get it
>>>> free, the thing is, the newer pale yellow one is in the garage,
>>>> and I am back to the older one since the newer one has had many
>>>> problems. It's a shame really that the newer appliances are not
>>>> built to last as well as the older ones.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Curious... Why did you buy the second KA?
>>
>> I didn't buy it, I used credit card rewards...frankly, I wanted a
>> pale yellow color to match my kitchen. When I got the other one so
>> many years ago they only came in white.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
>
> I don't know when you got the two KAs, but your first one was
> probably made by Hobart and the second one was probably not. To the
> best of my knowledge, Hobart never made any stand mixers other than
> white. After KA separated from Hobart their quality went downhill
> for quite a while and there were many complaints, especially about
> the gears. They have since made improvements, but I don't think the
> new ones are equal to those from Hobart.

I got the white one in the 70's and the newer one 3 or 4 years ago. The
gears seem to slip on the newer one, also the knobs on the speed and the
head lock broke immediately, the head keep loosening even though I do go
underneath and tighten often, and that's just a few of the annoyances, but
it does look really nice in the garage. ;-)

Cheri

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.45...
> On Mon 07 Aug 2017 08:05:18a, notbob told us...
>
>> On 2017-08-07, > wrote:
>>
>>> I bought the Kenwood because.....
>>
>> I bought a Kenwood because ....it was in a WW tent sale, it was
>> cheap, it was labeled Rival, and it had 22 attachments, available,
>> at that time. Still have it, still works, but I've
>> sold/tossed/given away most of any attachments I may have
>> purchased separately (junk).
>>
>> Kenwoods go through two right angle gears , KAs only one. KAs
>> have incredibly cheap parts, so are prone to failure. Kenwoods
>> have been rebranded so many times, dog only knows to what level
>> they've deteriorated.
>>
>> nb
>>
>>
>
> You need to clarify that KAs made by Hobart are still up and running
> with the lowest failure rate of any stand mixer. It was after their
> separation from Hobart that they went downhill.
>
> If you want a top quality never die stand mixer today, you should
> probably consider one still made by Hobart. However, they are quite
> pricey.

Yes, there's a reason that large scale food preparers use Hobart's.

Cheri

On 8/7/2017 11:27 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-08-07, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> It was after their separation from Hobart that they went downhill.
>
> My MIL hadda Hobart KA. She used it so much, the speed switch (slide)
> finally succumbed. She could use high speed, only.
>
>> If you want a top quality never die stand mixer today, you should
>> probably consider one still made by Hobart. However, they are quite
>> pricey.
>
> Ya think!?
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Hobart-Commercial-Mixer-Gear-Driven-3-Speed/dp/B000VVOC34>
>
> Jes a few yrs ago, they usta be under $2,000USD. Greed wins!!
>
> nb
>

The weight of the Hobart is 50# while the KA is 29#. I'd say it is
better made with more metal and beefier parts.

On 2017-08-07, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> I'd say it is better made with more metal and beefier parts.

At almost $50USD per lb, it damn sure better be!!

nb