U.S. Janet B. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 17:40:01 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 11:54:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:15:59 -0400, jmcquown
> > >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On 8/7/2017 12:56 PM, wrote:
> >> >>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:16:16 -0400, jmcquown
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> >>>> On 8/7/2017 11:01 AM, wrote:
> >> >>>>> "l not -l" wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Now I'm conflicted about tomorrow's breakfast; should I do a
> >> >>>>>> rerun of today or have the breakfast that I had been
> planning. >> >>>>>> Rerun or fire-roasted poblano stuffed with
> chorizo, egg and >> >>>>>> cheese, topped with salsa and a Daisy
> dollop? >> > > > > >
> >> >>>>> "Daisy dollop"?
> >> > > > > >
> >> >>>> It's a term coined by Daisy brand sour cream in advertising.
> >> > > > >
> >> >>>> The tag-line: "Do a dollop of Daisy".
> >> > > > >
> >> >>>> According to the ads, a dollop of Daisy is a heaping
> >> tablespoonful of >>>> sour cream added to something. Or used to
> top >> something.
> >> > > > >
> >> >>>> Jill
> >> > > >
> >> >>> I've never heard of Daisy sour cream. Here there are major
> dairy >> >>> names like Crowley or store brands.
> >> >>> crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
> >> > > >
> >> > > I've never heard of Crowley. I looked it up. While they do
> have >> > > "natural" sour cream they seem to be touting fat free or
> lactose >> > > free. Oh goody! No thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
> >> > >
> >> > > There are different brands all across the United States. I
> >> > > bought Breakstone last week. It's not fat free, lactose free
> >> > > (who would expect sour cream to be lactose free). It's 100%
> >> > > whole milk sour cream.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jill
> >>
> >> Crowley foods is regional, but is part of Hood.
> >> http://crowleyfoods.com/About/default.aspx?id=2454
> >>
> >> > Daisy is a national brand that advertises on TV; hard to miss.
> It's >> > in all the supermarkets here. Never heard of Crowley.
> >> > Janet US
> >>
> >> Can't be too national I've not seen Daisy in the new york area...
> from >> its web site I'd say it's very regional:
> >> "Daisy Brand has been a family-owned company committed to providing
> >> the freshest, most wholesome dairy products. The company is
> >> headquartered in Dallas, Texas with manufacturing facilities in
> >> Garland, Texas; Casa Grande, Arizona; and Wooster, Ohio."
> >>
> >> Most dairy brands are regional.
> >
> > I think the brand is very common along the south and I can definetly
> > get it here. It's the same ingredients and Breakstone but less
> > expensive.
>
> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk and
> . cream.
> Janet US

Um, I;m not sure why you seem to want to argue that I say they have the
same ingredients?

--

On 8/7/2017 7:29 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 8/7/2017 6:40 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> I think the brand is very common along the south and I can definetly
>>> get it here. It's the same ingredients and Breakstone but less
>>> expensive.
>>
>> I bought Breakstone on sale for less than Daisy. I would not call
>> Daisy a "southern" brand even though it originated in Texas. It has
>> become a nationally advertised and distributed sour cream. It may
>> not be available at Sheldon's grocery store, but it is certainly
>> available in the state of New York.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I've seen breakstone less but not often. Normally Daisy is less in my
> area. I get whichever is less as they are both good.
>
We all live in different areas. Breakstone happened to be less
expensive last week than Daisy brand so that's what I bought.

Jill

On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 18:32:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>U.S. Janet B. wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 17:40:01 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 11:54:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:15:59 -0400, jmcquown
>> > >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 8/7/2017 12:56 PM, wrote:
>> >> >>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:16:16 -0400, jmcquown
>> >> > >>> wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> >>>> On 8/7/2017 11:01 AM, wrote:
>> >> >>>>> "l not -l" wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> Now I'm conflicted about tomorrow's breakfast; should I do a
>> >> >>>>>> rerun of today or have the breakfast that I had been
>> planning. >> >>>>>> Rerun or fire-roasted poblano stuffed with
>> chorizo, egg and >> >>>>>> cheese, topped with salsa and a Daisy
>> dollop? >> > > > > >
>> >> >>>>> "Daisy dollop"?
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> >>>> It's a term coined by Daisy brand sour cream in advertising.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> >>>> The tag-line: "Do a dollop of Daisy".
>> >> > > > >
>> >> >>>> According to the ads, a dollop of Daisy is a heaping
>> >> tablespoonful of >>>> sour cream added to something. Or used to
>> top >> something.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> >>>> Jill
>> >> > > >
>> >> >>> I've never heard of Daisy sour cream. Here there are major
>> dairy >> >>> names like Crowley or store brands.
>> >> >>> crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > I've never heard of Crowley. I looked it up. While they do
>> have >> > > "natural" sour cream they seem to be touting fat free or
>> lactose >> > > free. Oh goody! No thanks.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > http://crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
>> >> > >
>> >> > > There are different brands all across the United States. I
>> >> > > bought Breakstone last week. It's not fat free, lactose free
>> >> > > (who would expect sour cream to be lactose free). It's 100%
>> >> > > whole milk sour cream.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Jill
>> >>
>> >> Crowley foods is regional, but is part of Hood.
>> >> http://crowleyfoods.com/About/default.aspx?id=2454
>> >>
>> >> > Daisy is a national brand that advertises on TV; hard to miss.
>> It's >> > in all the supermarkets here. Never heard of Crowley.
>> >> > Janet US
>> >>
>> >> Can't be too national I've not seen Daisy in the new york area...
>> from >> its web site I'd say it's very regional:
>> >> "Daisy Brand has been a family-owned company committed to providing
>> >> the freshest, most wholesome dairy products. The company is
>> >> headquartered in Dallas, Texas with manufacturing facilities in
>> >> Garland, Texas; Casa Grande, Arizona; and Wooster, Ohio."
>> >>
>> >> Most dairy brands are regional.
>> >
>> > I think the brand is very common along the south and I can definetly
>> > get it here. It's the same ingredients and Breakstone but less
>> > expensive.
>>
>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
>> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk and
>> . cream.
>> Janet US
>
>Um, I;m not sure why you seem to want to argue that I say they have the
>same ingredients?

You made the point of saying that Breakstone and Daisy had the same
ingredients, that would imply that in your experience some brands have
different ingredients. I'm not arguing anything. Just questioning
what you said. So, do brands of sour cream around you have more than
milk and cream?
Janet US

On 8/7/2017 5:54 PM, wrote:

>
> You give no citation... their web site says no such thing.
> www.daisybrand.com
> Just talks about being around for some 100 years and some tooting
> their own horn... same crowing and mooing as most old dairy companys.
> They are not in NY... I doubt they are anywhere in the northeast.
> https://www.daisybrand.com/daisy-brand-history
>

I think you mentioned you shop at BJ's
http://www.bjs.com/daisy-sour-cream-...product.281395

I can rasily get it here in CT and MA.
https://daisybrand.com/faq
SOUR CREAM FAQ

Where can I find Daisy Sour Cream?
More than 90% of all grocery stores in the United States carry Daisy
Brand Sour Cream, as well as a large number of club stores, military
commissaries, and food service establishments across the nation. Please
contact us to find a store near you.

On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 18:33:54 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/7/2017 5:54 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 21:14:16 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 7-Aug-2017, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 11:54:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B.
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:15:59 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/7/2017 12:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:16:16 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/7/2017 11:01 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "l not -l" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Now I'm conflicted about tomorrow's breakfast; should I
>>>>>>>>>> do a
>>>>>>>>>> rerun of today or have the breakfast that I had been
>>>>>>>>>> planning.
>>>>>>>>>> Rerun or fire-roasted poblano stuffed with chorizo, egg
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> cheese, topped with salsa and a Daisy dollop?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Daisy dollop"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a term coined by Daisy brand sour cream in
>>>>>>>> advertising.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The tag-line: "Do a dollop of Daisy".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to the ads, a dollop of Daisy is a heaping
>>>>>>>> tablespoonful of
>>>>>>>> sour cream added to something. Or used to top something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never heard of Daisy sour cream. Here there are major
>>>>>>> dairy
>>>>>>> names like Crowley or store brands.
>>>>>>> crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never heard of Crowley. I looked it up. While they do
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> "natural" sour cream they seem to be touting fat free or
>>>>>> lactose free.
>>>>>> Oh goody! No thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are different brands all across the United States. I
>>>>>> bought
>>>>>> Breakstone last week. It's not fat free, lactose free (who
>>>>>> would expect
>>>>>> sour cream to be lactose free). It's 100% whole milk sour
>>>>>> cream.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Crowley foods is regional, but is part of Hood.
>>>> http://crowleyfoods.com/About/default.aspx?id=2454
>>>>
>>>>> Daisy is a national brand that advertises on TV; hard to miss.
>>>>> It's
>>>>> in all the supermarkets here. Never heard of Crowley.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> Can't be too national I've not seen Daisy in the new york
>>>> area... from
>>>> its web site I'd say it's very regional:
>>>> "Daisy Brand has been a family-owned company committed to
>>>> providing
>>>> the freshest, most wholesome dairy products. The company is
>>>> headquartered in Dallas, Texas with manufacturing facilities in
>>>> Garland, Texas; Casa Grande, Arizona; and Wooster, Ohio."
>>>>
>>>> Most dairy brands are regional.
>>
>>> So true, in the first half of the 20th century. Had you been
>>> thorough in your perusal of the Daisy website, you would have
>>> found the following to update your knowledge to the modern age.
>>>
>>> "The company is headquartered in Dallas, Texas with manufacturing
>>> plants in Garland, Texas (opened in 1998), Casa Grande, Arizona
>>> (opened in 2008), and Wooster, Ohio (opened in late 2015).
>>> Having grown to above a 45 share, Daisy Sour Cream is the
>>> Nation’s number one brand with distribution in all 50 states.
>>> Additionally, Daisy is the largest brand in food service,
>>> military, and club and is recognized by consumers for “A Dollop
>>> of Daisy”, a tagline that put this once small brand on the map."
>>>
>>> If that's regional, then the region is all of the US, except
>>> where Sheldon lives.
>>
>> You give no citation... their web site says no such thing.
>> www.daisybrand.com
>>
>Read your own link. You have to hunt for the "where to find it" info.
>But it's there, plain as day:
>
>"More than 90% of all grocery stores in the United States carry Daisy
>Brand Sour Cream, as well as a large number of club stores, military
>commissaries, and food service establishments across the nation."

I still don't see a link to that info... perhaps 30% of stores
sell Daisy products. Most every product says they are sold
nationally when all they sell in is maybe six states and and not even
the entire of those states. I'm positive that the Daisy brand is not
sold in the New England area... the same as I'm sure that the Crowleys
brand is not sold in other than the north east. I never heard of a
"Daisy Dollop", that's why I asked. In fact the Crowleys brand is
rarely advertised in the northeast, doesn't need to as everyone in the
northeast knows Crowleys as a household name. In the northeast
Crowleys is more well known for quality dairy than Bordens,
Breakstones, and Sealtest combined.

On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 4:51:28 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 15:24:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> "l not -l" wrote:
> >> >Rerun or fire-roasted poblano stuffed with chorizo, egg and
> >> >cheese, topped with salsa and a Daisy dollop?
> >>
> >> "Daisy dollop"?
> >
> >It's a decent brand of sour cream.
>
> I've never eaten one brand that was better than another brand... if
> you like sour cream they are all good, if you don't like sour cream
> they all suck. Since all commercially made sour cream is decent the
> only thing to make one more decent is the one with the lower cost.

I prefer sour cream without thickeners and stabilizers. Breakstone
is my favorite. It's worth paying a little more for.

Perhaps your sensory apparatus is so degraded, you cannot tell
the difference.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:49:14 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 8/7/2017 6:40 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > I think the brand is very common along the south and I can definetly
> > get it here. It's the same ingredients and Breakstone but less
> > expensive.
>
> I bought Breakstone on sale for less than Daisy. I would not call Daisy
> a "southern" brand even though it originated in Texas. It has become a
> nationally advertised and distributed sour cream. It may not be
> available at Sheldon's grocery store, but it is certainly available in
> the state of New York.
>

His Walmart might carry it.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk and
> . cream.

Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:

INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean Gum.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 17:40:01 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 11:54:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:15:59 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On 8/7/2017 12:56 PM, wrote:
> >> >>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:16:16 -0400, jmcquown
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> >>>> On 8/7/2017 11:01 AM, wrote:
> >> >>>>> "l not -l" wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Now I'm conflicted about tomorrow's breakfast; should I do a
> >> >>>>>> rerun of today or have the breakfast that I had been planning.
> >> >>>>>> Rerun or fire-roasted poblano stuffed with chorizo, egg and
> >> >>>>>> cheese, topped with salsa and a Daisy dollop?
> >> > > > > >
> >> >>>>> "Daisy dollop"?
> >> > > > > >
> >> >>>> It's a term coined by Daisy brand sour cream in advertising.
> >> > > > >
> >> >>>> The tag-line: "Do a dollop of Daisy".
> >> > > > >
> >> >>>> According to the ads, a dollop of Daisy is a heaping
> >> tablespoonful of >>>> sour cream added to something. Or used to top
> >> something.
> >> > > > >
> >> >>>> Jill
> >> > > >
> >> >>> I've never heard of Daisy sour cream. Here there are major dairy
> >> >>> names like Crowley or store brands.
> >> >>> crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
> >> > > >
> >> > > I've never heard of Crowley. I looked it up. While they do have
> >> > > "natural" sour cream they seem to be touting fat free or lactose
> >> > > free. Oh goody! No thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
> >> > >
> >> > > There are different brands all across the United States. I
> >> > > bought Breakstone last week. It's not fat free, lactose free
> >> > > (who would expect sour cream to be lactose free). It's 100%
> >> > > whole milk sour cream.

Like "crab" sticks," "cooking " wine and other commercial fake
imitations; people who've never tasted the real thing are easily fooled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_c...cial_varieties

"Traditionally, sour cream was made by letting cream that was skimmed
off the top of milk ferment at a moderate temperature. The bacteria that
developed during fermentation thickened the cream and made it more
acidic, a natural way of preserving it.

Traditional sour cream contains from 18 to 20 percent butterfat[citation
needed] and gets its characteristic tang from the lactic acid created by
the bacteria.

Commercial varieties

Commercially produced sour cream usually contains 14 percent milk fat,
and can contain additional thickening agents such as gelatin, rennet,
guar gum and carrageenan, as well as acids to artificially sour the
product.

Light, or reduced-fat, sour cream contains less butterfat than regular
sour cream, because it is made from a mixture of milk and cream rather
than just cream.

Fat-free "sour cream" contains no cream at all, and is made primarily
from non-fat milk, modified cornstarch, thickeners and flavoring agents"

Janet UK

On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
>> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk and
>> . cream.
>
> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>
> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean Gum.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed? I'll have to look at
some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I guess it is
cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all milk.

Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.

On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 21:18:11 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/7/2017 5:54 PM, wrote:
>
>>
>> You give no citation... their web site says no such thing.
>> www.daisybrand.com
>> Just talks about being around for some 100 years and some tooting
>> their own horn... same crowing and mooing as most old dairy companys.
>> They are not in NY... I doubt they are anywhere in the northeast.
>> https://www.daisybrand.com/daisy-brand-history
>>
>
>I think you mentioned you shop at BJ's
>http://www.bjs.com/daisy-sour-cream-...product.281395


We don't buy any perishables at BJs.... there we buy canned goods,
cleaning products and paper products. BJ's is too far from us to even
think about buying perishables. We don't buy many perishables at
Walmart either, it's easier to buy perishables in town, mostly we buy
dairy at Stewart's Shops, I buy meats at in town at Tops. I asked
about the Daisy dollop because from the context I had no idea it was
about sour cream, I never heard of Daisy sour cream, I've never seen
it advertised anywhere. We don't buy much sour cream and when we do
it's the store brand because it comes from the same local dairy as the
name brands but costs less. For all I knew the Daisy dollop referred
to a sex aid. Now I will make it a point to check out the sour cream
at the various markets we go to around here. We really don't buy much
dairy, my wife has milk in her tea, I never drink milk and neither
does she... we never buy yogurt, we rarely buy ice cream, we don't buy
much cheese, we do buy butter and eggs. I don't remember the last
time we bought sour cream, probably to bake something for
Thanksgiving, sour cream is not something we ever keep in the fridge.

>I can rasily get it here in CT and MA.
>https://daisybrand.com/faq
>SOUR CREAM FAQ
>
> Where can I find Daisy Sour Cream?
>More than 90% of all grocery stores in the United States carry Daisy
>Brand Sour Cream, as well as a large number of club stores, military
>commissaries, and food service establishments across the nation. Please
>contact us to find a store near you.

Their store locater is useless (actually non existant), I'm not about
to fill out that long form, supply all my personalk informations, and
wait for email... why don't they have software to enter a zip code
like normal products?!?!?
From reading their FAQ I don't believe Daisy has their own dairy(s),
to me it's obvious that they contract with local dairys that are
willing to fill and distribute their containers.... no different from
all other store brands.

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> >> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
> >> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk and
> >> . cream.
> >
> > Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
> >
> > INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean Gum.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed?

Because thickeners are cheaper than cream, and people always
want to save a buck.

> I'll have to look at
> some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I guess it is
> cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all milk.
>
> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.

It's made from carob.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/8/2017 7:11 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 21:18:11 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 8/7/2017 5:54 PM, wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You give no citation... their web site says no such thing.
>>> www.daisybrand.com
>>> Just talks about being around for some 100 years and some tooting
>>> their own horn... same crowing and mooing as most old dairy companys.
>>> They are not in NY... I doubt they are anywhere in the northeast.
>>> https://www.daisybrand.com/daisy-brand-history
>>>
>>
>> I think you mentioned you shop at BJ's
>> http://www.bjs.com/daisy-sour-cream-...product.281395
>
>
> We don't buy any perishables at BJs.... there we buy canned goods,
> cleaning products and paper products. BJ's is too far from us to even
> think about buying perishables. We don't buy many perishables at
> Walmart either, it's easier to buy perishables in town, mostly we buy
> dairy at Stewart's Shops, I buy meats at in town at Tops. I asked
> about the Daisy dollop because from the context I had no idea it was
> about sour cream, I never heard of Daisy sour cream, I've never seen
> it advertised anywhere. We don't buy much sour cream and when we do
> it's the store brand because it comes from the same local dairy as the
> name brands but costs less. For all I knew the Daisy dollop referred
> to a sex aid. Now I will make it a point to check out the sour cream
> at the various markets we go to around here. We really don't buy much
> dairy, my wife has milk in her tea, I never drink milk and neither
> does she... we never buy yogurt, we rarely buy ice cream, we don't buy
> much cheese, we do buy butter and eggs. I don't remember the last
> time we bought sour cream, probably to bake something for
> Thanksgiving, sour cream is not something we ever keep in the fridge.
>
>> I can rasily get it here in CT and MA.
>> https://daisybrand.com/faq
>> SOUR CREAM FAQ
>>
>> Where can I find Daisy Sour Cream?
>> More than 90% of all grocery stores in the United States carry Daisy
>> Brand Sour Cream, as well as a large number of club stores, military
>> commissaries, and food service establishments across the nation. Please
>> contact us to find a store near you.
>
> Their store locater is useless (actually non existant), I'm not about
> to fill out that long form, supply all my personalk informations, and
> wait for email... why don't they have software to enter a zip code
> like normal products?!?!?
> From reading their FAQ I don't believe Daisy has their own dairy(s),
> to me it's obvious that they contract with local dairys that are
> willing to fill and distribute their containers.... no different from
> all other store brands.
>

You are reading something I am not. They may not have their own
"dairies", but they have their own plants which turn the raw material
into their products.

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 03:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
>> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk and
>> . cream.
>
>Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>
>INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean Gum.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

wow, just wow. I had no idea that kind of thing existed. With all
those thickeners in there they can use a lot of whey to make the sour
cream product a lot cheaper. thanks for the info. I've been getting
my sour cream from Costco for so long that it never occurred to me
there were products out there with a lot of extras in them.
Janet US

On 8/8/2017 10:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
>>>> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk and
>>>> . cream.
>>>
>>> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>>>
>>> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean Gum.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>
>> Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed?
>
> Because thickeners are cheaper than cream, and people always
> want to save a buck.
>
>> I'll have to look at
>> some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I guess it is
>> cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all milk.
>>
>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>
> It's made from carob.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux chocolate. Can't
wait! I think I'll stick with real sour cream.

Jill

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 10:03:31 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
>>> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk and
>>> . cream.
>>
>> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>>
>> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean Gum.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
>Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed? I'll have to look at
>some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I guess it is
>cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all milk.
>
>Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.

I've never seen any sour cream with ingredients other than
milk/cream... perhaps some posters live where food products can
contain all kinds of nasty crap.

On Tue, 08 Aug 2017 14:47:04 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 08 Aug 2017 07:33:32a, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 8/8/2017 10:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B.
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour
>>>>>> cream. How many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine
>>>>>> says cultured milk and . cream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>>>>>
>>>>> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn
>>>>> Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum,
>>>>> Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean
>>>>> Gum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed?
>>>
>>> Because thickeners are cheaper than cream, and people always
>>> want to save a buck.
>>>
>>>> I'll have to look at
>>>> some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I guess it
>>>> is cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all milk.
>>>>
>>>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>>>
>>> It's made from carob.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux chocolate.
>> Can't wait! I think I'll stick with real sour cream.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
>I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate carob. I
>tried it once...never again!

I was kind of hooked on it as a kid. I mean the original pods. They
are hard with almost marble-like round seeds. You have to kind of
gnaw on the pod to soften it and it is mildly sweet. Picture he
https://www.bing.com/search?q=carob&...ef335fd155207c
or
http://tinyurl.com/y7koaww2
Janet US

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 07:22:39 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 8/8/2017 7:11 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 21:18:11 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/7/2017 5:54 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You give no citation... their web site says no such thing.
>>>> www.daisybrand.com
>>>> Just talks about being around for some 100 years and some tooting
>>>> their own horn... same crowing and mooing as most old dairy companys.
>>>> They are not in NY... I doubt they are anywhere in the northeast.
>>>> https://www.daisybrand.com/daisy-brand-history
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think you mentioned you shop at BJ's
>>> http://www.bjs.com/daisy-sour-cream-...product.281395
>>
>>
>> We don't buy any perishables at BJs.... there we buy canned goods,
>> cleaning products and paper products. BJ's is too far from us to even
>> think about buying perishables. We don't buy many perishables at
>> Walmart either, it's easier to buy perishables in town, mostly we buy
>> dairy at Stewart's Shops, I buy meats at in town at Tops. I asked
>> about the Daisy dollop because from the context I had no idea it was
>> about sour cream, I never heard of Daisy sour cream, I've never seen
>> it advertised anywhere. We don't buy much sour cream and when we do
>> it's the store brand because it comes from the same local dairy as the
>> name brands but costs less. For all I knew the Daisy dollop referred
>> to a sex aid. Now I will make it a point to check out the sour cream
>> at the various markets we go to around here. We really don't buy much
>> dairy, my wife has milk in her tea, I never drink milk and neither
>> does she... we never buy yogurt, we rarely buy ice cream, we don't buy
>> much cheese, we do buy butter and eggs. I don't remember the last
>> time we bought sour cream, probably to bake something for
>> Thanksgiving, sour cream is not something we ever keep in the fridge.
>>
>>> I can rasily get it here in CT and MA.
>>> https://daisybrand.com/faq
>>> SOUR CREAM FAQ
>>>
>>> Where can I find Daisy Sour Cream?
>>> More than 90% of all grocery stores in the United States carry Daisy
>>> Brand Sour Cream, as well as a large number of club stores, military
>>> commissaries, and food service establishments across the nation. Please
>>> contact us to find a store near you.
>>
>> Their store locater is useless (actually non existant), I'm not about
>> to fill out that long form, supply all my personalk informations, and
>> wait for email... why don't they have software to enter a zip code
>> like normal products?!?!?
>> From reading their FAQ I don't believe Daisy has their own dairy(s),
>> to me it's obvious that they contract with local dairys that are
>> willing to fill and distribute their containers.... no different from
>> all other store brands.
>>
>
>You are reading something I am not. They may not have their own
>"dairies", but they have their own plants which turn the raw material
>into their products.

Show me. They claim to only sell two products; sour cream and cottage
cheese. Dairies produce a lot more products than just sour cream and
cottage cheese or they'd operate at huge loss. You obviously have no
idea what a dairy is... a plant that turns raw milk into dairy
products is a Dairy. Raw milk isn't shipped long distances. There
are dairy farms everywhere, their raw milk is transported to the
nearest dairy... dairy products aren't shipped long distances either.
We mostly buy milk here, it's also the closest store of any kind to
where we live, 3 1/2 miles:
http://www.stewartsshops.com/specials-flavors/milk/
http://www.stewartsshops.com/who-we-are/
Stewarts Shops stores number in the hundreds, located
all over the New England area.

On 8/8/2017 10:47 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 08 Aug 2017 07:33:32a, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 8/8/2017 10:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B.
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour
>>>>>> cream. How many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine
>>>>>> says cultured milk and . cream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>>>>>
>>>>> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn
>>>>> Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum,
>>>>> Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean
>>>>> Gum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed?
>>>
>>> Because thickeners are cheaper than cream, and people always
>>> want to save a buck.
>>>
>>>> I'll have to look at
>>>> some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I guess it
>>>> is cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all milk.
>>>>
>>>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>>>
>>> It's made from carob.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux chocolate.
>> Can't wait! I think I'll stick with real sour cream.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate carob. I
> tried it once...never again!
>
I've tried carob candy. No substitute for the real thing.

Jill

On 2017-08-06, l not -l > wrote:

> I would have given up long ago and just let her eat plain
> scrambled eggs.....

SIMPLE TIP!: do NOT add any kinda dairy product to stretch the eggs,
specially 2%, or less, milk. Dairy makes eggs watery, as the water from
the dairy separates and seeps out. Great tip during the Great
Depression, when ppl were trying to stretch an egg. Completely
unnecessary, now.

Also, making "wet" (soft srcrambled) eggs makes fer a better dish.
Slow cooked, like a French omelet, even better.

nb

On 2017-08-08 10:47 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 08 Aug 2017 07:33:32a, jmcquown told us...

>
> I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate carob. I
> tried it once...never again!

I had some hippie friends who liked to talk about health foods despite
the fact that they ate a lot of crap. They were always pushing carob. I
could go along with the idea of it being a chocolate substitute, by
which I mean it was something that you use instead of chocolate, not
really as a substitute. It looked a bit like chocolate but it had none
of good qualities of chocolate.

On 2017-08-08 11:37 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-08-06, l not -l > wrote:
>
>> I would have given up long ago and just let her eat plain
>> scrambled eggs.....
>
> SIMPLE TIP!: do NOT add any kinda dairy product to stretch the eggs,
> specially 2%, or less, milk. Dairy makes eggs watery, as the water from
> the dairy separates and seeps out. Great tip during the Great
> Depression, when ppl were trying to stretch an egg. Completely
> unnecessary, now.

Funny how that works. If you whisk a little milk into the eggs and they
create a watery residue, but if you add water you don't get that water.


> Also, making "wet" (soft srcrambled) eggs makes fer a better dish.
> Slow cooked, like a French omelet, even better.

I like them wet. I avoid omelets because they usually end up with brown
bits on them and I really dislike that.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> > what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
> > many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk and
> > . cream.
>
> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>
> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean Gum.

That's a lot of ingredients.

I have 4 old containers here that I save and reuse.

Daisy: Grade A cultured cream.
contains milk

Essential Everyday: Cultured pasteurized light cream and
nonfat milk, enzymes
contains milk

Breakstone: Cultured pasteurized grade A milk and cream,
enzymes.
Contains milk

Breakstone fat free: Cultured pasteurized Grade A nonfat milk,
Dried corn syrup, food starch-modified,
contains less than 2% of mal.todextrin,
artificial color, xantham gum, natural
flavor, Vitamin A palmitate.
Contains milk

I tried that last one (fat free) only once. Not only did it
taste bad but lots of ingredients that you see.

Anyway, I just buy whatever is on sale or the cheapest at the
time. All of the top 3 are equally tasty. Won't ever buy fat free
again.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I think I'll stick with real sour cream.

Add me. I tried the fat-free Breakstone once and it was nasty.
Lot's of extra ingredients too...even corn syrup.

I don't buy sour cream all that often so when I do, I buy
the real stuff.

On 8/8/2017 8:24 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 07:22:39 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/8/2017 7:11 AM, wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 21:18:11 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/7/2017 5:54 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You give no citation... their web site says no such thing.
>>>>> www.daisybrand.com
>>>>> Just talks about being around for some 100 years and some tooting
>>>>> their own horn... same crowing and mooing as most old dairy companys.
>>>>> They are not in NY... I doubt they are anywhere in the northeast.
>>>>> https://www.daisybrand.com/daisy-brand-history
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you mentioned you shop at BJ's
>>>> http://www.bjs.com/daisy-sour-cream-...product.281395
>>>
>>>
>>> We don't buy any perishables at BJs.... there we buy canned goods,
>>> cleaning products and paper products. BJ's is too far from us to even
>>> think about buying perishables. We don't buy many perishables at
>>> Walmart either, it's easier to buy perishables in town, mostly we buy
>>> dairy at Stewart's Shops, I buy meats at in town at Tops. I asked
>>> about the Daisy dollop because from the context I had no idea it was
>>> about sour cream, I never heard of Daisy sour cream, I've never seen
>>> it advertised anywhere. We don't buy much sour cream and when we do
>>> it's the store brand because it comes from the same local dairy as the
>>> name brands but costs less. For all I knew the Daisy dollop referred
>>> to a sex aid. Now I will make it a point to check out the sour cream
>>> at the various markets we go to around here. We really don't buy much
>>> dairy, my wife has milk in her tea, I never drink milk and neither
>>> does she... we never buy yogurt, we rarely buy ice cream, we don't buy
>>> much cheese, we do buy butter and eggs. I don't remember the last
>>> time we bought sour cream, probably to bake something for
>>> Thanksgiving, sour cream is not something we ever keep in the fridge.
>>>
>>>> I can rasily get it here in CT and MA.
>>>> https://daisybrand.com/faq
>>>> SOUR CREAM FAQ
>>>>
>>>> Where can I find Daisy Sour Cream?
>>>> More than 90% of all grocery stores in the United States carry Daisy
>>>> Brand Sour Cream, as well as a large number of club stores, military
>>>> commissaries, and food service establishments across the nation. Please
>>>> contact us to find a store near you.
>>>
>>> Their store locater is useless (actually non existant), I'm not about
>>> to fill out that long form, supply all my personalk informations, and
>>> wait for email... why don't they have software to enter a zip code
>>> like normal products?!?!?
>>> From reading their FAQ I don't believe Daisy has their own dairy(s),
>>> to me it's obvious that they contract with local dairys that are
>>> willing to fill and distribute their containers.... no different from
>>> all other store brands.
>>>
>>
>> You are reading something I am not. They may not have their own
>> "dairies", but they have their own plants which turn the raw material
>> into their products.
>
> Show me. They claim to only sell two products; sour cream and cottage
> cheese. Dairies produce a lot more products than just sour cream and
> cottage cheese or they'd operate at huge loss. You obviously have no
> idea what a dairy is... a plant that turns raw milk into dairy
> products is a Dairy. Raw milk isn't shipped long distances. There
> are dairy farms everywhere, their raw milk is transported to the
> nearest dairy... dairy products aren't shipped long distances either.
> We mostly buy milk here, it's also the closest store of any kind to
> where we live, 3 1/2 miles:
> http://www.stewartsshops.com/specials-flavors/milk/
> http://www.stewartsshops.com/who-we-are/
> Stewarts Shops stores number in the hundreds, located
> all over the New England area.
>

Here, ya dope. Stop making shit up.


http://www.dairyfoods.com/articles/9...-plant-in-ohio

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 8/8/2017 10:47 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Tue 08 Aug 2017 07:33:32a, jmcquown told us...
>>
>>> On 8/8/2017 10:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B.
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour
>>>>>>> cream. How many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine
>>>>>>> says cultured milk and . cream.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn
>>>>>> Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum,
>>>>>> Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean
>>>>>> Gum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed?
>>>>
>>>> Because thickeners are cheaper than cream, and people always
>>>> want to save a buck.
>>>>
>>>>> I'll have to look at
>>>>> some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I guess it
>>>>> is cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all milk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>>>>
>>>> It's made from carob.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux chocolate.
>>> Can't wait! I think I'll stick with real sour cream.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>
>> I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate carob. I
>> tried it once...never again!
>>
> I've tried carob candy. No substitute for the real thing.
>
> Jill


Certainly a good substitute for someone who is allergic to chocolate though.

Cheri

On 8/8/2017 12:59 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 8/8/2017 10:47 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Tue 08 Aug 2017 07:33:32a, jmcquown told us...
>>>
>>>> On 8/8/2017 10:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B.
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour
>>>>>>>> cream. How many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine
>>>>>>>> says cultured milk and . cream.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn
>>>>>>> Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum,
>>>>>>> Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean
>>>>>>> Gum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because thickeners are cheaper than cream, and people always
>>>>> want to save a buck.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll have to look at
>>>>>> some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I guess it
>>>>>> is cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all milk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's made from carob.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux chocolate.
>>>> Can't wait! I think I'll stick with real sour cream.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>
>>> I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate carob. I
>>> tried it once...never again!
>>>
>> I've tried carob candy. No substitute for the real thing.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> Certainly a good substitute for someone who is allergic to chocolate
> though.
>
> Cheri

Probably. But I've never met someone who was allergic to chocolate. I
also don't eat a lot of chocolate.

Jill

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 9:47:09 AM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> I had a friend who was allergic to chocolate and always ate carob. I
> tried it once...never again!
>
>
It is disgusting stuff. I tried it a hundred years ago when on
a *special* diet. Blech!

On 8/8/2017 12:59 PM, Cheri wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's made from carob.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux chocolate.
>>>> Can't wait! I think I'll stick with real sour cream.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>
>>> I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate carob. I
>>> tried it once...never again!
>>>
>> I've tried carob candy. No substitute for the real thing.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> Certainly a good substitute for someone who is allergic to chocolate
> though.
>
> Cheri

I'd rather do without. If you like it, enjoy.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/8/2017 12:59 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's made from carob.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux chocolate.
>>>>> Can't wait! I think I'll stick with real sour cream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate carob. I
>>>> tried it once...never again!
>>>>
>>> I've tried carob candy. No substitute for the real thing.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> Certainly a good substitute for someone who is allergic to chocolate
>> though.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I'd rather do without. If you like it, enjoy.


I don't eat it, but I can see that it is a good sub for those that like
chocolate but can't have it for whatever reason, and if I did like it, I
would enjoy...thank you.

Cheri

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.45...
> On Tue 08 Aug 2017 09:59:54a, Cheri told us...
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 8/8/2017 10:47 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>> On Tue 08 Aug 2017 07:33:32a, jmcquown told us...
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/8/2017 10:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B.
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour
>>>>>>>>> cream. How many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine
>>>>>>>>> says cultured milk and . cream.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn
>>>>>>>> Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar
>>>>>>>> Gum, Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust
>>>>>>>> Bean Gum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because thickeners are cheaper than cream, and people always
>>>>>> want to save a buck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll have to look at
>>>>>>> some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I guess
>>>>>>> it is cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all milk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's made from carob.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux
>>>>> chocolate. Can't wait! I think I'll stick with real sour
>>>>> cream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate carob.
>>>> I tried it once...never again!
>>>>
>>> I've tried carob candy. No substitute for the real thing.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> Certainly a good substitute for someone who is allergic to
>> chocolate though.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
>
> NOt in my opinion. I didn't think it bore any resemblance to the
> flavor of chocolate, and would definitely choose soeething elswe.

OK. good for you.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/8/2017 12:59 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's made from carob.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux chocolate.
>>>>> Can't wait! I think I'll stick with real sour cream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate carob. I
>>>> tried it once...never again!
>>>>
>>> I've tried carob candy. No substitute for the real thing.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> Certainly a good substitute for someone who is allergic to chocolate
>> though.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I'd rather do without. If you like it, enjoy.


I don't eat it, but I can see that it is a good sub for those that like
chocolate but can't have it for whatever reason, and if I did like it, I
would enjoy...thank you.

Cheri

==

Nothing wrong with substitutes if you can enjoy them instead, eh?




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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.45...
> On Tue 08 Aug 2017 11:18:28a, Cheri told us...
>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 9.45...
>>> On Tue 08 Aug 2017 09:59:54a, Cheri told us...
>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On 8/8/2017 10:47 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue 08 Aug 2017 07:33:32a, jmcquown told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/8/2017 10:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-4, Ed
>>>>>>>> Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/8/2017 6:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet
>>>>>>>>>> B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour
>>>>>>>>>>> cream. How many ingredients are you used to seeing?
>>>>>>>>>>> Mine says cultured milk and . cream.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified
>>>>>>>>>> Corn Starch, Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate,
>>>>>>>>>> Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and
>>>>>>>>>> Locust Bean Gum.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why? Why add all that crap when it is not needed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because thickeners are cheaper than cream, and people always
>>>>>>>> want to save a buck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll have to look at
>>>>>>>>> some of the others but I've never seen one that bad. I
>>>>>>>>> guess it is cheaper for them to add chemicals than use all
>>>>>>>>> milk.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Locust bean gum anyone? Sounds yummy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's made from carob.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, so it's made from the same stuff used to make faux
>>>>>>> chocolate. Can't wait! I think I'll stick with real sour
>>>>>>> cream.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a friend who was alergic to chocolate and alays ate
>>>>>> carob.
>>>>>> I tried it once...never again!
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried carob candy. No substitute for the real thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Certainly a good substitute for someone who is allergic to
>>>> chocolate though.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> NOt in my opinion. I didn't think it bore any resemblance to the
>>> flavor of chocolate, and would definitely choose soeething elswe.
>>
>> OK. good for you.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
>
> There is imitation chocolate flaored candy that tastes much better
> than carob. :-)

So, you're saying that those that like carob couldn't possibly like it, and
should go with what you think tastes better? OK. LOL

Cheri

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
9.45:

> I didn't think it bore any resemblance
> to the flavor of chocolate, and would definitely choose
> soeething elswe.
>


You type like you're drunk again.

Just sayin'

"cshenk" > wrote in
:

> Um, I;m not sure why you seem to want to argue that I say
> they have the same ingredients?
>

You really should sock up as Sheldon and call Lil'Wayne a fruit
again.

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 8/7/2017 7:29 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On 8/7/2017 6:40 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > I think the brand is very common along the south and I can
> > > > definetly get it here. It's the same ingredients and
> > > > Breakstone but less expensive.
> > >
> > > I bought Breakstone on sale for less than Daisy. I would not call
> > > Daisy a "southern" brand even though it originated in Texas. It
> > > has become a nationally advertised and distributed sour cream.
> > > It may not be available at Sheldon's grocery store, but it is
> > > certainly available in the state of New York.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > I've seen breakstone less but not often. Normally Daisy is less in
> > my area. I get whichever is less as they are both good.
> >
> We all live in different areas. Breakstone happened to be less
> expensive last week than Daisy brand so that's what I bought.
>
> Jill

Yup. Just market shifts there. I'm happy with either version.

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U.S. Janet B. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 18:32:34 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > U.S. Janet B. wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 17:40:01 -0500, "cshenk" >
> wrote: >>
> >> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 11:54:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B.
> > >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:15:59 -0400, jmcquown
> >> > >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > On 8/7/2017 12:56 PM, wrote:
> >> >> >>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:16:16 -0400, jmcquown
> >> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >>>> On 8/7/2017 11:01 AM, wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> "l not -l" wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>> Now I'm conflicted about tomorrow's breakfast; should I
> do a >> >> >>>>>> rerun of today or have the breakfast that I had been
> >> planning. >> >>>>>> Rerun or fire-roasted poblano stuffed with
> >> chorizo, egg and >> >>>>>> cheese, topped with salsa and a Daisy
> >> dollop? >> > > > > >
> >> >> >>>>> "Daisy dollop"?
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >>>> It's a term coined by Daisy brand sour cream in
> advertising. >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >>>> The tag-line: "Do a dollop of Daisy".
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >>>> According to the ads, a dollop of Daisy is a heaping
> >> >> tablespoonful of >>>> sour cream added to something. Or used to
> >> top >> something.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >>>> Jill
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >>> I've never heard of Daisy sour cream. Here there are major
> >> dairy >> >>> names like Crowley or store brands.
> >> >> >>> crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > I've never heard of Crowley. I looked it up. While they do
> >> have >> > > "natural" sour cream they seem to be touting fat free
> or >> lactose >> > > free. Oh goody! No thanks.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > http://crowleyfoods.com/products/?id=2474
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > There are different brands all across the United States. I
> >> >> > > bought Breakstone last week. It's not fat free, lactose
> free >> >> > > (who would expect sour cream to be lactose free).
> It's 100% >> >> > > whole milk sour cream.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Jill
> >> >>
> >> >> Crowley foods is regional, but is part of Hood.
> >> >> http://crowleyfoods.com/About/default.aspx?id=2454
> >> >>
> >> >> > Daisy is a national brand that advertises on TV; hard to miss.
> >> It's >> > in all the supermarkets here. Never heard of Crowley.
> >> >> > Janet US
> >> >>
> >> >> Can't be too national I've not seen Daisy in the new york
> area... >> from >> its web site I'd say it's very regional:
> >> >> "Daisy Brand has been a family-owned company committed to
> providing >> >> the freshest, most wholesome dairy products. The
> company is >> >> headquartered in Dallas, Texas with manufacturing
> facilities in >> >> Garland, Texas; Casa Grande, Arizona; and
> Wooster, Ohio." >> >>
> >> >> Most dairy brands are regional.
> >> >
> >> > I think the brand is very common along the south and I can
> definetly >> > get it here. It's the same ingredients and Breakstone
> but less >> > expensive.
> >>
> >> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream.
> How >> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured
> milk and >> . cream.
> >> Janet US
> >
> > Um, I;m not sure why you seem to want to argue that I say they have
> > the same ingredients?
>
> You made the point of saying that Breakstone and Daisy had the same
> ingredients, that would imply that in your experience some brands have
> different ingredients. I'm not arguing anything. Just questioning
> what you said. So, do brands of sour cream around you have more than
> milk and cream?
> Janet US

*sigh* yes, some add presevatives and other things. I'm a label checker
for such.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> > what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream. How
> > many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured milk
> > and . cream.
>
> Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
>
> INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn Starch,
> Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Carrageenan,
> Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean Gum.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Yup.

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U.S. Janet B. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 03:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> >> what do you mean "It's the same ingredients?" It's sour cream.
> How >> many ingredients are you used to seeing? Mine says cultured
> milk and >> . cream.
> >
> > Here's the ingredients list from Kroger brand sour cream:
> >
> > INGREDIENTS: Cultured Cream, Skim Milk, Whey, Modified Corn Starch,
> > Cultured Dextrose, Gelatin, Sodium Phosphate, Guar Gum,
> > Carrageenan, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Sulfate and Locust Bean Gum.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> wow, just wow. I had no idea that kind of thing existed. With all
> those thickeners in there they can use a lot of whey to make the sour
> cream product a lot cheaper. thanks for the info. I've been getting
> my sour cream from Costco for so long that it never occurred to me
> there were products out there with a lot of extras in them.
> Janet US

Janet, I do not know if the costco brand you get is othr than pure
cream and milk. Migt be worth looking *if you havent* already.

Carol


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