Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 9:51:45 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2017-08-11 9:18 AM, Gary wrote:
> > > > LOL@ Have you ever just tried a plain hamburger from McD?
> > > > I like the fellows even if it is mystery meat.
> > > >
> > > > I often eat better ones from pubs and restaurants, and even
> > > > cooked at home. But the McD burgers have that unique
> > > > taste that keeps me going back for more occasionally.
> > >
> > >
> > > Really? I had a few McD's burgers years ago. That was more than
> > > enough for me. I didn't care for them at all.
> >
> > It must be one of those personal taste things. To me, McDonald's
> > burgers taste steamed and flavorless, yet Gary says the same thing
> > about pot roast. (Not steamed, necessarily, but flavorless, IIRC)
>
> After seeing pics and hearing about pot roast here, I've realized
> that the ones that I've tried in the past and didn't
> like....waste of beef... neither my mom or ex-wife thickened the
> liquid at the end into a gravy. I was always served watery pot
> roast with plain no seasoned carrots and potatoes. It was boring
> to me.
>
> I'm thinking that thickening the liquid at the end is probably
> what I missed.

THat could be. Lack of seasoning definately would be a problem.

In my home, Don makes the best pot roast in the oven and mine is second
best in a crockpot. Both good and oddly we argue as I like his best and
he likes mine best. They are very different in the spicing and what's
odd is his is best with a cheat of using canned potatoes (somehow,
mysteriously it clicks then). Because of the canned potatoes, his
doesnt freeze well if he does that version.

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On 8/12/2017 2:00 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 12 Aug 2017 10:42:46a, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 8/12/2017 12:59 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 04:34:40 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:00:02 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:43:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/11/2017 6:28 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-08-11, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I gave one of the early chia-pet kits to a friend once when
>>>>>>>>> a group of us decided to have a sillest cheap holiday gift
>>>>>>>>> exchange.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I notice the "Clapper" (clap on!-Clap off!) is also from the
>>>>>>>> same company. They start doing a buncha TV ads around
>>>>>>>> Christmas time. I've actually considered buying a "Clapper",
>>>>>>>> being a seriously lazy geezer, 'n all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think those clapper things actually work, nb! However, I'm
>>>>>>> not yet sufficiently lazy I can't turn a lamp on and off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...r-Lumens/dp/B0
>>>>>> 0A3F1MZE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495895&sr=8-1&keywords=maxx
>>>>>> ima+mln50 They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great
>>>>>> in bathrooms, hallways and basements...
>>>>>
>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is,
>>>>> not everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't
>>>>> wander around the house at night so I don't need anything like
>>>>> that. I also find LED lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>>
>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I
>>>> still have quite a few incandescents because the light is much
>>>> more pleasing.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Where I live there are no street lights, on a cloudy night it can
>>> be pitch black indoors, too dark to see past your nose.
>>
>> There are no street lights here, either. I don't drive in the
>> dark. I don't walk around the house in the dark. I go to bed, I
>> go to sleep. I turn out the beside lamp. It's a halogen bulb,
>> BTW.
>>
>>> The older LEDs
>>> emitted a harsh light but not anymore, now they are housed with a
>>> filtering lens that blocks the harsh light spectrum. The
>>> particular night lights I'm using emit a warm glow. I use them
>>> mainly so I don't step on cats sleeping in the hallways, and to
>>> avoid stepping on gushy wet hairballs. Cats also leave toys in
>>> unexpected places,
>>
>> Mine doesn't. She seems to know the living room is the place for
>> toys.
>>
>>> favorite game they play is to fight with bathroom floor mats and
>>> leave them in a heap to be tripped on. Those who fall and can't
>>> get up are the ninnies who are too cheap to use night lights.
>>>
>> YOU'RE likely to step on cats sleeping in hallways. I'm not. No
>> gooshy hairballs, either. I know where my cat is when I go to
>> bed. She's either curled up next to me or asleep on the couch in
>> the den. She does not make play toys out of bath mats.
>>
>> Sorry, your experience does not match mine. Then again, I've
>> never had multiple cats running around the house.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> To add to the light issue confusion, three of our four cats are
> predominately black. No natural light enters our hallway, so we
> always turn on he light when we walk down the hall even in the
> daytime to make sure we're not tripping over a cat. :-)
> Unfortunately there is no place to plug in a nightlite in the hall.
>
Well... I only have one cat and I can usually tell where she is. I
don't wander around the house at night.

Jill

On 2017-08-12 1:31 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>> Exactly! The whole story is ridiculous.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Agreed. The mother dumped some maggots on there then took the pictures
> hoping for a big settlement.
>


That's a scary thought. I have been exposed to maggots often enough to
know how bad they smell. It's hard to imagine someone being able to
harvest maggots with that intent and to find them repulsive enough to
complain.

On 2017-08-12 1:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> I don't know what you're doing that requires so much lighting in the
> dark. I have one night light in the hallway at the other end of the
> house because sometimes my cat sleeps on the couch in the den. She
> probably doesn't need it but I turn it on when I go to the bedroom. Me,
> I don't get up and wander around the house at night. I use Halogen
> lightbulbs, lower watt and quite pleasant. Not harsh bright white
> light. That's what Sheldon was talking about.

I have pretty good night vision, so if I have to get up in the middle of
the night I don't bother to turn on the lights. My only problem is that
we have a dog who considers his role in life is to be a tripping hazard
for burglars. I never know exactly which of his favourite blocking
locations to find him in. Sometimes he is in his bed in the corner of
our bedroom. Sometimes he is lying halfway across the bedroom door.
Sometimes he is lying in front of the bathroom door. Sometimes he uses
his teddy bear, which is almost as big as he is, to block the other side
of the hall.

On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:46:15 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/12/2017 7:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:00:02 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>> On 8/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:43:27 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/11/2017 6:28 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-08-11, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I gave one of the early chia-pet kits to a friend once when a group of
>>>>>>> us decided to have a sillest cheap holiday gift exchange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I notice the "Clapper" (clap on!-Clap off!) is also from the same
>>>>>> company. They start doing a buncha TV ads around Christmas time.
>>>>>> I've actually considered buying a "Clapper", being a seriously lazy
>>>>>> geezer, 'n all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think those clapper things actually work, nb! However, I'm not yet
>>>>> sufficiently lazy I can't turn a lamp on and off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>
>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find LED
>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>
>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still have
>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
>Incans are too yellow for me. The LEDs we have are the whiter
>"daylight" color temperature.

Even my outdoor LED fixtures emit much nicer light than the old
incandescents, and use 14 watts compared to 100 watt bulbs that didn't
last long and needed to climb a ladder to replace bulbs, that always
burned out during the coldest part of winter.

>In the bathrooms, the over the mirror fixtures have three 60W equivalent
>LED bulbs and it is nice and bright in there.

I replaced a fixture over the bathroom mirror that used four 60 watt
incandescents with a bar type LED that gives better/more light and
uses just 9 watts. I used to hate changing bulbs on that old fixture,
had to gingerly remove the large glass shade while on a ladder and
leaning way over the vanity... was even more difficult repacing that
glass shade. LEDs can last 15-20 years, even longer if you remember
to shut them off when not in use. Now whenever an incondescent burns
out I replace it with an LED... I recently replaced the bulbs on my
two garage door openers, each takes two bulbs, those are a pain to
replace as well, gotta drive the cars out and set up a ladder, then
reverse he process. And how many times I thought to replace those
bulbs before pulling the car in, but never remembered until
afterwards. I don't really care if people don't want to save money
but I liked reducing my electric bill by half and still having light.
Electric garage door openers have a white opaque lens over each bulb
so light is the same regardless which kind of bulb... besides I don't
need mood lighting in my garage.

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 12:59:58 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 04:34:40 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:00:02 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> >> On 8/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:43:27 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 8/11/2017 6:28 PM, notbob wrote:
> >> >>> On 2017-08-11, jmcquown > wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I gave one of the early chia-pet kits to a friend once when a group of
> >> >>>> us decided to have a sillest cheap holiday gift exchange.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I notice the "Clapper" (clap on!-Clap off!) is also from the same
> >> >>> company. They start doing a buncha TV ads around Christmas time.
> >> >>> I've actually considered buying a "Clapper", being a seriously lazy
> >> >>> geezer, 'n all.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> nb
> >> >>>
> >> >> I think those clapper things actually work, nb! However, I'm not yet
> >> >> sufficiently lazy I can't turn a lamp on and off.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jill
> >> >
> >> > Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
> >> > They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
> >> > hallways and basements...
> >>
> >> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
> >> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
> >> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find LED
> >> lighting to be rather harsh.
> >
> >I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still have
> >quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> Where I live there are no street lights, on a cloudy night it can be
> pitch black indoors, too dark to see past your nose. The older LEDs
> emitted a harsh light but not anymore, now they are housed with a
> filtering lens that blocks the harsh light spectrum.

The reason they appear harsh to me is that there's no damned spectrum.
They emit at a single wavelength.

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-08-12 1:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > I don't know what you're doing that requires so much lighting in
> > the dark. I have one night light in the hallway at the other end
> > of the house because sometimes my cat sleeps on the couch in the
> > den. She probably doesn't need it but I turn it on when I go to
> > the bedroom. Me, I don't get up and wander around the house at
> > night. I use Halogen lightbulbs, lower watt and quite pleasant.
> > Not harsh bright white light. That's what Sheldon was talking
> > about.
>
> I have pretty good night vision, so if I have to get up in the middle
> of the night I don't bother to turn on the lights. My only problem is
> that we have a dog who considers his role in life is to be a tripping
> hazard for burglars. I never know exactly which of his favourite
> blocking locations to find him in. Sometimes he is in his bed in the
> corner of our bedroom. Sometimes he is lying halfway across the
> bedroom door. Sometimes he is lying in front of the bathroom door.
> Sometimes he uses his teddy bear, which is almost as big as he is, to
> block the other side of the hall.

LOL! one of my dogs is blind and parks herself just about anyplace any
time of the day or night. I get it with simple night lights where
needed.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> Chia pets eh? Heh I thought Ed was kidding!!

Not kidding. They are clay pieces in the shape of a head or an animal. I
think the seeds might come mixed in some medium that forms a paste when
water is added. You spread this over the piece and watch it grow!

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:46:15 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > On 8/12/2017 7:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:00:02 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown
> wrote: >>> On 8/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:43:27 -0400, jmcquown
> > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>>> On 8/11/2017 6:28 PM, notbob wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2017-08-11, jmcquown > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> >>>>>>> I gave one of the early chia-pet kits to a friend once when a
> group of >>>>>>> us decided to have a sillest cheap holiday gift
> exchange.
> > > > > > >
> >>>>>> I notice the "Clapper" (clap on!-Clap off!) is also from the
> same >>>>>> company. They start doing a buncha TV ads around
> Christmas time. >>>>>> I've actually considered buying a "Clapper",
> being a seriously lazy >>>>>> geezer, 'n all.
> > > > > > >
> >>>>>> nb
> > > > > > >
> >>>>> I think those clapper things actually work, nb! However, I'm
> not yet >>>>> sufficiently lazy I can't turn a lamp on and off.
> > > > > >
> >>>>> Jill
> > > > >
> >>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
> >>>>
> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...s/dp/B00A3F1MZ
> E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495895&sr=8-1&keywords=maxxima+mln50
> >>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in
> bathrooms, >>>> hallways and basements...
> > > >
> >>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
> >>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander
> around >>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I
> also find LED >>> lighting to be rather harsh.
> >>
> >> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still
> have >> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more
> pleasing. >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >
> > Incans are too yellow for me. The LEDs we have are the whiter
> > "daylight" color temperature.
>
> Even my outdoor LED fixtures emit much nicer light than the old
> incandescents, and use 14 watts compared to 100 watt bulbs that didn't
> last long and needed to climb a ladder to replace bulbs, that always
> burned out during the coldest part of winter.
>
> > In the bathrooms, the over the mirror fixtures have three 60W
> > equivalent LED bulbs and it is nice and bright in there.
>
> I replaced a fixture over the bathroom mirror that used four 60 watt
> incandescents with a bar type LED that gives better/more light and
> uses just 9 watts. I used to hate changing bulbs on that old fixture,
> had to gingerly remove the large glass shade while on a ladder and
> leaning way over the vanity... was even more difficult repacing that
> glass shade. LEDs can last 15-20 years, even longer if you remember
> to shut them off when not in use. Now whenever an incondescent burns
> out I replace it with an LED... I recently replaced the bulbs on my
> two garage door openers, each takes two bulbs, those are a pain to
> replace as well, gotta drive the cars out and set up a ladder, then
> reverse he process. And how many times I thought to replace those
> bulbs before pulling the car in, but never remembered until
> afterwards. I don't really care if people don't want to save money
> but I liked reducing my electric bill by half and still having light.
> Electric garage door openers have a white opaque lens over each bulb
> so light is the same regardless which kind of bulb... besides I don't
> need mood lighting in my garage.

I just put a set of 2 on my list. Looks like a good option for my back
storage area. I'm sure the second one will find a good home too.

--

On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 14:31:06 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:46:15 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> > On 8/12/2017 7:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:00:02 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown
>> wrote: >>> On 8/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote:
>> >>>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:43:27 -0400, jmcquown
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> >>>>> On 8/11/2017 6:28 PM, notbob wrote:
>> >>>>>> On 2017-08-11, jmcquown > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> >>>>>>> I gave one of the early chia-pet kits to a friend once when a
>> group of >>>>>>> us decided to have a sillest cheap holiday gift
>> exchange.
>> > > > > > >
>> >>>>>> I notice the "Clapper" (clap on!-Clap off!) is also from the
>> same >>>>>> company. They start doing a buncha TV ads around
>> Christmas time. >>>>>> I've actually considered buying a "Clapper",
>> being a seriously lazy >>>>>> geezer, 'n all.
>> > > > > > >
>> >>>>>> nb
>> > > > > > >
>> >>>>> I think those clapper things actually work, nb! However, I'm
>> not yet >>>>> sufficiently lazy I can't turn a lamp on and off.
>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> Jill
>> > > > >
>> >>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>> >>>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...s/dp/B00A3F1MZ
>> E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495895&sr=8-1&keywords=maxxima+mln50
>> >>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in
>> bathrooms, >>>> hallways and basements...
>> > > >
>> >>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>> >>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander
>> around >>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I
>> also find LED >>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>> >>
>> >> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still
>> have >> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more
>> pleasing. >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >>
>> >
>> > Incans are too yellow for me. The LEDs we have are the whiter
>> > "daylight" color temperature.
>>
>> Even my outdoor LED fixtures emit much nicer light than the old
>> incandescents, and use 14 watts compared to 100 watt bulbs that didn't
>> last long and needed to climb a ladder to replace bulbs, that always
>> burned out during the coldest part of winter.
>>
>> > In the bathrooms, the over the mirror fixtures have three 60W
>> > equivalent LED bulbs and it is nice and bright in there.
>>
>> I replaced a fixture over the bathroom mirror that used four 60 watt
>> incandescents with a bar type LED that gives better/more light and
>> uses just 9 watts. I used to hate changing bulbs on that old fixture,
>> had to gingerly remove the large glass shade while on a ladder and
>> leaning way over the vanity... was even more difficult repacing that
>> glass shade. LEDs can last 15-20 years, even longer if you remember
>> to shut them off when not in use. Now whenever an incondescent burns
>> out I replace it with an LED... I recently replaced the bulbs on my
>> two garage door openers, each takes two bulbs, those are a pain to
>> replace as well, gotta drive the cars out and set up a ladder, then
>> reverse he process. And how many times I thought to replace those
>> bulbs before pulling the car in, but never remembered until
>> afterwards. I don't really care if people don't want to save money
>> but I liked reducing my electric bill by half and still having light.
>> Electric garage door openers have a white opaque lens over each bulb
>> so light is the same regardless which kind of bulb... besides I don't
>> need mood lighting in my garage.
>
>I just put a set of 2 on my list. Looks like a good option for my back
>storage area. I'm sure the second one will find a good home too.

They cost substantially less if you buy them in a box of 6 or 8, I get
them at Lowe's, they're often on sale. Even though LEDs cost more
than incondescents they pay for themselves in two months by using so
little electricity, so they actually cost a lot less, in fact in
reality they cost nothing because they will last 15-20 years. LEDs
offer exceptional savings when used for outdoor lighting, a 14 watt
LED flood offers about 50% more light than a 100 watt incandescent. My
only recommendation is to have a licensed electrician install LED
fixtures as polarity is important.

On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:12:51 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 04:58:33 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> > I think Cheri needs to explain the concept of "Each to their own" to
>>>> > Sqwertz.
>>>>
>>>> That is not something that I've ever said. I said/say..."To each their
>>>> own."
>>>> It makes me laugh everytime I see you or Gary put it that way though, so
>>>> carry on.
>>>
>>>Why do you laugh? Both have the same meaning.
>>
>> I don't see a big difference either, but I believe we should quote our
>> great thinkers correctly.
>
>
>First you would have to be capable of understanding the concept, which you
>obviously are not

I don't? But I keep trying to apply it.

>, but phrasing it your way..."let live and live."

And De gustibus non disputandum.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 8/12/2017 10:08 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> Since we have very dark walls, if it were not for nightlights, one
>> would truly stumble around in the dark. However, we use 130 volt,
>> 4.5 watt incandescent buls in those.
>>
> I don't know what you're doing that requires so much lighting in the dark.
> I have one night light in the hallway at the other end of the house
> because sometimes my cat sleeps on the couch in the den. She probably
> doesn't need it but I turn it on when I go to the bedroom. Me, I don't
> get up and wander around the house at night. I use Halogen lightbulbs,
> lower watt and quite pleasant. Not harsh bright white light. That's what
> Sheldon was talking about.
>
> Jill

Only place I don't keep a light on is the 1/3 of the house where the living
room is. Mainly because I rarely go to those parts of the house. Otherwise
it's an nightlight or a very dimmed light of some kind. I don't like total
darkness.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
.45...
> On Sat 12 Aug 2017 10:42:46a, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 8/12/2017 12:59 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 04:34:40 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:00:02 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:43:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/11/2017 6:28 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-08-11, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I gave one of the early chia-pet kits to a friend once when
>>>>>>>>> a group of us decided to have a sillest cheap holiday gift
>>>>>>>>> exchange.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I notice the "Clapper" (clap on!-Clap off!) is also from the
>>>>>>>> same company. They start doing a buncha TV ads around
>>>>>>>> Christmas time. I've actually considered buying a "Clapper",
>>>>>>>> being a seriously lazy geezer, 'n all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think those clapper things actually work, nb! However, I'm
>>>>>>> not yet sufficiently lazy I can't turn a lamp on and off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...r-Lumens/dp/B0
>>>>>> 0A3F1MZE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495895&sr=8-1&keywords=maxx
>>>>>> ima+mln50 They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great
>>>>>> in bathrooms, hallways and basements...
>>>>>
>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is,
>>>>> not everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't
>>>>> wander around the house at night so I don't need anything like
>>>>> that. I also find LED lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>>
>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I
>>>> still have quite a few incandescents because the light is much
>>>> more pleasing.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Where I live there are no street lights, on a cloudy night it can
>>> be pitch black indoors, too dark to see past your nose.
>>
>> There are no street lights here, either. I don't drive in the
>> dark. I don't walk around the house in the dark. I go to bed, I
>> go to sleep. I turn out the beside lamp. It's a halogen bulb,
>> BTW.
>>
>>> The older LEDs
>>> emitted a harsh light but not anymore, now they are housed with a
>>> filtering lens that blocks the harsh light spectrum. The
>>> particular night lights I'm using emit a warm glow. I use them
>>> mainly so I don't step on cats sleeping in the hallways, and to
>>> avoid stepping on gushy wet hairballs. Cats also leave toys in
>>> unexpected places,
>>
>> Mine doesn't. She seems to know the living room is the place for
>> toys.
>>
>>> favorite game they play is to fight with bathroom floor mats and
>>> leave them in a heap to be tripped on. Those who fall and can't
>>> get up are the ninnies who are too cheap to use night lights.
>>>
>> YOU'RE likely to step on cats sleeping in hallways. I'm not. No
>> gooshy hairballs, either. I know where my cat is when I go to
>> bed. She's either curled up next to me or asleep on the couch in
>> the den. She does not make play toys out of bath mats.
>>
>> Sorry, your experience does not match mine. Then again, I've
>> never had multiple cats running around the house.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> To add to the light issue confusion, three of our four cats are
> predominately black. No natural light enters our hallway, so we
> always turn on he light when we walk down the hall even in the
> daytime to make sure we're not tripping over a cat. :-)
> Unfortunately there is no place to plug in a nightlite in the hall.

Jszzy is black. I have stepped on her or even accidently put my hand on her
because she tends to blend right in with some things.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 14:31:06 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...s/dp/B00A3F1MZ
> >> E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495895&sr=8-1&keywords=maxxima+mln50

> > I just put a set of 2 on my list. Looks like a good option for my
> > back storage area. I'm sure the second one will find a good home
> > too.
>
> They cost substantially less if you buy them in a box of 6 or 8, I get
> them at Lowe's, they're often on sale. Even though LEDs cost more
> than incondescents they pay for themselves in two months by using so
> little electricity, so they actually cost a lot less, in fact in
> reality they cost nothing because they will last 15-20 years. LEDs
> offer exceptional savings when used for outdoor lighting, a 14 watt
> LED flood offers about 50% more light than a 100 watt incandescent. My
> only recommendation is to have a licensed electrician install LED
> fixtures as polarity is important.

I need only 1 and will find a use for the second one.


--

On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:44:13 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 14:31:06 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...s/dp/B00A3F1MZ
>> >> E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495895&sr=8-1&keywords=maxxima+mln50
>
>> > I just put a set of 2 on my list. Looks like a good option for my
>> > back storage area. I'm sure the second one will find a good home
>> > too.
>>
>> They cost substantially less if you buy them in a box of 6 or 8, I get
>> them at Lowe's, they're often on sale. Even though LEDs cost more
>> than incondescents they pay for themselves in two months by using so
>> little electricity, so they actually cost a lot less, in fact in
>> reality they cost nothing because they will last 15-20 years. LEDs
>> offer exceptional savings when used for outdoor lighting, a 14 watt
>> LED flood offers about 50% more light than a 100 watt incandescent. My
>> only recommendation is to have a licensed electrician install LED
>> fixtures as polarity is important.
>
>I need only 1 and will find a use for the second one.

You must live in a tiny hovel.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:44:13 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 14:31:06 -0500, "cshenk" >
> wrote: >>
> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...s/dp/B00A3F1MZ
> >> >>
> E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495895&sr=8-1&keywords=maxxima+mln50
> >
> >> > I just put a set of 2 on my list. Looks like a good option for
> my >> > back storage area. I'm sure the second one will find a good
> home >> > too.
> >>
> >> They cost substantially less if you buy them in a box of 6 or 8, I
> get >> them at Lowe's, they're often on sale. Even though LEDs cost
> more >> than incondescents they pay for themselves in two months by
> using so >> little electricity, so they actually cost a lot less, in
> fact in >> reality they cost nothing because they will last 15-20
> years. LEDs >> offer exceptional savings when used for outdoor
> lighting, a 14 watt >> LED flood offers about 50% more light than a
> 100 watt incandescent. My >> only recommendation is to have a
> licensed electrician install LED >> fixtures as polarity is important.
> >
> > I need only 1 and will find a use for the second one.
>
> You must live in a tiny hovel.

Well, maybe by your standards I do but 3bedrooms, 1.5 baths (I do wish
I had 2 full ones), living room, 12ftx13ft sunroom, 13ftx44ft screened
porch, Laundry room and separate family room with storage room at the
back is bigger than many here may have. I have solutions for all but
the storage room at the back.

--

On 8/12/2017 7:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:00:02 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 8/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>> hallways and basements...
>>
>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find LED
>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>
> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still have
> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt halogen
bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.

Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
bedtime, she's likely right beside me.

Jill

On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 14:46:56 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:


>I have pretty good night vision, so if I have to get up in the middle of
>the night I don't bother to turn on the lights. My only problem is that
>we have a dog who considers his role in life is to be a tripping hazard
>for burglars. I never know exactly which of his favourite blocking
>locations to find him in. Sometimes he is in his bed in the corner of
>our bedroom. Sometimes he is lying halfway across the bedroom door.
>Sometimes he is lying in front of the bathroom door. Sometimes he uses
>his teddy bear, which is almost as big as he is, to block the other side
>of the hall.

Jeezus, I miss my dogs. They did exactly those things.

Doris

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 10:53:24 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 8/12/2017 7:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 10:00:02 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> >> On 8/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
> >>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
> >>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
> >>> hallways and basements...
> >>
> >> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
> >> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
> >> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find LED
> >> lighting to be rather harsh.
> >
> > I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still have
> > quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt halogen
> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>
> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.

We've got a night light in the bathroom, mostly for my husband's benefit.
I usually sleep through the night.

Cindy Hamilton

cshenk wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > A lamb burger sounds very nice to me. :-D
>
> Krogers right? Thats seems to be closer to you and where you shop?


Good morning, Carol.

Farm Fresh 95% of the time. 5% at Food Lion, only when they have
some good sales. Main reason for my choice is that FF is closest
to me (0.8 miles) and it opens earlier than the others. I also
know the store setup well and all of the morning employees.

That's the only shopping trips that I enjoy. All others are a
pain, especially having to wait longer until they open.

On 8/13/2017 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 10:53:24 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>
>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt halogen
>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>>
>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>
> We've got a night light in the bathroom, mostly for my husband's benefit.
> I usually sleep through the night.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I usually sleep through the night, too. I do have one regular night
light in the bathroom area by the vanity/sink which is open to the
bedroom. That's for my cat Buffy's benefit. Her litterbox is in the
separate area where the tub and toilet are. Sometimes she needs to use
it during the night. I like to think it's helpful, even though I'm
pretty sure Buffy could find her way without it.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>penmart wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>
>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find LED
>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>
>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still have
>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt halogen
>bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>
>Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
>sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
>bedtime, she's likely right beside me.

Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of Class
& Civility and with no need for night lights would have simply not
wasted their time by reading past those first four words. I know
exactly how Trump feels about the uncouth who will make up any excuse
to put him down. Jill is really no different from Julie when she
poopoos every food suggested by exclaiming "I DON'T EAT THAT - WAH,
WAH, WAH ... doesn't get more spoiled brat infantile.
And then there are those whose thought process spectrum is too
narrow... many millions use night lights, I doubt any use them to set
a mood.
Not everything suggested is intended as dogma.

On 8/13/2017 11:09 AM, wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>> penmart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>>
>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find LED
>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>
>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still have
>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt halogen
>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>>
>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>
> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"...

Yes, you did say that. But you seem to mention these night lights quite
often. One might think you're getting some sort of kickback from
Amazon. LOL

> Jill is really no different from Julie when she
> poopoos every food suggested by exclaiming "I DON'T EAT THAT - WAH,
> WAH, WAH ... doesn't get more spoiled brat infantile.

Really? If I'm not interested in certain foods I tend to ignore the
posts. You won't find me posting about Sub sandwiches, Philly cheese
steaks or pickles.

> And then there are those whose thought process spectrum is too
> narrow... many millions use night lights, I doubt any use them to set
> a mood.
> Not everything suggested is intended as dogma.
>
Come on, Sheldon. You post things as if they're dogma. You're as bad
as anyone else. You hate bacon. You despise lamb. Don't like
shellfish. Or fish with any sort of cheese. How many times have you
said something is TIAD? Pot, kettle, black.

I do love the pics of your land and your cats.

Jill

wrote in
:

> Not everything suggested is intended as dogma.
>
Or smegma. LOL!!!

> wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>penmart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>>
>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find LED
>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>
>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still have
>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>>night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt halogen
>>bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>>
>>Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
>>sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
>>bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>
> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
> human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of Class

As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through the
night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.

Cheri

On 8/13/2017 11:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>> penmart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>>>
>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
>>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find
>>>>> LED
>>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>>
>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still have
>>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt halogen
>>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>>>
>>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
>>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
>>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>>
>> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
>> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
>> human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of Class
>
> As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
> the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
>
> Cheri

I've dealt with insomnia since I was in my late 20's. At one time I was
taking a prescription med for that but I stopped. I always felt groggy
and the warnings were worse than not sleeping.

I take a MidNite tablet occasionally. Melatonin and some herbs, melts
right on the tongue. I can usually tell ahead of time when I might have
a restless, sleepless night.

Mostly I don't need night lights because I don't get up during the
night. Sure, I wake up sometimes. I don't get out of bed. That would
be one sure way for me to stay awake.

I have one low light night light in bathroom area over the sink. Pretty
much for my cat. She probably doesn't need it. I sure don't.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 8/13/2017 11:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>>> penmart wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
>>>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find
>>>>>> LED
>>>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still
>>>>> have
>>>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>>>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt
>>>> halogen
>>>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>>>>
>>>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
>>>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
>>>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>>>
>>> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
>>> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
>>> human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of Class
>>
>> As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
>> the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I've dealt with insomnia since I was in my late 20's. At one time I was
> taking a prescription med for that but I stopped. I always felt groggy
> and the warnings were worse than not sleeping.
>
> I take a MidNite tablet occasionally. Melatonin and some herbs, melts
> right on the tongue. I can usually tell ahead of time when I might have a
> restless, sleepless night.
>
> Mostly I don't need night lights because I don't get up during the night.
> Sure, I wake up sometimes. I don't get out of bed. That would be one
> sure way for me to stay awake.
>
> I have one low light night light in bathroom area over the sink. Pretty
> much for my cat. She probably doesn't need it. I sure don't.
>
> Jill


Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is at
night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want to get out
of bed.

Cheri

Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > > A lamb burger sounds very nice to me. :-D
> >
> > Krogers right? Thats seems to be closer to you and where you shop?
>
>
> Good morning, Carol.
>
> Farm Fresh 95% of the time. 5% at Food Lion, only when they have
> some good sales. Main reason for my choice is that FF is closest
> to me (0.8 miles) and it opens earlier than the others. I also
> know the store setup well and all of the morning employees.
>
> That's the only shopping trips that I enjoy. All others are a
> pain, especially having to wait longer until they open.

Morning Gary (actually afternoon here). Ah! Ok. FarmFresh is a very
decent store, just not as close for me. I never noticed the opening
hours but the one I use is 24/7 so not that relevant. Back when I was
still active duty, I'd shop at 2am because my shifts had me half night
owl. My morning might be 10pm or 2am (sounds wierd but true).

Knowing the store well beats out all other concerns IMHO. Learning
their sales rotation is cheaper than traveling to multiple locations
(burning gas) as frankly, they are all pretty close on deals over time.

--

Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> > wrote in message
> ...
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > Jill McQuown wrote:
> > > > > penmart wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
> > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...nsor-Lumens/dp
> > > > > > /B00A3F1MZE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495895&sr=8-1&keyword
> > > > > > s=maxxima+mln50 They emit too much light for a bedroom but
> > > > > > are great in bathrooms, hallways and basements...
> > > > >
> > > > > You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is,
> > > > > not everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't
> > > > > wander around the house at night so I don't need anything
> > > > > like that. I also find LED lighting to be rather harsh.
> > > >
> > > > I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I
> > > > still have quite a few incandescents because the light is much
> > > > more pleasing.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the
> > > house at night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use
> > > low watt halogen bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
> > >
> > > Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned
> > > stepping on sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know
> > > where she is. At bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
> >
> > Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed
> > immediately that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"...
> > those decent human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a
> > modicom of Class
>
> As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
> the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
>
> Cheri

Correct Cheri, as one ages, simple additions to the lighting can make a
big difference.

My house has a big street lamp right on the front corner. Due to that,
I get a modicum of light across the entire front through the windows at
night so don't need to add lighting there.

I have some pretty good solar lights along the fence and back yard
area.

Carol


--

On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 7:24:36 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
> > On 8/13/2017 11:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >> > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>> Jill McQuown wrote:
> >>>>>> penmart wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
> >>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
> >>>>>>> hallways and basements...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
> >>>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
> >>>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find
> >>>>>> LED
> >>>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>>
> >>>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
> >>>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt
> >>>> halogen
> >>>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
> >>>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
> >>>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
> >>> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
> >>> human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of Class
> >>
> >> As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
> >> the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > I've dealt with insomnia since I was in my late 20's. At one time I was
> > taking a prescription med for that but I stopped. I always felt groggy
> > and the warnings were worse than not sleeping.
> >
> > I take a MidNite tablet occasionally. Melatonin and some herbs, melts
> > right on the tongue. I can usually tell ahead of time when I might have a
> > restless, sleepless night.
> >
> > Mostly I don't need night lights because I don't get up during the night.
> > Sure, I wake up sometimes. I don't get out of bed. That would be one
> > sure way for me to stay awake.
> >
> > I have one low light night light in bathroom area over the sink. Pretty
> > much for my cat. She probably doesn't need it. I sure don't.
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is at
> night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want to get out
> of bed.
>
> Cheri

Drinking a diet soda will cause me to get up to go to the bathroom a couple of times a night. These days I don't drink diet sodas.

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:57:58 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/13/2017 11:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>>> penmart wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
>>>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find
>>>>>> LED
>>>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still have
>>>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>>>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt halogen
>>>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>>>>
>>>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
>>>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
>>>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>>>
>>> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
>>> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
>>> human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of Class
>>
>> As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
>> the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>I've dealt with insomnia since I was in my late 20's. At one time I was
>taking a prescription med for that but I stopped. I always felt groggy
>and the warnings were worse than not sleeping.
>
>I take a MidNite tablet occasionally. Melatonin and some herbs, melts
>right on the tongue. I can usually tell ahead of time when I might have
>a restless, sleepless night.
>
>Mostly I don't need night lights because I don't get up during the
>night. Sure, I wake up sometimes. I don't get out of bed. That would
>be one sure way for me to stay awake.
>
>I have one low light night light in bathroom area over the sink. Pretty
>much for my cat. She probably doesn't need it. I sure don't.
>
>Jill

I can assure you that cats don't need night lights... they are able to
see ten times better than humans on a dark cloud covered night... cats
also find their way quite well by scent. All of a cat's senses are
far more acute than that of any dog, their sense of smell and hearing
especially... felines are the ultimate hunters, dogs can't really
hunt, canines find food by the pack method, they noisily corral the
weak and ill.

If cats could be trained for tracking, (can't) they'd be far better
than any bloodhound. Cats hunt primarily by sound and scent. they can
easily hear/smell moles/voles underground. I watch my ferals
returning from the barn in the morning for breakfast and suddenly they
begin furiously digging, and there they are with a rodent so come for
breakfast later.

On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 8:33:04 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > Jill McQuown wrote:
> > > > > > penmart wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
> > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...nsor-Lumens/dp
> > > > > > > /B00A3F1MZE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495895&sr=8-1&keyword
> > > > > > > s=maxxima+mln50 They emit too much light for a bedroom but
> > > > > > > are great in bathrooms, hallways and basements...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is,
> > > > > > not everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't
> > > > > > wander around the house at night so I don't need anything
> > > > > > like that. I also find LED lighting to be rather harsh.
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I
> > > > > still have quite a few incandescents because the light is much
> > > > > more pleasing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > > I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the
> > > > house at night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use
> > > > low watt halogen bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
> > > >
> > > > Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned
> > > > stepping on sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know
> > > > where she is. At bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
> > >
> > > Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed
> > > immediately that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"...
> > > those decent human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a
> > > modicom of Class
> >
> > As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
> > the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> Correct Cheri, as one ages, simple additions to the lighting can make a
> big difference.
>
> My house has a big street lamp right on the front corner. Due to that,
> I get a modicum of light across the entire front through the windows at
> night so don't need to add lighting there.
>
> I have some pretty good solar lights along the fence and back yard
> area.
>
> Carol
>
>
> --

My brother-in-law changed the flooring from the dark linoleum that was there since the early 60's. The change was pretty dramatic. It was as if the floor was lit up. Now I know.

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:24:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 8/13/2017 11:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>>>> penmart wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>>>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>>>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander around
>>>>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find
>>>>>>> LED
>>>>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>>>>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt
>>>>> halogen
>>>>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
>>>>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
>>>>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
>>>> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
>>>> human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of Class
>>>
>>> As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
>>> the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> I've dealt with insomnia since I was in my late 20's. At one time I was
>> taking a prescription med for that but I stopped. I always felt groggy
>> and the warnings were worse than not sleeping.
>>
>> I take a MidNite tablet occasionally. Melatonin and some herbs, melts
>> right on the tongue. I can usually tell ahead of time when I might have a
>> restless, sleepless night.
>>
>> Mostly I don't need night lights because I don't get up during the night.
>> Sure, I wake up sometimes. I don't get out of bed. That would be one
>> sure way for me to stay awake.
>>
>> I have one low light night light in bathroom area over the sink. Pretty
>> much for my cat. She probably doesn't need it. I sure don't.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
>Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is at
>night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want to get out
>of bed.
>
>Cheri

Jill is likely using Depends now but will never admit it... she's a
couch potato, reading and sucking up jugs of wine, no way she has no
bladder problems.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
news
> Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is at
> night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want to get
> out of bed.

That was me, last night. We finally got a bit of rain. Not much. Not enough,
but it did cool down. So my swelling began to go down. At the same time, I
was insanely thirsty. So each time I got up, I drank water. You can see
where I'm going with this...

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 7:24:36 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On 8/13/2017 11:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> >> > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>>>> Jill McQuown wrote:
>> >>>>>> penmart wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>> >>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in
>> >>>>>>> bathrooms,
>> >>>>>>> hallways and basements...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>> >>>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander
>> >>>>>> around
>> >>>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also
>> >>>>>> find
>> >>>>>> LED
>> >>>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still
>> >>>>> have
>> >>>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house
>> >>>> at
>> >>>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt
>> >>>> halogen
>> >>>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is.
>> >>>> At
>> >>>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed
>> >>> immediately
>> >>> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
>> >>> human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of
>> >>> Class
>> >>
>> >> As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
>> >> the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
>> >>
>> >> Cheri
>> >
>> > I've dealt with insomnia since I was in my late 20's. At one time I
>> > was
>> > taking a prescription med for that but I stopped. I always felt groggy
>> > and the warnings were worse than not sleeping.
>> >
>> > I take a MidNite tablet occasionally. Melatonin and some herbs, melts
>> > right on the tongue. I can usually tell ahead of time when I might
>> > have a
>> > restless, sleepless night.
>> >
>> > Mostly I don't need night lights because I don't get up during the
>> > night.
>> > Sure, I wake up sometimes. I don't get out of bed. That would be one
>> > sure way for me to stay awake.
>> >
>> > I have one low light night light in bathroom area over the sink.
>> > Pretty
>> > much for my cat. She probably doesn't need it. I sure don't.
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>>
>> Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is at
>> night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want to get
>> out
>> of bed.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Drinking a diet soda will cause me to get up to go to the bathroom a
> couple of times a night. These days I don't drink diet sodas.

That happened to my dad. He had to quit drinking them.

On 8/13/2017 4:19 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> news >
>> Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is
>> at night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want
>> to get out of bed.
>
> That was me, last night. We finally got a bit of rain. Not much. Not
> enough, but it did cool down. So my swelling began to go down. At the
> same time, I was insanely thirsty. So each time I got up, I drank water.
> You can see where I'm going with this...

You may find it better to have just a sip of water and suck on some
crushed ice a while. My wife has to watch her water intake at times and
that helps.

On 8/13/2017 1:24 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 8/13/2017 11:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>>>> penmart wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>>>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>>>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander
>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find
>>>>>>> LED
>>>>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>>>>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt
>>>>> halogen
>>>>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping on
>>>>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is. At
>>>>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
>>>> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
>>>> human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of Class
>>>
>>> As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
>>> the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> I've dealt with insomnia since I was in my late 20's. At one time I
>> was taking a prescription med for that but I stopped. I always felt
>> groggy and the warnings were worse than not sleeping.
>>
>> I take a MidNite tablet occasionally. Melatonin and some herbs, melts
>> right on the tongue. I can usually tell ahead of time when I might
>> have a restless, sleepless night.
>>
>> Mostly I don't need night lights because I don't get up during the
>> night. Sure, I wake up sometimes. I don't get out of bed. That would
>> be one sure way for me to stay awake.
>>
>> I have one low light night light in bathroom area over the sink.
>> Pretty much for my cat. She probably doesn't need it. I sure don't.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is at
> night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want to get
> out of bed.
>
> Cheri

By then I'll be near 80 and won't care. Right now I don't need night
lights and even if I did I wouldn't want a glaring white LED light.

Jill

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
news
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> news >
>> Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is at
>> night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want to get
>> out of bed.
>
> That was me, last night. We finally got a bit of rain. Not much. Not
> enough, but it did cool down. So my swelling began to go down. At the same
> time, I was insanely thirsty. So each time I got up, I drank water. You
> can see where I'm going with this...


Oh yeah.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 8/13/2017 1:24 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 8/13/2017 11:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>>>>> penmart wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone needs night lights this is the best:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5...=maxxima+mln50
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They emit too much light for a bedroom but are great in bathrooms,
>>>>>>>>> hallways and basements...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You really do tout these night lights, don't you? Thing is, not
>>>>>>>> everyone wants (or has need for) night lights. I don't wander
>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>> the house at night so I don't need anything like that. I also find
>>>>>>>> LED
>>>>>>>> lighting to be rather harsh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree. For me, it's because the spectrum is so narrow. I still
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> quite a few incandescents because the light is much more pleasing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I simply don't need night lights. I don't wander around the house at
>>>>>> night. If I need to get up I'll turn on a lamp. I use low watt
>>>>>> halogen
>>>>>> bulbs in the lamps. They last a long time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheldon seems to need night lights all over. He mentioned stepping
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> sleeping cats. I only have one cat. I usually know where she is.
>>>>>> At
>>>>>> bedtime, she's likely right beside me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone possessing reading comprehension would have noticed immediately
>>>>> that my post began with "Anyone needs night lights"... those decent
>>>>> human beings without an ulterior motive who possess a modicom of Class
>>>>
>>>> As one ages, night lights become more necessary, and sleeping through
>>>> the night is not a sure thing, but Jill isn't there yet.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> I've dealt with insomnia since I was in my late 20's. At one time I
>>> was taking a prescription med for that but I stopped. I always felt
>>> groggy and the warnings were worse than not sleeping.
>>>
>>> I take a MidNite tablet occasionally. Melatonin and some herbs, melts
>>> right on the tongue. I can usually tell ahead of time when I might
>>> have a restless, sleepless night.
>>>
>>> Mostly I don't need night lights because I don't get up during the
>>> night. Sure, I wake up sometimes. I don't get out of bed. That would
>>> be one sure way for me to stay awake.
>>>
>>> I have one low light night light in bathroom area over the sink.
>>> Pretty much for my cat. She probably doesn't need it. I sure don't.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is at
>> night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want to get
>> out of bed.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> By then I'll be near 80 and won't care. Right now I don't need night
> lights and even if I did I wouldn't want a glaring white LED light.
>
> Jill


You're going to be surprised how quick that happens, and you will care.

Cheri

On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 10:19:42 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> news >
> > Give yourself 20 or so years and see how good your bladder control is at
> > night, of course there are Depends and the like if you don't want to get
> > out of bed.
>
> That was me, last night. We finally got a bit of rain. Not much. Not enough,
> but it did cool down. So my swelling began to go down. At the same time, I
> was insanely thirsty. So each time I got up, I drank water. You can see
> where I'm going with this...

Intense thirst could be an indication of high blood sugar. You might mention that to your doctor the next time you see him.